Shaun Newman Podcast - #895 - Peter Mac Isaac

Episode Date: August 14, 2025

Peter R. Mac Isaac is a Canadian author, retired game warden, forest firefighter, and TV host/producer of a hunting and fishing series. Based in Nova Scotia, he wrote the Amazon bestseller The Redneck Conservative: How Conservatives Are Made, which outlines his conservative philosophy and critiques political corruption. A survivalist, firearms expert, and libertarian, he has over a decade of experience in political party management. He serves as President of the Independent Nova Scotia Initiative, promoting independent political candidates, and is a Canadian Ambassador for Freedom Train International.To watch the Full Cornerstone Forum: https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcastGet your voice heard: Text Shaun 587-217-8500Silver Gold Bull Links:Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/Email: [e-mail] Grahame: [phone]Bow Valley Credit UnionBitcoin: www.bowvalleycu.com/en/personal/investing-wealth/bitcoin-gatewayEmail: [e-mail] Use the code “SNP” on all ordersProphet River Links:Website: store.prophetriver.com/Email: [e-mail] Money SummitWebsite: ExpatMoneySummit.com

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He was a professional forest fighter for 29 years and a number one Amazon bestselling author of the Redneck Conservative. I'm talking about Peter McIsaac. So buckle up. Here we go. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. Today I'm joined by Peter McIsaac. Sir, thank you for hopping on.

My pleasure, buddy. We've got a lot to talk about that's going down here with the oppression in Nova Scotia. Yeah, and for people wondering, you know, yeah, Peter, I was just going to look it up. I should have done it right when I got in the studio, but I'm going to do it real quick. Anyways, you were on the podcast a while back. I'm trying to think of what day that was or what episode, but I'll tell you what, I'll look it up. 803. So if anyone wants to hear more about Peter's story, go back to episode 803. We get into a lot of who Peter is and jump off into some interesting topics.

Now, we're talking Nova Scotia fires today. Late on me, you're the guy out there. I joked about having fun. I didn't mean that you. Anyways, we both chuckled, but a weird definition. I remember hearing about climate lockdowns back in the middle of COVID. And I remember thinking, well, yeah, yeah, I could see how that happened. I just don't, then it happens and you're kind of like, this is, this is almost a strange,

surreal feeling to watch part of Canada arguing about this. You're the guy in that province. Walk us through this. Well, a little bit of background, just to give myself some credibility. Sure. Yes. I'm a professional forest firefighter for Department of Natural Resources for 29 years. I'm retired now.

So I was slash force firefighter in the summer in the fire seasons and a game ordinance. time. And so I've worked inside Nova Scotia system and I understand it and I'm basically an expert at it. I've been an incident commander on over 100 fires. I fought fires in Nova Scotia and out in Alberta as well. So when the fire ban was first put in place prior to the lockdown, Tim Houston, our premier initiated a fire ban on the 30th of July. And so I just naturally went online and looked at the fire weather indices for the day. And for your listeners, the fire weather index is the set of data that all of the states in the U.S. and every province in Canada relies on every day to tell them what they can expect in the way of fire weather and what will happen if a fire starts. And based on that data in Nova Scotia, we have 31 regions that report at noon every day and that data gets reported at 2 p.m. And it's available to the general public online.

So I went in and looked at the number, Sean. And 40% of the province was in low to moderate. And I went, okay, so why is the Premier completely ignoring this data and putting in a blanket fire ban when 40% of the province is not affected because they've had plenty of rain? And so right off the bat, we started, I got a hold of our legal people. And they determined that that was straight up a charter challenge because it's disproportionate. and it fails the Oaks test. And so while we were working on that data, we ended up with some more dry weather.

And then one day, just out of the blue, the Premier decides the entire province is no longer to walk in the woods. They put in a full fireband. And the day he put that in, I believe there was set or the day after, there was still a good portion of the province that was still not in extreme weather conditions. So using proportion,

The Primer is obligated to use the system that's in place and not ignore the data. But he still decided to go ahead and ban people from doing everything, from walking, hiking, picnic, and picking berries, just basically anything that a person would normally do, you know, on a daily basis. So down here in Nova Scotia, right now, the very nicest weather of the year from August, from right now until mid-off. October. And for the first time in North American history of any state or in any province, our premier has initiated a 10-week travel ban. And it's a charter violating charter ban, but he knows, he's not stupid. He knows that we're not going to be able to get this in, even though Jeff Evely went and got himself a ticket so that he'd had legal standing to challenge this. We're still not going to be able to get it lifted prior to October 15.

So straight up the decision has completely decimated our tourism industry. We're supposed to be Canada's ocean playground. We're wiped out when it comes to tourism right now. On top of that, permits have been given to industrial applications where people could still work in the woods do a number of things. And we had a fire start right on the edge of Halifax yesterday, where people were working in an industrial capacity, and they were breaking rocks,

and somehow they got a spark and lit into the woods. And now we have water bombers here from New Brunswick, fighting that fire. And the reason they're from here from New Brunswick, because of 2012 our Premier, removed the only hell attack team that we had and the capacity to deliver front line rapid attack people to forest fires when they break out.

So kind of what we're dealing with is common sense has left the building and fear has creeped in at every aspect in the population in Nova Scotia. And the province and the press have done an excellent job of terrifying people to the point that can't think rationally. And you'd be surprised, Sean, how many people down here are supporting this, not realizing what a slippery slope that we're on. I guess as what I was, you know, we were just camping this weekend

and we got into quite the discussion over Nova Scotia. And I was wondering, I was saying, well, I got Peter coming on. I'm going to be interested to hear what you have to say. Because, you know, like sitting all the way over in Alberta, I am not, I brought it up to John Carpe earlier this week. you know, I'm not naive anymore to think this can't go through province by province. You know, Alberta's had its fair share of bad forest fires. And to think that it can't come to Alberta or it can't go to different parts of Canada,

this lockdown mentality of just don't step foot in a forest, I think would be, well, I'm no longer naive. So I am curious, in Nova Scotia, you're saying more people are supporting this than not. Yeah, yeah. Actually, it's been a highly effective fear campaign. So what you're seeing now is I'm seeing comments. I'm actually getting comments from people that are living in apartment buildings in downtown Halifax worried about their house burning now. So when you start getting those kind of responses and the big thing is,

is you're being selfish and why do you need to walk in the woods? And so you have to look at proportionality as to what the Premier decided to do. Golf courses in the woods aren't closed, but fishing is. I can't walk in the woods, but indigenous people can. I mean, there's no logical application of the rules in this particular case. And, you know, a road race along a highway gets canceled, yet some kind of activity in the woodlands doesn't. And here's what's really crazy. When the, in 2012, the provincial government completely did.

dismantled all our forest fire towers around the province. We had an excellent system here of fire towers. You know, the smoky to bear towers, guys get up in the spring and they come back, they stay up there till the fall. And we had an excellent working system. And it was going to take some significant dollars to do upkeep on them and keep the system working. And at the time, the province elected to destroy all those fire towers. And the logic they used, Sean, was that with the advent of cell phones,

everyone traveling in the woods in Nova Scotia now would be carrying a cell phone. and that would replace the tower system as our early warning system. So if you were way in the back country and you saw a smoke, you'd call it in and then they would respond. But the problem is, as the time that while they were tearing down the towers, they also disbanded our Hellattack, rapid response team. So even if you were back in the woods and you called in, it might take two hours for a ground crew to get there. And where Helatag would have kept the fire down to maybe three acres,

now you're looking at a 300 or a thousand acre fire. and the biggest fire we had in the province of the history, our province's history in 2023 was around 60,000 acres. And Hellatack probably could have kept that thing under our hundred. So is there any, like, is there any talk like bringing them back? Or is that like, you know, we're just going to eliminate people from walking in the forest. And that's going to be how we get around this. Well, you mean in regards to bringing in like a Hell attack team, someone that was going to rely on.

