Shaun Newman Podcast - #916 - Tyler Todt
Episode Date: September 18, 2025Tyler Todt is a fitness and health coach, motivational speaker, and content creator focused on personal development, habits, and family life. He describes himself as a Christ follower, husband, and &q...uot;#1 dad" (self-proclaimed), emphasizing inspiration for a stronger, healthier, and happier future. To watch the Full Cornerstone Forum: https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcastGet your voice heard: Text Shaun 587-217-8500Silver Gold Bull Links:Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/Email: SNP@silvergoldbull.comText Grahame: (587) 441-9100Bow Valley Credit UnionBitcoin: www.bowvalleycu.com/en/personal/investing-wealth/bitcoin-gatewayEmail: welcome@BowValleycu.com Use the code “SNP” on all ordersProphet River Links:Website: store.prophetriver.com/Email: SNP@prophetriver.comExpat Money SummitWebsite: ExpatMoneySummit.com
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Today's guest is a fitness and health coach, motivational speaker and content creator,
focused on personal development, habits, and family life.
I'm talking about Tyler Toe.
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Here we go.
Well, welcome to the Sean Newman podcast today.
I'm joined by Tyler Toe.
Sir, thanks for doing this.
Oh, Sean, it's an honor, man.
We've been trying to connect for a few weeks, busy schedules, but I'm super grateful to be here, man.
Here's the wild thing.
I first reached out to you because I was curious about this.
I was like, I first, when did I first reach out to Tyler?
August 4th, 2023.
That's when I first started messaging.
Yeah, get out of here, man.
Dead serious.
You're, so, you know, and I put in, you know, and then of course, like my schedule,
your schedule, nothing will work out.
And I go like three months and then something would come back up and I'd be thinking
and I'd see it.
I'm like, I should reach out to this guy again.
So it's been, it's been two years in the making.
Well, dude, I appreciate the persistence and then, you know,
when there's a lot of friction, there's some good
things that are about to happen. I always feel like that. I'm going to go back to my original thought
with you. I admired your openness on your journey of where you started, of where you began. I'm
sure in that two-year span, there's been more and more and more. Certainly we come on the heels of
Charlie Kirk and everything going on there. But with you, I guess I was, you know, I saw a lot of
positivity coming in a world that we focus so much on the negative. And I, Tyler, I guess I was just
curious, you know, of you telling us a bit about your story and your journey and sharing that
with the audience. Yeah, I appreciate that, Sean. Yeah, so really this is a choice. If you
would have asked me and known me 10, 12, 15 years ago, no one would have described me as a positive
guy. I dropped out of college to play professional poker at like 19. It was really fun and I traveled
the world doing that for a few years. Met a gal got married pretty early. That didn't work out.
And then when we separate ways, I just kind of hit a really low point in my life where,
okay, now I'm a college drop out. I'm 27. I'm 28. I don't have a lot going for me. I have a lot of
money that I've made and stored up, but I don't know what to do with it. I just kind of felt lost and
aimless. And to be honest, I spent the next year or two just sort of searching for some kind of
meaning in life. It can't just be that I'm trying to accumulate a higher number in my bank account.
That can't be the purpose. And then I just die one day, right? So I'm like, there's got to be something.
And so I was pretty depressed, to be honest.
At this time, I weighed, I think, 149 pounds.
I never went to the gym.
I ate like crap.
I didn't sleep very well.
Just kind of doing things kind of in a not great way.
And so the first thing that changed me is I just met a great buddy at a bar named Colby.
And he was there watching a game with some buddies.
And I was watching a game with some buddies.
And I'm a pretty friendly guy.
And I just, the guy was built like a Greek god.
And I just asked him like, holy cow, bro.
Like, what do you do?
And he was just a super nice guy.
And we struck up a great guy.
friendship and he said you know what tie uh if you really want to know you know that this can change your
life like meet me at the gym tomorrow at 5 a m and so i took him up on that it was like 11 30 at night and
i was a few beers deep but i just said okay man like whatever we'll we'll do it and so i met him at
5 a m it was him and three or four other friends and i just started working out with these guys
five six days a week and i didn't know it at the time but this is one of the best trainers in the city
of chicago like chicago bears players paid him hundreds of dollars and hours to train with him and and this guy
I described Colby and I've reached back to him so many times with thanks, he started to make me
see life in a different way. Like he would show up to the gym at 5 a.m. and high five a.m. and high
five the staff and thank them for coming in and setting everything up and making such a great
environment for us. And like he'd high five the janitor and thank them for like, man,
cleaning up the bathrooms and just making it a great place for us. And then we'd go to lunch and
he would just maybe get bad service, but he'd thank the people there. And he's like, oh, I try and
make their debt. And it was this new sort of radical way of thinking about life for me. And I just
saw this guy is so happy all the time. He was joyful. Maybe bad things happened to him, but he had
this joy about him. And I just told him one day, I want to be like this, man. And so I just, you know,
I got really into fitness, got really into health. I got certified as a trainer a year later.
I went from 149 pounds, like 165 pounds in the next 18 months, just lifting weights for the first time
and getting healthy. And that was the genesis of what started to really turn.
my life around. And there was one more key figure in there, a preacher by the name of Eddie Lohen.
Once I started to get a little healthy, I just reached out to him and said, hey, man, I grew up in church,
but I kind of, I'm not sure I believe it or I'm not sure what to think about this stuff.
And he just offered to meet me for a cup of coffee and challenged me with a bunch of questions and
said, you're a really smart guy. I'm not going to tell you what to think, but study it.
Just see what you think is more logical. And if we're here by accident, none of this matters.
Or there's a creator. And there's a bigger purpose for your life.
and the reason we're here.
And so little by little, I started to go that route too.
And I'd say the combination of those two things,
starting with my health and taking control of not only what I put into my body,
but the fact that I moved it every day and exercised.
