Shaun Newman Podcast - #948 - Patrik Pavlica

Episode Date: November 10, 2025

Patrik Pavlica is a business professional based in Calgary, Alberta.. He discusses advanced photocatalytic coatings (FN Nano Technology) designed for air purification, surface protection, and environmental cleaning applications—such as removing pollutants, bacteria, viruses, and odors from air and surfaces in homes, offices, hospitals, and other spaces. FN Nano Technology:https://fnnanowescan.ca/Tickets to Cornerstone Forum 26’: https://www.showpass.com/cornerstone26/Tickets to the Mashspiel:https://www.showpass.com/mashspiel/Silver Gold Bull Links:Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/Email: [e-mail] Grahame: [phone]Bow Valley Credit UnionBitcoin: www.bowvalleycu.com/en/personal/investing-wealth/bitcoin-gatewayEmail: [e-mail] Use the code “SNP” on all ordersProphet River Links:Website: store.prophetriver.com/Email: [e-mail] your voice heard: Text Shaun 587-217-8500

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All right, let's get on to that tale of the tape. Today's guests are proud Albertan and expert in FN Nano photocatalytic coatings. I'm talking about Patrick Pavotsa. So buckle up. Here we go. Welcome to the Sean Numa podcast. Today I'm joined by Patrick Pavlitzer. How close am I?

Yes, pretty close. Pretty close. It was worth a shot, folks. It was worth a shot. How's Patrick doing today? I'm good, yeah. All right, I think. You know, like overall, I got nothing to complain about.

Yourself? Yeah, no compents except the five-hour drive from Calgary up here. Well, I tell you what. Let's start off. You know, it's probably not, it's got to be a nice bonus for making that drive. But there, there's a one ounce silver coin for making the drive. This is what you get by making the drive instead of, instead of doing virtual. You get a one ounce silver coin from silver gold bowl.

Cool, thank you very much I don't know if you're a silver guy Maybe you're a gold guy Maybe you're a honey guy Maybe you're a truck Prodnick And you're a leg guy Maybe you're all of the above Exactly

All of the above Patrick Your first time on the show Like I ran into you For the first time At the Cornerstone Forum I think I think that's the first time

No we met each other Before at the Injection of the Truth Oh yes The Injection of the Truth truth yes you're correct yes well this has been in my opinion a long time in the works it seemed like every time we got a little closer something would happen whether i'm i'll take all the blame folks because i seem to be the busy one uh i'm sure patrick is a busy man as well but uh you finally sit in the chair tell the audience but about yourself uh yeah i'm 51 years old

I came to Calgary Canada 13 and a half years ago and I choose Calgary because of the it's very close to mountains I am adventure guys so I like climbing skiing hiking spending time in the bush and I I'm actually applying this very unique technology which is called nanotechnology coatings and we apply those coatings for people and our planet because what it does when it applies on the exterior of the buildings it cleans the air for us and maintains the buildings clean and fresh for decades when it's applied indoors it does clean the air for us oxygenize the air

which is the second benefit and the third benefit it's reducing the cost of cleanings before we get to the product you moved 13 and a half years ago to Cald That's right. I have my thoughts on Calgary. Sorry, Calgary. But regardless. I'm kidding. I like you, Calgary.

I like you just fine. Where did you come from? I came from Czechoslovakia. Okay. That's where I was born. While the life went on, it was separated into two different countries. So now it's Czech Republic and Slovak Republic because of the politics and BS and whatnot. But now it's Czech and Slovak.

Yes. Two separate countries. Do you think there's a place on this planet? That doesn't have government BS happening. Very few. Maybe our influence in Peru. Yeah, if you go completely off the, you know, but then you got to deal with, I don't know.

Some poisonous venomous snake is probably what becomes your day-to-day worry there. I was just having a conversation with a friend before we walked in here. And we got talking about different areas of the world. And I'm like, I just don't think there's a place where you could move to. And all of a sudden, now, there would be different levels. of what the government is doing on everyday life. I'm sure there's places that don't have Canada's insanity of, I don't know, maid and other things going on.

But, you know, when you move from the Czech Republic, why come here? Why not stay in the Czech Republic? Well, there was a couple of reasons, because prior that move from Czech to Canada, I used to live in states. So I kind of got used to that North American style of living. I'm not saying it's better

It's different Some things are easier Some things are worse But yeah I was talking to my wife About either Australia or Canada And she was like no I don't like snakes

I don't like poison spiders So she won't be living in the rainforest So she kind of decide For us that it's Canada And I was looking at the mob I'm like okay I want to be close to mountains So Calgary it is

And the other factor was also the politics. We are very conservative people. So there was basically not very many options left but Calgary. Forgive me because I don't know a whole bunch about the Czech Republic, right? Minus their hockey. That's, you know, and then that probably doesn't go that deep folks. When you say you're very conservative, like was leaving Czech an easy decision, you said things were better, some things were better here, some things were worse, what was better living over there than when you came here? what was better over there I would start with what was worst basically that people are

talking behind your bag and that kind of attitude from foreign communism times it's still in the people basically if you're not built new house your neighbor would be looking for to build two-story house because they want to show they are better than you or they can afford more than you. This is in people's attitude, this is in their brains. And, yeah, I didn't like that at all. Where do you think that comes from? Hard to say, maybe from communist regimes,

because in communist times, everybody should be equal, right? And this is one of the idea. And, yeah, I didn't like that, no. That's interesting, because, you know, like, How long ago was that area communist? Until 1989, when the Berlin Wall fell down, and since then, we went on the road of being capitalism country. So 30 some years later, 36 years later,

and you can still see the attitude of... Exactly. I don't know, what do we call that? Just looking at our government. Our president, it used to work for KGB in Russia, and now he hates Russians. And our prime minister, which is actually leading the country, he was also like a KGB agent.

