Shaun Newman Podcast - #995 - Alex Newman

Episode Date: February 4, 2026

Alex Newman is an award-winning international journalist, educator, author, speaker, and consultant who emphasizes glorifying God in his work and promotes constitutional principles from a conservative Christian perspective. He serves as president of Liberty Sentinel Media, Inc., senior editor and foreign correspondent for The New American magazine, and a contributor to outlets including The Epoch Times, WND (WorldNetDaily), and FreedomProject Media. He hosts the nationally syndicated program "Behind The Deep State," and has authored books such as "Indoctrinating Our Children to Death" and “Deep State".Tickets to Cornerstone Forum 26’: https://www.showpass.com/cornerstone26/Silver Gold Bull Links:Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/Email: [e-mail] Grahame: [phone]Bow Valley Credit UnionBitcoin: www.bowvalleycu.com/en/personal/investing-wealth/bitcoin-gatewayEmail: [e-mail] Integrated Wealth ManagementWebsite: www.i-wealth.caGet your voice heard: Text Shaun 587-217-8500

This is Viva Fry. I'm Dr. Peter McCulloch. This is Tom Lomago. This is Chuck Pradnik. This is Alex Krenner. Hey, this is Brad Wall. This is J.P. Sears. Hi, this is Frank Paredi.

This is Tammy Peterson. This is Danielle Smith. This is James Lindsay. Hey, this is Brett Kessel, and you're listening to the Sean Newman podcast. Welcome to the podcast, folks. How's everybody doing today? Happy Wednesday. Yes, we're back.

And, well, we got a give one on tap for you today. Before we get to the show, Did you know you can hold physical gold and silver in your registered account? Silver Gold Bull can help unlock the potential of your R-S-P, TFSA, R-R-I-F, or Kids, RESP, by adding physical gold and silver to your account. The deadline to make contributions to that is March 2nd, so just around the corner less than a month away now. And if you're interested in that, text or email, Graham, for details with any questions you have around

investing in precious metals or for feature silver deals exclusively for you, the SMP listener. You can visit them at Silver Gold Bull. dot ca.com depending on which side of the border you are on. Bow Valley Credit Union. Well, Red Deer and Surrounding Area listeners, you had a new lending and advice center open up here. Well, what was it? A little less than a month ago.

And yeah, they've got it. They're working towards a full service branch in Red Deer. It's all about lending deposits and real financial advice. You can open bank accounts, talk through lending options, and get help with banking, all in the space designed for conversations, not transactions. If you want smarter banking with gold, silver, bitcoin, sound money, and personal freedom, head to bow valley, CU.com.

Well, I've been talking about this for the first two days of the week. Integrated wealth management. If you've been wondering who you can trust with your savings, well, I want to introduce you to the new one to the show, Integrated Wealth Management. They're a full-service wealth management firm that actually manages money watching client portfolios daily and making real-time adjustments when markets change.

They see the same things, I think me and you are seeing, and that's, I don't know, the money printing machine. Yeah, massive government spending, rising instability, a lot of risk in government debt, so they use tools like precious metals and commodities to help protect your purchasing power. Most importantly, I think for me on this side, and hopefully for you as well,

they work with people who share their values. Family, check, community, check, hardworking, check. And living within your means, yeah, check. And personal freedom. Yeah. Check there too. If that sounds like you, go check them out at I-welfth.ca. That's I-dashwealth.c.a.

And see if integrated wealth management is the right fit for you and your family. Diamond 7 Meats here in Lloyd Minster is a family-run business with over 26 years of service offering more than just retail cuts. They provide livestock processing for farmers and ranchers in Saskatchezer in Alberta, including custom sausage making for both domestic and wild game. If you don't have your own animals, their retail sales connects you directly with producers offering sides or quarters of beef, pork, and lamb. Their experienced staff can help you fill your freezers with exactly what you need and none of that fake stuff, I might add. Find them on the north end of town, Highway 17 and 67th Street North, or you can give them a call today.

306, 825-9718, and tell them, Sean sent you. Caleb Taves, man, spit it out here. Wednesday! Yeah, I'm excited. new sponsor on the show, you know, people that have been emailing me a whole bunch. You know, I forgot to point out. Maybe I should point out, you know, I skipped over it, all right? Where I sit today, silver up, what is it, 7.2% up to a buck 15 Canadian, buck 15 and 88 cents.

So anyone paying attention to the old silver price, there's that. Renegade Acres, okay? They do the community spotlight here on the SMP, and we've been highlighting, well, we're 50, two days away from the Cornerstone Forum returning March 28th in Calgary at the West in Calgary Airport. We are now down to 104 tickets left. Do I need to remind people we sold 150 in one week? 104 remain, or I'll put that in a different terms, 10 tables remain.

So if you've been waiting, don't wait much longer, folks, because once she's sold out, there's no more, let's add a few chairs in. We're at capacity at 700. So if you're wanting to be there, I was just talking to Kristen McGowan today and she can't make it. And she's saying, you know, one of the things that I'm going to miss is the people that show up. You know, we're all so busy. We get going this way that way. She's going, I love the speakers.

