Shaun Newman Podcast - #924 - Chuck Prodonick

Episode Date: October 2, 2025

Chuck Prodonick spent 20+ years in the Canadian military. He is a retired sergeant who served as a member of the Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry and served in 4 tours overseas. We discuss the state of Canada, ostriches, Charlie Kirk and the UK. Tickets for the Prairie Rising Forum:https://prairierisingforum.ca/To watch the Full Cornerstone Forum: https://open.substack.com/pub/shaunnewmanpodcastGet your voice heard: Text Shaun 587-217-8500Silver Gold Bull Links:Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/Email: [e-mail] Grahame: [phone]Bow Valley Credit UnionBitcoin: www.bowvalleycu.com/en/personal/investing-wealth/bitcoin-gatewayEmail: [e-mail] Use the code “SNP” on all ordersProphet River Links:Website: store.prophetriver.com/Email: [e-mail] Money SummitWebsite: ExpatMoneySummit.com

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Today I'm joined by Chuck Prodnick. Chuck, thanks for being back in studio, sir. Good to see you, brother. Thanks for having me. We're doing this right off the hop, all right? Everybody knows when I have somebody in studio and Chuck seems to be the big winner on this. Yeah, they get a one ounce. coin so sir yeah I'm gonna add this to my my hoard sometimes I pour it out run my

fingers through it yes thanks brother yeah as everybody I should clarify it I assume everybody knows by now but if you come in studio a one ounce silver coin is what we give out SGB has been very kind on that and with the prices of silver the price is of gold right now if we haven't been paying attention on just go to silver gold bowl dot Sierra dot Cair dot com and just check out their charts if you can If you Google it, chance a lot of it's the first one to count up. But like the old, it just keeps going up and up. It's still climbing.

And when you look at what our country is doing, I'm like, we're the world for that matter's doing. You're like, that isn't going down any time soon. No. Like it's, it's only going to go higher. So I started into this stuff about close to 20 years ago when spot price had it just over 20 bucks roughly. And it's climbing and climbing. And this isn't, I don't ever compare this. physical backup to like silver and gold to bitcoin where that does that that that is that does

its own thing i'm not trying to disway people from not get into it if you want but this the physical thing in your hand is uh i'll take that all day long as we sit here today 60 6539 Canadian for an ounce of silver so when you talk about 20 years of you know that's yeah and gold is is over five grand. Oh, yeah. Yeah. 53.

So you, you know, and I just look at the charts and you just see the upward trend and you go. And that's a drastic upward trend here lately. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which isn't it's a, that's a pattern of life to watch for too. I mean, historically when those precious metals become more valuable in a shorter distance of time, things are probably moving around behind the scenes.

I don't know what they all are. I think anybody that's watching the world right now knows. There's a tectonic shift happening one way or the other. You know, I don't want to use ostriches as the canary in the coal mine. Another bird. But the, they kind of are for what's going on in Canada. I don't think there's anybody right now that isn't watching what's going on out there. For a variety of reasons.

We all kind of feel, or at least the people I talk to day in and day out, it's an overall, that's an overall bellwether for where we sit. great now. We all kind of feel like we're the ostriches that have no voice. They're the, you know, these things are could have been studied and we're supposed to have been studied for the COVID antibodies that they've apparently got, surviving what they survived. And here we sit with the food agency, somehow with the all being power that they are, shutting them down to cull them. You watch the, a buddy of mine, a veteran, Mike Rood out there doing what he's doing and he's kind of this morning they or was it late last night or this morning they exposed that every all the vehicles going in with the RCMP are taping their license plates never seen that before in the country apparently as long as you're under RCMP protection you can tape up your license plate if you feel threatened so Mike was asking them on camera like well what have I feel threatened I guess I can tape up my plate I mean he's being a little tongue and cheek about it but I mean we can strange it

We can break all these rules. We can bend all these rules just because, just because we say so. You know, he said some other stuff too. You can see the videos online. You know, he's not afraid to speak his mind. That's for sure. You know, I just had Martin Armstrong on. And come back to those conversations over and over again because he's been on,

I don't know how many times at this point. But, you know, he always talks about 2032 as being this crescendo of, we're going to go one way or the other. And, you know, I've said this lots recently that I'm like, well, what happens between here and there to get us to that point? And he's like, I don't know. How the heck of what I know? I'm just telling you what the computer says.

And I chuckle because it's ostriches in Canada that have been the latest catalyst. Catalyst, right? It was the crossbow in Lindsay, Ontario, the guy breaking in. And then, like, it was the same week, the guy raping the three-year-old. Yeah. And like the people being outside the prison saying give them to us. Yeah. And then you fast forward, what has it been?

Maybe two weeks. And all of a sudden you got the ostrich thing, haven't drawing not only Canadian. Worldwide. Worldwide. Right? And I'm like, yeah, we're these, these red flags are just popping up everywhere. And I don't know what comes, you know, you talk about patterns of life. And, and I'm watching it.

Like, here we are. And I'm like, well, what's the next one to pop off? There's no predictor for it, except that I would, I would have to say, and this is just me guessing and spitballing with some buddies, a few of them seem to think that Carnage is going to call a pretty quick election at some point here. He needs the majority. And he's probably looking at the polling going, well, I can maybe sneak a majority if they play their liberal game again, you know. And if they pull in a majority, because right now they're trialing the gun, the gun grab in, where is it? Cape Breton. Cape Breton.

What a great, wonder why they pick Cape Breton. Little Island, fairly docile population. That's where Jeff Eively is. Yeah. Yeah. Well,

we'll see what goes on with that. Maybe he'll take his weapons for a walk in the woods or something. I don't know. But we'll see. We'll see what happens with this turn in. We'll see what goes on with it. We'll see the pressure they put on people. You know,

they're already landlocked into a spot you already feel a little bit you can feel like great britain where you're mighty and strong because you're land or your your your landlocked island or you can feel segregated from the rest of the country where what do we do now and they're they picked this spot probably for all a lot of those psychological reasons we'll see what happens with it and right now there's still an amnesty till i think the end of october so i think the end of October. I could be off on that. One of the CCFR people would know better. But so they don't technically have to hand anything in. We'll see if they do. And this is all being, I mean, I wouldn't say it's been run by that minister, the Tamil tiger guy there. Gary,

Abba is whatever the hell is last name. I can't, there's got 15 syllables and consonants, every other damn thing in it. Like that guy there didn't even know what an R-PAL was. Didn't know what a pal-R-Pow was. Doesn't, doesn't know what anything is. should have resigned the second it was explained to the everybody in Canada that he'd written letters of endorsement for Tamil tigers to get citizenship to this country like like what the hell like 16 dollar orange juice gets a guy fired if he's conservative but this Muppets for endorsing terrorists to come with here who are apparently living here and now he's in charge of taking our guns you know are you kidding where are we living did you see the guy get her I don't, did he get arrested folks?

I think he got arrested for calling a lady in UK a Muppet. Mm-hmm. And my initial thought was, Chuck would endorse that. I endorse that. I mean, that's where we learned it from. I mean, it's, it's an insult that sticks. And I've worked with a lot of British soldiers and any guy, any veteran that's worked with the British military before.

When you hear them say Muppet, that's like, you know, you're cutting. You're cutting bone apart with that, you know, like the first, not the first time, but one of the times I'd heard it just, and it was, it wasn't directed at me, although it was being said to me by a British sergeant major about some European folks that we'd escorted in and I turned them over to him. And I'm talking, this dude is your typical movie worthy Britishard major big, loud, lanky, intimidating, scary dude. And we're in Afghanistan. And I'm like, oh, here's the guys who brought in for you. I'm kind of. a joke about it like oh look at these idiots you know they they needed us two sections of canadians and two vehicles to go bring in about 50 vehicles of worth of these dudes i'm not gonna say which country they were but they're useless europe and um like here they go sir and he's like just glaring at me and he's not mad at me he's mad that this is what he's taking into helman province and he's like these fucking muppets i and i'm like oh And I'm just, I'm going to go now.

I'm going to run away from me. I'm charging machine guns every other day, but I'm going to run from this guy because he's just used the word Muppets in a way that I felt like I'd been shot, you know, and I'm like, it's, it works. And these people are Muppets. They're absolute. Our leadership are Muppets. And I'm talking the conservative side, the liberal side, all sides, you know, I'm not a big

guy. I'm not a guy that likes to ever say, well, we can't vote our way out of it. I don't see a voting strategy out of this. Do you? Because we, There's like one conservative MP speaking up with the ostriches. One. I think there's one that's actually been there, been like, what the hell they, they wouldn't even,

the food agency, I don't remember their acronym, some acronym or other for the, our food agency, basically mini Gestapo guys won't even, they don't even have a spokesperson dealing with the media, the politicians, no one. You imagine that. You imagine that. So all this looks like is they're just raising the fence higher and higher and higher with the hay bales and the fencing they put up there. So everybody else is getting out higher and higher, higher, higher scissor lifts to try and look in and what's going on. And by all accounts, those birds are suffering.

Now, even if you, you know, think, oh, we should get rid of these animals for some unscientific reason, because there's no science that's backing this on any front that's backing this. The way they're being treated, I grew up on a farm, anybody that hunts is usually the kindest people towards animals and other than the ones you're shooting that you're eating. I mean, and that's done as humanely as possible. You don't treat those animals with anything less than respect and dignity. And that's not what's happening to these 400, roughly 400 birds. It's just something wrong with it all.

Like there's something really wrong with it. And if you're an RCM and what is a couple hours away? There's a missing five-year-old that's been missing eight, nine, ten days now. You think there's flying drones over to look for that kid and all the other stuff going on in the meantime? I don't think so. Yeah, I looked it up. It's seven hours away, but in this country, that might as well be a couple hours away. Yeah.

And you got roughly 100 RCMP, roughly somewhere in that range, working 24-7. What did Katie say? Roughly 70 offers on day shift and another 30 on night shift or whatever at the farm. Yeah. And, you know, you got a missing kid. And it's funny because one of the listeners had text me. I didn't, I didn't, like, immediately clue in, but he's on search and rescue. And wasn't allowed to give me any details.

But, you know, I'm like, we haven't found this kid. It's like, well, you'd think that would be top priority. Because even if you think the birds should be killed. You can pause that. You can pause that for a week. Yeah. I mean, they're still going to be there. Yeah.

You know? They're not flying away, apparently. They're ostriches. Like, they're not going nowhere, but the priority is that. That says everything you need to know about our government. I'm talking conservative and liberal side. Liberals are a lost cause anyway. They're junk.

But the conservatives may not know better. They know better. We got Pierre back in there. Good. Like that ain't going to do nothing. He hasn't said nothing about the birds. He doesn't goes off about a few things here and there. Some really great tweets again.

And, you know, anybody that was a staunch Pierre guy, which I was, there's no faith in that anymore. Like there's none in that we we just need to be done with the rest of Canada we need to separate the shit out Let them do their own thing Daniel Smith is far from perfect But I give her credit when she does speak up on some important issues She generally is getting it right immigration not so much she seems to want to increase this shit somehow It's unfathomable to we're already overburdened overloaded

we don't need any more. We need to start sending back. Return to sender. We are at that point. We've increased our population in this country by almost 35% over the last, I think, less than 10 years. What is that? Everything that was already broken and busted or failing

is completely unusable now. We can talk about that ad nauseum. But if we, thankfully we have her and her stance on our keeping our guns, and not taking part in the gun grab, thankfully, huge. Her stuff with the puberty blockers and the school issues that she's took a pretty firm stance on and is very directly spoken about, huge. There's a bunch of other issues too where she's actually, you know, gets it.

