Shaun Newman Podcast - #966 - Brad Williams

Episode Date: December 10, 2025

Brad Williams is the President of the Saskatchewan Prosperity Project, an educational initiative aimed at promoting provincial sovereignty, self-determination, and prosperity through policy discussions and community engagement. With a robust career spanning 35 years as a corrections officer in provincial corrections, Williams brings a hands-on experience in rehabilitation, public safety, and community reintegration to his leadership role, informing his commitment to policies that foster individual freedoms and economic independence for all Saskatchewanians.Tickets to Cornerstone Forum 26’: https://www.showpass.com/cornerstone26/Tickets to the Mashspiel:https://www.showpass.com/mashspiel/Silver Gold Bull Links:Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/Email: [e-mail] Grahame: [phone]Bow Valley Credit UnionBitcoin: www.bowvalleycu.com/en/personal/investing-wealth/bitcoin-gatewayEmail: [e-mail] Prophet River Links:Website: store.prophetriver.com/Email: [e-mail] the code “SNP” on all ordersGet your voice heard: Text Shaun 587-217-8500

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Today's guest is the president in the Saskatchewan Prosperity Project. I'm talking about Brad Williams. So buckle up. Here we go. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. Today I'm joined by Brad Williams.

Sir, thanks for hopping on. Well, thanks for having me, Sean. Glad to be here. You know, I'm probably like most people. They're going, Brad Williams. Well, who the heck is Brad Williams? Brad. I mean, very day.

to meet you but uh yeah i see this is catch a flag of the back and uh obviously everybody knows a bit about my history so that speaks highly to somewhere is happy he's given the fist pump but brad tell us tell us a bit about yourself well i'm just a regular guy uh not a politician never will be um just a person who worked in corrections for 35 years and knowing what we're you know what we're up what we're up against here with what's happening in our country and in our province, we need to make changes. And the only way to make changes is somebody's got to get out there and start a movement to make those changes. And that's why I'm here. You're starting the discussion. I admire your boldness. Now, before we get into that discussion, you just said 35 years in corrections,

correct? Correct. And was that something you set, like, how did you get into corrections? Were you something before that or you like stumbled into corrections? It was totally not by design. I would never aspire to be anything in policing or in corrections. Economic times were bad back in the early 90s. And I had a daughter that was born and I had a business that was on the road a lot. And I was coming home and holding her for an hour every night in my arms. And then having a quick sleep and then jumping back in my vehicle and going back on the road.

And I thought, you know, this is not how I want to. to raise my daughter. So you look around PA, there was, you know, the pulp mill, the federal penitentiary, the provincial jail was the only three decent paying jobs. And I happened to get hired at one. And that's kind of how I ended up there was for family reasons, really. So were you at the penitentiary? At the provincial jail. At the provincial jail. Okay. So I assume that was, well, maybe I'm wrong in assuming this. I assume it was a little, maybe not, um, what's the word I'm looking for here? I feel like the penitentiary, maybe it's a little. little more, uh, excitement is not the word I'm looking for, Brad, but that's the only one that

comes to mind. Uh, I, I assume the jail may be a little bit more like, uh, I don't know, day use versus long term. Am I maybe right in that presumption? Well, yes, no, Sean. Uh, everybody who goes to federal penitentiary has to go through our provincial jail because of the remand system. So when they're waiting to stand trial, we keep them. Um, you know, so our inmates are there, mostly the ones that are sentenced would be, you know, shorter term. They're two years less a day. The environment is very different because when you're in the penitentiary system, you do have people that are due in 20 years.

So that becomes their world. And that's its own subculture and its own environment. And that is different than the provincial system. But as far as the inmates that we get, we get everybody. So anybody that ends up in the pen has to come through our system at some point. So you're saying there was no dull days? There was no dull days, no. But I mean, it was, you know, your shift is as good as you are as a staff and your partners are

and your relationship that you have those inmates. So you have a good rapport. Things tend to be fairly quiet because they respect you. They don't have to like you. They just have to respect that you're doing your job. And if you're doing that, it's just to be actually fairly pleasant. I don't mean to pull, I assume you're retired now, correct? Yes, I retired to do this.

So my, I'm just curious, you know, like so many of us, every day, regular folk that don't work in a jail or penitentiary, et cetera. And I've had Chuck Prodnick on who worked in the Alberta side for nine years. And so I've asked him lots about it. But of a man who's been there 35 years. So from the 90s into the current day, uh, I, I just wonder, you know, like as different governments come in and set different laws in place, were you guys all just sitting around playing cards one night? I saw you weren't playing cards, but regardless, this is the way my brain works. going, what are they doing?