But the community that shows up, there's just something special there. I agree with you, Kristen. And if you're sitting on the fence about whether or not you should attend, 104 tickets remain or 10 tables, don't wait much. longer, all right? To those asking about signing the petition, Thursday, February 12th in Lloyd Minster, there's going to be the opportunity. There's already places Leslie Say is a lady that is doing it. Rec techs have their doors open. So there's lots of different ways. If you're interested here in Lloyd and you don't want to wait until February 12th, shoot me a text and I can hook you up with some different

people that can, you know, get you signed up for a million Tuesday, February 24th. So pay attention to where those are going to be. If you're listening or watching on Spotify, Apple, YouTube, Rumble, X, Facebook, Substack, make sure to subscribe, make sure to leave a review. And I should point out on Substack. Kevin, I know you're listening. It was a great idea. If you want to, when I have recurring guests, I don't know, like Martin Armstrong tomorrow,

I'm putting that out on Substack so that Substack paid subscribers can interact and hopefully get a few questions asked to some of the recurring guests that are coming on, Martin Armstrong is hopping on. And so I've thrown that out to substack. So consider becoming a paid member and you get to interact with a whole bunch of things and maybe some behind the scenes and you support what I do. Just saying. All right, that's six minutes.

Let's get on to that tale of the tape. Today's guest's award-winning international journalist, educator, author, speaker, and president of Liberty Sentinel Media. I'm talking about Alex Newman. So buckle up. Here we go. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. podcast today. I'm joined by Alex Newman. Sir, great last name as you pointed out before we got

rolling. Thanks for hopping on. Hey, thank you very much for having me. It's honor to be here. And yeah, wonderful last name. I wonder if we have a long lost relative from way back in the day. So appreciate you having me. Okay. Well, it's your first time on the podcast. Alex, tell, you know, it's listeners who are pushing on me to bring you on and they do that with a lot of different guests. But I'm going to assume there's some SMP listeners who have no idea who you are. give us, I don't know, the short or the long on Alex. Well, thank you again for the opportunity. So I am a journalist by trade.

I'm a homeschool dad. I serve a senior editor of the New American Magazine. I have my own media company, Liberty Sentinel Media. I serve as a fellow at Classical Conversations, which actually the biggest homeschool program in the world is where I have my children enrolled. I wear about 80,000 hats, none of them very well. But journalism is my thing. You know, I try to honor and glorify God in everything that I'm doing, including my work,

including my family, including my business. And I follow a number of different beats very, very closely. And I have my entire career, the United Nations, the climate change, geopolitics, economics is a big interest of mine. Communist China, the rise of communist China. And I've done multiple books, three on education so far, including my newest one, Woken Weaponize, that I co-wrote with Robert Borton, CEO of Classical Conference. conversations. And I did a book on the Deep State a few years ago. I'm about to release the second edition. And that gives you kind of a little sense of who I am. For more, you just go to my website

Liberty Sentinel.org forward slash Alex and you'll find my whole bio there. Yeah. Well, we've had an interesting start to 2026. I don't know if that's the right word, but it has been a fast and furious first month here as we just enter February. One of the one of the things that you know, when you mentioned Deep State, you know, when I first started talking about different things, the World Economic Forum came up an awful lot in almost conspiracy tinfoil hat ways. And then this year, it was almost like everybody just accepted that it's not, I don't know, some fringe idea that it's actually going on. And you saw the United States take front and center role there of sending pretty much every last person.

compare that to the climate conference cop where the Americans sent nobody i'm guessing well i don't know i'm curious your thoughts on those two things well i was actually at the climate conference i've been going every year for 15 years now i missed a couple during covid because i wouldn't you know take their shot and all that but um but yeah i've been following the climate conference very carefully and i was in in the amazon rainforest for this latest one in belayne that was actually the cover story we did in the New American, that big demon statue that the communist Chinese gave to Brazil to be the official guardian spirit of the climate change summit. And there's several things going on here. You're right. Trump did not send anybody. I actually reached out to the State Department.

They're like, yeah, well, this conference is just aimed at bankrupting us, so we're not going to participate. And while I was down there, you have all these globalists, all these deep staters celebrating, yay, Trump's not here. He didn't send anybody so we can pass an ambitious agreement. And then in three years, when America gets a more reasonable president, they'll be right back. And we'll force some to obey whatever we come up with this year. And then Trump trumped that by withdrawing from the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, which is actually both the treaty and the bureaucracy that's at the foundation of what the UN calls the climate regime. So I view that as a major blow to the deep state. You're also right about kind of the concept of a deep state, right? For many years,

