Shaun Newman Podcast - #997 - Carlos De Silva

Episode Date: February 9, 2026

Carlos De Silva is a professional with over 20 years of experience helping clients invest in property or businesses in Brazil. His work emphasizes cross-border opportunities such as high-end gated communities, beach houses suitable for Airbnb rentals to generate income, and broader hard asset strategies as a path to wealth-building.Tickets to Cornerstone Forum 26’: https://www.showpass.com/cornerstone26/Silver Gold Bull Links:Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/Email: [e-mail] Grahame: [phone]Bow Valley Credit UnionBitcoin: www.bowvalleycu.com/en/personal/investing-wealth/bitcoin-gatewayEmail: [e-mail] Get your voice heard: Text Shaun 587-217-8500

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things in that make it a little more interactive if you would. All right, that's all I got for you today. Let's get on to that tale of the tape. Today's guest is a former Toronto stockbroker. Now he's helping clients invest in proper your businesses in Brazil. I'm talking about Carlos De Silva. So buckle up. Here we go. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. Today I'm joined by Carlos De Silva. Sir, thanks for hopping on. Thank you. Pleasure. Well, I got to give a shout out to, I hope I'm saying this right, Michael Layden for first connecting us. I point this out to every time a listener seems to point me in the right direction of a new podcast guest that I appreciate all the listeners constantly filling my inbox with different people to follow up with.

But before we get too far down the line, Carlos, let's just start nice, easy. Give us your story. So the people tuning in can learn a little bit about who Carlos is. I was born in Portugal, so I speak Portuguese, which is a help for what we're going to be talking about here. But I'm a Toronto boy. I went to Toronto when I was five years old, so been in Toronto all my life. I come from the financial sector. I was a stockbroker in Toronto for almost 22 years, right?

Okay. And in, you know, you're a lot younger than me, Sean, from... I was involved in the markets when you remember our old Nortel, our big telecom company? Yes. I was in the height of my career when, you know, every bank, I remember there was commercials on TV, commercials on radio, telling every Canadian you've got to buy Nortel, blue chip, safe like crazy. And I personally witnessed that stock go from 200 a share down to zero, right? Okay. I don't remember which I think if I'm not mistaken it was either the teacher's pension fund or the fireman.

Like one of these large pension funds were heavily invested in Nortel. They almost went belly up because of it. Right. So it was a really. And I remember I came home that day and I told my wife said like, this is just paper. Like it's not worth anything. So in early 90, my business partner and I, from the firm as well, Well, we decided we were going to get into real estate, right?

Okay. And because I lived in Scarborough, what I did originally is me and my ex-wife bought three, three-bedroom bungalows with basement apartments. Okay. My business partner, John, out Noshua, decided he was going to buy an 11-plex out Noshua, right? And I remember over the next couple of years, Sean, we used to have kind of friendly debates. He'd say, ah, you're nuts because every time you have to shovel snow, you got three different properties. Mine are all over in one place. place and I get that but what I started realizing is I had a lot more flexibility

and what I mean my flexibility is we all know that from 1990 right till you know 20 13 20 the market was just you can you didn't have to be I remember we used to go to party sometimes because my I'll skip a header here by about 2000 2000 and 1 2002 my ex-wife and I had 15 rental properties all three bedroom bungalows with basement apartments because I'm a kind of guy that if I get into a niche and I see that it's working, I kind of just stick there, you know what I mean? Right? Okay. So we have 50 properties. And what I found is that I had flexibility because as the, you know, in the 90s, you buy a house for 180, 190. Next year it's up 20%. The year after that, it's up another 20%. And I was

flipping a lot of them. Some of them I, I'd rent over them and then resell them and buy back. So I had more flexibility because I'm dealing in a product that's 190. to 200, his 11 plex was at the time, I think about four or five hundred. So that's all, that to me was a lot harder product to be as flexible as I was. Right. And so I liked it because of that. So like I said, we had rentals and we had, we used to do an average of about two flips a year. Now in the 90s, I don't know about when Alberta, but in Toronto and Scarborough, in the 90s, I was buying a three bedroom bungalow for about 180 to 185,000. I took about 20,000. into it, the furnish it, painted, so I'm in for about 210. I'd flip that product within like

eight, nine months for 270, 275. It was a phenomenal market, right? Okay. Today, you can't. Like, you can go to the most horrible neighborhood in Toronto, a three bedroom bungler. You're talking 1.2, 1.3 mil, right? So there's no, in my opinion, there's no more value there. Now, what happened, why I got to Brazil is that one of my tenants that lived in one of our basement apartments was Brazilian. His name was Alvro. We became very good, good, good, good friends. And he started asking me, like, what do you do? So I've always been interested in real estate.

I've invested, you know, 30 years ago, I invested in Costa Rica, Panama, always beachfront property. I'm a big believer in beachfront property. There's an old saying, God's not making any more beachfront, right? So I've always liked it. And he said, well, you should go check out Brazil. So I came down in 2003 for the first time, okay, spent about two weeks in Brazil. I'm in the northeast of the northeast of Brazil, which is three main cities, Fort Leza, Reciphia and Natal, which is the one that I decided to work in.

And I fell in love with it, but I started investing in Brazil. I wouldn't say heavily, but 2005 I started investing in Brazil. And then post-COVID, I went really heavy in Brazil. And now I'm about... I just lost you for a second, Carlos. Let's talk again. Yeah. Oh, you...

Can you hear me now? Yes, I can. Yeah. Sorry, you mentioned you invested in Brazil back at 2005, and then through COVID, you started more heavily. And I kind of lost you there for a second. Yeah. So what happened, Sean?

Yeah, from 2005 till 2018, I was going back and forth. It'd be like two months in Brazil, eight months in Toronto, right? Okay. And then I think we, I don't know if we want to go into the thing of why I decided to stay in Brazil. Well, well, before we jump too far, I'm going to, I'm going to pull you back for a second here. I want to go back to Nortel for a second. Because what year did Nortel all that go down? Oh, I'm horrible with years, but I think in the 90s sometime.

Okay, so I am just a but a kid. So the reason I ask about Nortel is you said, you had the stark realization. This isn't real. I was hoping you could explain that just a touch more. Sure. I came out. I left the brokerage industry and decided to leave the industry. And not, you know, I'm not going to say it's because I was smart.

It was just coincidental. I decided I left in 2000. I decided that I was going to get out in 2000, right? Okay. Just before that whole Y2K thing from 1999 to 2000. And I just, and I left because I honestly, and to this day, I believe it, the average Joe does not stand a chance to ever make a dime in the brokerage industry. I've talked to a lot of friends, my ex-wife being one of them that's still,

she's been investing in the stock market for, you know, 25, 30 years. And when I talk to most people, if you average it out over the last, if you had a portfolio for 20, 30 years, you're either basically flat or down a little bit. It's a loser's game. The insiders will always make money. You know, I'll give you a great example, probably the best example I can give you. I used to work for like small boutique firm. Okay.

And what happened? It was an interesting thing because when I first got my license, I knew nothing, nothing about the market. And I went to my manager, I said, you know, what do I do? I don't know anything about this. And he gave me a piece of device and I'll never forget. He said, Carlos, pick one stock, get to know it really, really well. So when you talk to a client, you sound intelligent. Right. Okay. So the stock that I decide, oh my God, now I'm trying to remember the name. Anyways, it was a small little junior mining company, right? I'm trying to remember. The name will come to me.

because I used to say the story so often, but the name, it wasn't Breaks. It was another little mining company out of Northern Ontario. So I got to know that company really well, Sean, okay? Got to know, like, started researching the directors and all that. And I realized that one thing that I saw is that in the wintertime, when they weren't drilling, that stock was between 50 to 60 cents a share. In the spring, when they started putting out their assay results, that stock would come up from around 60 cents to about 85, 90. And midsummer, when I was a bunch of things, that stock would go to about 110 to 120, right?

Okay. And I started watching it year after year after year. And I started, it was the same pattern every year. So I'll never forget that one day I'm sitting at my desk, it was wintertime when the stock was 50 cents. And I thought I was Warren Buffett. I said, I'm going to buy 10,000 shares at 50 cents. because I think in the summertime, and I went home and I told my wife, I said, listen, I think I'm going to double my money on this stock.

And sure enough, I doubled my money. I think I actually sold more. Like I bought it at 50, 55, and I sold that about 110, right? Okay. And I thought it was like I thought it was the smartest guy in the world where this one friend of mine that had left the company that I worked with and went to work for Wood Gundy. Now Wood Gundy, there's a name that that's also like way in the past in Toronto. It was a huge firm, right?

And he would call this because even though within brokers, we used to call each other and give like stock tips and all that. And I'll not forget this guy, Paul calls me up one day in the summer, right, and says, hey, Carl, you should check out, you really look to look at, God, I wish I could remember the name of the company. It's going to come to me. He goes, you've got to check out the stock. Our analysts have a huge buy recommendation on it.

I said, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute, Paul. You guys are recommending it at a dollar. 10? He goes, yeah. So one thing that I understood, and I don't know if your listeners know this, a brokerage firm, Sean, can buy stocks, can sell stocks to a client in one of two ways. As an agent, which means that they don't own the stock. So they go, let's say you want to buy Microsoft and you call your brokerage firm. If they don't own Microsoft shares, they act as an agent. They go into the market and buy it for you and charge you a fee, right? Okay. But another way that a brokerage firm sells your stock is that's what's called a principal position.

