Shaun Newman Podcast - Ep. #128 - Chris King
Episode Date: November 4, 2020The coach of the Lakeland Lady Rustlers Basketball team is back in studio and we discuss the opening of his new facility the Hoop Factory, where the idea came from & opening up a new business in t...he middle of COVID-19. Some other topics that come up is the life of 3 kid parenting, Lebron winning the bubble & COVID-19 restrictions in regards to getting the rustlers back playing. Let me know what you think Text me! 587-217-8500
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Originally from Kid Scotty, Alberta, he's entering his 13th year's head coach of the women's
rustlers basketball program. This past season, the wrestlers won the ACAC championships,
the first gold medal in Rustler's basketball history. He's been awarded to ACA.
AC Coach of the Year four different times.
He is a co-owner of Golden Ticket Sports,
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and they just opened up a new facility
Hoop Factory here in Lloyd Minster.
I'm talking about Chris King.
So buckle up.
Here we go.
My name is Chris King,
and I'm back on the Sean Newman podcast.
Okay, welcome the Sean Newman podcast.
Tonight I am joined in studio.
You know, you're slowly becoming one of the guys
have had on quite a bit. Chris King, sorry, to give you a name. Well, this is my goal. Every time I see
you get Redden and these guys up two, three, four times, I'm like, I got to get back on. So if I pay you
enough money, you say, hey, you can come on for 30 minutes and then I'll catch you off. So that's my
goal. I just keep me up with the Joneses right now. That's, yeah, that's right, folks, pay me enough
money. Yeah, right, right, right. Well, where do you want to start? I want to start actually,
third kid because you last time we were on on the COVID roundtable me you to a mayor and soups
you're expecting and now you've had your third yeah you're in the third kid life yeah how's
a how's the third kid life bet you know how that is it's crazy it's crazy first of all I didn't
have the kid my wife did I was there I'll be honest I've barely been around she's a saint
this kid is your wife getting her
masters or something too? Yeah, she just started, she just started her master's. So she's at home with
three kids. She's writing a test tonight right now. I started to do a quiz while feeding the baby the
other day and I was like, you're so much better than me. What did you tell you were doing today?
Well, I had to go, I had a little issue at Hoop Factory I had to go deal with. And then I said I had
had a podcast and she just gave me the look. She's like, I'll see you tomorrow. I'll see you
tomorrow. She knows a deal. No, yeah, third kid. Awesome. That kid is smiley.
and sleeps good, I just wonder why they didn't make the other two that way, because it would have
been a lot easier. If it would have been like that, we might end up with five or six kids, but I think
we're shutting her down. She is shut down, actually, officially. Is it shut down? Oh, yeah, shut down.
Dr. Saeed fixed that situation for me, so we're good to go.
What was the hospital experience like during COVID? Well, actually, when we went in is right
when they took all the patients from northern Saskatchewan. So we went up the night.
for delivery and in the delivery room there is if when you went to the right in the hospital
it was regular delivery on the left side it was COVID wing so that was a little unnerving
because you don't know is there anything that your baby can catch is it in the hospital is
it all these things so I think it adds to a level uncertainty and as you know childbirth is the
most uncertain thing you can ever participate in period right yeah yeah I everybody knows my story by
now about the third the third row that that was enough that was enough I every labor of
Mel's they were quick right but they progressively got worse so I yeah enough
about me no visitors though nothing no I believe when we went home actually my
parents didn't come for well I think my mom saw the baby just because you don't know
what you can contract and stuff so you're like sending pictures and once again
we had two huge babies to start and this one comes out half the size so we're like where's the rest of this
this kid right my son Nash was 26 and a half inches 10.6 pounds this k was uh i think six pounds and like
18 inch just tiny little thing so yeah so no one could come in and then you know my brother
wanted to come to her and it's the whole keep your family away the germs because that was right in
the height of not knowing anything and here we are months like
and we still don't really know anything so it hasn't got any better as you know yeah well
three children three children is a game changer actually I was just saying to Mel as I
came over here we she was changing out pictures on the wall right you know and get your
family photos done and then every year you kind of swap them out I assume most people do
that anyways there's this old one and it's of Shea at
Her brother's wedding and so
Two of her sibling
How the heck does this work? That isn't true
Her cousin's wedding her cousin's wedding
You better get this right. Yeah, yeah yeah
Better get this right
So in the last since our kids have been born
We had Shea and then we went to her cousin's wedding
And she was in the wedding party
So I got stuck on baby duty
Been there with one kid I remember being so
Stressed
You could just about I'm trying to get ready
But I got you know I gave him a whole
whole bowl of blueberries and his poop was blue and that I remember that vividly right that was one kid
I'm looking at this picture and I'm going I remember being there I remember being stressed up by
one kid how was I such a pussy like I mean back then that was terrifying now three you're juggling
you're just you know you're treading water you're just trying to survive that's what three kids is
right it's literally go go go go just make it work because at the time
that situation because I had a similar one with my brother-in-law's wedding, just Macy I had. And you're
just like, oh my God, how am I going to do this? I have one kid at a wedding. I got a kid with
pink eye. Now I got to like just, but with three kids, it's just you got to give up on one and just
hope that one, hope that one is going to take care of someone else. And then you just target the
weakest one. So I target Nash quite a lot because he doesn't listen to his mother. He's three
years old and he's starting to talk back so it's as much as I think it's hilarious it's not good so he's
causing some issues in the split between the girls so yeah it's a great time with three kids you know
how this goes it's just everyone says this train wreck gets better it doesn't look like it hey I tell you
what so Mel's sister now so so we we went to her cousin's wedding with one right I was I was a guy looking
after it then we went to her brothers she was in the wedding party as well and I had to look
for the two and by the end of the day I was so done I was beyond done I was beyond done you needed a
day off after like I mean I sat on the deck in silence and drank a marmalade or not a marmalade
a koolet of some sort right like with a vodka and just sat there and she's like you want to talk
I just want to sit here in silence that was two so I've been petrified for the three and today I told
her I was like you know by the time you know COVID may help me out
because the wedding is supposed to be this summer.
Now it's next summer.
And I'm like, you know, I think it's going to be easier and two.
Like I've come to, I think I can handle this because I'm going to be by myself with three children.
You must have been drinking at the time.
You know, the COVID, though, you hit it on the head that when you needed that time by yourself,
because my wife made a comment the other day, she's like, you realize in COVID,
you would just say I'm leaving and you would just go driving for an hour.
I'm like, I don't think it was that long.
She's like, I would send you to get groceries that were.
pre-package, so we'd go to Sobies, they'd deliver them, I'd get a coffee, I would literally
drive around the outskirts of Lloyd and just not even think, just like zombieed out and
I'd come back and she's like, it's been two hours. I'm like, oh, shh. I just, I just up and left
lots of times. I'm like, I got to go. I got to go. It was not good for my mental well-being.
So it could have been the third kid. It could have been COVID, but you saying that you needed
that zone out, I feel you. I hit the pause button a little too much during COVID.
Yeah, your wife is taking her master's.
Yeah, she just started her MBA.
Is she a superhero?
Is that what she is?
Yeah, she's trying to be.
I think like her daily goal is just to make me look miserable, like a terrible human.
So, yeah, she's better than me.
I've admitted it before.
So she doesn't seem to catch on yet.
But yeah, she started her MBA.
And I think it's executive management or executive leadership.
And so I see her in there feeding the baby, working on her class.
Meanwhile, I'm trying to play Barbies or hockey with the other team.
So it's, yeah, it's not really a divide and conquer.
Shea spit up me tonight.
That was the new one.
Hmm.
Hmm.
How did that feel?
Did it hurt you in the heart or just surface?
Actually, I was, I don't know.
It wasn't good.
But then he spit at his mother and that made it a lot, a lot worse.
Yeah.
It's taking it to another level.
You know, I really hope someday, Chris, I really hope someday my kids go back through all these.
Right.
They probably won't.
They'll probably think I'm an old boring guy or whatever,
but I really hope they can hear that at She at age four and a bit spitting at me,
and that got him sent to his room, and I can already hear.
And he was causing you grief.
That's the thing they don't realize is they were doing something.
At the time, they probably didn't realize it was wrong.
I was trying to tell him, we just finished wrestling,
and I was trying to just, like, bring him out of the wrestling stage.
Okay, buddy, we got to be done, right?
Yeah.
And he can try to jump on me one more time.
I said, nope, we got to be done.
and then, you know, anger erupted.
He took it to another level.
He took it to another level.
I kind of like that, though.
That's like next level.
Okay, not to make it heavy parent corner,
I'm going to tell you one more, my son, Nash, my wife,
he doesn't listen well.
I think it's a boy thing.
I'm not sure.
And my wife always like, Nash, look at me, look at me,
are you listening?
Look at me.
So the other day, he walks up to his mom,
puts his hands on her face and says,
mom, look at me, look at me.
And she starts to,
smirk, just like you're doing right now, and he's like, I'm hungry.
And I'm like, oh my God, you're going to get us both killed.
And he knew he was being funny at the same time.
So, yeah, those stories, they're funny and you're trying to deal with it,
but you're trying to be a good parent while not laughing.
And I had to leave the room.
Like, I was, yeah.
Well, you know, parent corner or not.
Kids, you always hear, you always hear people tell you.
It's like one of the most rewarding, frustrating, blah, blah,
blah things in the world. It's so true.
It's the best. Yeah.
And the worst, all the same time. Like, just some days, you're like, what, what is going on here?
So we've talked about this in private. When you think about your past life before three kids,
what were you spending time with? Like, me and my wife, I talk about, what did we do? She's like,
I have no idea. Did we go to the movies? Did we go out all the time? Now it's like, I'll see
her in bed or maybe at lunch or she's sleeping. She comes in.
I'm sleeping. Sometimes I don't even know we cross past. I don't know what happened pre three kids.
I think that got blurred out of my memory, just like the earlier childbirths. It's just kind of
like you're trying to push that aside. I parted a lot before three kids. Before kids. Before kids.
Right. Lots of movies. Lots of movies. Lots of date nights. I was probably a helpless romantic some point in time.
Listen to this suck up right here. Good for you. You know, your buddy. You're
I like at me because tonight folks we're drinking coffee and I apologize to all the local
coffee burrs, but we're not drinking local coffee.
It's too late for local coffee.
Well, A, true, but B, I should probably talk to somebody.
Mr. Tanner Appleton of Northman always comes up because I stop in there and have coffee
at the little coffee shop.
He's not going on every once in a while.
And anyways, I forget what I was talking about.
What the hell was I talking about?
Well, I think you're getting to be an on or off the wagon as well.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So before kids, you had time.
You just, you had, I like being busy.
I've always liked being busy.
So back before kids, you're busy, but you had lots of time to just, like, piss away, you know,
and still you could get things done.
Yeah.
Now you can't piss away things.
So for the month of November, you were making fun of me.
I got this nice little, as my wife was like nice mustache as I was leaving, right?