If we didn't have her, I don't know where we'd be. We'd be no better than any other province at this point, except for the pioneering mentality that the West generally encompasses. I mean, Edmonton's a shithole. It's full of left wing loons. But, you know, you get outside of a major urban area or urban area and get to the normal folk. We just want to be done with this. You know, it's, I don't think there's, now if Jamie was sitting here, I can hear him right now.

Shout out to Jamie. Shout out to Jamie. Love you, brother. He still sees this as salvageable, this country is salvage. And I know a lot of people do. I know, you know, it's funny. I can't speak for Jamie. And you know exactly what's going to happen.

He's going to text me 600 times. Oh, my phone's blowing up right now. Ready to go. But he's the guy who positioned the idea in my brain probably four years ago almost to the date that Western Canada just has different values than Eastern Canada. He already saw it back then. So I actually don't know if, you know, he wants Canada to work. I think a lot of us want Canada to work.

Did. I did. I went to war. So did. So did a lot of other people. I think it was Mike Rood was saying on a film the other day, about 144,000 Canadians since World War I have died in service to this country. That doesn't sound, that either sounds like an astronomical number or not a big number when you put it in perspective of things. But put it in the perspective of our population at the time.

World War I, we had 10 million, 9.5 million people, a million people in uniform. No one else pumps 10% of a population into uniform except us. You know, sends and then gets given the worst jobs, does them. When everybody else has failed, Canadians do them. And every war since then, same thing. The worst areas of operation, Canadians get it done. Every time, outnumbered, doesn't matter. Get it done.

And like Mike was saying, you have to watch his videos on the Twitter. We went to war for this shit to watch what's going on with the RCMP and the food agency or some FBI, DHS and all in one combination of bullshit. Secret acronym name, dairy cartel infused syrup suckers going after these birds. Are you kidding me? That's, that's, that's, I went to war so you come after my guns here. I'm the problem here. legal gun owners in Canada are the problem here you got to come after us I went to war for this shit I am gonna already hear you know some left wing nut job out there going well you don't you don't have

a right on those guns I might not yeah because we live under an constitutional monarchy which is an ad hoc system to begin with with this bullshit charter of rights which is it is a bullshit charter of rights just kind of smudged in there somehow like we're just going to make that fit none of that works none of it fits it's a junk system to begin with we've we've just kind of trundled along for, you know, 160 odd years or whatever it's been now, just kind of making it work. We're not a real country. That's why nobody can identify our Canadian identity.

They're not really country. We're the leftovers of a British fragmented empire that somehow America said or decided at some point, you know, and don't count the war of 1812 where they came up here and Canada kicked the British kicked them back back then. It wasn't Canadians. Yeah, okay, we're Canadians, British, whatever, colonial part of the empire we were at that point. Yeah, we kicked them back. And some people hold on to this as like, oh, we did all this stuff.

And then we went and burnt their White House. Like, okay, yeah, fine. But for some reason in the intervening time, when they certainly could have a hundred years ago and still could today, walk up here and occupy us in a heartbeat and haven't. We, we forged this identity of not being Americans. not that's not good enough that isn't good enough it isn't anything that's the way we can't rally as a country it's why as a country overall that's so spread out and so big and so different and the value system is so different we can't rally we won't rally it takes a war to rally the country unfortunately and even then we didn't rally in the last one that's why guys like

jamie and i went over time and again i have friends that went over there four fucking times four times because ain't nobody joining and certainly ain't nobody joining now nobody's staying it's worse than it was then old chuck's fired up this morning chuck's got a lot of fatigue with a lot of stuff yeah a lot of fatigue with i'm gonna be all over the place today i can tell already i'm not even looped up and loaded um hopped up on uh mountain dew but uh but uh so my daughter She takes a hende every day to go to work. And you see every day and in the news on Twitter and every other news outlet some new Canadians and their driving skills.

And especially in the big trucks. She was behind, a few hundred meters behind on the hende, a couple of months, maybe it's a month ago now, where that dude with a flatbed with a D9 or those are bigger than a D9, I think, smacked into the overpass, stuck it there. Again, that same overpass got hit a, ago and I'm like hey you know I'm thinking this never used to happen like this and I'm you're noticing and if you're a noticer you're going to get labeled if you start to notice the trends you're going to be well you can't notice that you racist asshole I don't give a

shit I don't give a liquid shit so you know I'm on my way here I'm on my way here and I'm leaving I'm on the I'm on the yellow head just got off of the hende on the yellowhead uh cruising past Sherwood park on the way through here and this guy and he's got a road roller one I don't know what they're call but he's got the big wheels on you flatten out fresh fresh you know what I'm talking about faith fresh payment one of those and he starts no signal no nothing and I'm behind him and cars are passing they're whipping and he starts to drift into that lane I don't mean like touching the line I mean he's drifted fully over

then he drifts back and I'm like what in the shit now he's staying way to the right I'm like I got it around this guy because nothing good's gonna come with this as I start to pass just to get into the go go lane he drifts all the way over no signal no nothing goes for a couple clicks goes to the right again i get passed i just gun it and go and everybody behind me you could see was doing the same thing there is now a stack of people going what in the shit and i look and it's a new canadian as per i'll be that guy i don't give a shit um i now view those trucks and i never did before basically like I did in all vehicles in Afghanistan like a fucking time bomb like an

actual VBIED waiting to happen because they are I don't mean to sound hyperbolic here and the world you don't have to look far and every day something ridiculous has happened in this country and people are paying life for it every day you know everybody remembers Humboldt years ago and that whole situation and it was almost like some big I don't hate to use this word today some big reconciliation happened you know like oh it's one-time thing and oh it ain't some one-time thing is it because people are dying every fucking day on our roads because of this we know the scams they're running with getting these licenses it's been broken all time and time again nothing's being done about it not a thing that's where

the RCMP should be looking up that go for that start busting these rings start busting the rings that are bringing them in you know You can't get a job. My kids, thankfully, have a job, have jobs. But you can't, I, when your kids are job ages and I'm talking like anything from, you know, 14, 15, 16 where they get that first summer job going, good luck. Good luck. It ain't, it just isn't going to happen.

And we all know why. These businesses too, they'll be posting stuff like, hmm, working up a dry mouth going here, getting the sweat going folks um these businesses are posting stuff like i'm wondering who put the cattle prod on on chuck this morning it's been brewing for a bit he walked in it's been a while i don't you know we haven't had uh in since probably before summer right well since before the uh the uh lot the vent the cornerstone is that how long it's been i got to go look really it's been since before may well i came out here where we went to the the farm and worked on the studio but uh A couple weeks ago, a month or a few weeks ago, yeah.

But on here, it's been a minute. I've got a lot vented up here. A lot is, it's just time to unleash the cattle. But these companies are posting, well, we'll go to business if we can't have access to the TFWs, then go the fuck out of business. I don't give a shit. You're right. April 15th.

Yeah. Yeah. So I don't care about these businesses. They all managed before, but now, you know, there's that magic number. And I saw it posted about it someplace in Ontario where the, The magic cut off numbers like $36.10. Of what they can safely get subsidized or some, some, you know, some mathematician out there, some guru with money and numbers and knows more of it.

But this is the number that these companies all shove the, shove at the government to get their subsidy for it, I guess. And so they don't break 3610. And I don't know how much the worker sees and how much the company sees. I don't know. But we all know what's going on. We all see it, we all feel it, you can't walk down the street and not notice it. Noticers, you know, you can't be on a highway right now and not notice it. I'm telling you that right now.

If you drive any amount of distance and if you're an Alberta, Saskatchewan, you do, I'm sure of it. You notice it. It's, and it's costing lives. You know, had it explained to me by a fellow who came from over there a long time ago, over 20 odd years ago. And he's been here and he's acclimatized and he's engulfed himself in Canadian culture as much as that means anything. And he said when we came over 20, 30 years ago, those of us that came here back then, you were getting a different cast. He didn't say cast, but I'm going to use the word cast because they have a caste system. And we were able to get ourselves here and we wanted to get here and we wanted to dive into everything here.

And they did. They're the first guys wearing oilers shirts. They're the first, you know, they integrated. They kept, yeah, keep your identity from wherever you're, don't bring your bullshit fucking politics here that's going on with that too. That's another big deal. But they wanted to integrate. And he goes, the ones that are coming now are being either fed a pipe dream or

fed a lie or whatever the case is and whatever they're being told over there to get them here. And of course, everybody wants to leave there anyway. I mean, you've seen the place. it's and then we're not getting that tier of person anymore we're not getting the ones that they don't give a shit there's a no trust society here now we used to have a high trust society here now we don't have a no trust society here now you know something as simple as leaving treats out on your front porch at Halloween where you could do that before and you know kids would take a couple maybe some fat kid to take a handful but like there's always the fat kid

that's going to go one further. But mostly, because they're with their parents, the parents are, oh, take one, you know, and out you go. That doesn't happen now. You can't do that now. They're just going to empty the bowl and run off. Not even know the decency to wear a fucking costume.

Well, I got to give shout out to Lloydminster, because we still do that. Small towns, yeah. Because we, you know, you go out with the kids and you're like, wow, we got to put something out. And you usually come back and it's been picked in to pretty hard, but it hasn't been, I know, the kids.

kids come up and dump the whole thing in. Used to just be fat kids you had to worry about. Now it's not fat kids. You don't have to harp on you fat kids. Question for you. Yeah. If you're done with your rat. Yeah,

give her. We've been talking about it because it feels like there's, you know, it doesn't happen that often, but it has been happening enough to where I've noticed it. Mm-hmm. Which is

they're talking about whether or not Canadian support mandatory military, enrollment, service, thank you. And you go, what? No. I mean, there was a time when I lived in Finland

where their mandatory military service. And I thought, wow, this is, honestly, I think if I was a younger man, I'd be all four. You get a little bit of training, and you're sitting on the border of Russia, and you know, you've got to realize there's threats out there that would be very interesting, you know, and so I got talking to a lot of the different people

I was playing hockey with. because they had to do it. I think it was after they did their mandatory military service, I think it was every two years they had to go back for a refresher course. Yeah, they would do an exercise or something. Yeah. And I was like, oh, that's really interesting. But then you get run by a group of Muppets.

And I'm like, I want nothing to do with mandatory military service with this group of people running our country, not even a chance of it. Like full stop. I'm not even interested in your world. Are you hearing more about that? Or is that just kind of like throwing it over? there and seen how the population reacts.

I know there's an article in McLean another day by that Muppet who says it's time to it'll he think he seems to think it's going to reinvigorate patriotism are you fucking shit in me? Where's the patriotism here in this country? I've experienced it in small doses occasionally and usually at great cost real cost not hyperbolic cost I mean real

fucking cost and then some people start waving a flag and getting themselves onto an overpass. Fair enough, I appreciate that. I'm of two minds when it comes to a mandatory service. I've seen it firsthand with a variety of European armies, and they were to a one of them absolutely useless. Useless. I've trained with Norwegians, and I'm not knocking Norwegians per se,

but I've trained a few times over in Norway, a couple months at a time. Brutal place to train. and these guys were on their, they're, you know, that what you just talked about. They've done their minimum mandatory service of a year or two years. I don't remember which theirs is at.

And they'd have to come back every, I think it's every year for them, might be every two years and they have to do a month-long exercise. And we were, it was rough going. It was very rough going, even for us. And, uh, these guys would sit down and quit in the middle of mountain on a mountain somewhere.

Just sit down and quit. And I'm not talking like, here in Banford, you can go back on the trail and go back to your car. I'm talking, you're in the mountains in Norway. And we're like, what in the fuck? Like, we were all, the 30 of us that were in an exchange. We're like, what in my fuck? They can't just quit your soldiers.

