Shaun Newman Podcast - Ep. #126 - Bros Roundtable #6

Episode Date: October 28, 2020

Brothers back at it. We discuss bubble sports, Mike Smith remaining an Oiler, Lebron James, Baseball playoffs and a whole bunch more. Sit back, pour a cold one & enjoy Let me know what you think   Text me! 587-217-8500

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The golden child, the bird man, the engineer, and the big man. Here's another Newman brother roundtable. So buckle up. Here we go. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast, joined in studio, by the brothers. Before we get anywhere, let's talk about last roundtable.

We had the bet who's going to have the most points in the NHL playoffs. By no means did I exactly do well, but I did well enough to not get last. I think when that bet was made, I laughed at Harley out loud because you took McDavid and Harley took dry saddle. And I said, I don't know why.

There's no way you're getting ahead of Sean, so you're an idiot. And I think I was right. So we bought a bottle of McClawns and here we said. I sure like it. By the way, I ended up winning with Kutrov. Yeah, but nobody cares about that. It's about being not the loser, right, Halls?

Not the loser. That's right. So nobody cares about the winner. You don't need to worry about that. Moving on. Well, cheers, boys. It's happy to have you back in the studio again. These are always, well, I laugh.

I feel like in 20 years we're going to be older guys. We're going to hear these and be like, man, we're morons. but it's a lot of fun. Thanks for having us. You think we'll be sitting in an old folks home somewhere? Hopefully in 20 years I can still hear. It's a long ways down the road. You do have a lot more practice talking.

Yes. I got lots to say, I guess. Well, lightning win the cup. Actually, let's start with the two bubble leagues, right? You had the NHL in the bubble, and you had the NBA in the bubble. What did you think of bubble sports? Didn't care for it, to be honest with you.

I know that the NBA, the viewership, was way down, way down. Like, going into the finals, I think they were down 46% going into the finals. I'm not sure what it ended up being at, but that tells you something right there. the NHL for me you get four months of the year where you're not confined to being inside and you can enjoy the weather and being outside

is it four months? Do we actually get four months? Boy, that's a lot. That's pushing it. Yeah. So... My kids are pissed the other day when it started snowing out. Yeah. So for me I was very ho-humed the NHL season you know, playoff playoff wise because I definitely did not follow it near as much as I have in previous years, right?

So, you know, the lightning win, and that's great, I guess. I don't know. I would say not having fans in the stands. Just doesn't make for as good an ambiance to the whole thing. Yeah, but do you at least give them some credit for pulling it off? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely.

I didn't think they'd actually make it all the way through. I thought they'd have a COVID outbreak and that'd be it. They actually made it through. They got it done. I'm impressed with that. It's just different when there's no fans. Kind of something similar to what's going on in the NFL right now, right? Where you got guys and then whole teams and then now they're pushing stuff weeks.

And, you know, like, it's a bit of a mess, right? But that's kind of what I half expected going into the NHL playoff season. It didn't happen to all the credit in the world to them and the NBA. Yeah. I mean, COVID's so serious that every player in baseball and football that have got it, I'm still waiting for them to come out and say how someone's in critical condition or ICU. Is in the hospital? You know, well, remember they talked about the Marlins.

There was 18 of them or something, right? And it's such big news and they're blowing it up. Well, that's what we talked about last time, I think. Right. It was the 18 Marlins. And you never heard a word about them coming back to the lineup. Well, and I'm sure if there's one in the hospital, you would have heard about it. Oh, 100%.

We're shut down the world. I don't know. Can we talk then? On that note, right? The NFL right now, you got to, you got to, you got to, the coaches get fine because they weren't wearing their face mask. And so then you watch them. In their own private suite with nobody else in the suite.

That was the owner. That was the owner. That was Major League Baseball. And so, anyways, they got coaches, I keep up my hand in front of Matt, and then I realize they can't talk.

Anyways, so they got, you watch football games right now, all the coaches have them on, all the supporting staff have them on, but then like 50 players all stand around, don't have anything on, and they're running around hitting each other.

I want to meet the, you know who I think she should get on a podcast, is who makes these rules. Like who is the actual guy at the top that makes these rules? Like, does anybody watching this? It's ridiculous. As if them coaches after the game, all don't go sit in some room, have a beer,

look over the video film, talk about it, right? I mean, the master there just for show. It's a piece. It's performance theater. Oh, that's disgusting. And the best part, my favorite part, I can't even remember what game I was watching, and who knows, maybe they've corrected it after it happened.

So you got the huddle, right? quarterback sitting there talking to his guys. And then the guy comes in, the water bottle squirder, right? And he squirts it in a couple guys' mouths with the mask on and they got no mask on. He's squirting it. I'm like, well, that's just, that right there defeats the entire, what is going on here? Right? Like, okay, you got the mask.

Okay, whatever. That doesn't really make sense. But, you know, for the most part, whatever, my brain carries on. But when he starts squirting water and everybody's mouths, what is that about? That makes no sense. Hey, every kid on our initiation team had their own water bottle as of three years ago. NFL players don't do that, though. I guess not.

I guess not. Maybe they, I don't know. But I guess it is getting squirted. They're not second on the lid like the initiation kids do. I mean, we can beat this to death because it's just all over the place. But with the bubble thing, so I know that teams did it for TV contracts, stuff like that. How? Like, could they do it again next year?

Is there a point where the NHL would, run out of money or can they do it forever as long as they got big enough TV contract? I just don't have the answer. Oh, TV contracts got to be big enough to make it work, right? Well, the thing with it all then is is everybody's salaries would just start decreasing, right? I mean, that's the whole point of having a salary cap. Like they did this year. Right.

And there's no indefinitely sure, but the cost of doing business would go way down. The problem is that the CFL probably won't restart. That's the risk you run, is your league goes. defunct because you go bankrupt. You don't think they're talking like it's it's going to go bankrupt. Right. Wow. Yeah.

That's the risk you run. Yeah, okay. I get that. Do you think that when things go back to normal will some owners get together now it might not be a nine team league. It may be six or something, but do you think it gets back rolling? Yeah, there would be. The other thing too is, I mean, people have flirted around with the idea of having a B league

for all the for NFL right where you know essentially you could start up another league up here and paying your guys up here and it's like a feeder system for the NFL right so if all purest hate you right now no absolutely absolutely and I get that point right but at the same time if there's no league at all they'll come up here and say hey Vancouver Toronto Montreal I would think that it'd probably get restarted at some point it has to right I don't know there's been things in the past it didn't Strange times, Dust. Money talks, right?

So when you go back to Just TV, I don't know. They need people in there buying tickets, buying merchandise, drinking way too many beers. Depends on the sport, though. NFL's TV contracts so big they could go without... NFL is the pinnacle. And you felt... And the NFL didn't shut down into a bubble.

They somehow are playing in all cities and have fans in some of them and like you just look at what the NFL's doing and you're like, how can NFL pull that off? Right? How does the NFL pull that off? I guess they're that popular they kind of make their own rules.

Kind of like some of the politicians where this is the rules for everybody else but this isn't the rules for me. I can fly back to my own constituency and go see my family on a holiday and then fly back but everybody else. No Thanksgiving for you. Yeah.

I think the NFL is that big. I think they, Kind of. I still wonder what happens after November 3rd after the election with COVID and whether things lighten up after that. How much of it is... Or intensify. I don't know.

Wow. Hey, on a side note, for the listeners, our parents butchered 25 chickens, and we, three of us, the four, one guy in here didn't show up. Some of us have to work for a living, so, you know, just... I just heard Harley was scared. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, one of us did show up on time and the other two didn't, so.

I got to eat one of those, I got to eat one of those chickens last night. You got a chicken out of that deal? I still haven't got a chicken. I went out to Mom and Dad's for supper. It was delicious. Was it really good? Yeah. Was it one of the ones I plucked?

Yeah, there was a little bit of hair left on it. Is it the one I chopped the head off? It tasted good. It tasted. So you got invited to Mom and Dads for supper for the first chicken, eh? That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Golden Child.

Yeah. Golden child for sure. Golden child. Well, I'm not the bird man. He ain't getting any. He didn't show up to do it. The guy who showed up there the longest shirt didn't get invited for the first chicken supper. Just not a lot of appreciation for the guy cutting the heads off.

Yeah, that's true. Dirtiest job. Somebody's got to do it. They still got blood on my boots from that. You know, Kobe, Kobe will hate me if I don't bring up the NBA. He's probably swearing at the radio dial right now as we do because none of us really watch the NBA that much. I watched I'll bring it up later

But I watched LeBron carry his trophies around for 10 minutes But The thing that I find so Hard for my brain That kind of comprehend is When NBA superstars win And maybe it's just LeBron Because that's the one who just happened

They like to lean and they like to And who is a Forgetting the guy who was playing And Cobes I apologize for not remember his name But they win the big game And then he just kind of leans on the the side and he's tired and all the guys come and bat him on the back and I'm like what the hell is that you just won a game no you don't you're not tired who's tired after winning a big game I like mooky

bets and baseball he uh makes the big catch it's a home run steals a base and he is fired up like stealing bases for tacos hey did you see that oh yeah because when he stole the base everybody i think it's october 28th everybody gets a free taco from uh what's a place called not taco taco time what's the other place called taco bell Taco Bell Oh, there's a free pitch for Taco Bell. You think Moogie Betts, I'm getting at it is, why is it that... He's having a good time, Sean. One of the best players in, yeah, I know.

Hey, look, I just want a championship. I'm so tired. I'm so tired. Oh, it's hard to stand up, man. It's like, come on. There's, part of it goes back to the NBA, and you've got a handful of guys and they're stacking teams, and so it becomes...

What the hell does that have to do with... If I stack the team with the best players, I got them all. I got LeBron. I got... Sounds like the dusty man right now. Yeah. Well, we can't get to Sunday, so...

I'll answer this question. Basketball players are wusses, and that includes Kobe Mann. I think that is the answer to the question you're just asking. Is there just wusses? Did anybody watch the Lakers win the championship? I did, yes.

And I just, for me, it just blew me away because I watched Lightning win. And so, A, you got Stamka's out there who's played five shifts the whole playoffs. You know, did score a goal, but, you know, he goes up there and gets the cup. He turns around, probably lifts it up for two seconds, hands it to the next guy, who hands it to the next guy, who hands it to the next guy, then they all gather around, get a team pitcher and that's the whole team. And in the NBA, LeBron won the MVP, and then they had him the trophy.

And he talks for five minutes, congratulating the other guy that was the good. good player, like they had more than one good player on the team, but he congratulated one other guy. And then while the other guy was talking, he grabbed his MVP trophy and the NBA championship trophy, one in each arm, and walked around with it for like 10 minutes. It was the craziest thing I seen. It was like the rest of them didn't exist. And they said, Rondo is one of the best point guards in the NBA. It doesn't get mentioned. Nobody cares. There's no team pitcher. I just, I feel like I'm missing something there. You know, think of back to like NHL. What really strikes me, you remember when Douggy Wait won with Carolina,

and his shoulder was buggered, and he carried around the Stanley Cup with a buggered shoulder, and he could hardly lift the freaking thing. But he lifted it, and he skated around for his two minutes. Whereas if you're in the NBA and you're on the bench, you just get to look at LeBron carry him around. Jimmy Butler, before we hop any further, because Colby's sitting there swearing at the thing. Jimmy Butler was a guy from Miami Heat, and I was thinking of, he was talented. He played his bag off. I bet you Jimmy Butler, for me, I'm not saying it's every NBA guy because the Toronto Raptors, the year they won.

They were a team. And they did have Kauai, but they were a team. And I bet you if Jimmy Butler won, I bet he gets all that team together and his big picture. But with LeBron, it's, and I mean, the first thing LeBron's talking about is maybe everybody will show me some respect now. Show him respect. Yeah. Like, he's being talked about as one of the greatest players of all time. I don't know.