I wanted to be more positive and around people like that instead of just going to bars and
nightclubs.
And then I started to get this element of faith on the other side of that too.
So that was a huge tipping point for me and where everything sort of started to change.
Yeah, well, I can attest to.
the faith portion that's that's um on the podcast is not what i seeked out you know if you go back
to the very beginning i wouldn't say that's what i was searching out i was searching out how the
world worked and that's a large question and it took me a long time to even start to come to
terms that that's what i was trying to do and then as you try and understand and put the puzzle pieces
together you get a whole bunch of things that you did not plan on and so you go back to your
conversation with Kobe 1130 at night at a bar and and showing up and doing one little act and how
that's changed your life. I think it's a pretty healthy message for anyone sitting listening to this
today. It's like you you want to change tomorrow. It starts pretty simple. I mean, it doesn't have
to be this giant, giant shift. It could be something very, very simple that can lead to really great
things. I think that's what I've learned over this like seven, eight year self-improvement journey now too
is that, man, like, I used to think that people that were, you know, maybe had the body that I admired,
they knew something I didn't, or they took steroids, or they had these cheat codes that I didn't
or people that were successful at business and lived life on their terms and kind of created their own
schedule. They just knew things that I didn't or they had these special powers that I didn't.
And I am as average of a dude as you can get, man. I grew up in a town of 700. Like, there's nothing
special about me at all. Outside of just one day, I got on my knees and said, like, this is not going to be
my story anymore. And I don't know what faith meant to me back then, but I'm like, I'm going to
keep exploring it and go this direction. And I'm going to cut out some of these other bad things in my
life that I know don't make me feel good. And I'm just going to go all in on really four or five main
things in my life and focus on those things and never look back. And again, nothing special about me.
But man, now, you know, I sit here at 41 and I've been married 11 years to just an absolutely amazing.
and she's like an angel on earth.
I never would have got her had I not been working out and more positive
because she's one of the most positive people on the planet.
We have three amazing kids and we're financially free and a lot of great things.
And again, I'm no one special.
It just started with those small decisions, like you said.
When you say you cut out the bad, I'm curious.
What did you cut out?
Oh, man.
So there's a lot.
As a professional poker player, man, I was in kind of a degenerate lifestyle, I would say, for a while.
nightclubs and drinking three, four, five times a week.
And I'm not just like, oh, let's have a beer with a buddy, but like, let's get blackout
until 4 a.m. kind of thing, you know, let's go chase women kind of thing.
And so that was a pretty easy one to say, man, am I happier when I'm waking up feeling
like death because I'm hung over or when I get up early and go to the gym and take walks
and like hang around these certain types of people?
Like, I just had to ask myself that question, you know?
And so cutting that out was a big step.
I went from drinking four or five days a week to maybe now four or five times a year.
Something like that.
That was a big one.
A huge one for me, and this is something a lot of guys don't talk about, but pornography,
like casual pornography and viewing of that.
I feel like it's very demonic.
It's very evil.
It makes you see women in a different light that, you know, like my wife is the only person
that should have that for me and the only person I should have that for.
I should never be viewing other women in that way.
So that was a big one to give up.
Mainstream media news was a huge one.
Like, when I say I'm only really good at four or five things, man, I don't know what Trump's doing today.
I don't really care.
I'm really focused on my mission and the calling God has for my life.
And I block out a lot of that noise.
If the story's big enough, it'll find you.
I don't feel any less informed.
But I don't spend any of my time, honestly, seeking out news anymore.
I don't feel like it's objective.
I feel like it's meant to program you and make you give you certain sort of biases.
and so I gave up that.
There's been a hundred.
I mean, a lot of friends, I hate to say this,
but as you grow through life,
a lot of those bar buddies,
turns out they were just drinking buddies.
They weren't real friends because when I stopped going to the bars
and I invited them to on walks or pickleball or tennis or hikes or frisbee,
some of them came and that's awesome,
but some of them didn't.
And that's okay too.
But I had to lose some of those people,
I think, in my past too.
You know, the things you listed off,
alcohol, pornography, mainstream news,
And then, I mean, Friends is kind of a, you know, you gave them the choice.
Hey, come, we're going to go do something healthy, per se.
And some chose some didn't.
But, you know, you point back to some, it's kind of like the ease of life in North America, at least, right?
I can't sit here and act like I know how the rest of the world works.
But, you know, you think pornography, as a kid, we always laugh because, you know, you had the series catalog, right?
The old bra section was a real, a real sucker for young years.
You wait an old month, man, as an 11-year-old boy for that Sears catalog.
And I mean, other than that, like, how did you find pornography?
You know, there was the gas stations that had the section of magazines.
And I mean, I'm sure I'm missing some, you know, but then comes along the internet.
And, okay, that's okay, fair.
But then comes along the cell phone.
And now it's like, you can have.
have porn at any point in time in your life.
Any time of day you want it, you just make one click and it's sitting there.
And then you think like alcohol, I mean, in COVID or during the lockdowns here where I am,
what were the things that didn't get shut down?
Was, you know, in Canada, weeds legalize.
So weed stores, there's any street corner you want, pretty much drugs are sitting there.
Alcohol never shuts down.
And so, you know, and then of course, mainstream news makes complete sense to me.
It seems like it's easy.
And yet on this side, the alcohol thing.
So this year I haven't been drinking.
First time I've ever, I did, I've done a month, maybe 45 days without it.
But I've been thinking about this for like, it's going on like seven years of like, I think I want to do this.
And it took a lot of like getting over my own thought processes on it, almost my own.
putting my own little hurdle.
And now, like, what is it?
It's September.
What's that?
Nine plus months in?
Like, I'm actually kind of shocked at how, you know, don't get me wrong.
There's a couple times hockey player on this side.