She hates it.
Is that what that is?
Oh, yeah.
You wait.
Yeah, you've been growing your beard for how long, you jackass.
So a mustache for November.
Okay.
I've got two buddies out at Serafina.
I do work with full-time working for Baker Hughes to deal with Serafina.
So we got a challenge of which we tried doing, correction, I tried doing 5K a day with them last November.
I made seven days, I think.
That's not bad.
Actually, it was pretty good.
And then I almost died.
Like, I mean, I was a walking zombie because I was still trying to do this.
and then run it like 11 at night.
I almost kill myself.
But anyways, so it's 3K a day this go around.
And they said I could walk.
I'm like, all right.
So today, me and the family went for a 3 kilometer walk.
It's perfect.
So mustache, 3K a day, and no booze.
And this is a weird thing because I'm around you.
You're every time we're together, you're off the wagon or on the wagon.
I was going to call it.
And then when I text you, you're like, let's have a drink.
But by the time we get around to it, that's right.
You're like, coffee only.
Kind of teasing me here.
Does that piss you off?
Yeah, a little bit.
Yeah, it does.
Just a little bit.
I think the last time was that pre-COVID, that last COVID roundtip.
Yeah, we had drinks.
We had drinks.
And now we're drinking coffee, which is also good.
But you got to say that you probably feel you're looking muscular.
You're looking fit since I seen it.
Looks like you've been pounding pushups all COVID.
So I'm glad you're saying that.
I don't know.
I feel out of shape.
Let's leave it at that.
But you got goals set for November.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyways, what that does, going back to it, is with three kids, that time is, like, non-existent.
So you can't have, you have the old late night feel like crap for three days?
Yeah.
Well, you started a bloody gym, man.
You're sitting in this and we're owing and on about what this is.
Well, it just doesn't happen if a guy ain't working at it, right?
It's true.
And so time has become, man, it's become important.
It's almost scary.
I remember somebody telling me that a long time ago,
and I was like, ah, yeah, old keys are now here I sit talking about it.
We're getting older.
That's that issue.
We're getting older, and time's going quicker and quicker,
and you see it when you look at your kids.
I see it with the kids I coach, right?
So 13 years, I see some of the players I coach now with kids
that are the same age as much.
my kids so it makes me feel like maybe I didn't get a real kickstart life but everything happens
in its own kind of realm so it's cool to see that happen but it's just blink of the eye things have
changed look at you're in here now yeah well the first two you did were in the old we did one in that old
room yep one around the board room table and now you're here yeah so next time when you get to the
biggest office in Lloyd I want in on that one when this table doubles when that happens we'll
make sure that the scotch bottles open I'll make sure that I don't
schedule you in for a coffee only.
That's good.
And I'm a Scotch, uh, wuss.
So that would be a real, real quick drink for me.
Speaking of, uh, seasons, basketball.
Yeah.
How's that been, we don't even want to go there.
That's terrible.
Um, no, I will give the girls lots of credit.
Um, so we started September 1st.
So we, my practice plan for tomorrow, I believe is practice 38 or something like that.
We're on.
Okay.
No games. No games in sight. We have 10 players because a few of the older players decided not to come back.
So we are basically, we can go five on five, but we are looking at January probably 15th, 16th,
16th, as like the best case scenario. We're not going to be playing a full league. It's going to be some type of pot action.
So I'm trying to keep a bunch of girls that are extremely competitive, as you know, anyone in college is extremely competitive,
in the right mindset for four freaking months
playing each other playing each other
I don't I give them all the credit because they're coming in
their work ethics great we've had some great practices
but like the only carrot I can dangle is
in two more months we might play a game might
now we're under the president's guideline
SaaS health guideline whatever the school says
that's what takes priority right our school takes priority over anything else
in each institution's different.
So a few institutions have backed out of the season altogether.
Who's that?
Concordia's out.
Augustana's out.
Really?
Yeah.
So there's a couple other schools that will not compete this year at all.
They'll just practice.
And it sounds like there might be more schools that are going to take this route.
So we might have a league.
We might have a mini pod season where it's us, Keanu and Medicine Hat.
And I've heard other rumors that it might be us in the huskies and the cougars playing
in a sask league.
we don't know it's it changes week to week so I'm trying to communicate with my players hey this is
what might happen this is where we're at and they've been awesome they do their weights three times a week
they do their skills sessions they come to practice they haven't really hung their head but I have to
think when they leave they're like I want to play a game like I want to kick someone's butt or get my
butt kicked AJ HL is playing games yeah different pods different course AJHL doesn't report to an institution
though, right? So post-secondary institutions, for the most part, are closed to the public,
lots of them, right? Okay. So when you're closed to the public, you can't be hosting basketball
games when no one's allowed in your facility. Also, our facility is under Lloyd guidelines,
so we're looking at 30 people max. I know you're good at math, so if you put 12 players aside
and a coach on each team, now we're getting real tight. You throw in the officials. You can't even
have a game day staff, right? So we're dealing with all these different things.
as you saw Alberta loosened it up a while ago.
Great.
And then now it's tightened it up.
So I do say AJHL, SJHL, this is my opinion only.
I think that they basically got the release from in Alberta.
It was basically junior hockey and university and colleges.
I think they tried to make exceptions to make sure hockey went.
I think we all know hockey is Canada sports.
So they wanted to make sure the junior A hockey system was going.
them going to bigger pods is great because they can play games.
Bigger pods for us means more risk.
And the institutions look at it that way as now,
instead of having a mini pod of 50 athletes,
now you're looking at 150.
Now we might be playing a team from Nate
who's exposed to how many more people
and how many more potential cases.
So it's very frustrating.
But I would say our administration's been doing a great job
of communicating with us.
We're trying to communicate to our play.
players every day something different we're all trying to stay positive the kids i have the most respect
for all the athletes that are here this year going to school and staying diligent with their schoolwork
and doing athletics but it's super frustrating it's just it's not what you think it should ever be right
and it doesn't matter are we finding a solution to covid soon doesn't appear that way right like
this is going to keep going for a while so whether we loosen or tighten at
know, the season itself doesn't look good.
Ontario canceled their season already.
So nationals got canceled.
I think the other conferences will cancel.
Canada West canceled their season, right?
So everyone's going to be playing makeshift exhibition games
to keep their athletes on campus, on scholarship,
coaches and staffs employed.
It's not great.
How confusing was that for you?
Or depressing.
A little bit of both.
I don't know.
The longer this thing goes, I just, I stare at and I go,
would having basketball games go with nobody in the gym be that such a terrible thing?
No.
Would it be that much riskier?
Probably not.
Here's my thing about, I can only talk about my athletes,
and I'm sure junior hockey is the same.
We try so hard to keep them safe.
We're in our training pods.
We wear masks in the school.
In the gym, we don't wear masks.
We're slobbering on each other, sweating and hitting each other, just like a regular practice.
We can't monitor when they go home or if they go out.
You know, my team, I'm trying really hard to keep them under rains.
But if they go out to a party or to a restaurant or to anything else,
they're exposed to just as many people as they are in a basketball game, right?
So it is impossible.
Yeah.
Unless you lock them up, it is impossible to monitor anyone.
especially some 18 to 22 whatever yeah 22 like you kidding me yeah just think about what your coach
if he said hey guys no parting at all this year you guys can only stay with your team you might do it
if you're a really good team you might do it for a couple weeks but then you then you're hell even do
the best case in a couple months yeah sure we're not talking like we're not talking just a couple
months eventually there's a uh something breaks the camel's back right just well we're at the
couple of month mark right yeah people start going a little bit squirrely and they're like
screw it like just screw up yeah that's all the society we've already seen that right I mean
all you got to do is go out anywhere in Lloyd and you get both spectrums by now and I'm I was the
guy at the start I remember well I mean the fear is a crazy thing right right at the very
beginning the fear I remember standing in the Baker Hughes coffee room
And standing against the one wall and just being like, I don't know if I should be in here, boys.
Like, I feel pretty awkward.
And everybody's just kind of like spread out.
Okay, well, and then it went like two months like that or of not seeing anyone.
Right.
And eventually, I don't know.
It's just, it's all the way back to where it was before.
And I'm just, I don't know.
I'm not sitting here saying that I'm going out of my way to be dangerous by any stretch of imagination.
If you're sick, stay home.
I think everybody's got that by now.
But yeah, I think people are doing better with that.
I just think anything you do, you're at risk.
Here's one of a buddy in Oakland.
He's now on month 10 of work from home, him and his wife.
And he got told February at best he'll be back in the field, a landman.
He's like, I can't do this.
I literally can't do this at home every single day.
The mental health of some people, and you talk about worrying about COVID,
but just even being at home locked up.
And now it's wintertime in Canada, which means,
You can't do hardly anything, at least in the summer, you talk about going for walks and jogs.
You can go get out with your family.
And if you're really concerned, you can still be really safe.
If you're not as concerned, you're still being safe for other people.
But now you're locked up.
What do you do in the winter?
Like, what's the social events?
I don't know.
I honestly, I don't know.
It's depressing.
I know.
I know.
I was listening to Michael Campbell, I think it was.
Brothers listen to Michael Camel.
He's got a, it's on a podcast.
But he's got a radio show on 630 Chad for about an hour long every Saturday morning.
Don't quote me 11 a.m. I think.
And it's an economy podcast or show talks a lot about the stock market and that kind of thing.
But he had a guy on talking about COVID.
And he was talking about, I want to say, Thailand or Vietnam or something like that.
And just the mental health aspect.
He said COVID, you know, in a 69 million population and killed, I think it was 58 people.
they had 2,000 suicides since that and you're like
well yeah I don't go so like the mental health of it
oh yeah there's a ton of things not being talked about right now yeah
and it's it's it's almost to the point of absurdity
I get the the COVID part yeah but
there's other things going on yeah at some point we all have to
live our lives again or it's I don't I'm not sure our lives
actually go back to the way they were but even just in our building now
seeing kids
the first time they've been on a floor or doing something in months
and talking to parents that have their kids playing hockey now
where they're actually playing games.
And there's just a little bit of excitement creeping,
but they get to be kids again.
They get to do sports and activities.
Like, think about your childhood, my childhood.
It's all you did was sports all the time.
Whatever season it was, you were playing some kind of sport.
Could you imagine when you were 10 or 14, they said, hey.
Or going into your last year, midget?
Yeah.
And all of a sudden that's...
You're not playing this year.
You're not going to finish this year.
and next year you might not get a chance to play.
Nah, man, I can't.
That's a, you know, going into, even to call it the multiplex,
that building is eerie with nobody in it.
When you're normally like hundreds of people in there at all times, right?
Coming in going, yeah.
It's just like nobody.
It's like, what is going on?
This is straight out of some like.
Horror movie.
Yeah, thank you.
Horror movie.
Yeah.
