Shaun Newman Podcast - #953 - Chuck Prodonick

Episode Date: November 18, 2025

Chuck Prodonick spent 20+ years in the Canadian military. He is a retired sergeant who served as a member of the Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry and served in 4 tours overseas. We discuss 300,000 public servants into the military, the idea of “whole-of-society" defense and an independent Alberta military. Tickets to Cornerstone Forum 26’: https://www.showpass.com/cornerstone26/Tickets to the Mashspiel:https://www.showpass.com/mashspiel/Silver Gold Bull Links:Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/Email: [e-mail] Grahame: [phone]Bow Valley Credit UnionBitcoin: www.bowvalleycu.com/en/personal/investing-wealth/bitcoin-gatewayEmail: [e-mail] Use the code “SNP” on all ordersProphet River Links:Website: store.prophetriver.com/Email: [e-mail] your voice heard: Text Shaun 587-217-8500

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subscribe make sure to leave a review make sure to share with a friend now let's get on to that tale of the tape today's guest 20 years in the Canadian military. He's a retired sergeant who served as a member of the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry. I'm talking about Chuck Prodnick. So buckle up. Here we go. like it out here well i tell you what uh you're getting i was telling you before we started and i put it out on substack uh on sunday to uh some of the paids well to the paid subscribers not

some of the paid subscribers that this is going to be the final in person in the studio next week we're lining up the first uh round table um i think i've mentioned this to people um i thought about putting you out there today and i'm like no i made a commitment in my in my brain that uh the first roundtable out there was going to be blue color the guys who helped build it right like yeah and in fairness you've been out there and helped do yeah i did too yeah yeah you did that's fine but uh there's a there's some different companies some different guys i want to talk about building things when we get out there because obviously we're sitting in something we built but uh you have the honor being the last guy in the golden chair in in this studio uh because hopefully next week uh you know

fingers crossed nothing comes up uh we're going to be in there um and that's saying let's not forget this okay we'll just we'll just keep adding to chuck stack okay the uh the silver coin from silver gold bull one out um all guests who come in studio you know it's why chuck keeps making man oh man yeah this is just for the the coins alone dude it's uh my hoard is grown expensive i in all seriousness get yourself some silver uh it's get yourself gold if you can afford it we've talked about the trend of where silver's at and gold is at in this last little bit, and that should be an indicator to everybody to get their hands on something tangible. You can diversify your safeguards as far as whether your metals or Bitcoin or

whatever you want to get into, but if something goes wrong, the thing in your hand is what's going to provide you with some security. Yeah, well, Silver, I love, I've been doing it now for probably like the last month, month and a half in the ad reads. I always love checking where the price is to do. Yeah, yeah. So like, you know, the lovely thing, You can go all the way back longer, but I like looking at the last year. So a year ago, silver was $43.70. Canadian, I've got to keep clarifying that because I got American listeners. And everybody loves to talk about American dollars, which I understand somewhat.

But then I'm like, I'm sitting in Canada. I'm going to do it in Canadian dollars. And today where we sit as we're recording this, it's at 7151. Yeah. Right? Like, I remember when I first bought my first little bit of silver, it was like $29. dollars mine mine was about 19 bucks plus four dollar spot price so i mean that's going back 20 years to not even 20 years and no not even 20 years at all and uh it's shooting up pretty

significantly right now and anybody that's looking around the world at the geopolitical situation you can see why well and not to meant the geopolitical not to mention what our government's doing and everything else now um appreciate you coming in and doing it and being in studio again again because you know like I was saying on Monday's podcast with Bruce de Torres I was saying to him like it's just difficult doing interviews virtually yeah it's so much better in person and like here in Canada this 300,000 public servants like I pulled it up here mm-hmm okay so the actual plan is whole of society whole of society right very much I played hockey in Finland I talking to the GM of the team at the time he would have been I don't know forgive me I think

right around 50 and he was still an active you know every two years they had to go back for two weeks of service I think is what it was forgive me if anyone's tuned in from Finland and they can depends on the tier of conscription I just air quoted in case you're listening um not not watching it depends on the tier of conscription and their aid and their age and their uh abilities and skill sets and deferment statuses and all that there's a lot in that package it's not conscription as we think about it like world war one or two where it's like there's a world threat you're conscripted you're basically going infantry or some combat arms more or less and you're going to go into the meat grinder there's I mean their level their type of

conscription it works for them there's five and a half million of them in Finland they have near peer threat on their doorstep, which they can say, well, which is Russia, which is a real threat to them that they've had their problems with them before. There's a couple wars, a lot of big fights with them. And Finland has to have the ability to defend every country should. We don't take it seriously because even though we're not American, which is our greatest claim to fame, if you listen to anybody on the left, we rely on them for our very existence and our safety.

um the style of conscription in finland encompasses essentially again a population of five and a half million people has a supplementary reserve of about 900,000 people I'm only up to infantry math in my life but that's about a fifth of their population just under a fifth of their population is considered a reservist um they have a depending on the tier again and the age and what you're capable of they have a relatively decent type of training um their model is is good as far as things go they also have a natural defendable place in finland i mean you've been there it uh it's been hard for anybody to come

in and knock them around and they're pretty tough people they're very tough people so why is that matter to us? Well, at the beginning of the year, I'll go back to 2015 when the liberals first started tossing around the word conscription. Just to get that, we'll throw it out into the never worse and we'll see what happens, what kind of pushback we get,

what the feedback is and we'll do some polling and some stuff like that because the numbers in our military were just egregious. They couldn't get recruitment up. Hasn't gotten any better. I mean, I think this last year, since they absolutely did away with standards, essentially,

And like massive signing bonuses, they've gotten some better numbers, but we're still short like 15,000 people in our military, which is already too small. Even if they filled that, we're, we're too small for today's threat, for any threat. So they toyed with that then. They didn't really get a lot of pushback on it in any sense because it was just floated. At the beginning of this year, our CDS and her Mary Band of Muppets signed a directive. now she'll say she's misquoted or this misinterpreted she helped create and then signed the directive about conscription based on the finish model then she's got a team actively working on how does this come into play how do we make this palatable to Canada um now we saw

last week they floated the we're going to just Excel spreadsheet sheet the civil service people, 300,000 of them. We're going to move them onto another spreadsheet and call them our supplementary reserves. This is ridiculous and stupid on a number of levels, but I'll tell you one of the reasons, and there's many reasons, well, several reasons why they want to do this, why they want to play this shell game with the numbers. We are bad partners in NATO. I think NATO's junk anyway, but we are bad partners in this thing that we're supposed to be helping our allies with. We're bad partners because we never meet the 2%. We rely on everybody for everything, especially the Americans who everybody finds it, you

know, trendy to hate for some reason. Um, so if they can move 300,000 people in that spreadsheet, what do you think they'll do about their wages? They'll, they'll end the training week long training budget they've allocated for this according to what everything I've read so they'll just slide that and bump that 1.4 of the 2% rat right now and they'll just keep trying to edge towards that 2% they'll keep trying to bump that over a little bit you think those 300,000 people are physically or emotionally or mentally capable of they don't even they're the same people out for those of you listening out there and maybe some of you are civil servants that don't want to go back to the office after COVID that they're fighting tooth and nail that it's too

dangerous in the office you want you in front of me when the Russians come or the Chinese come or whoever the hell comes that's really what you want but it's not about that nobody actually in the government expects those people are going to do a damn thing if something happens it's not about that it's about the shell game and it also then opens the door to say well look we did it with them and nothing on nothing bad's happened to them for like the last six months now we're going to do the same with a population at at large people are out there thinking well chuck you're you're crazy well i'm probably crazy but i don't think i'm crazy about this and this is where the trickle

comes and so if you're anywhere up to the age of 65 if they go with the finish model which they keep referencing which they continually reference um and it's easy enough to go out there and ask rock about the finish model it's there for you can figure it out it's easy reading go ahead it's a simple read you can see the breakdown you can see how they do it but you can see why it works for them if you if you can or if you don't mind I already groked it

here's what it said Finland's military lies heavily on a conscription based model to build and maintain a massive reserve force emphasizing territorial defense against potential invasions the supplementary reserve or auxiliary reserve

includes all male citizens 18 to 60 who serve who have completed or are exempt from conscript service totaling around 870,000 to 900,000 personnel as of 2025. This pool supplements the primary reserve, trained conscripts ready for immediate wartime activation, forming the core of the 280,000 strong wartime strength. The system is designed for rapid mobilization with reservists assigned to specific wartime units during their initial service. A proposed reform draft in 2025 aimed to extend the upper-age limit to 65 by 2031, adding an additional 125,000 troops and pushing the total reserves

towards 1 million. The Finnish Defense Forces Prioritories whole of society defense, that's where you're getting this from, who reserve, where reserves handle logistics, local security, and rear echelon roles, while active forces focus on frontline combat training is mandatory but limited to maintain civil civilian life with incentive for voluntary participation women can join voluntarily but the system is male centric due to universal conscription and when i was saying when i was playing hockey there the gym of our team and actually some of the guys i played with were all a part of it and they talked about it every two years i remember thinking as a younger guy

like actually that's it's actually a pretty good model here i sit you fast forward you know that is about 15 years ago now if i'm doing my math correctly and i go but I don't believe in the wars we're about to fight. Like I'm, and then on top of it, you talk about like, you know, if I'm going, if I got Chuck and Jamie and others, you know, Willie and all the men I've met through you two fine gentlemen, I'm like, I feel pretty safe in that group. You talk about 300,000 civil servants, no offense to civil servants. Or maybe, you know, I should get twos in here because twos would be, oh, the feds to civil

service. I'm just like, that is like showing up to play Connor McDavid. with your rec hockey team and expecting to have a competitive game. It's like, no, you're going to get absolutely thumped. And we're not talking about goals in a net. We're talking about life and death. Life, yeah. That's what people need to.