I think there'd be a lot more respect as if he'd grab the championship, over, give it to another guy. I mean, it's not like he's never won one before. If you realize that it was a bigger moment for some of the guys who this is going to be their only time and their first time instead of thinking about himself. I'm just saying it. It was totally obvious after watching the lightning versus. Ray Bork, Colorado, right?

Sackick didn't even lift the cup. He just handed it straight off to him, right? That's what you're dealing against. When you're talking about guys like LeBron, right, who, you know, And don't get me wrong, LeBron's a great player. No, no, no. No, no. The one of the great...

Top five all time. Yeah, sure. Absolutely. Guys, how many league finals has you been to? It's something... Ten. Ten. The last four teams.

With like three different teams. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You put them on your team, you go to the finals. It's pretty much what it is. What did you think? We talked a little bit about it last time.

What did you think of the extra teams getting in the NHL? Or baseball now that you see them? I love all of it. I find playoffs to be more. exciting. You love to see, A, the more games, the more opportunities for them,

for more teams. I don't, I understand the argument that the regular season means nothing, so I'm not saying that all 32 baseball teams get in the playoffs. But it is nice to see,

I mean, I can remember when there was, wasn't it just, the two division winners played each other, and then there was a World Series? You're a little bit older than the rest of us, Jay, so.

You know, I tried calling him on, actually, I believe that's how much. It was. Dave Roberts. Dave Roberts. We started this off with whether Dave Roberts was on the 2004 Boston Red Sox. Now, baseball fans are laughing at me because they probably all go, yeah, of course he was. But for the rest was, the manager of the Dodgers right now is going, what? Not a chance.

Of course, we look it out and we're wrong. So you know what, Jay, you're probably right. Well, I just remember. Probably the last time that happened was when Jay was two, but he still remembers it. No, I'm just saying, like, the baseball is slowly expanding. I mean, it used to be ridiculous. you'd have 162 games and hardly anybody make the playoffs. And the playoffs are the most exciting.

I enjoyed your interview with Tim McAuliffe, and he brought up for nobody who knows what that is. Tim and Sid, Tim. But he was saying, right, the 162 games mean something if you're going to make the playoffs, right? So by having a shortened playoff window where there's only a few teams getting in, those teams have battled that far to get to this point,

where now there's only a few teams that are actually being in there, right? Compared to the NHL, right? Whatever. I mean, what? No, but whatever. So, first of all, if you still have four teams on each division making it, you still have three or four teams not making it. You're still battling and making something.

You're still getting the right to play in the playoffs. I think that's just a number. The only thing I'll say is I enjoy the fact that every different league does it little bit differently and so there's a little bit of you know not every league does it the exact same right so I hate I hate baseball for the fact that you know how many years was Toronto going against Boston and New York and couldn't ever get past them because their payroll was outrageous right but they were they were right in the hunt all the way right till the very end and couldn't quite squeeze in, right? And so to have a bit of a playoff, that's where, you know, back in those days,

I would have loved to have seen it, right? I will say this. I think you can have too few like baseball used to have. I also think you can have too many. And with the NHL, if they go to 24 teams, is I think they have too many. You might as well hand out a participation trophy to every fucking team. Oh, fuck off with the participation trophy. You have to earn your way into the playoffs. You're talking about more than 50. You're talking about playoffs. You're talking about more than 50, percent of the teams making the playoffs, which means the regular season doesn't matter. Listen, you got a league where the difference between success and failure is like this thin little line nobody can see.

The 16th team has, well, not the 16th team, the 8th place team has won the cup like twice in the last 10 years. What the fuck are we talking about? Sure. And they have to earn their way in. You're going to have to earn your way in if you're the 24th team. What are you talking about? You're talking about three quarters of the team making the play.

You still got to battle through all the games. I'm not saying all the teams got to play all this. Why can't you have a similar thing that happened this time? Weren't you happy the first game? The Oilers and they're playing. I mean, it would have been nice. You know what? The Oilers would have been in the playoffs because they earned their way in this year.

They got to beat the Chicago Blackcocks. They were dog shit. Oh. Yeah, and they lost. And then Chicago Blackcox walked in and owned them. I don't care. I don't care for 24 of the 32 teams. It's three quarters of the teams.

I agree with dust. It's too many. So put it at 20 dust. Put it a little wild card in there. 16 is half the teams. I do find the wild card night exciting. See, I'd actually like to go to 20 and then have like a one game take-all

to get into the playoffs. And the bottom four, so your seven, eight, play the nine, ten, winners hop in and away you go. How does that? Just talk about 24. Like, how about this? Wouldn't this be interesting? So what do you want, Sean, 24 or 20?

I want more teams in. I don't like. Why we just do all 32? Listen, in baseball... Why don't? In baseball, probably wouldn't work. There's only 31 right now, Dust. In baseball, it wouldn't work.

Because in baseball, you got, with no salary, or limited salary cap, what the hell they're calling it. Electric tax? Thank you. You got teams that are just way better and way worse. But in the NHL. I'd love to see Detroit and all of have a playing game.

They're, like, what are you talking about? What I'm saying is, why do you stop at... Why do you stop at 24? Why don't you go all 32? Oh, maybe we should go to 8 then. Just have the top 4. Like I said, half the teams is about right. That's the way it's been.

It works pretty well. Who invited this guy? Pretty sure you did. I'm going to silence his mic here pretty quick. I know. I'm with you, Sean. I like 20. I understand where dust is coming from.

You don't want too many, but I think it'd be exciting. And so I think it does reward the top teams because they don't got to play in that one game. I think it would be exciting. Why even half a regular season? Just have playoffs. Every team make it.

No, no, no. A lot of your regular season is still going to your bottom. You're going off to deep end. You're trying to stir it. And you're stirring pretty hard right now. I'm saying knock off 10, 15 regular season games. Go down to like a 60, 65. And now you end a little early.

Now you add in a couple playoff rounds. It doesn't matter if Emmington's not going to get past first round. We're in the playoffs? You're kidding me? The place is going to go nuts. It's a wildcard game. Man, the place is going to go ap shit. And then you,

got viewership, it sells to the NHL, it sells to across the world because it's a one game winner. Tell you what, you don't get fans in the stands and it's not going to matter. How much did you tune in when number 24 was playing number whatever this year and it started at 10 in the morning? Everybody says, in our area,

everybody says their favorite games with the 10 in the morning. It was like, man, I was sitting work, flicked on the screen, or I was Saturday afternoon. Without COVID on, you're not going to have a 10 o'clock in the morning, Tuesday game. I don't know. Maybe that's part of the wildcard weekend. Maybe you have a wild car weekend and way we go. Hey, if you want to do in the wild card, you got the same amount of

games as your regular 16 first round and you could do it that way anyhow. I think what you're trying to say is there's so many teams that are so close in points that having that play in is not going to affect that much because there's so many teams that are so close to making it. So to, you know, compromise on both of your sides. If there is a differential of more, greater than five points or 10 points. I don't know what the number is. There's no plan. But if there's so many, you're getting it too far now.

Harley wants to do a nickname. We're going to start calling the mediator. You take the percentage of the points of the eight place team compared to the points. It could be exciting to us. It could be exciting. Five percentage points. Maybe you don't have the plan. It could be exciting dust.

Who's the engineer here? Anyhow, aren't I the numbers guy? Anyhow. Carry on. I don't know. Some days we wonder, dust. Well, sometimes I want to go 50-50. You're talking numbers, dust. 50-50. Let's go to the NHL offseason. Can we go to the NHL off season? Can we get dust off this all 32 teams making after my life? Who are the winners and losers? Who do you think in the off-season? season. Maybe he had a best signing, worse signing. I love the trade that Columbus got Max Domi for Josh Anderson. I mean, Anderson hardly was even playing for Columbus. They're making the playoffs.

And now they've just added a guy that legitimately could be a 60-point guy. How did Josh Anderson get that contract? I have no idea. That is way too much money for way too long for what Josh Anderson is. You know, I liked a lot of what Montreal did, but I really don't understand that contract. That boggles my mind. I know. I saw it came across the ticker and I'm like what the

you know what's a funny thing about Montreal is you look at that team and you go you know yeah everybody's talking oh yeah they've improved they're going to be this tough team right they're like a year removed from being oh god look at that lineup with that much money and you know Gallagher injured half the time and Kerry Price injured and Shea Weber's 40 just to poke my my in here and Josh Anderson still a 10 goal guy Josh Anderson signed a massive seven-year 38.5 million dollar contract. Like, why seven year?

5.5 every year per season. How do you sign that guy to seven years? It boggles my money. In fact, with COVID going on, I don't know how you sign anyone long term. I don't know how they signed Markstrom and Calgary for that long. No, I understand. It's just that with the goal 10.

And he's a decent goal 10. You think you're going to have him. Yeah. Same with Leonard, right? But I just don't see him sign him for that long. And just to give the audience a bit more understanding of why everyone's so hard on Josh Anderson because if you just think of the guy he's the big forward up and coming power forward yeah that's right yeah and two years ago we played 82

games played every single game had 27 goals 20 assists for 47 points last last year in 2019 20 he played 26 games the goal three assists for four points and before the 47 point game? He played 63 games, 19 goals, 11 assists, and the year before he had 17 goals. So how do you give him that long of a contract? A lot of money for a guy that's a, you know, probably a 20, 25 goals guy that stays healthy. Maybe he has like an ego problem and the coach in Columbus, you know, and just beat him up. Torrella or something.

Wouldn't be the first time Totorella has done that. Yeah, true. Tororella does some good things to some players, but I think with the certain type of guys, they can't handle his style of, you know, in your face kind of. Okay, so I got a question about, because we're talking about Bergervon, who's the GM for Montreal, right? Yeah. You know, everybody beat him up when he picked up Shayweber.

Sure. Right? Because of the amount of years versus the term, right, versus P.K. Yeah. I was one of them. Anybody beating him up for that trade anymore? No. It actually turned out right.

No, because we'll look at where P.K.'s going. Yeah. And that's no, no. I mean, and I don't blame him for the Drewann versus Sergachev, I mean, he gave up a great piece in Sergachev, but I know what he was trying to do. I mean, Duran was a third overall pick who's a native of Quebec, right? So I

understand that one. He just goes and signs his heart and soul Gallagher. You know, he's got the best goalie, one of the top five goalies still in the eight. Gallagher was after Anderson, though, too, right? The thing I don't get is with Anderson the year

he's come him off of, there's no way you should, his camp should be able to demand that much term and that much money. Yeah, I don't, I don't understand it. I agree with you. You should be able to get them for cheaper than that. Actually, one of the best signs I thought was the Oilers getting buried for three and, what was

a 3.75 or something? Three and a half for the year. I actually really like what the Oilers did outside of Smith. Yeah, and my argument for Smith is I think the Oilers were looking at some other goalies. They just happened to sign everywhere else. I think that they thought. Calgary outbid him for Markstrom. So you're just saying you didn't like that contract.

No, no, it's far too long. And so Emmeton was bidding in on Markstrom and didn't go there. So Hallam made a good move there in your mind. Well, because if they had gotten Markstrom, we'd all be talking like we are both the Canadians and Anderson. You ready to give Markstrom what the Flames game? From what I was under the understanding is Eminton thought that they had Markstrom,

and so that was the only goalie that they were going after. And so that's by the time that they realized they were out, a lot of them, other goalies were already gone, or they didn't really want them. And I agree with you, 100%. center halls i guess the other thing i want to point out though you know was talbot a big upgrade over mike smith we've had talbot okay that big of an no no here's the thing is thomas greece they talk about grace playing at the stats for mike smith last year and you look at the top 62 goalies or whatever it is

for last year he was one of the bottom out of all the starters and backups and he turns 39 this year there's no way there's any upside to him left and there's no way you should resign that guy and when you go well who should we have signed i don't care no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no No, no, no, that's a legitimate question. You can say, don't care. Let me finish. Let me finish because I'm not done. I would sign the top goal.