Well, after the Jasper fire, the feds threw a bunch of money at the different provinces. And in 2016, after we sold our biggest helicopter with the most water dropping capacity, and the only helicopter, by the way, that could move a helotac team, they bought smaller helicopters that didn't have the same capacity, water dropping capacity. And then when the feds threw money at the premier, instead of buying a helicopter capable of that, he bought four the exact same type of helicopters and none of them None of them are going to be capable to deliver a helotact team. And I know out in Alberta, I've been out there fighting fires,

how much you guys rely on your rap teams and your helotac team without them. The woods burns down. I mean, those guys are your front line, very best guys that they have. So we don't have that down here now, and nobody's willing to say we screwed up, and let's fix this. They're doubling down. So not only if you are you not allowed to travel in the woods, Sean, if you get a permit for industrial reasons or any type of a travel permit,

one of the conditions is that you can't have a cell phone or a smart watch on your person because the electric batteries may blow up and cause a fire. So right now, Nova Scotians, most Nova Scotians aren't aware that the entire overwatch system for forest fires in Nova Scotia doesn't exist right now. You could be up in our Cape Breton Islands, and by the time a fire gets reported, it could be a blaze that burns from one into the island to the other. So logic has logic and Elvis have both left the building. Um, in your career, 29 years, correct?

29 years, but as I see on probably over 100 fires. Like if you're sitting in this command center and you're like back when you're in there and you got bad forest fires, right? You got you got some serious one on. Yeah. What would you be instructing the public? I highly doubt you'd be like, oh, yeah, we should keep everyone from doing anything outdoors. That's going to help. What, like, what was the, like, what did it used to be, Peter, to where it is now?

So what it used to be, we used to have a paper fire, fire permit system where you had to come into a district office if you wanted to burn, pay a couple of bucks, talk to a tech or someone behind a desk who in turn would tell you that, in my case, 50% of the time I'd talk you about a burning. I'd say, no, why don't you wait till it's raining? Why don't you wait till the end of the fire season? This is not important, right? And then we had legislation where you could have campfires and stuff. So basically what would happen is when the weather got extreme, all of us, all of the technical staff, we were restricted on movement. We had to have all our gear ready to roll. We had fire crews back then in each district that were five-man teams.

And after 2000, the province cut those back to three-man teams. And by the way, Sean, this is when the real hype was starting to build out about, you know, global warming. and we were looking at, you know, massive infernos in the country would burn. So you would think that rather than cut back teams, they would be adding to them. But they didn't, they cut back. So then they get rid of our helotag team, they get rid of our fire towers, and then they get rid of our burn a perming system. So now every day, if you want to burn in Nova Scotia,

you're supposed to go to the fire weather index data on the government website. And there's a big map and it says you can either burn or you can't burn. So people need to understand, we've had burn bans all summer. like in different areas. If you hadn't had brain for a week, you wouldn't be allowed to burn. In another area, it might have had two inches rain and go ahead, have batter. And so that system's worked, and it's worked over the history of since 1970, fighting fires in the province.

And the Premier, to be honest with you, I think he has a little bit of PTSD over what happened in 2023 because he had a meeting with his MLAs and said, look, I can't sleep at night. I can't tossing and turning. I had a seat with, sit with families back in 2020. when we had our big arson fire and another fire caused by intent Allen, where a person was burning when they weren't supposed to. And we had $189 million worth of damage.

But nobody died. But he said he's having nightmares about sitting with people, finding charred bodies and homes and stuff. So obviously, the premier is having some kind of a mental issue. Maybe I'm not a doctor, but I'm recommending that he check into our broken health care system and ask for some mental help. And then let us know how that one works out. wouldn't the i i you once again you're you're the expert on this subject when you go we had a really bad fire

yep um i'm going back to some of the conversations i had last year around the alberta wildfires and the the logical things they were talking about then was like forest management uh just by you know getting rid of the deadfall and different things prescribed burns etc etc and basically allowing forestry in to do what they do in certain parts to remove the capabilities of a giant wildfire going ballistic, but then pouring some money into everything they've taken away. Wouldn't that have, you know, back in 2023, when you come through the year, you go, okay, we've got a problem. We need to address it. Instead, they've gone, we're just not going to allow people in the woods. With that level of common sense, you're probably

going to find yourself in a re-education camp, Sean, right? I'm just saying. So, What you're saying makes 100% accurate because we had a major hurricane come through the province a couple of years ago. And all that massive damage is still laying on the ground. And it's actually crisscrossed the way the pattern ran. So once fires get into it, you're not even going to be able to fight them. It's going to be all aerial and all firebreak. You're not going to be able to put an actual manpower in on those fires. So very little, if any money at all was put in, private landowners could do some stuff.

but the province has done virtually nothing. It's kind of like the same mess that you had outside of Jasper where the government knows there's a problem. And they do anything about it. And they don't want to deal with it. And so right now, after that 2023 fire out in Tantalan, that was $189 million in damage, which is a lot for Nova Scotia.

So at the time the Premier suggestions were made that to bring back teams of guys like myself that were ready to go in and help on these fires, even though we were retired guys, we were still, you know, still in shape. We'd still pass stuff and go in help out. And to do what Alberta did and put together teams of those guys. So rather than do that, the Premier doubled down and said,

I'm going to start up something called the Scotia Guard, and we're going to look for 300 volunteers, and we're going to train them up, and we're going to call these guys and we need them for snow removal or storms or fires. So what happened is he bypassed all of the existing volunteer groups, and then, you know, they lost their pin over that one. And then he had a double back. And he hired an expensive consultant and they come in and said, here's what we need to do.

And I really thought that, you know what, if they can actually pull this off, it's not a bad idea. But when the fire ban was first put in, I got a phone call right away from one of the guys said, Pete, I hope we're not called in. We haven't had any training in 10 months. We're not geared up. We don't have our in place that we need. And there's no way we're in a position that we can go in and help with any front line work on fires. We're just not up for it. We're not trained. And so the Premier knows a couple of things. He knows that there's extensive that we have, you know, some high risk areas.

We have a lot of, we have a lot of fire load, a lot of fuel loan on the ground. But, and he also knows that we don't have the capacity for proper aerial attack here in the province. We have to rely on what we had to yesterday to bring in planes from New Brunswick. And they were 802. I forget what the make was on them. They can drop a fair bit of water. But the issue is they're not nearly, they're not nearly as, uh, capable for the terrain that we have down here for dropping water.

Helicopters are the answers for Nova Scotia, just because of the hilly terrain and mountain and stuff that we have. And we have a lot of small lakes, and they're perfect for doing Bambi bucket dips rather than scooping stuff up with bigger aircraft. And they kind of figured that out. But the issue is a lot of people have made serious managerial mistakes, Sean, and nobody wants to admit that they screwed up bad,

because to fix this, a bunch of people's heads got to roll. because it's been gross, negligent mismanagement. And so you asked earlier, so what did we do back in the day? What we did back in the day, we made sure that all the local fire departments in the spring had pump kits, like our full fire, wage X pumps, backpacks, 20 lints of hose, all the gears so that they could launch an initial attack with gear that they didn't normally have.

Fire gear is different than, you know, bunker gear for houses and stuff that they needed. They don't even deliver all. I got a call from a fire guy, volunteer fire department here two days ago, told me this spring. They brought them a 10 lads of hose and no pump. Right? So it's still the cut back. It's almost as if it's, I can't blame all this on negligence. It's impossible to beat the climate change drum and allow these things to happen and not mitigate the risk.