Like, this is going to get brutal? Or did it, did you notice much of that? Things only evolved in a sense of the way that Regina would look at different policies. And then, of course, programs, you know, they come out with a new program of how they're going to, you know, save more the inmates and get them to, you know, rehabilitate and change their lifestyles. Some of those programs definitely have merit in the sense that you give them the tools that they, if they choose down the road to. decide to stop their cycle of, you know, addiction and criminal activity, they have the tools somewhere to start. As far as, you know, saving anybody, you're really not, because it's up to them to save themselves. But sometimes giving them tools does make that difference down the road.

So it's a debatable issue. You know, my role was primarily to make sure that the inmates and staff are safe when you're there, that they're, you know, they stay behind bars because that's what the judge mandates you to do. And we all have to live there. So you try to, you know, make an environment where you can get along and everybody goes home safe at the end of the day and that's my job well forgive me i i don't mean to say uh that i just look at you and i go you're kind of a subject matter expert and and you know and like when when we talk in the oil field it's like you know they never come to the the blue collar guys who are on boots on the ground and go you know what would make your job better right what would actually help so when you

say like it's on the inmate they have to they have to put in the work that makes sense to me and we got to give them some tools and i go okay brad what were some tools that actually you and i don't know if you can say i saw a benefit from it but like was there some tools that actually helped inmates like progress faster than others uh it's really just their desire it's like that expression you can't leave a horse to water but you can't make them drink i mean you know the laws that we have and the sentencing that they get there's no rhyme or reason inmates are often confused you know because they're doing this much time for the same crime as the guy next door and the other guy next door did you know kind of worse things while he was doing that crime and

he's got less time and it makes no sense there's no rhyme or reason to a lot of it like it's it's confusing it was confusing for me as a staff so i can't imagine how an in may felt so you ask about you know the programs that they bring in those programs have that little bit of merit that if they're you're just basically giving them the tools the day they decide that they want to change lifestyle they kind of have a place to start as far as making a huge difference i can't say that ever saw it you know i've got i've got one or two cases i can think in the last 35 years where i think those programs actually made a difference a huge difference for an inmate but only because those inmates chose to make a difference they wanted to change your lifestyle they wanted to stop the cycle they

were in you know so that's probably no other way to put it other than not i guess to be straight another dumb question though. If Scott Moe came to Brad tomorrow, so Brad, what would you change to get it from one to two cases over 35 years to, I don't know, 35? I know that isn't a crazy amount, but at the same time, I'm like, what if we could just increase it to one a year? Can we, can we find a way to do that? Would you go, oh, you should probably do this and this? Or you're just like, I've scratched my head on this for 35 years? Yeah, that's a tough one, Sean. I mean, there's no doubt that if you have no programs at all, if they don't understand some of the cycles as to how they're coming to jail,

when the time comes that they want to, they actually hit their bottom and they want to make a change, if they don't have any idea or any tools at all, I think they would be farther behind. As far as, like, coming out with something that would change a lot more people, I honestly can't give you an answer on that. One final one on, well, I don't know, not hope. uh forgive me my this is way my brain works welcome to uh the podcast today because i'm i surprised me

at 35 years i'm like oh this is interesting already uh do you watch anything going on bukelly in el salvador and how they just rounded up everybody with like basically a face tattoo you're in jail done and like it looks like it's not even meat potatoes type jail system it looks pretty like i don't I don't know the word to put it. But, like, they just rounded up, arrested all the gang members. They go in and, like, you know, it was the Chicago mayor who said, incarceration doesn't stop violence. And Buckelly responded with incarceration absolutely stops violence.

And here's the statistics to show it. Have you watched anything in El Salvador? Just curious. I haven't, I'm not that particular situation. I wasn't aware of that. So now after we'll look into that after we get off the podcast. But, you know, there is a little bit of, I would say there's a merit to. I mean, obviously, if somebody's a habitual criminal and they're doing the same offenses over and over,

you know, especially when you start getting into sexual assaults or any kind of pedophilia, I mean, those inmates definitely need to be doing a lot longer time. Because, I mean, if you let them out early and they reoffend, then you've got more victims and not just not just that victim, but you have all the people that's in their circle, they're, you know, their close family, their friends. affects everybody around and it usually affects her relationships for the rest of their life in the negative way. So, you know, I think you're putting a price on victims