Like, no, no, no, no, we quit. And so they get walked back, you know, or they'd get a BV206, a big snow machine up there, throw them in the back of that with an MP, take them back to the barracks, which are now basically turned into mini jails. And instead of doing their 30 days or month long exercise out in the boonies doing army stuff, they just get confined to quarters. And that's the mentality of when you force people to do something. When you force people, they would rather sit there confined to quarters.

And just, you know, I just got to sit here. Do some basic soldiering. And I can understand it. It wouldn't if I'd been forced into it, I suppose. But look, you, the people want to go back to World War I. world or two. We had to do it then. Well, we're fighting world wars. Probably a little different. Do I think we have a need to increase our military? Yes, but I would incentivize it. I would incentivize the shit out of it. You can't do it with this government. Can't do it with a liberal government.

And you can't really do it when the us going to wars on the doorstep. And Ukraine is still on that doorstep. And it's still tossed around. We're going to throw Canadian troops over there, but only is a peacekeeping thing. Well, peacekeeping is bullshit. I've done. peacekeeping. It is utter bullshit. It's useless for one and it's just about as dangerous as anything else because you're there in the UN and the UN ROEs rules of engagement are absolutely egregious. You can't defend yourself. You can't do nothing. You know, they count your fucking Bosnia 94. They're counting our bullets every time, literally counting our bullets in our vehicle and in our on our battle rattle every time we'd walk back into camp. And if you're missing one,

if one got misplaced, there'd be an investigation. We got we had workarounds for that. But I mean, that's the UN and if they sending Canadians to Ukraine first of all there's got to be a peace there ain't no peace and nobody seems to want peace that matters and Russia is just going to keep chunking along on the land and before you know it they're going to be in Kiev

you know and they don't give a shit if that takes them another five years they don't care about attrition attrition is one of their doctrine it's their doctrine They're just going to, I trit the shit out of them. And they've already done it to our stores. Our war stores in NATO are essentially empty of the goodies. You know, that's why you see the British military falling apart too. They're falling apart as rapidly as Arza did.

Ours is just kaput. The American or military is a bit more robust, but they're still, they're, they went through a lot of stuff. They've gone through a lot of stuff to send to them. If they ever invoked a conscription, that would be. a hell of a catalyst that would be a catalyst it might be one thing that united well i don't know if it wouldn't unite the left and the right because the left seems to be all about this kind of thing and it would be the boomer pushing it because the boomer doesn't have to be conscripted and that's where

you get this lorencian elitist group of boomers who seem to think that their elbows matter more than our rights so i don't want it do i think there could be a mandatory type of service where you either maybe you could go a few different ways you could get into the forestry service for a year or two years or some you know thing that would be beneficial to the country or pick the military for a year or two so yeah you have to give some sort of service to the country you know when you turn 18 but not necessarily the military unless you chose it maybe then i would almost like to go i don't know if you've seen the old movie stars ship troopers back in the day, you know, citizen citizenship through service.

I'm damn near there. I'll tell you that. Like I'm, I'm pretty much there in my mind that, you know, you know, it, it always sits in the back of a veteran's head, like I went to fucking war for this at some point. You kind of go like, I went to war. I don't regret going to war. I don't have any regrets about that. What I regret is what my country has turned into since then.

and I'm sure probably all vets after every war they've been in, World War I, two, Korea, whatever, have had those moments like, I fucking went to war for this. Are you kidding me? Like, but if those vets could see the state of the country now, no, this country is, it isn't what it was. It's not even a shadow or a faint memory of what it was now. We all know, we all feel it, we all sense it, Everybody can observe those patterns of life themselves. Nobody knows what to do about it. It's easy. We just separate out.

We can leave the east to their values, leave them to their values, or lack thereof. I don't give a shit. They can do whatever they want. Doug Fork can pour out 40 pounds of royal, crown royal in front of himself and make a mess of that. Two minutes to pour that bottle. Are you kidding me? I could have chugged that in two minutes. I would have been a bit of a state after.

But that fat Muppet can't get nothing right. except buffet lines, I'm guessing. But, you know, this, you know, a buddy. I feel like this could be a comedy, you know, come listen to Chuck monologue. But a buddy of mine, a good friend, one of my best friends, I've worked with him in the jail for almost 10 years, great friend of mine. He came up with this a while back. He goes, we were talking about Doug Ford and some of his antics. And he goes, you know, any Ontario conservative is by any other metric, an elephant.

liberal out here. It's just the way it is. It's just the way. My parents think of themselves as conservatives and their old retired dairy cattle farmers. They're staunch conservatives. But they're out here they'd be a liberal. They'd be, they're more liberal minded, you know, and I don't know maybe out east you think you're a conservatives. Maybe you really are. I'm not trying to paint you all with one brush, although I kind of am. Um, well, we got some lovely, uh, eastern listeners. We do. I know, I know. But on the, but on the whole is what you're talking about. You're electing a Doug for, now I can't say you're elected to do. We had Rachel fucking Notley in here, but that's what happens when the urban areas take over the voting parts, right?

I mean, and she ran this province into the shitter and finally, you know, we got a Daniel Smith and we got a good version of Daniel Smith. I think, I think if she trends the right way, if she goes with her heart more than what the polling groups are, probably tell her her internal pollsters, you know, have to feed her here and there. I mean, we've talked to, well, there's the one lady. I'm not going to bring up her name, but we both know and we've talked to her and she's been to your events. Brilliant lady, very smart lady with numbers and taxes and whatnot. You know who you are? Extentric dresser. One of my favorite people. I'm not going to bring up her name though, but I'm going to describe. I'm going to rat her out a little bit, you know. She has nothing but great things to say about

Daniel Smith. And for the most part, we've all observed it. The one thing, the Ivermectin thing she brought up a while back was a little out there for me, like, you know, kind of outline or banning it or whatever she wanted to do with it. I thought we were over that part of it. I thought that was a weird, I just thought that was an odd thing to kind of make public to do. It just doesn't sit right with me either, you know, but whatever. Um, and the immigration part. Like she's, she's, there's ads apparently out in Ontario people put on the Twitter you know come to Alberta if you're an immigrant or you know a new whatever we're just trying to shuffle them here and dump them into our towns and towns little towns you know I don't understand that because they're not going to vote for her at all when they

do if they do manage to stay and get on the voter rolls you know I don't know if I've seen anything about immigrants uh from the ads I think uh the ads I've seen from on for Alberta in Ontario has been basically along, and maybe somebody will prove me wrong on this, have been more on the line of come out here for a better way of life, better opportunity. And there's been a lot. If there's been a trend I've seen,

there has been a lot of Ontario ones come here. Yeah. And a big part of that is the way Daniel Smith talks. I mean, obviously, not to mention all the opportunity that Alberta, if left to do its thing, will have. I mean, like, there's just so much opportunity in this area. More than a few, we probably all do a few Ontarians. I grew up in Ontario until I was 17 that have come here in the last few years because it,

it feels a little bit like there's still some freedom. Well, it feels like it's, you know, it's the Texas of the north as everybody keeps calling it. Yeah. Like there's there, we're still talking, we're not, we have groups in Alberta that are, are trying to push that, uh, you know, a boy can still be a girl and all that. Yeah. But we, I think for a lot of people, it's just settled. Now keep it out of the schools.

We're not worried about, you know. The Daniel Smith handling a reporter the other day who asked about puberty blockers. And they're not, they don't block puberty. And Daniel Smith looks at the woman like that's in the name, puberty blocker. And then she went on with a quite in depth, articulate and technical reason why. And I was like, she's a very bright lady, very bright lady. Well, I always say about Daniel Smith. when it comes to politicians that I've dealt with so I wasn't around to you know I never got to interview I don't know Barack Obama but when I was younger watching Barack speak in front of the camera when I was in college he was gifted where he keep 50 kids in her mom 50 25 students in a room mesmerized like just wow listen to this person talk Daniel Smith has that gift she has an ability to whatever topic you're going to throw her to really

talk to it in a way that is impressive. Now you watch Carney on the flip side. He gets caught. He's turning into as bad as Trudeau. He's really as bad as Trudeau. Where they ask him a direct question. And I think even if you can't give out the information, you should be able to go, well, actually, you know, I don't know.

I'm just imposing my thoughts into what the question is. I'm like, you just say, yeah, we're not allowed to give out that information at this point. And then they'll come up with another thing. I, you know, I'll go talk to my team, and maybe we can get you an answer. but right now I can't give you an answer. That's a boat is giving. And instead he's like, well, you know, and I'm like, oh, my goodness, we got another Justin Trudeau. There was a minute and a half of that.

Yes. The presser the other day. It was, um, Oz. The only thing you didn't say was water box thingies. Like, it was the rest of it was just as bad as a Trudeau. Yeah, like, um, it's been interesting, you know, because he was billed as this mature guy who's been in the business and the banking and the government and he's going to come in. That's the bank of England how he did.

You know, ask anywhere where he's worked how he's done. Unless you're Brookfield right now, I think they've gotten 35 new contracts since he's been in. But there's no conflict of interest. This isn't a real country and I'd like out now, you know. And I know there's other veterans out there, some very outspoken ones who are like, we got to fix this. We got to. No, you went to war for this country. I get it.

You served. You did your thing. I get it. I do. But this isn't that place anymore. And you know what? Map lines get redrawn all the time historically. It's time to redraw these.

We can do it very easily and peacefully and legally. Just do it. Get it done. Let's restructure out here. Rebuild out here. You're talking about the opportunities coming out here. I think Imperial Oil just said they're laying off 20% of the forest in the next year. 20%.

Buddy of mine who's relatively high up in that sector is like even us we're he goes i'm probably going to get downsized out like we're we're downsizing everything because we cannot get our oil where it's got to go at the scale that we could be doing it so these companies that kind of thought there might be some movement some areas of flexibility i don't know it just ain't happening so 20 percent and they employ a Fuck a ton of people. All these, and they're just the ones that have announced it so far. It ain't like, you know, gas ain't still selling for whatever it is a barrel.

It's just that the potential, the people will, people will fluff up a company, you know, flesh it out a bit bigger at the prospect of, you know, growth. And when that growth doesn't happen or it actually goes backwards. That's what these liberals have done. You know, you take away the thing that's fueling the country, driving the country, which is Alberta's oil. then what? What's the next catalyst? What does that create?

When you, you know, one of the conversations we had on patterns of life, right, and watching things go on in a country and, you know, obviously you've talked about the ostriches and different things. What are you one of the things going on right now, you know, the drivers, you know, you can just see where these things are leading. me and twos always talk about this with the mashup every week. It's like we had a segment started, and I don't know, twos was 100 mashups ago with criminals. We just started noticing it, right? Like they're going to give the Coots Boys six and a half years.

Now, thankfully, there's been some things happen there. But regardless, that's where it is. Tamara and Chris right now. Years, right? Is seven for her and eight for him or something? Or is it eight and nine? I can't remember. I shouldn't hold that off top, man.

That's sad. But regardless, years. and then you just start watching all the people getting out and recommitting crimes and you're like wow this is a real trend and then you know it was just off of watching the news each week that we just started to see it over and over again you started to notice and then you noticed you know like the ethics violations how many of those play out in in Canadian politics or you know like the latest one on the $44,000 limo trip right for four days and you're like well that's been a trend it's like they don't care about money and how they're spending it

You have to get caught. $16 orange juice. Right. Yeah. And certainly the drivers has become something. We're seeing more and more semis do things that have, has there been semis run to overpasses? 100%.

My father and brothers run a trucking company. Like it happens. Like these things do happen. But you're starting to notice it happen more and more. The thing that I've noticed is semis trying to do a U-turn on major interstates, or I guess not interstates, highways in Canada. And I'm like, that I don't care what driver you are.

