Shaun Newman Podcast - Ep. #105 - Mikey Dubz

Episode Date: August 17, 2020

DJ, ultra marathon runner & engineer we get into what makes him tick, why he runs so much & what it is about running that has him up every day rain or shine to run. Oh and did I mention he has a clothing line Piece of Love where all proceeds go to charity, he's DJ all across Canada and worked with Major Lazer, T.I. & Steve Aoki. Mikey is one interesting cat.  Let me know what you think     Text me! 587-217-8500

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Hey, it's Ron McLean, Hockey Night in Canada and Rogers' hometown hockey, and welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. Hey, folks, welcome to the podcast. I have Mikey Dub sitting beside me. We're going to try and read off a little bit of our sponsors. We'll see how this goes. We'll see if he messes it up or probably more likely I mess it up. So first, let's get to Lauren and Art. Lauren at Art, see I've already screwed it up.

There we go. Lauren at Art and soul. She's a passionate hardworking lady who's extremely positive. She promises she won't disappoint you. I promise she won't disappoint me. Has she ever disappointed you, Mikey? I know she does some things for runners. She's got a ton of medals.

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And she probably would have spit back. Actually, I do this, this, this, this, this. Because she says the stories go on and on, and she remembers every piece that she lays her hands on. Crafts. Isn't that crazy? Love it. Yeah.

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Dude, I looked all, I run a lot, and I found it. First day, didn't get a hat, but I found it. Did you take a picture? No, well, yeah, while running with my eyes. I got a couple more coming right now. I'm dabbling. I'm actually going to, I got like eight new hats coming out. I'm trying to find the right one. So when I find it, I can order a bulk load and be like, this is it.

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Originally from Lloyd Minster, he made a name for himself while working in clubs all around Canada. He got to work with talented artists such as Major Laser, Ti, and Stevie Oakey. He has a clothing line, piece of love, where all profits go to charity. He had massive knee surgery a couple years ago, and since has fell in love with running. He had a goal in 2019 of running 2,000 kilometers for the year. Since then, he just completed a backyard ultramarathon where he ran over 120 kilometers in less than a day.

He's got his own podcast, Where Is the Love? and is an enigma, to say the least. So sit back, buckle up. Here we go. Yo, what's going on? You're with your boy, Mikey Doves, and you're listening to the one, the only, majestic Sean Newman podcast.

Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. Tonight I'm joined by, he doesn't want me to use his real name. He doesn't want me to break his covers. All right, I'm cool with that. Mike, Mikey Dobs. I was saying to you before we started this, that you were probably the first guest

I want to say even going back to like Bill Cavarley like guest number like three and even then I had like jot notes of like a couple of things I was pretty nervous or whatever but for those who haven't listened they can hear you on

where's the love you got a podcast and I was guest number 10 I think you're 13 13? I think I broke 10 oh okay 13 I'll take 13. Wow, I don't know if it's unlucky.

Do you know what number of this one is? 105. And actually, you're good at keeping track of it. And actually it's kind of like 105.5. Because I started switching up the, started doing the archive once. But I didn't want to put them in,

I wanted to kind of separate them. So I called them SMP archives number one. So there's actually two 104s, if you will. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah. So in the list, it shows up as one. I don't know. Dude, I like me in the hafer.

That's right. So yeah, you're 105. 105. 0.5 potentially. You should have probably been like 96 or 97, but for the life of us, we couldn't seem to make it work. But anyways,

going back to it, you, sir, are one of the guys that, uh, when I went on your podcast, I told you on there. And people should probably pause this and go listen to that and then come back.

Because you'll hear the beginning of this, but I literally didn't do any homework because I always do homework. And coming in today, I was like, I should I call a couple people? Should I, like, Like, nah, there's this mystery around Mikey Dubs, right? You won't even tell me his last name, folks, right?

I couldn't tell the people where we interviewed because it was the back cave and we're not allowed to release the location. So I'm, screw it. We're going to go with a little mystery tonight. Yeah, I like it. It's funner. I tell you what, yeah, I'm excited. I have no idea what's coming at me tonight.

I mean, I got an idea, but I got whatever. We got everything. That's cool. We got stories. I had to actually, like I said, I missed my run in the morning. I run every day. So today I missed my run, so I had to burn one quick little jaunt. What's a little jaunt?

16 clicks real fast to get here. So now I'm like rolling on that runner's high. This whole cast is going to be just spinning. You realize for most people 16K is not a short jaunt, let alone 1K being a short jaunt. So I actually was talking to my wife on my way over here. And she's just like, oh, so how was the, because she knew I was. to go for a quick run and she she finds it kind of comical at this point like oh how far did you get it was like 16.3 and she goes yeah just a real quick run around the block stretch stretch your legs out

hon yeah yeah so it's uh yeah it's it's something weird and i obviously not everyone's gonna do it because it's crazy and potentially stupid at the same time but it uh yeah no i love running dude and you know that i see all the time actually look for you in the morning, except for they close that path. I have a confession to me. You haven't been going, I know. I hit 81 days straight. I'm getting up at between 5 and 6 in the morning.

Anytime before 6 was my goal. And I like to be about roughly 520, me and Harley go for a walk and whatever. And then, and I hadn't had a drink in 41 days. Man, I'm so impressed. No, no, no. We broke this streak. I was stressed. Work was stressing me.

there was a lot of things just stressed me and finally one night me and the wife I just sat down let's just let's have a drink I just want to have a scotch I want to sit on the deck it was lovely and uh I made 81 days of waking up every morning and then one day I just couldn't pull myself out of bed I was so tired and I don't know if it's because I'm pushing myself too hard I don't know no excuses except I agree and I thought of you the entire time the rest of the day and you know what's funny I listened to a quote once upon a time it says if I don't do it every day and I Miss one. I might as I miss them all. And I've been stuck in this rut. Oh, come on. So I needed, I needed you on here. Because if you don't follow Mikey Dubs, he's all about no excuses. So corny. So I love it. I love it. But it's so like you said, you're the first person actually to my face to be like, I swear a lot, right? So this is my disclaimer right now. I'm got a little bit of a part. You got, so what you say on this one after you, you got to go, okay, sorry mom. Like, I'm sorry. She's going to. No, my mom, she just beats me for it. She needs. She needs.

knows it's coming every podcast I do I try to swear less fuck I mean oh I mean you know it's so um but it started off your first person you uh you said exactly what I thought in my head you're like man I saw your first few Instagram videos where it was no excuses and like fuck how corny is that and that's how I thought like this is the dumbest shit I've ever said like and then it's stuck and it stuck and then I didn't do a video and I got called out be like yeah Mr. fucking no excuse where you're at. And this is like week two. And I'm like, oh.

And then so I went back and I hit it and I hit it and I did it and I did it and I do it every time. And I only do it for when I ran. Right. And then it turned into this thing where people, if I didn't post a video or I didn't use no excuses, people are like, where's my motivation? Like you're, you've killed, you've killed off what I want to do. And I'm just like, oh shit. So now this corny hashtag has stuck like.

But it's you. Yay. But I'll take it. You know what? It packs a punch. When you sit down and you get over the cornyness of it, people say they wake up and go, shit, what's my excuse?

Go, fuck, you don't got one. Like this morning, I had an excuse. And we're going to get to Ross Thompson at some point in this. I promised hundreds of people that- Ross Thompson would come up? Yeah. Speaking of which, what guest was Ross Thompson? Ross Thompson's in the first 50 anyways.

I was going to say, like, his age, She's got to be in the 80s. Just joking. So anyways, me and him get up, 4.30 in the morning. He's coming to pick me up. We're going out to train on the hills. We do hill training Wednesday morning, super early. We go out to our big ski resort, Mountjoy, ski resort.

You know what I'm saying? And we run up and down the hill as many fucking times as we can in an hour. So how many times you get up and down it? Well, we're averaging like six. We probably could get seven in because it's eight. Man, someone's going to call me out on this. It's a little over a kilometer up and down. I think it's about 600 up meters, like horizontal distance, up and down.

And then the vertical distance is 80 to 100 meters, each one. So we go out there and we just bust out back and forth, back and forth. Well, this morning I wake up and I get changed and it's dark out, but I can't tell if it's just dark. and then next thing you know lightning hits thunder strikes and the last thing you really should be doing is ripping up like a hill with and i think there's like a huge power pole or a uh sad a jesus cell phone receiver like a tower there's a huge tower so cracks next thing you know old man ross too old nine doing it i'm doing it so no excuse and i go well it looks like we got to run after work so then i go to work like 630 take off early bust out get here because someone one will beat me up and say, where's your excuse? And I don't have one. I got nothing other than I'm busier than shit, but I got no excuse. So quick, 16. You know, the no excuses thing, it's a weird thing. And you told me this last time, right? When I hop on Instagram, which I try not to do that honestly that often. I really don't like to have it. My favorite thing is sticking my phone

down on the floor, so we get to have a fun little. 100%. This is, this is the, best. I don't have to worry about anything going on on that phone for a couple hours and whatever. But when I do, and I see Mikey Devs up there, you're probably one of, I want to say five people that I'm like, the thumb just like, wow, let's see what he's. Let's see where he is today. Oh, just ripped off like 16K, no excuses. Now, fuck you, Mike. But you know what? The one thing is, the one thing that I really am determined to always make sure is that I don't fucking lie. True. I don't lie who I am. I don't lie who I do. I don't go out there like, Yo, look at me.

Look at my filter. There's no gutty like that, is there? Let's get it. Nike. Nike. And then the camera on the ground as I run by. You know, like, yo, who's videotaping you? You know what I mean?

I like literally some... Could you show us a little more Cleveland? Dude, no shirt. No shirt. Next time. Next time I'm just straight up. No shirt. I don't even care.

But some days I don't even know my next. name if you listen to what i'm saying i'm so burnt out by that point already here is your renaissance news is and i don't know it's like fucking friday i'm just i don't know what day it is but the thing is i always say it's not fun and it's never going to be fun like it's so you don't enjoy it at all i love it but it's not enjoyable don't think you're going to go out and exert your body whether it's spin class biking running and it's going to be fucking awesome the whole time like training is and you know what i've gotten to that point where it's like a leet training so it's like training is training like today i had to run two kilometers as fast as i could

to the point where i couldn't breathe and hold it for two kilometers that's not fun you don't see the finish line in that you leave your house you warm up and then you go all right i only got to do like six or seven of these click it on and you start running and then the one thing you always focus on you'd never look at your watch because you don't want to like mentally trick yourself you look at at your watch and you're only 500k or 500, Jesus, 500 meters, and then you go, I have 1.5. So now you've already beat yourself up over it. You look at your watch, you're at one, you're like, oh, I should I still have half, you're not sure if you can hold it. Like you, you judge yourself. Don't look at it. The watch will beep when 2K's done. So this is what I want

to know, because if the entire time we talked last time, at the end of it, and we sat and we talked for a bit longer, and we probably just should have kept recording. But, where did this start from? Okay, so here's this. Okay, so we kind of talked about it a little bit, and a lot of people don't know about it, and it's totally fair, and I thought, you know what,

this is probably the best time to like, you know, just go over it. So back in university, my dad committed suicide, and from their mental health was nothing, right? It was, it was kind of on the back burner. People knew about it. People kind of shrugged it off, right?

everyone there was no technology social media people couldn't get it out there right so he committed suicide a lot of my good friends at the time a lot of support uh from me and my mom and it it didn't really affect me right because it was his decision it wasn't mine you know it was hard on my mom i saw that it was hard on our family but i never did anything about it and then all of a sudden you know in the last five years mental health has grown and grown and grown and grown and whether you know everyone's coming out with you know their own issues and doing this other thing but then this is where the no excuse came from i literally was like they used to play competitive soccer you know amateur pro wakeboard i was doing it all like i would just loved to do anything you call me

i was in cricket let's go teach me how i'll study it i want to play cricket no dr governor was supposed to show me and just man i i think i i don't think i can just like yo honey let's I got this cricket racket ordered on Amazon. I think we can figure it out, you know? So I need to play with people that know what's going on. But back to the story was I needed to do this, no excuses. So everyone said running. I had knee surgery, so I couldn't do competitive sports anymore because I didn't trust anybody.

So then I said running. Oh, wow, wow. Back this up. You had, what happened in your knee? Some dude illegally slid tackleed me in like a competitive soccer league. Our team was doing really well. and he just saw me and he's just like take him out take the striker you think he totally took you totally guy got kicked out of the entire league like he's he was toast after that because i didn't

even have the ball and the way he like contacted my knee was like perfectly lateral just boom crushed me so then i was out for like a year of doing anything and it killed me so what did what did you tear uh so blew my acel apart and then my meniscus was was flipped in like two places on the outside and it was like a severe tear through the middle on the interior side. And then my tibula had multiple, multiple hairline fractures halfway down my shin. So I was like, oh, this is guy, the Hulk hitting you? No, fuck, man, we're 120. Guy could have been nine.

I don't know. So anyways, like go to this, the competitive sports. I've loved team sports my whole life. I love people. I love just running around doing shit with people, hockey, skateboarding, you name it. I just, I love watching people succeed in something that they're trying to do. It gives me just this, like, satisfaction of seeing, like, the world's not a shitty place, right? Even if it's not me, I just love seeing that.

You can see it in people's souls, right? So then this happened, and I was kind of like getting depressed, and then I was getting into this, like, state where I was like, what do I do? And so I did some research and I was doing some things. And people said, running is the number one for mental health. And I see all these people posting, fucking, I got problems, and I got this, and no one will listen to me. And whatever their story is, which is totally their story. And I'm judging no one.

But mine, I was like, in my head, fucking do something. Like, I can't change you. I can like your photo. I can write you a comment. Yo, Shawnee, baby, you the best. You got the nicest smile of scene, you know, bro. But I can't fucking do anything for. you you gotta do some shit for you I don't know if that was a dig folks or what dude I

I told you I fucking love your smile I told you oh fuck I love that spot so then I'm like do I so I was like I'm gonna do something for myself running it's physically exhausting mentally challenging and apparently clears your head so I'm like okay I'm gonna give this a go so I started getting up in the morning I'm a morning person so I'd run 500 meters you know and I'd be toasted I'm like this sucks this is no fun everyone that's I hear that every time I could bet you money. Then, you know, within a week, it was one kilometer every second day in the morning. And I was like, oh, that just sucks.