I don't care if you're not done. I don't got to let you finish. But anyways. Let me finish. Mike Smith should not be coming back. You can sign the top goal goalie out of the KHL. You can sign the top goalie out of the Swedish Elite League. You sign someone.

I love a guy. I love a guy making decisions for your team who doesn't know who he's going to sign, but he's not going to sign that guy. There's no way Mike Smith should be on your radar. How did the others do last? here. Just to ask him. Was it Mike Smith that got him there? You forget you've got two the top players in the game.

The goal tenor didn't help. I tell you what. How about this? How about this? You want to sign the top goalie of the KHL? He just buries the judge. Okay. Koskenen is better than Mike Smith,

and Koskenen wasn't even the top goalie in the KHL. He was one of the top goalies. He was number two. So you want to bring over KHL goalie? Sure. How long ago did Koskeninan come over? Yeah, Koskinin was not bad right from the get-go, quite honestly. And how many games did he play? Not very many.

So now you're talking- You got a number one goal in Koskenen right now. Okay, so you got a number. So now Mike Smith's your backup. You know what you're getting with him. You know he's good with the guys. He brings some professional. He's not good.

He's a backup goalie. He's not good. You signed a backup goalie dust. Jimmy Howard didn't win a game last year. Did you know that? Well, I didn't say signed Jimmy Howard because he's not any good either. What I'm saying is, you're better off presidents? But bring some names to the table.

No, no. What I'm saying is if you're going, your scouting staff should be looking at different places and you need to find a younger guy for a year because Mike Smith is done. I'll tell you what. Here's absolutely done. He's not going to help his team. This is why. Okay. Okay.

You've had your point. Go ahead. Thank you. So the reason I don't get upset about Mike Smith is because, A, the term, the value for him, it's not like, If the way I look at things is somewhere down the road here, they're probably going to wind up trading and getting a goalie. And now Mike Smith is a third string goalie. You can sit them in the stands.

And really, what have you really given up? You know, a couple million for a guy that. Why did they sign them to two million? Was there anybody else bidding on them? I'll agree it does. He retires if you don't sign them. I think they may be overpaid for Mike Smith, which is weird to say because it's like,

You probably could have got them for a million bucks. I don't know. Like, who's taking them? But I don't know the inside conversation. What I will agree with Jayon. Like, so you had Markstrom. Did you want them by six by six? Did you really want Markstrom six by six?

I already told you I don't. Okay. So then you go down the list and you go, okay, so who did you get next? The problem is. The problem is. Robin Lanner? The problem? Okay, this is the problem.

I would have liked Mark Andre Fleury. I've made my point on that a hundred times now. Right. That a nice trade for Mark Andre Fleur would have fit. And then what happens? Robin Lenders hurt. Now Mark Andre Fleurs is to start a goalie. The problem you have is this,

is if you have a player who's at the bottom of the league, meaning that he is actually hurting your team, and he's old and he's not going to improve, you have to go out and find someone else. And I don't care if the top goalie of the KHL or a goalie of the KHL or a goalie of the Swedish Elite League or the top goalie of the HL, you find a guy. What's the benefits of signing Mike Smith?

Do you know what else? There is none. Yeah, there is. What? He's good in the room? One, you only sign him for one year. Sure. So you didn't limit yourself.

Two, you're arguing to your death over a backup goalie. He's going to play 30 games. No, he's not, because it's going to be a short in season. The problem you've got is your head coach loves him. Listen, he's not going to be your starter. He's going to be your backup. They're talking about a 48 game season. They're talking about him starting between 12 and 15 games.

So you're losing your mind over something where Ken Holland went, hey, you know what? The top guys went. I didn't get them. The bottom guys are there. I know what I'm getting in Mike. He's not going to hurt my dress room. He's professional.

And it's only a one year deal. And next year we can move on. And we can see how the year Koskin has. It's 12 games dust. It's 12 games. Sometimes you make more mistakes by trying to push. To go get the top guy from the KHL, guess what?

You got to sign him to two or three or four years. What's going to happen in a year? Well, in a year, you're going to have more options again. You've got to find something else. Just go out there and say, well, we've got Thomas Grease because he's better in Smith. Well, they talked about Greece. playing under Trots with the island,

Trots has a very good reputation for having the top goaltending coaches. And so his goaltenders always played better under him. And if you notice when Trots left Washington, Braden Holby struggled. And they were talking about that. So, you know, I agreed with you guys where I would love for them to have picked up somebody.

I agree with Sean Flurry would have been awesome because he would have had a burr under his saddle. A burr in his saddle. And he's a fun-loving guy that everybody loves having around. And that's what the team needs. They're a little light-hearted. I agree. Even at his age, he's a stud.

Like a guy comes in, he can win you some hockey games. Got it fit. He just plays in Vegas, same division, and everybody keeps telling me they wouldn't trade them, and it's like two-end-duty. Go ahead, finish it. So I'm going to go to the next step, because here's another guy you love.

So they just signed Chris Russell for an extra year. Yeah, that one. Right? You know what I don't actually mind that. But do you know why they signed Chris Russell? So they can open them up to the expansion draft. Right, because they have to leave somebody open up with so many games played.

And they paid them up. about what he's worth. So I actually don't have a problem with the deal. I had a problem when they signed him four for four because that was too much money for him. Right, but they only got a year left of it. Yeah. So I'm just saying, I think Ken Holland,

what I like about Ken Holland is if he made, so he made some mistakes last year, right? Granlin didn't work out, no check didn't work out, right? They didn't work out. But you know what? He didn't sign him to Josh Anderson seven years. No, absolutely. He didn't sign him.

So if the worst mistake he made this year is bringing back Mike Smith, who goes two and 10 in the 12 games, that's the worst mistake he made. And they're not including three years. But I'll be honest, I mean, with a shortened season like that, my guess is, is if he starts off struggling like that, you're going to just see Costco and run with it. The other thing, too, is it's not like the rest of Eminton is stagnant, right?

They brought in tourists. They brought in some of these other guys. I think they're the Oilers have gotten better. Or we move on to everyone else because I like everything else. Holland did a fantastic job. Let me finish on Mike Smith. I got one more comment on this, is if a guy, you know, you talk about it. you know you know him he's in the dress room whatever if a guy isn't helping your team anymore

and he's not he's 39 this year and he was not good last year if that is the case let me finish harley if that is the case you miles ago look for another guy who can go in that role if even if he's a complete unknown because the complete unknown guy could turn out to be the guy next year Whereas next year, you know Mike Smith is not in the picture, which means you're going to have to go find a guy anyhow. You might as well take a lottery pick from somewhere and bring him in and see if it works out. Because he's not going to be any worse than Mike Smith.

Can I just say this? Everybody's ragging on Mike Smith pretty hard. He started in the playoffs for us this year. That was a problem because he's not good enough. What are you talking about? I remember thinking Mike's you missed. Probably smart. Probably start.

He looked pretty good. And then he dropped the ball in the first game. And you went, well, that's another reason. why I don't like him is because the head coach still has thoughts of him from back in Phoenix when he was at the top of this game. I'm just telling you what that had nothing. Like, what are you talking about? What I'm saying is TIPA remembers him from his best days.

Sure. Sure. So he has a higher opinion of him. He has a higher opinion of him than he actually is at this moment. As a fan watching the games, I don't got a prior relationship to Arizona. I watched him when he should probably start. He did start. And then he dropped the ball and you went, eh, he probably shouldn't start.

Right? That's what I'm saying. But you know what? The Oilers won game, too. Yeah, that's right. It was a 1-1 series. It had nothing to do with Mike Smith after that. That's true.

No, I'm just saying he's not helping the team anymore, and he's 39. You might as go take a lottery ticket on someone else who has a shot because you never know when you're going to find the next Dominic Hasick laying around. If this is the worst thing that's happened to the Oilers this year, we're okay. Can we move on that because I do like the rest of the Oilers signs? Well, Tyson Barry was a brilliant sign, right? Nice. You want to talk short?

I heard, I want to say John Shannon. I'll give John Shannon a plug. I think it was John Shannon say the nice thing you're seeing out of Holland was he signs Barry to one year. And instead of bringing him in for like six years, where now you're locked in and you don't know the guy. You don't know whether he's Mike Smith in the dressing room or not, right? It's going to be a great guy. Hey, don't knock the dress room. That's all I got left in my career.

That is the truth. You got Tyson's Barry. He's got something to prove. It's a short contract. I mean, if it had been $8 million, we all would have said, it's only one year. Like, who cares? So the money, you know, is a small amount, in my opinion, for what they're doing. But at the end of the day, you get to test drive the car.

You get to bring them in. Here's a guy who can run your power play unit, number one. Play with McDavid, dry stuff. What if they just absolutely light the lamp? And he looks unbelievable. And then you're going to afford them next year? Well, maybe. Or maybe at the trade deadline, you trade them.

No, no. I mean... I like the deal. I really do. I think they do like the lamp. I think Barry's going to be better on that power playing cleft bomb. Oh, 100% better. And they're all talking that, you know, because it was the number one power play in the league,

it can't be any better and it's going to go down. But I actually don't think it will. I think it'll, I know it should go down and all the reasons it should go down, but they're bringing everybody back and they're replacing cleft bomb with Barry. That wasn't even Holland's best move in this offseason. Pooley-Arvey was by far. He did not trade him for nothing. And Pooley-R-V could still turn out to be nothing.

He could still trade him for not a lot. lot, but Pooley-Arvey still has the biggest upside of anyone they sign. He's young. He signed him for essentially nothing for a couple years. And if he doesn't work out and they have to trade him or send him down, no big deal. But if he does turn around and end up scoring 40 or 50 points, that's absolutely massive. So Pauley-R-Ve comes out and then the first, we're talking 48-game season, so in the first 24 games, he's got 15 points. Do you trade them? Wow. I don't think so. Why would you? I don't know. I'm just asking. Do you trade them? The thing is, he's got 20 points in the first 24 games.

Do you trade? The value will be there. That's what I'm saying. Well, the value will be there? But that's what I mean. I'm not saying trading for nothing. But if all of a sudden, he's got 10 goals in the first 30 games, you know, whatever it is, right? He's on pace for 25, 30 goals.

I tell you what, if he meshes it all, like I'm guessing he starts on the third line. But if he meshes it all with McDavid or Drysell, you're not trading the guy because he's not cheap. I don't. The rule is. The Apollo Drew N kind of deal, right? Where he tried to do the same thing. and then Drewan came back, started playing really good. And everybody thought, oh, he's here for long term,

and all the door he went, and you went, oh, you don't do that in Tampa. Yeah, right. That's what I think. I think if they can get him going and they get him on a pace of a 25, 30 goal pace, and they can flop them for a. Okay, sure. If you can get decent value of it, sure. But I don't know.

Well, it's been the knock on the Oilers forever. They never, they always sell when they're in the bottom, right? Well, I tell you what. They got no options. they did that, it was still the best deal that Hall made all summer. 100%. Because he brought in a guy that just walked it. Turrus was a nice deal.

There is a nice deal. The one guy I wish they signed. Taylor Hall? No. Actually, I think that was probably the best deal throughout the entire thing. Let me finish the law this year first. The one guy I was hoping they signed was Miko Koiu. Because I thought he would be a good fit for dressing room, veteran, two-way

player hardworking you know he were old but I thought he worried about a skating no I know I just thought he'd be a the guy I don't like the guy I wanted them to sign was Cody Eakin yeah a little more sandpaper you know he's in Vegas to to the to the run it's down the couple final run there I'm just a big meiko coivo ain't far off about old Mike Smith for age that he does meiko Koivu guy just about fell over the table he's 37 yeah I know and he had a better year. All I heard about Mike Smith, he's 39.