That's a terrible idea. And has it happened? I'm sure it has. But like we're talking about getting stuck and slowing down. You know, just both lanes of traffic. You're like, this is weird. This is strange. You got, you know, just all the protests happening now with all these different groups of people.

And that playing itself out in the major centers, you know, like it just seems to be picking up more and more. I'm curious if there's other trends you've seen. seen that you're like, you know, from military side or from just like troubling scenarios that Canada is seeing that you're, you're, those are all part of it. I mean, to go back to the trucking thing too, I can remember even from being a young kid to an adult a few years ago when I became an adult, um, big trucks on the highway were always the safest drivers. They were always that they were the one vehicle that you could depend on almost all of

them not to like run like to just be doing the right thing. And they probably were, you know, not getting enough sleep back then. They were probably doing all the things they needed to do to stay awake. And they were still driving like more safely than the average person on a highway. Everybody went by them said to two to, you know, I did it as a kid. My kids have done it as when they were little kids, you know, we even at the driver had wave and honk his horn. And those are all memories we all had growing up in this country, you know. not now you're lucky I'd stay as far the fuck away as I can from them now and this morning just reinforced it they all feel like a potential VBI AD like that that

that click this morning there was a first time it kind of clicked was when that thing almost took out like three cars going by it and then went back to the other lane and almost took out cars on that side and then I'm stuck behind it going yeah what am I going what am I going to do because I got to get around it but can I get around it it was that you know mindset and that Afghanistan or is like, is this car fucking with me? Or are we going to have to dust it? Or like, you know, this is now every truck in Canada, every major of these things.

You know, it just that's, maybe everybody else doesn't feel that way. I don't give you a shit. That's how I feel about it. Because it's killing people at a rapid rate. You talk about patterns of life and the things I notice, we're all noticing them right now. It's when people start to admit them to themselves, then they'll actually notice. They're seeing it. It's I have the advantage of having lived in and seen things where the contrast is rapid and violent or extreme.

And so those patterns of life become a survival mechanism. You don't see them. You don't live them. Here, I'm seeing them all as well. And part of it is the government overreach. I mean, there's that new online hate bill where basically they're going to could potentially throw you in jail for life for what they're doing in the UK. now is a perfect primary. Bill,

Bill C8. Yeah. You can see in the UK. So it's the new, and forgive me, folks, what was it? It's the new version of the bill they had before. It's online censorship. Yeah. And, you know, like, I'm listening to this conversation.

I'm like, well, I'd be shut down for this. You'd be gone. Yeah. That has been a real, I think, fear for a lot of. We'll be cellmates. Podcasters, people who. Independent media, period. If you're not parroting.

the North Korean Party line by one of these state funded groups or state funded media outlets, which they all are. I keep coming back to the Ron Wallace conversation. And I brought this up a lot lately. But it just, he was talking about infrastructure in Canada. Yeah. And they had the National Energy Board. And it was a group of experts.

And I always chuckled because I'm like experts. I know how I feel about that word these days. But what he was pointing out was once upon a time, they looked at anything, a pipeline across the country, you just take it. Railroad, I'm sure, anything else. And they looked at the economic feasibility. So they're looking at money. Now, can we, were there things they maybe should have done or maybe couldn't do or, you know, over the course 50 years? And I'm sure there's lots of things that they weighed the pros and cons of. And there was external influences on those experts to maybe not put pipelines across or maybe to, I don't know. And he said that the large change now with Bell C5 is it takes away any of those experts having any say and it puts it to the ministers. And so now the ministers are going to decide what's the national best interest. And he was pointing out, now you're back to an ideology-based system where if climate change is your number one priority, well then all of a sudden that overrides natural gas, oil and gas, energy. it goes back to wind, right?

We're seeing wind west out in, I think it's Nova Scotia, right, that big billion dollar project. And there will be more information, I assume, coming by the day on what that's going to be and trying to, you know, electrify and get away from some of the things. And you're like, and basically what he was saying is that they're not looking at the economics anymore. They're looking at what are the major issues we face this year? Well, you just got to tune into any key politician.

Climate change is going to. be in there. Ukraine, Russia is going to be in there. The trade war with the United States is Donald Trump, the biggest threat, is going to be in there. Those three seem to come to mind. I'm probably missing a few more. But if those are national interest, we're no longer worried about what's in the best interest of the country, which a lot of people would draw back to the economics of it. Is it going to make us more prosperous? Well, you brought up the ministers having that input. And they're, well, and the reason I bring it up with Bill. C5 is who are they going to give the power to, a minister.

Yeah. So now it's going to be another liberal looking at and, you know, it's just dissenting voices that are questioning them. Well, part of those dissenting voices are every band where that that pipeline has to go through is going to say no till they get their cut. You know, it's, it's always about that too. I mean, you can't get anything moved without that, which is, I think the fatigue for that has, has now boiled or is boiling as.

well like everybody's everybody that I talk to and I'm going to use the word fatigue a lot because I see it a lot and it kind of aptly describes my state of being when I'm just seeing it for the umpteenth time I no longer give a viscous shit about it I just do not you know we want to go back 30 40 50 100 years about some issue I'll blame every Japanese kid that wears anime outfits then for Pearl Harbor How's that sound? You know, like, I didn't do it. My kids didn't do it.

My fucking forefathers didn't do it. So let's get over it and move forward. And if you don't want to, fuck off, you know, like really. At this point, we need to move the fuck forward. This reconciliation thing, we've been reconciling to the tune of about $40 billion a year for what. I don't mean to sound harsh. I'm going to sound harsh anyway.

I don't give a shit. A lot of these places, a lot of these bands don't even have, you know, potable water apparently. I believe it. I've been to a few of them. I believe it. Every village in Afghanistan that I went to managed a well, you know, to my knowledge, we have well drilling companies in this country, a lot of them. Contract a couple of them because we did it over there.

Some village. Yeah, but you're entering in common sense. What I see out of the indigenous First Nations, and maybe I'm oversimplifying, it's kind of like climate change. It's become this area where a ton of money goes. Oh, yeah. And there's no transparency on where it goes. And it's a very uncomfortable topic for people to talk about, which makes finding out where it's going and how it's, you know. Oh, you're a noticer if you're asking where the money went.

Right. So, so. Well, we know where it stopped. It's like anything in the government. It stops at their first level. And you get First Nations people now starting to raise their brow of like, wait a second, something's off here. But they'll distract them and they are with the graves. No, or they'll silence them.

The graves. I'm air quoting. Or they'll silence them. I think of Jennifer Laywitz getting removed from the Métis Nation meetings in Saskatchewan for asking questions. And then they removed a bunch of representatives from those meetings as well. What's her name? Is that the one I'm thinking of? She's on Twitter and they're shutting her down pretty hard because she's asking questions.

Well, Jennifer L on Twitter. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. She was just on here a couple weeks ago. Yeah, very smart lady. Yeah, and she's asking questions. And for that, and so you're seeing the same playbook happen all over these places. Large amounts of money going into what we deem as like this needs to happen. Okay, billions.

$40 billion a year, roughly. And then when you try and ask questions, well, you can't be a white guy and ask questions. That's really weird, right? And you can't, you can't. So then Jennifer. for L is not, right, tree holder or tree card holder, however you say that. And now they're silencing her for asking the questions. And then there's people within the May 18 Nation who are representatives of people in the

May 18 Nation and they've removed them for being harassment and hurtful and all the things. And so it's interesting because one of the trends I see is more and more people across the board becoming disgruntled at how the things are going. Because why? Why? You go to the store and you notice it. cost of living is going up. My kids who are 30 and 31 notice about every few months the cost of something because

they do a lot of the groceries in the house. And they'll notice, especially when it's their money and not my card, they'll notice like, that thing of eggs was only X six months ago. And it was this a year ago. And now it's this. And we've said this before on here on your show. I used to, we all used to see people with a heaping cart and it might have been a 120 bucks, 130 bucks.

This has went on for years. We all saw, you know, I could go, you could go to the regular store and keep that cart. You can put name brand shit in there and still come out at 100 bucks, 150 bucks, whatever, for a heaping cart. You go through with a little green or blue basket now. You're at 80 bucks, no problem. Well, I just think of our family. It's 300 bucks and you, you, you don't come home with a whole lot.

With a whole lot. Yeah. Heaven forbid you're getting toilet paper or some big. What's the old saying nobody moves from a place of comfort and what I see is more and more people becoming disgruntled because why? Well, the cost of living, you know, is astronomical. Right. And and the cost to buy your first house or to build a house or to build anything. My kids make. So at their age, they're making way more money than I made at that age. And I afforded I could afford on an army wage, which was shit back then. I could afford a home, scrimping in saving and tight belts and eating no name craft dinner a lot and hot dogs. We could do it. There is no way my kids can do it. With decent paying jobs, there's just no way they can do it.

Not in today's economy. Your kids that, you know, they're a generation behind, I don't know how they're going to do. I just don't know, buddy. I do not know. You know, short of an inheritance or short of the parents doing it all for them. them, you know, and I'm financially secure-ish, but I couldn't, I can't just plump them a spare house. I'm not that, I'm not a boomer who's got like four of these things lined up and three on

the lake, you know, I'm not that guy either. Back in the 80s, you can buy a house for $7 and some bottles. Like, it's, you know, home with my interest rate was 20, yeah, it was your, your interest rate was like fucking in the teens for five minutes, buds, like give it up. Like, give it up. My first house in. 98, 99. My first mortgage rate was astronomical too.

It was like 9, 10, 11%. And then they dropped. That's what they do. You know, hopefully we don't go back to that height again. But you talk about catalysts and trends and patterns of life and all that stuff. The online hate bill, that's a big one. Because you could, all you have to do is look at the UK right now. They're going into your home for a post.

And we're not talking like. Oh, they arrested the person from saying Muppet. Several people for saying, several things in that vein, something humorous, something that would definitely have me chucked away probably. That's coming here. That's coming here. That's coming to parts of Canada. Yeah.

Well, I don't know. Actually, no, I shouldn't say it that way because, you know, when I read the bill, it'd be like telecommunications. So you're talking Rogers Bell and who are we kidding? They're going to, they're going to pick on certain individuals that have. different platforms and one of the things you will get from being in Alberta is probably Daniel Smith I would think saying we're not going to enforce this is going to be my guess but at the same token you know it goes back to my conversation with Rod Giltaka on the gun grab although Alberta doesn't enforce it you have a house fire and they find guns you

didn't return you're a criminal right just go to the simplest things so it's it's there's a lot of concerning things these days All of those should concern people. And even if you're not a gun owner or believe in. Actually, the way you come in today is another little pattern of life for me. I'm hot right now. You're hot right now, which is. It's not, it's interesting to me, Chuck, because normally you come in and you're pretty jovial, right?