Like, there's nothing enjoyable about this. It didn't matter what song I had. Didn't matter about what book on tape. Everything sucked about it. Two months in, I distinctively remember I ran 4K before work. And I called my girlfriend, like my wife at now, but my girlfriend at the time, con. And I go, you would never believe what I.

I did this morning. I ran 4K and she's like, holy shit. And I'm like, it sucked. But I did it. Since then, it was like, what can I do? And then I got into the running group here in Lloyd and in Saskatoon. And guys like Ross, they taught me like, you know what, don't worry about this and little tidbits. You know, I fucked myself up like three or four times not listening, trying too hard, blow a knee out again, rip some shit, you know, all sorts of things. And then I really dialed it in and I said, okay, you know, I started with half a kilometer and I just stayed focused on it, right? I said, you got to give it time to see if it works. I can't do it for a week and say, nah, shit, this didn't work.

So then I gave it six months. And at the end of six months, I ran my first half and I placed like 15th out of like 2700. and then I was like I love this and it sucks but I love it and then you were there two or three weeks ago 123 clicks

tell the listeners what you were doing that was probably honestly a month ago now that was that was July 11th oh yeah it's a month ago literally a month ago yeah so I want to finish the mental health thing

because then I beat that one up and then we're done with it so what it is I wanted to experiment with where it took me in my mind took me to some dark fucking places because when you run that long so the first thing you do is you run little distances and it sucks second thing you do is you start running bigger distances and it sucks you trick your bind with music podcasts whatever distract you you you don't want to be running right you just you're just

out doing something right trying to not know what you're doing then the next thing you do is drop the music now you're running and it sucks you got nothing to listen to but you appreciate everything around you. Doesn't matter if you're here. Fucking Regina. Like, there's nothing sweet about running around Regina. Sorry, Regina. Sorry, Regina. But if you're listening, you sit down and think, nothing sweet, A, about running or

running around Regina. Well, Skana's a beautiful light. Don't get me wrong. So that's cool. But I, uh, then I go back and then, so now I'm like, I did something about it. It's made me so much stronger that no one can kick me down. Like I can't even get down on myself I get up and like oh shit my hairline's like fucking going back

Where's me? We go running clear my brain You know and it's just it's done something Amazing and I'm not saying you have to run But it's things like that that you I think it's the goal The determination You're achieving something

That no one can tell you you you can't You set a goal I'm gonna run 5K You run that 5K Who is gonna stop you You did it You don't have to look for the likes. You don't have to look for the pads on your back. Sure, some of it's nice, but at the end

of the day you go to bed and I'm, I fucking ran 5K. And I don't care how fast it was. I did. Do you think it's the accomplishment of finishing a distance or do you think it's the exertion of it? So I think it starts with the accomplishment of finishing the distance and then it becomes the exertion because I find like it becomes you more efficient. Your body, you know, I was thinking about this on the way over here. I'm like, how many mornings now have you? Or how long have you been doing this? A year and a half only. A year and a half.

Yeah. If tomorrow you went like five days and you're like, I'm just not going to run to see what happened, I think you'd be miserable. I have one rest day a week and I'm shitty human. Yeah, because your body wants it. Like when I'm at work, I can't even think straight. Usually I go into meetings, a monster,

try to be like the lion in the room, not ignorant, just accomplish some goals. Because from running, I know if we work together, if we do what we know we can do, we can accomplish a goal. I don't run that day. I go to a meeting. I'm just kind of like,

fuck, what am I doing here? Like my brain's not turned on. I used to, well, I still do. I read a book, quote,

doesn't matter. It was when the morning, win the day. And it was all about if you get up the morning and accomplish something for you, it's running for me and Harley,

we're going for those walks. And there was just something, you just had a glow on after. Like, just an absolute glow. No one could kick you in the in the junk, right? Like, it didn't matter. And you want to talk about shitty human being.

I was saying that I haven't been out. It's been like six days. I've gone like sparingly. Let's call it twice over six days. I've kind of been a shitty human being. So dude, tomorrow morning, get the fuck up and go for a walk. Even around your block. I'm going to go Mikey Dub search and you can spot it on Instagram tomorrow.

Yeah. Yeah, no excuse. You got to make sure you got no excuses. I love it. I tell you what. I love it. It's corny. It's corny.

It's as corny. Nobody can get over how corny it is. But when you see you do it every single day, it's like, yeah, well, that takes something. I don't care how corny that is, right? I know. You know, listener, you mentioned, when you came in here and you sat down, you're like, man, how are you doing as many podcasts you're doing, right? Yeah.

I was going to take a break at Christmas time this past year. I was going to take two weeks off. We're going down to Arizona. And about four listeners. said like literally text me or talk to me like face face said but that goes against your whole thing your whole thing's consistency like you're consistent every every week you're releasing an episode rain or shine christmas or a funeral or your my son being born you release an episode that's what you do and i'm figure out how to get it done and i was like i hate you guys but all right sounds good that's all i got

paul bisinette right that was the week now speaking of paul bisnet we might as well you mentioned it's a hockey podcast this guy somehow is it just you know lightly sends me a picture of him and Paul Bissnet. What is that about? So I was DJing in a nightclub and as I guess for everyone listening, I may DJ and I may have, that's what kind of got me rolling on a lot of things, but started DJing and I'm in this nightclub and it's packed full house and a group of like six dudes get escorted in like they called it the VIP back door. So these dudes roll in and they set up this table right beside my DJ booth and like all my degenerate friends. friends in the DJ booth because the DJ booth was ginormous, right? So everyone got to all my friends.

I think that's why they hung out with me called Spade a Spade. Some of them are still like some of my best friends today. Some of them I've never talked to. Right. So but you know what? Everyone had a good time. In the moment it was a good group of human beings, guys, girls. So we have this booth and then there's this booth right beside us and all these like fairly, uh, like bigger dude. My friend, circle all little surfers, right? Guys that are like been at the gym, you know, bigger, formal, no chicklets kind of deal, right? And hockey players. Don't know this yet.

Don't know this yet. Okay, okay. Don't know this yet. So then one of the guys comes over and, yeah, he goes, hey, play the song. And I like turn my head to him and I go, what was that dude? He goes, I said, hey, play the song. this song and I said hey I don't know who the fuck you are and he just looked at me like no one's ever said that to him before nobody especially not this kid that's entertaining probably I think there was

about 1,200 people at the club going off people having a good time it wasn't like it wasn't like we were shitty DJs let's put it that way like we knew how to have fun whether it was playing spice girls or Kelvin Harris I knew how to drive the crowd to a good place so then he comes back over and he's his buddy and I think his name that Jared Stoll, right? Is that Jared Stoll? Yeah. So he with this dude and he's got I love a non-hockey guy dude. Dude and he shows me this ring because they just won the cup yeah right and I look and I just go that's a really pretty ring like it's just like nonchalant because again man this is my job you're in my job now right when I don't walk out on the fucking ice like a ref and tell you go to the penalty box for what

totally box, you know? So anyways, they come up and I said, you know what? Fine, I'm going to give you this. And someone, I'm going to knock on it. He said, no, that's nasty 2.0. And I'm just like, okay, I've heard of this dude, Twitter, dude. So now, now I'm like putting it together. And I said, I'll play your song for sure, 100%. Let's go. Play your song. He goes, what do you mean? Let's go. So let's go. We're going to do shot of tequila and then we're going to leg wrestle in the middle of dance floor. And he looks at me like, okay, so we do the shot of tequila. We walk over the dance floor. I've got the mic in my hand. I'm just like walking around like this. Hey, what's going on?

I said, yo, yo, I need everyone to move, move, move, move. And then they moved. And then we played run DMC, right? Like I had it queued and I just looked at my buddy and just like, yo, hit it. So he hit it. So me and Paul and everyone knows who he is, except for me probably, obviously, in my like surfer homies, everyone else there. And they're kind of like, well, what's Dubbs doing?

We lay down our back and we flip our legs up. No fucking lie. He swings me and I like hit the wall like 50 feet away. and I get up you win what song do you want go back up like homies for the rest of the night so and I'm like this this dude probably since that day has done so many crazy things but I think he'll be like yeah I remember that one time yeah that that kid challenged me to a leg wrestle in a nightclub to play my song didn't know who it was I don't think he knew until I left so that's that's where Paul came in and I was just laughing you know it's and now Pink

Whitney's just like well it's and I don't even know if he has anything to do with it but he's like a hype man for him is he is he part of it absolutely oh yeah yeah yeah boom see i love a non-hockey guy you know it's it's uh you were hold on a second how do hockey dudes take vodka and put sugar i have no idea and then brand like i thought they'd have like ipa 5 000 20 percent carb loaded let's get it but but extreme you want to you want to know what my favorite beer is it's well we're talking fourth meridian we're drinking fourth meridian tonight and we're having the sour what no what do we call it the B league sour fourth meridian I tell you what it's it's good enough I'm gonna lick the bottle

out like that's how tasty it is nice little red colored pinkish color too yeah um my favorite beer they have is the blonde I'm just a I don't I don't I'm a typical hockey guy probably I just like a smooth beer just a typical humor so so the reason I think pink Whitney got started and now I'm gonna get hassled because everybody's like you can't remember this I This is a while back. Hold on, let's put you on the spot. I want to know exactly. Well, they were making fun of Ryan Whitney,

who's the other guy, like one of the big, there's four of them on spitting chicklets, Paul Bissonette and Ryan Whitney being the two NHL guys, right? And Ryan Whitney, he drinks a drink called Pink Whitney, which is vodka and pink lemonade. They get approached, they approach the major sponsor, blah, blah, blah, blah.

All of a sudden it sells out everything and you can't keep it stocked, right? Like, I mean, you could have bought a flat of that and sold it for 50 bucks a bottle, and everybody here would have bought it. Like, that's how popular it was. Jeez, man. It was so hard to get.

Yeah, for the longest time. When I was down in Arizona, that was during that time. Yeah. He said they ran out of glass, ran out of literal bottles to put it in. Like, how do you do that? Man, I'm surprised they didn't come out in the two-liter, like, a bottle? Fuck, yeah.

Man, that would have been suiting. Just like, we need to do this for now to make the sales. So, but, yeah, so Paul turns out super nice to. Dude, super nice humans spent the whole night, you know, he hung out with us. He was nice to all my friends, you know. It was really dope one of those hockey players. So now it just raises, you just like, my brain goes 20 million different ways. Normally I got, this is why you do your research.

You can just kind of walk through a person's kind of like, right, you've dropped some major bombs here. And I don't know where to go because. But I told you I wasn't going to like, I wasn't going to drop too many, just some. But I'll, yeah, we were talking about 100 clicks. Well, running, your running thing now is how we kind of stumbled across each other, I think. For sure. Like the social media watching you do the no excuses is, I find it mesmerizing. Because when you talk about running and hear a guy who runs every day and go, man, it ain't fun.

I go, right? But how are you still doing it then? determination man there's goals long-term goals but you say that but you like some of the things that go along with it you like the the clear head the dopamine rush right serotonin release i love it all i love the sore muscles you talk about uh i read a post you had discipline get rid of the anxiety um a couple other things yeah uh how has it changed your life running that much uh and i mean like i assume you ain't out till 11 o'clock at night every night So I've actually had to pull back from DJing.

It was that time of my life I'm older. I got married. You know, I love spending time with my wife. I love spending time with our families. So the running was kind of like that thing I could get up and do and knock that out of the park. And then like you said, days started, move on, let's go.

But I'm not going to lie, 8.30's bedtime. Like, that's how it is. So I know. We got him up past his bed time in night, folks. Oh, God. Just come like 10 o'clock, just be sleeping on this microphone. But so then I Where the hell was I going with it?

So I had to drop DJing and stuff like that To You know be able to run Like I had to pick a route here We're getting old There's not a time in the day Full-time jobs All these other side hustles

So does DJing not pay So back in the day It was good Wait let's break it down for a moron right I feel like I think everybody asks this question Everyone in at everyone listening that's ever seen a DJ goes

Do they make that much money? Does Calvin Harris make $100 million a year? Well, does he? Yeah. Okay. But it's not because he's Dijing, but one thing people have to understand about DJs. It is, it's amazing lifestyle,

and it's really cool. Everything's given to you. Shona bar, all the alcohols there, free bar tab, free ride home, free food, free this, free hotel, free, free, free, it's sweet. But guys like Aoki and Sunny

or Screamy, I guess everyone knows my um they go like 300 so 365 days a year somehow screelix will hit 368 shows because on new years he'll do one in you know he'll get a direct flight from France to land in New York to drop the ball like hits two of them yeah and then some guys do like morning here morning there and and you know after party in Vegas like they hustle man fucking tired of thinking about that dude so so means i've DJ with Steve aoki multiple multiple times and we've had this discussion over and over again because i go dude how do you do this like i'm from lloyd no one knows that like at the time people don't know because i was like in china

saskatoon uh calgary emminton all over the place just every weekend i would be in saskatoon on Friday night, Emerton on Saturday night. Like it was like people didn't know where I was from. So I go to Steve, how do you do this? He goes every minute I'm not DJing or like producing. I'm sleeping. I don't have time to do anything else. Like I go from here to the jet, fall asleep, wake up. I'm in fucking Vegas straight to the club DJ. And then I go home, fall asleep for four hours, wake up and I'm gone somewhere else. And so it's like efficiency at its finest, but then you add in all this partying. Because at the time, you can't say no DJs never drank or partied, right? Everyone has their poison that they pick.

Some are like really fucking extreme. They do a lot of maybe bad shit. You know, I've seen it all. But, you know, even my experience, we would drink because it was unlimited, right? But man, you were a pile of an example. I remember waking up the next day for a show the next night that would be at like 10. And I'd wake up like 45 minutes before because it was such a painful night with my buddies. So it's like I just, I, it's, DJing is sweet.

