Shaun Newman Podcast - #908 - Keean Bexte

Episode Date: September 8, 2025

Keean Bexte is a Canadian journalist who founded The Counter Signal and is now the co-founder and editor-in-chief of Juno News. He ​​is under criminal investigation by the Commissioner of Canada E...lections for his reporting on former Liberal candidate Thomas Keeper during the 2025 federal election. Bexte faces potential penalties of up to $50,000 in fines and five years in prison if convicted.To watch the Full Cornerstone Forum: https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcastGet your voice heard: Text Shaun 587-217-8500Silver Gold Bull Links:Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/Email: SNP@silvergoldbull.comText Grahame: (587) 441-9100Bow Valley Credit UnionBitcoin: www.bowvalleycu.com/en/personal/investing-wealth/bitcoin-gatewayEmail: welcome@BowValleycu.com Use the code “SNP” on all ordersProphet River Links:Website: store.prophetriver.com/Email: SNP@prophetriver.comExpat Money SummitWebsite: ExpatMoneySummit.com

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Starting point is 00:07:36 shortly. All right. Let's get on to that tale of the tape. Today's guest is the co-founder and editor-in-chief of Juno News. I'm talking about Kean Bexty. So buckle up. Here we go. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. Today I'm joined by Keane Bexty. Sir, thanks for hopping on. Thanks for having me. Now, I was just saying to you before we got started, it's your first time on the show.
Starting point is 00:08:12 It's probably long overdue. But regardless, if for some reason, somebody lives under a rock and they don't know who Kean is, or maybe I shouldn't, I mean, there might be people in the States that I haven't heard of you. You know, there's probably different people from all over the place, tuning in.
Starting point is 00:08:28 But tell us a little bit about yourself before we get into, you know, the Thomas Keeper and everything going on today. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, so my name's Kean. I'm a journalist based in Calgary. I've been a journalist for almost six years now, starting my career with Rebel News. That lasted for three and a half years or so.
Starting point is 00:08:51 And then I took what I was doing independent. With Rebel, I did everything from local politics in Calgary to covering Justin Trudeau and even covering the White House. And from there, I launched the counter signal. That's the sign behind me here, which was my independent news outlet that grew really rapidly over the course of the pandemic.
Starting point is 00:09:14 We launched it right before things sort of hit the fan. And then we were one of those, the only outlets that were honestly covering what was going on during the pandemic, the lockdown insanity, the lies about, you know, we were trying to be very responsible and honest about what was, happening with vaccines and the results that people were experiencing and seeing on the ground.
Starting point is 00:09:37 We were one of the only outlets in Canada that was really doing it at the time. And then from there, I joined Juno News, which was this upstart news media company that started in 2025. It actually bought the counter signal. And from there, our viewership just went absolute exponential growth. And now we're averaging about 10. million views per month in Canada at Juno News. And we're covering everything. And we, I mean, it helped that we started during the most recent federal election. And that actually is sort of what brings me here today and the situation that I'm in with
Starting point is 00:10:17 the federal government investigating me for my work during that election saying that I shouldn't have been doing what I was doing basically by interrogating me and putting me under the microscope through this investigative process as basically a punishment for the work that we did sharing the news about Thomas Keeper, the liberal candidate for Calgary Confederation. Before we get to Thomas Keeper, I was, if you'll entertain my brain, one of the videos that I remember seeing of you in the middle of COVID was I think now you'll have to refresh my memory. I want to say RCMP officers coming to your home. Do I remember that correctly? Yeah, that's happened before. So I suppose I'm
Starting point is 00:10:58 I should be used to this at this point. But it is always shocking when you get a letter like this. And when law enforcement starts getting involved with journalists, that was a unique case because we were in this really unique situation. That was back when I was with Rebel News, where we came into possession of a letter from the Surgeon General, a military position in Canada that was given to, to officers of the Canadian Armed Forces who were participating in the Wuhan Military Games
Starting point is 00:11:35 in China in October 2019. And all of, not all of them, but the vast majority of those servicemen and women who were participating in the Wuhan Military Games came back on Canadian aircraft with the worst flu that they've ever experienced in their lives. they landed back in Canada in October and were told, don't tell anyone about this, go back to your families and tough it out. And if you recall, at the time, the prevailing opinion, a global opinion, and it was sort of to protect the honor of the Chinese Communist Party was that this was something that was
Starting point is 00:12:20 just, the COVID-19 was something that just happened to come out of a wet market, purely accidental. This was not something that had been circulating before then, and it was very important that the date of the first infection happened sometime in December 2019. So if Canadian military members were found to have been infected with COVID, which they still would have had the antibodies then, right, if they were tested and recovered in October of 2019, it would have completely unraveled this idea that it came from a wet market. And a lot of diplomatic capital was put into this premise that that was the truth at the time. Now more people sort of believe that it came from a lab leak from something funded by Anthony Fauci. And this would have basically confirmed and
