Shaun Newman Podcast - Ep. #128 - Chris King

Episode Date: November 4, 2020

The coach of the Lakeland Lady Rustlers Basketball team is back in studio and we discuss the opening of his new facility the Hoop Factory, where the idea came from & opening up a new business in t...he middle of COVID-19.  Some other topics that come up is the life of 3 kid parenting, Lebron winning the bubble & COVID-19 restrictions in regards to getting the rustlers back playing. Let me know what you think   Text me! 587-217-8500

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Starting point is 00:04:22 heard about them on the podcast if you're interested in advertising on the show visit sean newman podcast.com in the top right corner, hit the contact button and send me your information. We've got lots of different options and I want to find something that can work for the both of us. Now, let's get on to that T-Barr 1, Tale of the Tape. Originally from Kid Scotty, Alberta, he's entering his 13th year's head coach of the women's rustlers basketball program. This past season, the wrestlers won the ACAC championships, the first gold medal in Rustler's basketball history. He's been awarded to ACA. AC Coach of the Year four different times.
Starting point is 00:05:02 He is a co-owner of Golden Ticket Sports, which is a relationship-based company that specializes in player coach, official, and multi-sport events, and they just opened up a new facility Hoop Factory here in Lloyd Minster. I'm talking about Chris King. So buckle up.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Here we go. My name is Chris King, and I'm back on the Sean Newman podcast. Okay, welcome the Sean Newman podcast. Tonight I am joined in studio. You know, you're slowly becoming one of the guys have had on quite a bit. Chris King, sorry, to give you a name. Well, this is my goal. Every time I see you get Redden and these guys up two, three, four times, I'm like, I got to get back on. So if I pay you
Starting point is 00:05:48 enough money, you say, hey, you can come on for 30 minutes and then I'll catch you off. So that's my goal. I just keep me up with the Joneses right now. That's, yeah, that's right, folks, pay me enough money. Yeah, right, right, right. Well, where do you want to start? I want to start actually, third kid because you last time we were on on the COVID roundtable me you to a mayor and soups you're expecting and now you've had your third yeah you're in the third kid life yeah how's a how's the third kid life bet you know how that is it's crazy it's crazy first of all I didn't have the kid my wife did I was there I'll be honest I've barely been around she's a saint this kid is your wife getting her
Starting point is 00:06:35 masters or something too? Yeah, she just started, she just started her master's. So she's at home with three kids. She's writing a test tonight right now. I started to do a quiz while feeding the baby the other day and I was like, you're so much better than me. What did you tell you were doing today? Well, I had to go, I had a little issue at Hoop Factory I had to go deal with. And then I said I had had a podcast and she just gave me the look. She's like, I'll see you tomorrow. I'll see you tomorrow. She knows a deal. No, yeah, third kid. Awesome. That kid is smiley. and sleeps good, I just wonder why they didn't make the other two that way, because it would have been a lot easier. If it would have been like that, we might end up with five or six kids, but I think
Starting point is 00:07:14 we're shutting her down. She is shut down, actually, officially. Is it shut down? Oh, yeah, shut down. Dr. Saeed fixed that situation for me, so we're good to go. What was the hospital experience like during COVID? Well, actually, when we went in is right when they took all the patients from northern Saskatchewan. So we went up the night. for delivery and in the delivery room there is if when you went to the right in the hospital it was regular delivery on the left side it was COVID wing so that was a little unnerving because you don't know is there anything that your baby can catch is it in the hospital is it all these things so I think it adds to a level uncertainty and as you know childbirth is the
Starting point is 00:07:58 most uncertain thing you can ever participate in period right yeah yeah I everybody knows my story by now about the third the third row that that was enough that was enough I every labor of Mel's they were quick right but they progressively got worse so I yeah enough about me no visitors though nothing no I believe when we went home actually my parents didn't come for well I think my mom saw the baby just because you don't know what you can contract and stuff so you're like sending pictures and once again we had two huge babies to start and this one comes out half the size so we're like where's the rest of this this kid right my son Nash was 26 and a half inches 10.6 pounds this k was uh i think six pounds and like
Starting point is 00:08:51 18 inch just tiny little thing so yeah so no one could come in and then you know my brother wanted to come to her and it's the whole keep your family away the germs because that was right in the height of not knowing anything and here we are months like and we still don't really know anything so it hasn't got any better as you know yeah well three children three children is a game changer actually I was just saying to Mel as I came over here we she was changing out pictures on the wall right you know and get your family photos done and then every year you kind of swap them out I assume most people do that anyways there's this old one and it's of Shea at
Starting point is 00:09:36 Her brother's wedding and so Two of her sibling How the heck does this work? That isn't true Her cousin's wedding her cousin's wedding You better get this right. Yeah, yeah yeah Better get this right So in the last since our kids have been born We had Shea and then we went to her cousin's wedding
Starting point is 00:09:54 And she was in the wedding party So I got stuck on baby duty Been there with one kid I remember being so Stressed You could just about I'm trying to get ready But I got you know I gave him a whole whole bowl of blueberries and his poop was blue and that I remember that vividly right that was one kid I'm looking at this picture and I'm going I remember being there I remember being stressed up by
Starting point is 00:10:18 one kid how was I such a pussy like I mean back then that was terrifying now three you're juggling you're just you know you're treading water you're just trying to survive that's what three kids is right it's literally go go go go just make it work because at the time that situation because I had a similar one with my brother-in-law's wedding, just Macy I had. And you're just like, oh my God, how am I going to do this? I have one kid at a wedding. I got a kid with pink eye. Now I got to like just, but with three kids, it's just you got to give up on one and just hope that one, hope that one is going to take care of someone else. And then you just target the weakest one. So I target Nash quite a lot because he doesn't listen to his mother. He's three
Starting point is 00:11:03 years old and he's starting to talk back so it's as much as I think it's hilarious it's not good so he's causing some issues in the split between the girls so yeah it's a great time with three kids you know how this goes it's just everyone says this train wreck gets better it doesn't look like it hey I tell you what so Mel's sister now so so we we went to her cousin's wedding with one right I was I was a guy looking after it then we went to her brothers she was in the wedding party as well and I had to look for the two and by the end of the day I was so done I was beyond done I was beyond done you needed a day off after like I mean I sat on the deck in silence and drank a marmalade or not a marmalade a koolet of some sort right like with a vodka and just sat there and she's like you want to talk
Starting point is 00:11:52 I just want to sit here in silence that was two so I've been petrified for the three and today I told her I was like you know by the time you know COVID may help me out because the wedding is supposed to be this summer. Now it's next summer. And I'm like, you know, I think it's going to be easier and two. Like I've come to, I think I can handle this because I'm going to be by myself with three children. You must have been drinking at the time. You know, the COVID, though, you hit it on the head that when you needed that time by yourself,
Starting point is 00:12:20 because my wife made a comment the other day, she's like, you realize in COVID, you would just say I'm leaving and you would just go driving for an hour. I'm like, I don't think it was that long. She's like, I would send you to get groceries that were. pre-package, so we'd go to Sobies, they'd deliver them, I'd get a coffee, I would literally drive around the outskirts of Lloyd and just not even think, just like zombieed out and I'd come back and she's like, it's been two hours. I'm like, oh, shh. I just, I just up and left lots of times. I'm like, I got to go. I got to go. It was not good for my mental well-being.
Starting point is 00:12:52 So it could have been the third kid. It could have been COVID, but you saying that you needed that zone out, I feel you. I hit the pause button a little too much during COVID. Yeah, your wife is taking her master's. Yeah, she just started her MBA. Is she a superhero? Is that what she is? Yeah, she's trying to be. I think like her daily goal is just to make me look miserable, like a terrible human.
Starting point is 00:13:13 So, yeah, she's better than me. I've admitted it before. So she doesn't seem to catch on yet. But yeah, she started her MBA. And I think it's executive management or executive leadership. And so I see her in there feeding the baby, working on her class. Meanwhile, I'm trying to play Barbies or hockey with the other team. So it's, yeah, it's not really a divide and conquer.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Shea spit up me tonight. That was the new one. Hmm. Hmm. How did that feel? Did it hurt you in the heart or just surface? Actually, I was, I don't know. It wasn't good.
Starting point is 00:13:50 But then he spit at his mother and that made it a lot, a lot worse. Yeah. It's taking it to another level. You know, I really hope someday, Chris, I really hope someday my kids go back through all these. Right. They probably won't. They'll probably think I'm an old boring guy or whatever, but I really hope they can hear that at She at age four and a bit spitting at me,
Starting point is 00:14:10 and that got him sent to his room, and I can already hear. And he was causing you grief. That's the thing they don't realize is they were doing something. At the time, they probably didn't realize it was wrong. I was trying to tell him, we just finished wrestling, and I was trying to just, like, bring him out of the wrestling stage. Okay, buddy, we got to be done, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:28 And he can try to jump on me one more time. I said, nope, we got to be done. and then, you know, anger erupted. He took it to another level. He took it to another level. I kind of like that, though. That's like next level. Okay, not to make it heavy parent corner,
Starting point is 00:14:41 I'm going to tell you one more, my son, Nash, my wife, he doesn't listen well. I think it's a boy thing. I'm not sure. And my wife always like, Nash, look at me, look at me, are you listening? Look at me. So the other day, he walks up to his mom,
Starting point is 00:14:55 puts his hands on her face and says, mom, look at me, look at me. And she starts to, smirk, just like you're doing right now, and he's like, I'm hungry. And I'm like, oh my God, you're going to get us both killed. And he knew he was being funny at the same time. So, yeah, those stories, they're funny and you're trying to deal with it, but you're trying to be a good parent while not laughing.