the official guardians of public opinion have told us that anyone who suggests that there's anything going on behind the scenes is somehow a kook and extremist, a Nazi, a homophobe, you know, pick your nasty word. But then, you know, it got so blatant that everybody could see it that they started bragging about it. You had a senior bureaucrat writing in the New York Times. Like, yes, there's a deep state. And yes, we're trying to sabotage Trump. And isn't it amazing? You should thank us, America. So when I was doing this book, we first published it back in 2020. This is something that I have followed almost my entire career. You know, what's going on behind the scenes. And at this point, it's often derided as a conspiracy theory. But I just say, you need to look at

the definition of conspiracy. Two or more people working together in secret for illegal, immoral, or nefarious intent. And then there's conspiracies everywhere in your city council, in your local 7-11, you know, all the way up to the federal government. Surprise. So I've been following that for a long time. And Deep State kind of took on the meaning of referring to like the permanent bureaucracy. And there is a problem. permanent bureaucracy, and it is hostile to kind of the values of liberty, the principles that underpin our civilization. But I take it a step further and I say, no, there's a deep state behind the deep state. And so I look at the different groups, the Bilderberg, the weirdos at the

skull and bones. And I think that's really the more significant element of this. And so I'd like people to start realizing, we're not just dealing with an entrenched bureaucracy here. We're dealing with people who have very different values than a mainstream American or a mainstream Canadian who are working to erode our liberty, erode our national sovereignty, and ultimately make the world look a lot more like communist China. You go back to this, I forget what you called it, but going back to climate change, and what did the Chinese gift, the demon-horned, or forgive me, the dragon-horned, I don't know what to call it. I'll let you describe it for the listener. Yeah, well, for those who are watching, I actually have a picture that we took.

This is what it is. I'll describe it for those who are listening to us. It is, they called it a dragon jaguar spirit. And the Chinese said, you know, the Chinese dragon spirit merging with the Brazilian jaguar spirit. And then you've got this hideous creature with fangs. You can almost imagine the blood dripping off of. It's got these demon horns. These crazy eyes. It just looks demonic. And it's got massive human-like hands. And it's holding the world in its hands. And for the folks watching, you can kind of see you've got the little doves flying off the planet as this hideous creature holds it. And it says cop 30 on it. So this was the official guardian spirit of the summit. And a lot of the fake media and even some of the alternative media said, oh, nothing really happened there, you know, because the U.S. government didn't show up. It was kind of a flop. Some even called it a cop flop, a flop, a flop, whatever.

That was not my experience. I mean, if you read the final agreement that came out of this thing, they talk about carbon budgets. They say humanity has a carbon budget and we've already burned through four-fifths of it. And by the way, third world countries and nations, China, India, whatever, they get to use most of what's left because America, Europe, you know, Japan, you guys already used up yours. And so this is the direction they're moving in. And it's true right now the totalitarians put a higher value on cheap energy so they can run their AI. systems to spy on you and create a profile on you and enslave you. But ultimately, they're going to get back to this climate scam because it underpins the entire machinery, the entire agenda for a

global political, economic, and religious system that they've been working on now for decades. I find Trump, I don't know if I'm going to summarize this best. So feel free to pull holes in what I'm seeing. But, you know, like, so Trump doesn't go to cop and the official, you know, guardian of it looks straight on demonic, right? I think that's just a, I think we can all agree. You look at that. You're like, that's an interesting choice, even with the doves flying off the world. It's like, look at the, think of the symbolism in that.

He creates the Board of Peace, which I'm still like, you know, like to me, it looks like they're counteracting some of the world organizations there. But what's the first country to join? El Salvador. And what's El Salvador doing? They're praying before meetings and they've got a Christian leader. And it looks like, I don't know, on the world stage, you're seeing the development of two different ways of looking at the spiritual side of the world.

Am I wrong in simplifying it to just that? No, I think you're exactly right. And in my companion article to this main cover story actually deals with exactly that question, Sean. It's about the repaginization of the world. And of course, there is a major pushback. We're seeing this from Javier Milay, who went to the World Economic Forum and told them to their face. We've got to go back to Christian values to restore our society. You have people like Victor Orban saying, we are a Christian country, and we are not going to be adopting anything else.

We're not going to allow millions of Muslims in here. We're not going to do it. So you have a very, very significant pushback, unlike anything that I've ever seen in my life. But in parallel with that, we have the most profound, the most rapid, effort to repaginize the world that I've ever seen. And I'll give a brief history here. Sure. You know, Rome was a pagan society when Christianity came on the scene. When Jesus Christ came on the scene, Rome was thoroughly pagan. And it had pagan values. They worship pagan deities. They had weird sex orgies. They put babies outside to die if the babies were not wanted.

You know, slavery was very widespread. And as the Bible, as the words of Jesus and the teachings of Jesus spread through Europe, there was a radical transformation of all the those societies and it became eventually what came to be known for many centuries as Christendom. And, you know, did they always do it right? I mean, no, obviously. But generally speaking, societies held to relatively Christian values. And then those values started spreading out all over the world as Africa, Latin America, you know, parts of Asia came under the dominion of European monarch, some of whom were not very nice people, but of course, missionaries took the chance to go there and all that. Now we're watching an effort to undo all of that, right? They want to rewind the clock.