Look, the army, the military should only be concerned with murder math. That's it. That's all. It's not nice. It's not palatable. It's, but that is and should be. the only focus of any military is how do I out murder math my enemy?

And that's all it breaks. I joke about infantry math all the time, but that's what it breaks down to. It's all about having the best, toughest, most resilient soldiers you can have, regardless of what their job is, but the infantry is the building block. And then your other combat arms, artillery, tanks,

the drone drivers now, engineers, combat medics, stuff like that. I'm missing stuff, but you get the gist, the people that are going to meet metal and meet, they need to be the toughest. They need to be so tough that nobody really wants, it doesn't matter if there's a hundred of them or 200 of them. Nobody wants to mess with them. We don't have that anymore.

We haven't had it in about a generation now since the last war. Look, we, I remember, remember state was last week. I've gone to remember, I've gone to remember stays ceremonies forever. They mean a little more now today than they did, you know, back before I'd done what I'd done. So I go to St. Albert, which is near where I live, a little town where I've lived many times. I love it there. I've always liked the ceremony there. It's outdoors.

And there's usually a couple thousand, three thousand, four thousand people there, whatever it is. And we go and you not, they see a few friendly faces there, guys with other racks on that you've, you know, known for years or just another fella. lady that has a, you know, a bunch of gongs on their chest and you don't know them and you still say hello and nod your head and it's that kind of thing. And this year, I noticed it for the first time, especially after talking to a few buddies. And I'm going to single out the Patricia's, my old regiment, the dirty Patricia's. I saw about a dozen of them there. And no Patricia's ever going to have ever been accused of being like the most drill parade ground turned out people ever it wasn't we were field guys the parade stuff was leave that to some other eastern

unit but at least for remembrance day shine it up turn it out get a haircut shave and show up spit and shiny these guys long hair beards scruffy not that well turned out not a metal between the dozen of them and i'm talking there was everything from privates corporals jack sergeants and a couple officers in the mix of what i saw all in a glob together and every other veteran around me with gongs on their chest was exchanging glances like what in the fuck like what what is this and for me as a patricia looking at this and the worst part of it is is they got that swagger that that cocky swagger and i get the cocky swagger i embraced it i was it that was me i'm not saying i didn't have that but they haven't learned the humility that goes with

doing the thing the hard thing they don't have a gong on their chest but they're strutting it and they look like absolute shit on top of it. And it's, it was in every veteran I saw looked around like, what in the hell is this? What's, this is the state of things. Then they're not some log unit of,

you know, pick a trade out there that I didn't expect anything from. And I'm not going to list one and insult them, but you know who you are. And, uh, you know who you are. But at least with the patricias on remembrance.

day I expected to turn out not under the bray the one guy I don't know how I got his bray on his head maybe with a shoe horn because that there was enough hair coming out of there he could have been a clown the beards on them that just they look like ass and people might be out there going well Chuck what does it matter what they look like because that's the building block that's the first building block is dress and deportment it's the discipline it builds the discipline to go the rest of the way we don't have that anymore that's gone from our military there's no standard of dress and deportment.

I'm saying no. I know that they have something written down as far as dress. I'm going to air quote the fuck out of it today, I guess. There's some level of dress and deportment standard somewhere, but it's nothing really even enforceable. It certainly isn't something that makes them look like soldiers. My guess is, and this is having talked to any number of my friends about it, once we saw what we saw on that day, in the last year or so, is that they want this image.

like what we had overseas when we hadn't showered or shaved or cleaned ourselves in a month of being in the field and you look scruffy you have some long not me i shaved my head all time but you guys would have longer hair from not having haircuts and there's this like well they must be that's the look they're going for and they've achieved it back here for some reason what they would ever having done anything well when we came back to the the world here we all had to shave and be clean and well turned out shined everything apparently that's just not a thing now so the state of our military is so broken that that's where that's at right now so they're going to just well we'll move some people over on an Excel spreadsheet another thing oh yeah another thing about remember and stay because there was a lot around to remember say this year I didn't know if I'd bring it up or not but we're on it anyway or I'm on it anyway so I'm going to go for it um a few days before remember and stay a few of the big influences on on the Twitter

they played that clip of the coach's corner from 2006 in Don Cherry and he's holding up a picture up there frame like a picture and it's my platoon it's my platoon two platoon the red devils that he's holding it up and we've got the cut out cardboard thing of him that he'd sent us to take a picture with or just to have in our we were supposed to just keep it in our quarters kind of thing the big ass tent but we took a picture with it and sent it to him and he sent us each a signed copy back saying give them hellboys something like that i've got it framed on my wall and i remember i watched that i watched that when i got back to canada somebody sent it to me and i was like holy shit that's

pretty that's pretty wild you know um after what we just been through that he's recognizing that and called us handsome and he's not lying but um he said that a bunch look we look like as hockey players handsome boys and um it got us a lot of us were like fuck you see this it's on Twitter you they bring up the coach's quarter thing we're texting or calling each other about his you know memories nostalgia and it got me thinking about where we are now and one of my friends had said you know I never felt abandoned overseas never felt it didn't matter if we were used as bait which is half the time you're out there is you're some sort of bait to get the bigger fight going never felt abandoned or used or left behind

because you knew the next guy would do anything to come get you you had some guy like Jamie you think he's leaving anyone behind no and I worked with a lot of jamies nobody quite like Jamie shout out to Jamie we have probably good for the army there was only one eight but you knew that critters coming for you you knew it there's no doubt um you knew that the unit next to you if you got bogged in they were coming for you we went and did it ourselves When the British were being pounded to shit in Helmand province, send them, send us, we'll go. We went. The Americans need somebody to come get them.

We went. We needed help. They all came. I'm not mentioning the other NATO countries because I have no use for the other NATO countries. Pretty much. But then you come home. Well, before you come home, one of one of the other NATO countries, one of the other. my young guys brought this up while he's not young now but he was young back then brought it up

before remembrance day he goes i knew things were going to be bad for us before we got back home because of how we were treated on calf now calf had about 50,000 troops some are sometimes more depending on the surge levels but back in 06 we had somewhere around that number of people of various countries and where our car park was where we dropped our vehicles and our storage area and all that back to our big-ass tents, the notorious big-ass tents, while everybody else had air-conditioned little trailers and fancy, the fancy tents, the little, the ones that you could actually survive in, we were given circus tents, basically, with a couple of AC hoses that did nothing. So we were, and like these beds that you couldn't have put a 50-year-old kid in, like these bunk

beds that just fell apart, repeat, so you just, they were useless. So we were just preferred to be outside the wire at that point. But you'd walk back and back then or on that tour, if you were in a leadership role, you'd stay behind to do the next briefing or the, you know, an after action type thing and your boys would go back to the tents to doff kit and shower up and go eat or do whatever they wanted to do for a day or two till you went back out. But so many of the times that those boys would walk back that 800 meters back to our tent, some Fobbit, some camp wean. of a higher rank than them, of any higher rank than my boys, or our boys, would see them just disheveled, beards, or half-beards, dirty as fuck, because they've been out for a month, quite often literally having just left combat or an IED or some other situation, extensive combat operations, no sleep, poor food, looking like they've been dragged

through it clothes sometimes falling off of them because your clothes start to rot after a while with all the sweat and the dirt like they're just falling apart and they'd get jacked up by one of these fobits like ripped apart like what you couldn't have bloused your boots back and they just come on glued on these guys so it got to the point where we forego doing these little you know leadership stay behind things we just walk with our boys intermingled and every time one of these Fobitz at that point would try to come unglued on our guys. We would then come unglued on them. And we could feel it. There was a divide. There was a monstrous divide. They're playing like rec hockey back there, rec ball hockey back there. They're doing all this stuff at Canada

house, all these occasions. And their world is not our world. Yeah, we're in the same army technically, but we're not in the same army. And we felt it. Now sure, we're already assholes. We're We're already those guys. We're the guys that we're supposed to be shoved to the side and nobody wants to hang out with us. And that's fine. We, we embraced it. We, we probably propagated as much of that as we deserved. That's fine.

But when we came, when we came back in that feeling of we are not in the same army anymore. And I'm probably offending a lot of people out there, but that's not new. We should have all known what we would face when we came back to the country. now a lot of people were very supportive they really were but you think you put on a mask to go over there but that's not the case the people that were putting on a mask to over there they're the ones that got losers limp or cowarded out real quick and got sent back that happened like more than a few times the mask you wear is when you come home for most of us to pretend that this is normal to pretend that you know what we're going through here is actually normal and

It's far from fucking normal. I think more people are waking up to that. But for us who've seen what we've seen over there, that's the new normal for us. You come back home, it's not like we can tell people what we did. And people didn't give a shit one way or the other for the most part. But even if they did, it's not like you can get into great detail about things. I've said stuff on here. I've told you some stuff.

I've told you about 10% of stuff. You know, and that's enough. because you don't people wouldn't get it they would never look at you the same if they knew the things you had to do the things you've seen the things that you do to save the guy next year or they've done to save you no one's going to get that they can't put that in a show or a movie so you just wear the mask and that's what you do well that mask starts to slip for people after a while after a number of years of wearing that mask it gets awfully damn heavy it gets awfully damn tiresome to wear that mask and eventually just stop giving

a shit or you can go a number of ways i've got a lot of friends who ate a weapon or did it another way or got mated you know thanks to the government they're going to cut 4.3 billion from veterans affairs but maids still going strong that's how much they care about veterans so before you get conscripted think about that for a minute but you come back here and you've done everything they've asked you to do and then some because that's what it takes to win it's not about being a boy scout or a saint over there it doesn't matter what the next war is they in the incident if they send boy scouts and saints we're losing you want some asshole like me or jamie doing it all i would have thought is that the government, and I'm not blaming just liberals,

any government we've had in there, conservative or liberal, has forgotten about veterans. And if you're a veteran listening, you know this to be true. Doesn't matter what party you're a favorite of. The liberals take it one step further with spite and, like, resentment. But the conservatives are no friend of ours either. So you're forgotten about, that's fine.