Starting point is 00:15:18 And I had to leave the room. Like, I was, yeah. Well, you know, parent corner or not. Kids, you always hear, you always hear people tell you. It's like one of the most rewarding, frustrating, blah, blah, blah things in the world. It's so true. It's the best. Yeah. And the worst, all the same time. Like, just some days, you're like, what, what is going on here?
Starting point is 00:15:40 So we've talked about this in private. When you think about your past life before three kids, what were you spending time with? Like, me and my wife, I talk about, what did we do? She's like, I have no idea. Did we go to the movies? Did we go out all the time? Now it's like, I'll see her in bed or maybe at lunch or she's sleeping. She comes in. I'm sleeping. Sometimes I don't even know we cross past. I don't know what happened pre three kids. I think that got blurred out of my memory, just like the earlier childbirths. It's just kind of like you're trying to push that aside. I parted a lot before three kids. Before kids. Before kids. Right. Lots of movies. Lots of movies. Lots of date nights. I was probably a helpless romantic some point in time.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Listen to this suck up right here. Good for you. You know, your buddy. You're I like at me because tonight folks we're drinking coffee and I apologize to all the local coffee burrs, but we're not drinking local coffee. It's too late for local coffee. Well, A, true, but B, I should probably talk to somebody. Mr. Tanner Appleton of Northman always comes up because I stop in there and have coffee at the little coffee shop. He's not going on every once in a while.
Starting point is 00:16:55 And anyways, I forget what I was talking about. What the hell was I talking about? Well, I think you're getting to be an on or off the wagon as well. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So before kids, you had time. You just, you had, I like being busy. I've always liked being busy. So back before kids, you're busy, but you had lots of time to just, like, piss away, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:19 and still you could get things done. Yeah. Now you can't piss away things. So for the month of November, you were making fun of me. I got this nice little, as my wife was like nice mustache as I was leaving, right? She hates it. Is that what that is? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:32 You wait. Yeah, you've been growing your beard for how long, you jackass. So a mustache for November. Okay. I've got two buddies out at Serafina. I do work with full-time working for Baker Hughes to deal with Serafina. So we got a challenge of which we tried doing, correction, I tried doing 5K a day with them last November. I made seven days, I think.
Starting point is 00:17:56 That's not bad. Actually, it was pretty good. And then I almost died. Like, I mean, I was a walking zombie because I was still trying to do this. and then run it like 11 at night. I almost kill myself. But anyways, so it's 3K a day this go around. And they said I could walk.
Starting point is 00:18:12 I'm like, all right. So today, me and the family went for a 3 kilometer walk. It's perfect. So mustache, 3K a day, and no booze. And this is a weird thing because I'm around you. You're every time we're together, you're off the wagon or on the wagon. I was going to call it. And then when I text you, you're like, let's have a drink.
Starting point is 00:18:36 But by the time we get around to it, that's right. You're like, coffee only. Kind of teasing me here. Does that piss you off? Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, it does. Just a little bit. I think the last time was that pre-COVID, that last COVID roundtip.
Starting point is 00:18:50 Yeah, we had drinks. We had drinks. And now we're drinking coffee, which is also good. But you got to say that you probably feel you're looking muscular. You're looking fit since I seen it. Looks like you've been pounding pushups all COVID. So I'm glad you're saying that. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:03 I feel out of shape. Let's leave it at that. But you got goals set for November. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, what that does, going back to it, is with three kids, that time is, like, non-existent.
Starting point is 00:19:19 So you can't have, you have the old late night feel like crap for three days? Yeah. Well, you started a bloody gym, man. You're sitting in this and we're owing and on about what this is. Well, it just doesn't happen if a guy ain't working at it, right? It's true. And so time has become, man, it's become important. It's almost scary.
Starting point is 00:19:42 I remember somebody telling me that a long time ago, and I was like, ah, yeah, old keys are now here I sit talking about it. We're getting older. That's that issue. We're getting older, and time's going quicker and quicker, and you see it when you look at your kids. I see it with the kids I coach, right? So 13 years, I see some of the players I coach now with kids
Starting point is 00:20:00 that are the same age as much. my kids so it makes me feel like maybe I didn't get a real kickstart life but everything happens in its own kind of realm so it's cool to see that happen but it's just blink of the eye things have changed look at you're in here now yeah well the first two you did were in the old we did one in that old room yep one around the board room table and now you're here yeah so next time when you get to the biggest office in Lloyd I want in on that one when this table doubles when that happens we'll make sure that the scotch bottles open I'll make sure that I don't schedule you in for a coffee only.
Starting point is 00:20:34 That's good. And I'm a Scotch, uh, wuss. So that would be a real, real quick drink for me. Speaking of, uh, seasons, basketball. Yeah. How's that been, we don't even want to go there. That's terrible. Um, no, I will give the girls lots of credit.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Um, so we started September 1st. So we, my practice plan for tomorrow, I believe is practice 38 or something like that. We're on. Okay. No games. No games in sight. We have 10 players because a few of the older players decided not to come back. So we are basically, we can go five on five, but we are looking at January probably 15th, 16th, 16th, as like the best case scenario. We're not going to be playing a full league. It's going to be some type of pot action. So I'm trying to keep a bunch of girls that are extremely competitive, as you know, anyone in college is extremely competitive,
Starting point is 00:21:29 in the right mindset for four freaking months playing each other playing each other I don't I give them all the credit because they're coming in their work ethics great we've had some great practices but like the only carrot I can dangle is in two more months we might play a game might now we're under the president's guideline SaaS health guideline whatever the school says
Starting point is 00:21:55 that's what takes priority right our school takes priority over anything else in each institution's different. So a few institutions have backed out of the season altogether. Who's that? Concordia's out. Augustana's out. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:08 So there's a couple other schools that will not compete this year at all. They'll just practice. And it sounds like there might be more schools that are going to take this route. So we might have a league. We might have a mini pod season where it's us, Keanu and Medicine Hat. And I've heard other rumors that it might be us in the huskies and the cougars playing in a sask league. we don't know it's it changes week to week so I'm trying to communicate with my players hey this is
Starting point is 00:22:34 what might happen this is where we're at and they've been awesome they do their weights three times a week they do their skills sessions they come to practice they haven't really hung their head but I have to think when they leave they're like I want to play a game like I want to kick someone's butt or get my butt kicked AJ HL is playing games yeah different pods different course AJHL doesn't report to an institution though, right? So post-secondary institutions, for the most part, are closed to the public, lots of them, right? Okay. So when you're closed to the public, you can't be hosting basketball games when no one's allowed in your facility. Also, our facility is under Lloyd guidelines, so we're looking at 30 people max. I know you're good at math, so if you put 12 players aside
Starting point is 00:23:17 and a coach on each team, now we're getting real tight. You throw in the officials. You can't even have a game day staff, right? So we're dealing with all these different things. as you saw Alberta loosened it up a while ago. Great. And then now it's tightened it up. So I do say AJHL, SJHL, this is my opinion only. I think that they basically got the release from in Alberta. It was basically junior hockey and university and colleges.
Starting point is 00:23:47 I think they tried to make exceptions to make sure hockey went. I think we all know hockey is Canada sports. So they wanted to make sure the junior A hockey system was going. them going to bigger pods is great because they can play games. Bigger pods for us means more risk. And the institutions look at it that way as now, instead of having a mini pod of 50 athletes, now you're looking at 150.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Now we might be playing a team from Nate who's exposed to how many more people and how many more potential cases. So it's very frustrating. But I would say our administration's been doing a great job of communicating with us. We're trying to communicate to our play. players every day something different we're all trying to stay positive the kids i have the most respect
Starting point is 00:24:31 for all the athletes that are here this year going to school and staying diligent with their schoolwork and doing athletics but it's super frustrating it's just it's not what you think it should ever be right and it doesn't matter are we finding a solution to covid soon doesn't appear that way right like this is going to keep going for a while so whether we loosen or tighten at know, the season itself doesn't look good. Ontario canceled their season already. So nationals got canceled. I think the other conferences will cancel.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Canada West canceled their season, right? So everyone's going to be playing makeshift exhibition games to keep their athletes on campus, on scholarship, coaches and staffs employed. It's not great. How confusing was that for you? Or depressing. A little bit of both.
Starting point is 00:25:24 I don't know. The longer this thing goes, I just, I stare at and I go, would having basketball games go with nobody in the gym be that such a terrible thing? No. Would it be that much riskier? Probably not. Here's my thing about, I can only talk about my athletes, and I'm sure junior hockey is the same.