Starting point is 00:13:12 invalidated the hypothesis that this came from a wet market, this document that we had from the Surgeon General of Canada's Armed Forces. And the RCMP, Justin Trudeau's RCP at the time, who are not, you know, they're not the jurisdiction. This wasn't my local police officers. This was the FBI division of the RCMP, the federal officers that came to Calgary, knocked on my door without any warning, and basically threatened me and said,
Starting point is 00:13:39 if you publish something that damages national security, you could face penalties, you could face prison time, and just tread lightly, Mr. is basically the message when they send two officers, to your door. Justin Trudeau and his friends and the Canadian deep state basically we're saying tread lightly because we have important irons in the fire. And if you as an independent journalist screw around too much, we'll come at you.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Yeah. You know, it's been interesting on this side. You know, as I closes on a thousand episodes of interviewing essentially a ton of Canadians, right to where we started to where we're at now and you just see all the things right in front of you and the timeline of when when things are going down you know like you think journalism is under attack you hear that story and you're like what are you supposed to do you're just supposed to not stare at the facts and and maybe report on them like isn't that what journalism is all about but then the heavy hand of government comes in I'm assuming that was an interesting day or two
Starting point is 00:14:51 Well, when the police came, you start to question everything. You know, maybe the person that was photographing you at dinner two nights ago through the window. Maybe that was an RCMP officer. It just really messes with your head when that kind of thing happens. Like how much have they been paying attention to what I've been doing? How threatened do they feel? How threatened? Because if the most dangerous thing on this planet is,
Starting point is 00:15:21 a government that feels threatened. There is nothing I, you want to tread more lightly around. Now of course it is our job to show the story that our viewers want to see, you know this as well as I do, that they need to see to find the facts, to analyze them, think critically about it and share it. And you don't want to be in this position where you have your hands tied by a government. And that is almost exactly the situation I've find myself in now, albeit retroactively with this Thomas Keeper thing, what it does is it sends a
Starting point is 00:15:58 chilling effect to journalists across country, not even just me, but to you who might be covering the next election and might have this story that they want to share that is coming. I'm sure you get tips in the same way I do. Or maybe it's something that another journalist covered that you want to bring them on the show. And now you're going to think twice about that because you could be threatened with five years in prison and a $50,000 fine if the, if the liberals win or any other party wins who is you know who doesn't like what you covered and they can say after the fact you shouldn't have done that during an election and we're going to come out you know well tell me walk me through this Thomas keeper you know I think as it's funny as they push out the heavy
Starting point is 00:16:41 hand on you it has the strides hand in fact instead of it going away quietly it actually is rebounding, right? Because I'm like, did I know this? Like maybe I did. Maybe I didn't. I mean, we covered the election. We had a whole bunch of things going on then. I was talking to, you know, your counterpart at Juno and Candace Malcolm and different people across Canada. I'm like, I don't know how much I knew about this. But we're going to find out today. And I think about like as they push harder, more and more just keeps coming out. Like it's the complete opposite of what they're trying to do, which is an interesting thing here in Canada. But walk us through. Thomas Keeper. Yeah, so Thomas Keeper was the liberal candidate for Calgary Confederation. He was a
Starting point is 00:17:22 long-time lawyer in a certain not lawyer. Excuse me, he was a long-time real estate agent in Calgary. And he was running for the Liberal Party in a swing riding, a writing that, and as you know, in the results of the election, this was a really close election. And it could have been won by the conservatives by a seat or two. Like that was within the realm of possibility. So it was really important that journalists across the country really scrutinized everyone. And we did. Conservatives, liberals, NDP, everyone. And this story was one that sort of fell in my lap from like six different angles. Thomas Keeper is one of those guys that everyone knows him. Everyone has a history with him. He's really deeply connected in a lot of Calvary communities. And he left a, you know, bad taste in a lot of
Starting point is 00:18:15 people's mouths for a lot of different reasons. And that led to some folks that were close to him, friends, even family. We had, I think it was eight sources that we ended up relying on for our story that accused him. And I have to be very careful here because the story that we published was we were super careful, right, to make sure that we were very accurate. We weren't saying anything wrong. We weren't saying anything that was, you know, speculation. We were reporting what primary sources had to say about Thomas Keeper and his history. And it was some pretty startling behavior that they alleged he had engaged in, ranging from allegations of verbal assault against women at parties to physical assault against his wife. This is all alleged and not
Starting point is 00:19:11 proven in court, but it is sourced from individuals very close to Thomas Keeper with primary with primary understanding of the situation. And it even gets worse than that, which I won't get into in this podcast. But people can go see the story at juno news.com. Search Thomas Keeper and you'll see it there. It's all published there still and we still stand by that reporting. And if there was anything in that reporting, even to this day that changed our understanding of the reality and the facts, we would update that. We went so far as to hand Thomas Keeper our questions in an envelope to him personally. We delivered it to his office. He was right there in front of my face.