I wish it stopped of being forgotten about, but actively hated by the government as a whole other thing. Used as a prop one minute, vilified the next minute, it's always some white soldier out there that's doing a thing. It's always this, that, or the other. But we can have a stamp for the 10 guys from that community that had 10 dudes serving in the Canadian military 100 plus years ago. I thought we were all veterans. You know, this lead-up now, every other special subsect of veteran has their own special day. Wonderful. I thought we were all veterans.

You want to drive a wedge in the veteran community? I'll tell you what, that's a good way to do it. Bravo to the liberals. Like, great. Every, you know, special subgroup of veterans that I do know are served beside or fop beside. They don't want those days. They think they're ridiculous too. Like they consider themselves veterans before they consider themselves some other identifiable or list or category, you know, before a veteran.

Because they've been treated not by us, their fellow veteran, any differently or shitty, but because they've gone through the same thing, they don't want to be now identified out again. they like to be identified as just a veteran as shitty as that is most of the time now I know a lot of the listeners especially to this show are supportive of veterans I've had nothing but fantastic feedback anytime I'm on here or in person or on the Twitter messages or texts or phone calls it's only ever been great for the most part I guess

there are always haters and I bring a lot of that one myself even my fans hate me but people need to understand that if you're going to support what's happening with this government as far as a soft conscription and believe me i think it's going to go that way i think we're going to see different tiers of it and that's how they'll make it palatable that's how they'll sell it like we're talking to uh with who is in here a little bit ago they will do what the the fins do and it's very smart if you have a say it's a package of a hundred days a year that you're conscripted for say you qualify for that or that's what you want to go for well maybe we ease some of your

student loans and you're only doing two weeks or a month of soft service you know and then maybe you do the 200 day package and that package gets you well you're entitled preferential treatment for a civil service job well that's shit that's great or maybe you do the 300 year whatever the next package is, the next tier, because that's how the Finns kind of work it. And you get like this bonus and this and this. Here's your new car. I don't know, whatever the thing will be. But that's how they'll sell it.

And that's how they'll make our 2% look like we've got 2%. Now this isn't a government that has something like 145 generals, admirals, flag officers. Basically that tier of officer, general officer. 145 do you know how many tanks we have how many tanks do we have truck we have last my friends told me about 75 tanks there's about an additional 20 more recovery style tanks arvals and whatnot like big big recovery that you need when you're moving tanks around of the 75ish tanks about 20 of those are training caliber tanks like they're the older leopard models they're they're like you know

you would never put them near a front line if you didn't have to there they're there been they're just training versions kind of not training versions but they're older tanks that you wouldn't that haven't been upgraded the rest of our fleet of tanks call it 50 just to be generous of which any at any one point half of them are down for maintenance or or are unserviceable like you couldn't physically deploy them at this time but we so you have now I can hear people out there right now. Am I hearing bad as it is? I can hear this. They're saying, well, Chuck, with the new war that they're fighting in the Ukraine, tanks are obsolete. No, tanks are not

obsolete. Tanks still have a role. We'll always have a role. Much like the infantry will always have a role. You do not hold ground with anything other than infantry. Drones have changed warfare absolutely have changed warfare forever and you watch this next war if it's near peer near peer is you know an equal type adversary not like what we fought overseas when we fought I wouldn't consider them near peer they were an insurgent war but you fight somebody else that also is running tanks and a fleet and air force not our army because we have none but a real army drones have changed it and the next war will be mass drone swarms it will be if heaven forbid we

ever have to fight China we're going to face tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of drones we we're incapable of defeating that we're incapable of defeating anything at this point my point to that little side rant is we are so top heavy in our army with a hundred and forty five generals with limited working equipment with an understaffed front line version of any sort of fighting force and now they're going to soft pocket behind that 300,000 civil servants so that they can take that Excel spreadsheet to NATO and say look what we did 300,000 troops right here. So if you look at the 300,000 roughly civil servants that are going to form up a supplementary

supplementary reserve system, if I'm doing the mental gymnastics listening, it's like, well, they have to meet NATO, Trump is pushing on them to meet NATO requirements. And so that's spending, how it's doing it. Spending military requirements, et cetera. So they look, okay. So let's just move over some people that we can do. And we'll hide it in voluntary and we'll hide in all these things so that now we can show, listen, we have 500,000 troops or whatever the number comes out to be, so we can actually

show it. And then we take their wages because now we're already paying them anyways, and now that starts to add into the budget. Yes. For every, so, you know, you go, if your twos, two's on mash of last week was like, Cardi's a genius. And twos, yes, I did clip that out, and I will be playing that again. But he's like, you know, we have to, in his mind, we have to lower the amount of civil servants so just put them on the front line and what he'll do our workforce type thing what i think a lot of people are talking about is okay it starts with civil servants how long until we get this whole of society and i got kids you got kids a whole lot of listeners got kids not to mention i'm right smack in the middle of the age requirements for mandatory 39 jesus i was your age of almost your

age of my second tour over there. So I look at it and I'm like, you know, there was a point in time in my life where I was like sitting in Finland where I'm like, actually this is, you know, that's a way to like actually boost. Now I sit and look at it and I go, okay, to defend your nation, we should have it. Like we can sit and poke all the holes in what the Canadian military is doing. It's like, should you have no military then? No, I would think you would say, no, we need a strong military force.

Yes. It's how do you get to that? It would be one question. The other question is now, as I sit here at 39, I look at it and I go, well, I don't want to go to Ukraine. I have no bone in my body that's like, yeah, put me on the front line there so I can just become another statistic of the millions dead. Because some drones dropping shit on you.

Right. And for what? Like, I just don't, I think there's a ton of Canadians that are just like, that doesn't make any sense. You know, when I had Martin Armstrong on here, man, how long ago is that conversation? Martin's been on an awful lot. I'd position them, you know, like, if Alberta got independence, yeah, we wouldn't have to go to war because we would be our own country.

Yeah. And he's like, yeah, that makes sense. And I'm like, that might be the sole reason of going for independence. You know, the money and everything are all bonuses. It's like, if we're going to conscript all of Canada and you don't want it, get out of the country so you can say, we're just not interested in fighting your war. Quebec's an interesting case study in that. I mean, they had riots during their conscription phase.

in I believe both world wars they they were like I don't know if the riots were in the first world war or second one specifically but they were they were absolutely opposed to doing anything even military I mean and I mean they've kind of continued that tradition even today I mean we've talked about that people know how I feel about their units but I'm not against, I've said this on your show before, I'm not against a good war, you know, a war that needs to be fought, but it needs to be won and won quickly. These wars were, is there, is there such a thing? As winning quickly? Yes. Not anymore. Because it's not about the actual war. It's about the companies that are profiting from the war. It's about whatever group of politicians is

profiting from the war. I mean, to go to your Quebec thing for a second, it says, uh, constrict, conscription was introduced in Canada with the Military Service Act August 1917. There was strong opposition in Quebec and among farmers elsewhere, but the only significant violent episode happened in Quebec City

over Easter weekend, 1918, triggered by the arrest of young men who couldn't produce his exemption papers and crowds of several thousands attacked the draft office, burned records and clashed with police and soldiers. So Quebec, there you go. I mean,

I could go on ad nauseum about them, but whatever. But my point to that is, is you want to believe that when these people, and I give it a year, maybe a little more. Maybe, forgive me, maybe just for people wondering how Canada is going to react to this. World War II, it said that the plebiscite results polling Canada, see if they were in favor of conscription. Canada, overall 63% said yes. And Quebec, 73% said no.

Yeah. So you can, when you're referencing the two world wars in Quebec. Yeah. There's the part of the history at least. The divide. Yes. And you watch like everything else in this country, in the state that it is, when one of these things is rolled out as a nationwide policy, there'll be a Quebec exemption or a

Quebec special, eh, here's a thing for you. We're just going to do it to them, not to you, Quebec. You can sit there and sip syrup all day. it'll be the rest of the country that picks up the burden. So it'll be one of those things where Alberta, and if Smith is, Daniel Smith is still the premier, she can go, well, what about us, you know, um, why? Well, when you read it, Quebec and farmers had the biggest disagreements with it. Well, farmers, obviously, I mean, you've got to maintain that.

Now, I know, I don't know if it happened here because I don't, I actually don't know. I know in the US it was either the oldest son was exempt or, or, or, something along those lines like at least one of the sons don't remember the youngest or the oldest didn't necessarily have to go I think I could be wrong on that too I could be

I never thought I'd have to discuss conscription in my lifetime well if I come back to today you know like where we sit you were saying they throw a thing I didn't know about 2015 once again I'll say this is over and over nauseam you can rock it in 2015 I was clueless

I wasn't paying attention anything if they'd thrown out conscription. I was, you know, we're just expecting our first kid. I had just been recently married. I was working in the oil field. I didn't give two craps. Yeah. It's playing senior hockey. Actually, 2015, we won the, that's where that picture's from right there. No big deal. Yeah, senior hockey. Sorry, I'm pointing. Nobody can see it. This is my Hillmon, Hitman, Jersey. Some good-looking boys there, too. And, uh, yeah, showed up to all the Hillman, gents. We just finished winning in 2015, the first championship for Hillman. and 30, what was it?

37 years, 38 years. So that was a cool, cool moment. But I just say that to mean, I wasn't paying attention to any of this. Now I'm paying. You were 24. 20, no, I was 20, what was that in 2015, folks? I was. Oh, you were young.

29. 29. I can't, infantry math. I can't do it. My shoes are wrong. But you're young. You're damn young. And yeah, nobody at that age is really paying attention.