Starting point is 00:25:49 We try so hard to keep them safe. We're in our training pods. We wear masks in the school. In the gym, we don't wear masks. We're slobbering on each other, sweating and hitting each other, just like a regular practice. We can't monitor when they go home or if they go out. You know, my team, I'm trying really hard to keep them under rains. But if they go out to a party or to a restaurant or to anything else,
Starting point is 00:26:13 they're exposed to just as many people as they are in a basketball game, right? So it is impossible. Yeah. Unless you lock them up, it is impossible to monitor anyone. especially some 18 to 22 whatever yeah 22 like you kidding me yeah just think about what your coach if he said hey guys no parting at all this year you guys can only stay with your team you might do it if you're a really good team you might do it for a couple weeks but then you then you're hell even do the best case in a couple months yeah sure we're not talking like we're not talking just a couple
Starting point is 00:26:50 months eventually there's a uh something breaks the camel's back right just well we're at the couple of month mark right yeah people start going a little bit squirrely and they're like screw it like just screw up yeah that's all the society we've already seen that right I mean all you got to do is go out anywhere in Lloyd and you get both spectrums by now and I'm I was the guy at the start I remember well I mean the fear is a crazy thing right right at the very beginning the fear I remember standing in the Baker Hughes coffee room And standing against the one wall and just being like, I don't know if I should be in here, boys. Like, I feel pretty awkward.
Starting point is 00:27:32 And everybody's just kind of like spread out. Okay, well, and then it went like two months like that or of not seeing anyone. Right. And eventually, I don't know. It's just, it's all the way back to where it was before. And I'm just, I don't know. I'm not sitting here saying that I'm going out of my way to be dangerous by any stretch of imagination. If you're sick, stay home.
Starting point is 00:27:55 I think everybody's got that by now. But yeah, I think people are doing better with that. I just think anything you do, you're at risk. Here's one of a buddy in Oakland. He's now on month 10 of work from home, him and his wife. And he got told February at best he'll be back in the field, a landman. He's like, I can't do this. I literally can't do this at home every single day.
Starting point is 00:28:19 The mental health of some people, and you talk about worrying about COVID, but just even being at home locked up. And now it's wintertime in Canada, which means, You can't do hardly anything, at least in the summer, you talk about going for walks and jogs. You can go get out with your family. And if you're really concerned, you can still be really safe. If you're not as concerned, you're still being safe for other people. But now you're locked up.
Starting point is 00:28:41 What do you do in the winter? Like, what's the social events? I don't know. I honestly, I don't know. It's depressing. I know. I know. I was listening to Michael Campbell, I think it was.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Brothers listen to Michael Camel. He's got a, it's on a podcast. But he's got a radio show on 630 Chad for about an hour long every Saturday morning. Don't quote me 11 a.m. I think. And it's an economy podcast or show talks a lot about the stock market and that kind of thing. But he had a guy on talking about COVID. And he was talking about, I want to say, Thailand or Vietnam or something like that. And just the mental health aspect.
Starting point is 00:29:22 He said COVID, you know, in a 69 million population and killed, I think it was 58 people. they had 2,000 suicides since that and you're like well yeah I don't go so like the mental health of it oh yeah there's a ton of things not being talked about right now yeah and it's it's it's almost to the point of absurdity I get the the COVID part yeah but there's other things going on yeah at some point we all have to live our lives again or it's I don't I'm not sure our lives
Starting point is 00:29:53 actually go back to the way they were but even just in our building now seeing kids the first time they've been on a floor or doing something in months and talking to parents that have their kids playing hockey now where they're actually playing games. And there's just a little bit of excitement creeping, but they get to be kids again. They get to do sports and activities.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Like, think about your childhood, my childhood. It's all you did was sports all the time. Whatever season it was, you were playing some kind of sport. Could you imagine when you were 10 or 14, they said, hey. Or going into your last year, midget? Yeah. And all of a sudden that's... You're not playing this year.
Starting point is 00:30:26 You're not going to finish this year. and next year you might not get a chance to play. Nah, man, I can't. That's a, you know, going into, even to call it the multiplex, that building is eerie with nobody in it. When you're normally like hundreds of people in there at all times, right? Coming in going, yeah. It's just like nobody.
Starting point is 00:30:46 It's like, what is going on? This is straight out of some like. Horror movie. Yeah, thank you. Horror movie. Yeah. Yeah, I went in there once and I was like, it is eerie.
Starting point is 00:30:56 but so that's kind of where our season coming back from the COVID that's where our season's at right now and like I said that's that's such administration's been awesome everyone's trying to do their best they're trying to provide the best experience but it's if I'm being honest it's awful now we all still are well and I think it was you know if I remember the round table right you're the guy who is right in the middle of the season I'm both to head to nationals right and then COVID hits and it's just gone and now there's been like there's no way to get Even back to a game, which is crazy. Yeah, and I tell people all the time selfishly, that team had a shot at nationals. This year's team, the same group essentially would have had a shot at nationals again. We have like a three-year window where we're going to be really, really strong. So we lose that national chance. We lose this year's.
Starting point is 00:31:44 And then we have that one year left, which is crazy. But once again, other people are hurting in different ways. Oilers fans are saying the same thing. Next year. The next year. The next year. Well, I want to talk about the hoop factory. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:01 It's been, a, it's been super cool to, like, walk in and see, like, it's, I haven't even seen the finished product now. I've seen videos. You've got to come over to shoot your jump shots now that we're done. Well, have you seen me shoot a jump shot? Oh, but you told me you won your rec league, so you got some kind of talent here. You're hiding it from me. You know, on the way over here, I was like, maybe, maybe what we should do is me. there first have a game of one-on-one see how bad kinger beats me the first time then we
Starting point is 00:32:30 could actually joke about that but uh let's hear the story about how this this comes about because a for people who don't know uh or listening from abroad hoop factory is uh essentially a converted warehouse old dingy warehouse turned into a gymnasium now where they can train basketball, volleyball, athletes, essentially. Yeah, it was, so it started in COVID. So our company, Golden Ticket Sports, did a bunch of coaching events, and we were fairly successful with that. And, you know, as a basketball guy, I think one of the things that everyone always talks about is,
Starting point is 00:33:11 man, if we only had our own facility and we can run our own camps and train athletes and provide space. When COVID hit, I think it provided a little of that opportunity. And throughout the summer, I kind of touched me. base with Parsons and asked them to start looking around for buildings in town. I said, I need at least 20 feet high. It's got to be about 100 feet by 100 or 100 by 80, something like that where I can fit a legit high school basketball court. There's a lot of buildings in town.
Starting point is 00:33:40 There's not a lot that have that 20 to 24 foot ceiling anywhere. He ended up finding this building and we went in and B. Fisher owns that chunk of land, as you know, and went in and there's been a diesel repair shop in there. I don't think B. Fisher had touched a lot of it for like 10 or 12 years. It was not in great shape, but they were very good to negotiate with. And that's kind of how we got the ball rolling because being a basketball coach and playing basketball, there's been lots of things. You know, you see new rings open up or outdoor facilities for hockey, but there hasn't been
Starting point is 00:34:17 anything basketball specific. And if you look in bigger cities in North America, this is popping up. So ours now here in Lloyd Minster, we really got rolling on that end of August. And here we are. It was a pretty quick turnaround. We're the first kind of basketball-only facility in Saskatchewan, which is... I just... You kind of glaze over that.
Starting point is 00:34:37 You started this in August? August 15th, we got in the door to start doing the work, yeah. For people, like, imagine a giant warehouse that has been used by diesel repair shop. And turning it into like, man, a super cool, clean, looking sharp, gym. Like, you've done an amazing amount of work in a very, very short period of time. And the reason I say that is I got in this, I think it was like May 5th, and it was the end of May when this got to where it's sat now for the last, right? So that's like half the time to do your lobby, your bathroom. That's what it took me.
Starting point is 00:35:22 So to do an entire facility like that, man, you must be working 24-7. Well, we had a lot of help. So myself and my partner, luckily for me, he was a teacher, Tanner Brightman. So obviously both companies are ran together. So he was up quite a lot on the weekends and late nights, and we had a lot of community help. My dad, my Curtis, a bunch of people that helped out whenever they could. Because that's one of those projects. when we came in there, there was a dividing wall right down the middle.
Starting point is 00:35:52 And we posted on our story today at Golden Ticket Sports Hoop Factory, the beginning to the end. I think it was like 26 pictures in our slides. And I looked at it. I'm like, oh, my goodness. I forgot what it looked like right off the start to like look at it. And if you skim through it, it starts with a dividing wall in the middle. That was day one.
Starting point is 00:36:09 It's taking down this dividing wall. And then going from there and getting that down and scrubbing the walls and scrubbing the dust off everything. and it's kind of progressed. So we had a lot of help. It took a lot of late nights, and obviously my wife was super helpful in handling those three kids he kept talking about, but if you, yeah,
Starting point is 00:36:32 if you're looking through the Instagram feed, it'll start you right from the beginning on the build. That's right at the start there. So that's the dunge. And like I said, B Fisher was great about everything. They helped a lot in getting the building up to where it needed to be for us to get athletes in. The final finish came.