And now we've got a Premier, right, who was just spotted in a, he's just recently spotted in a barbecue up in, at Christia Freelands, him and Doug Ford were the only two conservatives there. And John Crutch-in and some really high-level liberals were there. And the deed, I have people asking me now, what kind of a deal do you think Mark Carney caught with Tim Houston to bring in a 10-week, you know, first-time oppressive freedom-stealing policy like that? this, what kind of a side deal is he cut with Mark Carney and what's in it for the province? Because right now the province wants to create the largest ocean windmill farm on Canada's East Coast and the province needs billions and billions of dollars to move with evidence. And the only way they can get that money is through Ottawa from Mark Carney. So because I was an investigator for the bulk of my career, I just look at evidence and then

I start looking at preponderance of evidence and I go, where's this? pointing why would Tim Houston do this and why would he violate the charter no one in this case he's going to lose this case but the issue is all of a sudden once he did it then Newfoundland they went they lost their marbles and they started putting in 50 to 150 000 fines and six months in jail and then a couple of days ago the premier in New Brunswick started off asking people to stay out of the woods and now they made it now they made it a criminal offense to do the same thing walking the woods in New Brunswick but down there they're a little more reasonable here in Nova Scotia Sean are fine for starting a fire you weren't allowed to used to be 237 dollars

and now what Jeff Evely got is 28,872 dollars and 50 cents and he walked 13 steps into the woods in front of a conservation officer which I used to be then walked out and they wrote him a ticket and they were going to write him a second ticket because they ordered him not to do it for failing to follow that order. Instead, you know, they cut him a little slack. They wrote them for one ticket. But he had to do that in order to get standing in court for a charter challenge. So Jeff called me up and said, Pete, what's the best way to handle this? And I said, go find us, go find a conservation officer, do it in front of him. Be nice about the whole thing. I mean, he's got a job to do and you've got a point to make. And we need a court challenge. And he went and did it. And now

we're basically in Nova Scotia is the laughing stop of the world. of anybody whose brain cells are still function. Okay, I have a question for you, because I'd had a listener text me about it, and I'd seen, I don't know the lady from your government in Nova Scot. She was talking about, they kind of changed their tune. First, it was like, we're going to lock you all out because we don't want any forest fires to happen.

And then when they caught some flack, obviously, then it was, well, if you break your arm or you fall down or you have a heart attack, nobody's coming to save you. That was the premier of New Brunswick, if you said that. Mike, so the question that came in through the audience was basically, well, they just

want people to stay away from the dangerous zones. And so they don't, they're blanketing it so that nobody goes into a dangerous zone. Your thoughts on that? Well, you have to define what's dangerous. So right now you're not allowed to park in a parking lot and walk any distance through

the woods, a couple of hundred feet to a beach. What people need to understand when they made this blanket, they made it blanket. And that's why they're not going to survive a charter challenge because they were supposed to make accommodations where it made common sense. So like I said, down here right now, Sean, indigenous, this doesn't apply to indigenous peoples. And it doesn't apply to golf courses, but applies to me.

You want to go trout fishing. So, so if I can, a golf course, you saw a joke about you. You hit the ball into the woods. You can go get your ball. No. You can, but it'll cost you $28,872. sense and if your buddy goes with you they find him too let me let me put it to you how ridiculous it is tim euston has said even if it rains we're not lifting the band so where i should

this morning it was raining i shouldn't laugh but this is this feels it's ridiculous yeah so even this morning where i lived it was raining if my wife and i if we took a dog and went for a walk today in the woods in a light rain right where the fw i's basically down to zero because you find feel moisture cold while it's raining gets pretty low Right. Between her and I, we would be looking at around $57,000 in fines. And if my kid, I'll give you an example, we had people down here that got a hold of me that had come down to Nova Scotia. You know, I mean, we're known for being a friendly bunch. And this time of year, it's just fantastic down here. And Buddy came down from, I think he was out in Alberta. And he said, four days of this, I'm gone, bud.

And so I warned him, by the way, while you're leaving, if you've got a kid in the car and that kid on the side of the highway, needs to have a leak and needs to go in the woods, right? There's 20, there's 28 grand. And even as part of that fine, Sean, it's a $25,000 fine. And when you back it up to another $3,800, part of that is a victim's fee that they tack on to it. And the other thing in Nova Scotia is just to add to the more absurdity is if you own the land, then you can walk in the woods. But if you bring a friend or another person who's not part owner of the property on the property with you, then they get fine. Walk me through if you're indigenous, how you don't get fined. They made separate rules for different people? Well, yeah, because when the provincial

government makes any type of declaration, it doesn't, in this case, the Forest Act doesn't apply to federal land. So we've got a big federal park too now in Cape Breton Highlands. It doesn't apply to them. and it doesn't apply to any of the, any of the reserves. So technically, natives can have a huge bonfire right on the border in wooded area next to the reserve, which, you know, if they get a forest fire, it's force fires tend not to notice property lines. There's nothing that can be done about it. So I called firehead quarters here a couple of days ago and asked them. I wanted to get clarity on the golf course issue.

I said, how can golf courses in the woods not be closed? Well, basically because a lot of people that pay big golf fees throw money at Tim Houston's re-election campaign. So he doesn't want to mess with the golfers, right? So they said, well, that's a good question, but we can't answer. It's kind of up to the individual golf course. They said, well, no, if they're in the woods, they're in the woods. How can they be allowed to be open? Well, that's a good question, and I don't have an answer.

I'm talking to the manager, for fire, fordfire protection. And I said, I got another quick question for you. I said, the province said that if it's a really short walk to a beach, right, that you can see, then we'll look the other way on it. And I said, so I need a definition because everything in legalese has to be a good thing. Yeah, what's a really short walk? Yeah. So what's the definition of a short walk?

I said to some people, it's 10 feet. I know people that would think a kilometer would be a short walk. So what is it? Well, he said, we don't have one. I don't know. I said, you're the head of fire management. I mean, you're involved in these proclamations. Yeah, I know, but I don't know.

and I don't even know who to refer you to. So I said, well, what about indigenous peoples? And they said, well, you're right. It doesn't apply on federal land. And I can't tell you whether they're going to be able to apply it or not off res. But I don't think we're going to be able to. And I went, okay. So this has got nothing to do with fire.

I have no idea whether the premier is so hot to trot to shut down everything happened in the woods in Nova Scotia. Because in one declaration, John, he completely destroyed our tourism industry. it's done buddy and i mean done and this was the money season right now and he wiped it out because why would you why would you book coming down here knowing that you know you can't do anything well yeah look i'm a fisherman like my trout season's gone uh i'm a whitetail hunter bow hunting season and not not just the seasons this is prep time you're not allowed in the woods to do prep you can't go in the woods right now and pick raspberries or blackberries or blueberries buddy right you can't you can't go for a walk on wood on wooded trails in the city of halifax and those things that you know and

their gravel trails but if they have a canopy over them they're they're uh defined as woods and that's the shortcuts the people travel through all around uh you know across the province you're not allowed to go through them 28 grand buddy and even if it's raining and the preven said premier said it doesn't matter right so i think what the premier has realized they've screwed up so bad that if they do get a major fire, it's all going to be dumped straight in their lap. Because the weather conditions now were worse than we had our two biggest fires. But I've seen that lots of times. I'm looking at there's a major code in a fire weather index.