Well, once again, even if I was like going, oh, the Finland model, I just come from Finland. I'm like, actually, that makes a ton of sense. But you fast forward to how this government has, since I've been paying attention, I'm like, this is wild. But I go back to what you talk about. They throw something out to gauge the public's opinion on it, you know, and it's interesting because on substack, I just noticed this, literally on Sunday. I can now do a soft rollout of my substack. And this is what you're talking about. So the soft roll out on substack is I can pick between one to, well, you do more than that,

but let's say two to five different titles of my substack heading. It sends it to the 20% of the email list, finds out what hits the best, and it'll send it to the rest of the 80% as that headline. I'm like, wow, that's really smart. And what you're talking about with throwing it out to the public. And we saw this with a central bank digital currency. They kind of threw it out there to see what the audience was going to do. Canada vehemently, I don't know, rejected a central bank digital currency in the first rollout.

And you can see where they'll roll it out again. Yes. They'll smooth it and massage it. And the circumstances will change and they'll roll it again. And what they're looking for is the Canadian public to say, yes, that's a good idea. And so when you talk about the $300,000, they throw it out. And I go, that is an insane thought, right? Because my brain looks at it like, it'd be like an NHL team.

calling up rec hockey players to play in the NHL. That doesn't make any sense. If you want a military, a great military, it isn't about numbers. Certainly you need the numbers, but you need the hardened, battled men to go in there and be a tough fighting force. All those stories they get told about from World War I, World War II, any of a conflicts we've been involved in come from very strong men. And you listen to them talking, you're like, man, alive. You have gone through some stuff. You talk about numbers.

Numbers are important. And I'll tell you, so we'll use 2006, because that was my first Afghan tour as an example. Now, overall, through the 10 plus years of conflict, we were in the war we were in in Afghanistan, 40,000 Canadian soldiers deployed to, 40,000 individual soldiers deployed to Afghanistan, roughly. Of that 40,000, about 7,500 did more than one tour. I have friends who did three, four tours. I did two. I have friends who did multiple tours.

You did two tour. You're talking about Afghanistan specifically. I did four in total. Yes, thank you. But two to, I'm talking just Afghanistan right now. So 40,000 soldiers deployed there, 7,500 of which did more than one tour. At the time, I think we were around 32 million Canadians in the country. Our military didn't really bubble above, call it 65,000.

thousand i think you know i'm that's a rough number there's if i'm thinking back on that period like regulars and reserves maybe a little higher you're talking somewhere around less than now going back to the 40 000 number less and of that so 40 000 deployed 7500 went more than once of the 7500 the overwhelming majority of those people were combat arms specifically infantry combat engineers, artillery, people in the meat. We were, of the 40,000 of 32 million, again, infantry math, that's less than 1% of the nation, went to war. Many went repeatedly to that war.

I've heard it ad nauseum since I've been back and not knocking these people. I'm not admonishing them. or shitting on them in any shapes way or form it's an honest response in question I I've heard it hundreds of times at gatherings questions through Twitter or in person whatever I wonder how I would have done had I gone to war and my response used to be all who knows right like my response in the last few years has always been well why didn't you you coulda it was a 10 plus year shooting war we were taking anybody but people want to think about that thought and I'm not knocking them for it because sometimes

when I give a little pushback on it to them like well why didn't you well I had a family and I had a I had a family I had young kids we all did I don't know anybody who didn't have a mum or a dad mostly you know we're a brother sister wife kids everybody did I a lot of the guys I led overseas had left college or solid jobs to get dirty to go do it because they felt it was a thing that needed doing I'll leave that there and I'm going to project that to where we're going now 300,000 people on an Excel spreadsheet will be shuffled that will impress NATO because NATO's doing the same thing in all these other countries Germany all these other countries are starting that shell game because of Trump.

And unfortunately, it's because of Trump. He's put pressure on them for so long to actually do something. They're doing something. It's the wrong thing. Our shelves are still empty. The kit hasn't been replaced. It's been destroyed in Ukraine. Russia has not been degraded.

Russia is, and people can go out there and I can hear them oon and on right now. I don't give a shit. Don't give a liquid shit. The Russia isn't degraded. They now have a million plus men who've been in combat. They've lost a ton of men. I'm not saying they haven't. But the ones who've made it out of the meat grinder are really experienced dudes in this new mechanism of warfare.

They've actually, and I mean, this is mainstream now, the North Koreans have shuffled something like 100,000 of their combat troops through that front to get combat experience. That should probably concern people too on some level. They have, and as much as the combat experience. experience matters the legit and I always knock logistical sides of anything in the military because whatever but their logistical side to feed that machine runs like a top not that it doesn't have issues because there will always be issues but they can feed that machine through this long of a war what are we at year four something like coming coming up year four and yes Ukraine still in the fight they're still doggedly hanging on because everything in NATO gets shuffled to them

and they're still getting billions nonstop they're eating through their manpower like you wouldn't believe. It's just, we are here now. And if you, this, do I think that we're going to roll out this soft conscription in some effort to throw us into Ukraine? I don't know. I don't know if the next step is for all of NATO to just say, fuck it, we're going in, to false flag some incursion over Poland's airspace or a cross-border thing into

Finland or I don't know. I have no idea. I can't predict that. with the false flag it'll be a false flag i think we all know that and it'll force us to article five ourselves into it and it's we are not if we'd article five in the first month i would have said you know what we could probably do it we could probably maybe do it if only russia's fighting us but they won't be just russia they'll get iran and china on them on their side and it'll be global war on a scale we've never seen and we're worried we're

We're at the point in Canada, not the Canada, I mean, 300,000 people in an Excel spreadsheet is their solution. But that is only to open the door for the rest of the finish mall. Anybody can go with there and grok the finish thing. It's a quick read. Sean read most of it. Well, it's a whole of society. When you wonder where they get that term from, that's the finish. That's where it comes from.

And you know, like interviewing guys, I had a guy on recently from Sweden, a guy on from Hungary. And you just start to see the same. problems. It's surreal to sit and talk to somebody in a different country and just start to see the similar globalist agenda starting to play out in different countries. And you're like, okay, you know, we're talking about different, you know, Armstrong has had his post about being called in to Trump's administration to help with peace talks and different things like that, which has been interesting to fall along with. But then, you know, sitting in Canada, I'm like, if we're getting so close to peace, why are we talking about 300 conscripts? Why are 300,000? Why are we talking?

talking about all these different things if you wanted to build a strong military maybe this is just my making it way too simple you'd be probably inclined to raise the standards make it something that is hard to attain hard to attain because then you'll you'll attract people that fight through that and become very Chuck Jamieish right like become hardened in the process, not less in the, everybody can everybody could be at it. We accept everybody

into a service. It's going to be just fine. You know, I was telling you I was reading Jack White's book. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, the old Roman stuff, yeah, yeah. Um, forgive me. I'm actually going to look up the title because it's going to bug me and it's probably going to, somebody's going to be like, what book are you reading? Give me one second. Now, the Roman stuff is very, not just Jack White stuff, but anything that you read about that Roman era, especially during the decline. And you see how they

managed their militaries where it was a citizenry only military and it was a difficult military but it was also it could be did you know that the average roman soldier should he complete his 20 year enlistment had a better health prognosis than any other citizen because of the medical abilities of a roman doctor such as they were back then we're still talking 2000 years ago but that's where they put their focus the engineering the military the pride of that the the the, the eliteness of their military. And then during the decline, they're like, well, we've conquered these people. We're just going to mercenary them in.

It'll save us some numbers. We'll do this because nobody's joining our military. We can't figure it why. I mean, if you're in perpetual war all the time, that would probably be a reason why. But anyway, so they start doing that. And then they got eaten from the inside out because they merked out their whole army. Well, the book I'm talking about is book series. The first book in it is the Skystone, Jack White, who's a Canadian.

might add in I didn't know that yeah he um or at least grew up in can i'm sure he moved to the states like so many people yeah but he's talking now it's historical fiction folks right so like obviously he he talks right at the start how his characters aren't real but there's a whole bunch in there that is built off of his historical facts what happened he's talking about hadrian's wall and how at a time the romans built it and and manned it and you know essentially protected from the north into the rest of Britain and in the book they get invaded by the picks and I'm sure a bunch of other tribes from the north and like a hundred thousand people come across it right and he's talking about how the Roman legions aren't the Roman legions from

200 years previously right they've now found ways to make mercenaries a huge chunk of it and he talks in the book how they're not the same of the Roman legion um he talks about Talks about how every creed, how every person from across the world can now become a Roman citizen. He even points that out in the book, how it's just like it's not the traditional Roman, how they fought, how they organize themselves. And it kind of reminds me of the movie 300. You know, they get 300 of the best Spartans and then they have the, I forget what tribe it is comes and wants to fight with them. It's the other city states. So you had Athens and several of the other, I think there was like five, six, seven other Greek city states that were made up.

proper back then but when they meet up on that road going to yeah what do you do i'm a potter i'm you know and and it kind of i'm like you know if you want a military force you you want sparta right i mean i don't know what that looks like in today's sense but that's how you want to build out a force so that you're you're formable and people go we don't want to mess with that you don't want the the potters and everything else i mean in the movie it says they fought valiantly yeah they were effective yeah but you still need to hold the line you still need to push them back and in jack white's book it's pointing to that it's pointing to the fact that it's the standards of the military have continued to drop to where they're at a level where the north goes we can invade them now

and we're going to and we're going to push them out of here we've eased our requirements to join our military so much that now we have a lot of new Canadians not even all the way Canadians who have the access to join our military. Well, do you, how do you, effective do you think, and that actually made a bit of a recruitment bump in the last year with, with also the lack of standards and the bonuses you get when you join now. Yeah, if you're searching for permanent residency or citizenship and you join the military. I mean, I was saying before we started, the U.S. does the same thing.

They have, they have a similar method of, you know, they want to keep their numbers high. Well, how do, you know, you could just see the bean counters sitting there. Well, how do we do that? Well, what if we put this carrot there? Well, we get a few extra thousand that come in and go, yeah, we'll serve and then get and get out and, and, and carry on with life. Yes. Yeah. That makes, I mean, it makes sense, honestly, when you're trying, on paper, on paper, but it makes your military softer than goose shit.