Starting point is 00:36:52 We got the floor done and ready to go last Saturday. At 4.30 a.m. we finished the floor and we had kids on the floor at 8.30. So we left at 4.30. How much were you shitting your pants? Oh, man. The shipment was late. The flooring in the hoops was late coming in. So, and one of those things, classic starting a business, nothing quite works out the way you wanted to.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Everything's a little bit late. their shipping was delayed at customs, blah, blah, blah. But we got it done. I looked at my partner, Tanner, and I said, what time is it? He's like, it's 4.30. I'm like, hey, we got to take a nap. I got to be on the floor at 830 with these kindergarten kids, my daughter's age group. So we got it done.
Starting point is 00:37:32 And all the work was worth it when you see the little kids came in and they're kind of looking around. But when we had, we had a soft open that Saturday, and everyone's coming in and their phones are out and they're filming and posting pictures. And just to be able to provide a space like that for the kids. community and hearing the feedback in the first week that we've been open here, it's, it makes it worthwhile because you realize the value that you can provide to local athletes tonight. We got a volleyball practice in there. We had 20 kids in there for drop-in. Before that, we had Filipino league practice. Like, there's all these different groups that are using it and staying in their cohorts. And it's, it's pretty amazing to see. And as you see this finishing up here as you're
Starting point is 00:38:11 sliding through it, it's, yeah, we're very proud of it. It's just, I'll be honest, I'm just so tired. I even process the pride that we have in what we've got going right now. I just think it's a cool, you know, as the photos are rolling through here, and I would suggest anyone should go to golden ticket sports.com. On Instagram, just to see what we're talking about. You can check out a bunch of the pictures and see some of the cool artwork and all that. Like, it's a cool spot. When you go back, if you rewind it back to the first time you've,
Starting point is 00:38:49 roll into this building and take a look at it. Did you go and like, yeah, this can work? Like you could just envision it? Yeah, we did have a vision and Tanner and myself had both seen a lot of places like this and one of the inspirations came from when we played in Paris because we did play in something very similar to this. But we had a vision in our head and the funny thing was in that picture even there. My dad's helping us and dads are the best. But my dad would come in and be like, yeah, I don't see it. This isn't going to work. This is terrible. This is awful, right? So if you don't know what the end result's going to look like, so for him, you know, I had to tell him after the first week. I'm like, hey, I want you to help, but you got to stop talking
Starting point is 00:39:29 about it. Just stop talking about all these problems. Holy crap, man. Wait a second. Yeah, you got to go back those last two pitches there. So that's the finishing touch. So that's the bird's eye shot right there of the floor and the hoops in there. There's only, I'll make sure I post this on when when this comes out. So if you, if you're just listening to it today, I'll have some pictures up at the Hoop Factory on my pages as well. That way people can check it out. But man, yeah, sorry to cut you off, but it is unbelievable how far that building has come from when you started. Heck, when I brought the kids there and they saw it, right? Like your kids mopped up some of the dirt. That's right. That's right. Sorry, carry on. You're following. I think that's one of the things. So a lot of people, they come in there,
Starting point is 00:40:17 and a lot of people were helping out and it's hard to envision. If you don't know what the end result looks like, it's hard to say, oh, this is going to look really good. So I had to tell my dad to be quiet for a while. I think my mom gave him a second lecture on being quiet. But as it progressed,
Starting point is 00:40:31 you can see when people are coming to help out, they're stopping the stair. As soon as we got it painted, it kind of added the wow factor, the black. And then you add the artwork, and now you kind of got a cool factor. Well, there becomes a point in any project, whether you're building the house
Starting point is 00:40:47 or renovating something or doing what you did. It's like it's getting closer to the peak or getting over the hill, whatever you want to call it, but where other people can see the vision, right? You walk into the first day and you go, you're going to do what in here? And then day four, more people, oh, yeah, I see what you're kind of saying. Day seven, day 20, day 40.
Starting point is 00:41:06 But once it's all painted, I mean, by the time we were in there, I was like, oh, I get what you're doing. Yeah, this is kick ass. Yeah, it really came along. And once again, this is one of those things that community always, supports these type of things and I think the support has been fantastic and it's been a lot of
Starting point is 00:41:22 roll up your sleeves and get in there and get dirty but I think hopefully this pays up down the road obviously there's little kinks we're working out but everyone walks in and sees the floor and the space and the comments have been great and the social media posts. How has it been starting a business right smack in the middle of a pandemic?
Starting point is 00:41:39 You know we just talked about your basketball season and how frustrating that has been? Yep. How has been opening a business? in the middle of this? I guess for us it actually worked out well the timing because the schools aren't renting their gyms right now because of the risk factor. So we have to be super careful with our COVID waivers, our daily check-ins, our sanitization, the same thing that every other place is going. But we are able to provide a facility that is open to the public. That is open to the
Starting point is 00:42:07 public and kind of same as service center. You've got to book in your times and you got to book in your rentals. But it's giving a lot of these people, like I said, they're coming in to play basketball and they haven't played in months. They haven't done anything. So they're just excited to be in the building. So COVID has actually provided a bit of an opportunity for us. And I think last time we were just chatting privately, it's also provided an opportunity for us on the coaching development side,
Starting point is 00:42:33 which our Golden Ticket Sports does. We've been able to interact with a lot of national level coaches, professional coaches, similar to your situation, people that we wouldn't have access to. And now all of a sudden we're getting, David Blatz and Andre Lamont as the Australian national team coach to do private sessions or to do coaching clinics with us, which before probably don't have a shot at. So COVID's created an opportunity that we've kind of seized on. It's also created a lot of problems in terms of opening
Starting point is 00:43:01 a business and cash flow and all those fun things that happen with COVID to everyone, unfortunately. So this is a positive. Just think when you, you know, a year down the road, like you're going to have so much experience on multiple different things. You know, there's lots of problems. If you started this a year ago or whatever and things were rolling, maybe you don't get as much traction for all I know. I would probably agree with that. And I think anytime you've done this as well,
Starting point is 00:43:31 starting a business, you learn a lot about yourself and your vision and what your passion is. And as I've said to you before, many times, my passion is coaching. My passion is sports. And this is a chance to give back in the, a sport that I am coaching and currently involved in. I think that that's what makes me so happy is to see these kids in there playing, right?
Starting point is 00:43:51 The adults and stuff, great. But to see kids enjoying the facility and being able to play and work on their game, it makes you happy. And it makes all that work worth it. But you definitely learn a lot about yourself and what's in it. And I think our company stayed very focused in what the goal was. And now there's a potential of us partnering with other cities to do the same type of project. because we did break water in Saskatchewans,
Starting point is 00:44:16 so no one's really done this in those hoops, as you saw, their MBA-style hoops, college-style hoops, so they're portable. Most places move them on forklifts. We're moving them by hand, so we're working through the process. We have hand-pump hydraulics.
Starting point is 00:44:30 We're trying to get some people in town to make us electrical hydraulics, because there's all those little things that when you face those problems, you're like, oh, oh, this is a big issue we're going to have for a while, which is a good thing because we're changing our facility from volleyball to basketball so often. But I'll tell you what, my right arm
Starting point is 00:44:46 from pumping that hydraulic on those hoops and getting the wheels up, I'm looking forward to someone getting us electric hydrolics in there so I can just push a button, man. But it's, yeah, it's very humbling to do this kind of project. It's been cool to watch from afar, right?
Starting point is 00:45:06 Like, I don't know. I've never really known anyone to take on something I shouldn't say that. I've seen lots of companies start. I know lots of guys who've started companies. But in the sporting world, this just doesn't come along that often where you're, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:23 we all know I'm a hockey guy. It'd be like essentially me building a rink. I mean, renting a building or buying a building and converting it into a rink. I mean, that's a little harder said than done. But that's the general idea. Like, it's super cool to watch. I mean,
Starting point is 00:45:39 was this always the plan like did you or did this just did you just kind of see the writing on the wall with all the gyms closing down and go maybe there's a play here yeah it wasn't always a plan and our company started as coaching development so it wasn't like hey in five years or in this is we just had our one year anniversary here last week of our company so this is all happened in our first year we've done all these clinics and we opened a second big of the second business per se that wasn't our vision but it just kind of trended that way and we had talked about a building and it'd be great it works out well me being here coaching at the college and being a local here i think i think that helps a lot with the building because we're able to run some programming on
Starting point is 00:46:26 the weekends in early mornings and it still allows me to do my full-time job and it allows us to kind of venture out into other things so if you told me a year ago that i was going to open a facility in town that was going to be basketball, volleyball specific. I would have said you were high. But here we are. I'm seven days in. It feels like it's been a year and a half. Lots of people using it then?
Starting point is 00:46:50 You rattled off like five or six different years. Are you full? You got open space. Yeah. No, we are definitely full. So we had to make sure we're staying under our numbers. So making sure we're staying under 30. So I didn't anticipate even like our drop in times,
Starting point is 00:47:05 booking drop in times. We're having like a wait list of 20 people on our drop. up in times right now. We're booked with some volleyball camps, some basketball camps, ladies league basketball, men's league basketball, ladies league volleyball. That's kick ass.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Yeah, so tons of people are using it and they're being really respectful to have a facility and they're following all the protocols, which is the number one thing. They're doing their daily check-ins and now it's like automatic. So the response has been great. People are coming in. They like it.