It's called the drought code. And that's how dry big logs laying on the ground are. And I remember multiple times, you know, down in the district when I was on fire duty, that the drought code would exceed well over 500. And when all this was called, most of the drought code was down in 300. And I'm going, this is insane. This is that what's happening here is absolute lunacy. And I'll bring up another thing, too, is that even in the spring, the grass fires that we have,

we get those grass fires because the grass is dry and we get fires before green up. And right now, a lot of the fields and stuff are dry, but you're still allowed to drive a vehicle in those fields. Not in the woods. It's kind of like Jeff Evely said in his video. This is not the woods. This is a field. But you can drive through the field and set the feel on fire with your vehicle, but you can't park it and then get out and walk 10 feet into the woods to have a leak because that's $28,000 plus in pines. So like I said, common sense has left the building. And the worst thing down here right now, Sean, we're dealing with us is the propaganda and the fear that's being peddled by the press and by the government is that probably six out of ten people have gotten to the point that they don't know. how the system works they don't know that there's regular bands and they think that they're to the point that they actually believe their homes in the woods will burn down and that they need tim houston to come

in the government and save them and trying to get it through to them it's the same thing with the covid response right a lot of these are the same people that are still to this day are driving around nova scotia with a mask on by themselves in a car when it's uh you know 85 degrees out Fahrenheit. By the way, the other thing down here yesterday, we had a heat warning all across the province and heat warning was for 78 degrees Fahrenheit on the old scale. I'm old enough to remember the Fahrenheit scale. Buddy, we didn't go to the beach to look up to the 85. And they had a red, they had all red born this flashing on my computer and flashing on my phone. Heat morning, heat morning. And I'm going, this is insane. Peter, you know, like sitting on the other side of the country.

Yeah. I have this like surreal feeling that I'm looking at. into what aliens would have looked at Canada in the middle of COVID. You know, and we started like, you can't go, you can't, you can't go on a playground. Or I brought up Ocean Wise Black get arrested on the outdoor rink. Or closing down gyms and churches and all these things and leaving liquor stores. And you're just like, none of these, this doesn't make sense. How are people going along with this? And so I sit here and I go, how are people in Nova Scotia going along with this, except I remember COVID?

So I'm just assuming the fear is just at an epic level. Nova Scotia because over here I'm like yeah I mean it's pouring rain right now outside I can hear it but I'm like I'm sitting here going almost in disbelief that people are going along with it especially coming out of COVID yeah well I don't want to go too far back in history but in the Nuremberg trials after World War II they asked Herman Guring how did you get people to go along with everything that Hitler wanted done and he said it was easy all we had to do is induce fear into them and we could get them to do anything and I'm watching I'm watching people that are normally intelligent people and they've literally lost their marbles when it comes to the fire down here

because nobody wants to burn to death and if I can convince you that if you don't do what I tell you to do as a premium you're going to burn to death you're going to burn to death and people are believe let's put it in perspective shot last year we had 77 people killed on our highways in the history of Nova Scotia we've never had anybody killed in a fire force fire not one person we've had more people killed by coyotes in Nova Scotia than by force fires and so let's take it to an extreme. If the Premier can lock us down in a climate lockdown, let's call it what it really is. And if he can climate lockdown, lock us down for 10 weeks in order to keep us safe, what would stop them potentially from maybe doing a side deal with Mark Carney says, let's

start shutting down traffic on long weekends because ultimately it'll keep a lot more people safe. But guys, you know, and it's only going to be a couple of long weekends to kind of flatten the accident curve. We've got too many fatalities on the iv. We need to flatten that curve. And you guys need on this long weekend, it's time to stay home with your family and do stuff around the yard because you can't go in the woods. So why don't you just stay home? And by the way, nobody's banned electric vehicles driving through the woods. So I talked with some of the guys in the volunteer fire departments and they said, but if an electric vehicle gets going, we don't have the capacity to put it out. There's nothing. He said, what do you do? He said, we try to keep it

from spreading into the rounding area until it burns itself out into the ground. And there's no talk of that. We had a force fire start down here a couple of days ago from a train. And that used to be a common occurrence down here. I don't hear the Premier talking about banning rail traffic. So, you know, apparently if you're connected or one reason or another, it's, everything that's happening to Sean is nonsensical. And I don't know any other way how to put it is that the Premier,

we believed, rigged the last snap election, kept 19 independents off the ballot. People don't understand if we had done down here what we set out to do, this would never be happening. Because they'd have to justify it. And we'd say, and a guy like me would say, well, show me the force fire weather indexes. And I'll tell you whether this is legit or not. But then I talked to another friend today who was a lawyer who was contacting the head of the Justice Department to find out, Jim Houston run to buy you guys at all. Does he not know what's coming?

Right? But it's not his money. You got to remember if somebody has a charter challenge against oppression by an elected official, doesn't cost the elected official five cents. It's not his money, my money. He doesn't care. As long as he gets people to do exactly what he tells, we haven't had one MLA in the entire province speak out against this,

because every one of them will go under the bus by Tim Houston. You haven't had one MLA? Not one. Not one has said anything. Not one, buddy. So that's kind of the problems we're having down here. But, you know, when I was a kid growing up down here, Sean, in Cape Breton Island, We were a scrappy bunch.

Someone tried with this nonsense. Buddy, they'd have had about 10 people at the house. And if he was wearing a necktie, he'd even pulled out by the necktie. And from there, he might be going on an ambulance. For real. I mean, people back then, they wouldn't tolerate this. And now, you know, this warrior class that I'm descended from, you know, I got a couple kids.

I passed it on, but I don't know what happened to everybody else. So down here, the fight's gone out of the fighters. And it's a massive fear campaign. coordinated by the government and and bribe media. When you say, sorry, when you say this massive fear campaign, the one thing I saw, I just pulled it back up because I wanted to remind myself, historic wildfires, state of emergency, evacuations, different words like that. Like when you say like the fear campaign, what are they pushing on the people that's

working so well? Well, because there's only the two major cities. in Nova Scotia, there's Sydney and there's Halifax. Everybody else is rural, right? And up in Truro and picked on in Glasgow, smaller areas, but basically Nova Scotia is still, other than those two main centers, is rural island, almost an island.

And so what happens in those communities, people live in the woods, and they own acreage and they travel and they do that stuff. And so what he is telling me that the woods are tendered or eye. I don't want to see, and that's what he keeps beating the drum. I don't want to see a repeat of 2023. Well, 2023 happened because you didn't fix the situation. I was fishing with Tim Houston in 2015 and warned him one day this was going to happen.

I think I might even put it in my book. The Redneck Conservatives talked about here's what's happened. Here's what's going to happen. I mean, I'm not a psychic, but it's simple. Everything that I see happening here is predictable. And then when you get a person like Tim in who's a pathological liar and he's on a major power trip nonstop, this is what can happen. And that's why people say all the time, well, it's not going to happen.

Well, if it's possible in legislation, we all anticipate that most people that get elected, you know, we'll have a half decent head on their shoulders and not represent raw evil. But what happens when one of those people slips into power? We've got problems here in Canada. We've got a Mark Carney in Ottawa. And then we've got Tim Houston down here. And then we've got another wingnut premier in Glasgow or in New Brunswick saying, we don't want you in the woods because if you're spraying your ankle, we can't go in and save you.

Because the woods is going to catch on fire with you walking with your Nike's in the woods. That ship sailed. And people are going, this is nonsense. And like I said, the big thing, Sean, is the entire emergency alert system that the province was depending on, people in the woods with cell phones, is gone now. So when we get a fire buddy, it's going to be a major one. And then Tim Houston will say, I told you so. You shouldn't have been in the woods. So I did some more data research. And between 2007 and 2023, the data says that our number one cause of fires in Nova Scotia was arson. We had 1144 arson fires. We had another 302 that were unknown. And I'm a forest fire investigator as well. And unknown normally means arson that we can't prove. We're 99% positive, but we can't definitively say arson.