So just looking at this, this is still remaining. Until my generation, I was 16 when the Berlin Wall fell down, until my generation will die, there will be communism involved in leading the country, in between the people, in their attitudes, in their minds. So it takes a full generation, essentially, is what you're saying, to move on from a certain set of ideas. Exactly.

That's what it is. That's my experience, at least. No, I'm just like, that's a tough thing to hear, isn't it? Because you're like, you sit in Canada, we got all these crazy ideas. Like, literally crazy ideas. You know, like, this has to change. Like, we have to change. You know, I was just watching Pierre Pilev, his comments on mandatory minimums for child pornography

and how the judges, about it. they get rid of the law? I don't know. I should look that up. Because I don't want to say it wrong. But essentially, they voted down your minimum sentences for child pornography, right? And you're like, it's crazy. These are very poor ideas.

And yet we're just implementing them, which means if they were to continue, not that they all follow the logic of what you're saying, but some of them will. That it'll take a full generation before you can actually get rid of some of these. stupidity that is going on in society right now yeah that is right when you when you're living through covid did you go we made a mistake and coming to canada and being in calgary well it was same measures pretty much all over the world except probably on those very rural areas such as rainforest in the middle of nowhere the measures were quite similar and like north america was behind because it was coming from Asia through Europe into North America so I was watching the news from Russia because I still speak Russian I was watching the news from

Czech then I was watching the news from Germany and then I'm like okay this is coming here we all need to prepare and when I saw all different kind of measures I was like okay this is not good And we need to actually, we need to say no. Simple as that. It didn't matter if you were back home or here. The answer was, just say no. Say no.

No masks, no vaccines, none of that stuff. No, just say no. Simple as that. Here was what I was referencing. Supreme Court of Canada strikes down mandatory minimums for child pornography possession. The Supreme Court of Canada ruled 5 to 4 on October 31st, the one-year mandatory minimum sentences for possessing or accessing child pornography. under the Criminal Code Violate Section 12 of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms

by imposing cruel and unusual punishment on less culpable offenders. The decision involves, oh my goodness. The decision in cases involving Nova Scotia men, Jean-Francois, Nod, and Mark Andre Senevville found the provisions overbroad while maintaining maximum penalties up for 10 years in judicial discretion. Anyways, that's what I was referencing. you know like I don't know what's happening back in your homeland you know like this is probably your homeland now it's just interesting because you have world perspective you've been in the

United States you've been in the no I don't know what is it is it Czechia now is that Czech Republic in Canada gives you a bit of world experience to see how different countries are dealing with the world today I guess yeah that's right and between US and Canada I lived in Zurich in Switzerland for one year so I was actually able to see how direct democracy is working

which is what I would like to see here in Alberta basically if there is a need for referendum people can call for referendum four times a year and their government is way smaller the president is elected for one year so yeah I saw that

and I was like okay this is the system which is actually working and it's exact direct democracy as pure as it can be. Switzerland. Switzerland, yes. Then I lived in Varshao, in Poland, which is quite similar attitude

and kind of style of living because it's a Slavic country as well. And I spent some time in Prague, in Czech Republic, and then I was like, okay, no, I need to go somewhere else. So, Calgary. So you bring up, and forgive me,

you bring up your product, and I'm going to butcher it. Like, is it nano, FN, Nano? yes this is the name it's a shortcut for functional coatings okay that's why it's hard enough to promote it because it doesn't mean much that's why we have a website which is called we clean air simple as that it speaks for itself now in the middle of COVID I would assume something like this I remember I remember being like why don't we have like all the blue-collar people come in and give us all the best

ways to get everybody back going the way they should be going? You can't act like we're going to live in a bubble for the next hundred years. And you never heard of ideas like this. So walk me through it. Well, during COVID, I had actually a call center and I called every single private medical clinic. I doctors, dentists, all the private clinics around BC, Alberta, Saskatchewan. And there was zero interest. Nobody wasn't interested. they were all telling me the same story oh we are using whatever the government is telling us we are using a bunch of hand sanitizer and face masks and I was like okay sure so and then I got experienced something very strange also I was talking to schools not only hospitals

and private clinics but also our nursing homes because those nursing homes they do need good air quality for the older people who already struggling with some kind of issues right so when I got to speak with one of the manager of nursing home in Calgary it was a very strange experience

and he basically sent me to hell he was like no we are not interested we are I don't understand what strange experience means you got to walk me through this like strange means a heck of a lot more okay so if you want me to say

it exactly his words I will say it sure so what happened because we are not able to meet in person at all right because we were all going to die so I I got this gentleman on the phone and prior our conversation I sent him all the information how effective it is that it can actually eliminate COVID any viruses and microbes from the air within a couple of minutes so I sent him all that stuff So he was aware what our conversation is going to be about. And after I spoke to him, basically I asked him like, hey, what do you are actually doing to get the lives of your clients better?

And he told me, I don't give a fuck about his old fart, which was kind of heartbreaking. I was like, wow, okay, it was eye opener for me. And then I said, okay, so what's your job? and he said my job is to keep this house full that was it so i was shocked but i guess this is life 2025 and my other experience was with actually the hill minister of alberta this province they would not even let me tell to him when i got into hill minister's office that was adjacent coping at those days march 2021 they sent me away they would They were like, oh, you have something that eliminates COVID, please leave.