Yeah, I went in there once and I was like,
it is eerie.
but so that's kind of where our season coming back from the COVID that's where our season's at right now and like I said that's
that's such administration's been awesome everyone's trying to do their best they're trying to provide the best experience but it's if I'm being honest it's awful now we all still are well and I think it was you know if I remember the round table right you're the guy who is right in the middle of the season I'm both to head to nationals right and then COVID hits and it's just gone and now there's been like there's no way to get
Even back to a game, which is crazy.
Yeah, and I tell people all the time selfishly, that team had a shot at nationals.
This year's team, the same group essentially would have had a shot at nationals again.
We have like a three-year window where we're going to be really, really strong.
So we lose that national chance.
We lose this year's.
And then we have that one year left, which is crazy.
But once again, other people are hurting in different ways.
Oilers fans are saying the same thing.
Next year.
The next year.
The next year.
Well, I want to talk about the hoop factory.
Yeah.
It's been, a, it's been super cool to, like, walk in and see, like, it's, I haven't even seen the finished product now.
I've seen videos.
You've got to come over to shoot your jump shots now that we're done.
Well, have you seen me shoot a jump shot?
Oh, but you told me you won your rec league, so you got some kind of talent here.
You're hiding it from me.
You know, on the way over here, I was like, maybe, maybe what we should do is me.
there first have a game of one-on-one see how bad kinger beats me the first time then we
could actually joke about that but uh let's hear the story about how this this comes about
because a for people who don't know uh or listening from abroad hoop factory is uh essentially
a converted warehouse old dingy warehouse turned into a gymnasium now where they can train
basketball, volleyball, athletes, essentially.
Yeah, it was, so it started in COVID.
So our company, Golden Ticket Sports, did a bunch of coaching events,
and we were fairly successful with that.
And, you know, as a basketball guy, I think one of the things that everyone always talks about is,
man, if we only had our own facility and we can run our own camps and train athletes and provide space.
When COVID hit, I think it provided a little of that opportunity.
And throughout the summer, I kind of touched me.
base with Parsons and asked them to start looking around for buildings in town.
I said, I need at least 20 feet high.
It's got to be about 100 feet by 100 or 100 by 80, something like that where I can fit
a legit high school basketball court.
There's a lot of buildings in town.
There's not a lot that have that 20 to 24 foot ceiling anywhere.
He ended up finding this building and we went in and B. Fisher owns that chunk of land,
as you know, and went in and there's been a diesel repair shop in there.
I don't think B. Fisher had touched a lot of it for like 10 or 12 years.
It was not in great shape, but they were very good to negotiate with.
And that's kind of how we got the ball rolling because being a basketball coach and playing
basketball, there's been lots of things.
You know, you see new rings open up or outdoor facilities for hockey, but there hasn't been
anything basketball specific.
And if you look in bigger cities in North America, this is popping up.
So ours now here in Lloyd Minster, we really got rolling on that end of August.
And here we are.
It was a pretty quick turnaround.
We're the first kind of basketball-only facility in Saskatchewan, which is...
I just...
You kind of glaze over that.
You started this in August?
August 15th, we got in the door to start doing the work, yeah.
For people, like, imagine a giant warehouse that has been used by diesel repair shop.
And turning it into like, man, a super cool, clean, looking sharp, gym.
Like, you've done an amazing amount of work in a very, very short period of time.
And the reason I say that is I got in this, I think it was like May 5th, and it was the end of May when this got to where it's sat now for the last, right?
So that's like half the time to do your lobby, your bathroom.
That's what it took me.
So to do an entire facility like that, man, you must be working 24-7.
Well, we had a lot of help.
So myself and my partner, luckily for me, he was a teacher, Tanner Brightman.
So obviously both companies are ran together.
So he was up quite a lot on the weekends and late nights, and we had a lot of community help.
My dad, my Curtis, a bunch of people that helped out whenever they could.
Because that's one of those projects.
when we came in there, there was a dividing wall right down the middle.
And we posted on our story today at Golden Ticket Sports Hoop Factory,
the beginning to the end.
I think it was like 26 pictures in our slides.
And I looked at it.
I'm like, oh, my goodness.
I forgot what it looked like right off the start to like look at it.
And if you skim through it, it starts with a dividing wall in the middle.
That was day one.
It's taking down this dividing wall.
And then going from there and getting that down and scrubbing the walls
and scrubbing the dust off everything.
and it's kind of progressed.
So we had a lot of help.
It took a lot of late nights,
and obviously my wife was super helpful in handling those three kids
he kept talking about, but if you, yeah,
if you're looking through the Instagram feed,
it'll start you right from the beginning on the build.
That's right at the start there.
So that's the dunge.
And like I said, B Fisher was great about everything.
They helped a lot in getting the building up to where it needed to be
for us to get athletes in.
The final finish came.
We got the floor done and ready to go last Saturday.
At 4.30 a.m. we finished the floor and we had kids on the floor at 8.30.
So we left at 4.30.
How much were you shitting your pants?
Oh, man.
The shipment was late.
The flooring in the hoops was late coming in.
So, and one of those things, classic starting a business, nothing quite works out the way you wanted to.
Everything's a little bit late.
their shipping was delayed at customs, blah, blah, blah.
But we got it done.
I looked at my partner, Tanner, and I said, what time is it?
He's like, it's 4.30.
I'm like, hey, we got to take a nap.
I got to be on the floor at 830 with these kindergarten kids, my daughter's age group.
So we got it done.
And all the work was worth it when you see the little kids came in and they're kind of looking around.
But when we had, we had a soft open that Saturday, and everyone's coming in and their phones are out and they're filming and posting pictures.
And just to be able to provide a space like that for the kids.
community and hearing the feedback in the first week that we've been open here, it's, it makes it
worthwhile because you realize the value that you can provide to local athletes tonight. We got a
volleyball practice in there. We had 20 kids in there for drop-in. Before that, we had Filipino
league practice. Like, there's all these different groups that are using it and staying in their
cohorts. And it's, it's pretty amazing to see. And as you see this finishing up here as you're
sliding through it, it's, yeah, we're very proud of it. It's just, I'll be honest, I'm just so tired. I
even process the pride that we have in what we've got going right now.
I just think it's a cool, you know, as the photos are rolling through here,
and I would suggest anyone should go to golden ticket sports.com.
On Instagram, just to see what we're talking about.
You can check out a bunch of the pictures and see some of the cool artwork and all that.
Like, it's a cool spot.
When you go back, if you rewind it back to the first time you've,
roll into this building and take a look at it. Did you go and like, yeah, this can work? Like you could
just envision it? Yeah, we did have a vision and Tanner and myself had both seen a lot of places like
this and one of the inspirations came from when we played in Paris because we did play in something
very similar to this. But we had a vision in our head and the funny thing was in that picture
even there. My dad's helping us and dads are the best. But my dad would come in and be like,
yeah, I don't see it. This isn't going to work. This is terrible. This is
awful, right? So if you don't know what the end result's going to look like, so for him, you know,
I had to tell him after the first week. I'm like, hey, I want you to help, but you got to stop talking
about it. Just stop talking about all these problems. Holy crap, man. Wait a second. Yeah, you got to go back
those last two pitches there. So that's the finishing touch. So that's the bird's eye shot right
there of the floor and the hoops in there. There's only, I'll make sure I post this on when when this comes
out. So if you, if you're just listening to it today, I'll have some pictures up at the Hoop Factory
on my pages as well. That way people can check it out. But man, yeah, sorry to cut you off, but it is
unbelievable how far that building has come from when you started. Heck, when I brought the kids
there and they saw it, right? Like your kids mopped up some of the dirt. That's right. That's right. Sorry,
carry on. You're following. I think that's one of the things. So a lot of people, they come in there,
and a lot of people were helping out
and it's hard to envision.
If you don't know what the end result looks like,
it's hard to say,
oh, this is going to look really good.
So I had to tell my dad to be quiet for a while.
I think my mom gave him a second lecture on being quiet.
But as it progressed,
you can see when people are coming to help out,
they're stopping the stair.
As soon as we got it painted,
it kind of added the wow factor, the black.
And then you add the artwork,
and now you kind of got a cool factor.
Well, there becomes a point in any project,
whether you're building the house
or renovating something or doing what you did.
It's like it's getting closer to the peak or getting over the hill,
whatever you want to call it,
but where other people can see the vision, right?
You walk into the first day and you go,
you're going to do what in here?
And then day four, more people, oh, yeah, I see what you're kind of saying.
Day seven, day 20, day 40.
But once it's all painted, I mean, by the time we were in there,
I was like, oh, I get what you're doing.
Yeah, this is kick ass.
Yeah, it really came along.
And once again, this is one of those things that community always,
supports these type of things
and I think the support has been
fantastic and it's been a lot of
roll up your sleeves and get in there and get dirty
but I think hopefully this pays up
down the road obviously there's little kinks we're working out
but everyone walks in and sees
the floor and the space and the
comments have been great and the
social media posts. How has it been starting
a business right smack in the middle of a pandemic?
You know we just talked about your
basketball season and how frustrating
that has been? Yep.
How has been opening a business?
in the middle of this? I guess for us it actually worked out well the timing because the schools
aren't renting their gyms right now because of the risk factor. So we have to be super careful
with our COVID waivers, our daily check-ins, our sanitization, the same thing that every other place
is going. But we are able to provide a facility that is open to the public. That is open to the
public and kind of same as service center. You've got to book in your times and you got to book in your
rentals. But it's giving a lot of these people, like I said, they're coming in to play basketball
and they haven't played in months.
They haven't done anything.
So they're just excited to be in the building.
So COVID has actually provided a bit of an opportunity for us.
And I think last time we were just chatting privately,
it's also provided an opportunity for us on the coaching development side,
which our Golden Ticket Sports does.
We've been able to interact with a lot of national level coaches,
professional coaches, similar to your situation,
people that we wouldn't have access to.
And now all of a sudden we're getting,
David Blatz and Andre Lamont as the Australian national team coach to do private sessions
or to do coaching clinics with us, which before probably don't have a shot at. So COVID's created
an opportunity that we've kind of seized on. It's also created a lot of problems in terms of opening
a business and cash flow and all those fun things that happen with COVID to everyone,
unfortunately. So this is a positive. Just think when you, you know, a year down the road,
like you're going to have so much experience on multiple different things.
You know, there's lots of problems.
If you started this a year ago or whatever and things were rolling,
maybe you don't get as much traction for all I know.
I would probably agree with that.
And I think anytime you've done this as well,
starting a business,
you learn a lot about yourself and your vision and what your passion is.
And as I've said to you before, many times,
my passion is coaching.
My passion is sports.
And this is a chance to give back in the,
a sport that I am coaching and currently involved in.
I think that that's what makes me so happy is to see these kids in there playing, right?
The adults and stuff, great.
But to see kids enjoying the facility and being able to play and work on their game, it
makes you happy.
And it makes all that work worth it.
But you definitely learn a lot about yourself and what's in it.
And I think our company stayed very focused in what the goal was.