He's 39. He's dog shit. No, no, no. But he was awful last year, Sean. Miko Kovu was all right last year. He wasn't spectacular. He was right last year. Four goals, 17 assists, 21 points.

He was lights out. Hey? What did the Oilers third and fourth line centers put up? And remember, Miko Kovu at least has a defensive bone in his body, too. Oh, let's add another Riley Cheyenne to the mix. Maybe he can score five. Yeah, Miko Koiw. Koibu is Riley Shea.

So I think Taylor Hall was the best signing out of it all, only because you take one of the worst teams in the league, and by adding Taylor Hall, they might be a middle of the pack type team. Well, actually, you look at their top six now because they added Eric Stahl. So now they got Stahl and Ikel down the middle. They added Taylor Hall. They re-signed Sam Ryan Hart. They've got Jeff Skinner there.

like they're starting to put together something where you go hmm yeah and then he got cody eakin right now he's you know little sandpaper in the third line and my guess is he's going to score four goals this year maybe me and dust should put something on that Cody egan yeah i think Cody scores four he matches meiko Taylor hall do well in buffalo i agree i think Taylor hall if he doesn't get injured i think Taylor hall could have one of his best years because he's only on a one-year deal so he's got lots to prove and Eichel is tired of losing and they are going to run the table. According to Graham Murray though, Buffalo has got to be one of the worst shit cities out of the entire league. Like he said, there is nothing going on in Buffalo.

Okay, well, shout out to Brian's Wawa because I went there for his wedding. Buffalo was the first city that I went. Oh, like industry is just left. They just got... It's a city where you drive through or you go on the boat on the outside and you're cruising the waterfront and it is like big giant warehouses

that are all bad. Like it's... What Lloyd Miss is going to look like in five years now it's snow with... Kind of almost... Isn't it there already? It isn't there. It can always get worse, dust.

Don't go down that road. Kind of like Detroit. Detroit's very much the same way, right? They had 65 skyrises, I think, that were all abandoned back in the... 70s or something like that and they're all still standing, right? Like, it can get worse.

It can always get worse. I think the 90s. 90s? Wait, we bring up Cenovis. Do you want to talk about that or not? Sure, fire away. Well, long term. Is that a bad thing now?

Well, you know, I guess long term we're just going to find out, right? I don't know if anybody knows. Everybody has fear change. People fear change. Let everybody know what happens. Well, Sinovus bought out Husky. They're saying quarter one that Sinovus takes... Yeah, that's done, right?

So we're a couple... I think we're in for another round of layoffs. That's my guess. For sure we are. For sure we are. That's what hurts. And what everybody's worried about is if Sinovus runs it more out of Calgary, then you get less people working than Lloyd, right?

And you get a subtraction or two. Which... And it's not going to be the low end of the totem pole rate. It's going to be the top... paying those jobs are not here anymore right those upper echelon jobs that pay well and so those people that money is now leaving the city what's the old saying in tough times you want to be closest to the well hit yeah or a chemical rep shout out to baker how about the rest of the n hl uh i think of maybe the vagus golden nights i don't know i still don't like what they did with that

We're going to find out here in the next six months. Or, you know what I mean? Like, you know, you love Petra Angel. So did St. Louis take Krug over him just because of money? Like a million and a half a year was that? Because it's not like the only signed Kroog for two years. They signed him for seven. So what was it that was it just a million and a half bucks that they got rid of their captain,

have been with the team for 12 years and won a cup with them? And that's it. that just seems strange to me so what am I missing the funny thing about Krug too is that he's not going to fill the same role as Peter Petro Angelo no because Petro Angelo thought he was an offensive guy and Petro Angelo is kind of a two-way from the story I read Petro Angelo

had full intentions of going back to St. Louis there was no talks but he said I was fully planning on re-engaging right and and then all of a sudden out of nowhere he finds out about Krug and signed it. Here's the numbers, okay? So Tori Krug signs a seven-year deal worth $45.5 million with St. Louis Blues. That's $6.5 million per year. Petriangelo signs a seven-year deal with the Vegas Golden Knights worth $61.6 million at $8.8. You're saving yourself $2.3?

And in the cap world, 2.3 is an awful lot. See, the thing I don't get about Vegas is this is how they became successful. Was not doing that. It was exactly not doing that. And they had that they still got the team. What they did was was they found guys where they could find value, not long term, not for too big of contracts. And that's how they became successful. Almost a money ball style.

Money ball style. Absolutely. Where they look for upside. And on this deal. Well, and they played off of teams. and got, you know, they were teams. They got what they got. They were in the drive.

I felt like they were in the driver seat the entire time. And then they start making deals like this and you go, now you're playing in everybody's game. Absolutely. Because at 8.8, that's a contract. Well, they got a stone or what's he at 9.5? You can all of a sudden they're certain, you know, and you got patch ready there.

But it's patch ready at 7? Yeah. Well, and what kind of a message are you sending to your dressing room in St. Louis, right? Like now you're bringing in, you know, a young guy, but you're paying him well, but he's not going to be the same guy that Petro Angelo was. Yeah, Mark Stone is at 9.5 million, seven years left. Patriotty is at 7 million, three years left. And then, of course, the big one, Petrolyangelo 8.8.

And then your goalie tandem. And your goalie tandem now at 12 million with Mark Andre Fleury and Robin Ler for 5 mil. So now you're a hamstring. Well, I think so. That's why when we go back to who the oilers should get for a goaltender, my argument was and still is Mark Andre Fleury. That's $7 million. They need to get off.

You only got two years left, but it's in division. Now, if there's a Canadian division, all of a sudden it's not in division anymore. And all of a sudden, I like Marks, Andrew Flurry. I feel like it's just a nice little fit for the Oilers. But maybe I'm wrong on that. Yeah, you're wrong. I'm wrong, eh?

I don't know. Although my daughter would love it. And actually, she might become an oil friend if he ever played for the oilers because he's the flour. I don't know. I tend to go Sean in that one. I thought Flurry would be a great fit there. You know what? If they ate a half a salary, I would have been okay with it.

You're not eating $7 million. No. No, no, no, no. But they were going to eat $50%. $3.5 million for two years. They were going to throw in a third round pick or a second round pick. I would have taken that too. I would have taken that deal with no picks.

And all I do is they just give them to me. Just give them to me and you give me whoever you want. You know, thinking about St. Louis and- Sure. I tell you what, right now, right now, Dust, if that's what the deal was,

here's Mike Smith, we'll take Mark Andre Fleur. Sure. Thinking about St. Louis and when they won the cup, what won them in the cup that year? To me, it was their size, right? They ground on teams, right? They were a big team,

and they were heavy, and they were hard, right? You know, you look at the top three lines when they won the cup. Tori crew. Torrey Krug is not that. He is not that.

Yeah, but they don't need to have... When the Pittsburgh Penguins won the cup... They didn't even have a defenseman. That's right. They were... They had Justin Shultz. Everybody was going to have the game. Like, name their defense score when they won it all.

Justin Shultz. I think Lettang was hurt that year. Lettang, I think was hurt. They had Duma. I think Olimana. I think Oly Mata was there. Duman? Yeah, Dumlin, yeah.

Like, their Dufant's good. Was there maybe a guy like... like Ben Lovejoy or something? Ben possibly. How many of those teams, though, are going to win with a defense corps like that? Not many. There is not many.

You're also talking about your offense. You go to St. Louis and you say they won by being this. I don't know. Pittsburgh won it one way. Tampa won it this year a different way. I tell you what? Most teams have deep.

They don't have one guy. They don't have one line. They got a number of lines that can play. Why did Pittsburgh win? And a good goal ten. Three of the top players in the league playing on three different lines. I agree with Dustin here. Mike Smith probably isn't the goal I lead you to the Stanley Cup.

I'll give you that. I just still go to, though, during the season, I foresee Eminton trading to get a goalie. I still do. Mark Andre Fleury. Are we still talking about the backup goalie for the Emmington Oilers? Oh, yeah. You know what I don't understand about Vegas and Nate Schmidt?

Is I go, Peter Angelo, sure, I think he's probably better than Nate Schmidt. But Nate Schmidt was on a much lower contract and a much shorter contract. And you go back to Jay's argument about Mike Smith being in the dress room. Nate Schmidt had been there. Three years. Yeah. And you've been that close. Why the hell would you change that?

I don't know. Why the hell would you mess with that? Why would you put more money out for a guy that's a little bit better? I just like end that much longer contract. I just don't get it. I don't get it. Yeah, that's a tough one for me. Because as soon as I saw Nate Schmidt going to Vancouver.

and everybody says they won't deal in conference. I'm going, or they should pick that. Yeah, but it's not only that, not only to get rid of Nate Schmidt, but they also got rid of Paul Stasney too. Yeah. Right? Because they had to free up the cash.

So then they lost one of their main centermen, two second one center. So you lost two guys for, so it would be like trading Peter Angelo for Paul Stasney, Nate Schmidt, right? Yeah. How about Jumbo Joe? Let's, the old ageless wonder.

I like that signing. Das doesn't like too many old signings, but he likes Jem-Mod Joe. So let's... I tell you what, for one year for League Men, for a guy that can play on your power play and... He might not get four goals, but he'll get a few assists. Yeah.

Well, he was never a goal score, Jay. No, he wasn't. A little side note to all this is pretty impressed with him for going to Switzerland, who apparently he has his own passport for Switzerland, so it's actually not counted as... An import. An import. No.

But he's going over and playing for free in Switzerland until the NHL starts. That's a typical captain. For league minimum, he put up 24 points last year. That's what he did. Oh, no, no. No, that's a lie. 31 points. Seven goals, 24 assists, 31 points.

How many games? 70. Yeah. He's now a fourth line second power play guy. But in a pinch could go to, but like, with the only thing. And he was born in 79, dust. Yeah, he's old. You could be still playing in the showdust.

Yeah, wow. My bum-kney. I always used to say, as long as you're, I still had a shot. As soon as he retired, I was screwed. The only thing with, I love about bringing him in, is some more veteran leadership, right? You've got a guy that is going to help with some of your younger guys, right? Especially making league minimal.

But they had Patrick Marlowe. I actually like Jumbo Joe, but more than Patrick Marlowe. He might not been as vocal, though. Marlowe might not have been his vocal. I don't know. Do you realize that Patrick Marlowe, if he stays healthy this season, will pass Gordon-Hill for all-time's games fight? All-time's games fight.

Really? Yeah. That's why I'm pretty sure San Jose signed him. Throw him on the fourth line, plays every game. Some Mose's not going to be good again, are they? Ah, no. They rode that horse far too long. Where they got Couture, Vander Cain, LeBank,

Burns, Carlson. I mean, if Burns and Carlson never figured it out in the back end. They actually could be decent. Because they got Vlastic too. Like their back end's actually pretty solid. I don't know who their backup goalie is, though. Probably could have used Mike Smith.

They just got Dubnick. Yeah. Like they got Dubnick. And they got Martin Jones still, don't they? Yeah. No. Yeah. Isn't it?

Martin Jones and Jones. Yeah. They got actually a 1 and 1B or whatever, eh? 1A1B. Yeah. They're actually set to go. Dark horse to make the playoffs, especially if there's 24 teams to make it.

Fuck my life Let's switch to MLB for a sec here I can't remember Have we talked about Dodgers No T-Bay last night No How much fun was that

That was unbelievable Like of all the sports During this COVID Where no fans or limited fans Or whatever is going on Is baseball not been I can't speak for the player atmosphere how that feels, but is baseball not been the best to watch?

I think, but A, it's in October like it's supposed to be, so it feels natural. It feels natural. And they do have some fans in the stands, right? Because they're in Texas. So there's, I don't know, what's in there, 20,000 people or something, 15,000 people. And even that amount of people, like, it looks,

he's still got more than what Miami would normally have, right, for Marlins game. So, I mean, it's... Four times over. So, like, he still can hear. the crowd, right? I mean, for me, it's been the best. Baseball playoffs, though, it just comes with its own pedigree, right? Like, I don't know. I'm not a big baseball guy for regular season, but as soon as the playoffs start, like, it might be one of the best, right? Like, one pitch and things can change in a real hurry. And that was a perfect

a good example last night, right? Two LA's up to nothing. Guy comes up to the plate that is two for 15. His two hits have been home runs and ends up hitting a three run shot, right?