So I left, obviously, right? And other experience which I had during COVID, it was I was trying to let people know about this technology, which would be eliminating COVID in minutes through all media. So I've talked to all TV stations, zero interest, send them emails, hundreds phone calls. So I then decide to go there by myself. the door were locked and when I got to Calgary Herald huge big building on Deerford and 16 Avenue it's not Calgary Held anymore it's something else but anyways when I got there in March 21 there was only one vehicle on the entire parking lot and I was

like okay this is probably the security guard and then I was right obviously so I walk in there was the security guard guy behind the desk and he was like hey how can I help you nobody's here in this building this building is sitting empty for one year so i said well i would like to get an article in calgary hall calgary sun about this technology which can help with this pandemic right they call it pandemic we were calling this plundemic so basically hand me a piece of paper with a bunch of names and emails and it's like good luck and i was like okay sure so No help either. I guess society was not open to any different ideas, different options, how we could get rid of this COVID stuff, right?

Yeah, pretty strange experiences. Yeah, well, strange actually does fit the bill, doesn't it? Like, I mean, it honestly, but I don't know. It's so, like, it's interesting to listen to different people's accounts during that. time of trying to speak to the government about things like what the heck is going on here like why aren't we doing XYZ why aren't we trying these different things it became a very one idea focused approach there's one way to get out of this everybody do it and everybody do it again if you got to do it again and that'll be the way we get out of this thing so I can

partially understand and not not in not in why they wouldn't talk to you but to me it just comes in a long series of people that had similar experiences, I guess, is kind of the thing. So, is it paint? It's applied as a paint. It's a coating. Okay, it's a coating. Yes. Dumb question.

Is a paint, I guess there's tons of different coatings you can do. That's why you use the word coding. Because paint is just one form of application that could be considered a coding. So this coating doesn't act like a paint. No. It doesn't. So what does it do? Okay.

Together with UVA light, which is very easy outside on the exteriors, on the buildings, it creates photocatalytic reaction. Photo, it's light from Spanish and catalytic basically cleans, right? So photocatalytic reaction removes all airborne particles from air. If it's dust, poland, small, bacteria, viruses, including COVID, they will get eliminated if it's applied indoors we have to have UVA lights installed which shines on the ceiling because we apply the coding on the ceilings when it's indoors if it's a drop ceiling like yours or popcore knockdown any of these structures

structures can be applied I mean the coding can be applied on okay we're gonna start with outside for a second okay so you put it on outside Yep. I assume you pressure wash the building, you let it dry, then you put it on. Yep. And you're saying it can remove things out of the air. Yeah. For how long?

Airborne particles. Okay. If the coding, it's not repainted, resprayed, recovered with something else, there is basically no wear. It's not like our knees or tires on our vehicles. There is nothing to wear because it's not a chemical. reaction it's a photocatalytic reaction so as long as the lights shine on the surface or as long as the UVA is present so as long as the sunshine it's it's doing it things yes basically creates the light and the coding together

starts the photocatalytic reaction and that removes everything was airborne seems too good to be true it's like you're telling me you put this stuff on and then you don't have any bacteria mold nothing like that can build up on it because it's destroying it as it goes along as long as it has enough sunlight i assume here in canada in the middle of winter that can be a little interesting but at the same time in the cold weather i once again folks i'm not a biologist uh or whatever the term is uh like does mold and stuff build up on the outside of minus 40 or is that more of a uh a warm weather problem not really when it's minus 40 the mold it's not yeah nothing's growing not sticking to the buildings

so on the outside if you paint this or coat this with adequate sunlight you're saying like it just it'll look i don't i don't know maybe i'm not saying this right patrick pristine like it just won't fade it won't like will you notice anything like if you go can you can you like is this for industrial buildings or this is any building pretty much any building our coding can be applied on any surface exact glass stucco concrete brick concrete blocks wooden siding that's my house but it preserves the building so it can maintain fresh for decades right and it cleans the air around us I mean for us the main idea of the founder which is holder of 200 patents over 200 patents in

nanotechnology extremely smart guy he's actually was born in Czech Czechoslovakia just like me so he's got a Czech passport and he immigrate into United States just before the Berlin Wall fell down so he's a US and Czech resident and his main idea

was to make Prague to clean a city in Europe so he was not looking to install these coatings indoors at all that was his main idea to clean air outside from vehicle emissions you're saying if a city

put this all on every single building in the city they'd have cleaner air than anywhere else because it's constantly cleaning the air from vehicle pollutants to people smoking to i don't know just sick people walk around coughing on things like just all the stuff getting put out in the air if you had it on every building it'd just be like a natural cleaner just constantly cleaning exactly that's right and on top of that the the coding reflects oxygen back into the atmosphere so it's most likely planting a tree and also what the coding does it cools the building in the summer months so where's the butt but you know it is got chinese labor or chinese labor kid labor or something that helps it like is it a natural like all the things both this are great titanium dioxide

it's the main particle of the coding and it's mine in japan because japan has the cleanest titanium dioxide Titanium dioxide is used in all kind of things which we get across every single day. Toothpaste, sunscreens, food coloring, makeups, paint, you name it. This is the main particle, small, tiny particle of titanium dioxide. Any health risk to this? Like, is there any, like, I don't know, what's the word I'm looking for here? Like, any ramifications to the health? I can't spit it out today, folks.