So you're looking at roughly about 17 over 1,700 fires, the bulk of the fires in Nova Scotia arson. And I'll give you an example just out in Saskatchewan, a volunteer fire department guy, he just got caught light and 30 fires, right? And he ended up getting 18 months probation and 200 hours of community service. You know, there was a time you pulled that racket. Somebody would have strung you up in a tree. And today, I mean, you can rape a person in Canada. and get a lot less of the civil penalty than what's happening here in Nova Scotia.

I think the fine down here for drunk driving is five grand, right? The only other time we had big fines like that was when Tim Houston was the first guy to come up with it. And that was when the truckers convoid. A lot of people were leaving Nova Scotia. People were on overpasses with signs going, hey, freedom, and we lobbying all this stuff. Tim Houston come out and banned it and said if you're standing on the side of the road with a sign that says, freedom. It's going to cost you 25 grand. Tim Houston did that. Yeah, Tim Houston did that. And then on 2023, when the fire started, he put a travel ban on then. And Jeff Evely at the time,

he actually tried to get a charter challenge against it. And the judge said he didn't have standing because he didn't have a ticket. This time, Jeff went and made sure he got a ticket. But when the, when the premier says that he promises, if we get enough rain, he'll pull the ban. Well, People need to know that in 2023, we had record-breaking rains in Nova Scotia for days, and he still wouldn't lift the band. Where I am in Bible Hill, we had the worst flooding in over 100 years on our main drag here. It was 10 feet underwater. Cars, homes, everything destroyed. And he would not lift the travel ban by it. I mean, he did eventually, but when he did, he didn't lift it in areas where those other major fires had been.

So what you're looking for, I can tell you're like me, because I spend a lot of time just putting my hand on my face. like this go none of this makes sense it's just not well well okay it doesn't make sense but it kind of makes sense right like okay now is what you know right if i if i take a step back you know like when alberta's forest fires happened and then all the stuff came out about the federal government knowing about it and that they didn't you know like this idea in the climate change zeitgeist of like we can't go in the forest because if we don't go in the forest we won't ruin things and then you talk to enough people of forest management and on and on and on you go actually that's like completely backwards we need to be in there so there was a there was a team in jasper with over 50 professional forest fighters and 20

pieces of heavy equipment that showed up and they wouldn't allow them to save homes in jasper federal government said no not allowed to do it so even down here in the big 2023 fires uh i put together a team of professionals and we offered to go to work for the government for five days in a row contact the premier the minister's office and fire control And we could have been anywhere within four hours and give them an 18-day stint. And for five days in a row, while homes were burning down on $189 million worth of damage was piling up, they turned us down for five days in a row. I did a video of it.

We've got 177 million views worldwide on it. I blew the whistle on it. And after that, it was quite clear that here's what needed to be done. I asked to be involved in the fire review that takes place afterwards. and the city of Halifax wouldn't get me in and DNR wouldn't bring me in because I was going to eviscerate the people that made the decision. By the way, the people who screwed up in 2023, they're all still managing things right now in the province. So people need to understand here's how things happen in Nova Scotia. Normally what would happen is people saying, well, we're taking

advice from the professionals at fire control to Nova Scotia. That's not the way it works. In Nova Scotia, the Premier decides what he wants to do. He tells the minister what he wants done, who then tells his deputy minister who then tells a director who then tells a manager. And anywhere's along that step if somebody doesn't do what they're supposed to say, if you're on government payroll, you're not going to be on it much longer. And in a small province like Nova Scotia, you're going to be blacklisted and you're not going to be working here anymore. There hasn't been one single person working for DNR come out and said anything of the stuff that I'm saying. And I'm in a good position. I can say these things, right? But you got to remember, 29 years doing this stuff,

but there's nobody pulling the wool over my eyes. I can look at data and I can read data and I know exactly what's happening. So on a bunch of the interviews that we've been doing is it comes out, okay, this can't be just negligence. Nobody's this dumb. Nobody is this disconnected. Okay. So why would anybody push this on somebody in North America? Why would they pick Nova Scotia to try it in?

Well, you got to remember that, for example, even Nova Scotia, our second largest trading partner is China. And they put a tariff on our fishing industry this spring, lobster season, all the rest of it. Our Premier never said a word about it. Not a peep. No complaints. Didn't say anything.

I'm looking what's happening in the Midwest. What just happened to canola? The canola industry in Canada literally just got wiped out. The Chinese put a 75% tariff on it. Three weeks before harvest, they're done. And I don't hear anybody. I don't hear Mark Carney fighting about it. But nobody's talking about outside levers making decisions as to what happens inside of Canada.

So I look at this in Nova Scotia and say, this is so radical and off the rails, bat, shit, crazy. How are, I mean, who would even think five years ago that this would ever happen? I mean, I've got a daughter right now who lives in airdry. And she said, Dad, I smell smoke almost every day. She said, we'd still go in the woods. What are you talking about? I said, not down here, my dear. And it's absolute, it's total oppression.

And because people are afraid, they've lost their ability to think critically. And I've watched that in COVID, too. We had family members, like, they literally lost their minds. They were convinced that they would die without masks and all the rest of their stuff. I saw a great meme the other day. It was someone walking in the woods in Nova Scotia. They had all the plastic shields on either side of a trail, and they had a mask on and rubber gloves. So that, that would, you know, maybe that's what we need in Nova Scotia.

maybe that's what Tim Houston wants. That way you don't have to be afraid, except for when the plastic melts to you, then you got an issue. But when I look at the preponderance of the evidence, Sean, this is absolute lunacy. There's no other words to, there's no other words to describe it. And meanwhile, because I just said this, I'll be getting threats. You should know better. You were a force firefighter. What if my house burns down? What about the volunteers who work?

And, you know, I put together a spoof of this the other day. I said, well, you know, I talked about the 77 people killed Karex this last. year and if he decides to shut down the highway. Imagine what the poor volunteers that, you know, pull people out of those accidents have to go to and they're not paid and because it's the safest thing to do. I mean, we're going to have to support this. And if the premier is behind this, we all need to get behind it and park our cars this long weekend. I don't even think I should have put it out there because it's going to get too many radical cooks, an idea and go, you know what? That's not a bad idea. I think in order to save the planet,

we need to stop people driving as much as possible. But only until we flat. in the death count, right? You know, when I was looking, when, well, when I was looking at Alberta, right? Yeah. You talk about putting your investigator hat on. Yeah. And you talk about when you wrote your book, you wrote that this was, you could just foresee it coming. There's going to be a time where we've removed the safety measures to warn us.

We've removed the ability to get it when it first starts. Correct. So we're setting the conditions for bad forest fires. And when you're trying to set the conditions for a climate emergency, you remove all the safety measures so that you can have the thing that's going to induce the most fear. Am I wrong on reading that tea leaves? Actually, that should be on a big poster, on a big wall, on a big highway thing, that when you drive into Alberta, that level of common sense is to be aware that this is what the federal government is trying to get you to believe.

Because what you said is 100% accurate. So like I said, I look at the evidence. We should have doubled our firefighting capacity, not cut it in half. And I looked and they did, even when Rachel Notley was in, look at the amount of, you guys, I think you lost your rap teams. And for people who don't know a rap team, there's a hell attack team, and then the best of the best are the rap teams. Those are the guys that will hover over an area and then and then repel to the ground with all their gear. And then cut a landing craft just for a helicopter to be able to land so they can get to work. And then the helicopter starts dropping gear.