You're sitting in the dressing room.
Everybody's having a beer.
You're like, oh, you know, or you're sitting around the camp for, oh.
But overall, it's been a lot, a heck of a lot easier than I thought it was going to be.
I love that, man.
And a question I constantly ask myself, I actually do a monthly audit of my own life every
And the question I ask at the very end of that is, are my habits serving me or am I serving them?
And that's where I landed on alcohol, where I was like, man, there's so many nights where I like,
I like the idea of having one or two drinks with a buddy, but man, it turns into 10.
And then I feel like crap the next day.
And then because I feel like crap, I don't sleep well, because I don't sleep while, I eat that.
And it just causes this cascading cycle.
And so I just actually wrote down rules for myself with alcohol, where I didn't necessarily
want to go to zero.
because I'm like, to be honest, when my wife and I go on vacation and we together and we don't have kids,
I really do enjoy having a couple glasses of whiskey with her while she has a couple glasses of wine.
And it's super fun and we get super flirty.
And I suck at dancing, but I'll go out and dance when I have a couple of whiskies.
And so I'm like, I feel like I got to a point in life where alcohol serves me.
I never, I drink it maybe five, six times a year, maybe.
But every time I do, I actually write out how many drinks I'll have before I go.
I put a water in between it.
I refuse to ever drink when my wife's not present.
And so I just have these rules around it where it serves me.
And so maybe for you, it's like, hey, just absence, my life is way better.
And that's the best.
But I think for some guys out there that might be listening or girls, like, yeah, it's kind of scary to think I'll never have another drink again.
And it's like, well, maybe just reframe that and think, how can it serve you?
And that's a question I always love to ask myself or clients, people I'm coaching, things like that.
Well, a friend and we were talking the other day, this is probably actually three weeks ago.
He was saying, you know, I was wrestling with not drinking ever again because like you, when you bring up your wife, it's one of the things that really attracted me to some of your posts, right, is I look for men that are trying to be healthy in their lifestyle.
But even more so than that, I think a healthy lifestyle is like a healthy relationship with your spouse.
And I'm not saying they're not out there.
There are, but when I scroll social media, I just don't see it all the time.
And so your posts, I'm like, oh, that's, I like that.
I really like that.
And that's why I kept reaching out, because I'd forget about it, right?
I do five shows a week and I get rolling along.
And then a post would come up.
And then I'm like, that's a Tyler again.
And then I go to message you.
I'm like, well, yeah, I messaged them already.
Okay, let's follow back up on it.
And so that's why when you go, oh, I love your persistence.
Well, it's your consistent posting online and me following you.
and it's slowly coming through the noise and seeing how healthy it is,
that really stuck out to me.
And when you go to the drinking thing,
I like that it's like,
well,
I only drink when my wife's around.
Like,
that makes complete sense to me.
It makes,
it makes a ton of sense.
And I go back to the conversation I was having with a friend of both three,
four weeks ago.
And he was,
I was just,
I don't know if I was struggling or maybe I was just having one of those weak moments
where you're going to whine.
And he's like,
well,
how much better is life been not drinking?
And I'm like,
I don't even know.
if I can put a, like a 10x on it.
It's been so much better.
And he's like, well, why?
I'm like, well, any morning I want to get up, I get up.
And when I got things to do, I get them done.
And I just don't have the Friday night where you go in for, I'm going to have one.
And then you're having a good time and I know how it goes.
And all of a sudden you've had 10.
And like, I saw that big a deal.
But then that bleeds into, is it a day?
Is it two days?
Is it a tough conversation with your spouse or your kids?
Because I know how I get after I haven't slept well.
and I'm a bit grumpy and I'm groggy and all the things.
And he's like, oh, it sounds like your life is like way better.
Why would you ever go back?
I'm like, it's a good point.
You know, I just, maybe I'm having a whining moment, you know?
I think we all have those, though, too.
And that's why I think it's good to have people in your life like your buddy, it sounds like.
And that's why I think as you sort of grow as a person, it's okay that some friends come in for a season.
And then kind of as you keep growing as a person, I think you attract other people around you that are like that.
Like, if I had to make a guess, I'd say you might.
might maybe when you were partying in your party phase or drinking a lot all the time you,
maybe you didn't have buddies around you that would have said something to you like that.
But that's a great friend that can just kind of help you, hey, man, take a breath.
Sean, just let me ask you a question.
And then you can kind of get from that lizard brain into your conscious logical brain and think,
yeah, like my life is good.
It is better.
It has tenant, you know.
So I think it's great to surround yourself with people like that.
And to your point on even seeing my posts and things, that's why I'm so grateful for social media now.
Because man, like, Sean, the odds of me and you ever getting to chat.
Zero.
30 years ago were zero, right?
Like, I was going to be friends with who I worked with and some of my neighbors.
And that was it.
Like, you know, maybe on a vacation, you make a cool buddy and you try and call each other
once a year.
It's just that that's it, man.
And now I get to connect with people like you who, man, I want to be better.
I'm working at these things.
And I've built a whole network now of just men in my life where I guarantee you if I
show up and I have a belly hanging out.
and they see that I've been drinking, I'll have men that will tell me some very hard truths
about you're not being the husband and the father and the Christ follower and the guy that
we know you're created to be.
Like, I'll have some guys say that to me.
And I think that's an amazing thing about online.
And to even take that a step further, you know, you kind of mentioned our phone and
pornography is a click away.
So is the Bible app, you know.
And like, I read my Bible every day on my phone.
And I use social media.
again, it serves me.
I seek out positive.
I put positive things out.
Those things come back.
And so I think you go back to just life is really like a mirror.
And what you're putting out is what's going to come back to you eventually.
And so, you know, if somebody, well, social media is so toxic, I would always challenge
that narrative.
You're looking for toxic and you're putting out toxic.