And that's what we are right now is that soft. We, they, we are so, we are a generation if we started today. We are a generation out. I'm talking 20 plus years from having a combat worthy army. We don't have the equipment. We don't have the tank infrastructure. We don't have the infantry infrastructure anymore. We don't have a sub force or a Navy force large enough for our shoreline.

You talk about navies and I don't have much to say about navies because I'm not a Navy guy or I'm not a Navy expert. But I, again, math. mathing and murder mathing. The Americans have somewhere around 200 300 war vessels, Navy vessels of some sort. I think they've got 10 or 11 carriers.

China has now passed them in numbers. They've got something like 100 more ships. I think they're close to 400 warships. I think they only have two or, I think three carriers. But don't think about carriers as you're big combat modifier anymore. I know people are out there, well, they got 11, they can project

force. Yes, they can. Think about your drones and your subfleets now. That's where your projection is, is going to come from. Now, tonnage for tonnage, the Americans displaced more than that navy that the Chinese have, but the Chinese are building ships every year, something like close to 20 a year, and the Americans are not building like that. They're barely keeping what they have out there. You know what I mean? It's like sticker, tape, Band-Aid, Go, kind of thing. They are not projecting quite the way they were. And China's one threat. You still got Iran. You still got Russia. You still got whatever other bad actors are out there. I'm just talking China and what they're doing. You're going to think we're going to stop them from taking Taiwan?

No. The reason they don't displace as much China is just a lot of their stuff is amphibious warships. So it's meant to go in, drop off the billions of screaming as Jamie would say screaming Chinaman onto the Taiwan shores and or wherever they're going and well what are you going to do because not only the a bunch of them they're not horribly trained they're not badly equipped like everybody's got this 1980s projection level of where they think China and Russia are at and it's so not true it's we're so clueless we really are we're not even paying attention to the war that's being fought there right now live live for the world to watch we're not taking a lesson learned out of it not a single thing if you

come back to the canadian listener though the 300 000 should be another one of those little markers on the road of like should be yeah so they're they're rolling this out yeah it started in 2015 as you pointed out they threw it out there yeah but since 2015 what have we had we've had Russia, Ukraine, Israel, Palestine, you know, you've had the different little conflicts or maybe big conflicts starting to play out in different spots. You hear, what is the line, too, is forgive me this, where I wish he was sitting there. We just read it on the mashup. All of our leaders are saying the world is becoming an increasingly dangerous place. I'm paraphrasing, they have a line that they continue to put out there and they keep repeating it. Well, what is that for? It's

It's conditioning to set the stage for where they, okay, now we have 300,000, our numbers increasing, and now we're going to offer, you know, your school loans go away if you, you know, you do the different levels, okay, so more and more people are, and what is that doing? It's increasing the number, so when NATO looks at it, Canada has 500,000, now we can say to Russia or whoever, we have 6 million people ready to go. Meanwhile, that is the true paper tiger, because the 300,000 that we're shuffling over, if you're Russia, you're chuckling about, if you're any,

Canadians are chuckling, like, really? It's like Hitler in his bunker moving paper units around at the end. Like, bring Steiner. Steiner will do.

There ain't no Steiner anymore. You know what I'm saying? Like we, so where do you think this goes then? Where do I think it goes is we'll soft roll out this 300,000. I haven't heard a lot of pushback from these civil servants because they're, maybe they don't think it's real. Maybe they don't think it matters.

Well, it's voluntary. It's voluntary. Well, it's sort of going to be. voluntary yeah I guarantee you whether they volunteer or not that 300,000 people are winding up on a fucking spreadsheet so that he can show Trump and show NATO look what we did look what we done did this is great 300,000 of them are you kidding me it's insulting on some level that they're thinking that they're going to give them a week's training of anything

and be competent and be competent in anything yeah my kids are giving me a week long training in Minecraft and I'm still not competent let me tell you it's just it's it's it's it's it's so ridiculous. I mean, I spent years. It takes you two years minimum to make an infantry person viable and survivable on the combat field. Today's combat, any combat field. It's, you know why Canadians during D-Day did so much better than everyone else? It's not because we had an easy beach. We had probably the most difficult beach. They're all difficult. I won't say that. It's not like we had the easiest beach. We didn't. Our, a lot of our guys, had already fought through Sicily and Italy and had experienced absolutely horrific

battles at this point like battles that are defining battles in the war that have forgotten about because it wasn't D-Day in Europe they're not considered as sexy but on our on like the Patricia's alone on our battle honors a lot of those are like through Italy and they're not fighting B level units or Italians they're fighting the Falshamyager, the top tier units that were, some of them pulled back premature, preemptively from the eastern front because, oh, fuck, Canadians are here. So that's for real. And when we hit the beach, when our guys, I say we is the, the royal we, when Canadians hit that beach, they went further than any other force that day, 10, 10, I want to say 10 kilometers, basically wiping out

everything in front of them to the point where every Russian telegram or Russian communique basically said they are stormtroopers, which is basically the highest compliment you can get from the Germans back then. They considered stormtroopers special forces. These Canadians are not

stoppable. We can't do anything to they just kill everything. What do we do? They met up with the British paratrooper unit like a day early that they were supposed to link up with and relieve. It turned everything. We have no Hollywood, so you're never going to know that, like in a movie or something, really. I mean, you have American saving private, and they're all valid. Those are, I'm not taking away from anything the Americans or anybody else did, but we don't have that.

So Canadians will never really understand that when it comes to war fighting, it's Canadians who get it done, who've always gotten it done. But we can't now. And it's, it breaks my fucking heart to see where we're at right now. we are softer than go shit lower than fucking duck nuts it's the worst i'm on a poultry type thing right now i don't know why but we're we're on a we're we're absolutely in an abysmal state and it will take us a generation to unfuck this they need to bring in a people of that well what do we do to fix this chuck we bring in a colonel hope or a type of colonel hope the my ceo from oh six who was a warrior's warrior if montgomery and patten were to make a

baby, which maybe they could now, I don't know, but if they made a baby, it would be Colonel Hope. The man was a tactical, strategic thinker. He was a fighter. He wasn't some sit in the rear with the gear kind of guy. He was in front with everybody else. He was his God. Don't you think the only way we're getting a Colonel Hope to, to use your reference is hard times though. Like I mean, oh, we're approaching that. Hmm. Because you, you look at, you look at like where we're heading. Okay. I, I, I, I once again, don't have the crystal ball. But you know like life in Canada overall is going to become more difficult year over year. I'll use years because you know like the cost of living cost of living is going

up. It's not becoming more affordable. It's becoming less. The government is giving lip service to it but that's about it. That's it. So the cost of living is going up. You you talk about some of the things they're really focusing on is going to make, I don't know, like walking outside and talking to people, it's still, it's still a lovely place to live. Like, there's great human beings here. Yeah. But you start looking at what Canada's doing as a whole and some of the things that are happening. And, you know, like, this is going to become a turbulent time. It already has been, but it's going to be more or less. It's going to be more in the years to come. And then you look at what we're doing with, with the military specifically. Why I wanted to have this conversation

is, okay, so we're going to adopt more of a Finnish-style system. That's what's being pushed towards the Canadian side. It will happen. Is now we're going to have mandatory military. Okay, and to what end? Why are we doing that? And now everyone, well, because in NATO, we need to bump, you know, we need to be at NATO level. And once again, Sean probably five years ago would have been like, why aren't we meeting our requirements?

But if the only reason we meet our requirements is by shuffling numbers, and not actually having a strong force, we are the paper tiger. And then we're going to try and act like we can push our weight around on the world stage. It's almost, well, it is laughable. It is. It doesn't need to be that way.

We could go more on the, I don't know. Poland is a similarly sized nation. I think there are maybe about 45 million people. They don't suffer from the diversity problem that we have here where they take it as an they have an army a standing army of about 300,000 and I think they're increased up to 300,000 right now based on they're bordering, you know, what they're seeing right now in Ukraine. They have good kit.

They have really good training. They're Polish, so they're already tough as fuck. You know, you're not going to push them around anyway. But that's a model. We have the population to support a military that large. I mean, fuck, World War I think there was like 10 million people in Canada. We had a million people in uniform. World War II, we weren't that much bigger of a country and we still had a million plus in uniform.

It's, I'm not saying we need a million plus army. I'm not saying that at all. But 300,000 regular soldiers with some reserves and in like, I'm not talking supplementary reserves, which is nothing but paper. I was telling you before we came on, you know, every guy when you retire, person when you retire from the military, as your outgoing package they were like oh do you want to join the supplementary reserves they think they were like we'll send you a check for like 300 bucks a year to be in the and I'm like well what does that entail I already knew what it entailed and they're like oh you know something happens we can still call on you to I'm like fuck that I'm like I'm out you know because basically

by the time you've done your 20 you're like no thank you very much did my bit got the t-shirt bu boy so that's why I think we have like 4,000 people in our supplementary reserve because by the time people are done with this army. They're like, I'm done. And we've got something like 300,000 plus veterans in the country, roughly, give a take. And only 4,000 are supplementary, have decided, you know what, that sounds like a great idea to me. I'm going to do that. Because it's, it's, it is nothing but paper anyway. You're getting a $300 or whatever the amount is now, I don't know. Um, so this is all a paper shuffle to be the paper tiger. It's horrible. Cesis had, uh, uh, was leaked that they're worried about when people,

people find them how bad it is how bad it is they're worried about civil uprising or you know conflict they predicted it predicted you see in the United States and I hoping you you can relay this better than I can but every state has been required to have I forget the number do you know what I'm talking about don't know what I'm talking about no I don't think I do or at least not so far well they're basically talking about civil unrest as well in all the states and how they're they're gearing up for that um maybe i'm wrong in that maybe i'll i'll hop on the the the the machine and see if i can find out the exact article but i just you know when i'm looking at the future it's like

well i thought when trump came in russia ukraine was going to be shut down you know he said what i forget what is a couple weeks a couple weeks 24 hours something i got to chuckled at that i'm like you know six months a year but it should be you know we should be lessening the conflicts um well russia Ukraine still going on and you know with us trying to get our military numbers up and other places talking about the same thing yeah I'm like well that would incline if if I'm sitting there just looking at that I go well they're gearing up for a conflict um you know I hear different stories coming in the United States and what they're they're doing like do you when you go out I don't know 2030 let's say what do you like you know you see the story you see the

soft rollout. Once again, I point in 2015, which I had no idea about. I see the one this past week where I'm like, well, that's interesting. Paper shuffling or not, you know, if you extend this out over the next few years, what do you see, Chuck? I, so again, it's, they signed the directive in the beginning of this year to actually investigate, really investigate how to implement the finish system. You can grok that. It's out there too. Um, none of this stuff is like, oh,

Chuck, what does Chuck on today? Um, this is out there. This is stuff they've said in the open. Um, they've made visible for everybody. Where I see it going is this little 300,000 thing.