That means that that firm owns that stock, and they can sell it to a client. And if the stock is up, they actually make that profit. If the stock is down, they lose the money, right? Well, I knew that if anyone was smart, they would have bought that junior mining company at 50 cents in the winter, right? So the first thing I said to Paul, my friend, I said, Paul, is what Gundy agents or principal on this thing? He goes, let me check.

called the back office, he comes back on the other, he goes, no, we have a principal position in the company. And I said, son of a guns, they for sure were buying this stock in the winter at 50 cents, right? Okay. In the summertime when the stock's at 110, 120, flogging it out to their clients with big buy recommendations from their analysts, fully knowing, Sean, in my opinion, I can never prove it, but in my opinion, fully knowing that come wintertime, that stock was going to pull back again, right? Okay. So I left the industry because I realized when these brokerage firms are making billions and billions of dollars, I think you have to be crazy to think that they're making that kind of money on a 2% commission. There's no way. They make money because they buy principal positions when they know the stocks are low. You know what I'm saying? Right. So I thought to myself, how is the average guy ever stand a chance to make money in this market? It's just like the most corrupt thing I've ever seen in my life. Right. Okay. So I left. I didn't like what I saw and in 2000 I left and from 2000 to 2007 me and the same one of the partners that left with me

the same guy that we did real estate we started a little venture capital firm where we were the race capital for private companies and help them go public I love that I really enjoyed to that I did that for seven eight years and then I joined those times like I said I always was into real estate and then I just kind of gravitated into real estate which is something that I kind of just like more because I'm a big believer. You know, there's a, I always tell people, if you look at the, what, you know, we all know her, the one percenters, right, the elites and all that, they have a rule that I read a book.

It's called the one-third rule. They have never, if you look at all those families like Rockefellers, the Vanderbiltz, they have never put money, family money into the markets. They buy three asset classes of what they call it third, a third, a third. The first asset class that they buy is raw land, okay? And I'll tell you, so what I've tried to do in my life over the last, since 2000, when I left, is try to emulate what they do, except on a much smaller scale, right? So they buy, when I say they buy raw land, they're buying millions and millions of acres of raw land, right? Okay.

When I was a broker, Sean, there was always a saying that when the economy took a hit, the number one producing asset class. I don't know if that's now the same thing, but I remember when I was a stockbroker, the number one producing asset class was raw land when everything went too bad. You know what I mean? Okay. So the elites buy raw land as a, and so what I do, I can't afford millions and millions of acres, but when I started going to Brazil in 2005, I started buying a plot of land here, especially if I could buy beachfront. I was buying beachfront property in the town in 2005 so ridiculously cheap. Like it's not as cheap as it wasn't, but it's still cheap compared to anywhere on the world. So that's number one, raw land. Number two is they buy real estate, but they're buying castles, right? Okay. I can't afford a castle. So,

So what I started in 2015, like, I'm not, I'm in Brazil right now because I think that's where the opportunity is. But in 2005, I think it was 2011 to 2015. I was in Detroit City. I don't know if you remember. I think it was 2012. Detroit almost went bankrupt. You remember that? Okay.

So we were buying bungalows, three bedroom bungalows in Detroit. I'll never forget for between 20 to 30,000 U.S. And this is a time when a bungalow in Toronto would cost you four or five, hundred thousand, right? Okay. So for about three years, I did that in the Detroit by buy a property for 2025. I'd fix it up, seven, eight grand. So I'm in for about 35, 40. I'd hold it for a couple months and I'd sell it for 55 to 60. So I did well in Detroit there for a while, right? Okay. I stopped. It's a longer story, but I stopped because I forget the years are horrible with years, but I remember the Trump on his first term, I think, was making big promises that he wanted to

bring back the car companies to Detroit and all that. And it never really happened. So, So things stagnated. So I left after a while. But yeah, so that's Acid 2. They buy real estate. Acid 3 is fine art and jewels. Now, the same thing. Fine art.

I tried to figure that industry. It's really, really hard to get into a jewel. So I dabble a little bit in diamonds and gemstones. I'll buy certain stones. I specifically like Burmese rubies. I kind of know that sector. So I'll buy them. I'll hold them for about five, six, seven months.

and I'll reflip it. And I find I do well with that. So I do that one third, one third, one third rule just on a much, much smaller skills than what the elites do. Curious about the one-third rule. I don't hear, although you say fine arts and jewels, I don't hear precious metals. So I don't hear gold, silver. I don't hear Bitcoin.

I mean, Bitcoin hasn't been around that. I don't hear Bitcoin. Has your mind changed on that over time? or you stick to raw land, real estate, and fine art and jewels? No, I think a great question. When you're talking gold and silver, in my opinion, it is like, well, first of all, I think it is included in gold and silver, but gold and silver, Sean, golden silver, especially gold, it's an interesting thing.

I'm not independently wealthy by any means, don't get me wrong, since 2011, because I told you, once I kind of realized that it's all just paper, like paper is valueless, right? My attitude today and the clients that I work with, our attitude in a short thing is that if we can't touch and feel what we're buying, we're not interested. Like I want to be able to touch what I'm buying. You know what I mean? And gold and silver, sir, although, Sean, I won't preface that. Most, a lot of times when I talk to people about do you buy gold, oh yeah, I love gold, Carlos. And I always ask them, what do you buy?

Most of them either buy gold stocks, which is okay. But a lot of them buy gold certificates, right? Okay. If I ever am on the phone with a client, then he tells me that he buys gold certificates. I'll always tell him, if you got a couple of minutes, go pull up your certificate. I want to show you something. And I guarantee you, anyone that's holding a gold certificate, check it out. You know, it's a little fine print. You go to your bank and they give you a gold certificate that you have this much gold. But the fine print says that if that institution gets into financial trouble, all you're holding is a piece of paper. You're holding nothing, right? Okay. The only thing that I buy in gold and silver is gold and silver is

gold bullion and silver bullion, right? Okay. So since 2011, every month, if I had spare cash, I would buy either a gold bar or a silver bar. More silver because just, you know, cheaper so you can get more. Right? Okay. Yes. So here's the interesting thing about gold and silver. Oh, and I was doing that since 2011, buying, buying, buying. Now, oh, if we go back about seven, eight years ago, when Bitcoin first started coming out and then every, I think it was every week, there was some new cryptocurrency coming out. Do you remember that? Yes. And I was, Sean, I was pitched. I don't know how many crypto coins that I was pitched over the last day. I kept saying no. No, I just know. First of all, I didn't believe in it

for the longest time, right? Okay. I said, no, I think this is just a fad. It's not going to go. Now, you know, me saying it's a fad. I was offered Bitcoin. I'll never forget when it was 75 cents a coin. So some fad. But anyway, it might my my take on cryptocurrency. is that I didn't believe in it. I now do, I'll come to the realization that it is a legitimate currency for a lack of better word, but all we hear now is Bitcoin. All out of the coins, you don't hear much about them anymore, right? Okay.

So Bitcoin has kind of, you know, broken that glass ceiling has become a, but here's the interesting thing. When I was being, every time I was trying to talk to clients about buying some properties on Brazil or some diamonds or something, they'd always say, Why would I like they would ask me. Let me ask you something. If I buy a house in Brazil, what do you think it's going to go up in a year? I said, you're going to get about 12 to 15% on average.

Oh yeah, well, I'm in this coin that I'm making 10% a month. I said, yeah, I got you. And when I would talk about gold, I don't know if you remember, Sean, now over there, if we go now over this last six months, gold and silver have gone nuts. But there was a seven, eight year period there. It was flat. You remember that? Right?

Well, in fairness, I don't, I want to be very. I don't remember it because I wasn't paying attention to it. But I could look and pull up the charts and look at it and be like, what we're in right now is something pretty spectacular. Yeah. And, you know, the Bitcoin thing, you know, I think about it because, you know, you talk about 75 cents. I talk about 10 grand. I remember when it was 10 grand and sitting there and watching it and being like,

I don't even know what this is. I can't even figure it out. And now I kicked myself because I'm like, you could have been in a 10 grand. I wouldn't have been that hard. I was offered at 75 cents. You know, we all have what I call it, if I'd have story. If I'd have done this, if I'd have done this, I'd have done that. I think, if I'm not mistaken, it was in 2000 or 2001.

I had an office in Pickering, Ontario. And this buddy came to me and said, hey, new coin being launched, this thing, cryptocurrencies called Bitcoin, 75 cents a share. And I'll never forget what I said to him. I said, Dave, this is a passing fad six months. This won't be here anymore. Whoops. Exactly.

But anyways, I was laughed out for those seven, eight years that gold was, gold and silver a flat, right? Ah, you're an idiot. And I just said, no, but I don't buy gold and silver. So in all honesty, my attitude when I buy golden silver, that's why I said that it's kind of outside of when I said the one third rule is that I don't think most people buy golden silver as a way to make money. It's a, it's a safe haven.

It's a edge against a downfall. You know what I mean? Right? Okay. Yes. And in my opinion, Sean, what we're seeing right now, I mean, silver, if we go back just to June of last year, I think it was $27 an ounce, right, silver, a coin. It went up to 118. It pulled back down to 65.