Helatac, they have to have an existing place where a chopper can land in the middle of the road. But those guys go in and routinely keep fires here in Nova Scotia down to a couple of acres. And without them, those fires can turn into what happened in our two biggest fires we had in the problem. It's no rap team to record-breaking fires. Or no hel-attack team. And the Premier knows that. And he just got money and could have solved the issue and hasn't done any of the above. even the Scotia Guard where he put together a team of 300 people they haven't done any training in 10 months

I had a guy called me up he said it's a great idea but we haven't done any training we don't have radios we don't have her gear we have none of the above he said on a fire right now Pete we'd be a lot more hindrance than help but we went in there with the training a lot of the guys have the level end up dead you know I am in the middle of COVID I always thought you know what like why aren't we talking to people you know that have some expertise in these different realms. And then, of course, I sat on COVID for forever and I have very different thoughts. But, you know, I understand. And when I look at this, I'm like, so, you know, you go through this year.

Let's just say we wipe out the years before, okay? Yeah. You get through this. A common sense, which does not seem to go with any government right now, common sense would be you bring in guys such as yourself who've done this job for a long time. Remember the times where you had all the safety. And you go, okay, well, you know what? We just went through this wildfire where we shut everything down.

The public is going to probably support boosting how much money and putting in the measures so that we can enjoy the forest and everything else. 100%. But there's nothing that tells you they're going to do that. The city of Halifax, Sean, wants to spend close to $100 million on bike lanes while people in Halifax can't go on trails because they're worried about their house burning down. Right. And so the Premier in the last snap election he called last November, he dismissed the bridge tolls going from Dartmouth to Halifax.

And the maintenance on the bridge is roughly 20 million bucks a year. And so that would be user pay. So they eliminated that to buy boats. What if that $20 million hadn't been eliminated because now it's got to come out of provincial coffers? And they went out and actually bought, let's say they bought four state-of-the-art medium helicopters, ones that could deliver Halitak teams, ones that cost around $4 million. right and then they've got their annual budget from that point out once they outright buy them then they have them and they've got their pilots and they've got their crews and the rest of that and they were strategically located in four places around the province and let's say you never use them for the next three years

when you do this stuff this is like buying house insurance you buy house insurance hoping you never need it and if you don't need it for 10 years you don't go ah you know what haven't used it for 10 years let's cancel it then your house burns down and so that's what the province has done But I look at exactly what you said because the narrative is we're in a climate emergency. And that's why I get these, you know, I get these warnings constantly on my phone. 26 degrees Celsius, which is 70, I think 78 degrees. I forget what it, but it's absolutely nonsensical. People in the US think we're, we're retired.

I shouldn't use the word, but I mean, that we're crazy, right? Well, you can say it. We've become a bit retarded up up north here in different avenues. Well, yes. I mean, yeah, people are starting to think what's wrong with you, people. You guys were the settlers. You guys were the Scottish Highlands which come over here in Nova Scotia. And you were the scrappers because he didn't want to be ordered around by the king.

Well, now we've got a premier thinks he's a king and he does stuff by decree. Right? And it's the same thing in Newfoundland. But the Newfoundlanders, I got to give them credit because they banned all ATV travel. And the boys said buys. There's going to be no ban in ATVs. Right? And so they had to backtrack that and they said, well, you can have ATVs, but you've got to make sure you have spark arresters. We're supposed to have them in the first place. Here in Nova Scotia show, when you walk in the woods, there's legislation. You're not allowed a drop of cigarette buff. You can be fine for it.

And like I said, if you start a fire, they can bill you for the cost of suppression. So that was all in place. Everything that was in place and it was working. And all of a sudden, the Premier lost his mind. And I know that he didn't get advice from our fire control center to do what he did because they're going. That's nuts. Right. I watched last Friday the head of fire control stand up and give a lecture there on Facebook. And I responded underneath him and I said, Scott, why don't you just tell the truth? You know that the data doesn't support a blanket ban. It just doesn't.

But they can't do it because small province, 1.1 million people. if you cross the Premier, your career is pretty much over, bud. I don't care. Like I said, I've been fishing with him. He knows enough about me to basically kind of leave me alone, right? So I can get away with saying this stuff, Sean. Most people can. Most people, if you want to cut anything, you'll be hammered by them.

It's just, you know, man, it just, COVID is way too fresh in my mind. When you talk about looking at the data, okay, just, can we just go look at the data and see where, you know, like you want to get extreme with some fire precaution. Okay. Because you're not saying, I don't think I'm hearing, Peter, where you're like, you know, it's dry. Just go throw cigarette butts wherever you want. Just go light fires wherever I want.

Like none of the above, but you're going. No. Sorry. 99% of the people in the province are responsible, but you can't legislate against stupidity. And you can't legislate against arson because you've already legislated against it. And that's our number one cause of fires. And then we have problems with power lines. And we have, I'll give you an example.

you know, the power company doesn't do the maintenance under the power lines that they should. I've been on a bunch of power line fires over my career. There's all kinds of things that happened. But the reality it is is now there's nobody out there when these little fires get going. Let's stop it at an acre before it turns into 10,000 acres. It's insane, man. And you've got, and nobody will stand up to the premier and tell the emperor, you're not wearing any clothes here, bud, right?

Because it's their careers on the line. And it's tragic. It really is. If we had done, succeeded at what we said to do, this would never be happening with the independent. So where does this lead to in Nova Scotia in particular? If it's going to last until October, you're not allowed to walk in the forest unless you get a, unless you want a $28,000 fine.

Where does this go in your mind for Nova Scotia? Well, what it does is if he gets away with this, it opens the door to any decree of any kind that he wants. So if they want to say, hey, look, if it's 15-minute city thing, right, we're going to put trackers on your car, but it's for the greater good. And, you know, we're looking at pollution. I mean, do you not love your kids? You know, I want them breathing fresh air. Surely to God Sean that you'll want to shut down some traffic, right? And it'll only be for on certain occasions. And maybe, you know, when the roads are snowy, we're going to have to keep people off the roads for a week and time. The bottom, what people don't understand on this is

this is, they had a saying in the Middle East, this is the camel with nose under the tent. This is that foot in the door. And when you put your foot in the door and do this stuff, you need your foot crushed in the door. It said you never stick your foot through a door again. And you'll spend yourself limping around for the next five years. So you won't do it. And so what has to happen is Tim Houston needs to be crushed over what he's doing here in a charter challenge because look what happened in Newfoundland. And then they said, well, Tim's getting away with it and the same thing in New Brunswick. And my understanding is as today, dumb Dougie up there in Ontario, he's thinking on the same stuff.

Maybe we'll just close down the woods. And if you think they're not watching the fear campaign and then looking at the data and the level of pushback and crunching the numbers saying, what can we get away with here? Because Mark Carney, in order to push his agenda that he talked about in his book called Values and the climate catastrophe, he needs stuff like this to happen. This feeds right into exactly what he's doing. As a matter of fact, the federal government is just a lot of $14 million for an education. program to teach little kids when they start school that we're in the middle of a climate catastrophe and serious steps have to be take or the world's going to burn down can't make it up but well no i mean i guess i just why is what's happening predictable because when you look at

things around forest fires in alberta i i believe you know since uh the conversation we had last year around it with so many different people you know it might be a bit of a bit of of an anomaly when it comes to the things we're doing with forest management and, and I'm sure I'm going to hear about it on the text line of different things with rapid response teams and the money going towards that. I want to say that they've been boosting that, but once again, listeners, feel free to hammer me with, because I can always go back and focus on what's happening here in the home province.

But when I look afar and look at just some recent examples, it just seems like they're reducing all the ability to stop things when it comes to forest fires. And you go, well, why would you do that? Well, you need climate. You can need, you need, yeah, you need, you need things that support that the world is burning. So then you get these giant fires that can't be, that could have been stopped is what you're saying in the old days because you would have had things in place to help stop them. So now you don't.