You're clicking on links and they're giving you more of those things of people fighting or
politicians yelling or that's what they're showing you is what you're clicking.
So if you seek out, people,
that are, man, just trying to help you live a better life and they're really positive and
they're saying positive things that can help your life, you're going to get more of that too.
And so I think people need to take ownership around those things because, man, it is a huge gift.
We've never lived in all of human civilization, it's never been like this where I have access to the
smartest people in the world through Twitter. I can literally ask them a question and they'll respond
most of the time. Like, that's insane. You know, like that we can just do that and we can form
communities with people. I hosted a conference here in Vegas two, three weeks ago,
were 60 people from all over the world. We had a New York Times bestseller come. We had a,
you know, one of a lady followed by 11 million people really high up in the fitness and
marriage space come and present and just people from all over that wanted the same things.
And again, that wasn't possible until 10, 12, 15 years ago. You host a conference. Walk me through
this. As a man who hosts a conference and I slowly
came across that by following other high profile people in in the podcast world I guess you know
I started by doing events like once every three months and I burn myself out of it and I actually
took yeah I took I took like eight months off I was like I actually don't know what I'm trying to do
you know that what am I trying to do and then and then I did my first conference and I still didn't
know what I was trying to do I just felt like really compelled that I needed to do this and it
dawned on me after the last Cornerstone Forum this past May folks that I'm like,
oh my goodness, I'm bringing it together my community and bringing people that have really
impacted my life and putting them on stage and allowing them to interact with the people
who listen to the show and others, I might add. I'm always open to having whoever wants to
come to it. Please feel free to come because it's that type of environment. But with you
hosting a conference? I'm curious, you know, is it an annual thing? And then what is the goal of what
you're trying to do, Tyler? Yeah. So, I mean, this is just a Holy Spirit God thing, to be honest.
So I didn't even set out to start a social media brand or any. I was a bank manager and had pretty,
you know, like fine doing it. And then I just started, I felt this tug from the Lord five years ago to
just start sharing your life. That was the voice I heard. Share your life, man. You've had a pretty
interesting story. I've brought you out of some really hard pits to share that with people.
I mean, after like four months of tweeting every day, so I promised myself and God six months,
I'll tweet every day. I won't miss a day. And I'll engage and I had some same rules I said around
alcohol. I said around that. Five months in, I believe I had 460 followers. I'd made exactly
$0 and I'm like, what a waste of time. You know, the five months and two weeks, I have a couple
tweets go absolutely viral. And now I've got thousands and thousands of followers. And now people are
seeing interested in what I have to say every day and things like that. And then it gets pretty fun.
And then if you fast forward a few months later, a doctor and a couple other guys just message me and said,
will you throw a retreat, a live event? We love your stuff. We'd love to come meet you in person.
Just put this together. I didn't know what that meant. I'm still a bank manager, but I'm like,
all right, I'll figure it out. So I just get a giant Airbnb. I start posting online.
these guys come. I think we had eight guys come. We worked out together. We took some hikes together.
We prayed together. We did breath work together. We talked about what it is to be a great man and a
great father and a great leader and all these things, right? We shared ideas. I equate it to like,
good old, like if you go back in time, man, a grandfather sitting around a campfire, sharing wisdom.
And that's what that felt like, right? We had a couple nights where we sat around a campfire
and everybody shared their wisdom. We're all taking notes. We're all getting better. Iron,
iron in those moments. And so then it clicked for me, I need to bring the online community to the
real world. And so I started hosting retreats like you every few months. I got burned out really quick,
man. I think I hosted six or seven of them. And dude, they take a lot out of you, man. Between the
planning, then obviously you've got to be on and high energy for 14 hours a day for three straight
days. And so I would come back from these pretty burned out. And so then I took a little time off
And I thought, instead of just 10 person retreats, can we throw a big conference in an event?
And so this was year one.
And it wasn't like a normal conference where you'd come and sit and listen to speakers.
Like I had a morning hike at sunrise, 5 a.m.
I led that.
Then we went and all took ice baths.
So most of the people had never done an ice bath.
But this is about getting uncomfortable and pushing yourself.
I named the conference into the arena.
Like get off the sidelines of life and get into the arena, get into the fight, right?
And so we all did ice baths.
Everybody's cheering and did 50 people around you celebrating when you get in the ice.
It was like the vibes were amazing.
After that, dude, we had like push-up contests.
And then I had instructors that were leading through yoga and things like that.
So this is all outdoors.
And then everybody went home and took a shower and came back and we had a couple hours of speakers.
And then we catered dinner and did all kinds of stuff like that.
But my whole goal with this and it will be an annual thing is to keep growing it year over year and really connect that online community to an in-per-react.
community because there's nothing that beats it man like we can chat every day online
but bro when I hug you and you hug me and we go do a workout together and we talk about our families
and now you show me pictures of your kids and I feel that passion behind you and you feel mine like
we're linked for life at that point I feel like you know and so that's what I'm really trying to
do at this point more than anything is just build that community that wants to get together
couple three times a year and just share life and get better and just say man at faith that
fitness that family at finances these are the things we all want to get better at so let's just
come and get better and share what we're learning you sold me when's your net when's your when's your
conference and where is it always the next one in Arizona it'll be about a year from now so we're
looking uh mid mid-september I'll be announcing it in probably about two months we're finalizing
a place right now and then I want to get a couple of the key speakers
like the big names before we really announce it yet sure you know i know the drill i know the drill
believe me i'll be two months out but i promise you i'll i'll message you man yeah i'm within i'm
within a week i know people are just are annoyed with me because you know i so i finished the
the cornerstone forum year two in calgary alberta and i'd had the lead-up to it where i was
i'm sure you you'll you'll um you can uh feel the pain i
was just like, I don't know if I want to do this yet.
This was so much work.