Like, is there any health impact on human beings? beings, if this is put on every single building, you're constantly around it. Like, would there be anything that, you know, oh, it causes cancer or it actually causes asthma? I don't know. No, it actually helps people with any breathing difficulties. Asthma, shortness of breath, this is actually what we need. We need clean, fresh air full of oxygen. And so if you put this on every building, what do people say to you when you bring them

this product? Like, is it standoffish or are they like, oh, just put it up. Let's try this out. And then I guess do they notice something right away? It's very hard to measure. Like, we do have air quality devices, right? And especially in last two years, we have applied this coding in Milano in Italy on many buildings outside. And what they have, they have these huge vans with air quality devices and they measure the air quality inside the city of Milano. And they have very good results. So you think this is the way the future is going in certain parts of the world where they'll give it a try? Yep, exactly. Because you think if everybody just threw it on every house you have in Calgary, can you imagine the wide adoption of something like this?

They actually want to save the planet, clean the air, all the things they say and then do the opposite of, regardless. That's a small rant. If they did this, you'd be able to watch it over the course of a year and go, holy crap, we're actually doing something. Yep, exactly. so when you okay so let's move inside that inside you don't put it on the walls you only put it on the roof yeah that's right only ceilings why ceilings well there is multiple reasons a the hot air goes up on its own and bring brings all the airborne particles with it as i mentioned before dust polands mold bacteria viruses all live in the ceilings yeah so we do apply the coating on

ceilings only not on the walls As I said, the hard air goes up and the other thing is there needs to be lights installed on the walls which shine on the ceiling and starts the photocatalytic reaction. Yeah, because you don't have the sunlight to produce the reaction you need. So you have to install, that makes sense to me, okay. Because the older windows they didn't have in the past 40, 50, 60 years ago, they didn't have these UVA protection films on them. but the newer windows they usually do which means those windows block the UVA comes into your house

and this is what we need we need UVA to be present the more I learn about the sun the more you don't want to block anything it has to offer am I wrong in that yeah that's right no and yet what do we do we build we build windows that

blocks UVA yeah doesn't that seem counterproductive or sunscreen SP 50 or whatever you put it on and you can potentially cause clean cancer right yeah yeah that's right okay so you put it on the ceiling you put your special lights in if i did it in let's say just this room what would i notice like i assume in a smaller area you can notice things right away or am i wrong on that yes no you are not wrong that's that's absolutely right you would notice fresher air oxygenizer air no smell

No odors. Let's say you're going to have a cat here. It will eliminate all the odors. Cooking, bad odors. Yeah. In our house, moisture, right? You got a hot house, cold outside, constantly fluctuating, blah, blah, blah, around the windowsills is where I notice black mold. Would that eliminate that? That's right. Everything was airborne. It gets eliminated. Just by having it on the ceiling. Yeah, all that goes away. Well, because the air in your house circulates, right?

Imagine HVAC blowing air from your ducks, right? And it goes up, right? Because warm air goes up and brings all the airmo particle vivid. It's not going to work on dog's hair because they are too heavy to be airborne. But whatever it's airborne, it will get eliminated. And I kind of want to see it work. on your website is there videos of this yes we do have a youtube channel and there is a video which explains like animated video which explains for 10 year old how does it work what

does it do and what we can achieve as a population well i just think of like i don't know about everybody else but myself when the seasons change right and you get all the you know like different airborne particles that are coming off of heck just harvest out here, but also the mold from underneath the snow and the leaves and the dead grass and on and on and on. But then you look inside the house in the, I don't know, the black mold, I guess. Like, it's not like we had a ton of it, but every once in a while I do notice it and you clean it off or you use something to get it out of there and try and clean it up the best you can. What I'm wondering, like, I'm listening to, I'm like, that'd be interesting.

So you put it on the ceiling in one room. Would you have to do the whole house to have a a complete effect on it? Yes. Is it expensive? Well, yes and no. That depends how you look at it. Yes. What's the price for your health?

Priceless, right? And we want to be in a clean environment. So anyways, I will get to this. Let me explain what is the whole procedure. Okay. Sure. What we do, we cover the walls with plastic sheets. We cover the floors.

We move the furniture around, cover the furniture, just like us is spraying a ceiling, right? Because that's what we are doing, literally, right? So then we apply a water-based primer. This is a very important step of the application because we want to make sure that the coating will bond properly. People can have latex, oil-based paint on the ceilings or any kinds, right? So we do have to apply one code of water-based primer. We use Kills 2 here in North America, which is working just fine for our purposes. And then we do apply three layers of our coding.

Then we clean up, all the plastic goes down, all the drop sheets. We'll be taking care of. Then we clean and then we also install those UVA lights. So those are part of the application because they have to be there. Yes. And for this, we do charge 11 bucks per square feet. Is it a lot? Is it cheap?