It's had its place in time for me. The young DJs that are doing it now are smarter about it. Like, because they got to try a little bit more. The market's really flooded. There's a lot of DJs. So they're, you know, they're competing a lot of. more right um they got to try to be more creative but there's a lot more different techniques there's different like back when i started was turntables there was not all these electronics like you know

these little keyboards that have all the buttons so you you had to actually know what you were doing to do it when i started and then now i see there's a lot of DJs so those ones that are still DJing have to try harder but then you got the old school DJs that are still there crushing new school new school is crushing old school like it's just it's a bit of a mix and i'm just kind of curious after covid like when clubs eventually at one point in life open up what's going to happen because some are not going to survive some will survive and i'm not sure what the style is going to be like could you have could you've made a go at it and you just didn't want to make a go for sure for sure i definitely could have yeah i would and i wouldn't have been that like cut dj that like uh one of

my really good friends, the Gaff from Saskatoon, I think he's like world known for sure he is. Like he's a world known. He might be one of the best in Canada. Super humble would never know. You watch him DJ with vinyl. Holy shit. Like the tricks, the cutting, the scratching, you know, all this stuff. He was like, you know, Red Bull kind of style.

And then Charlie Hustle who made it all the way to like the top three in the world for DJing who's also from Sassoon's another good friend like these guys were really like all over the place and it was sweet to watch I was that DJ that you're like I wanted the fucking sickest wedding DJ but in a club and it could be like not even a club I want them at a festival I want them to help headline a festival and it was like people would not see shit coming I maybe didn't know how to scratch as good as everyone but man my creativity level was, you know, top notch. I could just, like this talk, like a hamster wheel, we're kind of all over the place, but

that's how I am in my head. And that's the problem I have with even doing shows or interviews or, you know, because I'm always thinking six songs ahead of what you're thinking right now. Because I need to be prepared. Because when you have 4,000 people looking at you, you ain't got a song, you ain't got some idea or game plan. Well, you look stupid. Right?

So if I wanted to, post Malone's manager, he reached out to me multiple times being like, get you in New York. Let's get you going. Before Post, he was really big. And I was always like, and his name was Dre. And I was just like, we're texting back forth for like a year. You got to come down. Yeah, dude, I got to.

No other person would have been like, yeah, I got to. Yo Newman, what's up? Dude, you want to like go do a podcast? Like people would be like, uh, what? So you could tell that's where my head was at And that's where my wife was like Obviously you've chosen what you want to do right You don't

So what do you do for a day job Uh Engineer You fucking Just gotta add a twist into it man See you folks This is why I was I didn't do my homework

Because if I I just kind of like the Like I feel like somebody out there is listening going Like No someone's listening What the fuck Like what is going on right now?

Yeah right? Right? Like I should, this is, see, you could, obviously you could have just went with the DJ life. Oh, for sure. Was it, was it a choice of like, you know, I don't want Ioki's, his, like that. I don't know if I'm that committed to like, just like, I sleep and then I DJ. And I sleep and I DJ, I have no life. That's all I do.

Yeah. Is that why then? No. What it was is I had to make a choice. Do I give up a girl that. means lots and that this isn't this sappy story this is it do I give up a girl potentially make bad friends give up all the friends I've had all the friends I've just made do I give up my you know where I'm from my like humbleness like who I a lot of people will say like um uh and it's it's it's a

fair assumption from all my DJ he's cocky all this other stuff but people don't understand when I was DJing or when I was doing things, I'm like working. I can't I can't come into your workplace and just like want your attention right now give it to me play my fucking song do this do that Mike never replies and he doesn't follow me on Instagram guy I don't I don't I don't have the time when I was DJ I didn't really even manage half of my accounts like someone else had to run because I was too busy so when people call me out I'm like no I'm like I'm humble at heart I do anything for anyone but then would I give all that up to go and try to make a go at it and become someone that everyone wants to be but maybe it wasn't for me and at the time I said like it would have ruined me in Keneda for sure

she would have she wouldn't she just I think she would have just said nah you know what's too much for me and I saw more happiness with her so that's you know I wanted to spend time with my mom I didn't want to be gone 300 days a year, you know. I wanted to see my friends do cool shit. I didn't want to like live a life through texting. Can I ask? Is this around the time your father? No, no, no, no.

So actually, uh, my father passed before this. Okay. DJing came out of this just because my friends and I were figuring out, how do we get in a club and not pay for him shit? It was a good idea. Dude, it was. And it worked. But then it became like,

extremely like exhausting exciting and overwhelming all at the same time for me because everyone's like oh dubs got us on the guest list and then I'm like yeah I do but I got to work my ass off and if I fuck up you know like this guy like Calvin Harrison I'm with Benny binassian with Tommy Liam blah blah blah blah blah blah I fuck up I look like an idiot so yeah it's sweet all my friends get to come in and I love that and they drink all my alcohol because I'm like sweet but at the same time like in the back of my head I'm like, don't fuck this up. You're going to be that dude.

Just another shitty DJ. I wanted to show like, we're not shitty out here. I'm going to be into the pig launcher. You got to. Just real quick. Last time we, last time me and Sean did a podcast online, he actually had to drink my beer too.

Because I'm just, I'm hard. I don't drink much anymore, man. It's just because I got them goals. I listen to all. So you're in college then, or in university? Yeah. Going to be an engineer.

Yep. And on the weekends, you're staying up DJing at nights. From Friday, sometimes Thursday till Sunday. You had to be on top of your stuff then. Dude, I had my best friend, like one of my best friends still to this day, Biggie, like, he supported me hard through university. He was always helping me. Because when you're an engineer, you learn fast. You got you can't be like sitting there reading the same paragraph for two hours because you get so far behind you had to be able to throw a dart understand where it landed and go right and Biggie was the king of explaining stuff high level to the point the rest is filler and so he would just poop pooh pooh and he would like I don't know how to say it he'd hold my fucking hand and he helped me and I said like if we would have had a yearbook for university like grads I would have said pretty pretty good

sure my name should have been like biggie in here not mine and he knows it like he helped me out huge right but we were like best friends and i i owe a lot to him because he'd see me go out and hustle this but then we got to do a lot of cool shit on the side from it right so it wasn't like he didn't even have to ask he come to a club yo on big mic oh yeah you're always on the guestless getting in here you know so he could come in with whoever the hell he wanted so it's kind of a paid forward you know i i listened to this and i go Until one night he got beat up real bad and broke like a rib, but yeah, you know, but that shit happens, right? Well, that's club life, isn't it?

It is club life. I listen to all this, and I hear the, you know, obviously you're talented, right? Like, I don't think there's any denying that. It takes some serious gumption to get up every morning and run and not just run a K and, you know, sweat a little bit and say that was a hard day. put a filter on and carry on, right? Like, even that takes some work. Man, how shitty are my filters, so? I don't know.

Fuck I'm terrible. Fuck I'm terrible. I don't. Listen here. I don't get social media. I literally just found out a couple nights ago I was talking a Quick Dick who is a Saskatchewan guy. And he tells me he's on TikTok and I'm like, you're on TikTok?

Like, really? And he's like, I sound old. Every young person is like, oh, this old geezer. But I get it. I kind of get it. But he's like, yeah, I had like one video in it. And all of a sudden I had. 10,000 new followers in one day and I'm like from a I just don't I don't get it either I don't

I don't get it me neither I don't have TikTok I don't even know I'm not even sure what the purpose of it is I don't know and I I I'm a complete opposite you already know this I uh I I said at the start I like throwing my phone down there not staring at it for the rest of the time I like yeah I just like a good conversation too and there's not nothing beats it there's that you get a high off of uh probably DJing you get a high off of uh probably DJing you get a high off of running. I get a high off of talking to people. It is the weirdest thing. I will have problem going to sleep tonight because I come home after talking to something from two hours and you'd think your jaw'd be sore and you'd be just like, I gotta go to bed. Instead, I'm just like, I'm a rocket. It's a

natural high. Just straight to bed, rocket. That's right. Hello, hon. Hello. God, I had a good interview again tonight. Oh, baby. No, but my favorite filter, though, on the side note is the LGBTA, like they got all those filters and people can judge for whatever they want. But I have a lot of friends in that circle of LGBTIA. So now that there's a filter, if you ever see me, I'm just always like, because I think it's just because it's the first one there. Boom, LGBTA filter. And it's got the disco lights going on in the background.

I'm like, I love this. You got a, you got a, I'm a kid from Helmand. What, LGBTA now? What is the A. LGBTA. A. A lot. Oh, I didn't know that.

Is that what it is? Yes. I was like on a board for LGBTA in like the area just because, man, like I said, I fucking love everyone. I don't care. And we'll go back to, and this will be good because it goes into this long run. I don't care. People make fun of me because I don't see genders. I don't see colors.

I don't see sexes. I see everyone for who they are and how they carry themselves. driven, humble, caring, laughter, you know, just things that describe a person, I don't care what you are. And all my friends, they just think it's funny because I have such a wide open circle of friends and we get along so well. We're all brothers and sisters. Love every one of them. And they all know it. You know, I don't hang up the phone when I talk to someone like, hey, what's going on?

Blah, yeah, yeah. Say, okay, yeah, yeah, check you later. Yeah, love you, bye. Like everyone. It's always like that. And to show my support for that, people were like, that they were looking for people to be on the board, help run small events.

Fuck around like, you know, 5,000, 10,000 person events. How hard can a fucking pancake breakfast be? And you know what? Just sign up and just, you know, just straight volunteer. Do those events for LGBTA wherever I could. And just to show my support for them because a lot of people are scared. Like, dude, I wear skinnier jeans and probably your wards. wife like you know and no offense that but like people make fun of me all the time like oh you're

wearing canita's pants again i'm like oh can he's five feet tall we just be caprice bro like yeah they're like yeah i get it but like then you throw that guy on the board and then he's running the pancake breakfast so then you get weird eyes i'm like dude look at me all day long because then it puts me in how they feel and i just shrug it off could care less judge me as much as you want because at the end of the day i'm super happy you know i got my friends. I don't need people that judge me for that dumb shit. You know, so it's just my way of showing the support. And then going a little farther, that 100K run, someone came up and said, yo, there's this backyard ultra, 6.7 kilometers every hour on the hour till you die. And I'm like,

it sounds pretty fucking cool. I'm in. Like, let's do it. So we set it all up. And then one of my really good friends in Calgary, who was like a brother, I grew up with him. I lived with him, him and his family. He's really the protests are going on for George Floyd and everything in the States and BLM. And Ollie is really strong with the Black Lives Matter. Ollie's my brother. Whatever he's strong about, I'm strong about.

So then all my friends in Saskatoon, you know, some of the indigenous community and all these other communities, LGBTIs again, right? They are all speaking up. So it's like a racism, sexism. It's about, it's basically about judging anybody, right? So then I'm like, I'm going to clab it with the run. I don't really give a fuck now about this backyard ultra. Like, I don't care about it.

Someone's going to whip my ass 10 ways from Sunday. So I'm just going to go out there and say, I get, I don't get it, I'm listening. And in order for me to voice my opinion, I can't go protest. Lloyd had like, you know, which is awesome. They have 20 people on the highway. Yeah, right across. from a cop shop.

Awesome. I'm glad they did it. Didn't even know about it until I saw it like two days later. I'm like, fuck. Like, I've looked like an idiot, but whatever. So then I'm like, I can't protest. So I'm going to run for as long as I can with end racism on my back to show.

Just because I couldn't make the protest, I'm going to beg myself clean to prove. And I'm not going to quit for nothing until my body says you're done. And then that's where that 100K or 123 or whatever ran. like 19 hours later and you know what when I stopped it really disappointed me because when I stopped I wasn't tired my legs didn't hurt I had a fucking tendon issue on the top of my left foot like how shitty is that I kind of felt bad but my wife how long did you go for uh 120 oh dude 123.7 is that the longest you've ever ran man one yeah my longest run before that was like I

uh the like a couple weeks before that I crushed out for 42 on a Saturday just to see if I could even run that. So I did 21, 28s, 30s, 28s, 5s, 15s, 40s, 10, 10, 10, 123. Okay, I got two throats rolling through my brain. One is the racism thing. I'm going to put that over there just for a second. Yeah, let's pocket that one. Just for a second.

When I watch you on the running thing, I always think, gee, and I think this is a line for my brother when we were biking, but gee, if you just, and for biking terms, if you hop on the bike and just start pedaling, you never know where you get to. You think in a year and a half, you run, in a year and a half's time, you're running 120 some kilometers. One day, one sitting. Yeah. That's pretty fucking impressive, man. I gotta run to Saskatoon, no. Like, I got to. I don't see why you don't.

I don't see what's holding me back. I got try. It's optimistic, but I got try. What is that? 240 something? 239 or something. Maybe a little more, 260. I need Paul a Bergen here.

You can tell me. Yeah, dude. So, fuck, man. How were we friends before that? I would have came out and I would have ran as far as I could when he did that. Wow. He's going to do. I'm sure he's going to do.

Well, I think, well, we all know COVID kind of ruined a lot of different things this summer. Right? Yeah. He'll get a good one again. When he does, I'm sure he'll be looking for people all over the place. But that was the longest I'd ever walked in a day. We walked 49 or 47K. That's a hall.

That was a hall. I mean, you were doing this on the asphalt, right? Like, that's hard on the, even walking is just, it's hard. You don't think of walking as hard. You walk 47K, let me tell you. You know, you would have been proud of me. Took the wife for our anniversary, our wedding anniversary was on the second. and took her to Banff.

Yeah. We go to Lake Louise, right? Stay in Banff, we're going to drive to Lake Louise. We want to go to her out. See, she's never been there before. She's from Minneapolis. So get there at 9 in the morning. And there's not every parking lot of school.

I mean, it is like, it is like, I don't even know what to say about it. The traffic is something straight out of like Christmas Eve or something. I'm like, it's 9 in the morning. What is going on? So can't get in. So we just start driving to Jasper. We're like, first place we see, we'll pull over and we'll do a little hike.