Even in, even in with all. I'm still fucking funny. But no, I know. I can normally brush it off or make light of it. And I just, it's a cascade recently. And I think every, everybody that I interact. with either online or in person is feeling it too and I think that that general and these ostrich this ostrich moment has just kind of put a big magnifier on how we're all

feeling you know starting going back to when I'm not trying to leap from ostriches to Charlie Kirk but you know again the same buddy of mine who talked about Ontario liberal conservatives being an Alberta liberal you know he's he's very deep in his faith he he great guy fantastic guy to work with a very good human unlike myself he's a good human genuinely and it hit him hit it all of us hard and it hit us all hard about when Charlie Kirk got shot killed assassinated by the trans Tifa left you know some furry dude whatever the hell he is whatever thing it is um and I couldn't put a finger and I was

hitting everybody hard that I talked to I couldn't put a thing like a lot of people get assassinated a lot of big names get taken out and hurt or what it was killed it never doesn't bother me it has never really you know i didn't know them fuck what do i you know oh that sucks or whatever um and when they went after trump i kind of had a little you know like that would have sparked say what you will that would have sparked it that would have been you know we would have seen full on go i'm damn near sure um this wasn't going to spark that but what it did was and my friend said this he was of us he was the moderate normal dude having conversations with faith he goes I've got

faith I'm it goes not like I'm running around slapping with the Bible but I have a lot of faith I like to have normal conversations I just want a traditional way of life live and let live I'm that guy and I'm like that's it he was the normal guy yeah he was outspoken and fearless in his own way for doing what he was doing had to be absolutely faith driven genuine by all accounts anybody that noom has nothing but genuine things to say about him and they took him out and then mocked it now luckily there's been some justice served on them those that have mocked them in their own carmetic ways but um that's a pattern of life that is a pattern of life right there i'm not saying he's francis ferdin and spark in world war one

here but he's a catalyst for something. Um, the grabbing the guns, they only sent me to countries where that had happened already. And guess what happens when, you know, a military force walks in and you don't have any way to defend yourself? Bosnia, I use as a microcosm for a lot of things. They'd had their guns taken away or weren't allowed to have them in the first place, I guess initially. Um, although damn near a, a good chunk of this population had them hidden away for this reason and those that didn't quickly broken into armories when the things fractured

and if you didn't have one you're getting popped and put in a ditch if you didn't if you weren't already in a ethnically majority town of whatever side you were on and it broke like that like i mean it was quick and people need to realize something too and i'm not speaking trying to speak with too much hyperbole here again. If and when something does happen. And I don't know what that thing looks like. I don't know if 2032, although I would say we're,

I hate to put a firm date on things because you're going to be wrong. Yeah, the only reason I bring up 2032 is, his computer said so, yeah. Is Armstrong's talked about it an awful lot. Yeah. And every year we,

every day we step a little closer and something else happens. I'm like, I would say he's probably not far off the mark or his computer is. I would say that we are, but it could happen early. For sure, it could. And what people need to understand is you're going to have a completely normal day one day and the next day might be the loudest, noisiest, most chaotic moment that stretches for years.

That, that moment will stretch for years or it could. And that's on the horizon. It's really on the horizon. These moments that we're experienced in this country right now and we're seeing, around the world on top of it all that it's not like we can look around the world and go oh at least there's this one spot that's all sort of fucking normal can't point to one you know the u.s is trying to make some headway they can only do that because they have a trump who does not give a shit and it looks like vance is going to be trump 2.0 when he takes over like they might

write their ship maybe maybe they're there looks like they're at least trying to we don't have that we have sort of that kind of here with under Daniel Smith and the west you know Saskatchewan as well but I don't see it happening no I don't see us fix in this country whatsoever it's been it's been so fractured so broken for so long with a different set of values and I know if you're in the eastern you're like well I have these values too yeah I know I know I know a lot of you do especially if you're listening to the show I get it and you're you know if you can get on the lifeboat out here if you can I When it comes to one day being normal, the next day being the loudest and it goes for years,

maybe I'm wrong on this. Maybe you can put me push back against this. When I look at the world right now, the place I see that is England. Oh, yeah. Like, I just think they are, I don't know. They're teetering on the. It feels like it, right? Like, you know, the recent, if you don't have a digital ID, you don't get to work.

You know, and then the signatures coming out against that saying we, do not want this, even some pushback from their media with Kier Starmor saying, you know, like, you know, how is this going to affect what's happening in our country? And then you just look at the long list of things that have been going on in their country. The reason so many dystopian type films are based in England or filmed in England, like with an English, um, texture or flavor is because, possibly because of the island mentality anyway. Um, but it's always been on the cusp there. You know, it's always kind of been talked about there.

They're, they're, I mean, they're an old, old civilization. They've always kind of danced around these ideas. And now we're seeing at this last two generations or so really start to get to where it is now. And we're, I mean, I kind of catch myself laughing like, holy fuck, thank God. I didn't post that in England. And I'm like, wait, they're going to do that to us here. Um, they are doing that to us here.

They're going to do that to us here unless you're waving, you know, some fucked up flag from some shit hole, which is perfectly okay, I guess, you know, waving our own flag, which, you know, I'll be, I'm sad to say it doesn't seem to mean anything anymore. It, it, the pattern of life for this country that I'm watching and everything that's happening, people should be. as much as they can, preparing their family to be as safe as they can and ready as they can for a catalyst of some sort. Yeah, I, I, um,

where there's gold and silver food. When, when, when we, when we, when we go down these prepper rabbit holes, right? The thing that, um, the thing that I come back, you can't live in fear. It's like, you can't. You can't. You, you can just do little things that make you a little more,

comfortable you used to say pick up something heavy right just put it down again yeah yeah and just get a little better in shape start to you know learn a couple skills that doesn't you know well well if you're just shitty tomorrow than you are today if if it doesn't ever happen you're still good better for knowing well everybody's got house insurance car insurance life insurance and they do that partially because a you have to but two because if something happens well you've got a a course right you have a fix that's how I look at anything I do as far as prepping goes I don't like to ever get it too far deep into that.

But anything I've done and do continue to do, whether it's skill set, keeping them sharp, or whether it's physical things like this or food or other items, it may never come to pass. Yeah, but, but if I do realistically, I don't know if like Serbia, not Serbia, sorry, Bosnia, Bosnia, Bosnia, Serbia. Bosnia happens here. There is a Serbia, but yeah. Yeah, yeah, I agree. It's like, what are the things you can look at and the trends that are happening right now?

and what the federal government is talking about, what are the trends we can see they're going to probably play out over the next year. Is the cost of living going to go down? No. If the cost of living goes up, what will be the after effects of that? I would say crime's going to go up.

Crime is going up. Correct. Crime is going up. And it's part of the problem. And when people get desperate, they turn to probably, I'm not saying everybody, but they're going to try and,

you know, like the food banks are going to be hit by more people. We've already seen, that pretty much everywhere in the country. The food bank use has gone up. Skyrocketed. Right? So you go, when you get to a point and you can't afford to live in your house or pay for groceries

or on and on and on, what's going to happen? Well, civil unrest. Civil unrest to me is one of those words. Well, what does that mean? Well, it means crimes probably going up. The unemployment rate's going up. There's a whole bunch of things happening. You're talking about shuttering of jobs.

and when people get desperate, they do desperate things. They do desperate things, which means are we going to have full on Bosnia? I don't know. I don't think so, but that doesn't mean I'm right. It just means...

They didn't think so either. True enough. They hosted, like I've said before, they hosted the Olympics a few short years earlier. I hope it doesn't get to that level of spice. I really don't because it was bad. It was very, very bad. but look, I don't see a fix either.

So I always go to size of a country, okay? The reason why, and maybe you can poke holes in this, Canada is a giant country. So when you're talking about the UK, it's like, you know, the full UK, I think is the size. I think it just spit out like Manitoba. So not all of Kant, we're talking. And if you go to some parts of it, it gets even smaller than that.

When you look at Bosnia, it says Bosnia is approximately, what does it say Bosnia is about one-fifth the size of the UK and roughly equivalent to the US state of Kentucky Is that the Bosnia with the map lines today or back then? It doesn't matter. It's smaller places. Regardless, even if you expand it,

all I'm saying is when you have a ton of people cramped into a small area, I look at it and I go, you know, what are people saying in Canada, get out of the cities? Where there's a ton of people, you're going to have tons of problems. That's why you're seeing a mass exodus of people trying to get out of the cities and just remove themselves from some of the problems

because we're seeing lots of the problems where all the people are. All the drugs and crime and honestly murders and on and on and on it goes. All of it, yeah. And one of the things Canada has over any of these countries we're talking about is size. We just have a mass amount of space.

It doesn't mean it makes it easier. Cost of living wise, right? Our cost of living is insane. But you have space. I mean, you have space, you have room, and it's just harder to do, I think, I could be wrong because maybe you can point to some other country and be like, well, actually, back then and it'll put me right in my place and I'm sure somebody's going to.

No, you're not wrong. And that is one of the reasons why the, um, the kettle doesn't reach a boiling point here like it does in some places. You're, you're absolutely right. Uh, the size of things here. And us, nor us, maybe, I don't know what we're old stock Canadians to borrow that. Are leaving cities in the numbers we are. But all that does is kick it down the road.

I mean, I don't have to look at it now. I don't have to see this shit every day. You know, passed out drug down on our streets or the crime going on or the potential for my kids to get robbed, beaten or worse, you know. So it does give you an a valve to let off pressure. It does. The other side of that that you brought up as well is it doesn't alleviate the cost of anything. No, it doesn't. Our infrastructure is.

already broken and I'm talking hospital, uh, crime response times. I mean, one of the reasons they're letting these yokels back out to all. There's a couple reasons. One judges have basically become woke. Oh,

part of an ideology. An ideology. And I saw it firsthand when I worked in corrections. Um, you know, my last year in there was working in the video court system side of it. And you'd see it every day with the majority of the judges would be like, oh, oh, oh. And then the inmate would go back.

out after getting like a nothing like getting a you time served for your crime or kicked out on a bail even though you've had like you're out you're in here and you beach five bales you're like oh and he'd go back high five all his bros and go right back on the street and do it again part of the reason is they're not building enough jails we don't have enough infrastructure infrastructure to house them all part of that problem is getting rid of the loony bins now a good segment of the popular in prison is legit nuts. And I mean is violently crazy. And that's a large part of what you're doing,

depending where you're working in the jail is dealing with fucking crazy criminals like real crazy. I'm not talking like a bad dude like violently crazy. So they gotta be housed somewhere and we don't have that infrastructure because it's, you know, we don't, there's no good way of doing that. There's no good way where everybody's gonna be happy doing it. So we'll just put them back on the street to do what they're doing again. And again.

again and again the other criminals that we've seen time and time again or is unless you're tamera or chris you know you know or the coots boys these guys are getting getting right back out the same day on a pta or like bailed out on nothing and they're in for like attempted murder it's it's gross and so when people like you and me and the others out there listening see this it discourages us And the worst is, when you have great employees in the company, the worst thing you can do them is keep a shitty employee. Because then they just look at that shitty employee and go, well, they don't do nothing on time. They don't turn in good work. They don't output anything.

They smell funny and they fucking, you know, they're always doing weird stuff and eating all of our food. Why on earth would I not do that and still get paid the same? So you want to turn good citizens into shitty citizens real quick? You keep doing what you're doing, because this is the best way to do it. Do I think we're going to get spicy? I don't know. I hope not. There's no way of predicting that until it actually comes to pass and happens.

You can see in the UK now that fucking kettle is percolating. And one of those moments that really got it percolating was those two Scottish girls were getting basically assaulted by a new Scottish person. And the one pulled out a blade and a hatchet and, you know, in her little Scottish voice was like calling like, get the fuck away from me. And that galvanized the, them like enough.

If our 12 year old girls, they've got a, you know, and we all think, well, those poor UK people with that, the problems they've got with the grooming. You think that's not happening here. They're busting it left and right. They're doing the same thing here. They're busting it left and right.

None of that behavior changed because we have snow here, you know, and syrup. Like none of that changed. in their behavior. None of it. It's just here now on mass and everybody's noticing it and you're going to get labeled for noticing it. But don't worry about that label. They're going to boot you off the internet pretty soon.

You won't be able to do nothing about it and that's and then maybe go to jail for the rest of your life because you noticed it. You're going to be able to defend yourself because they're trying to get your guns. Because you noticed it. Conservatives aren't coming to save us. Pierre, who I had a lot of faith in, at least if he got in, he could reverse things. He's not going to get in. He's the Diet Coke of Trump. He's Trumpish when he wants to be witty and hold an apple.