I think today it's like back at 78, 80, something like that, right? But in my opinion, and it's not, it's not me. I'm an idiot. I don't know, but there's a lot of analysts that I watch. They're pegging silver this year at probably between 130 to 150 and gold at about 6 to 6. $6,500, I believe that's going to happen. I think what's happening, in my opinion, is the cracks in this system, what I call the, like I said, the whole system is just corrupt beyond belief, in my opinion. I think the cracks have started to show. And I think that people, that's why they're trying to pull silver and gold down, but they can't do it anymore. I was just watching an analyst yesterday. He goes that it doesn't matter how much these guys are trying to pull silver down, that the man for silver is off the charge. If you try to go to any of, um, you're local store to buy a gold coin, they don't have them. They like their, they're, the supply is dwindling so bad and most, uh, central banks of all countries,

Russia, China have been buying up all gold reserves for the last couple of years, right? Okay. So I could be wrong, but I think what we're seeing, the reason that the two metals are starting to go like crazy is just the cracks in the, in the paper system is starting to show, right? Okay. And even though you know, the market is just before. I came on with you, I was talking to a client, and Dowell just hit 50,000, right? So everyone's all happy. But if I had, and this will be good because this is going to be recorded.

We're in February of 2026. Before the year is up, I think lots of people are going to have a, their heads are going to spin what's coming with the stock market in the U.S. I don't think it's going to be pretty. So. Well, I appreciate that. Well, I guess I just, the one third rule is really interesting. We're all in real estate, fine arts, and jewels.

Yeah. And then you're like, but I've been buying precious metals for a while. And when you talk about it, I'm the same belief, right? I want to feel it. I don't want some piece of paper saying, oh, you own. It's like, has anybody been paying attention to the world lately and everything going on? It's like, I want to feel the thing. I don't want to go, oh, yeah, I think I own some.

I got a piece of paper that says I own it. That means, well, it's about as good as toilet paper most days with the governments of the world right now, isn't it? Yeah, exactly. And let me just tell you, John, let me tell you something, because I remember certain debates that I had with clients, which are interesting. So I had another client that liked gold as well, right? Okay. And when gold was flat, because I especially gold, I remember it was sitting at between $15 to $2,000 an ounce for years, right?

Okay. And when we were talking about gold one day, he goes, yeah, I like gold as well. He goes, what do you buy? I say, I buy gold bullion. He goes, oh, you're an idiot. I buy gold coins. I say, oh, I don't like coins because when you buy a piece of gold bullion, you know what it's the spot price of gold.

You know what you're buying at and you know if you want to sell it what it's worth, right? Okay. Well, he goes, yeah, but let me tell you something. I have some gold coins that I bought when gold was like 1100 an ounce. So the gold value stayed flat for four or five years. He goes, but some of the coins that collectible value had gone from a thousand to 10,000. So he was bragging. I said, I get it. But I don't want to be involved in collectible value. Because collectible value is, again, it's just something that's in the air. You know what I'm saying? Right? Okay. So he made lots of money. While I sat on my gold for years and years flat. This guy made good money because he knew what kind of coins to like it. And it is true apparently. Some of these collectible coins go up. For me, I just don't want to be involved in that. I buy the gold bullion. So just to make sure do we understand, when I say the one-third, one-third, one-third, I think even with the large families, gold and silver have always been there as well. It's just that gold and silver is more of a hedge rather than something to try. But all of them, Sean, at the end of the day, have one thing in common.

can touch raw land, you can touch houses, and you can touch diamonds and art. It's all things you can touch and feel, right? And I think that is that, in my opinion, Sean, I always say when, because I do believe, I do believe that there's some nasty stuff coming out. Like I said, I think that the cracks started over the last couple of years. And I think people are waking up that it's such a manipulated system to system. And I don't, like I'm going to say this just in general, I think the people that are going to survive are people hanging on to hard assets, in my opinion. When it comes to, okay, when I go back through your story and you talk about, I started to buy three-bedroom bungalows, right? You started in Toronto.

And then, you know, you went from three to 15 and then, you know, but then your story jumps and now you're in, and forgive me, you rattled off a bunch of different places. You talked about, you know, wanting to be beachfront, which makes, I think the audience can make sense. And then you look around, I don't know, Canada, and you look at a beachfront and you go, I can't afford that. So I go, when did you make the jump to different countries, to different countries, not to Brazil, just in general, different countries. Sean, I've always, like, I believe, you know, I'm a broker, right? So we had that mentality, a broker's mentality is don't put all your eggs in one basket, right? Okay. And most people that when they say don't put all your eggs in one basket, what they mean is have some bonds, have some stocks, have some high tech. That's true, right? I just because I was a broker, I understood a lot more than not only a diversity of segments, but I've always thought that you have to diversify outside of countries. Because one country might be doing bad while another one's doing good, right? Okay. And so I like you said, for 30, I think 30, 35 years ago, I went to Panama and invested in Panama early on. I did okay there. Costa Rica did okay there. I went to

same kids. I did okay there. So I've always liked going to other countries, right? But then like I said, I came to Brazil because of tenant of mine. That's how I got to Brazil. And then Brazil, I really, like I did a lot more in Brazil than I did in any of the other countries. I'm still doing. I'm curious. How, I assume there was a learning curve to, you know, instead of just investing in Canada, right? You're living in Canada. I don't know. maybe I could just go invest in wherever, Alberta, Manitoba, the East Coast, you know. Instead of going there, you go, you know, you mentioned Panama, Costa Rica, Brazil. Was there a learning curve there to like, hey, I'm going to buy a place on the other side of the world?

I mean, relative. I don't know if it was, Sean, it was a simple, it was a simple concept for me. So, oh, sorry, and I could tell you, Florida, I did a lot in Florida, okay? And actually, Florida was probably the first place that I started going to, only because of the fact that when we, if we talk about buying beachfront in Canada, well, where are you going to buy beachfront in Canada for three months out of the year? You know what I started looking at snowbirds. You know what that is, right?

Snowbirds. Yes, I live in the Great North where there are snowbirds all the time. Yes. Both figuratively and yes. Yeah. Listen, I remember, I remember. I can't remember the years. I wish I can remember. I'm 61. I'm getting old. I'm getting, but I remember that me and there was the four or five guys that we've always used to do things together.

And we took a trip down to Fort Lauderdale, right? For Lauderdale, to Daytona Beach, especially Daytona Beach. And I'll never forget. I saw a, I think the name of the place was called Marco Polo. That was the name of the condo. It was one of these hotel condos where you could, it's a hotel, but you can buy a unit in it, right? And I'm telling you, this has got to be 2005, 2006, around there, something like that. A unit there was $100,000 U.S. on the ocean, right? So when you say learning curve, I don't know if it was, I think it was just a thing that when I looked at that, and I saw it to myself in Harborfront, which is Toronto, like that's where the lake is, right? At that time, a condo on the ocean, on the lake there, you're talking $500,000 in Toronto at that time.

And I can buy one in Daytona Beach for 100,000 that's a summer year route. You know what I'm saying? Right? Okay. So we started me, this was this guy there in terms. We got together this little group and started putting money together and buying. So we bought one unit there, right? Okay.

It was rented out for about, I think it was eight, nine months and then resold it. So I've always, I just always thought to myself, beach front is a good, like people, I think inherently, everyone, I think everyone has. You want to be by the water. You want to be by the water. You do. Exactly. Right. I think it's innate and everyone I think has a dream to own a beachfront property.

But in Canada, it just never made sense to me, right? It just never made sense to me. It makes more sense to be in a place that is year-round summer, right? So that's what. And so that was the only learning curve. So I went from Florida and then just thought, okay, well, if we can buy beachfront and if I would have known better, I would have kept all that beachfront property until today still, would have made a fortune.

But I'm a, you know, again, it's my broker mentality. If I buy something for a buck and it doubles, my mental sell. So walk me through Brazil then. Why do you settle on Brazil? You mentioned Panama, you mentioned Costa Rica. You mentioned all over the U.S., right? You could have settled in Florida for Pete's sake, right? There's a ton of reason to go there.

Lots of people have. You mentioned, I think you mentioned Texas as well. A lot of people have gone there too. I've never gone to Texas, but I know lots of people are going. So I'll give you the short story why Brazil then I'll expend if you want. So this, that unit that I told you on the ocean, right? It's a, it's like a hotel suite, right? Okay, about like I'd say about 400 square feet.

That was 100,000 and that's, that had to be 2005, 2006, okay? Last year, I bought on this in Brazil and you're talking, the city that I'm in is called Nuttal. I stutter a little bit, Sean. So if I do, I apologize. Within a five-minute drive of where I live, we have seven of the most gorgeous beaches you've ever seen in your life. Okay. And Natal, when people ask me, what's the weather light there?