Is it expensive? I don't know. But there is definitely a lot of people who are not afraid to pay even more because they have health issues. So if I'm doing- have asthma if i'm doing my math correcting and quote me if i'm wrong on this if you had a thousand square foot house then you're saying uh 11 000 dollars yeah 11 000 for a thousand square foot house yes to do the inside to do the inside uh lots of folks just start with let's say

their office a lot of people work home right since covid a lot of people stayed home they work like a home office kind of thing and they start with the home office i mean with their office in their house. Some folks do their bedrooms. Like I have a client that was November 2020 when he was hospitalized with COVID and he came back home after three weeks in the hospital and he was constantly coughing. He was attached to an oxygen hose basically from a machine size of a dishwasher. It's an oxygen generating machine. It doesn't actually generate the oxygen. It's only separate oxygen from the rest of the air and supplies that oxygen into your nose through a rubber hose so he was attached to this 24-7 yeah please thank you

sorry I should have offered that right off the hop no a bottle of water for anybody wondering all good yeah bottle of water it's not a whiskey or beer I haven't been drinking all year so those days I don't know are they behind me they feel like it. But certainly the studio, if you wanted something a little more spicy, and we can always do that too. Yeah. So this gentleman, he came home and he was attached to oxygen, basically 24-7. So his wife, Lucas up, and she called me, she's like, hey, Patrick, we want to try it in our bedroom. He said, okay, sure, yes. Because my husband, he's laying next to me. He's coughing

and constantly, you know, awake all night. So we would like to try. your product, your technology in our bedroom. I said, sure, yeah. So we did it. We applied the coding in their bedroom. And it didn't took long. The next morning she called me. It was 8 o'clock in the morning, and she was crying.

She was like, Patrick, we were both sleeping six hours. I don't even remember when that happened last time. So it does work, obviously. Did they... So once again, that goes back to a room. So in where he was sleeping, he has breathing issues. Mm-hmm. Yep.

They do it to the ceiling and all of a sudden it's just like fixed. Or, yeah. Like, I mean, me and I don't call it fixed off that story, right? Like, these lights you have to put it. Do they got to stay on all the time? As long as you want the coding to be working? Yes. So, like, do you need it to work all day long or is this something at night you flick on?

I'm just kind of curious now. I'm like, so are you going to have this like weird glow to your house? it glows a little bit basically like a you know these glowing mini goals for kids sure you don't need a night light anymore or some kind of techno parties when you see old white on you glowing right yes it does glow yes so you know you just think about it like people are they're interesting because when they get pushed into the situation of this this couple you're talking about anything just give me anything that'll work this sounds interesting let's try it she calls you crying because she's just like we're out of options like nothing is working and then all of a sudden it works now you've sold them for life i assume

probably become a very good salesman for you because they just had just they didn't have anywhere to turn but other people and like man i don't know how much is the airborne stuff in my house really affected me patrick is it worth putting all this money into is it i don't know what would you say to that give you a try let's try part of your house instead of the full house. Yeah. Where do you spend most of the time? Kitchen, office, bedroom.

Well, you got to think bedroom, don't you? Most likely, yeah. Right? You're sleeping every night? Mm-hmm. Like, you could probably notice with your example, it's health problems, right? So if you have, if you're sitting there right now and you're having issues with breathing or constant, I don't know, maybe colds or like.

infections or stuff like that like I was really I talked to this one lady uh man how many years how long ago is that doesn't matter she she worked in an office and then they eventually found out there was mold in there and she had a whole crazy amount of health problems happened to her and you go like I don't think anyone was thinking about changing the paint what would they do they talk well get the mold out of there well how do you get the mold out of there and keep it out of there what you're saying is you put this stuff up you're never going to have mold anymore that's right yeah it doesn't help to get rid of the mold but once it's gone then it will not build up again right so you'd have to get the mold out but after that like it doesn't have it won't come

back that's right yeah how did you find this like you moved over here sorry 12 years ago was this something you were doing 12 years ago or is this something along your path you just stumbled into you mentioned the guy who's got the 200 plus patents is from the check republic and he moved here before the Bernal and Wall fell, or moved to the United States, I should say. Yep. How did you stumble into this? Well, I came across with,

I came across this technology with my wife's cousin, all of a sudden, out of the blue, he called me and he's like, hey, Patrick, you have to start selling this product. I said, what are you talking about? So I was trying to find out more. I was very interested, right,

because it was fascinating to me because my my lifetime passion is basically to help nature first and then also people that's what i do i help people and i help i help mother of nature and when i saw the video of this man of the founder when he's explaining what he's doing and why i was like wow okay this is what i'm going to be doing and this happened six years ago so since then i got hooked And I was like, okay, I will continue with this, with his journey, and I will take on at least the best part of Canada, some parts of the United States. Basically, we can apply this coding in North America. When was the first time you saw the product applied? Like, I assume you have like a moment where you're like, oh, yeah, this isn't, like, because, you know, you're watching all these videos.

then kind of proofs in the pudding, you know? Like seeing is believing. Eventually you had to have put it on and I wonder if this is actually going to work. You know, like all the videos, yeah, this sounds really cool. But when was the first time you actually got to see and experience this coding doing its thing? That was our house.

And I did half of the house only as a test. So imagine kitchen, dining room, living room. it's like a one half of the house second half it's bedrooms so I did the kitchen living room dining room and the very first time when I saw huge difference was when those the summer wild forest fires I made a video with air quality device I was sitting in the house it was all green good air quality then I got out on our deck my son was filming me and the device went from green to orange orange and red.

In the same house? And it did start be pink. No, that was outside. Oh, sorry, sorry. I went outside with the air quality device. Then I went back into the house and it went from red to amber and green again. So I was like, okay, fine, there is a proof, right? My personal experience, again, I used to be allergic to fresh cut grass.