And it was never as clear to me as it was in the Amazon rainforest just a couple months ago. They had pagans from every kind of denomination you could imagine. They rounded up all these Indians that they said were from the forest. And they started all these meetings with like prayers to the river gods and the tree gods and the rock gods. And, you know, humbling ourselves before Mother Earth and asking Father Sky not to destroy us for our carbon footprint and things like this. I've never seen so much paganism in one place. And it goes back to in the 1960s, a very prominent American professor, Lynn White. He taught at Stanford.

He taught at Princeton. He taught at UCLA. He came up with this hypothesis that the reason we had what he called an ecological crisis was because of Christianity. It was because of the Christian way of looking at things. And most people in the West, even the ones who absolutely hate Christianity and reject the Bible, they still see the world through a relatively Christian lens. Their parents still said, don't cheat, don't steal, don't lie, you know, all these things. And they still kind of understand man's place in the cosmos through a biblical lens, even though they don't realize it.

Lynn White said, that's the reason the planet is dying. He said, you know, Christians have put out this ridiculous idea that they're made in the image of God, that God put the planet here for our benefit. And we've got to overturn that if we're going to save Mother Earth. Now, mind you, this was before the climate scam. This was before even the global cooling hoax. but the ideas took root. And so that's what we're watching right now.

A few years ago, Sean, I was in Egypt for the climate conference that took place there. If I'm not mistaken, it was in 2022. And they just like totally openly unveiled the new and improved 10 commandments. They walked up to the top of what they said was Mount Sinai, where Moses received the 10 commandments from God. And they unveiled this new and supposedly improved 10 commandments where your sin is no longer your idolatry, your murder, your theft, your lies, your adulteries. No, no, no, your sin is your carbon footprint. Your sin is you're polluting the planet or whatever. So this was massive event.

All these different religions of the world came together and said, we're uniting on these principles. Some years before that, they were in Cancun. And the head of the whole thing, the head of the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, Christiana Figueres, I'll never forget. She starts off the whole summit with a prayer. I'm like, wow, this is weird.

I never saw a UN summit start with a prayer. And she says, dear ekschel, Please help us to create a creative tapestry of solutions to save the climate from whatever. So I whip out my laptop and look up this ekechel. It turns out ekechel is the pagan Mayan deity of cannibalism, war, and human sacrifice, which I thought was a very appropriate way to start the climate conference since we're going to be sacrificing enormous numbers of people to this crazy ideological framework. So that's kind of the meta-narrative of what's happening here, Sean. And not one in a thousand people who's participating in this.

even fully understands it. But it's an effort to roll back the spread of kind of Christian ideas, Christian civilization, and return to the pagan values that so many of these people think were superior, unlimited government, et cetera, et cetera. So it's got political, economic, and theological implications. I guess where I was going was I, you know, I got my, my notebook right in front of me and right at the start of it. I wrote out, to me, my favorite, there's lots of thing from scripture I really enjoy but the one that always sticks out to me is Ephesians 6 you know put on the full armor of God so that you will be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil for our struggle is not against flesh and blood but against the rulers against the powers against the world

forces of this darkness against the spiritual forces of wickedness in heavenly places and I'm just like you know like one of the realizations I had Alex as I you know as I had my journey with the podcast is I ran in full force to that and it just is it was a sharp, sharp realization of like, holy crap. And now like when you're talking, I'm like, I just see it, you know, I see it playing out in a lot of different senses of like, you know, we're like removing Christianity from the board. It's like, no, that was a terrible idea. We shouldn't do that. We have to have, you know, all these even prayers, which is a scary thought. I'm like, oh man, that's a scary thought.

To anything but Christianity, what, you know, Jesus, God, all these different things. It's like push, it's trying to pull us away from that. And you think, where does that take us? Alex, where does that take us? I noticed the same thing, Sean. And that was actually in a roundabout way how I came to believe the Bible. I'm studying all this. I'm in college.

I'm an unbeliever. I totally reject Christianity. and I'm studying how the world really works. I'm looking at this crazy effort to build this diabolical totalitarian global system. Wait a minute. That kind of lines up with what people have told me is written in the Bible. I better read this thing myself. So it was a realization for me, too, that you cannot simply look at what's happening

in the world through a materialistic lens. You will not understand what's going on, right? How does an atheist look at this image of this devil thing that the child Chinese rolled out and say, oh, yeah, that's probably just some weird thing that somebody came up with in their imagination. And so if you boil down what is at the core of what they believe, I think it's actually most perfectly summarized by Jesus himself. He's quoted twice in the Gospels in Matthew and in Luke. He says, if you're not with me, you're against me. And that's what the scripture teaches. Ephesians is a really good example of that. We're not dealing just with like bad guys, Bill Gates and George Soros.

We all know all the supervillains, Klaus Schwab and the rest of the clown car. There are powerful forces behind them. And as you read, for example, the Apostle Paul, the greatest evangelist of all time. This guy was a mass murderer of Christians. Okay. He was a... He is my... He is the reason.