And I was having one of those weak moments.
I had a guest in the studio.
I'm talking to him.
And he's like, you talk about you love this.
You know you do.
And it was funny.
I'm not drinking at the Cornerstone Forum.
I woke up the next morning after having the longest, greatest day.
And it was like 6 a.m.
And my brain was already like, so we're going to call this event back.
And I'm like, yeah, I should probably send an email.
And I'm sitting there.
And I'm sending an email Sunday morning after I just worked your
absolute bag off to get it done and everything else. And now I sit here in September and I know
there are people going, when is it? It's March 27th, 28th, folks. There's no doubt in my mind.
It's just a question of the venue. And that has been taking everything out of me. So I know
all about the lead up and everything else of announcing speakers. And it just sounds really cool
what you're building. I guess is what I'm saying on this side. From one builder to another,
what I hear of what you're trying to do and and some of the experience you're trying to provide.
Like that's super cool.
Like I once again, it's probably why for two years I've been slowly like you keep coming up.
I'm like, I should just have this guy on.
Why haven't I done that yet?
And you know, and it's just been timing.
It's all about timing.
And I, you know, you quote some different scripture and point back to the Bible.
And I, you know, God has his timing on everything.
And I certainly think there's, there's,
you know, there's a reason why this is happening right now.
And, you know, and I don't know, I can't begin to understand why that is, right?
I think your message would have been great two years ago.
But here we sit in 2025 and certainly my brain went, isn't this?
You know, because we booked this how many months ago.
And I go, you know, everything with Charlie Kirk.
Yeah.
And how sad I've been on this side as a man who never met him, never heard him speak in person.
Certainly had seen him online.
But, you know, like, I'm like, we just need to have some things to bring some people up.
And I guess, you know, my long winded response is, you know, it just feels like the perfect time to have somebody on to talk about, you know, there's good out there in the world.
And you need to search it out as much as you search out the bad, right, and trying to understand things.
Yeah, man, it's been a very emotional week, man, probably.
And if I'm, I would guess, Sean, you felt the same as me.
I was on Twitter live and saw the actual thing.
And I wish I could take that Batman.
I mean, nobody should see that.
You know, just horrific.
And, you know, my first prayer is if I'm very open and honest,
we're like, God, like, I want vengeance.
You know, like this is this evil.
It's so demonic.
And then I see people celebrating it.
And I see, and it's just that broke a part of me.
Because I think I always kind of assumed,
man, there's like three or four percent that are just absolutely insane on the left.
And there's three or four percent.
percent they're absolutely insane on the right but let's be like most of us are like we want the same
stuff man we we want families and homes and lower tax you know we kind of all want similar just good
lives and and i don't know there there was people that i never in a million years would have thought
would openly celebrate the assassination of a husband and a father i mean the guy's a little
his five-year-old ran towards him when she saw her dad got shot and said daddy like i mean
his wife is now having to tell his daughters like daddy's on a special mission with with jesus you know he's
not coming home like i just i don't know how anyone can can celebrate that and then to see that the absolute
evil in the media now that's just making i mean a lady got fired at one of the papers for just
literally making up a quote that he's he never said black female pilots shouldn't fly planes like
she just just literally made it up out of note she got fired they're suing the paper but like
people are just coming out of the woodwork to defame this guy. And the scary part to me,
and I tweeted this the other day is like, there's a hundred thousand hours of this guy.
Anybody can just go out there and watch him. I've watched many hours of it a lot in the last
week. I don't even agree, of course not with everything he says. Nobody's, I don't agree with my
wife on everything she says or my dad or like, you know, if that's the expectation, like,
then nobody's going to follow anybody, right? But this is a really good man. And his main message, to
be honest is like have a mission bigger than yourself love the Lord marry one woman don't be
promiscuous have children be a great dad be there for them and it's like if people really hate that
message so much it it sort of terrified me a little bit um that that I was just seeing this hate around
this guy and for a couple days man I was pretty lost I didn't sleep the first two nights like I
literally just kept waking up and seeing that image and I couldn't and then dude I went to the gym
about 48 hours after it happened and I just put on a bunch of praise music and I just felt this tug
about halfway through man I just drove to my church and I sat in the parking lot and I didn't know what I was
doing our church is 10 minutes from our house and then I just saw a couple people walking up and I got out
of my car and I went to him and I said I just need to pray with somebody we guys just pray with me
and dude after 10 minutes they were crying I was crying we were all hugging and I felt like God
just sort of restored a piece of my soul then. And I've said since, man, I feel like my faith before that
was at about a 90 out of 100. And now it's at 190 out of 100. Like I am just so all in to be one of the
warriors for Christ and to continue his mission and to keep preaching this positive message of like,
we need great dads. We need great Christ followers. I think we tried this experiment man in the West
without God and it doesn't work.
It just doesn't work.
And you don't have to agree with everything
and I don't have to agree with everything of you,
but tolerance goes both ways
and you're going to be tolerant of what we believe to.
And I think people have kind of just had enough
of this like, wow, we're just going to give an inch,
give an inch, give an inch, give an inch, give an inch,
and then before we know it, there's 787 genders,
women are dominating male sports.
People are getting assassinated on both sides
and there's so much division and hate.
And it's like, how do we get here?
And when I look at it, it's like, well, we lost our roots.
We lost our guiding principles, which is the Ten Commandments and the Bible and faith.
And just the decency of being an honorable man, you know, and wanting to put good things out into the world.
And the one really good thing I think of all of this, man, is I am seeing a revival unlike any other.
I mean, at my church, we baptized more youth last Sunday than I've ever seen online.
and this is probably just because of my brand and my positivity.
I had 33 people.
I went back and counted because my mom asked me the other day.
33 people say I haven't been to church in decades or read my Bible in decades,
and I started this week.
I'm all in.