There's only one weather in the city, 35, sunny and hot. There's nothing else, right? Okay. So, and last year, this was the 2005, I could buy that one in Florida for 100 grand. I would assume that today in 2026 that there's no, that's probably close to 7, 800,000. Well, I bought a unit last year, 400 450 square feet across the street from one of the most beautiful beaches you've ever seen okay it looks like something out of Greece like it's one of those white buildings look really nice i bought it for

170 000 riyes that is 38 000 u.s i challenge anybody i tell anybody brazil and i've done my research on buying property Brazil what's happening in this country when it comes to real estate especially in natal because if you go to saint paulo in real real, the two big cities. It's still cheap compared to North America, but it's nowhere as cheap compared to Natal. There's something, and I know what it is. It will take me forever to explain it, but I think that there's about five to seven years for any North American who wants to invest in real estate, that there's no better place than what's going on in Brazil right now. No better place. So give me the long story of Brazil then. Okay. So when I first came in 22,000,

three when I came for a couple of weeks, I looked at Natal. I looked at Fort Alisa, looked at Recifi, but I liked that Natal because I saw that Natal was way underdeveloped compared to the other two cities. So I was like to buy things when they're low, right? Okay. And I don't know, again, you're not going to remember it. In 2005, most of countries like Brazil were they were classified as third world countries, right? Okay. But then in 2000, I think I don't know if it was 2005 around that time, the IMF first coined the phrase bricks, Brazil, Russia, India, China, right? Okay. And they came out with a white paper that I had read at the time that said that they believed that by 2050,

the brick nations were going to be the pot, like all the power would shift from the North American nations to these brick nations. Okay. Well, I've been here now for close to 20 years and now like since in 2019 full time. And it is absolutely clear, plain to see. that that is the case that the the brazil uh shan is self-reliant like it's it's interesting all this stuff that's going on in the world Brazil seems to be outside of all this stuff it's a self-reliant country well i'll give you the best example i could think of in toronto we have a couple of big stars justin beaver was from there shenai and twain was from there but all of them to become successful they had to go to the states they would never be successful in canada right where it's

just a small little country well i learned in 2007 2008 there was a couple of artists in Brazil the best one I could think of is this lady called the Yvetteanzal. She's she's bigger than Beyonce bigger than many of these guys she's never been to the yes she they can do everything within their own country they don't need to go anywhere else you know what I mean okay and Brazilians it's an interesting thing why I think Brazil is such an interesting country is it's been growing for the last 10 years of steady steady growth it's phenomenal okay and Brazilians are

they're spenders. There's a joke in Brazil that if a Brazilian makes $2,000 a month, he spends $10. So they're just people I've over the last couple years, I have lots of clients. Some of them want real estate.

Other of them, others want to expand their companies. I've helped about three or four clients expand their companies to Brazil. And Brazil is an interesting country when it comes to business. Hard to crack. There's a lot of bureaucracy to get your business in here. But if you can crack the bureaucracy it's an amazing amazing I I met this one guy that has a had a

supplement company I think this was back in 2010 2011 and the guy was just making a fortune and I asked him how hard was it he goes across let me tell you something took me about eight nine years to really get established here it was ridiculously hard but he goes I bet most people if you talk about what countries would be good to have the business they would think India China because big big population right he goes Brazil if you can crack it is better than of those nations because of what he said. Indians and Chinese, yes, it's a big, a big population,

but they're kind of alive, have a little bit of a North America mentality. They're savers. They like to say, Brazilians, no, they'll spend. They spend like nobody's business, right? So it's a really good country for that. And over the last, like I said, over the last 10 years, you can clearly see. And now, you know, what started with the brick, who was originally brick,

Brazil, Russia, India, China, the four countries, that was, I think, in 2005, 2006. and then they expanded it to bricks, which they had in South Africa, right? Okay. But if you look over the last two, three years, son, there's about 17, 18 nations now that are part of the BRIC nations, right? Okay. And I don't know if you remember there was a big fight a couple of years ago where it was Putin that actually started this.

He said that the BRIC nations are going to start using their own currencies to do international trade. This is important. Let me bring this up again from my broker days. What I've always understood. The only reason, in my opinion, that the U.S. still stands today is for two reasons, because the U.S. dollar is the trade currency of the world. Okay.

And if you ever, you find these out when you're doing it, there's a in Toronto, I'm sure it's the same in Alberta. There's a lot of immigrants, especially from India, that come to Toronto. They work. And every month, they send money back to their family in India, right? Okay. If you ever do a wire transfer from your bank account in Toronto to any other country, you'll notice that your transfer does not go from Toronto directly to India. It goes from Toronto to what's called an interimary bank in the normally in New York City,

90% of the time it's out in New York City. And then from New York City, it goes to its final place. Well, that interimary bank takes a little fraction, pennies and pennies. But when you're talking billions and billions of dollars trading on a daily basis, cases, US makes a lot of money from that, right? Okay. And secondly, the fact that the US dollar is a trade currency, any country that wants to buy gold or silver or any oil has to first buy U.S. dollars to buy what they want to buy. And I remember, again, I'm horrible with your shot, I apologize, but a couple of years ago, I remember the Fed chair coming out with

a big warning saying that if the U.S. ever loses that status, it's serious trouble for the U.S. And when I say cracks in the system, I think that's what I'm. I'm talking about. Trump has been, you know, fighting between Putin. I remember, I don't know if you remember, there was a time where Trump said, if the bricks think they're going to do that, we're going to tariff them to that. But Putin came out and said, you can do what you want. And not only did he say we're going to keep doing it. They are doing it. But Putin, Russia, developed its own swift. That's what Swift. It's called the Swift system, right, the transfer system. The Russia developed its own swift system that since, I think just after COVID, a lot of the Greek nations,

when they're transferring money are going outside of the U.S. system and using that Russian Swift system. And a lot of these Brit nations right now are trading within their own currencies. This is not good for the U.S. Believe you like this? Forgive me if I'm wrong, Carlos. But after they seized all the Russian assets and booted them from Swift, you know, everybody thought, oh, they're going to be done. And instead, that has not been the case whatsoever. It's, it's, you know, it's had the Streisand effect. It's had a greater or even, yeah, like a greater impact, the opposite way of what they hoped it would do. Now, I didn't realize this.

You said the IMF coined Brick back in 2005, 2006. I could be wrong in the years, but it was, I think it was, it was the IMF that did that. Yeah, they coined that phrase, brick. And so the IMF realized 20 years ago, roughly, give or take the year, that the brick nations were going to take over. Absolutely. Yeah, they realized that. But they said to it, here's the interesting thing, Sean. They said by 2050, we're in 2026.

I think before 2030, their prediction of what was going to happen, I think we'll come to pass already. I don't think it's going to take until 2050. Being here, I could see that. You know, if you want to understand something, watch the money, you know, is probably the easiest, easiest thing to do. I think I'm learning. Yeah, I think I'm learning that more and more as the days go by. Absolutely. International Monetary Fund is like, I think the big one of the world, correct?

Absolutely. Yeah. Was saying 20 years ago, you just watch, the brick nations are going to have. And you're saying roughly at the same time, Brazil is a third world nation. Well, they did classify it as a third world nation. I forget there was one. It started to go really cool. Brazil went really nuts from 2005 to 2008.

A lot of foreigners were coming here and investing big time, like billions and billions. Because one of the major banks, and I can't remember the name, reclassified him as not third world anymore, right? Well, and if you think, Carlos, if you think if the IMF is saying these guys are on the rise, You think they're not swinging a little, you know, you talk about being basically a little fish in a big pond. They're the big fish. And they're going, that country is going to go places in the next 45 years. Of course people are going to flood there.

Yeah, Sean, I have an article. I can email it to you once we're done. And this article is from, I think also 2005, 2006. It's titled, All the Big Boys are Investing in Brazil. It was Sam Zell, who was a big real estate guy. in the States, okay? Bill Gates, all of them were buying land and property in Brazil in 2005 to 2008. Massive, massive, not little, you know, I buy a piece of a thousand square meter beachfront land. These guys were buying major, major Bill Clinton was that all of them

were buying already in 2005. So the great human beings of this planet were buying there, great, right? Absolutely. Great. Right. You're going to have beach front and down the road's going to be Clinton and Gates. Yeah. Exactly. And don't forget, buying beachfront property at the same time telling all of us, you know, global warming, it's going to, all the oceans are going to rise. Rise and everything else, right? Like, I mean, how ridiculous.

Anyway. It's what I said. It's the corruption in the system. Corruption in the system. It's the average Joe, I can spend here the next 10 hours talking about how the average, it's, to me, it's horrible. the average person does not stand a chance in the system. It's not made for you to prosper. It was made.

I think, you know, what happened in my opinion, I think that Canada, especially like the U.S. still, it's going downhill, but Canada, our country, unfortunately, I think it's gone. In my opinion, there's no more salvation for Canada. It was a beautiful country up until about 20 years ago, and then the downslide has just been ridiculous, just ridiculous, in my opinion.

I was just going to say the average Joe doesn't stand a chance, but conversations like this, where I'm like, I'm listening to like, well, you can do whatever you want with Carlos. You can take his thoughts or leave him, whatever. But more and more these conversations are seeing the light of day, which I think does give the average Joe a chance. They just have to act on the information they're getting. And that doesn't mean they have to, you know, race down to Brazil and buy something. I mean, you just, in the time we've talked, the one third rule, I've heard this before, but I don't know if I've ever heard it said so succinctly.

So, you know, like, they're the three. Oh, and wait, you could own precious metal. And it's like there's all these different things. Now, when you talk about Canada, curious, right? You mentioned at five years old, you moved to Toronto, you spent all your life there. Now you've been gone since 2019. I can see the timing of maybe not why you came back. I won't interpret that, but if you want to talk about a giver, you're staring back at Canada now.

I'm curious, so you go, Canada's gone. And there's a huge roaring debate right now where different premiers, I'm going to point out, Eby, calls Albertans traders for wanting an independence referendum in their province, right? Because they're seeing a ton of Albertans, along with a ton of Canadians, might add, are seeing this decline of Canada and going, what is going on? on. You're sitting in Brazil. What do you see from there when you look back at Canada? I see exactly. Sean, even when I, it's interesting, when I was a stockwork, I'm in Toronto, right? I'm a broker in Toronto. Yes. And I never planned this, okay, but your province, not because I'm on your podcast, but Alberta is the best province of Canada, in my opinion. The mindset of the average Albertan, you guys are more, I think you guys are more Americanized

than the rest of Canada. You know what I mean? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if, that's a proper word Americanized, but like more entrepreneurial styles. I was a broker in Toronto. 90% of my clients were from Alberta. And not because I try, like I would call Ontarians, but Ontarians were always such, like, I don't know, they're very ultra conservative while the Albertans were a little bit more business minded. You know what I'm saying?