Well, we stopped this one place. We end up hiking 19 kilometers, 18, 9 in, 9 out. Yeah, yeah. And got to a stone throw from the top of a mountain. And the only reason I had an excuse that day. Oh, God, let's hear it. I was in, I was in running shorts with like just nice little, I don't know, Nike. Nike, pretty much.

Yeah, yeah. wife with me and we had one liter of water. Okay, yeah. So we did 18 kilometers on one liter of water in running shoes while everybody else had hiking poles and hiking boots. And I don't know the accent. My wife said maybe German, but we're coming down, right? We got to the point where we could, like, I'm telling you, if it was flat, you would have been there in 30, 40, 50 seconds of just a nice brace of wash. But it was so steep.

And our feet kept sliding. and you're kind of like, this probably isn't safe anymore, and you're tired, and you've got no water to walk nine kilometers are out, right? And anyways, we get down part way, and this old guy comes up and you hike up there. Yeah, looks me up and down like that. And I'm like, yeah, bravo, and just carries on walking. And I'm like, I'm completely out of here. Like, I'm not supposed to be back here.

That's the running community. That's no excuses for you. It is, and I'm proud of you. I thought of you when I was sitting on top of the bottom. How did you know how did you know what's a photo? Oh, that's a good question. I don't even, I probably post one maybe. I don't know.

I don't know. I probably did. I didn't see it. No, I got to be honest. I try really hard to disconnect from all. Like, I don't, you know, I know there's a book out there. Or you could go to a class or you can do whatever. And you can get on social media.

And it's like, listen, if you post it this time and this time and this many times, you're going to break down the system. And I'm like, that's great. The algorithm, you'll get it. You'll get it. I want to punch myself twice in the face. It's just you talk about Stevie Oki, DJing and like all he does is sleep, DJ, sleep, DJ, whatever, right?

That's a tough lifestyle. Yeah. I think if in order to be successful at doing something like this, I have to post like four or five times a day at certain times to ensure that I make it. When I'm doing it, I'm just, I'm cool being a Lloyd, Lloyd kid and working here. And if it goes somewhere else because it's just good and people like it and somehow it gets found, Yeah. I mean, there's certain things I can do where you can do right to help promote ourselves.

Yeah, like how many people do we got tagged? I don't know, about a thousand. And then what? You just make them so small. No one can click on them. Like what is? And that's what I mean, man. People are too driven by if you have good content, you have good drive, and you are just focused.

People are going to see through it and they're going to tag on for the ride. Consistency is the one thing that social media can't tell you, right? 100% You got to be consistent. The no excuses. Rain or shine. Consistent. You got to just,

if you say you're releasing something, well, Monday, Monday Wednesday, you've got to have something. I fail because I was supposed to do a podcast every two weeks. Summer hits.

I train too hard. No excuses. What the hell is going on? No fucking, I got no time. Actually, I need another three hours per day to get this dealt with.

I released the Brothers Roundtable. Number five. That would have been episode like, 102 I think and we were in here until like 11 at night recording it and then after that I've had a couple of scotches and I had to like try and get it all put out so I'm in here until like one in the morning and I wake up in the morning and my picture says episode uh brothers roundtable number four and then in the actual audio it says number five and then I have another picture it says number four and I had people text me going is it number four is it number five this is so messed up I'm like I was

tired full of scotch but people are listening yes they are that's what's up Yeah. Oh yeah. It's so you got engagement. But consistency going back to it. I don't think if there's one thing that I watch that I enjoy about you, right? Because if it was no excuses and then two weeks went by and you weren't there, it wouldn't carry the same weight. What's cool about it is you just flick it on and you just know what's going to be sitting there, right? Yeah. Well, there it is. Sometimes I miss them though and people beat me up and I say, you know, I actually ran like. But that means you just said people, listen, people are paying it. I know that's pretty cool on Strava like you'll see it literally GPS is everything Strava it's uh it's like uh it's like an instagram for uh all all types of athletes anything that you want to do like physically active tracks you shows you your GPS where you ran how you ran your speed your time how fast you paddle board it how fast you biked how fast you swim it tracks you you got to have like a smart watch you know so it instead of photos you can post a photo but beside your photo will show your actual like GPS coordinates of what you

did what he did so it's a running thing so there's no bullshit so when people are like oh fuck I'm he did oh yeah yep no he was there oh yeah no yeah he did it and then it shows you your activities day and and it keeps track so I started it because every once he got again Strava and at the time there there wasn't a ton and then I found out it actually kept such good stats I could see my progression And as I started getting more serious about running, then I could be like, okay, so one day I did it this and my heart rate was at. So what did I do wrong? Tweek it the next time I try that same like training day. My heart rate would fluctuate.

Okay, I'm on the right path. Then the next day, do it. Okay. Oh yeah, that plus some because with running, efficiency is everything. You will keep driving for efficiency. I've got to bend my knees half a degree more when I plant my foot. You know, you talk about Ross Thompson. We said we bring up Ross.

In running, is there a mentor program or a way to go to like a class about how to run? So, I don't know. I just think like hockey has elite hockey training, right? Goaltenders have goaltending training. There's a lot of shit online that you can do Nike run clubs. There's all these apps and stuff. But an app isn't as good as someone physically seeing you. So Ross has been a triathlete for multiple years.

The guy is like, in all honesty, he's a monster, dude. Like, bike, run, bike, run. He's the most consistent dude ever. The only time he has an excuse is he's so ill. Like, he's sick, sick. And I've only seen it once out of the year and a half that he's missed training because he was super sick. Do you get sick anymore? It comes and goes.

I run through it because I find it flushes my body and I feel good. But like said, rest is everything. Lots of water. How much while are you drinking in day? I'm a little dude so I can my body can absorb four ounces every 15 minutes So it's I've met this fucking this is how serious I am man. It's so serious listen here I don't I don't do shit half ass let's put it this way anything I'm gonna do I'm gonna figure 110% no 300 Okay has to always be

I can hold three ounces of water comfortably in my mouth without being like the blowfish like like expanded so if I can hold three ounces from a squirt. So then when I'm running, I don't have to calculate how much water taken in, you know, one good mouthful, three ounces. Two good mouthfuls, six ounces. So I'm good. So you're saying if you drink too little, too much water, that affects how you run. Heart rate.

Heart rate just fucking all over the place. And that's the one thing. You don't want to produce lactic acid. You don't want to. And you learn that all from just running? Just running and condition. So McKenzie. McKenzie Brown, him and his wife run couch to 5K with Carrie Mace here in Lloydminster.

And so they're doing what you wanted, you were saying, right? Nike Run Club has all these apps, everything's cool. Human interaction is unreal. So the three of these individuals came together and says, let's do this. Oh, and Chris Boe, I can't leave him out. The four of them started this couch to 5K, they called it, right? So anyone that wanted to learn how to run, small program, we're going to start your little. We're just going to walk one kilometer tonight, right?

Next time you come, we're going to run 100 meters. We're going to walk 200, run 100, whatever they had. They had a schedule every Wednesday night. So they did this. So I met McKenzie through there, and McKenzie had the shit dialed in. He had the physics of running, like for his form, for who he was, dialed. So I took him, took Ross Thompson, took a dude named Brian Stevenson, who's like a really good friend of And he's been like a

Dude he when he grew up he was like on team Canada for skiing so he knew a lot of like the endurance side of stuff He knew a V-O-2 max like the best way to do is you got poke your finger while you're fucking almost out of breath Running on a treadmill 200 miles per hour and then they have to see how much oxygen in your blood like he was crazy like to do like that stuff so he knew the science So what I did is I took everyone shit Read like six books and I was like boom I read books on anatomy of the brain Neurology psychology like just not like

how to like manipulate people how to manipulate yourself and what your brain does to do that books on running books on running form books on other runners

and how they got to where they were um so like that's what I mean I take everything 300 you want to do it fucking do it you know you know it's eerie and I thought this when

when we talked the first time is the way you talk about running is the way I look at interviewing somebody or uh And I bounce all around tonight. But hey, I, I'm instigator of this. True, but I enjoy, I actually enjoy the style with you. It's very, it's very fun.

It's, it's brain teasing. Yeah. But when you talk about reading books and studying and that kind of thing, I do that with podcasting and listen to so many podcasts. I read, if I find somebody I like, you try and dig it, you know, go down the rabbit hole of what have they done, how did they do it, have they put anything out, read their things, try their techniques, see what works, see what doesn't work, and it's a constant involvement into trying to get better.

So I really get that. Yeah. It's a really cool mindset. You have to, man. If you want to do something and you want to make it worth your viewer's time, like I haven't heard anything. Dude, this is a tire pump for you, sure, sure, but you deserve to hear the stuff.

I have lots of people that were my bosses in the past, still really good friends. And they're like, hey, Mike, you have a podcast. Yeah. You should check out Sean Newman. And I'm like, yo, dude, yo, Redden, Bart. Have you listened to mine? No, no, I haven't got around to it, but fucking I know religiously.

Bart is listening to yours. And I love Bart. So you're grabbing the attention from, you know, him. People are seeing it. People are loving it. You know, no matter who you're doing. So it shows in your viewers. If not, they would be dying and dash.

Boom, see you later. I'm out of here, right? And you have to show them that you are focused and driven. People can see it. And same thing with running. And I'll go out and critique people. I'll help people with shoe demos. People that I don't know reach out to me daily.

And, you know, like for me being so busy, I try my best to like someone will randomly send me a message. Like just a DM that I won't see and it'll be like two weeks later. And I see them like, oh shit. And they're like, hey, you're the Nike guy. What Nike shoes do you wear? Do you like these ones? And then I say, here's the engineering. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Like, did you talk to an engineer? No, I'm an engineer. Like I literally cut one of these motherfuckers in half and tested them. Like that's how my head rolls. Like I have to sell it to myself before I can sell it to you. So then I'm like, you know, there's like the reaction of the foam is this and this and this and this and arch support, blah, blah, blah. Because I've done all the research and they're just like, I think they just literally a fucking right from my chat read to Nike to purchase and just, man, it's got to work. But again, I'm biased for Nike because Nike works extremely well with me.

Nike hooks me up with some stuff. So I love Nike shoes. And like you said, like I said when I came in here, everywhere I go, I've got to have something that like fits the bill. And a lot of that is a Nike. Well, A, I wasn't going to cut you off, but I appreciate the compliments. I get very weirded out by getting that type of praise.

Do you want to hug? No, I just, I enjoy. We'll hug after, like with faces not toward each other. I enjoy what I do. I truly think this In saying that I don't know how better to say I say this all the time

If people didn't enjoy it And there's only, I don't even know I guess there's only like three Three dudes that troll you every time That's right Yeah, same three fucking dudes But I really like to get to know people And hear their story

And it's just kind of cool for people to I get two things right I get man I really like your stuff man your stuff is two hours long how the heck do you expect me to get through that i don't know man like if you don't want to get through that's cool get lots of apologies because people aren't up to the up to date and i'm like well you already said it when you walked in you're doing three week not doing three a week but i get two and a half it's a lot it's a lot but i enjoy it's it's uh you know i tell the the story that uh up until this year i was playing hockey senior hockey three four times a

night uh in a week yeah so four nights a week i'm giving up just as much time into senior hockey and all I've done is just got no senior hockey might as be doing something you love rolling the podcast and you know what one thing you said to me when you're with with me is uh you know what if if if dubs isn't your thing just wait till the next one I love that like the positive look oh man come on you got to listen I need the views they're like no no dude if Mikey dubs or Earl weren't your jam get with Gordie Redden you know like get with get with uh i don't know braiden holpey was just on right exactly but then

right after i did braden holpey i think it was like two later it was spiral yeah and i i tell you what i enjoy brayden holpey but uh i'm assuming you know spiro uh his story is like man how like he's got some history oh it's just it's crazy anytime i sit down with somebody who's who's experienced life and I I don't get the young people think I'm old the old people call me a young and and I just consider myself a young and right like I'm not that old compared to other people I sit down with um on Sundays so are you saying everyone you interviews old compared to me yeah just kidding honestly how many young young guys do I do right I've done a few but you learn from people with experience with experience they got stories to tell lessons to

lessons to give you yeah perspective everything well that's It's like me training with Ross. Same shit. Dude's like fucking a hundred. I told you this when you did the interview with Mac. I said, listen to the interview with Mac. I'm like, you got to get Ross on. Oh, my God.

Everyone says it though. That sounds freaking awesome. But you know what, Mac, you know, I bet you bastardizing, but Mac's young, dude. And he's got a lot of knowledge for running. But then I think I realized Mac put the time in. And then he got it from people he was surrounded with. And then I'd see Ross and I go, you got it from this old. This old motherfucker.

Ross, Ross explained to me how T-Rexes and Raptors fought, because he saw it. So this is what we talk about when me and Ross run. He's so nice. Fuck off, Mike. That's all he says. Laughing.

But it's just like, you know, how many clicks we're going to do? I don't know. Let's try to get at least a. fifth of Ross's age and then we'll bang out 30 you know shit like that so he's such a good trooper and man like like you said experienced and I uh yeah it's just uh I don't know I uh you but a lot of my friends that are young there I don't know everyone like you said everyone's got a cool story you can learn from anybody about anything at any time because everyone yeah leave me at least an inch of that left you like no no no I'm just saying that

That's all I probably. But, and that's why I like the podcast. That's why I like listen to yours because you interview people I wouldn't typically be on my list. And it's not that I don't think they're cool or they're super interesting. They're just, I don't know if I would have that. I could carry the conversation, but it would be, I'd be digging at times. You have to be, uh, I, I enjoy all different podcasts. The only ones that really, I just don't know how to get.

They're, they're fun, but they're at the same time, I'm like, ah, is. when they, it's like a 20-minuteer. It's what they do is they have somebody really smart on. I'm a history guy. So what they do is they take a 20-minute, they compress it to 20 minutes because people like something short, right? I get it.

Then they bring on some really smart guy. He starts talking about like, I don't know how the pyramids were built in theory. Yeah. And then what they do is as he's talking, they slowly fade him out and the guy comes on and goes, listen, what he's going to tell you is it took about 2,000 years, and they like shorten it up to like 10 seconds.