And he's a witty guy. He's a smart fucking guy. I think he's a good guy at heart. But he's not enough. And unfortunately, the person that you need to be enough is going to be an asshole. and it's going to be an asshole much smarter than me who's already politically in there somewhere and it'll be when and I'm not talking about Mad Max either that guy's fucking you know talking about muppets that grifting muppet anyway it's going to be some unknown entity who will hop in

this is how it plays in Chuck's head and maybe there's a chance but not for Canada Canada's done people were holding on to some some echo of what we once were you know listening to fucking gordon lightfoot or you know some old-timey music where you're like oh i remember cbc hockey night and canada on saturday night in canada i spent my career early career in the army when we're in the field tuning in our radios that could pick up cbc listening to the hockey game and we all rallied around that the fucking operation would basically the exercise would kind of sort of stop oh the fucking hockey games on us listen to this everybody did it you know those memories you know that's done that's over people are going to hold on to that like hold on to a shitty

relationship that's what this is now we the west in order to survive need to excise the rest of this parasitic part of the country off of our asses so that we can push forward when we're in look Chuck you can fuck it we'll build a guess we're right next to montana here. We'll just build a fucking pipeline down to there all over the place. We'll, we'll ship. You know what? We separate from those for Canada. We'll pay you a stipend now to send our oil through. You don't want to do that. We'll go to the other coast. Don't want to do that. We'll go north. We'll go south. Don't give a shit. We'll fly it. I don't care. We'll get, we'll get our oil to market because the rest of this country seems hell bent on stopping it. Well, you Eastern bastards

will freeze in the dark because that's what's coming. when you stop all of our oil, and if these oil companies aren't prospering or progress, prosper is not the right word. They're all making money. But they base everything like any company on the growth. And when you're not growing, you're shrinking. So these guys are, well, we're downsizing because we're not growing. We've got to maintain our level of money in our pocket.

It's what every company does. They just do it on a exponentially higher scale. It's funny. I feel like I went through. stage of Chuck where I was like super angry, super disappointed, you know, all the things. And then like three weeks ago, maybe four weeks ago on the mashup, I just started laughing at everything. And I told twos when we're done, I'm like, man, I had so much fun today. And I don't know what changed to me. It's like I just got over the fact that we, like, we're going

to see this, is it another year of this? Is it another five years of this? I don't know. Can it get a lot worse? Oh, it certainly can. Oh, it is. Yeah. You know? But I'm like, it's so ridiculous at this point. I'm just one guy. And until the population has had enough, right? All I can do is bring people on and talk about the stories, but I can't personalize it so much of like we can go and shock the federal government

into doing ones right when we're just seeing it play out over and over and over again and more voices are talking about. We've never had, I don't think, in my lifetime, we've had as many, independent, doing wonderful things, pointing out the hypocrisy and everything else of what's going on in our systems. And nothing seems to be happening. Nothing.

And I'm like, so we're just going to point it out. We're going to laugh at it. We're going to poke fun of it. We're going to try and have some fun of it. Because on the flip side, you know, Cornerstone Forum's coming up March 28th, 2026. Okay? So mark that on your calendar, folks.

and that community that comes together for that is people that are wonderful that are trying to make sense of a world that is making less and less sense by the day trying to put things into their life that will benefit them and their kids for the coming years and understanding that we're in like

man if we're a boat we're sitting in a in a big old storm right now and you can give up or you can batten down the hatches and chart a course you know and listen to the people that are talking directly to it. And if the rest of the world doesn't want to listen to it, that's fine.

But we're going to listen and we're going to aim for there. We're going to get to a safe point. We're going to find safe harbor. We're going to sit in it and we're going to watch the craziness because it's coming. It's already here. It's here. And is it going to get worse? Yes.

And is it going to turn into spicy? You know, is it going to get spicy? One, some sense it already has. On some level, it's... Now. Has that become Connecticut in Canada? No. No.

No. And hopefully it never does. I hope it doesn't either. But signs of the rest of the world, they're certainly trying to make it kinetic in Russia, Ukraine. They're certainly trying to drive, you know, the Article 4 invoked by Poland, I believe, a few weeks ago, that basically gets everybody into a meeting. It's not Article 5, which would demand. You know, we're going to war because they made an attack on us, right? So everybody's staring, I think, more fervently than ever for where is going to be the false flag.

And then Charlie Kirk got shot. Yeah. And you go, is that Franz Ferdinand? I don't know. Did it, like, but did it closer? Did it push us closer? It pushed us closer. 100%.

You know, when had Vanne here last week and he's a guy that, you know, what do he say? I always say, we got to talk things up. And now he goes, I don't know if I should recommend that anymore. That's a, that's a, from a guy who I would say is closer to center than me, It's a pretty wild thing to hear. You know, where do you put that? Because of the fatigue. You can only observe these patterns for so long.

You can only attempt that conversation for so long before there aren't any more talking solutions. Now, once things have gone kinetic, well, but Chuck, you would say about this piece in Ukraine. Well, things have already gone kinetic there. They've been horribly kinetic there for a couple years. Well, it's more than a couple now. Now it's like three. Three plus. Yeah.

There comes a point when that now that you've been kinetic, it's like getting in a hockey fight. You shake hands after typically, unless the guy's a real slew footer or some shit. You know, you generally at the end of the game, you're still shaking the guy's hand. Like, hey, good tilly, you know, like, that's the way it goes. I'm not saying you've got to shake hands after the war, but at a certain point. Well, this is, this isn't a fight. This is what you're, what you're outlining is a line brawl or even more. I've been in one, a bench clearing brawl.

Where I assume hockey players today, I have no idea what the hell I'm talking about. But to the older generation, they've probably been a part of one or seen one. And when a full-on bench-clearing brawl happens, it is usually tensions rise to get to a fever pitch. And one fight breaks out, not the end of the world. But something happens that all. all of a sudden, the refs can't stop it. And then you have 20 guys fighting 20 guys, and the only thing that stopped it is everybody tires out.

Everybody gets exhausted. You've been labeled with six off the face, and you've labeled another guy with six off the face, you've fought three different dudes, you've got nothing left. You're exhausted. And at the end, everybody just kind of goes to their side, and the refs just right and fervently, and he's trying to pull out the most vulnerable, right?

He's like, holy crap, this guy's getting pummeled by three guys. and he yanks a couple guys off. But before he can yank a couple, the other teammate comes and jumps in. And eventually the refs just go stand back because there's nothing they could do. No. There's too many people fighting.

And you think about it from that analogy, when it begins, if it ever were to begin, that's the way the police would be. There'd be nothing they could do. No. And it would just play itself out to where people are just tired and they just want things to go back. And because the next time we played that team,

that didn't happen, right? Like it starts almost back. That's the, the shake the hand. And we still hate them and we still want to beat them, but you got a hockey game to play. And when you're talking about things popping off, it's like when it happens,

if it ever does in any country, there will be no stopping it because it'll be a landslide overnight. It'll be a landslide. And once you get people going like that, there's no putting that back in the box. No, everybody's got that, everybody's got that amount,

right, that amount of bullshit fatigue, noticing they can fill them, up with before it, it boils, you know, you see, you're starting to see it percolate heavy in the UK, some other spots. You're starting to see it percolate here. You know, you're starting to see pushback that I've never seen before in this country. Really? When you come back to Canada, you say online. Online. You're starting to see it, which is probably why, probably, and I'm, even in my own personal interactions with people that I'm in personal, like, face-to-face life,

people that were centered, you know, very centered. Oh, this is. good for this side. You know, I understand this. Those people are now like fucking, if there was a deport button here, I'd be smashing it with a brick. You know, if there was a this to, like, they're just, they have now noticed. They have now, they have now, I can't afford this. My kids can't afford that. My kids aren't safe. I can't defend myself in my own home. You know, and I'm not talking gun owner people. I'm talking like, I've got a baseball bat my bad. Okay, well, good for you. hopefully he doesn't have an automatic baseball bat when he breaks in your house, you know. But these people now in my life that I'm friends with are like, I, if I'm, I'm going to get

more trouble than the guy that broke in. Like they're, they're seeing this not once or twice play out like some, some errant judge. They're seeing this as the norm. And they're like, that, that's not what I want. Or they have taken their kid to the hospital and they waited for 12 hours to get seen for like struck throat or something, you know. In what world is in a first world country? Is that the way it is?

And then they tell me what they saw in the waiting room. Like, well, that's why you're waiting 12 hours. You noticed. So. It's becoming harder and harder for the everyday average person not to see it impacting their life. It's happening everywhere, whether we're talking finance. Yes. Or whether, you know, like I pointed, we went to Sylvan Lake this summer.

And I was in Sylvan Lake probably 20 years ago, roughly. And I remember. You know, it's got a lovely beach, beautiful, right? I think of it as one of the probably tourist attractions of Alberta, like Silver Lakes and a nice open lake. And 20 years ago, I would say if there was 1,000 people on the beach, 950 of them are white. Just Sean's brain the way he recollects it. We were there this summer, and we were the 50 white. It was nine, it wasn't bad.

It wasn't like anybody was aggressive or anything. That's not what I'm trying to point out. All I'm pointing out is at Silver Lake, if that is like the big tourist destination for summer in Alberta that isn't the mountains, you could walk down that it was crazy to me. I'm like, wow, look at this. It was seriously, it was kind of cool. You're getting like some Indian food and then you go over and there's some Thailand set up, you know, and on and on Vietnamese, all these. But it was wild. It was beyond wild.

I was like, this is strange. Like for Alberta, the number one, or close to the number one lake in Alberta, I think. Yeah, I think so. You know, like, I think everybody knows Sylvan Lake. And it was, if there was a hundred out of a thousand, I'd be surprised. It was pretty wild to walk down and just see it.

I was just like, this is, huh, where does everybody else go on? I, you know, because like, they're just not going anymore. I guess they're not going anymore. I don't, I don't know. that's just a visual of just my eyes seeing things change everybody's eyes are seeing you go through them all and you just see it you yeah you know we're in west ed this past weekend and you noticed it just like there it is and for my own does that mean they're all evil people no no that's ridiculous i'm not saying that either however there was no merit based system to getting them here either

there just wasn't there was a tfW program and a few other programs and let's bring three point something million of them over in short order and dump them into the workforce where they get preference over jobs. And as people learn more and more about, you know, the cost of living and the cost of things, cost of life being difficult and then learning about how some of them are subsidized with housing and to the tune of 82 grand a year. Like that's a tough pill to swallow. Dude. You know a lot of Canadians making 82 grand a year because I sure shit don't. I sure don't. And that's, I don't think they're getting taxed on that 82K they're getting. What's, what's the 82K?

So they've got some leaked documents of, uh, new Canadians in Niagara Falls being put up in hotels who are getting X amount for food a day, X amount per kid per day, X amount per for the room and board, X amount for whatever. It's like when you work for a company, you go on a little trip somewhere and they give you your little, you know, whatever that was called stipend or whatever it was to go away for a bit. They're getting that to the tune of 82k a year. So they're living large. They can afford like you're living large on that. You're living larger than any Canadian is right now, unless you're a boomer, you know, which is another word for Muppet. But look, I don't think

they're all bad people either. However, I've noticed enough of the bad, of the bad ones to be smashing the deport button real quick, real quick. Real quick. And then we can start over and be like, merit based. Let's, let's bring in 50,000 people a year who have a trade or technical. Doctors. We're missing because right now we're not, you know what, we're not bringing over a lot of doctors and engineers. Well, if we are, the doctors that I've seen come to this area, it's like they're, they're open for a day of new patients and they're full so fast. Like, it's, it's wild.