Goes three for 16, like... The game was four two. Unsung hero. Just for all the fans out there, the game was four two and he had a three run bomb. Well, yeah, fair enough. Yes, sorry. You know, the Azza

Aeros Arena or whatever his name is, right? A guy that got bought out at the start of this year, the race picked him up, he's making 90 grand this year and just set the franchise record for the most home runs in the postseason. As a rookie. Did I know on here, he's from Cuba?

Yeah. Cuba, but played up through Mexico. Yeah. And then the miners, right? Think about this. I would love to sit down with that guy. That guy's got a story. Sean Newman's career.

Mine is the sitting in the world series and all the home runs. But just the back and forth throughout that entire game, right? And then L.A. gets up by a run and you're like, there's no way, you know, the final inning. And then the schmaws that happens. And two outs. Two outs. And professional guys and you still have a bobble and you still have a misplay and you still have a guy rounding third. It does a barrel of an error.

But you still have the whole thing of what you'd. You literally... He barrel rolled! Oh my God! Oh, they missed the ball! You could be watching a Bantam game in town. Like, it was unbelievable. Well, I can't say Bantam.

What is it now? What is that? U-15 or something. Yeah, probably you. You-15. My apologies to all you Bannam players out there. Well, at least he didn't say Medget J. Or Tompum, Dewee, Adam.

No. Mr. Stansfield, Jesse Stansfield, had thrown in a question. He always talks about the discussing. is the NHL, MLB specifically, salary cap, or there's no salary cap. His question was, what would the NHL look like without a salary cap? You know what's amazing in the, like, Major League Baseball? You look at Tampa Bay and their salary is as much of the $28 million change.

The top two players, off the Dodgers, make almost as much as the whole Tampa Bay race team. And here, the R22 in the World Series. What's funny in hockey is, I actually think that it would kind of work out the same way if it was the same way where you'd have I wouldn't like lots of the bottom teams would be crap but there'd be some team in the bottom is always that team bigger it out yeah good drafting or whatever good drafting great scouting some good analytics to throw in there to mix it all up and all of a sudden they come out would say analytics thing well I'd probably not signed Mike Smith that's for sure no I wouldn't be signing Mike Smith I'd find a much better

option like the guy Azarina what was his name era erasarino eras arena yeah do you think they found him like, oh, let's bring him up. He's a big name. No, they found him somewhere and said, you know what? He actually probably has a good staff. You'd like to hear a story because he's probably backed right into, right? You know what I mean? We'll just take that guy.

No, no, that's totally... No, he had any idea. No, he is inferior. We can sign Mike Smith or this guy. Wow, Mike Smith's not the answer. Let's take a flyer on that guy and he ends up fucking hitting a whole bunch of ding-dongs. There you go. There we go.

But I think there would be the odd. It wouldn't be the oilers for sure because the others would be garbage, I'm sure. But there'd be the odd NHL team. But it used to work like that. I mean, Montreal, Toronto, New York Rangers. New York Rangers spent a time. Flyers, I want to say. Detroit, Red Wings spent a ton.

Yeah, right? I mean, back in them days, I thought Colorado and Dallas, too. That's why they were so good in the 90s, right? Because Colorado would have, they had Sackick and Forrestburg and Blake, and then they'd go pick up Bork and Patrick Waugh, and they just, right. Right? And they became one of them top six or eight teams. Patrick Waugh.

Oh, yeah, you're right. No, yeah, no, let me think about that. No, you're right. You're right. But I'm just, it bothers me. The thing about it is with baseball is the top, you know, the high spending money teams are usually close to the playoffs. Well, your high teams are usually not.

But there's the odd time where you get a guy. Little money ball with Oakland. I tell you what, the problem in baseball is that only a fraction of the teams make it. You play 162 games. You're probably smart to spend the money so you have a shot and people are going to fill the stands and buy some hot dogs. because if you dog shit all year, 162 games, who gives a crap? All right.

Apologies, Pittsburgh Pirates. Yeah, he was one of the longest serving teams of all the time. Which baseball should probably do is put about 50% of the teams in the playoffs. That would be the smart thing to do. It would be for me and Sean. There's a docu series on Netflix called... I'd like to race across the table and give old dust a swat as I like to do. Called the Playbook.

And one of the coaches in there is Jose Marino, who is one of the all-time winning a coaches in soccer in Europe. And does soccer let everybody in the playoffs? Crickets. I don't know. But no, no. What's funny about that is there's that team, who's the team that a couple years ago who no one gave a chance to do anything.

They had like 5,000 won odds that they win the whole thing and they won the whole thing. What team was that? I'm trying to remember some soccer guy is going to, I'm sure going to tell us. Yeah, I can't remember. But they were like this small, like beyond small market. They were supposed to be there. And somehow they won the whole thing. Well, they were in the relegation.

They were in the relegation, made relegation to move up the league. And then ended up winning the entire title. No one gave them a chance. No one given. Jose Marino went back to Portuguese because their national team was. That's Portuguese in the language they speak. Thanks to us. Anyways, so they go back, he goes back to Portugal because the team is dog shit.

And what is he into Italian? What does he end up? I sure like that French League. Shoes are flying here, folks. He goes back to Portugal, though. Cans, the entire team, the entire team. It starts fresh and he goes around to all the major junior team. teams and forms his team from all the different, not one professional player and ends up winning

the whatever European title over there with a bunch of junior players essentially. And he got to the point where the team was not what they were recognized for in that country. That country is a work hard first attitude. And that team had too many big name players that didn't try hard. And so They were actually losing fans, losing their national identity, and he brought it right back grassroots, and ended up winning the European title with that team. So he didn't keep Mike Smith as a tender then? Just so we're all clear, 14 of 206 teams make MLS playoffs.

That's about perfect, actually. It's a little over 50% doesn't it? Yeah, maybe once in a minute. NHL start up in January? At some point in January, I think. I don't know about January 1st, but sometime of January. Do they start up if they aren't having fats? I think they're going to have to.

They're going to have to. So then it will. They're going to have to. They're going to come back to, I assume they have TV deals just sitting there. And if they don't, if they don't fill obligations, then they lose the money, which means they're motivated by money to fill those, right? Because, I mean, that's a lot of money they got sitting there. Well, and I think the players want to play, so.

Well, what are the players doing? They're sitting there scratching their balls going, like, what are we going to do? Yeah, yeah. So I think the players are motivated. The big thing for players is going to be if they got to be in a bubble and away from their families. Because that... They've already said the Players Union has already come out and said they will not do that. That is not an option.

Well, well, fair. Well, why would they do that? I mean, they've just watched NFL and MLB do their thing. Not to mention when it was for the Stanley Cup playoffs and you're like, oh, we've got to live in a whole town. tell for possibly three months, okay, we'll live life. And stay away from the family and the whole bit. And now you're talking like six months or whatever it's going to be. It's like, yeah.

So I get the TV deals and everything else. So are all the teams in the league fine if they don't have fans again for another year? Or are we going to start to see some cracks here? Well, no, no, no. But I would argue the top leagues might be fine. No, I'm talking the NHL. I think the NHL. Every team in the NHL will be fine?

No. Within an $80 million payroll? I think they'll survive. I think we did the math. Wow. There's going to be the estimated math of what fans, like having fans in the Emmington Oilers selling out every single night off of seats and a bunch of different things,

it paid for like your payroll for the year. Right. But not your GM, not your. Not your busing, not your flights, all your stuff. All your extras. Right. Right. And maybe a bunch of TV deals and everything else kicks in.

Obviously there's a whole bunch that kicks in. Would pay and pick up a bunch of that. And then you get into playoffs and that's why they always say it's the, what, the cream, the, right? Like, it's the top. Yeah, because you don't pay the players in the playoffs, right? That's right. And you get. I should probably put all 32 teams in the playoffs then.

It's good. Sounds like you're contradicting yourself there. No, no. No, no. It sounds like a great idea. now. So going back to it, the TV deal better be pretty damn good. Travel, they're going to be in the same position as any other league, right?

That's why they're talking, you know, a Canadian division, you know, and we got that, you know, like what happens in a Canadian division? Well, one, they don't go across the border. But now you're playing Calgary more times. You're playing Vancouver more times. Those are closer. That's a closer trip. It's a long ways to go over to Toronto, Montreal, and over.

But you... It would be a swing, though, right? Once you get to Toronto, how far is it from Toronto to Ottawa? How far is it from Ottawa to Montreal? Sure or not, but we're making the argument that it'll be cheaper or not. I mean, it would be the same thing. You go down in L.A. and then you're right beside... You're talking money again.

Right? Sounds like. At the end of the day, they're losing money. The reason why it got to be where you had to spend $500 million to get a team in the NHL is because they were making a ton of money. They ain't making a ton of money right now. None of us are going to games. None of us are buying the $10 beers that we all hate it, but we still bought.

I'll tell you what. How much dust are you making right now with your business? How much are we making with our business right now with dealing with COVID? They're going to be in the exact same spot, right? Nobody's making money as long as this is going on. So everybody's in the last? Who knows? Who knows?

You'd be interested in CEMOB with Seller Cap, though. that would change the whole dynamics going back to what you were talking about the thing with something like that though then is because wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait does the NHL you're the guy who asked the question and I could

see you chewing on it yeah like does the NHL survive do pro sports survive maybe survive isn't the right word I don't know well I think yeah I think they get through because we got enough billionaire people in the world I think there might be that's what I'm more asking about the cracks.

I don't know if what you see would get through if we had to go through two or three or four years of this. Does Florida and Arizona survive? The only thing about that, though, Jay, is if people are locked up in their houses. Columbus? Or if they're not allowed to go to these games and stuff, the TV deals get more lucrative.

Over time. Because more people can't go to the games and I... Yeah, but if the number, like, did the NHL have record numbers? Anybody know that? No. Why were the NBA numbers now? Because the players are woeses.

Well, and that's the other thing with a little bit of it all, though, right? I mean, is the NBA out of any of the league, out of any of the leagues, has been the most politically charged out of anything. It's true. So did that make a difference? I think it didn't help them. I don't think it's going on, though. I think people are so, there's so much going on that there's so much going on with COVID's going on.

We're all sitting at all. No, no, I realize that, but I think people are focused on what the heck is going on in their lives. There's so much changing their lives on a daily basis they don't watch. Is that possible? They pay less attention? I'll say this about just TV in general. I hear it all the time with the older generation that comes on. Once upon a time, when the Stanley Cup finals was on, it was Saturday night, there's nothing else going on.

you all tuned into it. No different if the border kings were playing. Like old Shep said. You'd go and you'd watch. And that's what the, now, you know, COVID locked us all in our house, but you still got options. Like, we all had options. And so every once in a while something captures the attention,

and I think the last dance, like everybody tuned into Michael Jordan, right? Like, that was fucking awesome. I can't say the same thing about the NHL playoffs. I just can't. When the owners are in, they're our team, I watched all the games. When they fell apart, then you started to pick and choose. The MLB is special to me. Maybe it's just the time of year.

If it was April, maybe it would be a bit different. You might be right on that. But something about with the MLB, you just flick it on. And when it's a playoff game, you just flick it on it. It's good. It is fantastic. I didn't do the same thing with the NBA, and I sure ain't doing the same with the NFL,

and I know there is a ton of NFL fans out there losing their top. Just relax. But NFL has, I always think the NFL is king, and they've found a way to make this seem like it is nothing. Okay. Right? They're still playing their game. I think maybe what I'm thinking about. What I'm trying to explain is, and it's not quite World War II, but during World War II, I got a feeling that everybody was so focused with what was going on around World War II that nothing else seemed to matter as much.