And I'm like, I don't want to hear you like sum it up. I want to hear this guy talk about it. Yeah. Heck, I almost want to just turn you off now because you've just totally screwed the pooch on the entire podcast. But people like that. They like condensed. Yeah, yeah.

And if people's time is money, right? Like they don't have time. No, no, no, no. Well, let's say this. People think they don't have time. You make time for whatever you prioritize. 100%. So if you want to,

If you want to sit on the coach and drink a beer and watch the hockey game, and I know I'm talking to a lot of my listeners because a lot of guys are sitting watching the playoffs. Like eight games in a row or whatever they're doing right now. I got nothing against it, but that's how you prioritize your time. Yeah. Right? Like I'm taking off for Vancouver here to go do a bunch of interviews. Super excited about it.

Yeah, yeah. Got to read five books in the next two and a half weeks. And somebody goes, how are you going to do that? I'm like, oh, I'm going to do it. I'm not sure, but I'm going to get it done. Yeah, I'm going to get it done. I enjoy reading. Five.

interviews yeah sweet i'm i'm pumped about it what do you what do you just getting it done just going uh oh yeah can't spoil or right oh sure i can uh i'm not worried about it i i i was worried about letting ron mclean slip because that one was you wouldn't even tell me dude yeah i wouldn't tell anyway and you know what the best part is he probably like he might not even know who this dude is everybody knows and can't of yeah that's true that's true that's true i don't know i'm not too worried about I got five interviews lined up. This is not supposed to be about me. It's supposed to be about you.

Yeah, no, but this is cool. I just, I've had a trip lined up to clone up earlier in the years so the wife and I could go and I could bang out a few that I really wanted. My dad's cousin survived the perfect storm. Was in one of the ships, one of the only ships, It's a Chinese fishing vessel that survived the perfect storm came out of it. Yep.

Oh, you're seeing the fatal flaw of the studio. She's warm. Dude, and I'm wearing like a full-blown sweater. Sean knows best. He's wearing shorts and sandals because he knows about this. So I've wanted to get her on for a full on since I started this. I think whether or not it's as amazing in my mind or not, I've listened to her talk about it a couple times.

like, I just need to get this. I just need to get this. And then, you know, she got breast cancer last year. Oh, shit. And I went through like the, holy, like, what happens if the worst case scenario played out? Yeah. And now COVID's going on. And she's not 20, right?

I'm going like, I just got to go, right? You just got to go. And so a couple things lined up and going to bomb out there and hammer off a queue. Good. Good. And, but going back, the whole point of this is people, prioritize their time. Yep.

So everybody says time is money. They only got so much time. They only fuck off. Like I mean that seriously. You prioritize your time how you want. For sure. So if you want to run 100 kilometers, you can hear it when you talk.

Your focus is on tuning your body to the absolute top notch, but that means running a ton, being, well, biking, just all that. And that's what your life is focused around. Some guy is not worried about running. He just wants to show up or earn a paycheck. There's nothing.

wrong with that. Nobody's saying there's anything wrong with it. But if that's what you want to do, that's how you prioritize your time. And so when I hear people say, you know, they don't have two hours to give you. You just haven't, if it meant something to you, you'd figure it out. Like, I mean, I really like Joe Rogan. And when I don't drive a lot, then I'll start listening to it when I walk in the morning. Or I'll start listening to it when I do dishes. And I don't like listening the things when I do dishes other than like maybe a little lately, it's been cold or wall. I just like a little bit of folk in the back. and it's fantastic, right?

But if it really means something, and there's a cool of interview, you find time to do anything you want. For sure. The Euler game's on tonight. But I'm supposed to be at the anniversary dinner. How am I going to pull this off? Well, if we go here at 9 instead of this time,

we can make it work, that's how you do that. It happens all the time. Yeah. But you get in your way. You know, the coach to 5K,000, I think it's brilliant because I think people, when it comes to five kilometers, you think five kilometers now that's a long way that really isn't like you walk 5k and probably what an hour

yeah uh it depends on your walking fair hour and a half then nine kilometers i i walk uh nine minutes per kilometer actually 856 856 for a walk if i were to just be walking let's go two hours of light walk and you could have a 5k down no i'd have that done uh five No, no, no, I know you would, but I'm saying for somebody who's just sitting there, listen, this going, like, I, 5K is way too much. It's like 60 minutes you'd have one bang, don't. It doesn't matter who you are. Okay, there you go. And an hour. Like, is an hour going to kill anyone? No, probably not. And you know what it does after you do the 5K? I encourage you to do it again. Actually, you're like, shit, I can actually do some things.

Like, I just did a 5K. That is like, you don't need somebody to tap you on the back for that. It's like, 5K. right i know and that's what i love and that's what i love about i man people people hate listening to runners because fuck runners will talk about running run run run run run run can you always laugh hey uh so can he is my wife she her friends like yo what's mike doing run run run run run run and they just laugh because if they ask me mike what you up to this week and run run run run run run run run run run like that's all like that's that's just my like but they know i don't just run like i don't run and go home and pit in i have dude shon i am on the board i am on the board of so many fucking things

that it never ends. Like when you said Wednesday, I literally was shifting shit all over the place to hit eight. And then I miss my run this morning. Well, I appreciate you doing that. So I go to work early to get off at what I think is early, 4.30.

I think that's probably like, you know, I go in at 6 to get off at 4.30 to bang out that quick, that run to get here. And I appreciate that. But you know, but I had to shift other things around, you know, in two weeks.

And this is a super plug because I think this is fucking cool. In two weeks, I am the guest DJ for Dr. Jody Garrington. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So Jod is like, uh, she's like almost like family to me, but she needed DJ. So she brought me into a, uh, women's, was it women's day? I can't remember. She had like a thousand women in cam, oh my God. Rose in a hall and I was like she's like I need a DJ Michael you DJ I want to try something with

you I want you to be my Twitch I'm Ellen right Jody's huge she's blowing up man I tell you what if there's gonna be a lot of man going who just ask your wife who yeah dude if you don't know who Jody canrington and dudes no no no guys aren't gonna let you be very clear that the only reason I know who she is is because of my wife and show me videos around oh okay and honestly honestly kind of weird that I knew about that a month ago. But that's because of my wife. So anyone listening and goes, who is this chick? A, ask your wife, B, look her up online because she's fucking hilarious.

She's a motivational speaker. She's helping the teachers of today be better for tomorrow, young kids, kids these days, blah, blah, blah. She's got a list that goes on and on. She's super funny. She sends me coffee mugs in the mail. That goes, I love pretty little things in the word fuck. I give them out. Give them out to people I know.

Chicks at fall. I go, like, well, disappointing, you didn't bring one of those in here today? Dude, I don't have any. And I'll text Jody as soon as I leave.

I'll get you, I'll get you a fucking list of mugs. And every hockey dude and everyone else that comes in, you're going to have Dr. Jody Carrington, be nice fucker. Is, like, her new mug. I should have pointed out my wife's a teacher and that's why.

Anyways, I'll get your wife a mug, promise you. I promise you. Joe, I'm calling you, because I'm going to, Anyways, two weeks, I'm doing this big show with her and she's sold thousands of tickets.

And it's a virtual show. They rented out like a global studio. They're redoing the green room. So I have a room. She has a room. Mr. D times three. This dude from the LGBTA comedian from Seattle's coming up. You know, he all of a sudden just followed me on Instagram and he was like, oh, Mikey.

I'm so excited. I'm like, boo, we're going to kick this off, dude. And he's like, dude, what song are you going to play? I'm like, Len don't steal my sunshine. He goes, we'll be friends. But that was fucking, that's how quick that conversation went. Like, is that the first song you would have just said to some dude that has like half a million followers? Like, let's see, let's see what your flavor is here real quick.

And like, everyone loves that song. Anyone listen to this song? If I saw you in a club four years ago and I was DJing and I play that song, I promise you, you wouldn't have stopped dancing. Promise. I challenge people. Get me in a club. You're going to, you can play whatever you want, and I'm probably not going to stop Dan.

But some people are going to cross it. Yeah, but those people kind of. No, but no, but then I catch them out. And I'm like, dude, I know. This video of you are stupid. They're the same people who probably say, you know what? Give me a pop star. Justin Bieber.

Let's go Justin Bieber. They'll probably say Bieber. What a loser. But man, he's got some catchy tunes, man. He's talented. He's extremely talented. So you're telling me these people are like, fuck Justin Bieber. He walks in to your house.

You're having supper. You're going to go get you out of my house right now. Now, I guarantee you're starstruck like every other person that's ever met. I don't know what I'd say to Bieber. Beaver walked in. Super quiet, super humble. Okay, but here's where I become, I'm the weird guy now, okay? Here's the only time I think that I can remember that I was starstruck, okay?

and I get to interview him when I go to Vancouver along the way, which isn't that far, is Daryl Sutter. And people are going to be, you know, oh, that's sweet, right? Viking. We were at the Bruce Stampede. My sister married a guy from Viking. We're at the Bruce Stampede and upwalks Daryl Sutter and his, you know, just cowboy gear, typical farmer, like, just whatever.

And my girlfriend, who is my wife now at the time is, you know, watching me do this. and it's me and my oldest brother, my brother-in-law, and they're talking to Daryl Sutter, and I'm there, and I, like, shake his hand, I couldn't spit anything out. Like, I want you to think of, like, literally, I was like, nice to meet you. Like, I don't even know if I got that out, right?

And I walked back over, and my wife was like, what was that? I mean, everybody knows me. I'm a talk-up guy. There's very few guys. Paul Bissinette, who, whether you love or hate him, whatever, he's super, that didn't starstruck me. Darrell Sutter in covered in cow shit and whatever. I couldn't literally get out, hey, how's it going?

And that's me getting Star Star, People walked in. My eyes would lift for sure they would. I wouldn't kick them out. One of the most popular people in the world. I know, but for everybody, what I'm getting at, for everybody, it's a little different, right? Like, you were just, you were saying,

my in-laws didn't know who Ron McLean was. So if Ron McLean walked into their house, They wouldn't know. They wouldn't know and they'd probably be like, you need to get out of here. Yeah. Rahm McLean would probably love that, right? Yeah. Bieber, you're right.

He's pretty much global. I got some for you. Just meber's outside. Sorry. So look at now you. What? Better get that third fucking mic out. Let's go.

Listen, if Beaver's sitting outside, I'll put a mic there. Yo, Jay, come in. He can't have any pig launcher, though, because it's all gone. It's all gone. So Starstruck, I, uh, Who have you got I got one guy Only one dude

Okay The resume of people I've got to DJ with And you know perform with and all this is huge And I actually can't remember everybody But uh Daryl Sutter I think it was last year We beat his team

Just smoked him Viking Bonspiel curling Curling And he was looking at me the whole time Because he goes Who's the fucking skinny dude Like skinny jeans We're in a piece of love hat.

Dude, yeah, no lie. And my partner, Lilithino, was like just fucking one of my best friends, too, just deadly curler. Like he's in every fucking league from here to, I don't know, Nova Scotia. Like, he's in it all. So he's our skip. It all comes down to him. We toss rocks. He cleans up at the end.

We put him in bad spots and he somehow pulls it through. But we've won the oilments in Lloyd. Really? Oh, fuck yeah. We've never not got a plaque every year we get a plaque and I'm just that dude but I also got like Monty Armstrong Like long time oilman you know he's curled forever he's really good cobes is on so cope this dude skip cobs Monty's son Tyson but in Viking we go down there with my wife and his wife and it's mixed and we enter in And my mom's boyfriend he's down he's from biking so he gets us a team and we end up I think not second somehow I can't remember

the ice down there's a little bit sketch here it's like in a barn right like so it's a little sticky we're not used to it whatever but we we play darrell setter and it was it was nothing like because it was like for you and me i don't go shit but yeah i know who he is we're just playing some dude he's wearing a black hawk's jersey cool sweet good for you let's play let's curl we're here to curl and so this year if we go you can come with me so who got who did you get starstruck by then. Oh, dude, this is a good one. So you'd give me the Daryl Sutter. I want to know who your star struck. Daryl Sutter. Okay, not Daryl Sutter. Well, I'm like, wait a second. Did we just, did we just both say Daryl Sutter? That's kind of strange. Yeah, yeah. Travis Barker. Okay. I have loved Travis Barker since early blank days when he had like the little spiky hair, drummer, badass looking punk dude, right?

Kind of like pop punk star, right? I want to point out how funny it is. I get stars. by an old farmer, you get starstruck by a punk drummer. Yeah, yeah, seriously. But everyone's different, man. 100%. So this is a funny story I actually thought about this one. I was like, man, I kind of hope we go to, somehow I get onto TV. So I'm DJing at a club, Travis Barker's after party.

He asks his managers to get in touch with someone that finds me to DJ this after party. thousands of people, club's right jam pack shoulder shoulder. So he's in this VIP booth to the side. And then the picture this in here. So DJ booth right in the middle in front of everyone on the stage. VIP booths to both sides. Travis is in my right side. And to the right of him is a bar for like direct access for people like in that VIP booth to get alcohol.

So I'm DJing. Haven't said nothing to tea since he's been there. And he comes in and. He's there and I'm like looking over. I'm like, holy fuck, Travis Barker's actually here. And in my head, like, palms are sweating. Because this dude is like one of the best, most well-respected artists in the industry. Like you, even that Joe Rogan podcast, you hear fucking posty.

Man, Travis Barker is just almost number one. Like, they all say it. Joe Rogan said one of his most, his favorite interviews is TB. like he's just such a humble dude so anyways he's standing here beside me he's kind of standing there and he's taking pictures he's trying to be nice you know picture picture picture sign picture and there's people just fucking lined up outside his VIP booth so i'm DJ him DJing and I'm like I'm thirsty I'm looking out I'm like got nothing to drink there's a million people around the DJ booth because we're trying to get to trav and I'm sitting there and I'm like oh god what am I going to do and I can't

leave because I'm trying to like oh I'm trying to fan boy trav you know like check me out and I'm playing all cool shit. So I look over and right when I look over, he looks at me and I look at him and I go, Hey, you. He's like, he kind of turns around. He looks back on me. Me? I was like, yeah, yeah. Can you get like me vodka soda vodka something? Turns back around. Turns and looks at me. Me? I said, yeah. He literally goes, okay walks through the crowd of people with two of the biggest homies I've ever met or seen. I guess I met him after, but seen, just pushing people out of the way. He walks over to the bar, orders a drink. The bartender is like this.