Right. So in my opinion, when I see that, the best thing you guys could do is succeed from Canada. My opinion. Because I don't like, like I said, like I don't mind going anywhere, you know, if you want me to go. Some people might not like some of my views. I'll tell you that right now. I'm extreme, extreme right wing, extreme. I find Donald Trump too left for me.

So I don't go back to Canada because I find the country, especially Ontario, the province that I'm from, is ridiculously. socialistic. I would, I would, socialistic, I'm being kind when I say that. I think they're bordering on communism in my opinion, right? Okay. And I don't see how anyone can ever prosper and survive in a kind of system like that. It's just not good, right? Yeah. Okay. Then walk me back through Brazil. You mentioned it's clear to see how self-reliant they are. And it's just, I assume you land and you're like, something. something is different here. Now, you've been there for a few years. Yeah. So what is different about Brazil? Because just before you answer, I've been, I've been saying this, I feel like I've been

saying this a lot lately, is the way North American media frames brick countries specifically is a certain way. And then when I sit down and I chat with people who've been to brick nations, I'm like, something doesn't add up here. because they're painting a different picture. It's almost inverse to what I'm told brick nations are. Absolutely. Walk me through Brazil. Okay.

Let me, that's a fantastic question. But let me tell you something first. I think, Sean, there's such, like the world is such misinformation that sometimes it's mind-bomb. I'll give you an example what I mean. I've talked to, you know, you'll ask you a guy. Oh, where'd you go?

I went to time, hey, man, it's dangerous. Like, I did. And there's a couple of YouTube guys that I watch that I like that they travel. You know, these vloggers that travel the world, right? And this one guy, Kurt Katz, I've never heard of them. You ever heard of them? Kurt Katz? Anyways, he specifically, he went to Colombia and he gets in the cab and he goes,

he goes, oh, my subscribers say that this is the most dangerous part of this city. You can't go there. You'll get killed. Take me there. He goes there. And he's walking around. Everyone's friendly, waving high. There's a lot of misinformation about that, right?

Okay? So much so that when I first came to Brazil in 2003, Sean, I swear you, I'm not kidding. A friend of mine was a very good friend of mine, came into my office and goes, Carlson, I heard you're trying to take a trip to Brazil. I said, yeah, he goes, be careful, buddy. I said, what do you mean? Don't wear any rings. Don't wear any.

They will chop your hand off. This is exactly they will chop your hand up to get your ring. I said, seriously? So I did, I remember we landed in Sao Paulo. We were going to stay about four days in San Paulo. And I told my friend Alba. I said, let's go down to the center of the city at 12, 1 o'clock in the morning. I wanted to see.

And I just did my own little research. When you said to me, what was the learning curve, I just always like to research for myself. You know what I mean? Right. So I started talking to a couple of vendors on the street and all that. I said, is it really dangerous here? And the stories I was hearing was not that, oh, yeah, wow, there was a fight here a couple of weeks ago. I'm not talking about a fight.

I'm talking about, like, is it a day, I've been living here 20. So what you're experiencing in real life compared to what you're told? You know what I mean? Right. And that's not just Brazil. No, that's Canada.

It's everywhere. I can walk out, right? I can walk out my front door and go talk to the neighbor and it be completely fine. Yeah. But I'm not a moron. You see the trends of the homelessness, the drug use, the dangers of the road. You just, the cost of living, the cost of going to get groceries.

You also see that too. Exactly. But, Sean, here's the thing. The tables have turned 180 degrees because what the Canadians used to say that, oh man, dangerous, dangerous. I'll tell you right now that in the town and I live here now seven years straight,

I feel a million times safer in Natal than I ever would in any neighborhood in Toronto. Well, did you see the recent story that broke on Toronto? No. seven they've been having these um tow truck wars I don't know oh right seven cops got charged and it goes as high as like helping hitman trying to give them information and I'm probably butchering a little bit folks you should go look up the story but like seven cops are being charged

now like yeah when you talk about Toronto being dangerous yeah and you got surrey bc you got surrey bc that is once the mayor's one is one is one is one is wants a state of emergency. They've had 36 extortion cases or 36 attempts of extortion this year. We're not even 36 days into the year. It's bad. It's bad. Sean, I have, like I said, there's certain things that I'll, when I say, like, just, I do my research as much as I can. And, you know, we can, you can't, you can't watch anyone, you know, the average person, here's the problem with the average person. Like, although they are waking up, right? But in my opinion, they're waking up a little bit too slow because I think that things are happening

so quick. But the average guy, what does he do? He goes to work. He gets up in the morning. He goes to work. He comes home. He wants to have dinner. And he turns on the TV. And he turns on either CNN. And unfortunately, if you're watching CNN, I'll even say Fox News is a little bit better. But if you're watching CNN, Channel 24, all you're getting is lies. Just in my opinion, all lies. You know what I mean? Right? So if you lost me because I saw a little thing on the phone. Have you know so why was I going to why was this saying that well I can I can safely say this audience isn't watching CNN if they are in and have a laugh oh here's what I wanted to say Sean I have no way of proving this but I think I'm right Toronto okay uh over the last seven

eight years and it was a really good friend of mine that worked for the transit commission says that on a weekly basis between three the five people are pushed onto the train tracks that it doesn't into the news. They actively keep those stories out of news. Toronto is a dangerous, dangerous city at this point in time, dangerous city. And my kids live there. So I always tell my son, when you're on the subway, keep your back to the wall. You know what I mean? So the interesting thing is we've got, we've come full circle. Where are they used to say, my God, don't go to Brazil. They'll chop off your hands. That's almost truer now in Toronto than it is here. You know what I'm saying? Like it's a crazy It's a crazy situation.

But yeah, so I'll let you ask the question. We'll go where you want to go. Well, I'm going to go back to Brazil. Well, you mentioned that it's clear to see. It's self-reliant. It's like, I don't know, you've been living there now. It's going on seven years or maybe over seven years. Yeah.

You know, I guess I just like, so what is it about Natal? Okay. So what's, like I said, if you told me, because I'm interested in Brazil, I have a company, I want to expand my product into Brazil, I would not say come to Natal. I'd say go to Sao Paulo, Rio. Those are the three, like,

Sao Paulo is 45 million people. It's the size of Canada, right? Okay. Natal, the city that I'm in, it's about 900,000 people. It's a small little city, right? Okay. But there's, there's something about Natal that the price is it, well, it's two things.

The price, John, like I still, I, well, I think I told you. Last year, I'll give you that story, because it's important. Even though I live here, my mind is still there. I watch Canadian news. I watch North America. I don't really track Brazilian news, right? Okay?

And I think I told you this one. We were on the phone the last time. This was about just after COVID, just after lockdowns. I saw a story and the story was geared to Detroit City. It said that once the lockdowns were lifted in Detroit, about 75% of the businesses, because you know, every city is like that. You got the office buildings,

but the main floor is always like either a coffee. It's all retail, right? Okay. And 75% of the businesses in Detroit never went back. They went belly up. Okay. So the article went on to say that office spaces were like 50% empty and the office buildings, the prices were coming down like 45, 50% right. Okay. So I've seen a story like that. The first thing I do because like I said, my mindset is still Toronto. I've been in Toronto 50 odd years, right? Okay. I called an agent or real estate agent that I knew in Toronto. I said, Joyce, is the same thing like find out if you. the same thing happened in Toronto after the lockdowns. And it did. Not to the extent that it happened. Detroit, like I said, 75% of the businesses didn't come back. And the prices went down about 50%. Right. Okay. In Toronto, the estimates, I think we're about 35% of the businesses never came back. And office buildings came down about 30, 35% as well. Right. So once I knew that, then I called an agent here in Natal. And I said, I want you to take me to the downtown core, the business sector. And I want to see what happened there. And sure enough, Sean, I found that it was almost as bad as Detroit.

The office suite, you know, like, you know, you got an office building and you can buy it like people, individuals. I bought originally one back, just after the lockdowns were there. It's 25 square meters, which is 250 square feet. Okay. I bought this thing for 50,000 reiyes. You're talking $9,500 U.S. dollars for an office suite. I joke around with some of my friends in Toronto. I was on the phone with a guy a couple of days ago because I've now bought four. I own four of these things now. Right. And I said, what would you pay for an office suite? 250 square feet in Toronto? He goes, well, it's got to be at least four or five hundred thousand. What if I told you, I could buy

for 10 grand. He goes, no, impossible. And I showed him. You couldn't believe it. But what happened is because that after the, they lifted, because they had the lockdowns there for about eight months as well. When they lifted it, when I went and saw it, that downtown court was destroyed, like everything boarded up and all that. But those units, the one that I bought for 50,000 prior to COVID, was selling for about 130 to 150, right? So when I saw, okay, I can pick it up for, you know, less than half the price. And I could slowly see, like I went, I went, when you asked me, the learning, my attitude is I like to do my own research. I went down there with the agent on a weekday, but before I bought it, I told my wife, let's go there on the weekend, because they have lots of shops, right?