Now, COVID's not World War II, but you look at the last six months and everything's gone on in the world, it seems like chaos on a fairly regular basis. You think of the riots and the burning of buildings and COVID and everything. And it seems like there's so much going on in the world on a daily basis at times. There's too much to focus on and you just, it loses its importance. I could buy into that. I could buy into that. Now, how long does that go on for? I don't know.

You would think we're at close to the end of it, but you really don't know. It's got crazier this year than I thought it could. Well, we'll come to Jay's. Well, actually, before we get to Jay's question, what's your thoughts on having four dub players possibly play for the Bobcats? Because with the WHL not starting until later, they've opened it up for their players to come back and play for, well, as far as I can tell. Dodgers beat the race four two. That's final.

That's final. And by the time this airs, it might be all over. Who knows? but WHL come out said they're going to let their players come back

and play junior A I'm speaking from a Lloyd standpoint like you could have I mean think of all the guys we got can you get in the ring to watch them though

I know that's the problem actually that's the biggest problem is we can't get in the rink can you imagine if you had Waters captain in the blades come back well you got you got Ryanhart playing defense

there too you got um Jesus and now I'm going to feel bad. But you got, you got Ward sitting in Red Deer. You got that McClellan kid from Wayne Wright, who just got drafted by Philly.

I hope I said his name right because I'm probably torturing it, sitting there. You got, you got all these kids. How about Ty Smith still? Santazzo. Sentazzo. Franklin. Right?

No, Franklin isn't a, too old. Too old, I think. Too old, maybe. He's going to play down south. But you got Ty, Ty Smith. No. No, Ty Smith would be of age. Wouldn't have you something.

Tye come back for three months? But like Dustin says, we all can't get in the building to watch them. Yeah. Wouldn't that be unbelievable? No. How many people are letting in the Civic Center right now? 150 a thing is. 150, yeah.

Sell out every day. It's a odd ticket. Would be. It would be. It is now. I'll think about it. 150 people in a building that seats, what? A couple grand.

Yeah. With the seats, maybe 1,500 nowadays? Like, do you have to bribe someone to? get in the game then? Got to know somebody. Got to know someone who knows someone, eh? Who's winning the American election? We're going to...

I know not a politics show by any stretch of imagination, but it is probably at this point in the American election always is a big thing on Canada. But for us, this election, this is a big election. So who's winning?

Trump in a landslide. Trump in a landslide. Yep. I really believe that if you look at the polls right now I think the Biden's ahead by about 20 points or something like that I don't know I think it's a lot I think 10 points

10 yeah they keep saying that they said that during the last election I really don't trust the American polls well I mean as far as the last election go Trump had no business even being in the conversation and then he ended up winning right so which way does it help us more

because I've heard arguments in both sides in the last two weeks. That if Biden wins, it would actually help her all feel more because he's going to shut down all the fracking down there. I don't think he actually shuts down the fracking. I think he just said that. I don't know how he actually would. But I mean, why would you say that?

I would absolutely fracture the whole U.S. If he actually banned fracking. So why say it? Because his left guys are going to vote from anyway, so I didn't say it. I don't know if he's all there. And if you're not going to do that, then why would you, you're absolutely. He's 78 years old. Like, he's not my.

You're getting rid of Texas just right then and there, right? Like, yeah, we don't worry about you. This is why I don't believe the polls. The polls are showing that Texas is going to swing Democrat. And I'm like, like, for real? Like, really? There's a lot of city center. Like Houston's 4 million people.

After Biden comes out and says he's going to ban fracking Texas is going to swing Democrats. Obviously, I'm not saying that Biden's going to win or anything. I'm just, your comment was on Texas, though. And I'm just saying there's, you know, there's a large. You know, you get the large cities. I mean, even here, right? If we're going to vote liberal or NDP in Alberta, where does that happen?

Yeah, it's always in the cities, right? So, Harles, are you saying Biden's going to win then? No, no, I'm very split down the middle. I honestly don't know. You know, with Biden being ahead 10 points, I still don't think that, you know, there's a lot out there. I think that a lot of people that might not vote on a normal election,

and they're going to be interested in coming back out and voting again for Trump. And so I honestly still think Trump. I still think Trump is going to win. What are you thinking? You're the one with the American wife. I think it's strange that we're talking about in other countries' election. Honestly, I do. Think how strange that is.

It's the most powerful country in the world. That is true. It's true. So, you know, it has as much effect on us as probably the Canadian election. I watched the last, I watched the last debate. And I thought, you know,

everybody out there who's listening to this and got Joe Biden written off because he's sleepy Joe and he doesn't know how to string together sentences. Obviously, doesn't watch him talk because he is pretty smooth, right? I was sitting there and I was sitting, beside the wife and I looked over a couple times and said and he has got Trump on the ropes like on

the ropes like he is thumping on him and he's laughing at Trump and I was laughing at Trump because can't laugh at Trump I feel like that's part of what he does right is he just says absurd things when he's talking about him and Abraham Lincoln you can't help him be like Trump just stop but in saying that then Biden will get on a tear and say things like you know we're gonna get rid of the oil field and you're like get rid of it geez and then he goes I want to clarify you're like okay please clarify that no emissions zero by 2025 and both mel and I look at each other and I go like you know if he said 20 50 maybe that's realistic but we're like four and a half years away from 2025 there's no freaking way you just and it's gone

Like that doesn't, it doesn't work that way. And I, you know, and then there's a reason Trump's there. Trump's there because he keeps doing the Joe. He was just in three and a half years ago. You did none of this. What's wrong, Joe? And Joe can't say anything. And just the way Trump does it is just lovely.

It was, uh, whoever thought I'd sit and watch presidential debate for a couple hours. And it just was entertaining. And part of it, well, 85% of it's Donald Trump. this you know last time the election came around I thought Hillary Hillary Clinton was going to win I told Jay that in his house and then you know Trump wins so what the hell do I know

so let's go out on a string and I'm going to say Kanye West he's going to split up the middle and just come from nowhere and Kanye West is leading the the most powerful name yeah that's right but could you imagine I don't know oh my God

he'd have a great rap song about it I'd listen to it I'd probably download it and pay for it and all on it. I heard Kanye on Joe Rogan today, and he'd actually have my vote, I think. He actually talks pretty well. Well, there's the value of dust vote. Yeah, there you go.

No Mike Smith and Kanye West. I am Trump and Trump and Kanye West. And I am interested to hear what you have to say, because out of anybody here, you've probably watched everything and have been the most involved. I don't know. Sometimes that makes you dumber.

You know, so you watch everything. So there's a Telfiger, Telfiger, Elgar poll. Can you say that again? Hey, but he's moving to Italian, right? No, no, no. This is down the States, Charles. So it's... Was it a Portugal poll?

The guy that did this poll, he predicted Trump's winning 16. And so what he said is that a lot of the polls, they don't take in account how many people don't want to... you know, if someone comes to your door, you don't want to say who you're voting for. Yeah. Right? People don't like that.

And no one wants to say Trump. And never mind that it's Trump. He says even on regular, like even on other times, people, there's certain amount of popular, certain percent that don't like to say who they're voting for. They think that's a very private thing. Yeah.

And then on top of it, now you got Trump. So there's definitely a certain percentage that do not want to say that because they get ridiculed. Yeah. So according to his models, he thinks Trump eeks out a win. So I'm going with the,

uh, Treelfigar, poll. Three Trumps and a West, no Biden. That's what we're saying. But I'm not sure which way would be better for us. I'm not sure. I've heard the arguments both ways. Because I know what you're saying,

dust, but if Biden decides to shut down some of the fracking and the states slowly diminished down to 9 or 8 or 9 million barrels a day, that's going to affect this. He has fracking. That galore matry. I know. But even if he does partial, right? Yeah.

So it's a big debate. Well, it's, like I say, it's a strange thought to think about somebody else's leader. Do you think the Americans give two shits about Trudeau coming in? They're the largest most powerful country in the world. I know. They don't care about it. You can, I understand. They would still be interested probably a little bit in Russians and Chinese or April.

No, probably not. Yeah. They don't have elections in China. When was the last time you paid attention, anything going on in Russia, China, anywhere? Maybe check with the Italians, AJ. All I'm saying is, it's odd. That's all I'm saying. I understand the most powerful nation.

I'll be tuning in because how can you not? Well, that's right. It's the greatest to show on Earth at the moment. All right, let's do this. Crude Master Final Five. Shout out to Heath and Tracy McDonald. Huge supporters of the podcast is very beginning. Five questions.

we're going to start with one that is close to my heart your favorite age of your kids now Harley Amir kind of tad at the hip on this one because we have the youngest and the reason why this question is in here is in the last week and a half well it's actually closing on two weeks I got to take Shay my oldest to buy his first set of skates which was fun then I got to take him out in full gear inside skates and he actually like I don't know walked, skated, whatever.

But before this time, if I got him out on the ice, he lost his absolute shit. And it wasn't, you know, as a guy who loves hockey and skating, you just want to help, but you can't,

you know, he just isn't there yet. And in the last couple weeks, he's there, like it's fun to watch. He wants to be out on the ice. He wants to, you know,

and you can see him trying to get it, and he's starting to get it. Did a little 360 the other day and actually stood up. He was like, woo. I was like, Oh, that's right.

Fis pal out for that, right? That's cool. So I go around to you three. What has been your favorite age of your kids thus far? Go ahead, Arnold. Oh. Every year the Mason gets older, it gets better. So he can do more.

There's more things that we can bond with. So it just keeps getting better. And by no means is that a knock on Ala. She's just that much younger yet. So we'll see as a time progress. but right now he's four coming on five in January and this by far has been the best yet just because we can actually start to do stuff right we went out with Sean and Shay there and skating at the multiplex and the first skate at the multiplex last year when he

first started he was skating from end to end in 59 seconds by the a half time him I did I did. Harley's going to be that guy. Hey, that dad. Well, I was suddenly got 32 seconds. I was just interested.

I was, I was just interested, right? I wanted to see a bit of progression. Little Jerry just ran upstairs. Bobby Joe, he got 45 seconds. Halfway through last year,

he was at 39. I got the start of the record. I got to finish that. Little Jerry ran from Newman's place to mine in 59 seconds. Was that fast? I don't know. Exactly. I don't know.

I don't know that. start of this year we went out and I just timed them right on 11 seconds and you go 59 seconds down to 11 seconds in a year you know and you think like how much progression how much stronger faster you know all of that stuff right and it's only getting it's getting better and every year that progresses it keeps getting better so I'm really interested because I know Sean is probably the exact same right every year that passes it's continuing to get better at some point here though right i mean there's probably a fond time that you're going to look back on as as that is the best right and so i'm interested to hear what you guys have amazing about harley's stories it still takes hardly 25 seconds he's catching him dust are you time and me is that what are you trying to do here so i got uh and little jerry's right the chickens name's a little jerry and yeah yeah yeah yeah uh a little jerry yeah yeah uh a little jerry I just thought I had to be right on that one.

So I got two favorite ages. Six months to a year. Because as a baby, they're not walking around yet, but they're with it enough to actually interact with you. So that was one favorite age. And the other one is that 7 to 10 range. And the reason why 7 to 10 is, and we'll see in a couple years when my kids become teenagers,

whether they'll start, you know, talking back or not wanting to be around you so much, which I think is probably natural. But at 7 to 10, you can play with them. You can reason with them. You can joke around with them. They have a personality. But they're not old enough where they're going their own way. They still want to hang around with you.