and where they're worried about the price of keeping an inmate in jail longer. And I think that is probably the biggest issue. Yeah, well, you're going to have a fun little rabbit hole to go down because El Salvador went from essentially one of the most,

not one of the, one of the dangerous, most dangerous countries in the Western hemisphere to now safer than Canada. And all they, I, it's not all they did, but like, one of the big things they did is they rounded up all the criminal element, like, not overnight, but pretty darn close. And there's videos of their jail system and everything. And you're like, holy man, right? Like this, you know, and then Buckelly, just for one final point on this, from my standpoint, out of all the politicians I've ever listened to, I'm like, wow, this is something. This guy, uh, you know, he is a show. And it sounds like they have El Salvador on the right track. Now, who knows? I'm sitting here in Alberta, a stone throw from Saskatchewan. And today we're not here to talk all about the criminal underworld and prison systems. But cool just to hear some feedback from a guy who's been in that system for there as long as you had. That's an entire career. And anytime I get to pick somebody's brain, I love to do that. Now, you've retired from it to start the Saskatchewan Prosperity Project. Walk me through this. yeah it was i was in a nice cushy role my last two years oh sorry about that my last two years and uh you know i had no reason at all to want to leave uh i was looking at doing another two three

years you know past my my 35 year retirement date and this opportunity came up and i've been waiting for you know a good year for somebody to start something and it you know dawned on me that if I don't step up, who's going to? You know, if not me, then who? So I decided to end my career earlier than I wanted to and do this full time because somebody has to get this going and get it started because I think we're writing out of time.

When it comes to Saskatchewan, once again, folks, born in Saskatchewan, sit on the border, you know, the border city here. So like, you know, stare at Saskatchewan an awful lot. I have a ton of, a ton of respect for the people of Saskatchewan. Heck, I'm, you know, uh, twos would, I can just hear him in my, my ear right now almost, you know, just, because he's a, a transplant as well into Alberta. And there's a ton of Albertans who are, come from Saskatchewan, moved across and, and, um, you know, so there's a lot of similarities

between the two, um, provinces. Yet Alberta has had the Alberta prosperity project. Man, for like, is It's got to be closing in on eight years, maybe a little less than that. It's been a while. Why do you think it's taking so long in Saskatchewan for somebody to fire something up like that? Because I don't think it's such a strange idea for Saskatchewan to want more independence from government overreach. I mean, you listen to Scott Moe and some of the things they've come out with over the last, what has it been, two years, maybe a little longer. And they're doing similar things to Premier Smith. You know, the Saskatchewan people are a little bit different than the Alberta people.

I think we have probably with the whole history of the NDP and the Tommy Douglas years, there is a little bit more of that leaning to that socialist kind of thinking. Especially in the cities, I think, you know, we have more people that are kind of on that side of the political fence. So when you want to do something like independence, a lot of people are scared. You know, they have concerns, you know, because it's change. They're scared of change. They have concerns, questions, you know, just things that, you know, make them hesitant or totally against because they think that they're doing, you know, something where we're, you know, not going to be a Canadian anymore. You know, there's a lot of pride in being Canadian.

And they haven't, I think what it really boils down to is that not very many people have ever actually stopped and asked themselves, like, what would that look like? And what's the benefit of staying within Confederation? What's the benefit of us being an independent nation? So even if you have somebody like Scott Moe, who has, you know, has come out with some good policies that have helped the province, you have the Canadian government that's been, you know, taking more and more of our taxes. Life here has become fairly, you know, miserable and most people now are affected. I think that's why people here are starting to wake up and realize they want some kind of a change, something better, you know, something that's prosperous for the future for our children. You know, you look back to, you know, when I was growing up, it was just expected you're going to get a job. If you get a good job, you can buy a house and you can start a family.

Those dreams don't exist for the youth today. How do they buy a house? You know, they can't afford it. It's just not a good situation. I think that is where, you know, where a lot of people now are starting to change their opinion and their views. And I think that's why the Indian Pence movement will gain a lot of steam here fairly quickly. And especially if Alberta manages to go soon, I think you'll see a lot of people in Saskatchen open their eyes and go, well, we've got to get on. not. Well, I think you raise a good point. How many people, you know, like Saskatchewan folk are hard

working, right? Like they, they, you know, uh, whatever their leanings are, um, they, they get to work. They, they got no problem with, with getting their, you know, their hands a little dirty and going to work. And when you are constantly running as hard as you can to, uh, you know, make sure the bills are paid and, and your business is running or whatever, you know, it's going on in life, sometimes you just don't stop to go, could we have something better? You know, like, and that's why the, you know, this SPP, I guess, right, Saskatchewan Prosperity Project, starting a conversation will get people talking. And people talking, you just never know what comes out of that, you know, so I guess how many town halls have you done? Like, have you, I mean,