So now you, you drum up the fear campaign of like, you could burn, all your loved ones could burn. We need to stop this. We're all in this together. And instead of looking at it like, um, you know, different parts of Nova Scotia, it's super wet down there. Why do we have a fire ban? They do a blanket approach where nobody can do anything, which doesn't make any sense either, right? Different parts of the, the world get, I mean, I was just talking to a farmer last night, Peter. And he's got land in different spots. I was like, you know, I thought it was really dry. He's like, yeah, some of my fields are in rough shape. But, you know, you go across the river and all of a sudden we got more rain and and they're doing really well that's just two sides of a river and that's

exactly what's happening province yeah this this blanket approach which was my eyes were open in the middle of COVID right like you're everywhere all the same we're putting in the same restrictions like it you know and I guess to me it just like they've set it up knowing that fire season comes around once a year and there's and and knowing that if they have none of the safety precautions it's only going to get worse, which feeds into the climate catastrophe agenda. Correct. And so down here in Nova Scotia, if he gets away with it in this peak tourism season, the bulk of the numbers of the fire happened down here pre-green up early in the spring while everything's dry.

And grass fires, that type of stuff, and then you get some runoff into the woods. But I guarantee if he gets away with this next spring, if it's dry, they'll just shut her down in the spring. They'll say, no, nobody in the woods for six weeks in the spring. If they get away with this, it's this is going to be, this is, they're trying to establish a precedent. This has to be stopped. People don't understand the level of tyranny. I don't like to use tyranny, but the level of charter rights stealing oppression that this actually is, is off the rails. I mean, it's bad, it's bad shit crazy, Sean.

And so if you're ever going to get in a fight, this, be the one to get in because this stems this is going to flow into every other decision that the government makes and trudeau back when jasper happened he promised i think 500 million he was going to train a thousand force firefighters and buy aircraft and all kinds of stuff and it turns out they hired 300 extra firefighter somewhere and they haven't bought any water bombers it to be accurate down here in nova scotia we probably don't need a water bomb or what we need is helicopters just due to where terrain. Good quality, heavy capacity or medium capacity helicopters will suit our needs just fine.

And they're cheaper to maintain and there's a bunch of advantages because they can be used for multiple other tasks when you're not fighting fire with them. You said earlier that when you're doing your investigating, you brought up the windmills and that they want to, could you explain that to me a bit? So what the premier wants to do is offshore. they want to put in this massive ocean-based windmill firm. And the projection is that it'll provide energy for 30% of Canada. It's nonsense.

But it's a multi-multi-billion dollar project. And some of the key players in it will likely be Brookfield asset management. And the only way for Tim to get enough money to make this happen, he's going to need major funding from the federal government. And that will fit right into Mark Kearnie's climate agenda, well, we're going to go green. We're going to put all these windmills in the ocean. Well, he can't do it. He can't get the financing and the things he needs to make it happen in Nova Scotia without federal support. And Tim Houston is basically more, well, and everybody will

tell you in Nova Scotia, he's more of a liberal than any conservative. He's a progressive conservative. As a matter of fact, he went out of his way during the federal election to put newspaper articles out that said, we are not the federal conservative party. And when Pierre Paulieb would come down campaigning, he never, met with Tim Houston ever. He completely separated himself from the federal conservative party. So Tim's a liberal and now he's looking for liberal money. And what better way to drive that agenda, right? And they use the terminology that you use, Sean. We're all in this together. I mean, you have to look after your neighbors. What kind of a person would you, would you, I mean,

for God's sakes, man, find another place to walk. You don't need to walk in the woods and fishing's not that important. What golf is because we're not ban on that, but fishing is. And we don't want you in a kayak or a canoe and and you know this pick and berry things i mean you know what you're got a little too much weight on in it's cut back on your berry eating right don't be picking apples down down in the valley this year so it's nonsense it's absolute insane picking berries just go to the supermarket and get some curios or something market by the sprayed ones right don't be picking them wild ones just they're not near as good for you so what happens is is when people are afraid like i said common sense leaves the building and if nobody needs to

knows what the Milgram experiment is. Do you know what the Milgram experiment? Yeah, I knew. So the Milgram experiment, they proved that 80% of the population cannot defy an order from a person that they believe represents authority, even if they know it will kill somebody. Because in the Milgram experiment, they had a dial that said lethal. And people were screaming, right? And they were running electric shocks through them. But he said, no, no, it's all good. I got a white lab coat and thick black glasses and a clipboard. Listen to me. I'm the voice of authority. So we're, we're, we're, we're in the 20% is what you're saying. Well, and the CIA has already proved that and I talk about that in my book as well, we're the goats. It can't be hearded. And in all populations, there's 20% of the population who question everything. And those are nothing but problematic for government. Because there's 20% that won't question anything. They go, no, no. They would never lie to me. The press is telling me the truth and the government's my friend. And then there's that 60% in the middle. And that's where they target the efforts because they don't waste. their time on the goats and they don't need to waste any time on the sheep they own them but it's that

60% in the middle and that's where all this stuff is targeted what can we do to frighten that 60% and what what are the two things you know of the terrified people most one of them is something you can't see which is a disease and the other thing is dying in a fire you know i i when i when i when i try and understand it from like a people i'm like oh man it can't be that simple right but i was sitting with a farmer again yet last night. And he was talking about his cow cow cafford. And he said, yeah, I had to get rid of a few. And I said, oh, why is that? He said, oh, they kept going through the fence. Just can't have that. And when you bring it down to like the simplest thing when you have cows or whatever, you take out the bad apples and you ship

them off because it's a pain in your butt. And I think about, okay, so now you're the premier of a province. And I, you know, can it be that simple? It feels that simple, does it? And that's what Herman Guring said. It's that simple. Once you're afraid, we'll get you to do anything, buddy. I guarantee you if the premier come out and said, if you show up naked on one of the big bridges at 2 p.m., and you're willing to jump off that bridge, and we can guarantee you your home will never burn down because we'll give you a special treatment and do a bunch of stuff. There'll be a thousand people on the bridge tomorrow here in Alfax doing that. So it's, but that's the sad thing is, though, Sean, that's the power of fear. If I can make you afraid, I can get you to do anything. It's like rat, you know, we had people.

people, family wanting to rat us out. And one of the very first things after they put in, they put that in, they set up a snitch line. Very, one at the stage too, let's put in a ban. Now, you need to report anybody that you know that's breaking any of these rules. You need to snitch on them. And that's what it would even get in the reward, buddy. That's just being a a good citizen. You're being a good citizen by calling it on your neighbor. And you have to, and you have to do that because, you know, we're concerned about everybody's safety. Because this is all about safety. But then I go back. to the dead people on the highways.

If it's about safety, we have to start banning cars. And what does Mark Carney want to do right now? How many cars does Mark Carney want to ban for safety reasons and for electric vehicles? And nobody seems to think about this. So I want to bring up another stat there. Well, we still got a few minutes left is that Canada has fewer and fewer fires every year, but they're bigger and bigger and bigger. So we're actually having fewer fires than we ever had.

But they're bigger and bigger and bigger as they continue to keep cutting the fire. prevention budget you see the problem that we're dealing with here see and like i said john people can't believe that people in power can be that level of evil because i mean tim houston snookered me buddy and a lot of good people and then when he got in he cleaned house any of the real conservatives out the door they went he got rid of them all there's nobody left everybody's a red troy down here in old scotian now if you're involved with the progressive conservative party i've got good buddies of mine right now that have normal common sense that are telling me, well, geez, man, just go along with it. He said he's going to lift the ban.