It does a couple things, but it opens the door. The biggest thing is that it opens a door for the finish model to actually take root. Take root. And I, I see that happening real quick. Cause they don't need it.

They don't need it. They don't, want that to fester. They want to have the plan to the longer it festers, the more that gives like Alberta, for example, the chance to go, that's, we're not doing that. We're not playing that. We'll do our own thing. We'll have our own military. Hopefully they get a colonel hope and some other assholes like me and say, build me a military or something to that effect. Like do make it real. Even if there's, look, Alberta is what, four and a half million people? Well, it's probably over five now. Probably over five now. Yeah. And it ain't because of birth rate. Um,

It if say we take that five million population compare it to to Finland, I'd say we could probably stand up a hundred thousand real soldiers like you could make an army in short order real quick with that or with that population and the type of people we have who are going to be a little bit more patriotic they don't know it to be full time you could do it on a reserve basis you could you need a core but you know you know what I'm saying it could actually happen. So what I was referencing with Trump, and I hope this article, I just see the 500 troops. It says the

National Guard is planning to train as many as 500 troops per state to serve as part as a rapid response force focused on civil disturbances, missions, according to the U.S. to U.S. officials. So I just, the reason why it comes to

my mind is like you're seeing CIS talk about when people figure out how bad it is here in Canada, there's going to be civil disturbances. You see the United States going towards that as well. I'm sure other places and other parts of the world are starting to, you know, human beings are starting, what is hell is going on? Well, they don't doubt for a second that we don't have, they won't use our military for

that because it falls apart pretty quick when, when you think that the, the US is a different national guard system. It's a different thing than what we, what we have. What they will do, though, is augment their. In my opinion, they'll augment the police forces in some way. They already have auxiliary type stuff. There's, they will just police status into the ground when things get that bad. When, what, when CIS and the RCMP released those reports saying, if only they knew how bad it was, we got to be.

A lot of us know how bad it is, but you're still living in with that illusion of like, well, the shit sandwich still tastes like a sandwich. Well, I think, I think, I think a small portion of can, Canadians realize. how bad it is right they're tuning into not only this show but other things and actually paying attention it's affecting them every day right what you can't get around the matter who you voted for you can't get around the fact that your mortgage is what it is your car insurance is what it is you're not making enough money to support groceries anymore or bills if you're on a fixed income which most people are on some form of a thing whether through salary or whatever good

luck like you're not vacationing anymore you're surviving at this point something like one and four Canadians are are basically skipping meals at this point. Well, so now they got the clone meat at the stores. And I had... Thank God they killed the ostriches. I had somebody on Twitter. Thanks, Leon, for pointing this out.

Why this matters for clone meat, Brookfield is Canada's largest alternative asset manager, $900 billion. In 2022, it bought 49,000. percent of trans ova genetics the number two cattle cloning company for 250 million so you're just starting to see more and more of how Carney is shaping policy in Canada for brookfield for brookfield all the stuff they accuse Trump of being and he's no angel carney is he is it he is everything he's got has not been what do they call it when like when trump went into the presidency

and he had to put all of his business holdings in some like basically he couldn't touch them or make anything uh they all had to be at arm's length well carney's still part of all of this stuff and we're just eating it we're just sucking on it you know we're just every scandal that breaks and there's one a day basically oh the that chick that just went on vacation and charges taxpayers $173,000 for nine days nine day little vacation like what happened to the $16 dollar orders use of Bevota got fired for under Harper. Like, but it doesn't that's, that's, it, it just doesn't matter. They, they, they've gotten to the point where they don't even defend their ways anymore because it's every day. So they can't

defend it. They just like, well, it'll be out of the news cycle in a minute. This does eventually have a, a tipping point with normies. I'm not a normie, you're not a normie, but the normies out there who are listening, who are like, is it really that bad? If you're still wondering if it's that bad, you're a normie, you're a normie. It's slapping you in the face every day with what's going on. You're just like, well, this is better than the alternative. Well, the alternative is, the alternative is we don't dig our way out of this. The alternative for Albertans is probably what they're all talking about,

which is you get a referendum or however it go. You know, I've had so many different discussions on if that is a viable way to get out of this. I don't know the way to Alberta independence, but a way out of this. It seems like for Alberta is the separate away. Well, I'd seen an article the other day. I think they're called the Alberta Prosperity Act or people, whoever they are. The APP? I think so.

Alberta Prosperity Project? Sure. That's the ones. Yep. They had been, apparently, and if I'm misquoting this, Mayacopa, but they had been in discussion with some of Trump's officials. And essentially those officials, had said when you, if you declare yourself an independent state, country, whatever we want

to be known as, Republic, we will endorse it or whatever they, whatever you call it. Recognize it. Recognize. Yeah. Well, you need, in order to become a official, viable country, I think you need two countries to recognize it. Isn't that, isn't that, I don't know. Somebody will send me. Essentially, it would be the U.S. and whoever they tell to endorse it. Well, you get the U.S. you're going to get 50 countries to endorse it. Aren't you that the U.S. is going to shoulder tap a bunch of their buddies and say, and these people essentially said we will, there'll be zero tariff on new people. You'll, we will have the, the most beautiful working relationship.

You know, it'll be the biggest and bestest thing ever. And I don't actually doubt that. As cynical as I am, I actually think, even if half of that is true, it's better than where we're at. Now, again, I can hear the people because I get it, I do get these messages. and I understand them. I try to be gentle with my responses sometimes, not always. But, well, Chuck, you went to war for the country.

How can you think about tearing this country up? I didn't break my oath to this country. I did everything and then some. Did it all. I've got the T-shirts. I've got it all etched up here every day. This country broke faith with me. It has done everything it can to those of us that went over there

or have served in any capacity. in the last bunch of years it is broken faith with us especially with Alberta why on earth would we stick well confederations it's that's a nostalgic notion that is it's gone we are never going back to the good old days we are never going back there we have to create the new days going forward and that's an independent Alberta I come along for the ride or don't I don't give a fuck I give less than the liquid shit about it we need to survive. And we are not surviving in the way this country is going.

You think if, once again, I have, I have no idea. I don't have the crystal ball. I don't know if Albertans want that. I certainly know what the audience of this show wants. But, you know, you talk about Norman. I have no idea. Although I do run into more and more people who don't watch this show who are big fans of Danielle Smith, who say the only way forward is to get out. Yeah. That's actually become like a pretty interesting trend I'm watching. because they don't let i know they're not listening to this show and it doesn't bother me one i owe you but i'm sitting there and i'm talking to them and that comes up right because they know probably what conversations i'm in they've got an idea made up of what i am and who i you know and um you're like

yeah we need to get out i'm like oh that's interesting i hear it and i hear it from what i wouldn't consider hardcore what are we now we're ultra conservatives i think that's what our label you think it's from it's from fairly regular people now if if uh i don't i don't I'm curious your thoughts. If right now, as I say it, I go, I don't want nothing to do with the Canadian military. One is the conflict, they're associating with the military growing. I'm just like, uh-uh, not interested. But on the flip side, if Alberta did break away and they wanted to have an Alberta National Guard, I don't know what to call it, whatever that is.

Yep. I wonder what the numbers would actually do for that. Especially if all of a sudden, you know, I'm sure the show would love this, the audience would, if Chuck Pradnik became the guy's shoulder-tapped. Now, I have no, no, no, no. I'm not ranked up. I was- No, no, no, I know. I know. But I'm just using it, I'm using you as an idea. Somebody of Chuck's walk and talk, they just is like, no, if we're going to do it, we're going to set these standards in motion. This is how it's going to go. We're not looking for four million Albertans. We're actually looking for the 50,000 who want to push. You would have people from the rest of the country, from the people who are like-minded. There are people in the rest of the country who are like-minded like Albertans.

You would have Americans moving up. You'd have some holdovers from England who are done with England because they're even worse off than we are. You would have people immigrating to Alberta on mass. We would have to be selective. And as far as standing up the National Guard or the New Guard or whatever we want to call it, the old Guard. Yeah. It would fill out in a heartbeat as long as you made it hard and difficult to attain and something with some alone.

And the goal of it isn't to go off to war, conquer the rest of candidates to protect Alberta's interests, right? If that was the, it's like, I wonder how. It would fill out in a heartbeat and you could do it. So when my, my, my, many regiments when they were stood up way back in the day, like mine was stood up before, or during World War one at the beginning of the World War I, um, they're basically privately funded a lot of the like Jamie's regiment a lot of these

militia reserve units right now they were privately funded at the beginning at the beginning it was some there was some federal good money too but it was some old millionaire who was like you know Jeeves I'd like myself a little you know thing going on here and I'd like to be the honorary colonel of this thing here

and these are how these things I'm not against that either on some level you know maybe get your name on a plus black somewhere, but you're not actually in charge of shit. I mean, you're some old guy with money. Well, and he wants to fund something? You have not how many billionaires, millionaires out there going, fuck, I'd fund the military if I could to get them some shit.