Starting point is 00:47:33 They're commenting on it. Now, they could be being nice to me because I'm there and I'm probably cranky at the door. but no we're very excited to have all these people and like I said when you walk up to that building and see that building you're like we're going to go and where and then you open the door and you're like oh yeah this will do yeah and tonight there was a there's a kid that hadn't been in there and I just happened to be there when he walked in and I heard him talk he's like oh man because you look it's an old tin building just like any other industrial and to walk in there with that kind of art and the floor and everything in there and Now, of course, we got music playing and stuff. So it's got a cool vibe. We're very excited about it. We're very proud, but more so we're proud that we get to give back to the community that, as I've told you before, I felt like I got to take so much locally from sports and how to give some back to kids is pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:48:24 It's cool. It's cool to have in the border city too. Yeah. Like, it's a cool little feature that we got here. I'm wondering, you know, I've told you this before. You used to play in the Monday night pick up basketball league over at the Holy Rosary ball court, a bunch of white guys who suck at basketball and it was never their first sport minus like one guy. I'm sure if you filmed it, it would probably bring most people to laughter, maybe even tears,
Starting point is 00:48:54 maybe even rolling fits, how bad the basketball is. I'm wondering if there's space for that group of Yahoo's at this new facility. It probably is you're going to have to book in events. But you know what? I'm getting a lot of hockey teams wanting to come in and... Train? Or just use it for... Just use it for like an off-court, off-ice training, right,
Starting point is 00:49:11 to come in and play five-on-five and let them muck around. Because it is good training. And honestly, you guys coming into the gym? Who cares? Are you having fun? That's all that matters. I never judge anyone playing basketball, just like I never judge anyone playing hockey or ball.
Starting point is 00:49:25 If you're having fun and you're enjoying it, go hard. Go as hard as you need to go. Like, I'm sure you guys that don't play basketball at a time. When you guys play, you have a hell of a time. As long as I'm not playing Chris King, yeah. You can't be too skilled and you can't be, we play prison rules is the way I put it, right? There's no fouls.
Starting point is 00:49:45 There's no fowls. There's going to be a little cluttering and grabbing going on. I remember my wife's brother who was a basketball player. He's, I don't know, how tall is mad. Probably like 6'1. Good basketball player. He came and played with us one time. And when he got home, Mel went to him.
Starting point is 00:50:01 I said, well, how was it? he goes, well, I wasn't very good basketball, but they allowed like pretty much anything goes, which made it really interesting, so it was a lot of fun. That's awesome. That's so good. Yeah, well, you get a short stocky guy who plays hockey for a living. We're not too worried about double, well, not the double dribble part,
Starting point is 00:50:23 but the contact part. I don't even get basketball contact makes sense. It depends where you're playing. We've talked about it before the flopping and the NBA is something else. But if you're short, you get in under the ribs, You get some cheap shots under the ribs. You probably get to hack a few times where no one's calling a foul anyways, right?
Starting point is 00:50:38 I always tell my kids when you're, this was me, the shortest player on the floor all the time, you get to foul 10 times more than anyone else because the refs aren't going to call it because that's 6-8 guy, you slap them on the hand. You should be able to finish, right? So when you're short, you got to be cheap.
Starting point is 00:50:52 That's the way it goes. Before we move off the hoop factory, how do people, if they want to get, they want to see schedules, they want to book in, any of that, how do they get a Woldia? Where do they go? Yeah, so they go on our website, GTShoopfactory.com.
Starting point is 00:51:06 You can see all of our schedules, all of our camps are on there. You can also go on our Instagram, GTShoopfactory. Everything's on there, your daily check-ins. We're pretty active on our social, Facebook as well. You can find us. But if you go on our website, you can see the calendar for the rest of the year. That's the problem right now with booking time is there's not that much time available with all the bookings right now and the little buffer we have to have to sanitize.
Starting point is 00:51:33 change everything over but yeah you can find all the information you need and if not you can email us gtis who factory at gmail.com or call 708704478. There you go okay there's your plug that's a great plug moving on now now you mentioned the NBA and I've been I've been waiting you haven't listened to the latest brothers round table where we we absolutely uh let's be very clear here the newmans are not basketball players right um we act like we can play some ball because I love being a Pemto, but realistically, we were never basketball players. Right. So when we watched LeBron, Carter round his trophies and talk about respect,
Starting point is 00:52:13 all I could think of after we berated basketball players on their last roundtable, and I'm sure there was a couple guys be like, these guys are a bunch of Yahoo's. All I can think of was, well, I got Kinger coming on. I can't wait to pick his brain on LeBron James. The Lakers win. Maybe I'll get some respect now. What's your thoughts? Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Not a LeBron fan at all. He's the biggest, strongest athlete in the league, right? Or one of. No, no, no. I was going to say, like, that might go further than basketball. That guy's a giant. Yeah, if we're going to say, like, the top athletes in the world, that guy could play NFL for sure.
Starting point is 00:52:50 100%. The fact that he whines and is a baby all the time is just so annoying. And it makes basketball look bad. And the problem is now some of the other superstars complain all the time. The thing with no fans is you heard them chirping the refs and call them for fouls all the time, which I thought was hilarious because you know that stuff happens. LeBron winning was tough. I'm a Lakers fan.
Starting point is 00:53:13 I couldn't cheer for the Lakers with LeBron there because most people that cheer for LeBron are a LeBron fan. And what I mean by that is these kids growing up now, they cheer for an athlete, not a team. I'm a Tom Brady fan. Don't get me going. Well, we can get into that after. Yeah, I struggle with the LeBron thing. Now, hey, going back to your brothers, I play hockey with them at lunch, and they cry quite a lot if they get tripped or slashed.
Starting point is 00:53:41 So I don't know. Paul calling the kettle black, and one of them's worse than the others, and he knows who it is. Oh, who is that? Oh, now you get, oh, he'll know. Next time he's there, he'll know. I'm going to bring that up on the next round table. You're not going to give me a name?
Starting point is 00:53:56 Oh, no. You tell me on your next round table, who complains the most at hockey? Okay. Interesting. The boys will probably hear this, and if they don't, I'll remember this for the next roundtable.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Who complains the most out of the four brothers on the ice? Yeah, because I played against all of them, or with all of them. That's going to be good. Anyways, regardless, I don't love, LeBron's a great advocate for a lot of things,
Starting point is 00:54:23 and I think he's done a lot for, like, social media and social justice, but the NBA game, I can't stand that flopping. I like it when guys, you said you watched the Jordan Dock, right? When guys are going through each other and you have to earn it and stuff. I just, I don't even like the fact that he jumped teams and then brought arguably a top five player to leave his team just basically straight up quit and demand a trade to come play with the Bron.
Starting point is 00:54:49 I just, I don't appreciate that. I appreciate drafting players and bringing them in. I appreciated Golden State before Kevin Durant, that championship, bringing all the guys, right? the Kevin Drant thing kind of soured it a little for me. 100% it soured it. Yeah, but the thing is, you were good, you won a championship before, and then you got Kevin Drant, and he's like, wait, I'm going to go join the best team.
Starting point is 00:55:12 That's the softest thing you could possibly do. Go win a championship on your own or build something. I think that that's been lost a lot in sports is that culture piece to the organization. Don't you think it is, I'm being hard on the NBA, but the NBA just feels like it's so prevalent. Like it's just, it's there, and it's so, like, obvious that, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:38 LeBron, you talk about guys cheering for a player and not a team. I was a LeBron guy when he went back to Cleveland. So when he left, fair. And I don't think too many people were happy about it. Actually, I thought it was a huge dick move because I'm like, if you're going to leave your hometown team, don't make a documentary about it, don't make a decision about it. That was brutal.
Starting point is 00:55:58 You're dragging everybody through the muck. But when he came back, I cheered really hard for him to win. I remember being a BPs and was out on a date night, and I'm sure Mel hated me that night because I was like watching it. And I, by no stretch of the imagination, watch a ton of basketball games, but I was like glued to the TV for that one because it was cool. And he brings a championship back to Cleveland of all places. And then when he goes to Lakers and everything going on there,
Starting point is 00:56:21 I just, yeah, soured me on him. But I feel like that's the NBA thing to do. Try and build these conglomerate teams of – Yeah, I'm super starts. I think it comes from their AAU, right? So now kids playing growing up, you're not getting the best players in the state. You're getting the best players from all over on these five or six AAU team. Same with the prep team.
Starting point is 00:56:43 So they're used to just going wherever the best players are to play together. So when they get to the NBA, and I think the NBA is different than a lot of sports in the sense that I think they don't have helmets on, right? It's not like football that they're not covered up. They're visible. They're visible all the time. You also know when you see an NBA player because they're 6-8 to 6-9. You can see them in a club. You can see them anywhere.