So those are my two favorite ages. Well, I've had a lot more history of ages, I guess. I wasn't a big baby guy. So that's not my age. I enjoyed the 6 to 12 because they're independent enough. and you know they're doing all the fun things but they still are innocent enough and enjoy everything right and then all of a sudden one day when they're 12 or 13 it changes within a week and you're going what happened but i will say through the teenagers there's some enjoyable things too because that's where you play at the higher levels it doesn't necessarily have to be triple a it's just the higher levels of of hockey or ball or sports volleyball whatever that sport is for the kid and they're you know where they're actually playing the game how it's supposed to be played and they're understand what's going on and that can be a lot of fun and then you get the road trips with the

parents and all that kind of good stuff right so for me the you know probably six to 12 it's probably my favorite age for that but there was some enjoyable things that you know go from that 12 to 12 to 17 just different and there's a little more stress especially once they get to about 50 so that probably takes away from it a little bit but who's the best athlete at their current sport, currently, right now, today. Oh, basketball, basketball you got LeBron. I don't want who, I don't want one from each sport. I want who do you think is the best.

And it supersedes anyone at their current sport. So LeBron's better than McDaniel. LeBron, I would say. So last night, I watched. As much as that pains me to see. LeBron's incredible. last night I watched the UFC and Khabib retired

actually retired last night How long does he stay retired for though? No, no, no. So his dad passed away He promised his mom that this was going to be his last fight. He is 29 and 0 and I watched him last night fight against Gaghi who is

the number one contender and actually was the interim belt holder because Kibib was away while his dad died and he absolutely like it was just complete and utter domination. Like, it wasn't even close. Like, it was unbelievable, he beat him in two rounds.

Gachy's this guy who has, you know, can throw huge punches and, and people fear his hands, right? He came at him. After the first minute of the first round, all the way through the rest of the first round and the second round, he just came at him the whole time. Didn't slow down, didn't stop, just went straight at him until eventually took him down, choked him out within 10 seconds of him being on the ground. And it was unbelievable. Now he's retired as of today, so I guess I can't say him.

But it was so impressive. I was gobsmed. So then who's your top athlete of today? I just told you, R. I'll stay with Khabib because he was, he was, I couldn't believe how good he was. I'm going to go McDavid. Just because to me, he's playing at a different level. I think LeBron's really good.

And, you know, he's going to go down as one of the top five all time, but he's getting older. So I'm going to say McDavid. Is McDavid in the top five conversation already? Is the question I have for you? And this is the only thing that is going to spur me. So then really... No, but the question is who's the best athlete right now?

Right now. Not who's had the best career. Who's the top 10? Who's going to make the Hall of Fame? Who's won more cups? Who is the best athlete right now? In their sport. So I like LeBron,

because you put LeBron on your team, you pretty much go to the championship. I get Khabib because I get it. I get McDavid because I get it. And the only other guy from another sport when I watch him, I go, man, that guy is fucking talented. Is Mahomes.

Mahomes is just get it what he does. And NFL, wow, football. As a QB, if you, you know, most guys like that only last, like a little short time and then they they just get cranked or whatever but that guy could throw a ball from wherever he can move he can he can just do everything he is absolutely fun to watch and it pains me because I'm a I'm a Tom Brady fan like Tom Brady is the man Patrick Mahomes is like right now oh space it's actually

interesting that you because I was taking it as a different point of view right like best right now but it's still they've got a bit of their Pedigree. But that wasn't the question. No, fair enough. Fair enough. But, you know,

one other name that comes to mind is actually Serena Williams. She is still dominant at her sport. And she's got the pedigree to go along with it. Not as dominant now. She's still really good, no doubt. But you take Serena Williams from 10 years ago, flat out she was the best. The best in the probably world.

Always touch her. Because she absolutely smoked the rest of the woman for 10 years of her life, 15 years of her life. You know what's funny about Tom Brady is, I was always a New England fan, big Tom Brady fan. I thought him at 43 going to a new team with a new offense, no defense,

new coach, new everything, they need struggle. And he's been flat out good this year. I've been so... That defense is unbelievable. He joined a team. So did he do that on purpose? He knew the bucks that I got a good of a defense.

Let's be very clear. Tom Brady ain't dumb. Like, are you going to sit there think Tom Brady's dumb. No, that's what I'm saying, though. That's what I'm saying. So he picked the, oh, yeah, yeah. Because the Bucks would have the number two defense in the league right now.

He knew what he was doing. No, no, true enough. All I'm saying is that 43? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I get what Dost is saying. But I get what you're asking. Do you think Tom Brady's dumb? No.

No, I didn't say that. But here's the thing about Tom Brady. Take the deal. No, but you were saying if Tom Brady got an extra $2 million at Seattle or not Seattle, but you know what I mean? Was there any luck involved or he knew the Bucson? He knew. He knew. No, that guy doesn't stay with Bill Belichick

and do what they did without being thorough. And by thorough, I mean thorough. So him picking Tampa Bay, he knows. Okay, but hold on him in here, guys. Where do I got a very good success rate? What do I need? What do I need? He's going to a team.

He needs a good defense because he trusts his ability to run the offense. Okay. Here's the thing, though. take the defense out of the equation. He's throwing like 14 touchdowns and what four picks or six picks or something? Like that is incredible for a 43 year old guy. Like we're not talking the defense is winning games.

He's throwing 14 touchdowns and only having six picks. And yet we're talking about a 39-year-old Mike Smith. So I mean. Yeah, Mike Smith is Tom fucking game. I tell you what, whoa, before we go any further on that, because I'm a Tom Brady guy, you're talking about probably the best quarterback of all time. Mike Smith, get the hell of him out of here. You know, congratulations, Mike Smith.

You were just in the same breath as Tom Brady. Yeah, yeah. I can't even go along with that day. Harley's a big fan. You're not Tom Brady's thorough. We're not so sure about Harley, though. Meanwhile, Dustin is the one wearing the Oilers hat. As we crack into, what's that one called Harold?

Bottle number two. Scapa. Scapa. As we crack into the second bottle of scotch, what is your favorite hangover food for tomorrow? Why are we asking this question of the night? What would you like to tell? I guess Harley had a little bit of a late night, hey?

So he was complaining about it, so we thought maybe we'd... Howells, what time were you up to last night? It doesn't happen often, but it does happen every now and again. Wait, we haven't asked what happened to your lap. Did you get in the fight with the razor? I tell you what. The razor beat me last night. Last night or this morning?

Yeah. Last night. Last night. Before we went out on our date night, second one since in the last six months. So for the listeners that have no idea what we're talking about, Harley has a gash. A gash. He looks like Joker off of Batman. I was about to say Joker off Batman.

Where the cut is placed isn't above the lip, ain't below the lip, is right in line with the crease. It makes it look like he has a bigger smile. It looks at me. He's got a big smile going on. Hey? And what you were doing is you having too many wobbly plops were you? Not it at all. Not it at all.

That was before any wobbly pops happened, period. So what was your hangover food today? So, yeah, this is where the question comes from. It's from Harley's Cut. So fire away, Harold. What do you got for a hangover food? Honestly, the best hangover cure is just getting out and getting after it. So we were out skating this morning and did a bit of physical labor trying to sweat it out.

but if I had a food that I was a go-to it was not today but probably McDonald's. It's hard to beat McDonald's. Got to get a little of grease in you. Straight up bacon and eggs, but my favorite hangover story is still Sean on the bike trip

and I expect you to tell that story when it gets back to you. Go ahead, Jack. Carry on. I don't know. I mean, Mickey Dees is an easy one to pick, so... Do we all have the saver?

I'm going to say, you know, so I'm going to go something different. I'm going to say there's nothing like waking up late and going down to an establishment and having a couple of hair on the dogs while you're watching maybe some, you know, a little Sunday

football. Sunday football. Yeah, yeah. Right? And then maybe you're grabbing a little you know, beef dip or, you know, fries and gravy, that kind of thing. And you've got a couple of pops going on. Like, that's a pretty good day. I tell you what. I will second that.

I like McDonald's breakfast. I don't think anything beats it. But the Trump card is, hey, Sunday football's going on. I know you feel like shit, but come down to the bar, we're going to watch a football game, and we can have a couple of sassarillas

and surprise, and away you go. That's where the original Sunday fun day comes from. And the only thing... What's your drink of first drink of choice? Because are you going right back to a beer, after you're hungover. Well, I've never been a Bloody Mary or anything like that.

So I would say if you had beer, orange juice, I could handle that. A beaujie. I think I'd go with a radler. Well, I mean, now I'll think of all the stuff they have. I think I'm just going, you know, maybe a beer and tomato. Or a clam? No, I'm allergic to. No, no, no, Caesar.

I, there's a lot of people that go for a Caesar or, but, uh, I might just go for a shot and get right after it. The only problem is sometimes that Sunday fun day turns into too much fun day and then you're hungover Monday. Well, I know. Actually, that's exactly what happens. So the story I want Sean to tell, I'll lead into the story, and Sean can finish it.

But on the bike trip, we pull into Portage. Portage of the Prairie. Portage of the Prairie. Actually, but the night before we were in Winnipeg, that was just as bad at night. I was on the middle of a... Sean, we stayed with a buddy in Winnipeg, and Sean got all lit up. And we made it into Portage and his buddy Tick, who is every bit of a Tick is what you think. He's, he's full on.

He is. Hey, show up to Tick if he's listening to this because he's a cop out in Ottawa and showed up to all the cops out there. But Tick, Tick is one of the best. Tick's a beauty. So, Sean, we get there and Tick's like, show him, we got to go out. And Sean's like, oh, man, is out last night? I don't know if it feels so well. Tom ticks like, well, you're not going to stay in, are you?

And Sean's like, probably not, I guess. I'm like, hey, Sean, I don't care what you do. But if you go out all night, tomorrow you're leading out on the bike. That's true. He did say that. All day on the bike. And Sean goes, yeah, yeah, no problem. So he goes out.

We stay in this house and I get woken up at about 4 a. No, no, no. Okay, now you're jumping over. Go ahead. So we go out. We go to the cat and the fiddle, I think it was. I don't think the bar is there anymore. People, if they're listening, Portage, can tell me different.

But we go to Portage La Prairie. We go on the bar there, the cat and the fiddle. And we have a grand old time. And may have made some eyes at some ladies. Anyways, the short of the story is this, okay? This is premel, for sure. Oh, yeah, yeah, I know. Hey, Mom, I'm sorry that you have to hear about me making out.

and other ladies because she's going to ladies gentlemen she's going to she's going to harass me just because Sean made eyes and ladies doesn't mean anything happened right he's still made it home right I still made it home anyways so I roll in at about 405 a.m. okay at about 405 no no like it was almost like I was just about to say four four a.m because I got woken on I I remember looking and being like oh shit I hope Dustin doesn't wake up and I mean I laid my head down on the pillow. No, no, no. You're missing this story, though. You lay your head down on the pillow, and Tick is like every five minutes going, hey, Sean, Sean, and then he'd tell a story and go, and I'd be like, fuck, boys, just shut the fuck up. It's 4 a.m. And Tick did this for like the

whole hour until like 5 a.m. because we got up at about 5 a.m. every morning to hit the bike. You know what I hate about dust? He makes up Winnipeg and Portage, because that's what happened in Winnipeg. And I had to do the same thing the night before, okay? Portage. I Well, into 405, you wake up at 415, and I didn't even get to close my eyes. He's just like, hey, you better be up in half an hour, at 430, and we're biking. I'm like, okay. And so I didn't close my eyes. I just got on the bike and led the entire way.