It's not that big a deal. And I'm saying, guys. And the level of response that you get, the more they buy into it, I find that the more boosters they've taken. I hate to say that to people, but that's the reality of it. If you've had four to six, your lost cause, man, you're done. Well, it just, this close to COVID, I just like, anyone's saying, oh, it's just temporary. I'm like, do we remember?

And he's already proof. But it's not temporary. Like I said, record-breaking rain and you still kept it in place. It did not as long as this one. Well, I mean, I'm just like, we just lived through it. It'll be two weeks, right? I mean, two weeks flatten the curb. Oh, yeah, like this is, I don't know.

I shouldn't laugh at this. I'm sorry that I'm laughing, Peter. You have to because you can either laugh or cry. Take your pick. So only flip the coin, you're only coming up heads or tails. Because so here's, here's the situation I find myself down in here. Okay, so all the guys I knew who retired, they just got their head down. Literally not one other person, the natural resources.

is putting out this message. And I don't mind putting it out because I'm 100% categorically right on this data. Nobody's going to back me up. I challenged the premier two debate on talk radio. And the host said, and it was the host's idea. He said,

let's get you and Tim Houston on talk radio and let's debate his decisions to do this. He said, you think he'll go on? I'll say, no, he's not going on. I said, first of all, he's a narcissist. Can't bear to be wrong. He's been in hiding in the last five, six days, but no one's seen him.

And I said, secondly, you know, because I've been fishing with him, he's a moral coward. he's not showing up. He won't do it. He's not going to do it with me because a narcissist cannot handle being ridiculed. And right now, the premier in Nova Scotia, he's the butt of jokes from, I've had calls from as far away as Australia, New Zealand, Germany, the UK, US, people going, is this really, go on, man, how much, what, $28,000 and fines for walking in the woods? They said, buddy, in the rain this morning, the ticket applied, even though it was raining here this

morning. I'm serious. You can't make it up. So you guys are fighting for freedom out there in Alberta, but you better keep keep the fight going, right? Because you got to remember nobody, no leader of, while I shouldn't say that, actually, I have to give the head of the PPC there, buddy from Quebec. What's his name? Maxine Bernier. Yeah, Maxine Bernier said, this is insanity. I haven't heard a word from Pierre and I have it, Mark Carney, who thinks this is grand. This is, This is exactly what you said. This is fitting right into the plan. The master plan is how can we convince a society that if you don't follow our directions, you're going to die in fire.

Peter, I appreciate you coming on and doing this. We got to do a show where we just talk fishing and fun stuff sometimes. Listen, I say this all the time. I started the show as sports and trying to give kids. Like, how do you, how do you push through or persevere through, like, you know, working through being cut and, and finding different ways to get back and some of the moral lessons that come with playing team sports and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And, you know, going on four years later, you know, I come, I'm just like, like, this is just, it just continues. And I'm like, I can't believe, like, I understand not throwing, you know, you're in dry weather. You know, not being a moron with fire.

I think we all get that. Yeah, big time. And there's certain bands in certain areas that are justified. I'm not arguing with any of that. I'm a force firefighter. The last thing I want to see is a force fire. Yes. Our premier is going to be remembered as the Grinch who stole the summer of 2025 from the kids.

Well, the fact that there's different rules for different people already. I mean, it is wild. I mean, like it's just, I don't know how. But then again, you know, I, at the. end of COVID that COVID era. I remember thinking the same thing. It just doesn't make sense. And I remember laughing about it when, you know,

like a certain place would have certain rules being on a border city. You might, you know, where I sit. And then you walk 10 feet the other way and the rules change. You're like, oh, yeah, right. COVID can't go across the border. That's weird. And you laugh about it because it's like, how can't you see it? It's for the greater good, comrade.

Yeah. If you think 1984, like 1984, this is, this is right out of the book. This is 100%, you know, like I said, friends of mine right now are doing the same thing they didn't go. But oh, come on, man. Look how what, look how dry it is? And I said, maybe it's dry at your place. But how do you know it didn't rain five miles away? Well, I guess I never thought of that.

But still, don't you think? And I'm going, no, man. The problem is you guys aren't thinking. And I said, and I'll tell them. Buddy, I don't hold fun. I don't care who you are. If you're afraid, I'm going to tell you. I said, bud, where's your backbone go?

I mean, you're talking like, you know, you're talking like you've lost your mind and you lost your backbone. You're a scrapper. What the hell happened to you? Buddy, get up off the floor and start walking into the middle of the ring and start swinging here. I mean, this is everything that you taught your kids. Think of everything that when you take a kid fishing or hunting that they learn, Sean, any type of sports. Because you got to remember if it's a sport that you have to go through a trail to go somewhere. Let's say I had to go through a trail to go to a soccer field.

You ain't going. Nova Scotia butter, it ain't a lot out of you. And that led through the trail. Because the province won't define what short is. They won't say whether short is 10 feet or a kilometer. So it's up to you, and I guess what kind of moved the conservation officer in, or whatever kind of move, Tim Houston is, decides to crack down. Well, I hope the best for Nova Scotia.

Please keep chatting about it. Appreciate you coming on, Peter, and doing this. And we'll keep our eyes on Nova Scotia, certainly, as these things continue. me I just yeah I mean coming through COVID it being this close you know I and I remember I wish I could picture the guest who talked to me about I heard about climate lockdowns a lot but there was one in particular and I'm just drawing a blank on who that was maybe the listeners can help me either way I don't think they're saying this is the next step so here's the next step it's on you now yeah well well I mean it's not only on it's on in three of the provinces in in Canada right

Like, you know, and when- Under federal liberal control. Yeah. Right? So what's the agenda? And Tim Houston's a real liberal. And it's actually a liberal, both in Newfoundland and in, and in, I think the guy, I've got to be careful on that one. I'm not sure if the premier in Newfoundland is a liberal, but I think he is.

But I know for sure the woman in New Brunswick is a liberal. And she's bad shit crazy, straight up, right? I'm just saying. that's the one who said no you got to stay out of the woods because if you twist your ankle wreck your knee or we find you drown and you roll your boat we're not coming to save you that's why we really don't want you in the woods john i'm sorry just to finish off newfoundland john hogan is the premier of newfoundland correct yeah and what does it say come on doesn't even say that's weird

well i was on i was on a space leader of the liberal party of newfoundland and labrador yeah so basically we have three three liberals. Tim Euston is conservative. He's a cona, I guess, conservative in or Sino, conservative in name only. Right. So basically we've got three liberal premiers. And I'm not sure what the status is over there in PEI right now. They've got a bunch of their own issues. Right. They don't have the forest land that we have, but you have to realize, Sean, if they shut down the woods on some of these hay fields and stuff that are bone dry, there shouldn't be vehicles than them either. And there's nobody worse for

buttoned out cigarettes and smoker than guys golfing. I hate to do that to you golfers, but you guys need to get in the fray here, boys. By the way, if anybody wants to follow me, I would appreciate a follow at. Sure. Yeah, where can they find you? Where can they, yeah, for sure. Where can they find you, Peter. At Peter R. Mac Isaac on X.

And I had two notices today from X already. Someone said, now you're pushing spam and I got a notice. And then I was shut down in the middle of the talk. So I'm heavily censored no matter where I'm at guys. Good luck trying to find me. way if you want to know everything that i do or order a copy of that book to redneck and serve because like i say i'm not i'm not uh what's his name edgar kacey edgar kessie the guy predicted the future but go read that book if you want to know what's coming

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So I'm glad we can make some time and get you on. You bet, John. All right, and I'll keep you up to date and thanks a lot, buddy. I appreciate the airtime.