And to me, this isn't a political thing at all.
This is a heart thing and a soul thing and a mind thing.
And I think if not now, when?
If strong men aren't going to stand up now and say, no, we believe in this.
We're unashamed of it.
And our nation and our society is going this way.
We're going to, by whatever, I'm protecting my children from this stuff,
like if we see evil is out there so clearly,
then the only logical conclusion is that there's also good.
And like, for me, it was like, I just saw demons this week.
Literal demons celebrating a guy's death.
And if there are demons, then it gives me hope that there's also angels.
And there's also a lot of good.
And so for 48 hours, man, I was pretty,
tore up. I was pretty broken. And like you, I'd never met him. I'd seen his stuff online,
but I felt like I lost a brother. That's how it felt to me. And it still does. And I've told a lot
of the people in my men's group that I lead, man, we had a whole discussion around this. And we
just said, this is, this has got to be the point that any piece of lukewarm that you were
has to be gone. It has to. Like, lines are being drawn and you are either all in for Jesus and
the Lord and you're going this direction or you're not and you're a part of that other thing whatever
that is and so you know I have a lot of faith and hope that there's going to be a revival unlike
anything we've ever seen because of this I saw the other day where he had 9,000 chapters of and now
there's 32,000 applications and I think it's going to spread like wildfire and again I don't even I'm
not a political guy if you were to ask me like I don't necessarily love Donald Trump very much to
be honest, I think he's pretty divisive. He does some good things and some bad things. I think
it's ridiculous. He's Hitler. He's the best thing ever. Like most people fall in the middle and he does
some good things and some bad things. I don't really like his leadership style, to be honest. I think he's
pretty divisive. And so I don't look at this as a political thing. I look at this as a heart and a
spiritual thing. And I do really feel like, man, I don't know if you feel it up north, but I feel it here
in the States where there's just like a revival, you know, just something like we haven't seen in our
nation in a long time. And so I'm very hopeful for that. Well, I'd, I'd written about it on substack.
So if anyone listening wants to go see what I wrote, you'd just go to the substack and you can see it.
But I showed two things. One was, I got sent to CS Lewis quote. And it was pain and cysts
upon being attended to. God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks in our conscience,
but shouts in our pain. And it is his megaphone to rouse a deaf world. When I'm
I read that, you know, I've got a ton of time for C.S. Lewis.
Yeah. And I still think about that. I'm like, oh, you know, so when you talk about a revival,
I think seeing a man who, you know, I think most people, do you got to agree with everything?
No. I mean, like, this show, I always go like, you don't have to agree with everything a guest says.
Actually, you probably shouldn't. You should probably find weird. Yeah, that'd be weird, right?
I think that's probably a cult somewhere, right? Right. And so I, I,
I got this lovely audience that are smarter than me, and they send things that just,
now I've got to sit and stew on that.
And C.S. Lewis, I've read a ton of C.S. Lewis since, you know, I found Jesus.
And certainly that has illuminated a lot of different things, you know, as much the Bible, certainly.
But C.S. Lewis has been an interesting character of the past that has illuminated a lot.
And it's, of course, a quote that gets sent to me.
Then I'm like, oh, man, I've got a certain thing on that.
The other one was D.B. Cooper on Twitter.
He had said, I think I figured it out.
The assassination is hitting deeper than normal and I didn't know why.
I'm not one who emotionally attaches to celebrities or public figures.
I know death is not the end and find comfort in that.
I agree with that 100%.
And he said, so why is it hurting so bad?
Because the Holy Spirit is in mourning and that spirit is in all of us believers.
Charlie was a light in this world who was bringing the good news to everyone.
He was leading by example.
We're not capable of understanding God's plans,
but just as Jesus wept for Lazarus, Lazarus, the Spirit weeps for Charlie.
And I thought, you know, that's a pretty profound thought too.
And I, you know, I sit and, you know, I agree with so much what you're saying.
Because I'm sitting on this side, married man who's, you know, I have a lot of guiding principles or a lot of things that I've really started to focus in on.
and one being the family, being married to one woman,
supporting my kids in the best way possible.
And then, you know, usually the best way possible is making sure that I can be there for them,
you know, and be healthy and healthy of mind as well.
And the Bible has just been, you know, I wake up every morning.
And I was sitting at breakfast this morning.
I don't know what the kids think.
But I'm sitting there and I read proverbs every morning.
Like just like, you know, rain or shine.
I sit out, I have a coffee, and I chuckle about what's in there in the best possible way,
because I'm like, I went 30 some years with my mother telling me, you need to read the Bible.
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, sure.
I'm sure she gifted me one a year.
And I don't know what I ever did with them.
But now it's become the thing that sits on my bedside table.
Because whenever I'm feeling weary or just like I'm lost, you flip open those pages.
and it gives you a direction awfully quick.
Yep.
Man, it's the living word.
I think it's the only book that you could just reread over and over it.
Even if you just never leave Proverbs,
like I've done Proverbs challenges.
I've read through Proverbs,
probably more than any book of the Bible too.
It reads like tweets.
It's just like it fires like a piece of wisdom that just hits you.
And you're like, oh, man, yes.
And it really is the living word.
I believe that for a long time I was intimidated by maybe I won't understand it.
even as a Christian, I kind of had this excuse of, well, I'll let other preachers.
They've studied it.
I'll let them explain it to me.
And I think that's awesome.
And I think you should go to church.
And again, I'm grateful to live in a time.
I listen to three or four sermons a week.
I got preachers all over the country that I'm at the gym.
I put a YouTube on and I get to, you know, get the word preach to me there.
But nothing beats opening your Bible.
And that's just been a really big revelation for me in the last few years that you shouldn't go a day.