I've heard that we had guys buying this kit to go overseas, like our personal kit, because our stuff we had to shit. Knowing it wasn't going to DEI. Knowing it wasn't going to DEI. You kidding me? I hear them out there right now. I'll write the check. You know, I'll buy, put my name on five tanks or on a fucking helicopter or whatever.

you know we don't need subs obviously in Alberta but like well maybe in some of the lakes but can you imagine going out to there's three guys in that sub they're just monitoring for shitty fishers yeah you know like whatever that's something like that sub rolls up on your your search for truck what I'm saying is it would fill out in a heartbeat it would have and we have the Alberta infrastructure to fund it without a heart when and instead of the procurement program that our military and most militaries go through buy it off the shelf go to the states go to certain other countries who have their poop together in a group and go with that's been working for you I'd like

some of those I'd go to China and buy like that you know that drone I go to fucking Russian buy their drones or copy them better yet just copy their shit like do the do the channel model bring it over then analyze and then and then start building it start building just steal it I mean who gives a shit do we just need to have it Like, these things, we need to have it. So much of, uh, we'd have a hundred thousand people here in a heartbeat. If you, if you, forgive me, folks, I'm going to go with Batman. But if you put up the bad signal, the bad signal actually represented something of like a light in the darkness, right?

We're going to, we're going to find a way to make living affordable. We're going to focus on things that aren't DEI green. We're going to use some rational thinking. All these social justice stuff and we just got back to what works the influx would be probably you already said it you'd have to be selective because the people coming here

would probably be in droves already is in droves Yeah right? From the east people are still coming out here Like they're because it is when you If you're from somewhere else and you look at Alberta And I mean Like Leslie was just out here last week And she's like she gets the difference out here

People from out east when they come come here, they see the difference. You can feel the difference in the air almost. It's palpitable. It's, it is different here. And you can't explain that to people unless they've been here. You know, I've been around the country, I've been around the world, and this is the place. And it's not just because of the physical location of it and how beautiful it is. It's, we have a different mindset here overall. And I'm not saying that other Canadians don't. What I'm saying is, this is now the beacon. And I'm sure there's Canadian. out there that don't feel that way about Obrough, that's fine too.

I mean, a lot of them hate us because we have this illusion or delusion. One other, I actually don't know how to formulate this question. It actually just, well, I will respond with something with feathers. Well, it came out this morning. I've been doing interviews for UCP directors and those are going to be coming out folks on the UCP website. So I got to interview all the candidates for, all the different positions on the UCP board of directors.

And one of the things one of the candidates said was, I actually don't think it matters what I think. I want, you know, for the grassroots community to be able to talk to me and then for me to implement roughly whatever. And I thought about that for a while afterwards, and I'm like, I actually just disagree with that thought. I think it really matters what you think. Because if you get put in a position of difficult scenarios,

which are presenting themselves daily, we actually need to know how you think. And if your thought process to go the way of the wind at all points, you will constantly be blown everywhere and you won't actually have the idea of... A direction. There's no direction, yeah. Right.

And I guess not worried about that for the UCP. I'm actually more worried about that for if it was the military or let's say a province, a state, a country. When you have go wherever the wind blows, you can be blown into DEI awfully quick and if you are like firm that doesn't make sense no matter how much people want that we got to explain why that's a poor idea wouldn't that be the better position to take yeah the first thing they did in the military to corrode it and just destroy it was attack its institutions and traditions those traditions like I'm only speaking from

my regimen here but I know other regiments do it because I've seen it or been a part of it when you like you know in a parade or in a gathering or whatever the hell those traditions matter to us they are the thing that is a building block as well to your unit ilan your your unit's abilities you know there's a there's a there's all the capabilities you have because you've trained for them and you hope for them and you you strive for them but the a lawn of a unit is like based on its history and what it's actually going to do when it gets into a fight because it doesn't want to let the guys behind them down we they attacked that and wrapped it racism and misogyny and all the normal bullshit and of course it's led along by this carnigan

who is the iraqi of acci like i mean anybody who knows and i know a few boys who were there we know like this is who they put in charge are you kidding me well of course it's getting destroyed from within there are tear felt apology a couple weeks ago about if racism and misogyny more that bullshit again and you pick an institution of any size it's got 50 60 000 people in it and find that there aren't a few idiots in it, tell me which one it is, because I don't think that exists. Of course the military had it. At least when I was serving and guys like me, somebody was being an idiot, you'd sort

them out. You know, if somebody was crossing lines, you'd sort them out. It worked wonderfully. The pendulum goes a little too far sometimes. Maybe dude got a little too much, but he wasn't an idiot twice, typically. They do away with that, you know, we're all nice to each other and kumbaya and all this and holding hands we are we are in a state that is not recoverable this army needs to be like

purged by purge I mean fire the 145 generals like release them package them out they're all past retirement anyway if we did give them their package go you you thank you for your service now fuck off and then you start putting in people who've been to war call them back from retirement you've been to war I'm not saying me I wasn't a general or a flag officer or some fucking senior officer. I kicked indoors through grenades and went bang at things and I enjoyed it. Pick somebody with the brain power to do this on a strategic level. I know I do this too much, but it's like you want to change the culture of, say, the Calgary Flames or the Hamilton Oilers.

What do you do? You walk in, you put somebody at the helm of it, they go, look around, fire pretty much everybody, bring in their squad, their group of people they trust and try and change their direction. that's a sports organization and it's probably not the best analogy but it's not a bad analogy to me you go if you do that then you set the direction and there's going to be some turbulent years of doing that because it's new when you're setting different standards and everything else but as you aim towards something uh you're going to see different outcomes of it because if you just keep down the same path you're going to get to where we have to reduce standards we've got to find ways to boost the numbers by shuffling numbers on a spreadsheet and none of that is doing your strength. And I guess my final question for you before I let you out of here is I've been wondering I know I'm an optimist

of like maybe the only way that it makes sense to me is peaceful coexistence maybe and as I try and formulate that thought out I go the only way to peaceful coexistence is to be strong

because strong men look at each other and go, I can shake your hand. I may not agree with everything you do, but I don't really want to get in a wrestling match with you because I see what you're built and you already are looking the other way going, I don't want to wrestle that guy. I might win, but it is going to take a lot out of me. And what's the point if it's just this peaceful coexistence? I think that's maybe the most optimistic as I start to continue to formulate this thought is there isn't this kumbaya utopia world because you have so many different countries so many different nationalities languages uh faiths everything peaceful coexistion existence sorry can spit it out

it has come from a place of strength not from a place of we're all just nice to each other because when you're all just nice and yeah it's just nice people take advantage of that over and over and over again and the people in power exploit that over and over and over again am i wrong and where I'm going? No, you're 100% right. And it's, that's exactly. I get a, it goes back to, I don't want a military that's just going to go project our power somewhere.

We're not in the US. I love the US. I love all the Americans I fought beside or no over the years. They're, their way of sometimes projecting power and bringing peace through lots of freedom seeds, pew-poo seeds everywhere. It's not necessarily the way to, I would do business. I understand why they do business. I don't need that.

We don't need that. We need a force, a Spartan-type force that nobody, anybody that comes here will know don't want to play with against them. We don't. That protects the people. Yes. From not only parts of the government overreach. And they're not peacekeepers either.

Like when I joined up in 91 and we were getting sent all over for peacekeeping, that's bullshit. The peacekeeping is bullshit. And I know that there'd be a tendency, well, we got to get this army out there doing something. All you need to do is train to live and shit out of it. And if, say, the U.S. needs us to go in a war that we decide is viable and worth fighting and winnable, quickly winnable, then we go fight that. We send whatever, an augmented size. Don't you think, once again, I don't know if this is just me hypothesizing. So Chuck can put bullet holes in it all he wants.

if you built let's say Alberta went independent okay and then you built a National Guard or whatever the heck it is don't you think there's enough problems in Alberta that they could be sorting out the drugs problem the gang problem you don't want to use your military for anything

other than military stuff other than military stuff other than no it's a huge that's a huge no no that that you start why is it a huge no no the second now even if there's shitbag drug dealers and all the gang guys and they are you the second you start using your proper military for paramilitary things you there's a lot of bounds that can't be recrossed again like you're now acting against your citizenry even if they're the shittiest citizens you're

acting against your citizenry it's why the americans get away with the national guard because there's a lot of things they can do i don't agree with that system myself we need a re-ramped not only we would need to revamped military and a new military in Alberta, we'd have to reflesh out our police force. And I think a huge part of that police force needs to be equipped, trained, and have the rules of engagement to go after the shitty people. Oh, so what you're talking about is an extension of my thought, but not the military side of it. You look at the, well, right now it's the RCMP, you'd have the Alberta police force. Yes.

I don't know if that's what they're calling it or I know there's been talking about it regardless something like that something like that and you would give them you would undo some of the shackles on them and say no we're going to allow you to go arrest gang bangers drug dealers within the confines of law but actually

with the confines of law but you but there's so much going on right now where that they're not going after them I know I say this like no as in the definitive all encompassing no I know that I've worked in a jail for 10 years I know that some of them, but they're back out the door in five minutes, you know, and that's not the cop's fault. That's our judicial system's fault, which also needs a revamp.

Yeah, but if you look at the federal government, they're looking at people such as myself, and I'm not putting any special pat on the back for me. Just influencers online as being dangerous to society. So you look at that, where is that heading in the future? You know, when you play that game out, eventually they put through all these bills that make it difficult for these conversations to happen. may be impossible because of the fines or jail time that'll be associated with it. So when you come back to Alberta and this idea of, okay, so we're separate now in your province or a country or whatever we're going to call it, and you're looking at approaching the Alberta police force and attracting the right guys and putting a direction in, it's no longer

about shutting down civil discourse. It's about shutting down things that are actively hurting your members of your society, which is drugs, crime. It starts with drugs. Drugs is the root of it all, in my opinion. I didn't know anybody in jail, an inmate in jail, who wasn't either a drug pusher or a drug user or both. Until the Trudeau government when they started arresting civil dissidents. Yeah.