when did you start this and then you know maybe you can walk us through some of the town halls and what you've been hearing when did i start this you know i kind of came on board just at the end of october um so not very long ago you know maybe five weeks ago and we've done nine nine or ten town halls uh some were small uh i basically put the word out there anybody that wants one wants one to contact me and we'll set it up and i'll be there and that's kind of how you know we'd end up doing the first ones going into the new year, we're going to be doing a lot more. We are also affiliated with a group called Prairie Rising in the province. So some people are a little confused with that.

It's like, well, why do you have two groups? You know, it's confusing. Well, the reason we have the two groups is very simple. They're kind of working on the legal pathway and some of the hurdles that we're going to have to go through where SPP is, you know, we're just strictly an educational piece. We're nonpartisan because this isn't a, you know, a left or right issue. This affects everybody and will benefit everybody. in Saskatchewan, every person. So, you know, our role is to do that education piece and to build

the chapters, get the groups going and get them, give them the tools to keep those groups growing and to educate the people around them. Because all we want is people have the option, you know, to make that an informed choice. Is this the right thing for me or is this the wrong thing for me and my family? You know, so for myself, when I started, you know, looking at this, I look, you know, I'm one of those piece of paper kind of guys. So I put down on paper, you know, what's the benefits? of staying in Saskatchewan, what's the benefits of staying in Canada? And my, what's the benefits that, you know, of Saskatchewan, sorry, Saskatchewan becoming an independent nation.

As I ran down that list, my list, that was really long. And I got to the other side, what's the benefit of staying in Canada? We can't do if we were our own country. And there was zero on that side. And I tried really hard to try to put something down on that side. And there was nothing, nothing. What did you have? Curious, on your list for if Saskatchewan becomes an independent country. What were the things that stood out to you of like, you know, if you got your top three, your top five, whatever you want to put it at?

What are some things that you started like, man, that's something. That's interesting. Well, I think the biggest one is the freedom and the hope and the prosperity that we could have, you know, the future. Because I mean, I'm doing this for my grandkids and for my children. doing this for myself. I want them to have that free Canada feeling that I had, you know, to be proud of where you live. Because, I mean, it's hard to be proud of being Canadian now with everything that's gone on with Canada in the world. You know, everybody sees us as becoming, quickly becoming a totalitarian state, you know, leaning very quickly towards communism. And that we have leaders that are going and dressing up in, you know, Indian gowns and dancing around in another country,

embarrassing us i mean that's just one example of the many reasons not to be proud not to mention how we're our taxes are going up and our debt is so huge like this is not sustainable as a country our economy is going to collapse and i the way i see we have alberton saskatchewan have two beautiful light boats life boats so we can take throw it on the water and jump into and let go the rope because canada is sinking and if we stay it's not going to be pretty in your nine town halls i assume you've probably had the question well we'll just get the conservatives in and they'll write the ship uh we don't need to we don't need to go to the extreme button of let's just leave let's let's just get the right government elected and they'll change

things your thought not going to happen uh we were looking at just the senators there's just over 100 senators in the Senate. And of those senators, 100 were appointed, approximately were appointed by Trudeau and his government. So even if another government gets in, you have the full house of, like the whole Senate is basically a liberal government. So how are you going to pass anything through that? You can do whatever you want on the other side of things. And, you know, I asked myself that question, if Pierre Pallivier had one, where would that leave us? And quite frankly, we still have to leave because.

there's no benefit for us to stay in Canada. It's an abusive relationship. All it's doing is costing us an awful lot of our wealth. And the dictates that they're doing as far as policies, they're telling us how we think they want to censor us. They want to take away our guns. Like, it's all about control. And we can simply self-governing.

I think that's the hugest part of that is that we can make our own decisions. And that's been very beneficial for the, you know, the First Nations people here too, because they've been screwed by the government longer we have. You know, I think there's an opportunity here for them to really write, you know, history as to how they want the future to be for their people. What would that look like? I mean, that's wide open for them right now if they decide to get on board and make a difference. They can get out from underneath Ottawa and the Crown. The choice is theirs, and I really hope

they join us. Well, that would be an interesting conversation. Are you planning it? You think you'll get invited out to any of the reserves to do a town hall? I actually want to, to approach some of the chiefs that I want. My first question is, what would they like that to look like? If we were an independent nation, what would they want the future to look like for their people? How would they envision that? What would we need to do?