And when I went there on the weekend, I saw the, like, it was, I wouldn't say hustle and bustle, but there was still traffic there, you know what I mean? And I started, I went to the, a lot of the shop owners, about 10 of them, and said, like, what are you guys seeing here? Do you say, is it, well, slowly, slowly, we're starting to see the growth, right? So I thought, okay, so I bought my first one about two, two, two, three years ago, bought a second one on a tax auction, which is bigger about double the size, about 500 square feet. I paid 60,000 Reyes, which is about 11,000.

And now last year in November, December, I just bought a third one. When I say four, because my wife bought one right next to one that I have. So I let her buy one for herself. But these things, so, Sean, I'll give you the numbers. 50,000 rei's, 10,000 U.S. I rent that thing out for 1100 reyes a month. I pay 100 rei's to the agent to manage it for me, the real estate company, the real estate company. So it leaves me with 1,000.

And the maintenance fee is 300. So I net 700, right? Okay. So if you do the math, 700 times 12, you're talking $8,400 a year on something that costs 50 grand. You're talking about 12, 13 percent, right? Am I right on my math there around there? Yeah. I don't know about Alberta, but you can't get that in Toronto.

Like in Toronto, if you're a landlord, you're lucky if you're eking out 3, 4% a year. You know what I'm saying? Right. And that unit that I bought for $50,000, that first one, last year, had an office. offer of 70. I say absolutely not. I'll sell that unit this year towards the end of this year, I think for 85 to 90 because I can clearly see now that downtown core, I own three now, it's starting to come up. But when you say with Brazil, it's still like I have all the places in the world for real estate, there's something unique about Natal because it is literally

impossible to find a, so I have a client of mine that started buying a couple of things with me here and he's from Waterloo. And about a year and a half ago, he calls me up. He says, Carlos, what did I do with you there? I said, Martin, you got to be in for about $60,000 or dollars now. He goes, okay, my wife and I sold the property that we have in Waterloo. We want to come down like we're thinking of getting bigger into Brazil, but we actually want to see it if we're going to do that.

I said, oh, come on down. Unfortunately, they have a family business, so only him and the son came down, right? The wife had to stay behind. But they were here for 10 days. Love what he saw, opened up a company. He's now invested about 250,000 Canadian, but me and him in, so I'll give you this. This was October of 2024. We bought a beachfront home.

It's literally, again, not on the ocean, but across the street from the ocean, okay? Five bedroom, beautiful veranda on the top overlooking, you can see the ocean, about 4,500 square feet. Okay. And our plan was to buy it and rent that out on Airbnb, right? Okay. We bought that house, Sean, for 400,000. thousand Riyas, which is about 90,000 US. And when you ask me why Brazil, I know I still keep my feelers out of this.

There's no country in the world. I challenge anybody. There's no country in the world where you can buy a beach front house for $90,000. It doesn't exist anywhere. This is only unique to Natal. And there's a couple more factors why that is. I think it was any investor that wants to invest overseas. one thing that you have to keep the context of is the exchange rates because that changes all the time, right?

Okay. And what happened in Brazil right now, if I do my math, 20 years that I've been coming to Brazil from 2003, actually more than 20 years, but let's say 20 years, obviously the exchange rate changes back and forth, but on average, I would have to say that one Canadian dollar was 2.230, 2.30. That was the norm. almost one for two, right? Okay. Post-COVID, one Canadian dollar has been since COVID, 450. One American dollar is almost six re-eyes. So you're getting such a bang on your dollar. It's unbelievable. And I know 100% that is not going to last. I have my phone, I have that app, which is like a currency converter. And my iPhone says, you're addicted. Like I check that thing 15 times a day. And every time the re-eye starts to go up, I start to sweat because I'd like the re-eye. Like, I'd love to see the re-I'd be like one Canadian dollar be 10 re-eyes. For me, that would be

amazing. You know what I mean? Right. But I don't, I think this one to four, I think that's a gift that we've had. And it's not going to be like that forever. Like that, that, that rei is going to start to go up in value. So I tell a lot of my clients, if you want to invest in Brazil right now, North American, three things. You're buying stuff ridiculously cheap that you can't any kind of a you're getting if you want to rent you're getting that house by the way Sean so i'll give you the number so we bought that house for 400,000 re-is we rented it we bought it in october of 24 so we started renting it out in november because we did a one month of little renovations right okay from november 2024 to november of last year we grossed income on that thing was 57000

re-is we netted about 37,000 so still a little bit under 10% right okay but that was last year. I can tell already this year because we're into a already February at the carnival coming up next week, which is just we rented that that house for five days, five days, 20,000 re-ights, which in Canadian dollars about five thousand bucks, right, for five days, right? This year will gross in that house, in my opinion, between 85 to 90,000 and we'll net about 55 to 60, which will be over 10%. But what we bought for 400,000, same thing. I have agents bugging me that they'll buy it from us for five. 50 and I call my buddy. I said, do you want it? He goes, uh-uh, that house in less than two years,

we'll sell it for close to 8, 50, 900. So you got that. So you got the really cheap. The dollar, you're getting such a bang on the dollar, okay? And rental income. So that house is generating us. The last year it generates is about 10%. This year will generate about, I'd say about 15. My wife and I have one that we've had for about five, six years that generates is 25% of your rental income. Undoable in Ontario. I don't know about Alberta, but I'm telling you, absolutely undoable in Ontario does not exist these kind of returns, right? Okay? So I tell clients, if you are going to put $100,000 in Brazil today, three things are going to happen.

You're going to buy a piece of property that's going to increase in value, in my opinion, 10 to 15% every year. If you rent it, you're going to get about 10 to 15% on it. And when you sell it, if I'm right, if you buy it when the dollar is one to four, and when you sell it, it goes back to the norm that was 20 years, one to two, you're going to make a killing just on the currency conversion when you take your money back. You know what I'm saying? Right. So that's why Brazil's because it's just there's like what's happened,

the dynamics of what's happening in the country just seen. And that's why I'm here. I'm not looking anywhere else anymore. I'm just, I'm doing, I have a post-COVID, Sean. I have, and I bought it with what I decided to do. Sometimes I think a little bit weird. It's crazy. Like I said, I'm not independently wealthy.

So after COVID, when the lockdown started, stopped and ended, I'm sitting here, my wife says, so what do you plan to do? I said, look, I had one condo in downtown. I had two, sorry, one I lived in, and one that I rented out. And I said, I'd like to buy stuff, but, you know, I don't have any money.

I'd have to sell this. So I was talking to a buddy mine in Toronto. I said, look, Dave, this condo I had, condo, I had real estate, we have remax here, right? So I had remax go out. They appraised the condo at 365,000 re-eis. Right. So I said to this guy, said, I want to keep 50%. I don't want to sell it, right? But I don't, but I, if I'm going to sell, I'd sell part of it, I'll sell 50% of it, and I'll keep 50%. So my thought was that I'd sell 50% to clients, either one guy at 50% or like five guys at 10%. Right. Okay. So did the math, 365,000, every 10%,

was a bit 36,000 Reyes, which is about like, I think around like six, seven thousand U.S. or something like that, right? Okay. I sold 50% of that thing out in less than two weeks. And I remember telling my wife, I think they can find some clients that would probably, it might take me six, seven months, but they loved it, right? So when I, so what I did, Sean, think about it. I took out about 160,000, right?

I sold half of it, right? And then, so now I only owned 50%. That 150,000 that I took out, I bought a unit. There's not on the beach or anything, but I paid $100,000 re-is for this unit, rented it out on Airbnb. And I didn't need to rent a renovator or anything. It was all fine. But bought it for $100,000.

Rented it out on Airbnb for about eight, nine months and sold it nine months later for $165. Right. Okay. So I now own in the towel about eight, nine units, but I own 50% in clients of mine that we do these little joint ventures together on the other. Well, I shouldn't say that I have two, two properties. If I simplified it. on this end, you're just saying the opportunity is just, it's just glaringly obvious. Yeah. Every client that comes down, every client that comes down when they leave on the plane,

they say, we understand what you're saying. You can see it. It's clear to see. Question for you, because you've been living there when, when some of this has gone down, boulson arrows, right? Like one of the things that, you know, Americans see, North American see, is they saw boulson arrow. And they saw like, election. I don't know, I don't know. You can walk, you're sitting there. Like, was it as bad as what, uh, no, try again.

Yeah, you're back now. Yep. Okay. Okay. So, so. Bolson arrow. Yes. Let me tell you something.

Carbon copy. Do you remember when Trump, I think was 2016, when Trump was running against Hillary, you, you'd see a Trump rally. thousands and thousands of people he'll rerally you're lucky if you get two 300 people yes meanwhile meanwhile uh well sure sorry i shouldn't say that at the time trump did win let's go back to joe bide same thing right trump a million a thousand thousand people joe biden a couple of hundred joe biden wins right okay in john again my opinion i know that that election was stolen Donald Trump never lost that election.

That election was stolen. And the exact same thing with Bolsonaro. When Bolsonaro came, he came to Natal a couple of times. It was thousands of pound, thousands of people. Lula, you're lucky if you can pack 40, 50 people out of Lula rally, Lula won. These elections were stolen. And what they did with both is such a carbon copy. The January 6th thing with Trump is exactly what they're there.

You know, put Bolsonaro in jail. The poor guy still house arrest. But this is all part of what I'm saying that in my opinion, Sean, the North American Empire, if we want to call it it. It's seen its last days. Every empire falls, right? The Roman Empire fell, the Greek Empire fell, and the North American Empire is falling. This is my personal opinion. And this is part of the reason that I don't want to go back anyway.