Starting point is 00:57:04 So I think they're very aware socially. They want to be on the best team. They want to be in the end. And let's be honest, you look at like an average NBA player making $13, $14 million. I think there's some entitlement that comes with that because they are viewed. They are paid. I think that they feel like they can have a little bit less connection. Now, that's not everyone.
Starting point is 00:57:29 I just, I don't love some of the things about NBA. If you're asking me about Fibah Europe, NCAA, love it. Love, love the game, love the way it's played, but some of the NBA, I just cringe at. So that's coming from a basketball guy, and I know that sounds awful, but that's the reality of it. NBA playoffs, I watched early. I watched early on, I watched a lot of stuff early on, and then as it became evident, the Lakers were going to win, I watched less and less because I couldn't stomach to watch LeBron play. that bad.
Starting point is 00:58:00 What did you think of the bubble? I thought no fan, how they did it, how the NBA did it. I thought they did a great job. I thought they did a good job with the testing. I thought when they brought in the families, that was good. I was really impressed the way they did it. And then the WNBA followed. Hockey obviously followed, right?
Starting point is 00:58:17 I was a little shocked that baseball didn't go to it, but I'm kind of not shocked the way that baseballs ran a little bit. In NFL, they do whatever they want anyways. so but I was impressed that NBA was able to get it done and make it safe for everyone it sounded like there was glitches but they worked through it and I think they made the best of a bad situation now when the NBA comes back it's just like when hockey comes back can you have a league for a whole year without fans
Starting point is 00:58:46 well I've heard the numbers and I don't know if this is right so maybe I shouldn't be saying that I'll fill everyone's head with nonsense but I heard um Brian Burke saying it the other day that 50% of what NHL teams make comes off the gate. I would bet it's high. And I think the number is much lower for NBA because of their contracts with the TV and stuff.
Starting point is 00:59:10 But that wouldn't surprise me. So how do you knock off 50% right off the get-go? Is everyone going to take a 50% pay cut? No. So now you're looking at, and once again, by the time this comes out, things could change, right? But now, okay, we're going to start January 1st. No, we're going to wait January 15th so we can get 50% capacity in there.
Starting point is 00:59:32 So now let's say the Oilers game, they're seating 50% capacity. Are you charging double now to make up that money? $20 beers? Yeah, instead of $14, $50 or whatever it is. But yeah, no, it's very interesting what they're doing. And I think NBA could get away with it for a while. I also think the only other sport that could get away with no fans is NFL. I just think NFL makes so much money.
Starting point is 00:59:56 It doesn't matter. NFL owns a day of the year. It is absolutely, I don't know, it's cool. I mean, the NFL is, I mean, it's Sundays, right? Like, I mean, it's just, and I mean, even the Monday nighter, the third, like, everything they do. They own everything. They own, like, it's so, but they have what is so cool about the NFL and no other sport can do this. At least, I mean, you can give me the argument that another sport can.
Starting point is 01:00:28 But they play so few games, that's unreal, right? Like, as an athlete, do you love playing 60 games? 80 games? No, baseball 162? No chance do they love that? Play 16 games. Every game means something. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:46 And so when you tune into the NFL, I mean, you turn into, I don't know, the Miami Dolphins versus pick a team and you're like yeah this game means a hill of beans sure but for most Sundays there's like three four games that are like and you better tune into that yeah big big time games big time yes and it's got meaning to playoffs it's got implications for draft picks and whatever else so you take you take what the last 10 games maybe last five games of the NHL is, and then the first round of playoffs. You take that type of atmosphere
Starting point is 01:01:25 and string it out over a season and that's what the NFL's got. I mean, baseball, you know, you can use the analogy on any sport and put it into what the NFL. They got playoffs all year long. That's what it is. I think that's why the NFL fans,
Starting point is 01:01:39 they will never go away from it, right? Like, I'm sure there's a lot of NHL fans at times have been turned off by things that the NHL's done or whatever, and they probably still came back. NFL fans are not going anywhere. It doesn't matter. You're going to watch your six or seven home games and you're going to pay. I got the, my cousin has tickets to Seattle. So they have season tickets. They live in Victoria. They fly down for the game. So we got to go. My dad and my brother
Starting point is 01:02:06 and a friend, we went once to that game. 10 a.m. The tailgate, it's full go. That was like a 2 p.m. kick. It was full go the whole morning. I couldn't believe that people are still standing. But it's, like a cultural thing and the more people I talk to I realize like this is this is one of the seven games that we get and I'm taking tomorrow off work I've already booked it off a year in advance and and we're going and we're going hard and it in the atmosphere is unbelievable it's a full day affair well I mean I've been to NFL games now and like green green bay was something else you can't You know, maybe if you watch the TV, you can pick it out. But I remember watching Green Bay games and just green and gold, green and gold and whatever.
Starting point is 01:02:54 But when you show up, the stadium is in the middle of residential. Right? Yeah. So you're tailgating in someone's backyard. You're actually pulling into their backyard and setting everything out. Then everything is Camel and Hunter Orange. I was dressed from head to toe and Hunter and Orange. I thought it was a joke.
Starting point is 01:03:13 And then I got there and went, oh, I'm going to fit right in. Right? Yeah. And it's cold, but they love that. And it's windy and snowy and whatever. They love that. And it is just like, it's go time, like you say. And then, I mean, my wife's from Minnesota, so I've been to the new stadium.
Starting point is 01:03:29 The atmosphere in there is like, then you go to an oiler game and no offense to the oil. But you go to an oiler game and it's just a regular season game. They're playing Chicago and they're down 3-1 and it is silent. You're like, man, how is there even a comparison? No. I don't think there's anything close to it. And being on a lot of oiler games, especially in the New York, building you always feel that I haven't been to a playoff game obviously but in in that
Starting point is 01:03:51 new building you're like oh my gosh like this is gorgeous but it's so hollow whereas when you go to NFL everything's on top of you and the other cool thing with NFL is you think about that one game how many jobs it provides in the community just that little chunk of the year you know September to December all the pubs you probably paid someone 20 bucks to park in their yard or something oh guaranteed and and so did a bunch of other dues 100% yeah and then then you were paying for something hot dogs. Like you just think the whole way and then you think after all the pubs when you go back into town. Like it is a whole lifestyle thing.
Starting point is 01:04:28 You know, God, I don't know why I talked about the NFL all night long because that's what they do. But even, right, it's first down, second down, third down. And then the big horn goes off because you got to shut them down. You got to shut them down on third down, right? And the place is going nuts when, I mean, God, that experience. if you could bottle it up or put it to any other sport. That's what they're all trying to recapture. That's why nobody goes.
Starting point is 01:04:53 And on top of that, I feel like COVID screws up the NHL. So everybody around our area, let's talk Lloyd, Saskatchew and Alberta. The NHL playing through the summer months. Man, I know so many. Like, I know there's people out there. I watch it every game. Yeah, that's great for you. Most people were at the lake.
Starting point is 01:05:12 We're outside and didn't do two craps once Eminton was out, once the Canadian teams are out, they had other things going on. The NFL hasn't skipped a beat, is right in their wheelhouse of this is when we're playing, and we're going to play, and we're going to carry on, and that's what they were doing. And so it's like you haven't missed anything. And so all the NFL people, right into it. Yeah, they're going to go no matter what. Did you think when you were watching the hockey games, I felt that basketball, not bad without fans,
Starting point is 01:05:38 because the camera's been close enough. Football, not bad. They can pipe in the noise. But hockey, when I watched it, it just felt. blah. Yeah, it just was like, because the camera's out so far, and it doesn't matter what you do. You're like, oh, my God. I'm sure the players felt intensity, but it just doesn't look good on camera with no fans.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Like, you just know that that's a, I think of playing in any rink you played and even in senior hockey and no one in the building. It's like my wreck game at lunch. There's no one there. Someone scores a goal, and you're like, good job. Good job, man. Good job. Nice pass. Like, it just, duh, dead.
Starting point is 01:06:16 So I can't imagine that for them. But NFL can do it. NFL can do it. You know, the other one I thought, I thought they did a good job. Like I think it looked really good, but it is baseball. When you're in the World Series and the building is going nuts and you can just feel like, holy crap, one pitch and they're done or one. And, you know, the amount of pressure on those players. When you get however many thousands of fans are jammed into those buildings and like the,
Starting point is 01:06:46 But, you know, it's like, I thought baseball missed out on having no fans, too. Or having, I mean, at the end, they had a few fans in there. 9,000 or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They did figure out the piping of the sound a little bit as that went on. Because when I watched the Braves fan, so I had to watch that crushing. Oh, crushing loss. But it did feel, I was arguing with a buddy, and he's like, oh, there's got to be 20,000 people there.
Starting point is 01:07:08 And I looked at the attendance, and it was nine. But with the piping of the sound, it actually sounded like a home game or an away game. So, yeah, I just sucker for punishment on baseball watching that. But it's, I can't wait to see fans and to feel those atmospheres. When it's back. Yeah, and just think about, you talked about hockey. Hockey regular season isn't played at the intensity of playoffs. It can't be.