And now there's a potential of us partnering with other cities to do the same type of project.
because we did break water in Saskatchewans,
so no one's really done this in those hoops,
as you saw, their MBA-style hoops,
college-style hoops,
so they're portable.
Most places move them on forklifts.
We're moving them by hand,
so we're working through the process.
We have hand-pump hydraulics.
We're trying to get some people in town
to make us electrical hydraulics,
because there's all those little things
that when you face those problems,
you're like, oh, oh, this is a big issue we're going to have for a while,
which is a good thing because we're changing our facility
from volleyball to basketball so often.
But I'll tell you what, my right arm
from pumping that hydraulic on those
hoops and getting the wheels up,
I'm looking forward to someone getting us
electric hydrolics in there
so I can just push a button, man.
But it's, yeah, it's very humbling
to do this kind of project.
It's been cool to watch from afar, right?
Like, I don't know.
I've never really known anyone to take on something
I shouldn't say that.
I've seen lots of companies start.
I know lots of guys who've started companies.
But in the sporting world,
this just doesn't come along that often
where you're, you know,
we all know I'm a hockey guy.
It'd be like essentially me building a rink.
I mean, renting a building or buying a building
and converting it into a rink.
I mean, that's a little harder said than done.
But that's the general idea.
Like, it's super cool to watch.
I mean,
was this always the plan like did you or did this just did you just kind of see the writing on the wall
with all the gyms closing down and go maybe there's a play here yeah it wasn't always a plan
and our company started as coaching development so it wasn't like hey in five years or in this is
we just had our one year anniversary here last week of our company so this is all happened in
our first year we've done all these clinics and we opened a second big of the second
business per se that wasn't our vision but it just kind of trended that way and we had talked about
a building and it'd be great it works out well me being here coaching at the college and being a local
here i think i think that helps a lot with the building because we're able to run some programming on
the weekends in early mornings and it still allows me to do my full-time job and it allows us to kind
of venture out into other things so if you told me a year ago that i was going to open a facility in town
that was going to be basketball, volleyball specific.
I would have said you were high.
But here we are.
I'm seven days in.
It feels like it's been a year and a half.
Lots of people using it then?
You rattled off like five or six different years.
Are you full?
You got open space.
Yeah.
No, we are definitely full.
So we had to make sure we're staying under our numbers.
So making sure we're staying under 30.
So I didn't anticipate even like our drop in times,
booking drop in times.
We're having like a wait list of 20 people on our drop.
up in times right now.
We're booked with some volleyball camps,
some basketball camps,
ladies league basketball, men's league basketball,
ladies league volleyball.
That's kick ass.
Yeah, so tons of people are using it
and they're being really respectful to have a facility
and they're following all the protocols,
which is the number one thing.
They're doing their daily check-ins and now it's like automatic.
So the response has been great.
People are coming in.
They like it.
They're commenting on it.
Now, they could be being nice to me because I'm there
and I'm probably cranky at the door.
but no we're very excited to have all these people and like I said when you walk up to that building and see that building you're like we're going to go and where and then you open the door and you're like oh yeah this will do yeah and tonight there was a there's a kid that hadn't been in there and I just happened to be there when he walked in and I heard him talk he's like oh man because you look it's an old tin building just like any other industrial and to walk in there with that kind of art and the floor and everything in there and
Now, of course, we got music playing and stuff.
So it's got a cool vibe.
We're very excited about it.
We're very proud, but more so we're proud that we get to give back to the community that, as I've told you before, I felt like I got to take so much locally from sports and how to give some back to kids is pretty cool.
It's cool.
It's cool to have in the border city too.
Yeah.
Like, it's a cool little feature that we got here.
I'm wondering, you know, I've told you this before.
You used to play in the Monday night pick up basketball league over at the Holy Rosary ball court,
a bunch of white guys who suck at basketball and it was never their first sport minus like one guy.
I'm sure if you filmed it, it would probably bring most people to laughter, maybe even tears,
maybe even rolling fits, how bad the basketball is.
I'm wondering if there's space for that group of Yahoo's at this new facility.
It probably is you're going to have to book in events.
But you know what?
I'm getting a lot of hockey teams wanting to come in and...
Train?
Or just use it for...
Just use it for like an off-court, off-ice training, right,
to come in and play five-on-five and let them muck around.
Because it is good training.
And honestly, you guys coming into the gym?
Who cares?
Are you having fun?
That's all that matters.
I never judge anyone playing basketball,
just like I never judge anyone playing hockey or ball.
If you're having fun and you're enjoying it,
go hard.
Go as hard as you need to go.
Like, I'm sure you guys that don't play basketball at a time.
When you guys play, you have a hell of a time.
As long as I'm not playing Chris King, yeah.
You can't be too skilled and you can't be, we play prison rules is the way I put it, right?
There's no fouls.
There's no fowls.
There's going to be a little cluttering and grabbing going on.
I remember my wife's brother who was a basketball player.
He's, I don't know, how tall is mad.
Probably like 6'1.
Good basketball player.
He came and played with us one time.
And when he got home, Mel went to him.
I said, well, how was it?
he goes, well, I wasn't very good basketball,
but they allowed like pretty much anything goes,
which made it really interesting, so it was a lot of fun.
That's awesome.
That's so good.
Yeah, well, you get a short stocky guy who plays hockey for a living.
We're not too worried about double, well, not the double dribble part,
but the contact part.
I don't even get basketball contact makes sense.
It depends where you're playing.
We've talked about it before the flopping and the NBA is something else.
But if you're short, you get in under the ribs,
You get some cheap shots under the ribs.
You probably get to hack a few times
where no one's calling a foul anyways, right?
I always tell my kids when you're,
this was me,
the shortest player on the floor all the time,
you get to foul 10 times more than anyone else
because the refs aren't going to call it
because that's 6-8 guy, you slap them on the hand.
You should be able to finish, right?
So when you're short, you got to be cheap.
That's the way it goes.
Before we move off the hoop factory,
how do people, if they want to get,
they want to see schedules,
they want to book in, any of that,
how do they get a Woldia?
Where do they go?
Yeah, so they go on our website, GTShoopfactory.com.
You can see all of our schedules, all of our camps are on there.
You can also go on our Instagram, GTShoopfactory.
Everything's on there, your daily check-ins.
We're pretty active on our social, Facebook as well.
You can find us.
But if you go on our website, you can see the calendar for the rest of the year.
That's the problem right now with booking time is there's not that much time available
with all the bookings right now and the little buffer we have to have to sanitize.
change everything over but yeah you can find all the information you need and if not you can
email us gtis who factory at gmail.com or call 708704478. There you go okay there's your plug
that's a great plug moving on now now you mentioned the NBA and I've been I've been waiting
you haven't listened to the latest brothers round table where we we absolutely uh let's be very
clear here the newmans are not basketball players right um we act like we can play some ball because
I love being a Pemto, but realistically, we were never basketball players.
Right.
So when we watched LeBron, Carter round his trophies and talk about respect,
all I could think of after we berated basketball players on their last roundtable,
and I'm sure there was a couple guys be like, these guys are a bunch of Yahoo's.
All I can think of was, well, I got Kinger coming on.
I can't wait to pick his brain on LeBron James.
The Lakers win.
Maybe I'll get some respect now.
What's your thoughts?
Okay.
Not a LeBron fan at all.
He's the biggest, strongest athlete in the league, right?
Or one of.
No, no, no.
I was going to say, like, that might go further than basketball.
That guy's a giant.
Yeah, if we're going to say, like, the top athletes in the world,
that guy could play NFL for sure.
100%.
The fact that he whines and is a baby all the time is just so annoying.
And it makes basketball look bad.
And the problem is now some of the other superstars complain all the time.
The thing with no fans is you heard them chirping the refs and call them for fouls all the time,
which I thought was hilarious because you know that stuff happens.
LeBron winning was tough.
I'm a Lakers fan.
I couldn't cheer for the Lakers with LeBron there because most people that cheer for LeBron are a LeBron fan.
And what I mean by that is these kids growing up now, they cheer for an athlete, not a team.
I'm a Tom Brady fan.
Don't get me going.
Well, we can get into that after.
Yeah, I struggle with the LeBron thing.
Now, hey, going back to your brothers, I play hockey with them at lunch,
and they cry quite a lot if they get tripped or slashed.
So I don't know.
Paul calling the kettle black, and one of them's worse than the others,
and he knows who it is.
Oh, who is that?
Oh, now you get, oh, he'll know.
Next time he's there, he'll know.
I'm going to bring that up on the next round table.
You're not going to give me a name?
Oh, no.
You tell me on your next round table,
who complains the most at hockey?
Okay.
Interesting.
The boys will probably hear this,
and if they don't,
I'll remember this for the next roundtable.
Who complains the most
out of the four brothers on the ice?
Yeah, because I played against all of them,
or with all of them.
That's going to be good.
Anyways, regardless,
I don't love,
LeBron's a great advocate for a lot of things,
and I think he's done a lot for,
like, social media and social justice,
but the NBA game,
I can't stand that flopping.
I like it when guys, you said you watched the Jordan Dock, right?
When guys are going through each other and you have to earn it and stuff.
I just, I don't even like the fact that he jumped teams and then brought arguably a top five player
to leave his team just basically straight up quit and demand a trade to come play with the Bron.
I just, I don't appreciate that.
I appreciate drafting players and bringing them in.
I appreciated Golden State before Kevin Durant, that championship, bringing all the guys, right?
the Kevin Drant thing kind of soured it a little for me.
100% it soured it.
Yeah, but the thing is, you were good, you won a championship before,
and then you got Kevin Drant, and he's like,
wait, I'm going to go join the best team.
That's the softest thing you could possibly do.
Go win a championship on your own or build something.
I think that that's been lost a lot in sports
is that culture piece to the organization.
Don't you think it is, I'm being hard on the NBA,
but the NBA just feels like it's so prevalent.
Like it's just, it's there,
and it's so, like, obvious that, you know,
LeBron, you talk about guys cheering for a player and not a team.
I was a LeBron guy when he went back to Cleveland.
So when he left, fair.
And I don't think too many people were happy about it.
Actually, I thought it was a huge dick move
because I'm like, if you're going to leave your hometown team,
don't make a documentary about it, don't make a decision about it.
That was brutal.
You're dragging everybody through the muck.
But when he came back, I cheered really hard for him to win.
I remember being a BPs and was out on a date night,
and I'm sure Mel hated me that night because I was like watching it.
And I, by no stretch of the imagination, watch a ton of basketball games,
but I was like glued to the TV for that one because it was cool.
And he brings a championship back to Cleveland of all places.
And then when he goes to Lakers and everything going on there,
I just, yeah, soured me on him.
But I feel like that's the NBA thing to do.
Try and build these conglomerate teams of –
Yeah, I'm super starts.
I think it comes from their AAU, right?
So now kids playing growing up, you're not getting the best players in the state.
You're getting the best players from all over on these five or six AAU team.
Same with the prep team.