I truly, the verse that hit me that opened my.
eyes of this was you know you need to give God your first fruits and I used to think that was just
money so okay we tithe our 10% goes to God every and we're good and I thought what's more valuable than
money time and energy and where your heart goes and so now I look at that as like man first thing but
when I get up I'm not giving my clients any attention I'm not even going to give my kids or my
wife I'm going to get up before everybody and I'm going to read the Bible so that God can pour
to me. So then I feel like only then am I okay to go be a husband and be the best father
because man, I can't really do it on my own. And I feel like that's been the big revelation
for me, man. So I definitely feel very strongly everything you're saying. Yeah, I was trying to
pull up real fast. There's a scripture. I can't, you know, somebody driving somewhere is going to be
like they're going to text it to me but there there's scripture in the bible that talks about the
word being food for the body food for your bones something along that lines uh you know i i can't
i can't it's bugging me because i'm like the the here's here's two that came up i searched it
real fast um man should not live on bread alone but on every word that comes from the mouth of god
but i feel like there's uh there's something else that i'm missing anyways it doesn't matter
The fear of the Lord brings health to your body and nourishment to your bones.
Yeah, maybe that's what I'm looking for because it's in Proverbs.
I'm sure it's in Proverbs.
Proverbs 3-7 and 3-8.
That's it.
Is that what it is?
Yeah, it might be if that's the one you're talking about.
Yeah, that talks about bringing health to your body and nourishment to your bones.
But I don't know if that's the verse you're talking about.
I feel like it probably is.
I'm going to flip open my Bible when we're all done with this because it's going to annoy me now that I can't spit it out.
And, you know, like I go back to it.
When I'm having, you know, like the Charlie Kirk thing, once again, I'm like, this is,
why is this bothering me?
You know, I understand certain points of that, but like on a different level.
And whenever I get to those moments, flipping it open and just reading from it,
just brings peace back to life, you know, one of the greatest things that I discovered over the
course of this podcast was Jesus.
And it didn't come easy.
Let me tell you, you mentioned some dark pits where,
where God pulled you out of them.
I've been in some dark pits.
I've been in some lows.
And that has been one that, you know,
when you talk about drawing a line and making sure, you know,
one of the,
or, you know, standing firm where your beliefs are.
One of the things I admired about Charlie is because when you talk about the hundreds of hours,
there's like thousands of thousands of hours of content of him online.
You go listen to it.
Now, I don't know.
It might not be in the first video you see,
but you go listen to a full,
I'm a firm believer in like listening to a full hour long conversation
so somebody doesn't cherry pick the one sentence they like,
it's in everything he did.
Like I mean, it's just so,
it's just right there.
And I'm like, that is, that's pretty cool.
And as a man on this side,
I don't know your thoughts.
I'm like,
I need to be better at that.
I feel like at times I am.
Certainly it's a journey and you don't get there overnight.
But that's one of the things that I really admire.
of watching some of the things he did is how it just was at the forefront of everything he was
talking about. He had an amazing ability, I think, to a person would come up very often and
yell at him and accuse him of the worst things in the world. You're a racist. You're that,
you know, all the things nobody wants to ever be accused of. And he would let him speak. And sometimes
other people around him, his supporters would start booing. And he would often say, we have free
speech. Let's let let them speak. And then the thing he did so brilliantly that I've really learned
from and I want to make just be so much better at this moving forward is he would instantly try
and find some common ground with people always. Like no matter how radical they were,
he would ask a question usually and be like, okay, so we can agree on that. And then most of the
time that would disarm them a little bit and okay, you're a human being. I'm a human being.
Maybe we think a little different, but we can agree on this, right? And then he might say,
hey, what do you think on this? And they might say something, you know, well, I think way over this
way. And he'd say, here's where we're going to differ. Here's what I think. And he would very often
rooted in the Bible. And then he would ask them, well, where do you, you know, and okay, we're just
going to disagree on that. But he'd be very kind about it and just it's okay that we're going
to disagree on this. But I'm going to present my evidence and maybe make you think. And I've even
gotten just better at that this week with trolls on Twitter. I mean, I had 250,000 followers
on Twitter. So not a day goes by that I'm not getting a lot of trolls, right?
And so I used to just dismiss them very quickly or maybe even snap back at them often.
And I've just, you know, let's take a breath.
And that's a human being and just, hey, can we find a little common ground here?
Now, some people are just so vile that, you know, you're going to say certain things.
I'm just going to block you.
But like for most people, man, I'm going to throw at least a branch out and say, can we find a little common ground here?
You know, because he was just so masterful at that.
And I also think, man, it's pretty terrifying that he does have $100,000.
hours out and that they have cherry picked like three things most of them that aren't true and how many
people just believe that now they could just go watch themselves anybody but it's like that that's a
lesson for all of us because that happens on any side of the the court you cherry pick a few things
they say then you already assume you know everything about the person yep you know and imagine if you
judged me or you, Sean, on the worst three things we've ever said in our life. I mean,
I'd be crucified. I'd be dead, you know, and I think almost every human would. I even said that,
do you remember the thing in the news a few weeks ago about that woman who stole a baseball from a
little kid? And like everybody was outraged about let's cancel her, let's fire her from her job.
And my comment was like, maybe she found out her mom had cancer that day. Maybe she's having the
worst day of her life. Maybe her life is so sad right now that like that one ball just she thought
that was going to make her happy.
maybe we should show a little grace and try and find a little common ground and not just be so quick
to cancel everybody and assume we know everything about him off of one really poor 40-second interaction,
you know?
I try my best at that.
I try my best.
Yeah.
You can run into people every single day where you're like, you know, I've had those days
where I'm looking for the fight.
I'm looking for it.
Let's go.
You want to go?
Let's go.
And to just try and be like,
how's your day going?
Because, you know, when you, when you talk about Charlie being masterful,
disarming people, that's what it is.
It's like, just, you know, what's going on?