Like she has no idea what's going on. Is he coming to order a drink? Like he's got so much, right? So he goes, he orders a drink. And then he looks at me and I could tell in his eyes, I don't carry cash. I go, I got a tab. I got a tab, you know? And he's just like, oh.

And she, the girl didn't even ask him for money. She didn't even know what to do. She didn't know if it was for him or for who. She slides it to him. He takes it. He walks it politely, puts it in. He goes, if you need another drink, just let me know. And that kicked me in traffic.

Right after the show, he waited outside in his bus for me. When I was done, went out there, hung out, chit-chatted, gave me his number. And dude, we talked for years. we went to L.A. He met up with me and Kahn. Like, it was just like, could you imagine someone that you were so, like, and you know what it wasn't,

he didn't see the star-struckness in me, right? He saw this dude, this kind of treat me like, because at the end of the day, everyone's human, right? They all put their pants on the same way. If they have pants on, you know? Fair.

Pretty sure half of his drumming things he's in his underwear back in the day, right? but like but it's it's it's how you it's how you like you you look at people i wasn't asking them for money i wasn't asking them for to you know can you repost my photo so i can get followers from your followers it was just dude i have followed you my whole life i can't believe i'm meeting you right now it's really cool you're a real cool dude that's how it went and it brings to mind sometimes you don't want to meet your idols because they'll disappoint you yeah some of them But that's a cool story in that it didn't go that way.

No. And you know what? When we were talking, like he's had some crazy pass for sure, but he's like he's like super clean now, vegan, no drinking, doesn't smoke weed, doesn't do anything. They ever asked him like, how tough of his life being like that? Where you're in a club and you got a million people and you, I, you can tell they're to the point. And maybe that's why they, you know, I got along with a lot of these people is because you get a million people throwing themselves at you.

Fuck and sign my shirt. Sign my, do this. Or the women, probably, or men for that. Yeah. If it's a famous woman,

right? Like just throwing themselves at us. Like, chuch, choo, one after another. And, you know,

I think you just, my really, one of my, man, I got a lot of best friends because I can't, I can't sit one person on the best friend pedestal. Right?

I never want to be someone's only best friend because there's a lot of cool people you meet. Everyone's got to have multiple best friends, right? So one of my other best friends. I had six groomsmen at my wedding, and I had a hard time because there's like three dudes that I had to like have a sit down with him and be like, hey, can I outdo you?

Yeah, but my wife cut me off. She goes, fuck Mike the whole eight. My wife's like, the whole wedding will be your best men. And you have some girls up there too. You're going to have the best women up there. Like, shit. I always told him the wife, I always said, I got three brothers. You got to, like, I need all of them.

I can't, you can't single out one brother, right? You can't just say, you're the only one. Yeah, the rest of your toes. And I go, and I can't not have them all. Like, I can't just go, no, I, sorry guys. Like, most important day of my life, I'm not going to have the three brothers who've been around me all my life and continue to be around me all my life. So I can have five, like, yeah. So how many did, how many bridesmaids?

Did she match her eight? See, can you have this? And when we were. So we get married in Minneapolis and we go down to downtown Minneapolis and I forget the park, but it's the famous park with the cherry on the spoon in Minneapolis. No, you're challenged me and I know nothing. Anyway, so we got this group that looks like, I mean, we got a football team. And then if you stare straight ahead, there's like those stairs that come down, these big, wide stairs.

And down comes another football team of a married couple that had 16 with them. And we all looked at each other because we were trying to take photos. They were trying to take photos. And one of the guys leaned over and said, we might have to, you know, we might have to have a little, yeah, a little rowdy out here. Right? Like, it was unbelievable. Yeah. I love it.

I love it. We had a 20 person limo that, and we had to have a car behind. If you've ever been in a 20 person limo, it sits, like 15 maybe. Yeah. We fit 21 in it. And I tell you, it was a freaking party. It was, it was, God, dang. you know what I mean when I say I got I got this other best friend so my my one best friend or

another homie of mine Mern he he grew up as uh commerce student and then he got into DJing from you know you know he was hanging out with me and then he was working at the bar and they became a DJ and he became this phenomenally creative DJ but he had the same sense as I he never got starstruck you know be with Calvin Harrison what you do tonight yo Mern what's up uh yeah I'm just uh had DJs Calvin Harrison now I'm just gonna go home I'm tired Cool Cool story, bro Call me in the morning

And let's go Let's go skating I asked this last time Whether it's You're running Whether it's your job Whether it's just life in general Where are you aiming to

Or do you want to run There's no limit What is next Like are you are you want Do you want to do 500,000 miles of running Or do you got a goal of like Listen, there's this marathon over in Tuktiuk, that's what I want to do.

But now the borders are close, and now we're just going to run. Commodores, for sure, in Africa. Okay, let's... It's 86... Miles? ...cliques. 86 kilometers. Cross from Johannesburg to...

Desert? No, I think it's road. I think. But you have a time limit. You don't make it. They fucking shut... So this is what I love. No participation ribbons for everybody.

I can't remember exactly. I'd have to look at the details on it, but let's say it's 12 hours. If you don't make it in 12 doors, they shut the cattle corrals on the finish line. They open a little side gate and bouncers stand along it and you have to walk. You don't get to finish. It's the longest going ultramarathon in the world. Some, a war vet had mental illness and he got into running and it changed him. So he started this race, and it's like the longest running ultramarathon ever hundreds of years or whatever.

And I'm surprised you don't, yeah. I need to read a book on this. Yeah, dude. The, so I read a book on it. It's about it. It's called like the, it doesn't matter. I'll show you after. It's like the endurance athlete to something.

It's a book. But listen to it on tape. It's this dude that's like trying to go through about being an ultra runner. And then he ends at Commodores and anything. It Comrades Not Commodores Comrades Jesus

I fucking That half a Half a pink beer is really going to your head Holy shit I'm just so excited about it Because when I started running I didn't know one race I know like the Sea Weezy

Or something It was a Lulu Lemon race in Vancouver And I don't even think it's called The Sea Wees I think it's called I don't know what it's called But that's my thing is That's the one thing I will say I am not driven by race

I'm driven by running I love to run I don't care of what race I'm not in race mode people will only run to prepare for a race I run because I fucking love running I haven't races to look forward to

well why are you training so hard man because I want to see what my limit is I want to see where it takes me I want to see the people I meet I want to see the people I encourage so do you ever see a day where you're not an engineer anymore like you just run and

I don't know I'm super I'm super creative I know you got the clothing line Yeah which As people can Well maybe they can see it over there This has been bugging me since the day you gave it to me Peace of love baby

Okay a piece of love folks Why didn't Okay on the front It's a peace sign and a heart Yeah okay So why doesn't peace say peace with an A So my other half Kev who's like a super creative dude

I take it you've been asked this question before 100% So we had peace first with a with the with the name like the the hippie symbol of peace yeah yeah like you know uh peace to peace peace the thing is it's contradicting what we did with the peace as in break because we're trying to give i'm trying to break you off a piece of love but then our symbol has this the peace sign but that's because if you ever see me i give you the peace sign always i always have i run no lie shan the one i don't did you see that story where i said you realize i've thought no

Nothing about anything else about walking in here for 30 days. But why is this about with an eye and not a name? Because I'm trying to break love off for everyone because no matter how fucking cool or awesome or successful you are, you're missing some love of some sort. And if it's me just giving you the peace sign, there's some love. So I'm breaking off a piece.

A piece. Okay. I got so much fucking love. I got to be honest. I had like 12 different scenarios in my head. And one of the scenarios was probably breaking, you know, it's a piece. I get it. But it's the peace sign on the front, piece of love.

To me, I go, be it. We're super chill. And everything we do is for charity. So all your hat sales go to charity? Everything we do. And this is something that drives me nuts. If you love something, you'll make time for it. I love peace of love.

Everyone that knows me, I roll that shit on my back. I spend lots of my own money on it. Like me and Kev for the last four years, every dollar we made went into piece of love. That we, so it was like guerrilla marketing. We would DJ, take the money, buy a shit ton of clothes that we would design and make and support Canada, kept it all in Canada, just because we're trying to help the economy. From there, we would sell it. Whatever we made, we donated to fucking anything, man.

People would just, we read out of things like, hey, if you have a cool thing you want to donate to, get at us, you know? And it was like, people are like, oh, my mom's going for some crazy spinal surgery. She got to go fund me. we're not that fortunate of a family blah blah blah things like that and hit you at the heartstrings no but the thing is we would get a lot of these so we'd have to do our background check so it takes some time check in you know this so this specific girl check in on her figure it out understand see what's going on boom check the next day 600 bucks there you go boom right into the go find me calls tears everything

next day hey kev uh baby grand piano for an elementary school for the less fortunate got a hold of us you know they know what we do they support us you in fuck yeah we're in you know 1500 check 2,000 dollar check you know here go so i spend on average not in the summer so summertime training time so everything i do is september to may basically i spend probably man i it's like a hundred hours a month in peace of love that i get zero for I bought that hat and gave it to you. I bought that hoodie I'm wearing. I own the line.

I bought it. I physically have to transfer money to my account to balance the sheets to buy a sweater because I can't take from something that we want to give from. So what is it? Why? Dude, karma, I think at the end of the day with how crazy the world is and how much people judge each other,

I just feel like one day, you know, I'm going to have some karma that's going to like help me or people around me. But dude, again, it comes down to like the running. Like, and it's not this. I ran after a piece of love started. I love seeing people smile. I would give you my fucking shoes if I thought it would make a difference in your life. I'd give you anything, right?

Because when you see someone smile, it's like a fulfillment to me. So Ronald McDonald's house. I met a person that. was at Royal McDonald's house and they were just like fuck how good did they take care of us you know this and that and so I I contacted I just went out of my way busy right in the prime of DJing I said hey I heard you like you guys blah blah blah is there anything anyone could ever help you with she goes oh my I don't know where this list starts I said just throw a few at me and she goes okay so then she goes we're a little strapped for funds for you know ABC but the one thing that

really stuck out to me is in the winter months there's kind of like little strapped for their heating and utility bills right and i'm like how can you house all these like these people that need you when you can't you're struggling keep those bills on right i said we're going to fix that so i get a hold of kev and i say fuck we're djing all month of october friday saturday friday saturday we're going to make a donation box we're going to figure it out all our funds going into the donation box we're gonna we're gonna do this and of course kevin's just like yep you know because he believes in good karma too at the end of the month we paid for their entire heating bill for the whole winter ronald McDonald's in saskatoon because i was like boom and i walked away and we this is what's funny

people go you guys didn't even post about it what i'm we don't have to what i'm really I think I called my brother and we talked about it on the walk the next morning and I'm struggling with it all over again and I love to think if I'm struggling with it somebody out there listening to this is struggling with they're like either this dude's fucking line or they just want to see like

and we don't get tax receipts from me either so I could show you like e-transfers you know what I mean no no no I don't know you could be bamboozling me sure you could I guess we've talked enough now that I I don't think so I guess is what I get. I go 90, I don't know, now I'm going to pull a number out of my ass,

but 95%, 99% of people believe they're playing the game of chess on the board for their life, right? If I move here, this is the consequence, but da-da-da-da. So when I hear you say, I work my fucking ass off, DJing all the time, and then building a clothing company to just give all that money back. I'm like, what the hell is that? What the hell is that? Anyone that knows anything about business goes. That doesn't.

Stupid. You see, he was stupid. No, just, just that, just, I don't know,

I guess, that's why I always ask, like, so where do you want to be? Like, what do you want it? Are you just, you're in the perfect spot

and you're running, you're married. Dude, it's not even, it's not even, it's not even a perfect spot. There's better. It's just,

now Canita's with me, we're going to go somewhere better. And, getting married and I always hear funny stories from people being like oh I got married and then they got divorced a week later and you know what they had their struggles and shit and it happens like I just heard of one the other day like got married I can't I don't know I can't remember for this guy or girl they've been cheating on them and now they're divorced and it's like sweet it was a month and a half man when I got married I'm like this is fucking awesome and I'm a busy dude I like I got I'm always

just going I'm like I can love this and like you said on my podcast Every strong man has probably double the strength of a woman behind her. And 100% that's what I got. Everybody wonders how I do what I do and Mel must be pissed. I tell you what, if Mel was pissed, this wouldn't be happening. I wouldn't be here right now. I'd be like, oh, okay. 100%.

You know, when you say you shut down the DJing because of a girl back an hour ago, I was laughing in my head because I quit playing hockey because of a girl. I came home from Finland because I was dating Mel at the time. And you know what? I don't want to make it sound like she was like, you know. I just didn't want to lose what I had. No, no, no. And I don't want to make it even remotely seem.

I don't even play the game of what if I'd stay over Finland. If I'd stayed over in Finland, I probably would have played like eight more years, earned a boat, me a thousand euros. Fuck, how sweet would your elite stats be, though? Oh, they'd be sweet. I'd have a lot more sis. A lot more sis, right? Oh, you would have been the past king, bro.

7,000 games. You know what I hate about that interview? million points and all of it. And on top of it, I found my, so I actually have a hockey card. I actually have several hockey cards, but one of them, it literally says, I literally say as an 18 year old kid, I'm not an offensive defenseman, I like focusing on the defensive zone or something. And I'm like, you suck 18 year old.

I like, I wanted to crumple it up. I get called out on Debsy's podcast for not having enough goals. The first thing, I didn't, I don't research people, but I wanted to find one good jab at hockey on you. And that kid, dude, that was top search. And I was like, this is unreal. But yeah, so end goal? I ain't got one, man.

My end goal is. What's your next goal then? You see you're a guy who broke down running. You've got it dialed into this point where you can put water in your own. But I do that with everything. Okay, fair. So is your next goal, you just ran 127. Yeah.