So they're used to just going wherever the best players are to play together.
So when they get to the NBA, and I think the NBA is different than a lot of sports in the sense that I think they don't have helmets on, right?
It's not like football that they're not covered up.
They're visible.
They're visible all the time.
You also know when you see an NBA player because they're 6-8 to 6-9.
You can see them in a club.
You can see them anywhere.
So I think they're very aware socially.
They want to be on the best team.
They want to be in the end.
And let's be honest, you look at like an average NBA player making $13, $14 million.
I think there's some entitlement that comes with that because they are viewed.
They are paid.
I think that they feel like they can have a little bit less connection.
Now, that's not everyone.
I just, I don't love some of the things about NBA.
If you're asking me about Fibah Europe, NCAA, love it.
Love, love the game, love the way it's played, but some of the NBA, I just cringe at.
So that's coming from a basketball guy, and I know that sounds awful, but that's the reality of it.
NBA playoffs, I watched early.
I watched early on, I watched a lot of stuff early on, and then as it became evident,
the Lakers were going to win, I watched less and less because I couldn't stomach to watch LeBron play.
that bad.
What did you think of the bubble?
I thought no fan, how they did it, how the NBA did it.
I thought they did a great job.
I thought they did a good job with the testing.
I thought when they brought in the families, that was good.
I was really impressed the way they did it.
And then the WNBA followed.
Hockey obviously followed, right?
I was a little shocked that baseball didn't go to it,
but I'm kind of not shocked the way that baseballs ran a little bit.
In NFL, they do whatever they want anyways.
so but I was impressed that NBA was able to get it done and make it safe for everyone
it sounded like there was glitches but they worked through it and I think
they made the best of a bad situation
now when the NBA comes back it's just like when hockey comes back
can you have a league for a whole year without fans
well I've heard the numbers and I don't know if this is right so maybe I
shouldn't be saying that I'll fill everyone's head with nonsense
but I heard um
Brian Burke saying it the other day
that 50% of what NHL teams make comes off the gate.
I would bet it's high.
And I think the number is much lower for NBA
because of their contracts with the TV and stuff.
But that wouldn't surprise me.
So how do you knock off 50% right off the get-go?
Is everyone going to take a 50% pay cut?
No.
So now you're looking at, and once again,
by the time this comes out, things could change, right?
But now, okay, we're going to start January 1st.
No, we're going to wait January 15th so we can get 50% capacity in there.
So now let's say the Oilers game, they're seating 50% capacity.
Are you charging double now to make up that money?
$20 beers?
Yeah, instead of $14, $50 or whatever it is.
But yeah, no, it's very interesting what they're doing.
And I think NBA could get away with it for a while.
I also think the only other sport that could get away with no fans is NFL.
I just think NFL makes so much money.
It doesn't matter.
NFL owns a day of the year.
It is absolutely, I don't know, it's cool.
I mean, the NFL is, I mean, it's Sundays, right?
Like, I mean, it's just, and I mean, even the Monday nighter, the third, like, everything they do.
They own everything.
They own, like, it's so, but they have what is so cool about the NFL and no other sport can do this.
At least, I mean, you can give me the argument that another sport can.
But they play so few games, that's unreal, right?
Like, as an athlete, do you love playing 60 games?
80 games?
No, baseball 162?
No chance do they love that?
Play 16 games.
Every game means something.
Right.
And so when you tune into the NFL, I mean, you turn into, I don't know,
the Miami Dolphins versus pick a team and you're like yeah this game means a hill of
beans sure but for most Sundays there's like three four games that are like and you better
tune into that yeah big big time games big time yes and it's got meaning to playoffs it's got
implications for draft picks and whatever else so you take you take what the last 10 games maybe
last five games of the NHL is,
and then the first round of playoffs.
You take that type of atmosphere
and string it out over a season
and that's what the NFL's got.
I mean, baseball, you know,
you can use the analogy on any sport
and put it into what the NFL.
They got playoffs all year long.
That's what it is.
I think that's why the NFL fans,
they will never go away from it, right?
Like, I'm sure there's a lot of NHL fans
at times have been turned off
by things that the NHL's done or whatever,
and they probably still
came back. NFL fans are not going anywhere. It doesn't matter. You're going to watch your six or
seven home games and you're going to pay. I got the, my cousin has tickets to Seattle. So they have
season tickets. They live in Victoria. They fly down for the game. So we got to go. My dad and my brother
and a friend, we went once to that game. 10 a.m. The tailgate, it's full go. That was like a 2 p.m.
kick. It was full go the whole morning. I couldn't believe that people are still standing. But it's,
like a cultural thing and the more people I talk to I realize like this is this is one of the seven
games that we get and I'm taking tomorrow off work I've already booked it off a year in advance and
and we're going and we're going hard and it in the atmosphere is unbelievable it's a full day affair
well I mean I've been to NFL games now and like green green bay was something else you can't
You know, maybe if you watch the TV, you can pick it out.
But I remember watching Green Bay games and just green and gold, green and gold and whatever.
But when you show up, the stadium is in the middle of residential.
Right?
Yeah.
So you're tailgating in someone's backyard.
You're actually pulling into their backyard and setting everything out.
Then everything is Camel and Hunter Orange.
I was dressed from head to toe and Hunter and Orange.
I thought it was a joke.
And then I got there and went, oh, I'm going to fit right in.
Right?
Yeah.
And it's cold, but they love that.
And it's windy and snowy and whatever.
They love that.
And it is just like, it's go time, like you say.
And then, I mean, my wife's from Minnesota, so I've been to the new stadium.
The atmosphere in there is like, then you go to an oiler game and no offense to the oil.
But you go to an oiler game and it's just a regular season game.
They're playing Chicago and they're down 3-1 and it is silent.
You're like, man, how is there even a comparison?
No.
I don't think there's anything close to it.
And being on a lot of oiler games, especially in the New York,
building you always feel that I haven't been to a playoff game obviously but in in that
new building you're like oh my gosh like this is gorgeous but it's so hollow whereas when you go to
NFL everything's on top of you and the other cool thing with NFL is you think about that one game
how many jobs it provides in the community just that little chunk of the year you know
September to December all the pubs you probably paid someone 20 bucks to park in their yard or
something oh guaranteed and and so did a bunch of other dues 100% yeah and then
then you were paying for something hot dogs.
Like you just think the whole way and then you think after all the pubs when you go back into town.
Like it is a whole lifestyle thing.
You know, God, I don't know why I talked about the NFL all night long because that's what they do.
But even, right, it's first down, second down, third down.
And then the big horn goes off because you got to shut them down.
You got to shut them down on third down, right?
And the place is going nuts when, I mean, God, that experience.
if you could bottle it up or put it to any other sport.
That's what they're all trying to recapture.
That's why nobody goes.
And on top of that, I feel like COVID screws up the NHL.
So everybody around our area, let's talk Lloyd, Saskatchew and Alberta.
The NHL playing through the summer months.
Man, I know so many.
Like, I know there's people out there.
I watch it every game.
Yeah, that's great for you.
Most people were at the lake.
We're outside and didn't do two craps once Eminton was out,
once the Canadian teams are out, they had other things going on.
The NFL hasn't skipped a beat, is right in their wheelhouse of this is when we're playing,
and we're going to play, and we're going to carry on, and that's what they were doing.
And so it's like you haven't missed anything.
And so all the NFL people, right into it.
Yeah, they're going to go no matter what.
Did you think when you were watching the hockey games, I felt that basketball, not bad without fans,
because the camera's been close enough.
Football, not bad.
They can pipe in the noise.
But hockey, when I watched it, it just felt.
blah.
Yeah, it just was like, because the camera's out so far, and it doesn't matter what you do.
You're like, oh, my God.
I'm sure the players felt intensity, but it just doesn't look good on camera with no fans.
Like, you just know that that's a, I think of playing in any rink you played and even in senior hockey and no one in the building.
It's like my wreck game at lunch.
There's no one there.
Someone scores a goal, and you're like, good job.
Good job, man.
Good job.
Nice pass.
Like, it just, duh, dead.
So I can't imagine that for them.
But NFL can do it.
NFL can do it.
You know, the other one I thought, I thought they did a good job.
Like I think it looked really good, but it is baseball.
When you're in the World Series and the building is going nuts and you can just feel like, holy crap, one pitch and they're done or one.
And, you know, the amount of pressure on those players.
When you get however many thousands of fans are jammed into those buildings and like the,
But, you know, it's like, I thought baseball missed out on having no fans, too.
Or having, I mean, at the end, they had a few fans in there.
9,000 or something like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They did figure out the piping of the sound a little bit as that went on.
Because when I watched the Braves fan, so I had to watch that crushing.
Oh, crushing loss.
But it did feel, I was arguing with a buddy, and he's like, oh, there's got to be 20,000 people there.
And I looked at the attendance, and it was nine.
But with the piping of the sound, it actually sounded like a home game or an away game.
So, yeah, I just sucker for punishment on baseball watching that.
But it's, I can't wait to see fans and to feel those atmospheres.
When it's back.
Yeah, and just think about, you talked about hockey.
Hockey regular season isn't played at the intensity of playoffs.
It can't be.
You can't play a whole 82 games like that.
You can't play 60 games at high intensity.
Well, even at the end of playoffs, like all the broken bones and how guys are playing through
and how many guys you got to pull up just through the NHL playoffs.
but how is intensity going to be in a no-fan season in game 40?
Holy.
Guys are going to be faking injuries all over.
I bet you Connor McDavid gets like 160 points.
Just kills it.
Because it's rec hockey.
Yeah.
You hear the OHL?
I saw that.
No body contact?
So you're an OHL player.
You're asking to be traded, right?
I don't, I honestly, I don't know.
I've said it on a previous podcast.
I'm like, I feel like the NHL is slowly moving towards no body contact anyways.
This is just going to speed it up.
The game shifted for sure, but it's like now even the minor hockey rate,
they're shifting that, the hitting for COVID and stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just don't know.
So those OHL, OHL dub the Q, that's the mini NHL, right?
You're trained exactly for the NHL every step of the way.
So how are you preparing those guys for the NHL?
If for a whole calendar year, they don't have any.
contact you're just you're you're you're you're costing those guys money and draft spots and
contracts whether it's in NHL or Europe like and yet if they get to play the WHL right now isn't
going to start until what is it January 1 is it December it's one of those two I I'm spacing on
the date but out of province stuff yeah right like they're they got their got dub guys are
going back to junior eight teams right now for between
the AJ and the SJ,
any team can have up to four dub guys on their teams
for the next six weeks or whatever it is.
It creates a really good Junior A league when you're playing.
When you can't have any fans to go watch it.
Can you imagine go and watch the Bobcats?
And there's, you know, you've got all these local kids
that are in the dub and they all come back
and play for their hometown team.
You would have a sellout every night.
And all they can have is whatever the number is,
150 fans.
Yeah.
Like it's got to be hard.
And you got to watch online.