There's nothing. I have my kids there and I'm trying to bug them to come here. But, you know, they have their lives there. But there's nothing for me there. When you talk about Brazil, though, and that there's carbon copy, what are your, like, you live there. You're watching this play out and you're like, well, this just happened in the States. Doesn't that make you a bit nervous of the direction of Brazil's heading? No, here's what's interesting.

I love the questions because, so we have Lula's absolutely left-wing government, right? Okay. But it doesn't affect the data. Let's understand. Like Brazil, where is in Canada? when it's a leftist government, like when Trudeau is in power and now Carney, which I want to go there. Oh, please do.

Please do. But regardless, let's stick on Brazil for a second. You can feel the oppression when you're there. Like I told you, Sean, I'm not exaggerated by any means. Between five to seven calls a week from friends, colleagues, clients, like sometimes crying and say, we don't know what to do anymore. Like businesses are shutting down left and right, right? Okay. So in Brazil, it's an interesting thing because he's a leftist government, but Brazil is a million times more democratic than Canada is.

Like, so I don't want, I'm going to say because, so I always find the deposit when Lula, so Sean, I'll give you an example, in 2015 till 2018, Bolsonaro, well, Bolsonaro got in 2018, but 2015, Lula was the president at that time, right? Okay, and buddies of mine came to me and said, Carlos, there's this thing called Casa Poplaris. The government had a program called Mia Casa, Mia Vida, my house, my life, right? What they did, Canada did the same thing many years ago. They would allow, if it was a first-time Brazilian homebuyer, okay, the government would finance 100% of that person's home, right? Okay. So a lot of builders were building houses, like, you know, five, 600 homes. I know two or three guys that became multi-millionaires.

And they came to me a couple of my friends and said, why don't you do that? So like I said, I'm small time. So I started, I built originally four homes, right? And I'll give you the numbers, but I'll stick in re-eyes. At the time, a lot, which had to be minimum 200 square meters to be what's called a buildable lot, right, with 200 square meters, 2,000 square feet. But let me stick in re-eyes.

200 square meter lot, I'd buy that a lot for 20,000 re-eyes. I'd build a home on it that's about 60,000. square meters, right, 600 square feet. I build that home for about 35,000. So I'm in for 20 on the lot, 35, so 55. And it's about 5,000 Rai's for all the documentation, like building permits and all that, right? Okay. So 60,000 reyes. Okay. When I, when I would, when I would buy that land and go to the city to get my building permit, I would tell the city that I'm, I want to put it under the Mia Casamia Vita project, right? Okay. They gave you this little lawn sign that you could put on your lawn. And those four homes that I built, Sean, as the foundations are being put down, I'd get on a

weekly basis, two, sometimes three families coming to me and say, look, we like this area. Here's our little paperwork. We've been approved already by the cash-up, which is their national, they have Bank of Brazil and cash-it. So we'd like to buy your home. So what I would do is, I'd just tell, okay, give me a 500 re-dip deposit just so I know that you're serious. I have to complete the home. I had to finish the home. Once that home was complete, I would take that family to the cash economica, they'd have to give their documentation. I'd have to get my documentation. I would sell that home for about $80,000 to $90,000, what I paid $60.

I was making 40% of it. It was like taking candy from a baby, right? Okay. So that project, and it was Lula that said Lula was loved because of that project, right? Okay. It's a socialist program, right? Okay. So I built four for myself.

And a year later, some friends of mine, some investors came down from Toronto. we ended up building total, total about 150 homes, right, that we did together. And we did okay. 2018 rolls around, Bolsonaro gets elected, right? Okay. The program was working under Bolsonaro, but it's a social, it's a leftist program, right? Okay. So I didn't build anything from 2018 till.

And then interesting enough, in 2024, buddy of mine calls me up and says, are you building Kasy Papuilaras? And I'm a kind of guy like, I've done that, been there, done that. I said, oh, I did that in 2015. I said, you're building casual. He goes, buddy, Lula's back in power. I said, seriously, I don't even think of it. So in 2020, Sean, I built three homes again.

Because I'm still like that I'm always like like, like a lot of people might think, oh, this guy's over the world. I'm conservative beyond belief. Like, believe me. So I always like to dip my foot in the water. So I only built three homes because the same thing. I did it back in 2015. It's 10 years later.

So I wanted to make sure that everything was still the sense. And sure enough, build the homes, sold them all three, walked away with about 38 to 40%. This year we're building 20 because Lula's still in power, right? Okay. But the dynamics is that Lula's in power, leftist like crazy, but he's still, like the country's still right wing. It's still like the democracy works the same. Whether it's a left way.

I mean, well, I shouldn't say the same because like I said, that this program is beneficial under a leftist government. You know what I'm saying? Right? But day to day, shot, I, look, I hear things. And I again, you know, I've come to, we come to a point in our life, we don't know what's real, what's not real.

I saw, I saw a thing on YouTube that if it is real, and you could confirm, because it was in your province, that's a teenager was on the streets preaching the Bible and he got arrested because of that. Did you hear that? Hmm, in Alberta? In Alberta. That was a couple of months back.

Folks, you're going to text me if that's true. And I will confirm or not. I don't recall a teenager, but there have been, I don't know what to say on that one. Okay. Well, Sean, I can like, you know, like I said, even though I'm here, I still, Canada at this point, and we talked about this in our car. I'm a Christian, okay? I believe in God. I believe in Jesus Christ.

He's my Lord and Savior. No one's ever going to. And Canada, when I'm going to. When I say I don't see that impression is in Canada, I watch some of those YouTube like these street preachers. I have so much, what's the one I'm looking for? I'm losing my English. Respect for these street preachers because some videos, I've seen videos of preachers in Toronto

and just for saying the word Jesus Christ, they get spit on. Like it's oppressive. It is oppressive. like our country is oppressive Christians. There's going to be a time, in my opinion, where we are going to be, well, I think they're already being persecuted there, okay? In Brazil, you don't have that. John, I've been, for 70 years that I've been here, believe me, I, everyone that I come

across, I ask, do you believe in God? I think in the seven, eight years that I've been here, one person has told me they don't believe in God. It's not the same in Toronto. Ask 10 people in Toronto. I've told my friends, testify. I like testing, right? In Toronto, at this point in time, I don't think I'm exaggerating.

If you ask 10 people if they believe in God, seven of them are going to say no. Two of them are probably going to spit in your face. And one might say yes. That's oppressive nation in my opinion. Well, I could. Yeah. Well, I can, I can say, okay, Alberta podcaster, right? Right.

And it was only how many years ago now, folks. It was after the Freedom Convoy. So I'm going to say 2022. So four years. ago, first time I ever brought up the conversation of God on the podcast, and I felt pretty awkward doing it. And what you're telling me about Brazil is nobody would feel awkward about talking about God. It's the opposite. It's the opposite. So here, whether or not a kid has been arrested on the street for it, I already know it's more oppressive day by day. I already know by talking about God

on the podcast, Jesus Christ specifically. That is a wild. That is a wild. That is a wild thing. I interviewed Preston Manning. Manning, how many years ago is that now? Maybe two. And he talked about his dad having the show where he, every Sunday morning as Premier of Alberta, he'd go on and have his morning show on the radio where he, it was his, I don't know, what do I call it?

Sermon, something like along that lines. And that's how it was, you know, back in what, the 70s? And you fast forward 50 years. and, you know, no premieres even remotely close to that. And I was like, huh, that's funny. I see a revival in something like that. I see people turning to Jesus all the time in saying that. It's still an uncomfortable topic in your day-to-day life.

Full stop. I just think that's the feeling here in Canada. It doesn't mean my audience is the same way. They've become very supportive of it. But it's been an interesting journey. And when you point out Brazil, you're like, no, no, no, it's like 90. some percent already believe in God. Oh, yeah.

It's a Christian nation. Although, I'll, yeah, but we say Canada is a Christian nation. No, no, no, no, no. Sean, let me give you an interesting statistic. Like, if we ever want to talk about religion, I could, like I told you, I'll spend 10 hours talking about religion is my favorite topic. But when I, when I use the, when I say the empire, North American Empire, the crack showing that I saw this statistic a couple of months ago blew my mind.

You know, these mathematicians, statisticians do charts and all that, right? Okay. And they had a thing that from 19, I think it was 1950, all the way until 1963. There's certain things like marriages, having kids, being able to buy a house. All these variables were all on the rise up until 1963. After 1963, there was about 50 variables that they used, right? Divorce and all that, mothers, you know, having children without it. They all started going downhill.

Guess what happened in 1963? That's when they banned the Bible from schools and from the courts. You know, remember when you used to go to, you used to go to, well, you're young. But if you went to court, you used to put your hand on the Bible. Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth will help you God? They don't do that anymore in the States and Canada. The Bible's been taken out of the courts. The Bible's been taken out of the school.

So forgive me. You said they're on the downslide. They're on the increase. You're talking about divorces. It's on the increase. Yeah, all these variables are going down like bad. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Right. Gotcha. Yeah. And just saw when I repress it, a lot of things that I remember was in Alberta. You talked about that convoy. How many, I know three or four people personally that donated to that convoy. their bank accounts were frozen for six, seven months.

I mean, this is an oppressive country. This is ridiculous. You know what I mean? And there was a, I don't know if you know about this one. I think it was in Alberta as well. This pastor during the whole COVID thing refused to close his church as a Polish guy. He went to prison four or five times. Yes.