I shouldn't say the reason, Alex. But of all of the New Testament, his story is one of the most profound. that you can read. And his writings are profound. I was just reading Galatians today this morning. Anyways, carry on. It's amazing. And, you know, this phenomenon that I talked about where paganism eventually gave way to Christian.

That was a result of Paul's efforts, of course, guided by the Holy Spirit. Paul was the one who rent around Asia Minor and all through Southern Europe planting churches and discipling folks so they could go out and make more disciples. That was Paul's doing. And what Paul says in his letters to the various churches, I mean, he tells in Romans, he tells the church in Rome that God is soon going to crush Satan under your feet. And, of course, that's what happened as paganism gradually gave way to kind of the light of truth. But he describes some things that I think even a lot of Christians struggle with.

He talks about Satan, for example, as the God of this world, right? That's a weird thing to say. He describes him as the Lord of this age. You read First John. It says the whole world's in the power of the evil. one. And we don't want to misunderstand that, right? Satan's not like God, he's not a legitimate rival or

a counterpart to God, but it says he's blinded the minds of them, which believe not, and he's going about like a raging, roaring lion seeking whom he may devour. And so when we see all this evil, where is it ultimately coming from? Well, it's coming from the pit of hell. And so if

God said, don't murder, we should expect murder to be a very common theme with the diabolical forces that are against us. And what you find when you boil down their ideology, if you look at the global systems they're trying to build, it's essentially an inversion of the principles that God revealed to mankind through the scriptures as good. And these are principles that I think even unbelievers appreciate. And they try to find other ways of reasoning themselves into it.

Like, well, yeah, of course we shouldn't kill people because that might hurt somebody. They try to find philosophical or logical ways of reasoning themselves into these principles. But they're important principles. And they underpin basically everything that's good about. our societies and this effort to overthrow them just take the ten commandments right thou shalt not murder well you know there's a lot of people that need to be killed carl Marx is very open about there those Scottish highlanders right they're they're so unsophisticated they haven't even reached the capitalist face of course we got a wipe them out uh you've got uh thou shalt not steal well you know resources

aren't properly distributed and so we need to seize them all and redistribute them according to our new and improved plan uh thou shalt not covet right their their whole program is based on Covich is telling us that we need to hate the guy down the street because he's got a bigger house or a nicer car. We need to use the government to take their stuff so that we can all be equal. It's just a total inversion. And so what is the system they're trying to build look like? Well, the antithesis of everything good about our society. It looks like the Soviet Union. It looks like Nazi Germany. It looks like communist China. It looks like Cambodia under Pol Pot. It looks like Angola and Mozambique under the communist. It looks like Cuba under Fidel

Fidel Castro. And I could go on, but only perfected now. through artificial intelligence, the acquisition of almost endless amounts of data on everything you do, and a control mechanism more effective than anything else that's ever been devised in the history of mankind that would include central bank digital currencies, digital IDs, so that privacy is a thing of the past, agency, freedom, all gone, and you live so long as you are useful to your overlords, and that's it. I want to go back to something you said. You talked about being in college, and trying to understand how the world work and you're a non-believer, and I don't want to put words in your mouth because you might have said atheist,

you might have said something else, I'm not sure. Growing up then, you didn't, weren't a believer. If I was watching your stuff, Alex, I would have thought you would always been a believer. I'm curious about your journey then into trying to understand, you know, what set you off in that direction? And what did you mention like, well, I better go read the Bible. I mean, it seems like there's a bunch of answers in there. could you walk me through that just a bit deeper yeah happy to thank you Sean and I was a very rebellious

youngster I mean so I won't get into all the details I was a bad kid I got kicked out of school you know stealing parents car crashing I mean I did all kinds of bad things anything you can imagine I was involved in and a lot of my early rebellion was just like well you know society is kind of Christian and so I hate Christianity you know whatever society stood for parents stood for And that led me into some strange places. I was everything from, you know, militant atheist to, I investigated all the big religions. Maybe there's something in Islam. Maybe there's something in Hinduism.

So I devoured all these readings. I was an agnostic. I was a daist. I mean, I was all over the place. I went from Marxist to libertarian to anarchists, to, you know, I was all over the map. And then in college, I really got serious about trying to understand how the world works. Quite ironically, I got in some trouble with the law. and the law ordered me to do community service.

So I did my community service at a communist bookstore, and read a book about how the Federal Reserve works. I was like, no, wait, this cannot possibly be true. So I put on my journalist hat and I called the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta. Like, is it true? You guys are a private company. He was like, why, yes, let me put you in touch with our public information officer. So who owns you?

And so I'm just like blown away by this. How do people not know that our money is controlled by a cabal of private banks? Like, you know, cartel, basically. And so that set me off on. like studying, you know, how does the world work? Who's really in charge? What are they doing? Where are we going? And one day, I was running a college newspaper that I had started with some friends because all the local newspapers were such garbage, even though I was writing for them.