Yeah. Family physician, that said. Good luck. Yeah. The hospitals, good luck, right? Like, there's just more and more stories of the wait times. And me and two is, once again, on the mashup. That's another trend you saw, people dying in the waiting.

Yeah. And you're just like, this is only going to get worse because the problem isn't being addressed. It's actually being added to, right? So there's, you know, when you come back to the patterns of life, I'm always interested when we sit down, you know, because of what you see. And you are a good gauge. Me, you're kind of like a, what is that, a bell, a bell, bell weather, right? Kind of moderate.

I'm like, too, is, or two is, Chuck is fired up today. Chuck sees, um, because I've, the culmination of where things are heading. And I'm angry, I'm as angry at that that I'm able to, and I could be wrong. I'm no amazing Crescan, but I can see the patterns happening. Yeah, but you speak, you speak for a segment of the population, you know, like, I've, uh, By sitting in this chair, it's just like, I'm closing in a thousand podcast, John. Like, it's, it's kind of shocking to me because, you know, you just, it's kind of, when you add discipline to your life and you just start consistently, you know, like, it doesn't

feel like I've done a thousand. I don't think there's any, well, I mean, I think it's a pretty cool mark to get by. Yeah. But, you know, like, I just keep going and you just keep, and one day it'll be 12, or whatever, right? You know, if I keep on with this. So talking to people who are being screwed by the government or screwed by other human beings or on and on and on, that did a number on me for a while because I just got so frustrated,

but I'm the one, you know, Jordan Peterson got interviewed by a lady and she basically asked like, why aren't other people seeing this? Or why aren't, she's like, well, you're kind of the tip of the spear. You're the one who's going to see a lot of it because you're digging into it. Yeah. And so I've thought about that for a while. I'm like, yeah, that makes sense. And so like, I've started to remove myself more and more from social media because I just, I don't need to be, I don't need to be, um, worked up and angry.

And I find, you know, what do we engage with the most? It's like, well, things that get you fired up and can you believe this? This is unbelievable. I probably peruse it now for about five, 10 minutes a day and then I have to like, I'll post a shitty. I'll post like a Chuck shitty meme or something like just a but like the liberal government doing bill a C8 or C5 or all these Cs and you're like all the stupid stuff going on yeah what did we expect was going to happen we got the liberals back in did we all of a sudden think they're just going to change and not do try and put in the same stupid crap yeah no we I think we could all agree so it shouldn't shock

us it doesn't mean you should not do anything about it but it's like yeah it's a They're going to keep trying to do these things until they get them through. And then when they get them through, they're going to continue to push even further. And they're going to continue to call us all names. And they're going to continue to label us and point out things and try and frame it in a way that this is life for the rest of my life. And this is not what I went to war for. And I don't mean to say that like, oh, I'm entitled to anything extra. I'm not.

Me doing what I did. No, but you're in a, I tell you this all the time, you're a certain segment of this population that has a very, very unique perspective. It feels. It feels to me, and I, when I heard Mike Rood say it too, like I did not go to fucking war to come back for this to my country to turn into this. And I sure shit didn't. Like, no.

No. No. That, that nostalgic, you know, everybody has the happy memories of what we kind of were before. You know, that's gone. it's gone and it ain't coming back and there's no fixing it there isn't a fix to bring it back because it's not going to be a political fix and i hate saying that because it sounds you know cryptically apocalyptic or something like that i'm not trying to be that guy either i'm not trying to enhance the spice that could potentially have not at all but if somebody has

a way of whoa chuck we got to get into the ground roots and do it at the ground roots i get that too I get that too. But that isn't going to work against the machine that's going to out get you kicked off the internet for posting a meme. Has billions of dollars at its exposal, legal counsel, all the things. Your ground roots work in your community is absolutely necessary, but is not going to have any effect whatsoever on the bigger picture. That means how much you're paying for groceries, gas, the freedoms that you get to have or don't have. That's not going to have any effect. I've been using, or this is the way my brain's been thinking about things lately.

Having young kids, every single day, they push on the boundaries. Every single day. And they find new ones to push on, and you're like, what are you doing? Mine are in their 30s and they push. So you have your lines as a parent, right? And if you give an inch, they take a mile. So then you're like, nope, that is a boundary. No, we're not doing that.

And to me, society and maybe the government currently, reminds me of a kid, they're going to keep pushing against their boundaries until we draw a line in the sand and we say no. No more. This is ridiculous. And when you go back to what the U.S. did and their founding fathers, I feel like they put really good lines in the sand. Very good language in that. Did they get it perfect? No, I'm sure, you know, when you listen to Charlie Kirk talk about it, it's like, yeah, you know, there's things we could readdress with the lines drawn.

but our lines are are a moving target rate now and so what you see happening is is the lines being constantly shifted and moved in the you know like the arguments being made and it's like no we just have to put the lines in the sand folks and if you put that when they push on it it's like no we don't go past her but they find a reason and the they constantly construct different ways to get around the convoy was one where we pushed back the the the aware part of the nation pushing back. They did push back and then what happened. Well, we all know what happened. I don't have to go into that. Well, anytime you push back against the machine, the likely outcome of it is that you're

going to face a harsh reaction from the machine which will not make sense compared to anyone else but it's a statement. And so if you stand up to said government, chances are you're going to face the wrath of said government, especially, especially, especially, you're, if you're successful. That is the trucker convoy. Yeah. So they picked out certain people and there they are. Yeah.

And if you take any standing up to the government on anything, take this, you know, censorship bill. If it comes and I go, I'm just not going along with it. The likely outcome of that is going to be the worst thing they can do to me to make a statement. Yeah. And once again, they'll do that to not just one person. They'll pick on probably. The bulk of you.

We go on. Right. And the person who pushes the hardest against it, they'll try and silence the most. That's the likely outcome. And so you just go, there's no day in the future where all of a sudden you snap fingers and everything goes back to being just, I don't even know what perfectly right means. You know, I just think of freedom of speech. I think it's just leaving me alone.

I think of a lot of different conservative. A time when we didn't even have the discussion about freedom of speech in this country because it was never a threat on our horizon or them coming and taking our guns. because it was never a threat on a horizon. These are, we're in those threat periods now. We're in that threat queue. We're in that fatal funnel going in the door. And there it is.

They're taking it from us. They are actively trying to do it. And I don't see anybody stopping it. And it goes back to this ad hoc constitutional monarchist bullshit thrown together government. Well, we fell apart from the British thing. So we're going to pull a little from there. And oh, the Americans. had a couple things and the Greeks had a couple things and look at what we put together.

No, that's like a really fucked up stew that does is not going to work in the long term because precisely we have different values across this country. We always have they're just more. They're becoming more pronounced by the day. They're becoming more pronounced and enhanced I think on top of being that people people are really digging in now where they stand really going to dig in and I'll say it again. That memory, that faint, nostalgic echo of what we were as a nation, I miss it too. I went to war for it because I thought it was important enough to try and defend and do all the greasy things I did and saw over there and giggled while I did it because I thought,

hey, the country asked me to come over and do some stuff. No problem. And here we are now. No. My country ends at the end of my fucking driveway. Alberta and Saskatchewan hopefully find a path forward with, No spice, just legal nice. And we go on about our way, become the richest country in the fucking world,

a republic, whatever you want to call us. And we get away from this mess because this mess is sinking us all. You talked about a lifeboat earlier, a ship in the middle of the storm. I'd be tying people to fucking bricks and toss them over at this point if I was stuck on this boat with them because they're sinking us all. We aren't going to make that safe port, not in the condition we're going. seen enough patterns of life to know some are going to make it and some ain't and i don't mean that in like a terminal sense i mean people are going to go to those hard decision points when they

can no longer feed their families when they can no longer be employed and have i'm not talking to i get to go to vacation to mexico twice here i'm talking they can't afford to keep their vehicle they can't afford anything they're kicked out of where they are because the bank repoted or their landlord kicked them out we are in the that period of the game right now. When we get to the line clearing bench brawl, we'll see what happens if it gets to that point. Very, very soon,

I think we're going to get to that percolating kettle explosion. That's just me. I hope it doesn't, but I don't see any way that it doesn't. The other me, the me, the jovial me before could always be like, well, you know, I think Pierre could fix it. exist. I always put my, my, well, you know, this could happen. Those could happens and might happens and hopes. No, no. And I'm not a doom and gloom kind of guy at any point generally. All I'm saying is I'm preparing and have been preparing and more earnestly preparing now

for whatever is on the horizon. I don't know what that is, but it ain't good. Well, speaking of maybe a lighter note to end on. October 25th is Profit Rivers Customer Appreciation Day and Rod Gilta is going to be in town for that and then the following day, October 26th, I wish I had all the details, but regardless there's going to be an opportunity to come shoot some guns

with Chuck, Jamie and Rod Gilthaca and I guess myself. I'm working on twos because I think twos would be fun to have there as well. Just at a shooting range, we're going to make sure it's like super safe and you know like professional and all the things this isn't like bring your bazooka and go out in the backwoods um which i'm sure would be fun as well but uh you know that probably be for a small select group i've been i've been just thinking a lot about um the different lists everybody's always i'm concerned about being on the list but you know if i'm real with myself i'm on

list you're and uh the cfr you know i really appreciate rod gil tack and the work him and tracy Wilson are doing. Yeah, yeah, her too. And so I'm like, well, why does you come to Lloyd? And we'll see if we can't get you have two more signatures. And hopefully it's 200, but you know, start somewhere. Because that number of 2.7 million gun owners, 2.5, I think. Their numbers should be 400,000, 700,000. It should be a giant number that as a politician you can't look away from. Instead, it's fantastic numbers. I just think it needs to grow. So we're going to have you guys in town, October 20, If anyone's interested, you could shoot me a text. And as I get the details, I'll put that out.

But either way, that's going to be a fun day, I think. I can see if Jamie can still shoot or not. Yeah. Sniper Jamie. He was a sniper, and he can shoot. Well, it's going to be a fun day, I think. And a healthy day, right? Like, I look for healthy days more than focus.

You've got to be realistic. I always think you're pragmatic in the way of patterns of life. and seeing them and realizing, well, that's not good. But it doesn't do me any good to get into a mode of fear. And so to me, to put on a few healthy things and bring people together and the community together is healthy for us all. And then you just never know what comes out of that, what opportunities come out of that for people. Always something does when you put them on, yep. And so to me, you know, I always come back.

I think I'm becoming firmer and firmer in my resolve, Chuck. is it starts with you. And by you, I mean all of you listening, myself, and, you know, you got to figure out your lines. And then you got to go to work on them because they're not easy. Discipline is not the easiest thing to just implement into life. Hardest thing.

Yep. And if you can do that, well, maybe we've got 50 more trucks running around. And then maybe we got 200 more whatever's run around. And when problems arise in your area, you're the one with the ability and the opportunity to stand strong against and be like, no, we're just not doing that. It doesn't make any sense.

And the more of those people we can put out there in the most positive way, the eternal optimist to me says, we can get our way out of this. Now, that might be as an independent Alberta or Western Canada or whatever. I can't. That's, to me, the only path forward, yeah. But the only way things like that happen is more individuals taking onus of their lives and themselves and going to work on it and getting better and getting more firm and confident in standing and peacefully

disagreeing with whether it's government or other individuals in their community and just being like that doesn't make any sense. We need more of Charlie Kirk, not less of them. Absolutely. And certainly in where we're sitting today, time seems short. We started this conversation four years ago

and every year comes closer to 2032 if nothing pops off before then. I just think we're going to be an inflection point sooner than lighter. Whatever, whatever event, whatever catalyst pushes that, you can all see them, as you've been pointing out, we can all see it. You can all just use our eyes and notice something's changing. And so go to work on yourself.