Is your next one, you know what? There's another one coming up in six months. And that's the one. It's going to be one. I want to fucking be Elon Musk. I don't want to stop for nothing. Visionary, keep driving, take chances. So what do you see happening for the piece of love clothing line here?

You know, so it's funny you brought this up. About a month ago, I had to sit down with kids. He's really busy. Come October. So actually, very cool. This is a perfect time for it, actually. We made a line for Ollie, the gentleman I mentioned before with Black Lives Matter. and then and racism and the line was supposed to come out but the people that make my clothes

couldn't get the clothes to me during COVID right so when I got the clothes finally now we made a line that's like different than anything we've ever done logo chest pocket everything's cool on the back it says people so we ran through about 14 ideas black lives matter and racism fuck racism this that this that you know the problem was the racism is like so broad right that and you know the judgment is so broad how do i get the message out there right so we came up with a line that actually just got off the print it's like fresh it's coming in the boat i think two weeks i get it it's on the back it says listen learn grow and it's just the message And it's like a sweet, simple, big, in-your-face design.

So everything we sell those for are going to, depending on how it works, we haven't figured out of this logistics. So I don't want to, don't quote me on this, but it'll either go to a group in Emmetton, Calgary or Saskatoon, all three because that's where we're kind of like all the work. We're from, right? No offense to Regina and everywhere else. It's just we don't make that much money on this stuff.

It's just very little. every little bit helps. So we're going to blast this line and we're going to try to help out. So I design like crazy dope girl cruise, sandstone hoodies that are like, you know, I think they're super sweet, but it's get the message across, right? So this is a line that I'm really passionate about. I'm going to wear that shit all the time. And I know Ollie being one of my really good friends, best friends too.

When we did it, like his face was just like, thanks. because when this all was going on, and I don't want to get down this rabbit hole because I don't know where this one ends, but everyone always said, you know, uh, what are you going to do, Mike? Like a lot of,

I have a lot of friends. What are you, what are you going to do? You're going to go pick it with everyone. You're going to do this. You're going to go on Facebook and say, fuck all you white privilege people and this and that. No.

In my head, I said, I'm going to listen. I'm going to grow. I'm going to learn. I'm going to, feel and I'm going to do what's right to help all y'all this is what I struggle with and I'm I was thinking to myself as you started talking about this we put this over there and now it's

come full circle I'm glad it has yeah I really struggle with the the the racism one just in our particular area and maybe I am correct me if I'm wrong because I may be wrong but I I married an American married a woman from Minneapolis George Floyd happened and there's definitely different culture there. And she calls me on this all the time when I say things like, I just, I don't, has, does our area have that much racism in it? You know what, dude? We would be stupid to say no. Well, actually, I would say this.

I have a hard time commenting on it because I'm just like, I don't even know what to say, right? Like, like, but that's, that's where the listen, learn, grow is. right because you i'll say the same thing as you i don't think so but then someone listening goes fucking where have you been i know with the blinders on probably and that's our fault and that's all that's as far as i want to go on this topic but that's our fault so this is running the 19 hours straight shooting for fucking 30 hours man i was super fucking bomb that did 11 hours after 19 seems super easy fucking excuses so but that was that was was my that was what kept going you know canida had like hundreds of voice recordings and videos

what does she say about the racism yeah so she's cambodian right right so her and again this is and this is where it sounds stupid i'm just like i don't it's not that i don't get it i'm just like how are people so fucking like it's 20 20 why is there still racism you know i her mom and dad are like they're my family i love them we go to west end mall i see someone look at them i look at him fucking stupid like what are you looking at and then they leave you us alone so then I go but why why did that person do that in the first place here's the thing here I understand why racism is still here and and that stuff is still here and by here I mean on the earth yeah you only got to go back what was it 1950 it wasn't long ago 1956 something like that

is when they started doing and now I'm forgetting the word and which is terrible of a history guy but uh where black and white schools mixed and if you look at the pictures of that I'm like what are they all yelling about like this is But here's my view on it. And correct me, and by all means, is back then if you've grown up in, they're over there, we're over here. When they go together,

I can understand some people being crazy. We have crazy right now. Yeah, we have real fucking crazy. But now you fast forward, well, that's pretty much 70 years ago. And it means that we're getting better, but there's still people that were children and under the thought of the people

that were those people screaming at, black kids or the seg you know i know right and so but we're getting better aren't we i i would like to think so but you and me never lived then i know well and that's that's why it's hard to talk about right that's why i tell everyone just fuck racism man everyone's your brother sister unless they do you harm or wrong then judge them but don't judge them for their sex the color who they are who their family was man everyone has the freedom to do their own fucking choices so when they when they fuck you. I don't mean that.

I mean like over. That's when you can judge them. But not on those topics. You judge them over for being a piece of shit. Not for, oh, you're a piece of shit because you're this color. Like what fuck? If someone, if I've, I've been, so here's a really good story. I've had my ass fucking kicked.

Been in like one or two fights. Because I don't like controversy like that. I'm not a fighter. Look at me. Obviously I look like one. He's a beast. Yeah. I look like.

I look like one because I'm so just jacked up on Mountain Dew. But I hate fighting. I walk out of a nightclub with one of my really good friends, Iver, and someone yells at him. And I'm just imagination what they yell at them, right? Because to me, this word is stupid. And get a grip, dude. It's like 2014.

Doesn't matter. Yeah. I can imagine. They yell a stupid word at him. Iver turns around and he goes, what did you say to me? And the guy says it again. And then somehow the reason that Ivers like, I'm only here to get my coat from the coat check.

And this guy happens to be a bouncer, yelling from the front door in the door when we're in the line to get his coat at him. And I turn to the bouncer and I go, dude, what the fuck is wrong with you? Like, and I'm like, why are you a piece of shit? That's what I say to him. Well, what happens? Boom.

They're jacked up on Mountain. Who knew just headlock hocks me out of the club then Ivers like oh yeah and then they grab him and they throw him out and they're beating the shit out of both of us outside because I went after him for like what the what what yeah and my philosophy is why would you even say that right and why are you just a fucking terrible stupid human and he beat me up beat him up but you know what at the end the day I said I didn't fuck it get beat up unfortunately I was fine Iver was fine he was shook up right um but you know get a grip dude the reason i like talking about it it's it's very uncomfortable right it's an uncomfortable subject but if you don't talk about it right you say oh that's all i want to say on it it's like well if we don't talk about it then people you know don't talk about it and the only way you get past things is by talking about it for sure and it's it's one that just why it's hard because here in Lloyd Minster yeah

but he's just there isn't a diversity there just isn't there's no diversity there's no inclusion at all and I just assume that it's getting better but at the same time I'm in my bubble other people in their bubble and I'm not doing any well I'm God I hope I'm not doing anyone harm how I like to think I'm the happy guy that smiles at everybody and says hello and and, you know, I don't, like, I'm, like, you know, but I find myself second

guessing myself, which really sucks because I'm like, I know I'm like, I walk down the street, wherever it is, hey, how's it going? Great. Everybody. Right. You know, that guy looked like you may have been smoking crack, but how, whatever, he's having a good time, right? Carry on. Right. Like, it has happened. Dude, I run through vagina, two people shooting up meth. Yeah. I say hi. It startles them. Mid, mid, firing up. I actually, don't even know what's math. I don't know what you do through a syringe anymore. It could have been fucking, like, gutter water. I don't know. But I'm like, I run by and I see them out of the corner and I go, fucking sketchy. I'm in a bad neighborhood for sure. I don't know where I am in

Regina, but I'm bad. I'm bad bad. When you're doing that on the sidewalk, you're in a bad neighborhood. Mike, just be you. If someone fucking stabs you, that's the, that's the card that was played here today. So I get closer and as I get closer, they're like, head, they're down and I don't know if they're trying to fucking hit the vein. I don't know. But they both. focused. Like it's as if they found a thousand dollar bill. Like they're examining something, which is a syringe in someone's arm. Don't fuck this up. Don't fuck up the Coca-Cola in that syringe. I could have drank it, you know? And I run by and I say, hi. And they look at me and they're like, oh, hey. I'm like, have a good morning. And like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you too. Just continue

on. I'm reading Jim Patterson's book. There's another spoiler alert for Vancouver. And in it he talks about being a door-to-door salesman in the 1950s. Yeah. And he learned. What I love about it is he was a guy who didn't just try and sell you the same old pot and pan the same way. He tried to learn, okay, this worked. What worked about it? Okay, let's figure this out.

And he talks about in his book that if he whistled going up the step, a jolly tune, 97% of the time the door would at least open. Whereas if you just went up quietly and knocked, lots of times people just ignore you. And I'm like, oh yeah, that's cool. A little happiness. And you just never know.

I said this to Spiro, because Spiro was a guy that went through a dark place in his life. He had a guy from Lloyd reach out, and just a little bit of belief goes a long way. Not saying two people shooting up and you saying hi, but you just, you don't know. It might have made their day.

A ripple turns into a fucking tidal wave. That's right. So I just one other super random story. So one morning I'm like, I'm going to run to Kid Scotty. Just because I've always wanted to try to run on Highway 16 toward Edmonton. Just see like how shitty the traffic is, right? What time did you start? It was like 5.30.

Okay. So it doesn't take long, be there an hour, 20 minutes, end of story kind of deal, right? So I get up, I head out, I'm running down the highway. And as I get to the corner of the highway, I go, you know what people always ask me man you post nothing on Instagram you post nothing on Facebook I don't if you really look like this lately right there's not much like my last post you know other than the the blackout on Instagram months ago so I go I'm not about the thumbs up in the comments like I you know they're nice but you know I'd

like seeing real ones so what I did is when I roll down I was 16 I waived at every car that passed every single car on the highway because i run into traffic right right peace signs hang loose piece sign hang loose wave this rock and roll whatever it was whatever my hand shooting them out 461 people i counted it because i got time 4161 people responded to that that is more than any fucking person i know other than a celebrity that gets likes on their fucking photo I got the real deal shit. And I remember being like, that's what it's about. That's cool.

You know, and people were startled. I'm running. I'm nowhere near Lloyd. They don't know where the fuck I'm coming from. They don't know if I just ran from North Balmere. They're just giving me the piece symbol? No, because they'd be like this. I just be, do, do, do, do, do.

You know, like, everyone calls me a gazelle because the way, I don't know if you notice, like the way I run, it's like, long strides, like, and like just fluent and the rhythm's just consistent, right? So a guy coming at you and as you get closer, just, poop, piece sign, hang loose, rock and roll. Lots of rock and roll. You know what the worst part is? I had to get a massage. You trying to tell me you gave the peace sign so much.

My shoulder. Your shoulders, sir. Knots. I had to, I have one of those impact guns. Dude, I had ran it on there for probably 20 minutes and you could feel the knots. And it was like, it was disgusting. And the next day my shoulder was like sore. Dude, you just do this for an hour and a half.

Just so that motion, I think most. A lot of dudes, but, but they have four inches of travel. I had, you know, four inches of travel for 37 seconds. Yeah. Hour and a half, approximately, you know, 28 inches of travel, you know? It's like, it's a normal night too,

but I'm just saying like it's also when I'm running. So I did it. Counted it. Every, you know what I love? Your oil field workers. Everyone hates on them. Sure. judge what you want two guys driving in their crew truck just like you know that five o'clock bounce the

tim hortons just like kind of on the cigarette half hanging out of one with their mouth just kind of like my life sucks that's probably the dude that's wife left him jean on someone you know like everything's just terrible all of sign this guy running which is no fun we've established this rolls by boom peace both of them are like oh shit hey hey and what like you and i and i love because i can see their review And you could see they're still flustered. Their hands are fucking in the air. Like, I didn't know. I didn't shoot you.

Well, you realize a ton of oil field workers come from the small town. And back when I was growing up, you waved it everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Because you knew everybody. But now people don't. Well, because we don't know each other. Who cares?

I agree. It still happens. You'll be driving down the highway. And all of a sudden, you wave and you'll be like, why the hell did I just wave? And the person wave back and they're both, we're both going, that was kind of weird. Who was that? Is that Bill's cousin? No, no, he wouldn't be out here.

What is he doing out here? So everyone that drives with me laughs because I wave and no one waves back when I drive. Like, I wave at everyone. And Kenes-o's like, when are you going to give it up? I'm always just like the old farmer wave just off the dash.

Have you tried different ones though? Giving them the... No, only one that works for me, dude, is window down, out the window. Hey. Well, that's because you're too out. You got to... No, that's the only one I get a wave.

The rest of them, I, unless I give them the somehow everyone sees the finger. Well, that's a universal sign, right? And that is a way to fire somebody straight up. I know, but I could, I could like the Martian split your finger, V-wave? It is crazy to me. And they'll look at it and they

don't respond. I give them the finger, they give me the finger back. Like it's like instinct. But if I wave, and they see it, they don't wave. It's crazy to me, though, if something so small can make a person's day. Have you, now you got McDonald's and Tim Hortons and they've got the two lines, right? Because that makes us feel like

we're moving somewhere instead of having the long one line right so all you need to do is when you get to when you get moving up right and it's your turn if you're close to the next person moving just let them go and the sheer joy that is on their face because i've been the other person where i'm like no no no no you go and then they're like no no no you go i'm like all right i'll go and hell half the time i buy them a coffee because you're right behind me i'm like ha i feel good oh yeah literally what was that like five seconds that that's what they gave me and over the moon But I mean, the finger's no different. The finger just raises the blood level.

I mean, like. It's wild. We were out walking with, me and Harley were walking there probably two months ago and came up to a crosswalk. And I've learned this in the mornings. Don't take for granted people are awake yet and walk right across crosswalk. For sure. You need to look.

And I told Harley, I'm like, we're walking up to him. And it was like his second day. I'm like, whoa, just wait. He's a what? What? And the car blew it. And he was so mad. I'm like, man.