And one day I was working really, really late into the night. And I had what I can only describe as a supernatural experience. You know, the unbelievers out there, you can make of it what you will. I wasn't hallucinating. But I had what I would argue was a supernatural experience where I just understood. It was like a light switch went on that the. Bible was true and that the Bible explained these things. And so, you know, I ran outside. I called my wonderful Aunt Jackie who had been praying for me all these years and patiently debating with me on

abortion and everything else. Why, she was a Catholic, a wonderful lady. And so I ran outside and I called like, Aunt Jackie, Jackie, you were right. The Bible is true. Come down, honey. You know, the Holy Spirit has shown you the truth. And just so, you know, read it now. Let me send you a Bible. She sent me a Bible. And that was just a turning point. My life has never been the same. It never will be the same. And I'm very grateful to God for that. And of course, I had not read the Bible. So that began the process of, well, I got to know what it says. And then, you know, over the years, that was 18 years ago now, maybe, 17 years ago. I've been trying to understand it, trying to apply it to different areas of life and using it now as my framework through which I can understand the world.

You know, I guess on this side, when it comes to the supernatural experience and to the non-believers, and to the non-believers, you're not going to believe you anyways. Right. To the believer in me, you know, I'm curious, you know, in my brain, you're reading the Bible and you have the supernatural experience, but that doesn't sound like it because you do at that point, your aunt's like, well, I'll send you a Bible, honey, it's okay. Here it comes. I'm glad he finally found you.

What supernatural experience did you have? Was it you just sitting there and all of a sudden you felt the pull of it or was there something else going on? I just knew, like there wasn't like a vision. I didn't like hear anything. It was just like, the Bible is true. It was kind of like when you're working on a math problem and it doesn't make sense and you're thinking about it

and thinking about it and suddenly, ding, you get it. That's what it was like. And there's no real way to explain that. I don't think without the involvement of the Holy Spirit. And as a Christian, I believe God is one, but God is divided into three persons, the Holy Trinity. And when you read about how the Holy Spirit works, you know, that to me is the only sensible, credible explanation.

And one of the things that's so miraculous about this, you know, for the unbelievers who are thinking like, that sounds like crazy stuff, you know, that sounds like a mental issue or whatever, is there's a profound change that happens, right? When you realize that the Word of God is true and that Jesus Christ is, in fact, exactly who he said he was, the son of God, God incarnate, the King of Kings, your life is transformed. you become somebody who went from you know constantly i mean the bible described it as being bondage in bondage to sin and and that was me right without getting into all the details partying and drugs and girls you know like that was like what i lived for is like you know i need more of that that's where

i find my joy that's where i find my satisfaction and and when that light switch goes off it's suddenly like whoa you know that's not what the flesh may still be tempted you know it's not like you don't have any issues anymore like everything is fixed but you know you know you're But suddenly you're like, no, I just want to please God. Like I want to get that sin out of my life. Like my new master is God. And that, I don't know how you explain it in any other way if it's not what the Bible describes. And that was my experience.

You know, as the left likes to say, that's my lived experience. Who are you to argue? That was my lived experience. And I'm always happy to share that with people. And, you know, I know everybody comes to the Lord in their own way and everybody has their own experiences. But for me, that was essentially the process. Yeah, one of the things that, you know, I've tried explaining the peace I've had since accepting Jesus, but then it's like, it's almost like it doesn't fit into words.

And one of the best things I've heard, I think it was Charlie Kirk that said it. I'm sure others have as well. The piece provided is beyond human understanding. And so when you're trying to like, put it into a sentence so people can understand your experience, I'm like, I get it. I just get it. I'm like, it makes complete sense to me. Now, going back to trying to understand the world at play as we sit here today,

I wrote it down this morning. And I don't know. I don't know why I wrote it down, but I'm like, ah, heck, it's sitting there. I might as well, I read it. It's Galatians 5, 16 through 18. I didn't plan this, folks. I'm like, I'm reading Bible verses on the own podcast. That's a new one.

Not a new one, but it certainly doesn't happen that often. It's, this is what it says. So I say, walk by the spirit, and you will. not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the flesh desires what is contrary to the spirit, and the spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They're in conflict with each other, so that if you are led by the spirit, you are not under the law.

And when I look at the world and you see what's going on cop, and then I bring up the Board of Peace and the fact El Salvador is the first country to sign on, I am I right in maybe oversimplifying all over again? Because Paul wrote it, you know, is that you have a conflict, and it's between the spirit and the, the flesh. And so when you're talking about paganism versus Christianity versus a whole bunch of other

things, would it be, you know, the spirit is trying to war with a lot of the things being taught about the flesh. And I, once again, maybe I'm wrong on how I'm putting that together, Alex. I think you're exactly right in how you're putting that together. I mean, this is exactly what Paul is describing in Ephesians 6, right? We as Christians understand that we're battling against the world and the flesh and the devil. And so we have this internal conflict within us, right? Even though we are now led by the spirit, we're still stuck inside a fleshly body until we pass on to glory. And that fleshly body still has the desires of the flesh, right?