What would they need to make that happen? Because I mean, I think that's a conversation that they probably never really had with Ottawa. And the people that live here, we've lived peacefully alongside them for 120 years. They're our neighbors, they're our friends. You know, where Ottawa doesn't care about them, we would, and we do.

So there's an opportunity there. You know, if I go back to your thought on inmates, you know, you're talking about Saskatchewan, Ottawa being an abusive relationship, but if I go back to your, you're talking about inmates in really over 35 years, you know, the success cases come from people who want to change. In order for Saskatchewan or Alberta, for that matter, to actually have a successful referendum them or a successful movement to be like we just don't want this anymore people basically Saskatchewan folks are going to have to want to change correct absolutely and nothing can happen

unless people step up and and take action you know you can't the days are waiting for someone else to come save us like you know a new party or whatever in ottawa those days are long behind us and those people will never save us you know there's no there's no difference really from one party to the next. In the end of the day, they're almost like a uni party at this point. You know, the agendas that they're running that are all globalist agendas, we've got to get out from underneath that. And really, the only way out, as I see it, is for us to become an independent nation, the sooner the better. Because, you know, they're clamping down more and more and taking away a lot of freedoms.

You know, to the point where you and I want to be able to have this podcast, if they get all those bills through, that, you know, the censorship bills, because we'll be considered fringing and some kind of hate speech against the government. Well, yeah, because we're having those conversations, right? Yeah, when you, so you mentioned you had, you've had nine town halls, correct? In your nine town halls, how has turnout been? Has, have there been people there, or have they been pretty small, or have they been well-received? Yeah, we've had, like, in Prince Abbey, we had 150 people.

We had 160 in Saskatoon last night. We had 260 in Swift Current, you know, I think it was about Wednesday last week. And then when, in Tompkins, very small community and not far from some of the other meetings we had, and we still had 20 people there. But, you know, for that size of area, that's actually pretty decent as a start.

Because, you know, really what it boils down to, Sean, when you go and you do these town halls, you know, if you have a thousand people show up, that would be great. But, you know, a lot of people have watched some other movements in different regards, like your different separation parties, we are no not a party I want to really stress that we're just an educational piece but you know

they've had other things come along that they were hoping would give them that hope and that chance to make some change and then they just all kind of petered out we're not going anywhere we're not petering out this has to be done we don't have an option of failure so our goal is to educate people get us to that point of having that vote and let the people of the province decide because ultimately that's the ones this is for the people to be able to decide their fate do we want to stay inside you know and never increasing tyranny that's coming from ottawa we're going to be more and more in debt to the planet that's going to collapse our economy or do we want to jump out in that lifeboat and and you know give that freedom and that prosperity

of hope for the children in our future we have that option so you know it's either stick stick to the guns and stand up and get involved or just sit down and and let the let the ship come over you and you can go down with it. And I'd rather just do something and make something happen and become independent because there's no benefit to staying in Canada. There just isn't. If, I was going to say on any of your town halls, is it just Brad Williams speaking? Is there other people that people can expect to be there as well?

That's been changing from town hall to town hall. These are thrown together pretty quick at the last minute. I wanted to get out right away, hit the ground running. So a lot of them, I've been adjusting my presentation on the fly. I've basically taken a lot of Mitches from AP&P and then kind of been slowly tweaking it. Still trying to get all our Saskatchewan figures. Like, for example, I just got, we thought, you know, the amount of money we sent to Ottawa. When you talk about the money part, you know, we're sending money to Ottawa.

And then, of course, they're giving us some money back in the form of transfers. And there's always a difference. and when you have Alberta, Saskatch and BC that are paying for the rest of the country, they're carrying the whole country off of our backs. I want to know what our portion was, and initially we thought it was about $4 to $8 billion. Well, now we're finding we dig deeper. It's both the more closer to $13 billion that we're giving to Ottawa that we're not getting back. So, I mean, you know, you can still send that money to Ottawa.

You're going to send it to Regina. They'll be able to cover off your health care, your education, all those pieces. out of the same money they would have normally sent anyways and gone back, but we'll have so much more, we can do so much more with. You know, not including giving more money to health care, more money to education, we can cut personal taxes. You know, there's so much, we can give higher money to the old age security for the seniors. Because, I mean, those people don't get a lot.

There's a lot of people that we can look after, and we would still be money to the good. You mentioned talking with Mitch and Mitch Sylvester from the APP, Are you working closely with the APP? I don't want to put words in your mouth. Oh, yeah. You know, that's one of the reasons I want to get involved right off to start with SPP, because we do have that affiliation.