You know, like maybe just haven't had anyone care about you for a long time or ask you
how your day is or, you know, what you're going through.
Because, you know, one of the things that all of us human beings share in,
or we all are sharing in, you know, the experience is all of us got problems in our day
the day. And one of the things I am extremely thankful is I got a loving wife, three healthy kids.
And when I go home, even as some days the kids can absolutely put some gray hairs on my head,
maybe remove a few, like it's a healthy place to be and I love being around it. And sometimes
they can argue about these silliest things where you're like, guys are driving me nuts.
But it is a healthy space. And not everybody has that. And certainly the way the trends are going
with divorce or list off the problems.
That's right.
You know, one thing that's really opened my eyes, my wife and I, was it three and
half years ago, we did foster care.
So we had one bio daughter.
It was a very tough pregnancy for my wife.
And she was told she could never have kids, to be honest, when we got married.
So we assumed we were going to adopt.
We got pregnant on them honeymoon, by the way, after multiple doctors told her she couldn't
have kids.
But it was not an easy pregnancy.
So we knew that would be the only one.
So we did foster care and I always assumed before going into foster care and adoption that every child had at least one parent in their life that kind of cared about them.
You know, like I grew up with two and grandparents down the road that loved me and I just had such a privileged, like awesome life that I had a lot of people around me.
We didn't have any money.
We didn't have any resources or, you know, but I had people around me that loved me.
And I just kind of always assumed somewhere in the back of my head like every kid had that.
And man, being in the foster care system, we fostered seven children.
And it opened my eyes that a lot of these kids have no one.
Like, you know, you'll meet a kid in the system that's 15 years old that's been to 17 homes that's been abused in some of those homes.
And then you realize like those people become adults.
And they've never had one person say a kind thing to them, encourage them, tell them you can.
And it makes a lot of sense to me then when, and I often think about that when somebody will come out.
me online or say a really hurtful thing. I'm like, hurt people, hurt people. And they're probably
just in a really bad place. And they probably never had anybody show them empathy, love, kindness,
grace, any of the fruits of the spirit, compassion, joy, peace that were supposed to be emulating
as Christ's followers. And so I think if even telling us back to Charlie, like he was so good at that.
He lived the fruits of the spirit. And I think, man, if all of us did that every day, I imagine like
there would be a revival without us even trying to have a revival because eventually,
eventually after a while, people are going to be like, man, I'm tired of feeling miserable and
angry all the time. And like, why are you so happy? I've had people ask me that. Like,
why are you so happy and positive? Don't you know there's wars and there's turmoil? And I'm like,
yeah, it's just a choice. And let me tell you about he that lives in me. That's the only reason.
If I go off on my own, I'm going to be as miserable as you are sounding right now.
but I have this peace in me from a hope.
And I have this guy named Jesus Christ.
It's the only guy that's ever lived that death couldn't beat him.
That he literally died, got crucified, and rose from the dead and gave us hope for a new life.
And so let me tell you about him.
And I think if everybody listening out there can just think, like, how can I live more like that?
How can I wake up every day and make it my mission to exude the fruits of the spirit?
To live this on-fire life that, man, you know what?
maybe we didn't get bad, great service at the restaurant, but maybe that waiters is,
waitress is going through something.
Maybe I can try and make their day.
How could I turn their day around?
Maybe I could give them a compliment or build them up, you know, just in everyday interactions
in life, I think kindness and empathy and compassion that go a long way.
And so I just think as Christ followers, that's what we're called to do.
The coolest thing ever about this, it's a cheat code for you living a great life too.
And I tell my clients this all the time.
I did this two mornings ago.
I was very low energy.
I hadn't slept great.
And I'm going to the gym at like 515.
And dude, I'm tired.
And I'm cranky.
And I don't really want to be there at all.
And I'm like, I'm just going to have a crappy workout.
And it is what it.
And so I took a breath.
And I thought, I'm going to go make somebody's day today.
I said, the first person I see when I walk into that gym, I'm going to make their day.
I'm going to have them talking about the interaction that I have with him all day.
So I see this sweet lady, 81 years old.
I've seen her in the gym many times before,
and I just walked up to her right away.
I took my headphone out and I said,
ma'am, I sorry to interrupt your workout.
I just have to tell you,
I've seen you here over the last six months.
You inspire me so much.
I said, I wanna be you.
In 40 years, I wanna be lifting weights.
I said, can I just give you a hug and say thank you?
You are an amazing person to be in the gym
five days a week in your 80s.
And she gave me a huge hug,
told me she liked my tank top.
Her name's Lois, she's a two time cancer,
survivors. She told me all about her kids. We sat there and chatted for 10 minutes, gave each other a hug.
I left that. I walked into the gym about a two out of 10 energy. After that conversation, I was a 10 out of 10.
I killed the workout on fire the rest of the day. And I think if you can internalize that one thing,
life's a mirror. And if you're feeling low, you're getting inside your head and you're down,
go make somebody else's day. I think God designed the universe like that, that you can't be kind to others and
others without actually helping you. And so I've really used that and leverage as a cheat code for my
life. Like when me and my wife go out to dinner, we don't say I hope the service is good. We literally
say we're going to go make somebody's day. We're going to go make that waitresses day,
whether that be a great tip, a nice kind note, building her up, saying thank you a lot,
all the things that we can do, right? And I just imagine a world where everybody lived like that,
like, man, that would be amazing. That's what I, that's what I, what I share mostly and what I hope for.
Tyler, this has been two years in the making and more worth the way.
Appreciate you hopping on today and doing this.
Let's do it again sometimes, Sean.
I'd love to have an even at more length discussion.
And, man, I'd love to promote your conference anyway that I can and help too, man.
I love your mission and what you're doing.
So I'm really grateful to come on, man, and share.
Thanks again.
Thank you, brother.