We still, you know, you're on the beach. You see a beautiful girl going by in a bikini and your body still is like, hey. And then your spirit's like, no, no, wait a minute. That's not good. So that's an internal conflict that rages within us. But outside of us, there is also a conflict raging. and it has been raging. It's already decided. The outcome is already sure. Jesus Christ secured the victory at Calvary. So the battle is essentially over. Satan has lost. He is not going

to get out of this alive. He's going to end up in the lake of fire for all eternity, along with those who follow him. But the Bible describes this celestial conflict that doesn't just involve human beings. It involves spiritual entities. It involves demonic forces. It involves angels. And to the person, who sees the world simply through a material lens, that doesn't make sense because it doesn't fit into what they can experience with their five senses. But it is, for me, crystal clear. It is self-evident that this is what's going on. You read about this, even back in the Old Testament, right? You go back and you read Daniel. You've got some really interesting things in Daniel about the Prince of Persia and the Archangel Michael. So this is a battle that has raged for thousands

of years. It began back when, you know, Satan through his pride, rebelled against God and tried to take his place and was cast down to earth. And, you know, he took some of the angels with him. So this is the nature of the conflict. And it's exactly what Paul describes. It's exactly what's described in so many parts of Scripture, whether Old Testament or New Testament. And thankfully, we know how it ends. And so the situation now is you've got God's kingdom and the kingdom of darkness led by Satan.

And Satan's kingdom is already defeated, but he has blinded the minds of them, which believe not. there are a lot of people who don't realize, as Jesus said, do with me or against me. There are a lot of people who are against him and don't understand it. There are some people who are against him and do understand it. These are kind of the height of evil where they realize they're warring against God. They're warring against God's creation and God's moral order. And so that's, for me, the only way to truly make sense of what's going on in the world. It doesn't fit into any other paradigm that you try to superimpose on what's going on in the world.

Yeah, the mental hoops you have to jump through to get to where some of these ideas are coming out of is you sit back and what is going on. But one of the things, you know, you brought up Lynn White and Christianity is the problem. You think these ideas have been at play for a long time and they've just slowly been seeping into society to the point where you look around and all of a sudden you're like, that doesn't make any sense. Why are we doing that? Why are we allowing this into, I don't know, the school system? you mentioned you homeschool and you look at some of the things that are entering the school system and I've been at play for for some time now. The longer, the older I get, the more I'm like, that doesn't make any sense.

Like that doesn't make any rational sense. And yet you have people fighting tooth and nail to keep it there. And if you fight against it, they go back to all the names. They'll slander you with all the names. And all you're trying to do is protect children, right? Like, I mean, it's pretty strange where we say, it in 2026. Sean, I want to bring these together perfectly.

I mean, it seems like this conversation was just divinely guided. But my new book that was just released last week actually starts in chapter one with the first guy who came up with the idea that the government ought to be educating our children. His name was Robert Owen. He's been almost entirely forgotten today, which for me is astounding. He was very influential in his day. There was like Owenite societies all over America, you know, his little disciples.

And this guy, I've been, I've had my eye on him for a year. years. But for this latest book, it's the first time I did a really deep dive and, you know, started getting his correspondence and the text of his speeches and I read through his autobiography because I realized this guy's really important. He's the first guy I can find that seriously says government ought to be educating our children, literally since like fascist Sparta. Okay. That's that's how long this gap goes. The Bible is clear. The job of the government is to punish evil. It's not to like educate your kids or any of that other stuff. So I'm digging into Robert Owen. First of all, he's a, he's a communist before Karl Marx comes along. This is early

1800s. He claims his way of articulating what he's doing is he's fighting against what he calls the Great Trinity of Evil. The Great Trinity of Evil, he says, is marriage and family, right? Private property. God said, thou shalt not steal. And so, of course, those who hate God want to overturn his moral order. That's the foundation of private property. So private property is the second element of this great Trinity of evil. The third element of the Great Trinity of Evil is what he calls irrational systems of religion. And particularly he's got his eye on Christianity. So this guy sets up a commune in the state of Indiana, and he attracts all these weirdo followers who want to try communal living with no private property, no marriage, et cetera. And of course, it fails, just like these ideas always fail because they're contrary to human nature, contrary to what's good.