I know.
and that's the best quality you could ever get getting those guys back in the building and the excitement that you would have.
Yeah, it's brutal.
But once again, Dub O.
I thought the O would be okay other than the outbreaks, but the dub, you got the states and you got so many provinces.
That's why the AJ and the SJ can go is because you're just staying within the province.
This is why Lakeland struggles with ACAC right now because we are under SAS Health.
Everyone else is under Alberta Health.
So that puts us in a weird spot being on a border city.
The one time that being on the border is not great.
A benefit.
Yeah.
I remember growing up playing for Team Sask and Team Alberta because you could go either way
within 20 kilometers.
That's a benefit.
This not helping.
Not helping.
But yeah, all the sports are suffering.
So those kids, pro sports, you talk about it like all the way down.
And I talked about this, our last talk that we had.
Think about all these hockey players that don't get to play.
they were supposed to get drafted, or I'm now recruiting grade 12 basketball players that
haven't, they didn't finish grade 11 and they are not going to play in grade 12.
And I'm expecting that kid to come in and play college off of what I saw in grade 10.
There's no other games.
There's nothing I could see.
Some of these kids haven't even been in a gym to work out.
So I am praying that this kid is still okay and they're going to come in to college level
of not touching the ball in 18 months.
How is that going to work out?
I can tell you how it's going to work out.
out well. It's not going to work out well for these kids unless they're getting in the gym.
So everyone's getting knocked up with that.
Can you imagine if you could rewind the clock when LeBron James is in grade 11 if he didn't get to play his high school years, how that would affect it things?
You wonder who might have went to college?
You wonder who will be the winners and losers out of what's going on?
Because some kid's going to maybe he wouldn't have caught your eye.
Maybe now because, or he caught your eye in grade 10, but as he went along, he didn't.
or whatever have you.
Now he's going to get a spot or she's going to do a spot not a heat.
And maybe they'll be a great surprise to you.
Could be.
You know who's going to win out of COVID though for athletes?
Is?
Is the ones that have the genetic gift, right?
I think the hard workers,
the ones that work all the time on their skill and grind it out
and do little things right.
If you can't play or practice,
what's a coach going to see if he sees just a small sample size?
the talent, the jumping, the running, the stuff that catches your eyes.
When I go watch a basketball tournament, there might be a kid that I'm like,
oh, that kid works really hard or she does this really well.
And the more you watch her, the more you fall in love with their game.
And you're like, this is going to make us good.
But the one that catches your eye is the one that jumps over everyone or runs faster or does something.
Yeah, they have the genetics.
And that might not be the best player in the long run, but that's the player that everyone gravitates to.
So in terms of hockey, you see that skill and you're like, that's the guy I need.
But the guy that you need to center your second line that's going to take all your face offs and kill penalties for you doesn't get seen as much.
That's what I worry about.
So I think you're going to see a lot of mistakes being made on the recruiting thing.
I can't talk for hockey.
I can just talk for my sport.
But I know exactly what's going to catch our eye if we get to see anything.
And it will be those kids that are genetically gifted, I would say.
Last dance, before we get to the final five, I've got to ask you about the last dance
because you were hot and heavy for the last dance.
And I believe on the COVID roundtable, it was either just about to come out
or the first couple episodes that just come out.
Now, I know it's probably the best thing that happened in COVID.
If people can believe it, my wife and I literally sat and watched it together, right?
It was like, I don't know, pick your TV show you want.
You want Game of Thrones?
which was fantastic,
or maybe you're into Gray's Anatomy
or The Bachelor, Bachelorette, something like that.
I don't know, just spitting out names.
It was a show that we marked on the, it's Sunday night,
we're sitting down, we're watching.
Yeah.
It was unbelievable.
So that was the era that I started to shift a little bit,
being a hockey player shifting into basketball
because I got to see Jordan on WGN in the 90s,
which was unbelievable.
So anyone that got to see Jordan,
they are,
this is why I struggle with the LeBron Jordan thing.
To me, it's not close.
To win a game, a single game, a championship, it's Jordan.
It's not LeBron.
I would always put my money on him.
I will so that no one's going to tell me different.
LeBron's career over the lifespan might be better,
but Jordan's a killer.
And you see that in the video,
Jordan's an absolute killer,
which, by the way, I got to talk to Clark about getting Jordan
to sponsor so he can have a job man.
on hoop factory.
That's got to be done in the...
When you do that,
let's get them on the podcast too
and we'll blow up everything.
Good.
Let's just hammer that from all angles there
because a jump man under the hoop factory
in Canada,
that would be deluxe.
But going back to that,
watching that whole process,
I think it made me like Jordan even more.
So I've watched it now three times
because now...
You've watched the entire thing three times?
Yeah, so I work out with the girls
and you have to supervise the weight sessions now.
So I've got to be in the weight room
when the girls work.
out in the mornings, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. So when I go on the treadmill, episode one,
I started it over again and now I've watched it through again. I just, the way that he,
his competitiveness comes out and the way that his teammates respect him, even though they know
that sometimes he crossed the line, that ultimately it was about making him better, making the team
better. I think that was the coolest thing. And they see my athletes talk about it coming back and
talking about watching it.
All my kids watch it.
And my girls don't watch basketball.
They don't.
But they all watch that.
They all texted after every episode,
like the things that they liked.
So we even had a chat about like,
what did we take from the last dance?
Because I didn't need to watch it as a team
because they already watched it.
As a hockey guy,
what was your biggest takeaway watching that?
I'm flipping it back on you here just quickly,
but what was your biggest takeaway?
Well, you understand why Jordan transcended basketball.
Like, he is one of how many athletes that are just larger than their sport.
Tiger Woods was one of them.
Yeah.
Tiger Woods now has a little bit of a smear all over them.
We all know why, right?
Yeah.
Back then, Wayne Grexky was certainly one of them, right?
But Wayne Grexky is kind of like the ridiculously nice guy.
Right.
They never let you into what he...
You've never heard a bad story about him.
Right.
where seeing Michael Jordan like that, you're like, man, he does not have an off switch.
Like it is, that scrimmage game where they're playing the Dream Team, I think?
Yeah.
That's unbelievable.
Yeah.
Like that is unbelievable.
Now, me being a guy that loves sitting across and picking guys' brains,
a, the Dennis Rodman leaving thing is.
Unbelievable.
The way Phil Jackson handled that is unbelievable.
And if there's one guy, you know, obviously Jordan,
if I could get anyone off of that documentary,
I'd take Jordan in a heartbeat to sit across from.
But my number 1A or 1B or whatever we want to call it is Phil Jackson.
I got to read his book.
I got it on my list.
And I never had Phil Jackson on the list of like,
man, I'd really like to get him.
He was not on it.
But after that documentary, damn sure.
on it now like you'll like his book you'll like it his his his mentality is I always
heard he was the got to understand I'm a you know I didn't fall basketball that much like
yeah you follow the great ones and and I remember everybody being Chicago Bulls insanity
back in the 90s but I guess I just didn't really and Phil Jackson greatest coach ash or
whatever but hearing him talk and hearing he's mesmerizing it's interesting
The other thing I also take from the entire documentary is,
no matter how good something is,
somebody is always going to be there to be like,
yeah, we got to change things up, we got to do, right?
Like, how can ownership and the GM be like,
you guys are getting too old, you can't do this?
Like, it's like, man, just ride that until it falters.
Just go, go, like, go until they can't go anymore.
Let Jordan play out his career there and be done.
It's kind of like trading Wayne Groskey.
but staying on the basketball those are non-bastable guys making those decisions so when I when I
it's funny you brought up those points because Phil Jackson to me Steve Kerr's are really getting there
but Phil Jackson's so unique the way that he handles situations I thought uh Steve Kerr would be number three
on my list of guys I'd like that yeah and Kerr's a unbelievable speaker so I bought Jackson's new book
three ring circus so it talks about the time with the lakers with Kobe and shack and all the stuff
that was actually happening and how he handled it
and it was absolute chaos.
But he kind of had a way of handling everyone separately at the same time.
So when you hear Rodman talking about stuff,
which I thought that episode was so unique
because he's talking about this is the craziest guy in the NBA
who wears dresses and dives his hair,
but he goes into the gym for hours
and has his friend shoot hoops
so we can figure out which way the ball's going to bounce.
And he was so similar, my takeaway was he was so similar to Jordan
and he had just one unique focus.
Jordan's was winning, and Rodman's was,
I'm going to help us win, but I'm just going to rebound the play D.
Like, this is my thing.
I can just do that.
And I thought that was pretty cool to see how everyone kind of,
a little bit of absorbed Michael's personality.
And then the time that Michael got emotional,
I really enjoyed that part where you can tell there's some regret
in the way that he treated his teammates,
and they said that there was two times he stopped taping.
One was when he talked about his teammates, he said, I never made them do anything that I didn't do myself.
And the other time was when he was talking about his dad.
And I thought that was pretty unique that when he's reflecting upon how he treated his teammates,
you can tell it ate him up, but it was just about winning.
And he would do it the same because he knew that got them to the end goal.
I thought that was pretty cool when he said pause there.
I thought they filmed it well, it was directed well.
It was really impactful to me.
And it was perfect timing that it came out in COVID.
Because it had all the eyes of the world, right?
That was good.
That was good television.
That was, I heard that Golden State had been offered to have cameras go with them, and they declined that.
Yes, I think they did.
They did a mini, I think there's one coming out on Kobe's last year, but it's not the same.
I think it was because they knew it was his retirement, but Golden State did decline that on
their last run.
Right?
Like, I mean, don't get me wrong.
Having cameras in everywhere would be uncomfortable, I'm sure.
But the footage it creates for down the road is unbelievable.
I got to say, seeing them drink beer in the training room after and have cigars on the road.
I think that's pretty cool because I don't even know if they're allowed to do that anymore,
to be honest, but just to like see that kind of thing, that's pretty awesome.
Well, let's go into the Crude Master Final Five.
I know you're probably up until two in the morning doing work on the old hoop factory,
so I don't want to keep you here all night as you rub your eyes.
Hey, no one's bothering me too much yet.
No text from the wife.
We're okay.
Well, shout out to Heath and Trace McDonald,
supporters of the podcast since the very beginning.
I've got five for you today, all right?
If you were to get a headline, a late show,
whose late show would you want to go on?
Well, I think, so I'm a big fan of Jimmy Fallon.
I find him hilarious.
But I started watching David Letterman's news.
I know.
So I watched the Chappelle episode first, and I was just blown away.
So it would be David Letterman.
I think seeing him in like those hour sit downs, he's so unique the way that he can connect to people.
And, yeah, so Letterman for sure.
God, I'd like to interview Letterman.
And he was at the peak when we were growing up.
I know.
That was the show.
That was the show.
Yeah.
And to see him come back when he first came back and I saw that.
I'm like, ah, yeah, whatever.
And then I watched the episode and I'm like, oh, my God.
Like, yeah.