Starting point is 01:07:30 You can't play a whole 82 games like that. You can't play 60 games at high intensity. Well, even at the end of playoffs, like all the broken bones and how guys are playing through and how many guys you got to pull up just through the NHL playoffs. but how is intensity going to be in a no-fan season in game 40? Holy. Guys are going to be faking injuries all over. I bet you Connor McDavid gets like 160 points.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Just kills it. Because it's rec hockey. Yeah. You hear the OHL? I saw that. No body contact? So you're an OHL player. You're asking to be traded, right?
Starting point is 01:08:08 I don't, I honestly, I don't know. I've said it on a previous podcast. I'm like, I feel like the NHL is slowly moving towards no body contact anyways. This is just going to speed it up. The game shifted for sure, but it's like now even the minor hockey rate, they're shifting that, the hitting for COVID and stuff. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:27 I just don't know. So those OHL, OHL dub the Q, that's the mini NHL, right? You're trained exactly for the NHL every step of the way. So how are you preparing those guys for the NHL? If for a whole calendar year, they don't have any. contact you're just you're you're you're you're costing those guys money and draft spots and contracts whether it's in NHL or Europe like and yet if they get to play the WHL right now isn't going to start until what is it January 1 is it December it's one of those two I I'm spacing on
Starting point is 01:09:02 the date but out of province stuff yeah right like they're they got their got dub guys are going back to junior eight teams right now for between the AJ and the SJ, any team can have up to four dub guys on their teams for the next six weeks or whatever it is. It creates a really good Junior A league when you're playing. When you can't have any fans to go watch it. Can you imagine go and watch the Bobcats?
Starting point is 01:09:29 And there's, you know, you've got all these local kids that are in the dub and they all come back and play for their hometown team. You would have a sellout every night. And all they can have is whatever the number is, 150 fans. Yeah. Like it's got to be hard.
Starting point is 01:09:40 And you got to watch online. I know. and that's the best quality you could ever get getting those guys back in the building and the excitement that you would have. Yeah, it's brutal. But once again, Dub O. I thought the O would be okay other than the outbreaks, but the dub, you got the states and you got so many provinces. That's why the AJ and the SJ can go is because you're just staying within the province. This is why Lakeland struggles with ACAC right now because we are under SAS Health.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Everyone else is under Alberta Health. So that puts us in a weird spot being on a border city. The one time that being on the border is not great. A benefit. Yeah. I remember growing up playing for Team Sask and Team Alberta because you could go either way within 20 kilometers. That's a benefit.
Starting point is 01:10:24 This not helping. Not helping. But yeah, all the sports are suffering. So those kids, pro sports, you talk about it like all the way down. And I talked about this, our last talk that we had. Think about all these hockey players that don't get to play. they were supposed to get drafted, or I'm now recruiting grade 12 basketball players that haven't, they didn't finish grade 11 and they are not going to play in grade 12.
Starting point is 01:10:49 And I'm expecting that kid to come in and play college off of what I saw in grade 10. There's no other games. There's nothing I could see. Some of these kids haven't even been in a gym to work out. So I am praying that this kid is still okay and they're going to come in to college level of not touching the ball in 18 months. How is that going to work out? I can tell you how it's going to work out.
Starting point is 01:11:11 out well. It's not going to work out well for these kids unless they're getting in the gym. So everyone's getting knocked up with that. Can you imagine if you could rewind the clock when LeBron James is in grade 11 if he didn't get to play his high school years, how that would affect it things? You wonder who might have went to college? You wonder who will be the winners and losers out of what's going on? Because some kid's going to maybe he wouldn't have caught your eye. Maybe now because, or he caught your eye in grade 10, but as he went along, he didn't. or whatever have you.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Now he's going to get a spot or she's going to do a spot not a heat. And maybe they'll be a great surprise to you. Could be. You know who's going to win out of COVID though for athletes? Is? Is the ones that have the genetic gift, right? I think the hard workers, the ones that work all the time on their skill and grind it out
Starting point is 01:12:02 and do little things right. If you can't play or practice, what's a coach going to see if he sees just a small sample size? the talent, the jumping, the running, the stuff that catches your eyes. When I go watch a basketball tournament, there might be a kid that I'm like, oh, that kid works really hard or she does this really well. And the more you watch her, the more you fall in love with their game. And you're like, this is going to make us good.
Starting point is 01:12:27 But the one that catches your eye is the one that jumps over everyone or runs faster or does something. Yeah, they have the genetics. And that might not be the best player in the long run, but that's the player that everyone gravitates to. So in terms of hockey, you see that skill and you're like, that's the guy I need. But the guy that you need to center your second line that's going to take all your face offs and kill penalties for you doesn't get seen as much. That's what I worry about. So I think you're going to see a lot of mistakes being made on the recruiting thing. I can't talk for hockey.
Starting point is 01:12:57 I can just talk for my sport. But I know exactly what's going to catch our eye if we get to see anything. And it will be those kids that are genetically gifted, I would say. Last dance, before we get to the final five, I've got to ask you about the last dance because you were hot and heavy for the last dance. And I believe on the COVID roundtable, it was either just about to come out or the first couple episodes that just come out. Now, I know it's probably the best thing that happened in COVID.
Starting point is 01:13:29 If people can believe it, my wife and I literally sat and watched it together, right? It was like, I don't know, pick your TV show you want. You want Game of Thrones? which was fantastic, or maybe you're into Gray's Anatomy or The Bachelor, Bachelorette, something like that. I don't know, just spitting out names. It was a show that we marked on the, it's Sunday night,
Starting point is 01:13:52 we're sitting down, we're watching. Yeah. It was unbelievable. So that was the era that I started to shift a little bit, being a hockey player shifting into basketball because I got to see Jordan on WGN in the 90s, which was unbelievable. So anyone that got to see Jordan,
Starting point is 01:14:12 they are, this is why I struggle with the LeBron Jordan thing. To me, it's not close. To win a game, a single game, a championship, it's Jordan. It's not LeBron. I would always put my money on him. I will so that no one's going to tell me different. LeBron's career over the lifespan might be better,
Starting point is 01:14:28 but Jordan's a killer. And you see that in the video, Jordan's an absolute killer, which, by the way, I got to talk to Clark about getting Jordan to sponsor so he can have a job man. on hoop factory. That's got to be done in the... When you do that,
Starting point is 01:14:41 let's get them on the podcast too and we'll blow up everything. Good. Let's just hammer that from all angles there because a jump man under the hoop factory in Canada, that would be deluxe. But going back to that,
Starting point is 01:14:53 watching that whole process, I think it made me like Jordan even more. So I've watched it now three times because now... You've watched the entire thing three times? Yeah, so I work out with the girls and you have to supervise the weight sessions now. So I've got to be in the weight room
Starting point is 01:15:07 when the girls work. out in the mornings, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. So when I go on the treadmill, episode one, I started it over again and now I've watched it through again. I just, the way that he, his competitiveness comes out and the way that his teammates respect him, even though they know that sometimes he crossed the line, that ultimately it was about making him better, making the team better. I think that was the coolest thing. And they see my athletes talk about it coming back and talking about watching it. All my kids watch it.
Starting point is 01:15:39 And my girls don't watch basketball. They don't. But they all watch that. They all texted after every episode, like the things that they liked. So we even had a chat about like, what did we take from the last dance? Because I didn't need to watch it as a team
Starting point is 01:15:52 because they already watched it. As a hockey guy, what was your biggest takeaway watching that? I'm flipping it back on you here just quickly, but what was your biggest takeaway? Well, you understand why Jordan transcended basketball. Like, he is one of how many athletes that are just larger than their sport. Tiger Woods was one of them.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Yeah. Tiger Woods now has a little bit of a smear all over them. We all know why, right? Yeah. Back then, Wayne Grexky was certainly one of them, right? But Wayne Grexky is kind of like the ridiculously nice guy. Right. They never let you into what he...
Starting point is 01:16:32 You've never heard a bad story about him. Right. where seeing Michael Jordan like that, you're like, man, he does not have an off switch. Like it is, that scrimmage game where they're playing the Dream Team, I think? Yeah. That's unbelievable. Yeah. Like that is unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:16:52 Now, me being a guy that loves sitting across and picking guys' brains, a, the Dennis Rodman leaving thing is. Unbelievable. The way Phil Jackson handled that is unbelievable. And if there's one guy, you know, obviously Jordan, if I could get anyone off of that documentary, I'd take Jordan in a heartbeat to sit across from. But my number 1A or 1B or whatever we want to call it is Phil Jackson.