Starting point is 00:19:54 And I said, Thomas, we have some questions for you. And of course, he fled into his office, closed the door. He actually called the police on me that day and said that I had assaulted him. I put his hands, put my hands on him, which was a lie. Luckily, I know how to engage with liberals and I record everything. And I showed it to the police. I said, look, this guy's obviously lying about what just happened. I don't think he knew that I was recording because I was using these meta sunglasses
Starting point is 00:20:19 that were not obvious that they were recording. So he thought he could get away with it, perhaps. And anyways, we handed him these questions. We did what we were obligated to do as journalists, which I'm sure you know in Canada, what we have to do is responsibly communicate with the subject of our stories, which means you go to them with the most prickly questions and the facts of what you're about to publish and say, look, we want you to refute this.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Or maybe it's true. Just give us your perspective so this can be a fulsome analysis of what happens so that when we go to our readers, we're giving them the truth. Because that's what we want. We don't want to publish anything that's wrong. but when someone's seeking to be one of the 340-od board members of a G7 country, being a member of parliament, it is important that the people who are about to elect you know everything they can about you.
Starting point is 00:21:14 And that's what our goal was, was to make sure that we were publishing a fair analysis and the truth of who Thomas Keeper was. And he refused, flat out refused to engage. He hid from us. We called him or emailed him. And then we published the story, which again, people can see at juno-news.com. But once we did that, the Liberal Party fired him within hours of the publication of the news and the headlines.
Starting point is 00:21:44 And it was, you know, he's replaced by a new candidate who ended up winning. So the liberals still had the seat. The conservatives were actually quite upset with us. We received a lot of messages from them, from people close to the conservative. campaign in that riding that said, why didn't you just wait until Thomas Keeper was locked in on the ballot? It's called the nomination selection deadline, which means that he wouldn't have been able to be removed by the Liberal Party. And they would have basically had a candidate that was, you know, that it would be harder for him to get elected. So we said, you know, unfortunately, our goal was
Starting point is 00:22:25 not to influence the election. Our goal was to share the news. And that's, you know, we, As journalists, you and I and everyone else in Canada who has this really, really important job of informing the public, our number one goal is not to strategize with political parties or get one candidate elected over another. It is just to share the truth, to share the facts and let people make their own decisions. And we ended up publishing early. And he was dropped off the ballot and a different liberal ended up being elected. And now we're in this situation, to make a long story short, where the liberals are really angry that we were so effective at what we were doing, which was, you know, exposing a lot of really, you know, not great allegations against this guy who was going to be a liberal minister if he was elected. He would have been the only conservative in Calgary.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Sorry, the only liberal in Calgary. He would have been a member of cabinet. And we, you know, we expose Thomas Keeper through that coverage and they aren't happy. And now they're using the tools of the state to punish me retroactively saying that my reporting influenced the election. And as a result, they're investigating me for contravening section 91 of the Canadian Elections Act, which carries a sentence if convicted of five years in jail and $50,000 in prison. punitive fines. Forgive me. What is section 90? Like what is it what are you being just as influencing the
Starting point is 00:24:02 election or going after a candidate if you don't mind? Yeah. So I have it right in front of me. Under the act it is illegal to make a false statement that a candidate has committed an offense under an act of parliament. Subsection 91a of the act states that no person or entity, shall with the intention of affecting the results of an election make or publish during the election period so this is this is for this is a specific restriction on journalists during an election which you know i've spoken with many folks in my industry i didn't know this was a lot i didn't realize that journalists could be uniquely muzzled during an election that honestly doesn't make a a whole lot of sense, does it? Yeah. Even, you know, the commissioner of some very senior