You know, we're like a sister organization every way. We're kind of walking alongside them. They're kind of the big brother because they've been doing this a lot longer, as you said. We have a lot to learn from them. And they're helping us kind of speed track a lot of things because we can take all of their information and change it to, you know, to Saskatchewan terms. But, you know, they've done a lot of the hard work.

They've made, you know, some of the growing pain mistakes. And we can, you know, learn from their mistakes and not repeat them. Because, you know, you don't know how fast you're going to grow. And there's a lot of management of, you know, members and setting up those town halls and keeping everything flowing. And, you know, we're struggling a little bit with that at the moment. But as we build our team, we'll fill those gaps. And, you know, it's nice to be able to totally lean on them.

We have their 100% support. So I can't thank Mitch and Dennis enough, you know, for having that support because it's huge. They have so much we can learn from them. If people want to find more out about the SPP, where would you direct them? And as for, no, let's start there. Well, we have a website that we've been trying to get going. We did have a one when I came on board. It was like a one page thing.

Just basically gives our mission and a little bit about SPP because, you know, what being, you know, non-profit corporation, you know, non-political, not affiliates any political party, all those kinds of things. And then kind of, you know, the benefits of what we're trying to do in the educational piece. But that was it. So we've actually taken our entire website and moved it to a new server, which is on there now. And we have, there's actually work being done today on getting that website up and running. So once that is put in place, then we'll start adding all our resources. And we'll be building that really fast.

I've got a team working on getting numbers, crunching everything down and putting it in a nice readable format. Because you need people to see, like, this is the benefit, you know, just a financial piece of that. You know, where's our money going and what's it being used for? And if we kept it here, how would that work? There's a constitutional, you know, because you need that living document, that constitution while you make your transition from being a province inside Canada to becoming your own nation. I mean, those pieces have to be in place. So again, APP is working on that currently and it won't be long before they'll release that. You know, for us, we can pretty much probably take that piece and switch out the word Alberta to Saskatchewan

because they're really comparable to us. There isn't very much difference between the two provinces in most cases, you know, so that we can gain on that piece. And then if you go on to the Facebook, we have a, we have two things. We have a group and a page. And the difference is the group is a lot more where you can interact with other people. to talk about the different topics where the page is kind of more where our events are posted. But all of that will be on our website and that's really what's been holding us back to this point is how we don't have that website where you can go in and look where's what's the events,

you know, why do we want to do this in the resource pieces, right? So we're going to be on X as well. We have an account set up just waiting for someone to step up and take that over. We've got a lot of content creation that's starting to happen. We've got some good people on board. So we're kind of, you know, like we're kind of literally on the basement floor of building a house and trying to put all the pieces in place quickly. So we've got that good foundation to build off quickly. And forgive me, because I can't remember if you said it or not, but the website that people should be directed to Saskatchewan Prosperity Project?

Yes. So it's skprosperityproject.com. There we go. Okay. And if they're looking for it on Facebook, is it the same thing? If they just search out the name, they're going to find it. Yes. Okay, so you type in Saskatchewan Prosperity Project through the normal side

where you find the groups. You'll find our page there. And on there we have, right now we're posting all our events and we will be plugging our website. That will be added to the top header so that you'll be able to see it right away. Just because we haven't really been trying to get people directed there because that website's been pretty much stagnant. But here's the problem.

Three years ago, somebody tried to start the Saskatchewan Prosperity Project and when the gentleman end up having health issues and that kind of stalled everything. And their page is still out there on the web as far as a website. And then they also had, they were tied to a political party. So it's kind of confusing for a lot of people. They see that and then they see ours and it's about what is what. You know, ours has the SPP logo that looks very similar to APP.

you know that's with the sheets with the weed on it that is our logo and that's that's how you know that that's the current and new stuff. So that's how I think a person would be able to identify us and separate us from those and we're trying to get those removed because we know who initially put

them on and we're just waiting to get a hold of them to have them taken down. Town halls. Where are your upcoming town halls that people, you know, might be interested in attending and just seeing, you know, in person type thing. Yeah, I'd like recommend coming out to town halls because there's a lot of information that we give there.