He's good.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
This air is on Wednesday.
Okay.
The election is on Tuesday.
Yeah.
I don't want your choice.
I want who you think is going to win, Trump or Biden.
Or Kanye West.
Might as well be
Kanye West the way the U.S. is headed.
I don't know.
It seems like it's going to be a mess.
I'm going to say Biden,
just because I think the recent events,
and I think some of the major promises
that didn't get followed through on
might hurt him.
It might not in the long run.
I think this is going to be one of those wild things
that, like, whatever happens, whoever wins,
there's going to be ballots missing or votes missing.
or some kind of collusion.
I don't think this is going to be pretty.
And I think the thing that we can all agree on
that we've seen in the U.S.
is the deterioration of politics
and what democracy stands for, in my opinion.
I think their system's broken.
But I would lean toward Biden,
just would be my guess.
But also, Hillary was supposed to win last time,
and she didn't.
She got more votes, but didn't win.
And by the time this is tuned in Wednesday,
we'll know.
And both those guys could,
easily be done by Wednesday because they are getting up there in age. My goodness, two of the oldest.
Like you look at Obama, Obama's still younger than those guys. So we might have someone totally
different in there. Who knows? If they were to recreate one basketball movie and they brought
Chris King in to headline said movie, I, I rattled off. I'll rattle off some names.
for you just so you can have a few.
I got it.
Coach Carter,
Teen Wolf,
Hoosiers,
Space Jam,
white men can't jump,
he got game.
That's,
in my mind.
Those are all good ones.
Did I miss one?
Above the rim.
Do you say above the rim?
That's a good one.
No,
I haven't said it.
Blue Chips is good with Shaq
and Penny Hardaway.
It's like recruiting violations.
It's pretty good.
Those are all good.
I'm surprised you came up with that list.
That's a good list.
I mean,
you did your homework.
Yeah.
Well, and those are some good movie.
I mean, Coach Carter.
Actually, the one I was going to put in there, but I haven't seen it yet, is the new Ben Affleck one.
I haven't seen it yet.
It looks good.
It does look good.
I heard mixed reviews from basketball people, though.
Okay.
Well, I mean, yeah.
I mean, how can you?
Denzel is my man.
Denzel is rate high on the list.
Me too.
If I ever get a chance, I mean, I'm going to be pumped.
But, like, he got game was awesome.
Yeah.
White Man Can't Jump Woody Harold.
So for me, that's my favorite of all time.
White Man Can't Jump?
Yeah, I just love the dynamic between him and Wesley Snipes and the back and forth and the talking smack and the taking money from people.
So my high school graduation present from my basketball coach, Mike Curtis, who was helping at the facility, he got me the DVD of White Man Can't Jump.
And I still have it to this day.
But yeah, just the back and forth in that is unbelievable.
But blue chips would be right.
behind for me because it's like a coach grasping his straws and breaks all the rules he
buys a guy a tractor he gets another guy's mama house and a job and just to win so um yeah i would
love to be Woody harrelson because i think doing a movie with Leslie Snipes would be best the best yeah
well actually but it wouldn't be Wesley Snipes because it'd be a remake so who would who'd be your
co-star who would you banter with who would be able to give it back it has to be someone
athletic enough
because right now
I'm thinking
as comedians and that wouldn't work
I was thinking Chris Tucker
but that's what that's what I was thinking
first one in my head
because it would be so funny
but then I'm like
can he play ball
okay let me come back to that
at the end and see if I can get someone
someone that's pretty athletic
because you just I think about
a lot of sports movies
and Wesley Snipes is pretty good
in a lot of those right
major league like unbelievable
I don't even know
he can play baseball but he talked smack and stole bases right so he was a big fan of
wesley i got a hundred of these one for every bag i'm going to steal yeah uh he was in the fan too
wasn't he yeah yeah yeah that was a great one yep he was in the fan he had a string where he was in
he was like really really really good yeah asked this one i think i asked this one uh maybe the
10 or Novelin, I can't remember now.
If you got to be in a celebrity
WWE match and you could pick
one wrestler to come be your tag team partner,
who would you take?
It could be current and past.
I mean, W.W.E. brings back people all the time.
Right. I think I would have to take the rock
just for like what he's accomplished.
My favorite wrestler was the ultimate warrior growing up.
He was my favorite wrestler by a mile.
But I think I'd have to take the rock.
rock just because of all the little extras and known what he became. But the Ultimate Warrior
was out of control. Would you put on the same? Oh, same offer. Yeah, for sure. Think of this body
right now with those on, not seeing the sun for months. Yeah, that would be me for sure. Ultimate
Warrior was pretty good, but the Rock was pretty, he was pretty unreal, that little stint he was on
there before he took off with the acting and everything like that. The Rock is also on my list. Okay,
I asked you last time
if you were a fan, a spectator,
what final game of what
major sport would you go to?
So now
we asked this on the
Brothers Roundtable, and now I'm curious
your thought. If you were
an athlete, a player in a game
and you could hit the buzzer beater,
hit a walk-off,
score an O.T.
Or catcher run-in
the winning TD, no time left.
of the championship games.
We're talking game seven MLB, the World Series,
game seven of Stanley Cup finals,
game seven in the NBA finals,
or the Super Bowl.
Which one would you want?
Yeah.
Is it a walkoff a home run?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, walk off home run.
Walk off dinger?
Yeah.
You're not sticking, you're not, you're not quiet.
Hit, no, Jordan last shot would be like unbelievable.
Yeah.
A walk off dinger hitting that where you're rounding second
and seeing your team coming out.
And then getting a home and doing the helmet talk.
Yeah.
Walk off dinger.
You underestimate the baseball side of me sometimes.
But, yeah, walk off dinger, I think.
Imagine your bat flip on that.
I don't, I don't, if you hit a walk off dinger,
I'd probably run with it to first base.
And I'd probably be sprinting because I would be so shocked that it happened.
But the feeling of hitting a home run is so different than any other feeling.
And I say this all the time.
A wood bat ball hit squarely.
the crack in the way that it feels,
it is the best sporting sound.
It's better than like the swish of a mesh or chain
or like bar and in on hockey.
It's just the best sound and feeling.
It's a pure sound.
Yeah.
And the only peers,
the other pure sound that comes to mind immediately,
although this is obviously biased to me,
is the sound of a puck on fresh ice
with nobody there and it echoes.
That's a great sound.
Do you like the puck better or the skates when you're ripping the ice by yourself?
Puck.
Really?
The skates is great.
Yeah.
But the puck is what reminds me of like a frozen pond.
You're outside.
It's cold.
It's crisp.
And you drop that first puck.
It's a great sound.
Getting romantic here about sports.
Yeah, no, that's awesome.
Did you play any ball through the summer?
Co-training ball?
Baseball?
Yeah.
Yeah, we had like an eight-game season or something like that for a senior.
So I played, I don't know, played six of the games as a way on vacation.
It's funny. I never asked you. You're right. I never asked you about ball. As soon as you said that, I'm like, it's not like, don't.
Yeah, well, it's a weird season. So we played us older guys. We'd play four innings and the young guys would play three innings. And it was awesome because it was a social outing. But like the first couple games, everyone had to travel in their own vehicle. Baseball, no spitting on the diamond, no sunflower seeds. I can tell you by game five. I saw seeds. I saw chew. I saw beer.
On the bench, like for after the game, like it was back to senior baseball.
But the first couple of games, like, I'm sort of like, okay, no chew, no seeds.
Is it really baseball without those two things?
No, it is not.
No.
So, yeah, I was thankful I got to get out.
I got to do something for a little bit.
It was a very, very short-lived.
And the downside when you're off that long and you're old is you get sore really quick.
I ran at a men's league run on Monday night.
I haven't played basketball in four years.
I played for like 25 minutes.
every muscle my lower body hurts
and I skate quite often
skating's nice because you can glide in turn
you have to move your legs in basketball
to get to the end
you're saying hockey players are soft
no I'm just saying I like in hockey
when I'm dog tired that I know I can make a big
you turn and get halfway back to my end
I might not get back there to back check
but at least it looks like I'm trying
running running I'm on one spot bent over
holding my knees and everyone's like
what are you doing
Well, I appreciate you coming in.
It's always a pleasure having you in Kinger.
Yeah, thanks, man.
It's always entertaining.
It's good to sit down with you and wish you nothing but success here with Hoop Factory and Golden Ticket Sports.
And look forward to seeing what you guys do here in the future.
Well, thanks a lot.
Thanks for having me on, as always.
And you keep getting bigger and bigger.
So don't forget about me here in the future.
Likewise.
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We didn't get to football.
We were supposed to get to your old Brady hard on.
Oh, well, let's do it here for two minutes.
Sure, your Steelers are 7 and 0.
Yeah, defense, man.
Best coach in the league as well.
Best coach in the league.
After hours, we back.
Yes.
He won the little NFL talk.
We talked about the NFL and tailgating,
but we never actually got on to the current season.
So fair.
I am a, I was a Patriots fan,
but I was not a Patriots fan
because I was a Tom Brady fan.
Everybody gets sour when I say that.
So now I'm a Buccaneers fan.
And when Tom Brady retires,
I'm no longer a Bucks fan.
I will be a Vikings fan because I've been to Vikings games.
My wife is from Minnesota.
and I know going to college in Green Bay in Wisconsin.
The Wisconsin people are going to hate me for saying that,
but the atmosphere in Minnesota is unbelievable,
and I'm going to hopefully get to experience that for the rest of my life
at least once a year, which, I mean, I can't say that for any other team.
So going to all this, I'm a Tom Brady fan.
I follow the guy.
He is the best.
You can't argue him.
Everything about the guy is unreal, except the only thing that frustrated me is I went,
I just retire a patriot
That's the only thing that bothered me
But now I'm seeing them as a buck
And having fun and maybe the
Rains are a little loosened
Grongs back
Oh my God
This is why this is after hours
Because I would have just walked out
If you started with this
I would have left
Like I
You're gonna have to wipe the mic off
There's gonna be puke on the mic
From this Tom Brady love
Oh my God
Okay
Yes
He should have stayed
At Patriot
That would have been the noble thing to do
That would have been the noble thing to do.
But because he's so arrogant, he wants to prove that he can do it on his own,
which he's not going to do it on his own, but I will give him credit.
He went to the best possible situation.
I think he's answered the question, Belichick or Brady right now.
Belichick's team is playing third stringers.
He's got guys not playing.
Oh, my God.
Get serious.
Get serious.
So you got Tom and Tampa who cannot throw like a 10 yard out now.
It's like five-yard dumps all the time.
Just dump it off.
Thank God.
Grunk. Now, what is this week? Seven? What week are we in? I don't even know what week run, but regardless, the first three weeks,
Krunk looked like he was still on the party cruise. It looked like he hadn't really played football. He probably was on the party cruise.
Yeah, now it looks like, oh, he can block and run and there's some there's some grunkish things. But Tom Brady is Tom Checkdown. Let's be honest. He cannot throw the ball like he used to. The guy can't even remember what down it is this year. That's how old he's getting. Three, four.