So when I was cutting the grass on our backyard, I came home, my eyes was running. I had to constantly clean my nose and after applying this coating I didn't have to do that I cleaned my nose once and that was it so yeah allergies for fresh grass and smokes this is very very obvious

hmm you know I just wonder how many things people are you know threw my back out so I went to an osteopath and she started working on my back and she's like holy crap

you know was it 10 ribs was it eight ribs i don't i don't know if i care anymore at some point she's like your entire back's all messed up how long you've been walking like this i'm like i don't know you know playing hockey all my life i never had my back worked on once and she kind of laughed she's like well that's that's pretty poor you you don't even realize how uncomfortable you are right and then she put everything back in place and i was saying in the wife i was sitting on the coach one day and i i kind of gotten used to it i couldn't no people if they're watching i couldn't turn my neck all the way this way and i was sitting there one day after i gone to the osteopath and i just i don't know if i just looked i'm like wait a second i'm like one and she's like what i'm like i think

she fixed my neck she's like what like i think she fixed my neck and and mel's like i have no idea what you're talking about i'm like i haven't been able to move my neck that far for like two years she's like well what and i'm like no dead serious and i just kind of got a customer i guess i ain't going to move my neck like and then that just became my range of motion, if you would, right? So we're going, you know, tying that to this coding. I'm like, I wonder how many of us have allergies or just times of the year where things get really rough on the sinuses, so to speak, and just come, it's just the time of the year. That's not that big a deal. You just suffer through it for a couple of days. You take some medication. You do

all the different things. And what you're pointing out is maybe there's a different way to do where you actually relieve all those symptoms and it comes with a coating in your house. Yeah, that's right. There is lots of allergies, especially in the springtime, fall, winter, spring, all the viruses being, you know, in the air, it helps eliminate all those. If they had done this, you know, like,

you think the government, looking for all the... Let's look for solutions, although they didn't look very hard because we could have found them an awful lot during the COVID years. But in COVID, in theory, if they put this in all the schools, right, put it in all the ceilings of the school, the schools wouldn't have to be closed at all

because that would be fresh air. Well, you didn't think... Instead of that, what they were doing, they were applying these hand sanitizers which actually pollutes there very badly. Why does hand sanitize a pollute here? Alcohol and all the chemicals, are in once they are out of the bottle and you put them on your hands you're

basically polluting the air you think over the last hundred years how much stuff we put in the air it's polluting it we probably have zero clue is what you're pointing out yeah because I don't think of I guess my my small brain on this side did not think of putting hand sanitizer on and equating it to pluting the air I think of putting hand sanitizer on and what are you doing to the body is I actually go the other way. But what you're pointing out is it actually goes into the atmosphere. Yep.

Yeah. There was a lot of tests done in the schools, in the classrooms, with air quality devices, all kinds of different air quality devices, different brands, different qualities, and they were all proving the same thing. Which was? Which was the air quality was horrible when they were using hand sanitizers. and the windows were shut

and there was no enough air circulations and compared to that classroom they were doing the same measure in the classroom where the coding was applied in Prague and that air was very good in a matter of minutes five, ten minutes the air was done

I mean that was clean. Is there any school that's doing this? Is there any school? Sorry, in Alberta or Western Canada that's actually put this stuff in. Now that I know, no, there is a lot in Czech Republic. So if you're over in Czech Republic, this is not an old technology per se,

but certainly you're seeing it in different applications there. Schools, nursing homes, hospitals, private clinics, yes. This technology. And also all food industries, beers. When you can do beer in brewery, you need clean. pristine air. All the big breweries in Czech Republic, Pilsner-Rugwell, Kozel, Czechwar, all these big, big breweries they do have this coding applied in their canning rooms. Food processing, yeah. Cheese, meat, all those places, not all, but a lot of

them they already have this. How long have you been working with this company six years? So over six years has your nose improved So where you're almost like Forgive me folks Is it a bloodhound that has a really good nose And they can just smell things You know 10 miles off When you walk into a room like this

You're like oh man this room could use it Or are you like ah no it's not so bad Or you don't have any skill with your nose like that I built some sense during these years Yes And yeah I can smell way more than I used to Because I just

paying attention to this, right? What did you do before this? I'm general contractor. I build houses, I renovate houses, and I paint houses, yes. Oh, so it just fit well into what you're already doing. Are you still doing that, or is this full time? I did actually start painting business because of these nanocotings, because that gets me very closer to talk to the people.

Like one of my client, she, in Calgary, she was like, hey, Patrick, I want to make sure all the paints which you are using are zero VOC. basically volatile organic compounds three of those so I did start talking to her and I'm like okay what's the problem oh we are very sensitive like me and my kids so I show her the video which explains how our technology works I show her some videos from our previous clients and she was like yes this is what I want whole main floor I was like yeah sure you got it have you ever had anyone come back to you and say I just didn't like it no not a complaint not one

just because it's clean air. Yeah. I'm trying to think, you know, like, so next time I travel to Calgary, mind if I come visit, I kind of want to go smell a clean home. I'm just kind of, I'm kind of curious now, right? Like, I mean, it sounds so stupid, folks, but I'm like, I wonder if you can just notice when you walk in. Yeah, you can come visit my house.

Or our recent application was actually done at the Bow Valley Credit Union, the Calgary branch, which is at Avenida. So, Bow Valley Credit Union. Somehow that shouldn't. surprise me they put it in their offices yeah not in the entire offices but uh basically that main room where their stuff interact with the clients this is where the coding is applied yeah interesting it was done this june before they just opened the branch has it been a hard selling you know you bring you go back to covid COVID was a strange time

Mm-hmm. Since COVID, like, have you had people more curious by what you're doing? Or is it still been a tough sled in Canada? Because, you know, like, I don't know. At times, you go like, man, this seems like a real solution. Now, it isn't $2. Now, in fairness, what's the price on health? I 100% agree.