You know, so a lot of people will ask the question because they'll be talking to friends and it'll be, you know, like, yeah, but what are you going to do about currency or what are you, we're going to be landlocked and all these, you know, typical questions. But how about my CPP? So there's a lot of those questions that we answer. And then also, you'll give information how those people, how you can actually have that conversation with someone else who may not know anything or never thought about or on the fence. So the town halls that we've done have been just the people

have reached out to me where we'll be a lot more kind of strategic in the coming into January. So we're working with Prairie Rising and we want to do some larger events with them. So, you know, I've had Chris Barber actually come to one of our events and talk in Swift Current. Normally I bring him in through his Zoom, you know, wherever he is on the road. He'll, you know, Chris is a wonderful guy. He'll pop in any time. I love the guy. And, you know, because for me right now, it's mostly me that's speaking. So if I came up in your neck of the wood, Sean, I would invite you out to come up and say a few words because it's nice to have other opinions, right? Like to have Corey Morgan join us.

I want to do some with AP&P. We're going to have them come in and do some larger ones that can rejoin in Saskatoon in January. We're looking at Moostrow. We have a large one being planned in Weber and we're looking at Yorkton, just some of the moose straw, some of the bigger areas we haven't been in yet. So there will be lots coming up and some of the events will be much bigger events. Some will just be more low key with just myself there and maybe Chris coming in on a Zoom. Prairie Rising is likely going to be at a lot of them as well. Because we're trying to coordinate and do all those together because they need to speak to the pathway, you know, where we, I kind of do the educational piece.

This is what we're up against, you know, like the whole Senate thing, the lack of votes and, you know, just our future forward and what it could look like. and some of the issues and just cover those topics so people can, you know, do some thinking on it and make that decision, like I said, for themselves. You know, talking about the pathways and differences between Alberta and Saskatchewan, my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, it's not like Saskatchewan can have a referendum next year and boom, trigger a bunch of things. Saskatchewan is a little different in that realm, correct? Well, that's the beautiful thing, Sean. We are the only province in the entire country that does not have a referendum choice as far as I've been told.

We are completely different than everybody else, and I really wonder why that is. Because we only had the plebiscite system, now there's even questions if we can even trigger one of those. And that's where Prairie Rising come in because they're looking at that legal pathway and really what is the best way forward. Realistically, you know, Scott Moe's government

has a majority right now, they could easily put in motion the app you know the what's the right word the vehicle i guess in which we'd be able to trigger that vote and let the saskatchewan people decide people forget you know that we we are the government we pay the wages of everybody who works for the government and for some reason we always think we have to ask permission you know we have to go you know we have to ask for you know can we can we do this Saskatchewan party can we do this courts can we do this Well, the reality is that if the majority of people want to change and they want to become an independent nation, why do we have to ask permission? You know, so I mean, obviously we want to go the legal pathway, and that's our goal.

You know, what happens beyond that, you know, we have a few plans of some things that we can do to encourage the change, you know, peaceful ways and legal ways. But it's going to be a real fight because we don't have that pathway that other places. have and it's really unfair i'd like to see that just on his own beating challenge why are we treated so differently yeah well it's interesting to me because i mean you you watch alberta and some of the things that uh have been talked about there an alberta pension plan the police force i'm spacing on about six other things to try and do similar things to quebec but you know this year you had the uh citizen-led referendum that the number of people needed for that lowered right to make it more attainable and yet it's still a high number it's it's not like it's a small

feat to get to get a referendum put forward and you know and you have the the the Alberta government talking about different things like an Alberta pension plan and you know raising questions of like pulling back some of uh uh really important things because you know like people are concerned about those things rightfully so and if you had control of them like say Quebec all of a sudden, then you could just put those, well, no, we already have that and we already have that. And we already have that. So when you're talking about Saskatchewan, you know, in the beginning, you don't even have the ability right now as citizens to get a binding referendum question where if you had enough signatures and play out the Alberta model or the Quebec model, you don't have that yet. So there is a lot of work in Saskatchewan to do. But getting the conversation going is probably, you know, the first uh part of that because you need the the citizens to understand oh this is a possibility and maybe we could push on our government to do that and then maybe we could start to pull things back to saskatchewan because alberta's actively working on a whole bunch of this and being our neighbors

to the east you know it's like and and so much ties between the two provinces it wouldn't shock me to see Saskatchewan go at a at a quite a fever pitch if Alberta ever got there um you know not overnight but at the same time not 10 years out you know if if the conversation really started to pick up steam which i think it is i mean everywhere i go i more and more people are talking to me about it which goes back to you know one of the things you said at the start it's like you just got to sit down and ask yourself what what could life look like if we if we started to do things differently and if we started to do that and everyday citizens all through Saskatchewan started to talk about it you just never know the population of Saskatchewan is a heck of a

lot smaller than Alberta let alone any other province pretty much in in Canada and you just wonder how quickly that conversation could spread well I think you hit the nail on the head there You know, I honestly don't think that a lot of people have ever thought about it. I always was, like up to a couple, maybe six months ago. I was kind of always thinking it'd be nice to have more autonomy like Quebec, where we had a little bit more control maybe over, you know, like pension plans and some of those things. And then when I did that list up, I realized that what are we doing? There's no reason for us to stay.