Starting point is 00:24:54 bureaucrats within elections Canada a few years ago actually testified to Parliament that this law is like a huge red flag and should be changed or even repealed because there's already protections whether you're in an election or not against defamation. You, you know, if what I had said was defamatory, it would have been, you know, it would have been very bad. and Thomas Keeper could have sued me for a lot of money. And he didn't. Now, that's not to say that that was his impetus for filing something with the elections commissioner. Maybe he didn't.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Maybe this was the Liberal Party that filed this. But the point is there's protections for all Canadians, you, me and everyone, against defamation. This is using specific criminal outcomes that can be wielded at the discretion of the state against journalists who they deem to have influenced the election, which is that, you know, the point of journalism is not to influence the election, it's to inform the public, but as a result, people decide who they vote for based off of the information they have. So this is in effect, you know, it's, you would see a law like this in Iran, in North Korea, in China, Afghanistan.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Maybe they wouldn't even have a law. They would just lynch the journalists and hang them up and send them to a black site. But here we have this process, which is in and of itself the punishment. We've already burned like $15,000 on a lawyer to make sure that I'm not currently in jail. And so, you know, the process is the punishment in this case. And if convicted, I mean, the punishment is the punishment. Five years in jail for being a journalist during an election is absolutely outrageous. Yeah, well, I can't agree with you more on that. When you say you don't know if it's
Starting point is 00:26:56 Thomas Keeper or the like the government, do you don't know who's filed the charges? Did I hear that correct? Yeah, yeah, which is you. How is that possible? I would think you'd be able to know who's charging you. Yeah, you should be able to know your accuser. In this case, no. I, I, I would think, Actually, this is interesting. You know, we haven't published this anywhere yet, but we also received a second letter from the Alberta Elections Commissioner saying that someone had complained about our journalism
Starting point is 00:27:36 during a by-election, and they refused to open an investigation. I'll read it to you here. We haven't published this anywhere. I'm just writing the story. This is Election Commissioner Paula Hale. She says after blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Here's the stories that you published during the Alberta by-election. I have declined to initiate an investigation into either of these complaints in the absence of reasonable grounds to believe that an offense has been committed.
Starting point is 00:28:11 And this was this letter was the first letter that I, the first correspondence that I had received from them. So I didn't retain a lawyer. I didn't have to create a defense. I was just told, hey, just a heads up, someone complained about you. And it's so outrageous, we're not even opening an investigation, which is the right way to go about it. Anyone can complain about anything. And of course there's processes.
Starting point is 00:28:33 And of course there should be protections during an election to protect the process, to make sure that everyone has faith in the whole process. And that makes sense. but persecuting and investigating journalists when the complaint is outrageous on the face of it, when they know and they're aware that this law is a violation of some of the most basic freedoms guaranteed in the charter, which, by the way, has been ruled in the Ontario Supreme Court that this law was unconstitutional and an unreasonable restriction on the right of journal on the right of free speech during an election they are still investigating me on this law that was ruled unconstitutional in on a in a provincial court
Starting point is 00:29:30 potentially and i don't know if this is their motivation but maybe they think that this is the perfect case to take to the supreme court now that justin shrewdow has appointed six of nine justices on the supreme court they can say okay well we'll just appeal it to the supreme court And we will codify in law that independent journalists during an election can be prosecuted and put in jail for five years if they influence the election. Man, I just feel like message sent, you know, like sitting on this side and hearing it, I'm like, you know, where does this go? Like if this goes through, right, you see Keenbecksey in prison or paying $50,000 or anywhere in between there, you think of how many independent journalists sitting in Canada right now are going, oh, man, what do I, what do I do with this information that's been put before me?
Starting point is 00:30:28 Right? Like, it just seems like there's a big old message being sent to the entire journalist world here in Canada right now. This wasn't a message just to me. This isn't a process that just I have to go through. It is going to send a chilling effect to every single independent journalists you watch, whether you're watching the Sean Newman podcast or Rebel News or the Western Standard or Juno News or the counter signal.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Even dissident journalists in the Globe and Mail who oftentimes publish things that expose electoral and proprieties of liberals from time to time, they are all going to think twice about the fact that they will be held as criminals in the eyes of the law. They won't be able to travel to the United States. They will be incarcerated in a federal prison alongside murderers and rapists. It's one of those things that this letter that I received in the mail fundamentally alters my perception of the country I live in.