If you're sitting where you can't sleep at night and you have, you know, problems breathing and all the things, you're willing to try whatever you want and if you don't have those problems you might be gone ah no no I don't know am I going to do that or not because you haven't seen the light or maybe you haven't seen

or felt the or smelt the the the actual product you know you haven't actually got to feel it like is there a way anyone like just spitball with it is there a way

you could have a show room where this is all up and people could just come in and tour and see all these things. Maybe you already do this. No, but what I do at the corner store event, actually, this man... And I remember. I had those two aquariums.

Because it's a tough sell. You cannot touch it. You cannot feel it, right? So this is why I got this from my colleagues in Prague, basically from the founder. He showed me this test, basically two identical aquariums. There is small fan, which stimulates your furnace, your HVAC system. which moves there in your house. Then there is this light and a piece of board

which actually do something similar to your ceiling, right? So that one of the boards, it's just regular paint, so it's white, and the other board have our coating on, three layers of our coating. And then I put into those aquariums pretty much anything that does have a strong smell. I'm using garlic so people are not offend because of gasoline or polish remover

or something crazy, right? So I use garlic. and same amount of garlic goes into those two aquariums and one of the aquariums it's after five minutes it's odorless you don't smell any garlic and I've tried gasoline polish remover I've tried all kinds of different chemicals and it always works yeah if you I think you can recall me at the Cornerstone Forum

I was seeing double that day because I remember seeing it and in growing up in Czech Republic as kids did you do science fairs where kids had to have a project and they built something out and then they all get together and all the parents come in and they get graded on their project. Am I speak in Greek here?

Do you know what I'm talking about? Well, not so much because when I grew up, we were still under kind of like a communist control. So there was not very many of this kind of project. So for me, when I listen to you

and the thing you had at the two aquariums at the cornerstone, it reminded me of different kids when they have. have the science fair projects folks and you bring it out and then you know people walk around and they have to explain what they're doing and why they're doing it and the science behind it like that's what it you know when I my brief uh memory of it is I'm like oh it looks kind of like a science project right like it you're showing that there's no smell from the garlic in the one

room that has the coating I'll keep one to call it paint it has a coating compared to the other and yet it's almost like I didn't fully understand what you were trying to to tell me. I was like, uh-huh, okay, all right, why do I need this? Because in my brain, I go to garlic, even though you were saying bacteria is and everything else. If you're sitting having problems with health issues, right, you even think of kids, kids are getting sick lots. It's like, this becomes a solution for that, in theory. It does, yep. not only in theory but also in reality as well

yeah i just want to come see it now you know like i'm sitting here i just want to come see it now because i'm like now i start and understand what the heck you were trying to tell me back then and i'm like oh that's interesting like i just hmm i don't know if i got any more questions for it isn't that a sad thing i'm sitting here and i'm like now he's got me in my own head Yeah. Yeah, it's quite tough sell. So anyways, if I, if I can, if you don't mind tell you a little bit about history. So the first certification was 2006. So it's not new at all. Almost 20 years old. Next year, it's going to be 20 years anniversary. And Jan Prochaska, the founder of this technology, he was working on this for 15 years. And prior this, his dad was working on this for 20 years.

so there is years of testing trying studies you know until they actually get to the point that they realize that this is actually doing what it's supposed to be doing so cleaning the air and maintaining the buildings from outside if it's applied on exteriors right and cooling down the buildings like lots of lots of benefits yeah i got that flyer which shows that poor create lighthouse basically we applied the coding on that on the lighthouse in Mississauga, which is here in Canada, Toronto, not Calgary, not Loewminster. Yes, the poor credit lighthouse in Mississauga. So the city of Mississauga, they had to pressure wash the lighthouse three times a year

in order to keep it somehow clean. And we applied the coding on July 2019, six and a half years ago. And that lighthouse looks like brand new since then. No more issue from the lake, no dust from the streets, there is a busy street on the other side. side of the lake and problem solved that's kind of wild isn't it yeah it is it is wild so i'm trying to talk to all these kind of organizations and um people have different ideas about green deal right about what about green deal green deal green deal yeah but this could be part of it and actually something what is doing what it's supposed to be doing right you mean like

the green agenda the green like we all move to EVs and we saved the planet that thing this actually could do some healthy things for our communities that's what you're pointing on instead of doing something stupid moving to EVs you know the electricity it's not just like doesn't just appear sometimes you know from from from a fairer yes so the electricity needs to be produced somewhere somehow right and we know that solar panels windmills they do some but not much right so we need something steady stable to supply the all infrastructure and yeah this is for cleaning air i mean imagine all the overpasses where do we create emissions by driving right overpasses those soundproof walls

which helps people who have houses right next to the busy highways. It can be applied there. Cities. Cities have issues with having very high temperatures in the winter because there is no room for trees. There is only tall buildings, concrete, glass, asphalt. If the coding will be applied on the buildings on the outside, of course not which have only glass,

it would help a lot with clean air in the city, and also cooling airing cities, colder airing seas. Is there any chance of getting the guy who developed this on the podcast? Yeah, for sure. It's kind of curious now. So I assume he's living in a city where there's very little,

just like you point out, trees and everything, you've got automobiles, and you're seeing all the things, you're smelling all the things. You know, like, I don't know. As a kid, I went to L.A., and the smell from L.A., I was like, what is this?

I need to get back to the farm, you know? People complain about the manure. I'm like, holy man, go go walk around in L.A. for a day and tell me about smell. In theory, I guess this would be a question for him. I assume him and as you pointed out his father, we're looking at a problem of like, how do we, we can't, it's not like we can plant 500 trees or whatever next to the concrete jungle. It's like you've got to be creative about it. They've been very creative about it in a way that it could clean the air.