Like we're not at any advantage to staying. There's zero advantage. And, you know, when you look at Alberta at how long they've been working at, that. I think we will have a quicker growth because there's there's so much talk about it in Alberta and now people are more discussing that here in Saskatchewan. I think

if Alberta goes, there'll be a lot of people that will be quickly changing their tune because that is our brother's sister. I mean, just watch a Nemiton or a Calgary football game. There's a sea of green there. A lot of our people have emigrated and you know did that migration to the west.

So a lot of people here in Saskatchewan have relatives in Alberta as and friends just as as people in Alberta have friends and relatives in Saskatchewan so we're very very similar if you look at us culturally and value wise you know from the east to the west I would say that Alberta and Saskatchewan are very very close you know we've built our provinces off that sweat off the backs of of the people that came and settled here you know they built they they built up the farms they built up the industry you know so yeah there's a lot of similarities

Well, when you talk about the Freedom Convoy, you know, you bring up Chris Barber and then you, you know, and maybe people would bring up Tamara Leach, regardless, I just look at where are they from? Where do they live? It's Alberta, Saskatchewan, folks, right? And, and you go, well, I mean, it's just getting the conversation going. You know, before I let you out of here, is there anything else you want people from Saskatchewan specifically to know about whether it's town halls or just anything going on with the SPP? that you think would be relevant for them to know about? Well, I would say start with our, you know, Saskatchewan Prosperity website, the SKProsperity Project.ca. It'll be, it'll be opening up and launching here very soon within a couple of days. You know, watch the information on there. Get involved. Come out to the town halls, have the discussion because it's not an argument.

It's not, you know, any kind of a big, huge debate. It's more of a discussion, just what are the benefits? And I think you'll see when you stop and think about it, you know, we'll present a lot of points. When you stop and think about it, it will be very beneficial. We'll have lots of different platforms, you know, up and running real strong here like X's when we're looking at Discord. There actually we have a Discord account already. So there's lots of, and then we're going to have lots of TikTok creations too for the younger generation because we need to reach those people because this is what really going to affect them. You know, so that was kind of the main thing is just know that we're going to.

be out there you want a town hall call me get a hold of me i'm easy to reach on the website uh you know i have a cell number they can they can text me or call me on 306 939 77770 call me anytime i'm available can't say that when we get really busy that will be always but definitely right now i'm definitely accessible and always willing to talk and you know get these town halls set up and we want to come to every community we want everybody to sit down and have the conversation little hamlet with their little, uh, small hall, uh, the SPP, you know, I, I just chuckle about Saskatchewan. I can't wait to hear some of the towns that you're going to be doing town halls in. I love you, Saskatchewan. I'm from a hamlet of a tiny, nobody knows, right? And so I love,

one of the things I love about Saskatchewan is, where are you from? Then they say that they're like, eh. And then like, it's by here. And so I look forward to, you know, when we did our, our mashup tour of Saskatchew. We went to some pretty small facilities and great people everywhere we went. Either way, I look forward to seeing what comes to the SPP and appreciate you hopping on today, Brad, and give them some time today. Yeah, I'll give you one more quick story. So Raymore, when we did the one there, the small community of Raymore was out in somebody's house out in the country. So this lady was willing to welcome 70 people into her home. She had chili made for him before the meeting and uh you know we had a really nice bunch of people everybody

you know you want these small communities you know tomkins is what i think a population 160 and we had you know 20 of the locals more of what had from outside but there we had we're freezing rain that night um but that's the scatchewan i mean you would not go to new york and see somebody welcome 70 strangers into their house right i don't i don't think so but i can't speak for new yorkers So maybe somebody from New York can text me and say, actually, but certainly in Saskatchewan, yeah, that's that, I'm like, man, I bet you it was good chili too. It was. It was very good. And, you know, just wonderful people.

Everybody's, you know, hardworking and our values all line, right? You know, we're Saskatchewanians. So I'm proud of it. Brad, thanks for hopping on. Thanks for having me, Sean. Anytime, just give me a shout.