Starting point is 00:31:40 I grew up in a country that I thought was free. I became a journalist in a country that I thought was free. You know, being a journalist comes with risks. You make enemies for life out of some fairly powerful people. I can't go, I can't step foot in China anymore without likely being detained. So I'm used to that. But you never think that in Canada, you know, if I was a journalist in China, I would have gone into the industry with eyes wide open,
Starting point is 00:32:11 and understanding the situation I found myself in. And I would have known the risks. But now, man, when I was 22 starting out here, knowing now that I'd be faced six years on in my career, that I could be in prison this time next year, I don't know if I would have done it. That's a wild statement, honestly, when you think about it. You know, like, I'm just sitting here on this side,
Starting point is 00:32:39 and I'm like, man, what are some of the comments? conversations we've had over the last two weeks, folks. You got a journalist being, and I shouldn't laugh. I just, reality is stranger than fiction at this point, you know. You got you being investigated. You got Jeff Evely getting fined $28,000 for taking a walk. You know, you got James Botter seeking asylum in the States. I'm just, I'm spacing on all the other conversations I've had in the last two weeks,
Starting point is 00:33:07 but it just keeps going on and on and on. and at some point you wait for common sense to maybe rear its beautiful head and be like wait a second none of this makes sense and yet the story just keeps going on and for a journalist to be like you know finding this is where it's leading i don't know if i would have started in this that's to me that's a that's a tough statement you know for for people trying to get the the news and the facts and what's actually happening in the power structures of canada yeah it's um it is certainly a wake-up call and the real issue is that it's it's not even about the case I now find myself in the situation I find myself in. It's the situation that any journalist could find themselves in in the next
Starting point is 00:33:55 election. And this is how regimes hold on to power by instilling fear that if you step out of line, you could be punished pretty severely. It's like the like people clapping for a tyrant and they're all concerned they don't want to be a laugh one to stop. And if you ever speak out, if you ever complain, if you ever publish something that these like really obscure powers and bureaucrats might be upset by, you are going to pay a very hefty personal fine. Well, I mean, the counter signal didn't get its name from being vanilla. You know, You've been very much in on some of the biggest stories that Canadians have witnessed over the past in your time, six years. Certainly in the last couple of years, like, you know, Counter Signals been up there with a lot of the independence of talking about some of the wildest things happening in this country.
Starting point is 00:34:56 And we don't have to wait long. I'm sure here in a day or two, there will be another one. You know, I was just thinking the other one, I had John Carpe on like two weeks ago. Now he's been, you know, disbarred from Alberta. and you're just like, it just goes on and on and on. Before I let you out of here, any final thoughts? I appreciate you giving me some time today, but any final thoughts for the audience before I let you out?
Starting point is 00:35:16 Yeah, so the whole letter that was published, that was sent to me by Canada's election commissioner, detailing the investigation is at defend juno.com. Now, it costs us, like I think we're already $15,000 in the tank of this lawyer, but we're not fundraising for this. Like people can donate on our website, and if they do, I appreciate it. Because it is we don't take government grant money to do our job, and that's sort of why the government hates us.
Starting point is 00:35:48 But our main goal is to raise an army of concerned Canadians who are interested in hearing the truth and getting them to subscribe. And they can do that at defend juno.com. If they get a subscription, that is the most powerful way to show that they're standing beside us and standing up against tyrants in the liberal apparatchik that is governing this country and silencing dissident journalists. It helps us know that they have our back and we can keep having theirs when we're publishing the news that they need to hear.
Starting point is 00:36:22 I appreciate you hopping on and doing this. I'll put the link in the show notes as well for people if they want to click on it. You know, from just, you know, I didn't enter into this to be in this realm. I entered in to be somewhere else. Yet here I find myself and as they come for you, you just go at some point, folks, they come for all of us, right? Like, I mean, it's just happening more and more.
Starting point is 00:36:47 So I appreciate you hopping on. But if we're going to continue to have stories like this on the Sean Newman podcast and I'm going to stay in Canada, I'm like, this needs to get defeated. Like this can't happen. I mean, Candace was on our live election coverage. And, you know, that was, that was the number one show we did in 2024, uh, 2020, 2020, 25, forgive me. And, uh, it stands, you know, we had a 88,000 people watching us
Starting point is 00:37:16 live and over a half million in the first, I think it was 24 hours or less, tune into that, you know, like, it's just there's a hunger for real journalism in Canada. And it is trying to be silenced right now. And, uh, appreciate you, you hopping on and sharing some of the stories so people know. My pleasure. I hope to come back soon and an early congratulations on a thousand episodes. Thank you.

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