Lift something heavy every day and get better and be less shitty. Yeah. And good things can come of that. Absolutely. And I don't, at the end of all this ranting I've done today, I don't, my intent isn't to like fear induce or like, oh, this is all. happening tomorrow kind of that's not the intent of this the intent of this is if you can just do so like you said much better than i can do something to take ownership of what you can

whether that's just in your own home your community whatever the hell it is just it's the only pushback you have at this point and you know hopefully can still have in a year or two from now depending on what new laws they pass to take more away from you because nothing they're putting in there is to help you. Nothing that they're passing is to help you or keep you safer. That's just what all dictators should say. It's, you'll be safer if we do this.

Mm-hmm. We're here to help. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Find out where you rely heavily heavily on somebody who isn't you and start addressing it. Yeah. Right.

Yes. Can you manufacture it, cook it, clean it, store it, buy it, learn it. Learn it. all of those things just do a little bit something improve something you know i use health as much as i can because i've said before like you get to that point where my t-shirts feel like they're broken something's wrong with you and you're like oh it's not them it's me you do something about it you're like fuck well i could do something or not do something i choose to do something you know

and lots of people do and it's a good way to like jordan peter sits in this book make your fucking bed. Well, he didn't, I don't think he swore, but like, make your bed. Clean your room. You know, make your bed. Take a little ownership of something small. Then the rest is going to kind of become a pattern. I've listened to a lot of different motivational speakers, I guess, or philosophical speakers talk. And like little wins, you know, you want the big win, but like little wins really can change the course of your life. 100%. That's where it starts. I always, you know, like alcohol this year. I wrote about that in 2018.

And I've been terrified of it for seven years. And it's funny. I hear I sit and I'm like, man, I've really built that up into a big thing. But it took a lot of little wins to get to where I'm like, okay, I can go do this. And for whatever it is out there, I think that's, that's, don't beat yourself up too much. because you know you want to turn into Chuck Prodnick or whoever overnight. You don't want to be me.

You know, like you want to understand how to handle yourself. You want to be a shout out to Kevin Damon. You want to be a black belt and jiu-jitsu. I think it's double black belt. You want to be able to do things like that. Well, then just start. And don't be too hard on yourself. Learn and grow and you'll find if you just start in a year's time.

Look where you can be. Look where you can be. And that's the thing about the little win. Everybody wants to go for that quick, fix, big win. Look what I can show, get some clout for. That's not, it doesn't work that way. Actually, the win is in the process. Yes.

Right? The discipline is the process. Yes. Because that, that'll teach you so much about life. Yeah. I mean, I'm no wise philosophical. I just like the things I'm learning as I go, I'm like, you know, you just start. You know, me and Dustin, we bike Canada years ago.

I remember looking at the map of Canada and going, how on earth we ever going to get across here? and we'd biked 40 kilometers, I think, the first day, out of 6,000 in change, you know. And my brain was doing a number on me. Oh, yeah. And dust is, I forget how it was the line goes. Apologies, dust. It was something along the lines. Just get on the pedals.

Start biking. Stop looking at the big, you know. How do you eat an elephant, one bite of a time? How do you bike a country? Get on the pedals and start pedaling. One kilometer a day, still is one less you got to do. And you'll find, as you get better at something, then you can do more. And then that starts to speed up.

And all of a sudden, 69 days here across country. It's like, holy crap, how'd you do that? Got on the bike every day, you know, and just bit off a little bit more every single day. And all of a sudden, you know, if you approach any skill that way or learning anything, it's funny how far you can go if you set your, your course, you know, you pointed a goal and you just aim for it. And just take a chunk every day. Yeah. It's the same with working out.

People be, oh, I'm already so fat and weak and all this stuff. There's too much. They'll find an excuse, but if you just do it for three months, consistently, just something for three months, you will notice a difference and improve your eating habits a little bit. I'm not saying you got to be jocco Wilnick out there, some other, you know, Goggins or who, you don't have to be that. You know, they're great guys to look to for some inspiration for sure, but like, or there's a bunch out there, but start something, do something. And in three months, I guarantee you, you will be like, this is fit and different. I look,

I feel a little different. I'm not winded going up the stairs. You know, all those things. Just start at something. And that's the hardest part. You trick yourself out of start. I had to put in a home gym because I was tricking myself out of like, oh, it's cold out. It was hot out there.

It's nice out there. I don't, you know, I found an excuse not to go. I, or in when I did go, I was kind of like just showing up. I put it on a nice home gym. I bit the bullet, spent the money and I have no excuse. It's across the hall. You know, it's there. Yeah, fight the war in your mind.

Fight the war in your mind. That's it. As soon as you do that, good things can happen. And you're going to have setbacks. You will have setbacks. But what you do after the setback is really what determines what goes forward. That's where you learn and grow. My wife, so we went for hockey season, football, all the sports, right, that we get our kids into and school and everything, right?

It's just starting to, like, it's going to go to fever pitch here in the next couple months and it's going to be busy. So we did a date night this past weekend. And it was nice. It was nice just to go and have a day away from the kids and just, you know, spend some time together. I can't remember what the question was, but she was talking about one of the things that kind of taught her that we could get out of some different situations is she came out of school with student debt. And when she looked at that number, she's like, we're never going to pay this off. and then we just started looking at it and we started to like do different things

well before where I was podcasting right to just try and chip away at it and it's funny over a course of a I don't know what it was was it three years was a five years I can't remember now and one day we're sitting on the back deck we opened a bottle of champagne because we paid it off and it was like such a sense of accomplishment

it is yeah and to me if you if you set your your target on something that you you know, is a big, oh man, this is going to be tough. Yeah. You can do that. And once you do things like that, it's what biking taught me. Impossible is nothing.

It doesn't mean you can go climb Mount Everest tomorrow. No. Like don't be a, I mean, maybe you can. Unrealistic. Yeah, you're not all. But also if that's your goal. Yeah. Then make it happen.

Then make it happen. And put the things in place to go do said things. Or if you want to go, whatever it is, you know, like. In every March or run I was in the army or March, especially carrying whatever ridiculous weight we were carrying. whatever ridiculous distance we were going at whatever ridiculous speed we were going you'd reach a point in your head where you're like holy i'm not i can't fucking do this i can't keep this up you know i can't and then you'd go one more step one more excruciating step and then you'd be like okay whatever i'll just i'm just going to do it you know well it's funny if you get past that point of

exhaustion yeah it's funny what second gears you can find where you almost enjoy the pain it's a weird feeling it there i don't get that a whole lot anymore because i don't obviously Obviously, with kids and everything, you know, I just don't seem to put myself into those situations anymore, but biking for sure. Our longest day was 200 and some kilometers. And at one point, you're just like, I mean, what's another 10K? Whereas if you only do 40K, 10K seems like quite the, you know, accomplishment. And, you know, you just get to a point where you're like, ah, whatever.

I'm exhausted, but the legs are still going. And if I just keep pedaling, no matter the pace, eventually we're going to add on another 10K or another 15 or whatever it is. And, uh, yeah, man, biking, when I look back on it, that was probably one of the best things I ever did. For sure. You find it like you said, you find out what you really have in your, in your tank, what you can do. And people would be surprised at themselves. Like, I'm shocked at some of the stuff I've been able to do just because I've been lucky to be surrounded by people for most of my careers, the two that I, you know, were what they

were that just didn't have quit they just they did it wasn't even the thing they understood doing you know and so when you're near people like that I had that example you know that had those examples like but you that thing is bleeding that's broken and you're still going like I'm lighting up another smoke and I'm still going literally had these examples of guys with a broken thing or a bleeding that and this is dangling you're like how are you still going before I let you out of here I'm rewatching the terminal list actually I just finished the first season

because there's a second season out. The one with the other guy in it, yeah. Jared, whatever's name is. Chris Pratt. Chris Pratt is the main guy in the first season and the second season. It's the other guy. What the hell is it?

Hirsch. Kish? Something, Taylor Kitch. Yes, anyway. Great show, yeah. What do you think of those, the terminalists? Not the, you always come back to military and whether it's a good show.

I mean, I like Chris Pratt, because he's open about his faith too. Like he's a he's one of those one of a rarity in Hollywood. But I think it's a good, it's a well done show, you know, for a show. And there's some good drills in there shockingly. Like they, they, they, they had some good technical advisors. I actually think they had some seals on there from what I understand, showing them some shit.

I was wondering, he's going up the stairs. I can't remember first season. Anyways, Chris Pratt. He's going up a stairwell and he keeps switching his handle. Yeah. Or how his hands are on the gun. Yeah. I'm like, do you become.

So good at handling a weapon offhand shooting that you can do both because it's important. You can. Yes. You can. Is that like an elite thing? Like the Connor McDavid of we learn that stuff. We do that stuff. They do it. What we would learn as a chainsaw, they learn as a scalpel. So that at that tier, you know, like the seals and JTF and high tier dudes. That to them is like it's just what they do. It's like swimming and to a fish or something. to them. For us doing it at the infantry, regular line infantry level, yeah, you can do it. And occasionally you might do it, but honestly, you just compensate for the wrong angle. You just figure out a different, because a different workaround. Yeah, it just is what it is, right? Because we already understand that we're not JTF guys. We're not seal guys. And that's a, that's a, that's it. You have to have that. But I mean, as far as watching him do his drills, that guy did some John Wick drills for a long time to learn that because he did them seamless seamlessly yeah he did he really

I appreciate that about a show I tell you I got to shoot my first handgun this year no never shot in a handgun before I don't think that like I can't remember so it's got to be the first time in the states I was awful like yeah I couldn't hit a tar I was just like this is frustrating it's hard like I didn't realize how hard you know with a with a long rifle to hit a target you know we've been shooting gopers it's just left it's literally just right clicking. Yeah, it's easy. And I'm not saying I'm hitting the bullseye every time, but you know, you're hitting the targets. Hang on man, I was like, that's a skill set. I'm like, this is, now in fairness, I only would, what, what did I shoot maybe 30 rounds? It wasn't like a crazy

amount. And I assume it's like anything. You start shooting more. You start to get it. But I was like, okay, I missed it. I'm like, that would, I did not feel that coming. So then you knew, and then you miss again. And then you miss again. You're like, what am I doing wrong here? I thought of you and Jamie when I'm sitting there and I'm like, I can't even, this is frustrating. I'm like, how is it that I'm missing a target like that that should, you know, anyways, shooting a handgun was. It's, it's, it's unbelievably much more difficult and skill intensive in most ways than long gun usage. I mean, long gun usage is fairly intuitive after a period. Handgun usage is, you'd be, I mean, you'd be shocked.

I mean, I, again, in long gun. fights I've seen, a buddy of mine was literally dumped a, he mag dumped, the Taliban mag dumped and they were only 30 feet apart. And he got the guy with barely got the guy. It was panic shooting, right? And, uh, the Taliban missed with his 30. And it's just you're only 20 feet apart. You're, you're, you could throw a rock and hit each other.

Yeah. But it's, it's, you know, and then you get a handgun going. You watch all these John Wiki movies. I know. And that's probably why I got set up for failure. Yeah. watch John Wick, you know, and you're like, it is not pew, pew, pew. Were you holding it sideways the way you should?

No. No, I'm kidding. Chuck, appreciate you coming in and doing this. Well, we'll have you back here in October. And if anyone's interested in it, shoot me a text, October 26. Thanks for letting me rant, brother. Yeah, you bet you. And I guess for anyone in October 25th, they do have customer appreciation day at Profit River, too.

So make sure if you're making any purchase selfless plug on my own podcast, but If you're making any purchase of the Proffer River, use coupon code SMP because you do get added in to draws and a lot of wonderful stuff. So either way, thanks for hopping in, Chuck. Thanks, Sean. And we'll see you here in a couple weeks. Yep.