So that has to be the focus. Why it isn't, I mean, we allocate X number of little things towards going after these guys now. It should be, there should be an entire SWAT style force. That's all they do is knock these people off. off, go to their, you know where they are. Yeah. I had a guy, and I forget where it was. I can't remember if it was Rocky Mountain area,

but it was somewhere in relatively central Alberta. They had a drug house there. And he was telling me how they got him out of there. They had a group of locals. They kind of had a crime watch, if you would. And they just went and sat outside the front door, if you would. right they just parked a car there i i don't know if it's 24-7 but it was quite regularly cops showed up on him multiple times saying what do you guys doing we're just just making sure

nothing the legal is going on right and eventually they just left and he told me he's like they went to somebody else's community and he goes and that sucks but they're no longer part of our community and that was making life uncomfortable for people who want to hide in the shadows and when you talk about policing giving them the shackles off it's like well they want to make it so that drugs in Alberta is not the place to be. You can go do it in B.C. You go do it in any other province you want, but not here. And we're going to shut it down.

Like, to me, that makes sense. You put the spotlight on these organized criminals, and you're like, no more. We're not doing this game anymore. You make the sentences so heavy if you're an organized. I'm not talking for the everyday guy who got a speeding ticket or, you know, something, fish cop come after you. Sure.

You know, whatever. I'm talking, if you're an organized crime and you've got a rap sheet already, that's ridiculously long. And I, every guy I knew in jail, they, there wasn't their first rodeo, you know, like, oh, I'm in here for two months, which should have been a fucking five year sentence. They'll plea out. They'll do a little this. They'll do a little. I won't do it again. Mayacopa, maya coppa.

What did you think of the federal, uh, the Supreme court's decision five to four on mandatory minimum sentence for child pornography? They did away. They did away. They did away with it. They did away with it. Well, that should tell you where our society at large is going. Yeah, it should tell you. And the funny thing is there was a few people, some bigger influences on the Twitter,

who were defending it. And I thought this is a very weird hill for you to die on a pedophile's hill. Like, this is a very, I can tell you from experience of dealing with those people specifically in jail. I worked MaxPod for the better part of four and a half, five years, four years anyway. And one of the units on MaxPod was specific to protective custody. And generally that was 99% diaper snipers and kiddie didlers. Like the worst of the worst who couldn't go to a regular unit.

There's some gang dropout guys there too who couldn't go to a regular unit because their gang would kill them. Gang would kill them. And the pedophiles, they couldn't go because the inmates would kill them. Absolutely. They to a person. reoffend to a fucking person they reoffend anybody in law enforcement you all know you you know in fact that's why they released the i don't even know if they're allowed to release but i see it in the sun now and then or the paper or online on the twitter like oh be aware this guy and i'm like

fuck i know that guy right he's i've had him in jail dozens of times and those same guys those inmates will say as they're going out the door like some of them even have maybe a flash of like remorse or like something human in them because they're not human and they'll be like boss I'm going to go reoffending I'm going to go back to that playground they'll say something that and you just want to you know you just want to go biblical we can't and they're back in a week later or the next day or that night I kid you not I'm not making that up I kid you not that would happen time and time again so when it comes to this pedoph you murder a dude yeah do some time I don't know what the appropriate time for appropriate murder is you know I didn't have a problem

with the murderers I dealt with in jail like mostly they were gangbangers I weren't some guy that went after their neighbor just because they're always typically gangbangers it's the lifestyle they live so somebody gets popped they get popped I didn't really have a problem with those guys dealing with them because there was an understanding the didlers are the most entitled protected um have the most advocacy groups kind of thing like oh they can be reformed No, you, there's no change. The broken thing in here isn't changing. A dude who murders or robs or does something else.

They're probably just shitty humans anyway with a drug addiction or running a gang kind of thing. And I don't, not saying you can change them either, but you can kind of curb their behavior with really long fucking sentences. And you need to do the same to the didlers, but they're back out after minutes, moments, maybe a month, depending on the severity. And I'll tell you what, I've seen. I've read the stuff they don't release in the news that these things have done. And they are evil amongst us. And they're being protected now by the Supreme Court, like, mandatory minimums for that. Like, are you kidding me?

You look at Florida's example. I think they just pass a thing where you can now capital punishment, the didlers, if a person boy girl was under 12. And if I'm sitting there looking at it, This is what I mean of setting a direction of where you want to go. And then the fruit of your tree will be seen, right? As you open the door is there's no mandatory minimum sentence. What is that going to do?

Is it going to attract more of those or less of those? I would say more. I mean, there's no punishment. There's no punishment. And on the flip side, if you look at what Florida is doing, they got problems. Oh, I'm sure they do. but as they do things like that is that going to attract more or less of it

I'm not saying it'll never happen there I'm sure it will but it's going to attract less and even on the attraction one way or the other is one thing like as far as what it'll bring or send away you will have definitively stopped them from doing it again

okay we don't want to do capital punishment because we're Canada we kumbaya and all this bullshit fine but you give this guy who's now diddled how many kids 20 year minimum he's not getting out for minimum 20 and if you're smart in jail you can um dangerous offender the guy there's ways to do that it's rare but if people took that brought that along you if you do an offender you know and they got to be a bad dude to get deode there's no their sentence is

essentially indefinite i mean somebody will pick apart the legal definition of all that but essentially they ain't getting out real quick it takes a bit to get off dangerous vendor and say that all that anyway my point to all that is if we actually kept them up the problem with like you look around our country right now these guys are and you saw police chiefs and i think it was auto or Toronto yesterday talking about it at a news conference like they're getting released and doing it again they're people act like well they robbed a home they don't rob a home they took a family hostage and took their shit and beat the hell out of these people there's video after video of this now because everybody's

a camera somewhere in their home they they they stole a car no they didn't just steal a car they took that family's mode of transportation to go to work they violated that families they assaulted a person no they assaulted one of us they did that they they they terminology they use in the news is very clean cleanse cleansing or sterile we did the same thing overseas when we're drop and slotting derping smashing wiping out who's the terminology was like and then we had this number of dead savages you know our reports are very blunt what what they got cleaned as they went up would it be uh consider basically white washing the the news report well because when you hear i robbed a home was killed by a uh killed by a this killed by a that but you'll only ever

hear well the illegal gun did this no the illegal gun didn't do it the shithead pulling the trigger of the illegal gun who's been out and has already been in jail for a murder. The fact that he was in jail for a murder, got out and did it again should tell you something about our legal system right there. And he's already out on a PTA or, you know, a light bail or something.

Because bail cannot be too difficult for these guys to achieve. I heard that over and over again from judges in there. Well, we don't want to make it too restrictive or too, you know, unfair to them. Well, how are the fucking victims? Because every one of these fucking crimes has a victim that no one gives a shit about. I always come back.

So then I come back to Alberta Independence and I go, you know, like when you're trying to make a case for it, the money, okay, fair enough. We got money in Alberta. We'll be fine. But there's so many other things that you could actually reform, I think is probably the best. Reform needs to happen with our justice system. I worked at firsthand at my level. My brother does what he does. He's seen it at his level.

I've got other family who do former brothers in the army who went on to law enforcement. they talk about it all the time. It's not that the front line people aren't doing what they're supposed to do. I know it may have came off of that way a moment ago when we're talking about going after drug dealers. I know that with the resources they have, they're doing what they can do. But I would reallocate that. I would shuffle the shit out of that.

And I'd make it so they had the tools to go after these people and they just, and not just go after them, but keep those people from getting out to do it in a month. Yeah, put the teeth back in the job. judicial system then what's the point all the and you can believe me I know some guys out there on the front line who are like why am I bothering to arrest this guy again why I'm it's just paperwork for me he's going to get out tonight he's going to do it again tomorrow so then it becomes a general apathy and the these I mean I'm not I'm no fan of law

enforcement overall in the current state that it's in I'm not knocking all of them But, I mean, this last few years hasn't been kind to your image. And I know more about that than most people with the military. Like we were the shamed and shunned for, you know, forever in the army. Until we started dying, it was like, you know, vogue again to, you know, nice for them, you know, kind of thing. I'm being a little harsh with it, but that's kind of not being harsh. But give them the tools to get them. Give them the tools to keep them where they should.

be and I don't know what long-term reform or sorry rehabilitation is the word I'm looking for because there really isn't rehabilitated and I know that some people have talked about enforced drug treatment I know in some of the Scandinavian countries they do that I don't know enough to speak about it like with any depth I might grok it after but I know some of those countries do enforce a drug treatment or they were even a few years ago look that's where the of it lays it's it's a drug world that's where the crime money is I mean fuck we were fighting the Taliban they're shipping the one battle in Hyderabad they fought on

us for like half a day like real hard they're like these guys are good they're armed they're fucking they're not backing up they're not normally could smack them up a bit and chase him down and that's kind of where the good killing happens of these guys just stood in they wouldn't buck we're getting pounded up pretty good and we did eventually win of course But we've found what was close to $25 million and recently harvested black tar heroin. So they knew if they lose that heroin, they're dying. And if they don't get it out of there, they're dying.

And they face us, they're dying anyway. We dropped a better part of 50 of them that day. And over the drugs. The drugs are always the problem. I mean, people are going to be shitty and they're going to do some stupid crimes without drugs being related. Not my experience in jail. Unless you're a didler, those guys, they just, they got something broken in them. just lock them away lock them away or do Florida Chuck thanks for coming in we went we went

the full gambit today I was like we fixed it all yeah fixed it fucking all Chuck thanks for being in studio again thanks for having the next time we'll be in the new studio and I'm excited for that keep throwing silver at me I'll be here yeah thanks brother