It's like 530 in the morning. morning they probably are like somewhere else don't even let it bother you right and then it was probably like two is this at bud miller entrance uh it wasn't at bud miller it was uh holy rosary oh holy rosary in a school in a school zone okay yeah yeah and uh it was probably like a month later a girl not a girl i want a vehicle buzzed us and i was mad he's like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa you you just need to chill out it's okay it's 5 30 tomorrow i'm like yeah you're right so take my own medicine 5.30 in morning Budmiller crosswalk, I've hit that thing hundreds of times. One time I go, someone buzzes me.

You know, fair enough. I'm running, right? I'm always watching, but I thought he saw me, right? So I'm running out. And then when I'm getting close to leaving the concrete that enters the asphalt, I realize he didn't see me. He doesn't see shit, actually at this time. Misses me, fucking clips the curve, like the median on the other side.

like bounces his truck all over the road. I'm like, there you go. Fucking karma. You know? It's hard now because, you know, like with people, I can't sit here. I'm a hypocrite if I say I've never done it because I have done it. But like with the phone's ability to just take your distress, like to just distract you, I can't imagine like running down a major highway anymore or biking down.

You're really focused. You're not looking down. Yeah, you got to pay attention because it only takes you one. I contact with every person. That's why wave is because I'm watching for my safety. Right? But at the same time, it's a kill of birds too stone. My safety, their enjoyment.

A wave, like you said, man, make 461 people had a little something more that day. Because Mikey dubs. No, just because a random fucking dude running. At 5.30 in the morning was just out there blasting rock and roll signs. Well, I know I could do this for another four hours, but we're over two hours. So why don't we? Are we? Yeah, why don't we do this?

I'm keeping you up late. I'm going to make tomorrow morning, you're going to be like, no excuses. No, tomorrow morning. Actually, my run schedules tomorrow night, so I get to sleep until whatever, six. Perfect. Yeah. Perfect. Yeah.

I'm going to have a no excuses post tomorrow, not that anyone's going to hear. This comes out Monday. So Tuesday. You're going to run with me Tuesday when, oh, this comes out Monday. Yeah. Monday morning, let's go for a tear. What's a tear to you? Whatever you want it to be.

Let's hear this excuse. You have a little sweat. It's hot in here now. Anyways. I could do a 5K. Screw it. I could do a 5K Tuesday. Yeah.

Yeah, done. So, real, one last thing, because everyone, like you've alluded, I need to set a few things real straight here. 100K wasn't fun, but I did it. And I'm sad that I didn't do 200 because I really wanted to do 200K. That was the goal. I'm going to do it. No, no butts.

I'm going to try again. If I don't get there, whatever, I'm going to try again. Can I interview when you hit 200K? 100%. Like, I just want you to be like, I thought, you know what's funny? I had my alarm set for three in the morning, and I thought, I'm crazy. Should FaceTime him. I'm crazy.

And so I just, I was like, I'm going back. You do it again. I'm coming over in the middle of the night, bringing some podcast gear, just so I can have a two. We'll just do it. Two minute like, and you can interview people, just bang off a bunch of randoms there. True, true.

So 100K wasn't fun. Did it for a good cause. I just want to put that one to bed, 100 plus K, I guess. You're only as strong as a person that supports you, which is my wife, and she has been phenomenal throughout. She lets me do a lot of weird, crazy fucking wild shit

that I promise no other wife would be cool with. Not in a bad way, but in like this exertion, like pushing yourself to like these extreme limits that are like borderline. Insanity. Yeah. My roommate, Chu was there serving food the whole time. You know, your crew is just as important. If no one has nutrition, no one's doing that shit.

He was on the bit from 6 a.m. until 2 a.m. when we stopped. And he was planning to go all fucking night, right? my mom she's always supported me my whole life for being fucking wild and never being able to convince me otherwise when i have a vision of doing something it doesn't matter what she tells me i've ruled out the risks i'm a big boy i know what's up you know um so you know those three people especially for this run you know play a huge part friends that came videos that came and then peace of love all the homies that support it because they like that's That's how I know I don't have to prove to no one where the money goes because so many people support it because they see it.

Right? They see things change. Like that's the thing is trying to get the world to change for better. That's the goal. Whatever that takes, Sean, I don't know because tomorrow morning I'm going to have a new idea how to do it. That's the goal. You want to tell our next podcast at 205.5 episode. We will go over where we're at.

that point. But the way you're banging out, it could be next month. So I'm really have to get the fucking shit or get off the pot on something here. But there's no end goal. The end goal is to always progress in the right direction for change and keep pushing the limit of mankind. Because when you're bored, you're not doing fuck all. You've got to keep moving. Well, what you're doing is interesting. And I like interesting people. So I'm sure 205.5 can happen. That'll be a little ways down the road. That's perfect because hopefully I have some cool. Well, let's do, you know, it's funny.

I still have the Crude Master Final Five. I got to hammer out. I know. I've actually, I thought, you know what, I'd study for this? There's no studying for this. There's no studying for this. You know what? I feel bad because at the beginning when I started doing it, I'm like, oh, that's a tough

question. I'm like, come on, just give me something. Then I started thinking about it. I'm like, if I was put on the spot, that's kind of a tough question. But I feel like enough people know some of these questions are coming, that hopefully they're not so tough anymore. But anyways, crewmaster final five. I still don't even know what they are other than listening to people bang moat.

So let's get at it. I love it. I just, I try and create unique questions. They're probably not that unique anymore. The first one is, and you do a podcast. So if you could sit down with one person on your podcast,

who would it be? Who would it be? Like anybody? Yeah, like anyone, dead or alive. You could have anyone to pick their brain. Well, what comes to heart first is,

I know her so well. Like my wife, I really like, we're going to do one for an anniversary. That's a spoiler. Like that one year, what's it like living with a weirdo? That's what it's going to be called. Right? So that's what I is. So she's like primary.

Of course, my mom, I've known her too, but I like to open her up on a podcast to see like where she came from. But if I had to choose someone that would be, you know, people are, I'd like to get Elon and Bill Gates in a room. I'd like to see the weird clash of Titans from those two. Visionary people started from weird shit, you know, invested their whole life fortunes to try to make their dream happen

because no one would give them credits and now look at them billionaires, right? I like those kind of people. I just want to see what their brain's at. Like they're visionaries, right? They've done some stuff. As much as people might not like them now because of whatever they're doing,

they got there. They invented, like, teams. Oh, look. You know what I mean? Elon Musk just put a bloody spaceship in outer space. But he failed a few times doing it, but he learned. 100%. And he's going to get that sucker.

Well, he got that sucker to land. But he just signed with, like, NASA or the government now. Like, they want his shit. 100% they do. Guy's genius. Yeah, but he's the guy that sits on the, yeah. We'll get next time. He's, yes, agreed.

But he's the guy who him and his brother started a company. They rented a place like this, probably smidge bigger and he slept on the couch so they wouldn't have to pay for an apartment yeah so I mean he'd be a fascinating interview yeah so it's it

and there's a lot of people like that but just off the top of my head those would be that be a fun one okay I just like it there what one race if there is one race and you might already answer this with comrades but is there one race that sticks out to you that maybe you're not there yet

and you want to get there uh So there's a thing called like the big six So if you qualify for these races You can do Oh Jesus now You're getting tired Boston New York Tokyo

London Berlin Oh my missing the six one It's terrible Anyways if you qualify for them You get to do all of them But you got to be really fast And then you get a little plaque that says

You did all the big races right But the one race I'll always support Is Saskatoon's because I fucking love Brain Sport out of Saskatoon and they like you think people sink volunteer time into making a race happen like brian from saskatoon owner brain sport he he he wants me he's the reason i want to keep running at times because he's that's how i want to grow up like you talk to this guy business or just humble he ran his whole life and you can see how it changed him so saskatoon always big sick you know what

any race dude any charity race fundraise just no more virtual races they're boring for me okay One event. If you could DJ one event. Headliner Mikey Devs in town. It's already been done. I know I missed it. That's bullshit. Cody Mazz's wedding.

Cody Mazz's wedding. I don't know what Cody Mazz's wedding is going to be like. It's 400 DJs. And lights. All fights all fighting over the DJ move. And just a lot of lights, a lot of lights. One event that I could DJ. Coachella would be dope.

Like, because you got diverse, like, that's my game. I would play indie, electronic, rock, pop, hip hop, you name it. Like, I could actually DJ to the crowd because everyone, they're super open-minded for, because every stage performer is different. Travis Scott walks out, you know, Calid rocks out, this person walks out, Stevie Oakey walks out, you know, Beyonce walks out, then Mumford and Sons walk. You know what I mean?

Like, it's just super open-minded. So if I had to choose, like, a real mainstream one, probably be Coachella. It's really mainstream, I know, and it's kind of sackedy. But I like little, intimate ones, but Coachella, sure. I like music. Who's one song, artist, whatever you want to play it off as that you're currently listening to? Man, I love Mumford and Sons.

Mamprenant Sons? Dude, I just love them. They're like my go-toe all the time. Whenever I want to listen, somebody I fucking throw mummer. for a turn sense and then i throw Travis scott on it's i'm really weird but then i'll throw like kill switch engaged on i'm just all over i am literally all over the map well you run as much as you do you're gonna have to be yeah yeah you have to be weird how about your final one uh you've mentioned reading a bunch of different books what is maybe a book you look back on as being very influential on

your life. So this is a funny story. Before this year, didn't read any books. I hate reading. I hate reading. You just said you're fucking engineer and hate it. Okay. Engineering has one English class. That's why we take it. Man, I cat, K-A-T. Like seriously, you should see my spelling. Everyone makes fun of me. I have people that have proofread everything I do. I got a, you know, wife proofreads everything. I got a girl at work that's just she can't handle it so she proofreads everything for me before I send stuff out. Okay. Because it's, I just, I'm like thesis built. Just, no commas, no nothing, just go, uh, where, where, where, I don't know to spell any of them. So then in your short time of reading, what is your favorite book then? Uh, you know what Gagans

that dope book can't hurt me and it was about like how he was just beat up and did you listen to or did you read it read it you have to know you got to listen to it well it's because he has like those intermission podcasts you got to listen to it now you have no idea what you're missing I know but that was that was it was a kind of book I needed to read read I get it I get it but now you could listen to it yeah and Gagons breaking in and just like laying it oh man that was a fan that's a fantastic book oh it is and it's the first book I read when I got into reading. Have you, obviously you listened,

how did you stumble upon Goggins? Was it Joe Roe? Canita, I told her, you know what, honey? So I used to smoke, and I quit smoking like eight years ago on the nose. Like I just said, I'm done. Like cigarettes? Yeah, done.

And I never touched him again. I still have the pack on my dresser. Same pack, eight years, nine years now. Yeah, nine years. There's a date on it. This year, Christmas hit, I said, Baby, I'm reading. She goes, okay, we'll see.

buys me a book, pitting in every night. Slowest, she's laying in bed, I'm laying in bed, all I can hear is, like, as she's flipping pages as she reads, here's me. It was probably painful for her. Because I read every word. You know how many wives? Maybe husbands for all I know.

Wives, though, are pissed at David Goggins. Oh, for sure. When I listen to him on Joe Rogan, I could have ran through a brick wall. I remember listening to it. Nothing could stop me. It makes you want to go conquer the world. It makes you, dude, look at what you do it.

The no excuse is, the David Goggins, like, listen, you're fooling yourself. Now that we talk about that, I'd like to interview him. David Goggins would be an absolute beast. I would just, he'd come in, I'd tear my shirt off and let's go. Let's go run. And he'd be like, yeah, let's run 80 miles. Okay, no, I was thinking like a quick 16 with Sean. Who, who, there was a comedian or an author, who was it, who had David Goggins come live with him for a month.

Do you know what I'm talking about? He wrote a book on it and he was on Joe Rogan, I'm pretty sure. And the first night, or the first time they're at the gym, he looks at him and he goes, all right, do 300 pull-ups. And he's like, I can't do 300. And he goes off on him about the word can't. and they end up being there for like, I don't know, it was like 12 hours, and he gets 300 pull-ups done, right? He's like, see?

And then it was like day three, and there's this giant snowstorm outside. Nobody's outside. They're directed not to go outside, and Cockkins goes, okay, let's go for a run. He's like, you're talking about it? Like, they're telling us to stay inside. Perfect time to run.

And so they go and run out in this storm. That's my dude. Oh, man, he is his life. Him and Joe Doza, man, the guy that created a Spartan race. says those are my dudes yeah well he got some shit though over COVID did he yeah he got shipped out like 19 kids to his like ranch and put him through like bud seal training so one of the things uh what he had a bunch of i listened to it he had a text from parents but one of the kids said the dad goes

how's your day and the kid responds this is torture and the dad goes tell me something good that happened Dad's like super dad, right? Tell me something good that happened. Nothing. I hate you and mom while you're at home on our nice couch watching TV. You are torturing your son physically and mentally. I'll never be the same person. That's what the 15-year-old replies back.

Dad goes, sure something awesome happened today. He goes, Joe made us sit in a river for 15 minutes, a freezing cold river. If anyone cried, the clock reset. Joe had six-year-olds to 18-year-olds altogether doing this. As soon as someone cried, clock restarted. Can you imagine being a tort?

Dude, if I had a kid, gone. Joe, here's my little one, guy, girl, let's go. You're telling me you've got a six-year-old, you're sending them to that? At the end of it, those kids said they came out better humans. Because they didn't know what pain was anymore. Or the The Terminator.

No, they came out little monsters during a pandemic. So my kid now, when something happens to me, they're a fighter. They're going to survive, you know? Not saying I would put my kid in my. Canita would be like, oh, hell. That'd be like. Let's see what Canita says about this. I can't wait for you to hear that go.

Hell no. No, she'd be like, fuck, this is my mic. Like when we have kids, they're like other Sean's kids, can't come overplay with mics because like, hey, what are you guys doing today? What my guy gets you guys up to? Well, I want to thank you for hopping on. We've been going, the cleaning crew. I see the lights have come on.

That must mean the cleaning crew has finally showed up. But thanks for hopping on, Bigfell. I was, you know, we finally got to make it happen after I got to hop on yours. Well, no, this has been a lot of fun. It has been good, dude. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Yeah, absolutely.

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