I will give you credit. He's a competitor. He wants to.
wants to win. But he is in a really good situation in what we would probably say a little bit of a
weaker division this year. I would agree. Him making playoffs I think is a big plus. How long does he
play for down there? When does it go south? Because I have to believe the paths are going to be
good within a year or two. It's just inevitable, even though they've had like 10 bad draft classes. He
figures out a way to get it done. And the Newton thing seems to be a failure. But I thought the
Newton thing was going to work.
When they signed Newton, I was like...
It just so many hiccups in his game.
Just like fumbles and just not doing things that he should have done all the time in
Carolina.
Like that one year in Carolina was such a one-off.
Yeah.
Right.
But anyways, I don't know if I can handle you cheering for the bucks just for Tom.
Why?
Why does that bother you so much?
Listen.
Pick a team, man.
No, no, no, no.
No, okay.
You can cheer partially for him.
No, no, I'll bring it back to why I do this, okay?
Can I tell you why I do this?
I'm a die-hard oil fan.
It almost brings me to tears when they lose out of the playoffs
or do awful things or suck as bad as they do.
It trains life from me.
But you're used to it.
It's true.
And what I said was after that, I said,
you know what, no more of this.
I can't do this across four sports.
This takes up too much from my brain.
Like my brain hurts.
My body hurts.
And then they get McDavid and dry saddle
And they should be just like
Fun to watch and you go watch after games
And you're just like
What are they doing out there some days?
Like fuck
But that's me
Right to the core
Okay
That's what I cheer with the soul for the Oilers
Okay
And I swore never again for any other sport
Because I just can't handle the ups and downs
I can't handle a team missing the playoffs
For 10 bloody years
It is painful
Right
So what I did was
Is
I remember when Tom Brady got the call up that
playoffs, right? And I was like, oh, and I kind of heard so,
and that's kind of cool. And then they win, whatever, and you're like, oh, cool.
So everybody goes, oh, you're a patron fan because they won. I'm like,
well, kind of. I don't know. I like Tom Brady. I like what he talks about.
I like that, you know, that he's a pretty clean cut guy and he's not a jackass,
and you call him arrogant, and I'm like, I just think he's confident. I think it's awesome.
And so I did that with that. And then when it came to basketball,
When LeBron came back from Cleveland, I went, I'm going to cheer for Cleveland because I like LeBron.
I like what he's doing.
I like that he came back and owned up to it.
I liked that he won.
And then he goes to L.A.
I'm not a Cleveland fan anymore.
I can care less about the Cleveland Cavaliers.
And I'm not a LeBron fan in Lakers because he just, I don't know, he kind of is a jackass and he's in L.A.ers and whatever.
But I just, I can't do that with teams.
I can't just.
I got my sport
I'm an oiler fan
and once I stray away from there
after Tom Brady retires
I'll become a Minnesota Viking fan
alright in the NFL you're going to hear me
I'm going to be green and gold
green and gold
I'm seeing Wisconsin
I stuck in the man you got the wrong team there but
purple purple
I just don't like being held down to teams
I like cheering for athletes
why can't I cheer for an athlete
what's so hard about that
so basically
what you're telling all your listeners is you got your sports heartbroken so much
and it hurts you so much you can't cheer for teams because you're just so heartbroken
about it now this is that's what sports is about the pain of losing what you do with the
oilers I'm a brave friend you know how much loot like we're really good and we barely ever win
and I take chirps all the time I'm not leaving that I'm not leaving the Steelers but but
but how I guess my question is then
How did you fall in love with the Braves?
TBS.
Maddox-Smoltz-Glaug.
Back in the day, that's fair.
Chipper Jones.
They were on TV once again.
That eastern time zone,
watching the games after school.
I fell in love with them.
Even to this day,
all my friends that are Jay's fans
chirped me because, obviously.
Yeah, and so I don't know.
I struggle because, you know,
everybody hates, well, not everybody hates,
but a lot of people hate Barry Bonds,
but I remember the Barry Bonds years of the San Fran Giants,
and those were really fun to watch.
I guess I just never,
You know, I don't have this memory of growing up watching the NBA
and watching the Lakers win a championship or the Celtics
or whoever you want to throw in there.
So to me, I guess it's hard to get on, I guess tomorrow, if you like,
I could put up a dart board, we could throw a dart,
and I can become a, oh, give me somebody random, a New Orleans,
what's their basketball team?
Pelicans.
The Pelicans, sure.
You want me to do that?
I mean, I can do that just to say I got a team.
This sounds like a charity event is what it sounded like.
Yeah, well, it kind of is for the NBA.
I mean.
So will the Oilers love not die then, no matter what?
McDavid's gone.
Oh, no, the Oilers.
That sting.
Yeah.
So it's just the other sports.
It's just the other sports.
I have a hard time.
I always grew up.
The only thing that kid, I'll clarify this.
Oilers, Rough riders.
Oh, okay.
But in fairness to, and now maybe, you know, I tell you what,
I got to get into a rush game.
Because growing up in Saskatchewan,
we had no pro sports except for the Rough Riders.
So you cheer for the Ruff Riders.
It's why Ruff Riders have so many damn fans.
Saskatchewan has nothing else.
Now we've got the Rush in Saskatoon.
I'd like to go watch it.
I hear it's phenomenal.
I hear it's a great event.
Well, let's do this and let's make this a plan.
Non-COVID, let's say next spring, summer.
We go watch the Rush and we'll watch the Sebel.
Professional Basketball League in Saskatoon.
Professional Basketball League in Saskatoon?
Yeah, so Eminton's got a team.
The Rattlers are in Saskatoon.
The Stingers are in Alberta.
The Rattlers won two years ago.
So I think there's six or eight teams.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Did you say basketball or baseball?
Basketball.
Yeah, Siebel.
They've done a great job marketing.
They had a bubble.
They were the first...
And all the basketball people are like,
this guy's a moron.
That's great.
No, it's all good.
But it's, it was the first league back in a bubble.
they were doing their championships before anyone else.
So they got everyone in the bubble in Ontario and did a little championship.
Well, it better be better than the one, I've been to one NBA game.
I want to watch, which I want to watch the Minnesota Timberwolves play the Cleveland Cavaliers,
post-Lebron, and Kevin Love didn't play.
It was beyond terrible.
That's rough.
I can't imagine that.
Am I going to have a better experience than that?
No.
well you should in theory because you're going to have a close game these games are really high scoring
i i'm going to guess that the rush is going to be like more jam-packed and loud and stuff but the
the sebo games are really high scoring there's a lot of like guys that are playing pro overseas there's
some university guys mixed in there's certain rules that you have to have like development players
and stuff i think it's really good for the sport if they can keep it up they've got some like cbc
broadcast and stuff like that so we should do that and hit the minor pro sports and support
and see what that environment's like.
I'm game for that.
Yeah.
I'm game for that.
That's how you got off your Tom Brady love.
We got to.
After all that, you still judge me on Tom Brady?
Yeah.
I just...
Wait, do you got a sport?
Do you got a team for each sport then?
So...
Your Pittsburgh Steelers,
who are having a fantastic season, I might say.
Yep.
NHL, you're an oiler man?
I have, yeah, have to be just growing up that way
and my connection.
Baseball, you're Atlanta?
Yeah.
And...
Lakers.
Lakers.
Except for Lebron.
Except for this year.
You can't cheer for your team when they win a championship.
I can't cheer for them with LeBron.
What kind of fan are you that can't cheer for...
Because I'm loyal to the team and he's such a...
He signifies things that I don't like about pro sports.
So when he's done playing, I will be a Lakers fan again.
I cannot stomach.
I was not cheering when they won the championship at all.
at all.
Is there a player that could affect your love for the Edmonton Oilers,
the Atlanta Braves or the Pittsburgh Steelers in the same way?
No.
That they acquired?
Yeah, that they bring in and you're like, you know what?
I'm just turning my love off for the team.
You give me a hard fucking time.
Yeah, no, that's fair.
And they get the little, your team just won a championship
and you only would have a celebratory champagne.
You're like, no, screw right.
That guy sucks it.
I'm done with that for a year.
I would have a tough time swallowing Jeter
because I think Jeter's amazing
but Jeter in the day going to Atlanta
that would have been tough.
I just, Yankees, I despise everything, Yankees.
I would have a tough time if Tom Brady was on the Steelers.
I think I'd quit cheering for the Steelers
if I'm being honest here.
Who else did I really not like?
I'm just thinking of guys that I cheered against so hard.
Yeah, those two.
Randy Johnson, maybe I hated Randy Johnson back in the day.
A guy who blew up the pigeon.
Yeah, one of the greatest memes of all time.
Hockey-wise, it's not really the same.
And basketball, just LeBron.
I could probably handle anyone else.
I'm trying to think who else.
Carl Malone, when Malone went over there for that year at the end, that really.
Now, the flip side is Steve Nash could have played anywhere,
and I would have been a Steve Nash fan.
So.
You're not allowed to follow a class.
I know.
That's your rule.
That's what you're talking about.
I know, but as a Laker fan first,
Lakers were beating out Nash every single year,
but I had that little soft spot right in the bottom.
You must have a couple players in the NHL that you got soft spots for.
You got a little man crush on.
Well, one of them isn't playing anymore.
He played for the arch nemesis.
Jerome Gimelow was fun to watch.
That guy was...
Two-way.
He did everything.
Fought, scored.
Man, always smiling.
I would have loved to have seen him in an oily uniform.
It would look funny.
It would have looked funny.
Probably wouldn't look right.
Probably, you know, no, no.
I don't know.
Other guys, Duncan Keith, he's like one of my favorite defensemen all the time.
But, you know, he's slowly aging up there.
Right.
Yeah.
And it's just that sports passion.
And like I said, my players, they don't cheer for teams, just athletes.
And I'm sure our kids, when they get older, they're going to cheer for athletes
and it's going to drive us nuts.
You think so?
It'll drive me nuts for sure.
No, no, no, you think they're actually going to cheer for athletes, not sports?
Yeah, I would say, like, my girls that watch sports, they're athletes.
They're tuned into athletes.
And they will change the team that they're cheering for depending, like, I have Tori.
So I really hit a sour spot with you with Tom Brady.
No, I'm just getting really upset.
Like, okay, I'm a Bucks fan.
No, I'm a Celtics fan first.
Celtics are winning.
I'm a Celtics.
Oh, Celtics are out.
I'm only champ.
I could just, oh, my God.
Yeah, we shouldn't have even turned the mics back on for this.
I think it was just so angry about this.
There you go.
Now you know how I feel.
Well, thanks again, sir.
I'm glad I got you fired up.
You're not yawning anymore.
That's for damn sure.
No, coffee's kicked in.
I'm good.
I think it's Tom Brady's kicked in.
All right.
All right.
We'll leave her here, and everyone can laugh at this.