But he concludes that the problem wasn't that the ideas were dumb. The problem is that all these goovers in his commune had been raised and educated in a very Christian, what he considered to be individualistic society. And so the solution in his mind is, hey, we've got to have the government takeover education so that the government education system can prepare these young people for life in a future utopia where we don't have marriage, private property, or religion. So he, it's an incredible story. It sounds like a conspiracy theory, but we've got all the primary source documents. He sets up what one of his loyal followers who eventually defected describes as a secret society modeled on the Carbonari. And the goal of the secret society is to have the government. takeover education. He writes all these essays. Long story short, they get picked up by the Prussian

ambassador, Baron Jacoby. They get implemented in Prussia. But the guy who defects from his organization, his name was Oristice Brownson. He was organizing the state of New York for the secret society. He becomes a Roman Catholic and repents of his involvement in this. And he says, the great object was to get rid of Christianity. The reason they wanted government to take over education was so they could get rid of Christianity. And here's the real kicker to bring it all back to the spiritual battle. Right before he dies, just a few months before he dies, a very humble guy, he convenes the Congress of the Advanced Minds of the World, and we're not invited. And so he admits in his speech, I have the text of his speech, it's mind-blowing. He admits that he's getting his ideas

from his spirit friends. He says he's communicating with these spirits using Ouija boards and they're tapping on furniture and walls. And they're the ones, he says, who are trying to to help him improve the race by implementing all these social reforms. So to go back now to the early parts of scripture, if you read Deuteronomy, if you read Exodus, if you read Leviticus, this is called necromancy. He was serving as a medium. And the Bible describes necromancy as an abomination, right? Communicating with alleged spirits of the dead is actually put in the same sentence

as sacrificing your children to demons. That's how seriously God takes this. And of course, he also makes very clear in the scriptures that you're not. not really talking to dead people. You're talking to spiritual entities that are maligned, that are demonic, not something people are supposed to be doing. Old Testament, Israel actually had the death penalty for that. And so that's kind of the genesis of when government took over education. And then you keep following all the key people down the lines. It's a fascinating story, Sean. The next big guy who imports this crazy system from Prussia back to the United States,

his name is Horace Mann. And everybody in education knows Horace Mann. There's like a thousand elementary school is named after Horace Mann. And so his wife is a big wig. And his wife's sister, Peabody, they're in what's called the Transcendentalist Club, where they're also surprised talking with their spirit friends. You get to John Dewey. Now, John Dewey thought he and his buddies were starting a new religion. It's called the Humanist Manifesto.

And it's a very materialistic religion. But ultimately, when you boil it down, if you read it, there is no God. We are our own little gods. We can decide for ourselves what's right and wrong. If you read it, it's the same lie. that Satan gives you in the garden, right? Genesis chapter three, ye shall be as gods knowing good and evil.

So you go from John Dewey to the modern day, and I'll wrap it here, but I could give a thousand examples. Today, the same people communicating with their little spirit buddies are openly running the education system. And all you have to do is read their books and listen to what they'll tell you. I'll give you two quick, three quick examples.

The lady who was hired by George H.W. Bush, the guy who went on TV and said, we're going to have a new world order. where a credible United Nations is going to rule the world. This lady, she says we're using education to transform, fundamentally transform society. She says we're using the social change function of schools to bring about this radical transformation. Well, she writes a book, she co-writes a book called The Light Shall Set You Free. And if you actually read the book, what she says is she is getting her ideas from spirits.

She calls them ascended masters. they're preparing the way for this new age, this fifth dimension. All right, fast forward a little bit. The head, the assistant secretary general of the UN, who's called the father of global education, his name is Robert Mueller. He creates the world core curriculum. He says it should be taught to every child in every school, in every country, and in the forward to the teacher's manual, which I have a copy of. They're trying to erase it, so it's hard to get your hands on. He admits that it's, it's all based on the teachings of Alice Bailey and the Tibetan teaching. teacher Javal Kuhl. Well, Alice Bailey was the founder of the Lucifer Publishing Company.

They've since renamed it to Lucius Trust because Lucifer publishing is a little bit too obvious. And the Tibetan teacher, Javal Kuhl, is actually an ascended master. It's a demon that Alice Bailey says she was channeling. And so I can keep going on down the line. These people will openly tell you in speeches, in their books, they're talking to spirits, and it goes right back to what we started with. I'm curious, and I'm probably speaking for the, audience. If I wanted to buy one of these books that you've written, I assume I know where to go,

but at the same token, where would people go to buy one of your books, Alex? Specifically this one, because it sounds fascinating. Well, thank you. So this one just came out. It is available on Amazon. It's called Woke and Weaponized, how Karl Marx won the Battle for American Education and how we can take it back. It's also available on my website if people want to sign copy at Liberty Sentinel.org. Alex, I appreciate you coming on. I like simplifying things, and I feel like when you're like, well, this person was a part of this Luciferan

publishing company and this is what they wanted to do and this is how to end. I'm like, you're making the simple connections that are probably all sitting there for all of us. And I think, you know, myself included, probably need to go pick up one of your copies of your book because, you know, the way you're framing things, feels really easy to follow. And I appreciate you coming on and giving us some time today.

Well, it's been a great honor and a pleasure. Thank you, Sean. And yeah, that's the amazing thing. It's all out in the open. Anybody can verify anything I said. Don't believe me. Go look up anything I just said. If you're like, that can't be, you'll find it's true. And thanks again for having me on, Sean. It's been a real, real pleasure and an honor. And I appreciate you very much.