Do you ever hear about that guy? I've interviewed the pastors that stood up during COVID. Yeah. Okay, there you go. I like that guy. I think that guy's phenomenal. And to put a guy like that in prison, that's really, there's something wrong with our country. That's not right. That is not right.

Yeah, well, I mean, in the high times of COVID or the low times, you had, you know, Ocean Wiseblatt was the one that got arrested on an outdoor pond and they sprinkled gravel on the outdoor ponds. They put tape on the outdoor playground. Nobody's going to do this. And, you know, at the time, you know, full stop, I say this all the time. I was trying to understand where the government has come from. I'm like, well, maybe there's something there, you know. And now you fast forward five or six years and I am just not the same guy, right? Like it's just you look at it.

And, you know, it's always interesting to talk to somebody outside of it. Because, you know, yeah, maybe I'm going. Maybe I'm becoming a wackadoodle. Maybe I'm just, I've lost my mind. And then you sit and talk to Carlos and you're like, or maybe our country is just using its mind. I'll just say one more thing. An insane times.

How old are you? I turn 40 here in May. Yeah. So I'm 61. I think maybe it's a thing. Once you get a certain age, you don't care anymore. I don't have to be popular anymore, right?

Okay. But I'll just, I'll say, I'll say this, which is for me, it's important. My son sometimes asked, why don't you come back to Canada?

You can still do your business. I said, just, I'm, like I saw, I'm extreme right wing, extreme. There's no present to me that I've ever seen that to me with the I believe in God country and all that.

I like when I was growing up, we used to say the Lord's Prayer every day in school. I believe in that. You know what I mean? I believe in a father and mother raising their kids and everything else. And in Brazil, what I love about Brazil, abortion is illegal, right? Okay. So I know the divorce, again, a couple of hot topics. We can debate.

It's okay to have a debate that what if a girl is raped? Everyone's like, okay, so that's a debatable. situation, right? But Canada has come to the point that it's so pro-abortioned. They actually encourage it. And I don't know if you know or not, Sean. I say this.

People challenge me on it. But Canada, in most cases, a woman can have an abortion, what they call late-term abortions. I don't know if you ever heard of that thing, right? Yes, I have. Up to nine months. And in certain circumstances,

I've heard stories, which I believe to be true, that the child can be born. and they'll abort that child if that woman wants. Let me tell you something. This is not, this is, this is biblical. This is satanic, in my opinion, right? And when a country does that, if you look at all empires, every empire, I've studied these,

the Roman, the Greek empire, they all start normally with this belief in God. In God we trust, under God, blah, blah, blah. And then God blesses them and gives them a lot of power, and they become powerful. And when they become powerful, the first thing they do is cast out God. we did this. God, and as soon as they do that, that empire falls. And North America is at that stage.

You know, Billy Graham, I think I told you this in a lot. Love a line that Billy Graham said. He goes, if God doesn't judge the U.S. He's going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah. U.S. aborts two million kids a year. It's not, that's not nice. That is not nice. You know what I mean?

So I'm totally told us. I should say when, when I, John, I sometimes, and like I said, I get it. I know public figures. I don't have to do anything. Sometimes it's a nice reading, but I know public figures, when they have to, you know, argue against,

they have to skirt around the issue, right? Okay. Why can someone say, yeah, I'm against abortion? I don't, I'm against abortion. And when I say I'm far right wing, I'm against abortion. Even if my daughter was raped,

I'd force her to have that child. I'm against abortion. I'm not scared to say it. Well, I'll tell you what. So, so new guy watching politics, right, and talking about myself. And the Conservative Party, the federal conservative party that Pierre Poliev leads, they had their debate.

And I wasn't a guy who watched debates or whatever. I watched one, okay? I'm sitting there and I'm watching. They got, I forget, was it six guys and Leslie Lewis? One woman and the rest are met. It doesn't matter the numbers. And they asked about abortion. And they skirt.

It was a yes or no question. Are you forwarded or against it? Pro life or pro choice? I think it was how they put it. All the men, pro choice. Lesle-Lewis, pro-life. And I'm like, oh, my God, just ask her why. Just ask her why.

I'm curious. I don't even know where I sit on the entire thing back then. And they just move on because they had to check a box. Right. And I'm like, this sucks so much. You have a leader who is pro-life. Let's ask her why. She's a woman.

The rest are men. The obvious question is why? Right. Why is it that you're the woman and all the men can't say that? And so we live in this, you know, um, construct they've built here in Canada of what conservative is and what topics are so hot you can't touch it. It's funny. I've shut down.

You know, I just like seeing people squirm, I think, at this point, Carlos. You know, I don't know if I'm a good dinner guest or not because, you know, I've done it multiple times now where abortion comes up and now people look at me, I don't even want to know your thoughts. I'm like, I haven't even said anything. What do you mean? No, we're not talking about this. I'm like, well, that's a problem right there, isn't it? There's hot topics. There's hot topics. But like I said, John, it's, it's, it's a, it's a spiritual thing. It is a spiritual thing. There's a Canada, especially can't, like I, I, I, I, I bash Canada, bitch. It's always such a can. But it is, it's a bad country. It's like the, the, the, the, the, the,

energy there in my own so except for your province your province is you got good people in your province but well i can tell you this carlos the people listen this show are from all across canada and i might add you know i i was saying this the other day um to somebody who'd asked my audience has grown in the united states okay that makes sense ireland that i'm still a little bit scratching my head on and a bunch of other countries but those three are the three big ones now. So when we talk about Canadians and a listener pointed out to me, the listeners of the show are salt to the earth, great people. And when you're talking about Canada, you're talking about the institutions and the things government and my co-host on Fridays who points out the fact

those morons keep electing the other morons who keep pushing all these stupidity. You're like, yeah, yeah, well, in fairness, right? So, yeah, Canada is in a tough situation right now. It just And when the going gets tough, the tough get going. And I think, you know, a ton of the audience listening to us are movers and shakers and trying to do better. But they hear things going on in Brazil and they go or elsewhere. And they're like, huh, I kind of want to go see that. I kind of want to feel it. Because I've interviewed, you know, now that I'm starting to think about it, you know, I've interviewed people all over the place.

Panama is where McKell Thorpe is. You're in Brazil. I just had Pat Stebman, who was one of the. J6 guys who went to jail for a year. He's in Poland with his family. And he talks about how it's just different. There's just this field. Like, what is that?

What is that? Yeah. I kind of want to go see it myself. Well, that poor guy, these J6 guys in jail for nothing. My God. Unbelievable. It's horrible. The same thing here, Sean.

There's an, I think, 89-year-old lady from that thing here that, that she's been in prison. Up until today, she's in prison. It's just crazy. It's such injustice that it's unbelievable. And I think the injustice, in my opinion, the injustice is because you have to be able to call things out. Like these policy. And I get it. Like I said, I get it. If I was 35 years old and I'm a politician, you want to. So you have to skirt. You can't say, why can't someone say, I'm against this, I'm for that? Like, you're hated because you tell your opinions. You know what I mean? It makes no sense to me. Just makes no sense.

And at 61, I don't have to. I say my opinions. Well, I mean, here in Canada, I mean, we have state media. I don't know more to call it than that, right? It's funded directly from the government. So when they want a certain narrative put out and you go against the narrative, they have the attack dogs and off they go. And so you ran through the absolute gauntlet of people attacking you.

And then the pressure builds. And, you know, I think, you know, in the middle of COVID, we watched every premier bow down to the COVID science. Absolutely. You fast forward and there, you know, you have Ebby calling Albertans who want a question asked, traitors, traitorous. And Daniel Smith comes out and says, listen, we're not going to use that type of language with close to a million Albertans,

maybe more, who want a better arrangement in Canada. That is a shift in the last five. well for sure six years since COVID because in COVID I mean they came out and called everybody anti-vaxers I mean it's they were talking about the horse dewormers with Ivermectin we just pointed out on the mashup folks that Nahed Njian Njeeh Denchie the official opposition

to Daniel Smith is using hyvermectin for a problem with his eyes it's like so everybody's making fun of him because he's taking a horse to warmer right like I mean it's just a crazy world before I lay you out of here I had one other question Sure. You're talking about all these countries and you're talking about, I haven't found a politician that God is the top.

Right. What are your thoughts on El Salvador and Buckele? Do you have any? Listen, El Salvador, you know that. It was one of the, it was the most dangerous places in the Western Hemisphere and now it's safer than Canada. Exactly, right? In two years or three years, like I did that, right?

right okay but how did he do that john being tough right he does he like people were i mean i remember the all the left say look what he's a tyrant he's a dictator and he said you call me what you want but he cleaned up his country when i actually saw and and carlos i might add in the other thing that my ears pick up when i listen to him is he talks about god an awful lot god exactly so uh i'll just say that i said that the no no president is right winged enough for me that guy gets close for me. Carlos, if anyone wanted to, I don't know if you're looking for clients or you deal with more people or you're fine, if they wanted to get in touch with you or find anything about

you, would you point them in a direction? Sure. They can go on my website, which is Brazilbeachresorts.com, right? Okay. Or they can email me at info at Brazilbeachresorts.com. I'm always, I will always respond back to everyone that, uh, that, uh, message you. me. Carlos,

appreciate you doing this. And, well, it has been dull. I'm like, we could go, I'm like, we could go on and on and on.

And maybe we should hear at a later date. Either way, but thanks, thanks for doing this. God bless. Thank you.