And the thing about that day is, and no, no, you're not going to cut me off here. No, I was just going to say, Tick. I never shut up the whole time. Portage to Winnipeg was the longest day we had of the entire trip. 69 days? Longest trip was the night I had no sleep, and not because I had. no sleep, which everybody'd think he had no sleep. It was because from Portage to Winnipeg, we blew every tire possible. No, no, it's Brandon. No, I'm scrapped. From Portage to Brandon,

we blew every tire possible. It was the hottest day. It was 30-some above. I let the entire way, because Dustin wouldn't let me out of the way. He wouldn't let me drag in the drift. You want to go it all night? You pay the fucking price, buddy. I tell you what? Hey, Tick, if you're listening, it was worth the squeeze. That was a great fucking night. Wouldn't change it for the world. No, no, no. So here's the thing. is we blow all the tires that day and the only time we had to patch the tire was on the side of the road in between Portage

and Brandon. We had a headwind the whole day shit Sean was muslin it out. The great thing about falling, Sean, is he's so wide is you get in his tail win and he hardly even had the pedal, but Sean was dying in the front, right? Anyhow. I had like five second wins that day. I feel great. I feel terrible.

I feel great. This is the worst day of my life. Anyhow, so we're on the side of the highway. Waiting for this, we patched once because we'd always carry our extra tube so we didn't have to patch. We had to patch that day because we blew so many tires. We patch that tire and we're laying in the ditch when it's like 35 above. And every time a semi goes by, you've got to go, and we're laying there and we're, I look over at Sean and I'm like, hey, Sean, now this. This is biking across Canada right here.

And anyhow, then we got, we finished at what, 6 o'clock that night? You forget the best part of that day? What was that? who drives up, we're about 10K out of, we're 10K out of Brandon. Pulls up. I could talk about this all day. I remember,

you know, as hung over as I was that day. It was that day. I remember that day. Was that not your longest bike day out of the entire year? Hours wise. Hours wise.

Hours wise. Yeah, because we ended at 6 o'clock that night. And so I'm, we're stuck. We're patching a tire. This guy rolls up in a half time, pulls up and says,

hey, why don't you hop in the back? You look tired. You can get, you can get out of town. I'll drive you. start your truck start fucking moving i didn't bike this far to have you fucking haul my ass in i'll get there and dust is like you sure like we could do dust shut up get in the fucking ditch we'll fucking lay it out here for a bit and we'll get in there let me tell you when i was tired and i was

leading the way i may have been hung over but i was not giving up that easy my my question is so when you got to brandon did you go out that night john went to bed kevin kevick kevin kevick Another showed it to Kevin Coke Because Kevin Coke Now this is the third night in row So BMC did it to me That's why I went on in Winnipeg And then Tick did it to me in Portage

And the next night is Kevin Coke And Kevin Coke were sitting there He said come on man We gotta have a drink And I'm like dude I can't get my eyes open right now And he's like no no no you can't And I passed out on his floor

Watching some movie Snoring Because I just I couldn't keep my eyes open anymore So I would have loved to Sure But I literally couldn't keep my eyes open I will say this is I'll give props to Sean he was not a basketball player that day for sure he was it was not a LeBron that's a true story

Kevin Cout tried get me shout out another shout out to Kevin Cout because I feel bad because I'm all the apologies to the Brandon ladies for that night missed well he he was he was he was the guy in the list right he if he had been the first we would have went out hard he was the third so he got BMTick him I had nothing left I was done I had it all his ass all the way. How would Dustin have made out if he had nobody break him for him the entire way off across Canada? He would have cut out by Thunder Bay.

He would have been like, Manant, I'm flying home. This is enough. The beauty part of all. If Lori would have been leaning that. She just about ran into a deer one time, and she ran over a sign in Calgary. Hey, what's your next one on the list? Whoa, whoa, just wait.

I will say this. I can't remember what I was going to say no. She's getting old. Yeah, that's true. Hey, I'm like Mike Smith old. Memory's fading. If. You could win a single game.

Okay, championship game. So we're talking game seven in the Stanley Cup final. Game seven of the World Series. We're talking overtime winner versus home run to win the game versus TD. But catching the touchdown versus... Catching the touchdown. Throwing the pass. Sure.

Buzzer beater. Yeah. Overtime winner. Put on the 18th green. Put on the 18th green. Placeholder. knee to the face UFC You knee to the face sure

Tennis You know Dustin's been doing too much Fucking Tycoondo over there He thinks he's tough no It's not Taekwondo But anyone wants to take around Let's go I tell you what

That's what we're going to put out To the listeners after who'd win a fight That's what we're going to do If people want it I want you to I think we should take bets And make it happen Hit me up at

No I'm too soft That just sounds like a lot of hurt there I'd love to take Jason in the first round. Wait, wait, wait, wait, but if it is it a fight? I-O-J a beat-down like something bad. Is it a full-on fight, no punching just submissions, or is it like WWE? Throwing in there.

Garbage can and ladder match? Like, well, I think I got a chance. Throwing gloves and away you go. I'm in. Anyways, all I'm saying is if you're interested in that, you hit me up, but some social media will make it happen. All right. Now, if you were winning a single game, which sport and how?

Jay. You start. Oh, why do I got to start? I'll start this. I know exactly what I do. It would be a home run in the ninth inning or extra innings. It doesn't matter to walk off home run. And the reason is because he get to trot around the bases.

You get the bat flip. Would that be the first home run you would ever? Yes. I didn't hit it in the park once for sure because I was fast. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. But that's what I do for sure, for sure. A home run to that. That brings back great memories.

the Britain golf tournament, uh, golf ball tournament where we had the home run derby. Who won that, boys? Hey? Hey?

I did hit one though, didn't I? You might have hit one. That's not even sure. I think I hit one inside the park. I think I think it was inside the park. I think I think it was in a home run derby. Harles?

Well, Jay, um, well, I don't know. I mean, you know what? I can,

I can feel for any of the four. I guess, you know, a little, Through the legs, dipsy doodle, under the bar, jump into the glass. Win the Stanley Cup. Can't get much better than that. If I was going to be the overtime hero in hockey, though, I think I'd be Grefsky streaking down the left-hand side, slap shot, top shelf.

Game over. Yeah, that was game two against the flames. Yeah, it was. But they swept him after that. Yeah. He's played all night. Stevie Y. John Casey.

No, no, no. He was penalty killing against Mike. Yeah, I know. But that's when he was going down the sideline there. with the puck. He was penalty killing. And the announcer's going, and there's Grexky with the puck. He's played all night. Shouts and scars, right?

Slap shot. Yeah. Graxie with a slap shot. Yeah, Gregsky with a slap shot. Yeah, that's right. Anyhow, go ahead, Chuck. I think I might be the odd one out here. I mean, obviously, would I take an OT winner in hockey? I think I would. You think you would.

You think you would. Okay. Well, okay. Well, I like the orchestration. like the you step back you're Tom Brady all you need is

the little touch boom and you win the Super Bowl and you're not the guy catching the ball by any stretch but you're the guy orchestrating it

right so it doesn't matter whether you're the handoff and whatever it's just boom and Super Bowl is and

I would take that I would take that in a heartbeat right throwing just the dagger in the end zone fourth quarter you march down the field 30 seconds left boom done i'd probably take that i just keep going to you know look at at it all and for me it would either be hockey or baseball right

that that feeling of you know you hit the dinger and now the trophy comes out and you can't even barely hold it because you're worried about breaking the freaking trophy you're worried about breaking the Frick and trophy. Yeah, but you're not worried about the trophy. You're worried about the play, the feeling. That's what we're talking about. That's what I'm saying the bat flip and the trotter on the base. And you might be right.

I tell you what? I think it's almost to the point where you're like, what are we even talking about? Like a baseball, whether it's the home run dust or whether it's just an RBI single and you win the game, look at TBA last night. Like that was unbelievable. The guy running the field, that's unbelievable. You can say the same thing about soccer. Honestly, honestly probably Probably now.

Kauai Leonard hits that fucking buzz beer And it just hangs there It's like what is What is better than that? Well the truth of the matter is When you win at the buzzer I don't know if there's one better than

Baseball actually now that I think about it a little bit more I think baseball You get you get the run around the bases I know You get the guys jumping on top of you you know, Azarino or whoever they're there last night, and he's on the bay, or

on home plate, and he's banging the base, and guys are jumping, like, dog pile. Dog pile on top ofia, right? I would take, I would take, as long as I was a part of the team, I would take whatever dog ship roll you want me to be in, let's just win. You give me the dog ship roll,

we win, and I'm on the cup, whatever the cup is, as long as it isn't Pat LeBron on the best, back. I'm sorry, LeBron. As long as I'm an equal or semi-equal in it, I'm not Joe Sackick, but I get to at least hold the cup. Give me that rule. I get to be the 23rd guy that lifts the cup. Fucking rights. You know what's funny about that? Is you're talking about football? Most times the guys who win at late in football games are the kickers. True. That's why I say placeholder. I just like, I just, I'm a Tom Brady guy. He just has these little ways and just

boop over there and it's boom and it's it. Anyways. your final one, which we ended on last time. We drank Harley's bottle of scotch. Just wanted to say thanks for Harles on having such a great pick. I'm sure he'll have a great pick the next time as well. I mean, he just buys such a great bottle of scotch. Just wanted to give him that thank you. What Harley, Harley, what Dustin and Jay are getting to is it is bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet.

All right. So, here it is, okay? For the next round table, we need to know who is. buying the next ball of scotch. Not that Harley's, he should have probably bought two because we could have burger that too. Anyways, who will be the top in the NFC East? And just to give everybody, so before playoffs,

anything happened, who is the top of the NFC East? Yeah, no kidding. We're all talking about that right now. Here is the NFC East right now. Philadelphia Eagles are two, four, and one. Washington football team is two, five, and zero. Funny calling them the Washington football team. The Dallas Cowboys are two, five, and zero,

and the New York Giants are one and six. Maybe what we should do is the team that wins the division. The guy has to buy the bottle. That'd be even better. I tell you what, it's pretty bad right now. So that probably gives Harley an out. So the way we're going to work at it is Harley gets first pick. then and we're going off point to us from our last we were going backwards so it goes

Harley Sean Dustin J so I agree with that we're going so the team that wins it the guy who picks the team that wins it wins the division wins the division it has to buy the bottle and we all know Harles you should probably pick the Giants I'm trying to give you know here Harals with my first pick I'm going to pick the New York Giants shocker All right. Oh, man. You don't even take between the Eagles and the Cowboys. Isn't Sean up next?

Yes, he is. Sean has to take Washington, don't you? But I don't care if it's up to you. Man, that's ugly. This is a terrible, terrible thing to do. I'm going to zoom in on it a little bit. Oh, now we need half an hour while he checks out the stats. I really feel bad, actually, for Kobe Mann and all of this,

because his team is the Eagles, right? And like, this should be talk shit bad this year. I'm going to take, I'm going to take the Dallas Cowboys. That's what I'm going to take. You know what? I was going to take Dallas because DAC is out. Well, and right now you're wondering, Dust, what would the legend do? Hey?

You know, if there's anyone who wanted to pick a loser, it would be the legend might be. Crawford. Do I got a phone a friend here? Did we not bring up Mike Crawford? Can I, can I phone the legend himself right now? I can't go through a show without bringing him up, can we? Yeah, let's call Mike.

Mike, can we get Mike on the line? Can we have a little Mike at? Okay, so Sean took the Cowboys, Harley took the Giants. I think I have to go with Washington. I just... Chances are I'll be buying a bottle because I think the Eagles are probably going to squeak it out. How many wins do they win it with?

Six? Seven? I'm going to say six. Six and ten? No, they might go seven and nine. I'll say seven and nine. All right. I'll take Washington.

Who am I going to take? You got the Eagles, Jay. I know. Wouldn't you just love for the Giants to go on a tear? Wouldn't it be awesome, eh? And then Hardy's going to buy again. You know what? Out of all of us, we all showed up with a bottle except for Jay.

So I mean, I already knew that. I'm already excited for Jay to be buying them. He knew Harley was buying. I forgot about the bet, but... I also forgot about the bet. I did not forget about the bet. Well, boys, it's been an absolute treat. Thanks for coming in again.

And until we find out who... Win's the... Yeah, no kidding. Who loses this bet? Yeah, so now we're all going to be watching football on Sundays here. That's right. Well, thank you. Thanks for coming in, boys.

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