And what you're pointing out is you think, Oh, you put it on a building or you put it in a house. And you're like, no, you put it on the wall that guards the freeway because it would actually clean the air from all the automobiles where the traffic is. Is that what you're saying? Yep. Clean the air where the problem begins, right? And we create lots of emissions by driving our vehicles, which is normal, right, for 100 years.

Yep. That would be ideal for cities. I can hear Claire shout out to Claire I can hear Claire going Can we put it on the sky somewhere So them spraying us off the planes That we clean that up too Is that a possibility Patrick

Like I chuckle about it Because I'm like To me it seems this seems brilliant Right seems like I don't know I don't know what anyone else thinks I'm sitting here going like man I just want to go in a room now And just see what it feels like Like do you notice it? Is it something like you're like wow

That's cool On the same token It seems like everything the powers that be are doing don't look at positive solutions they look at

different ways of making us dependent on them. So like to me if you're making the air clean you're making people

healthier you're going to make them less dependent and so it's like well maybe there's a reason why you haven't had a whole lot of luck with the powers of B

yeah that's exactly right. Any final thought for the audience, Patrick? I don't mean to rush you out, but I'm like, I'm meeting a guy from the check and he is, you know,

right to the point. Right to the point. If you got anything else, you fire away. No, I think that'll be it for my side. Yeah, and I would be very very glad if we can

kind of exchange our information on our YouTube channels or websites. So what I'll do for the podcast folks is down the show notes I'll put Patrick's website and Patrick's YouTube channel that way you can go look at some of the things you can go look at

the product itself where else would you like them like you know if they're sitting in Calgary listen to this I assume you got a a business phone number or would you just direct them all to the website? Yeah website business phone number sure what's your phone number well I don't know

do you want to give out your phone number I don't know sure yeah 587-574-1777 There you go, folks. And the website, quite simple, wecleanair.ca.ca. Wecleanair.ca. That's it. If you're looking for maybe an interesting solution to, I don't know, you know, it's like, can you say, you know, clean up the, if you go down the green side of it, they've really irritated me on that side, like immensely. But I think of you as like, not in the same breath.

sorry but like um just like edison motors when i first met chase barbers chase barber i was against anything to do with an eve then i listened to him talking i'm like that makes so much sense why aren't you do why aren't they why aren't we doing that and then with you it's like well we could clean the air i'm like well i don't know is the air that bad and then i'm like i kind of chuckle because i'm like i think it's the government just ham fisting me on everything like they just they have no ability to do it just seems like they can't like address the root cause of the issues whether they want to or not folks is a different story and um this is an idea that i find very interesting you know like i'd heard a different ones in covid like putting uh um

sorry you could probably do this in the air ducts putting like red uv lights or or something like that maybe i'm butchering this to clean the the air coming in and cleaning it that way this is a similar idea but it's a coating you put on the ceiling and you You never have to worry about it again, essentially. Yeah, the warranty for our applications is 10 years only, and it's because of the government restrictions. If it's not recoded, re-sprayed, repainted, it will be working even after 20 years, 30 years.

Again, it's not a chemical reaction. It's a photocatalytic reaction, so there is nothing to wear. You're saying you can only guarantee it for 10 years because of government legislation. That's right. Why, I think, why would the government care if you guaranteed it for 20 years? I don't know. Don't ask me, I'm not the government.

I have no idea. They said 10 years is the maximum. If anything, if I was a government, wouldn't I be like, you want to guarantee it for 20 years? You go right ahead, right? Like, I would think it would be companies pushing for that number to be less so they're not on the hook for problems that happened five years in or three years in. We guarantee it for one year, but not for anything after that because we can't possibly know what you're going to do with it. You're saying you guarantee it for 10 years. Yep, that's right.

Hmm. All right. Folks, Patrick, thank you for coming into the studio and doing this. Thanks for making the trip all the way to, Lloyd. I appreciate it. Thank you, Sean. I'll be curious what people say on this. Either way, it's taken some time, but I'm glad you finally made it and we got to sit here and do this.

Yeah. And you are more than welcome to visit my house. Oh, folks, believe me. I'm calling Patrick up the next time I'm in Calgary. I'm going for a visit because I want to smell this clean air. I'm kind of curious. You will see happy wife because my wife doesn't clean our house. There is no dust, no Polans, our house, it's clean.

No mapping, no vacuuming, none of that stuff. Boy, you got any animals? Do you have a cat? We have a dog, yep. You have a dog? Yep. No dog smell. No, but dog doesn't shed?

No, not our dog, no. You have a, what do they call that? I can't think. Minishnauzer, they were actually breed for people with any kind of allergies. So the dog doesn't shed and doesn't create any, let's say, bad pollutants in the air. So when you say there's no cleaning to do, obviously you spill something on the floor that's a little different. But you're saying, like, from settling of the air particles, this pain. takes that all the way, this coating, forgive me.

Yeah, I'm talking about again, airborne particles, dust, pollen, bacteria. All gone. All gone. Yep. 99.99%. Well, that's interesting. Yep.

All right. That's why I told you at the beginning that I did a test on our house. The bedrooms, they have same amount of dust as any other house in Calgary. but have kitchen living room dining room zero dust folks patrick thanks again for hopping in you give me more to think on and yeah when i'm in calgary i'll come bug you because i'm kind of curious now right i think if you haven't made a few of us curious i'd be surprised uh thanks again for making the trip here thank you kindly