Starting point is 01:17:24 I got to read his book. I got it on my list. And I never had Phil Jackson on the list of like, man, I'd really like to get him. He was not on it. But after that documentary, damn sure. on it now like you'll like his book you'll like it his his his mentality is I always heard he was the got to understand I'm a you know I didn't fall basketball that much like
Starting point is 01:17:47 yeah you follow the great ones and and I remember everybody being Chicago Bulls insanity back in the 90s but I guess I just didn't really and Phil Jackson greatest coach ash or whatever but hearing him talk and hearing he's mesmerizing it's interesting The other thing I also take from the entire documentary is, no matter how good something is, somebody is always going to be there to be like, yeah, we got to change things up, we got to do, right? Like, how can ownership and the GM be like,
Starting point is 01:18:19 you guys are getting too old, you can't do this? Like, it's like, man, just ride that until it falters. Just go, go, like, go until they can't go anymore. Let Jordan play out his career there and be done. It's kind of like trading Wayne Groskey. but staying on the basketball those are non-bastable guys making those decisions so when I when I it's funny you brought up those points because Phil Jackson to me Steve Kerr's are really getting there but Phil Jackson's so unique the way that he handles situations I thought uh Steve Kerr would be number three
Starting point is 01:18:49 on my list of guys I'd like that yeah and Kerr's a unbelievable speaker so I bought Jackson's new book three ring circus so it talks about the time with the lakers with Kobe and shack and all the stuff that was actually happening and how he handled it and it was absolute chaos. But he kind of had a way of handling everyone separately at the same time. So when you hear Rodman talking about stuff, which I thought that episode was so unique because he's talking about this is the craziest guy in the NBA
Starting point is 01:19:16 who wears dresses and dives his hair, but he goes into the gym for hours and has his friend shoot hoops so we can figure out which way the ball's going to bounce. And he was so similar, my takeaway was he was so similar to Jordan and he had just one unique focus. Jordan's was winning, and Rodman's was, I'm going to help us win, but I'm just going to rebound the play D.
Starting point is 01:19:37 Like, this is my thing. I can just do that. And I thought that was pretty cool to see how everyone kind of, a little bit of absorbed Michael's personality. And then the time that Michael got emotional, I really enjoyed that part where you can tell there's some regret in the way that he treated his teammates, and they said that there was two times he stopped taping.
Starting point is 01:20:00 One was when he talked about his teammates, he said, I never made them do anything that I didn't do myself. And the other time was when he was talking about his dad. And I thought that was pretty unique that when he's reflecting upon how he treated his teammates, you can tell it ate him up, but it was just about winning. And he would do it the same because he knew that got them to the end goal. I thought that was pretty cool when he said pause there. I thought they filmed it well, it was directed well. It was really impactful to me.
Starting point is 01:20:30 And it was perfect timing that it came out in COVID. Because it had all the eyes of the world, right? That was good. That was good television. That was, I heard that Golden State had been offered to have cameras go with them, and they declined that. Yes, I think they did. They did a mini, I think there's one coming out on Kobe's last year, but it's not the same. I think it was because they knew it was his retirement, but Golden State did decline that on
Starting point is 01:21:00 their last run. Right? Like, I mean, don't get me wrong. Having cameras in everywhere would be uncomfortable, I'm sure. But the footage it creates for down the road is unbelievable. I got to say, seeing them drink beer in the training room after and have cigars on the road. I think that's pretty cool because I don't even know if they're allowed to do that anymore, to be honest, but just to like see that kind of thing, that's pretty awesome.
Starting point is 01:21:25 Well, let's go into the Crude Master Final Five. I know you're probably up until two in the morning doing work on the old hoop factory, so I don't want to keep you here all night as you rub your eyes. Hey, no one's bothering me too much yet. No text from the wife. We're okay. Well, shout out to Heath and Trace McDonald, supporters of the podcast since the very beginning.
Starting point is 01:21:46 I've got five for you today, all right? If you were to get a headline, a late show, whose late show would you want to go on? Well, I think, so I'm a big fan of Jimmy Fallon. I find him hilarious. But I started watching David Letterman's news. I know. So I watched the Chappelle episode first, and I was just blown away.
Starting point is 01:22:14 So it would be David Letterman. I think seeing him in like those hour sit downs, he's so unique the way that he can connect to people. And, yeah, so Letterman for sure. God, I'd like to interview Letterman. And he was at the peak when we were growing up. I know. That was the show. That was the show.
Starting point is 01:22:30 Yeah. And to see him come back when he first came back and I saw that. I'm like, ah, yeah, whatever. And then I watched the episode and I'm like, oh, my God. Like, yeah. He's good. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:43 Yeah. This air is on Wednesday. Okay. The election is on Tuesday. Yeah. I don't want your choice. I want who you think is going to win, Trump or Biden. Or Kanye West.
Starting point is 01:22:58 Might as well be Kanye West the way the U.S. is headed. I don't know. It seems like it's going to be a mess. I'm going to say Biden, just because I think the recent events, and I think some of the major promises that didn't get followed through on
Starting point is 01:23:14 might hurt him. It might not in the long run. I think this is going to be one of those wild things that, like, whatever happens, whoever wins, there's going to be ballots missing or votes missing. or some kind of collusion. I don't think this is going to be pretty. And I think the thing that we can all agree on
Starting point is 01:23:31 that we've seen in the U.S. is the deterioration of politics and what democracy stands for, in my opinion. I think their system's broken. But I would lean toward Biden, just would be my guess. But also, Hillary was supposed to win last time, and she didn't.
Starting point is 01:23:48 She got more votes, but didn't win. And by the time this is tuned in Wednesday, we'll know. And both those guys could, easily be done by Wednesday because they are getting up there in age. My goodness, two of the oldest. Like you look at Obama, Obama's still younger than those guys. So we might have someone totally different in there. Who knows? If they were to recreate one basketball movie and they brought Chris King in to headline said movie, I, I rattled off. I'll rattle off some names.
Starting point is 01:24:25 for you just so you can have a few. I got it. Coach Carter, Teen Wolf, Hoosiers, Space Jam, white men can't jump, he got game.
Starting point is 01:24:35 That's, in my mind. Those are all good ones. Did I miss one? Above the rim. Do you say above the rim? That's a good one. No,
Starting point is 01:24:42 I haven't said it. Blue Chips is good with Shaq and Penny Hardaway. It's like recruiting violations. It's pretty good. Those are all good. I'm surprised you came up with that list. That's a good list.
Starting point is 01:24:53 I mean, you did your homework. Yeah. Well, and those are some good movie. I mean, Coach Carter. Actually, the one I was going to put in there, but I haven't seen it yet, is the new Ben Affleck one. I haven't seen it yet. It looks good.
Starting point is 01:25:05 It does look good. I heard mixed reviews from basketball people, though. Okay. Well, I mean, yeah. I mean, how can you? Denzel is my man. Denzel is rate high on the list. Me too.
Starting point is 01:25:17 If I ever get a chance, I mean, I'm going to be pumped. But, like, he got game was awesome. Yeah. White Man Can't Jump Woody Harold. So for me, that's my favorite of all time. White Man Can't Jump? Yeah, I just love the dynamic between him and Wesley Snipes and the back and forth and the talking smack and the taking money from people. So my high school graduation present from my basketball coach, Mike Curtis, who was helping at the facility, he got me the DVD of White Man Can't Jump.
Starting point is 01:25:46 And I still have it to this day. But yeah, just the back and forth in that is unbelievable. But blue chips would be right. behind for me because it's like a coach grasping his straws and breaks all the rules he buys a guy a tractor he gets another guy's mama house and a job and just to win so um yeah i would love to be Woody harrelson because i think doing a movie with Leslie Snipes would be best the best yeah well actually but it wouldn't be Wesley Snipes because it'd be a remake so who would who'd be your co-star who would you banter with who would be able to give it back it has to be someone
Starting point is 01:26:25 athletic enough because right now I'm thinking as comedians and that wouldn't work I was thinking Chris Tucker but that's what that's what I was thinking first one in my head because it would be so funny
Starting point is 01:26:39 but then I'm like can he play ball okay let me come back to that at the end and see if I can get someone someone that's pretty athletic because you just I think about a lot of sports movies and Wesley Snipes is pretty good
Starting point is 01:26:51 in a lot of those right major league like unbelievable I don't even know he can play baseball but he talked smack and stole bases right so he was a big fan of wesley i got a hundred of these one for every bag i'm going to steal yeah uh he was in the fan too wasn't he yeah yeah yeah that was a great one yep he was in the fan he had a string where he was in he was like really really really good yeah asked this one i think i asked this one uh maybe the 10 or Novelin, I can't remember now.
Starting point is 01:27:26 If you got to be in a celebrity WWE match and you could pick one wrestler to come be your tag team partner, who would you take? It could be current and past. I mean, W.W.E. brings back people all the time. Right. I think I would have to take the rock just for like what he's accomplished.
Starting point is 01:27:48 My favorite wrestler was the ultimate warrior growing up. He was my favorite wrestler by a mile. But I think I'd have to take the rock. rock just because of all the little extras and known what he became. But the Ultimate Warrior was out of control. Would you put on the same? Oh, same offer. Yeah, for sure. Think of this body right now with those on, not seeing the sun for months. Yeah, that would be me for sure. Ultimate Warrior was pretty good, but the Rock was pretty, he was pretty unreal, that little stint he was on there before he took off with the acting and everything like that. The Rock is also on my list. Okay,
Starting point is 01:28:24 I asked you last time if you were a fan, a spectator, what final game of what major sport would you go to? So now we asked this on the Brothers Roundtable, and now I'm curious your thought. If you were
Starting point is 01:28:42 an athlete, a player in a game and you could hit the buzzer beater, hit a walk-off, score an O.T. Or catcher run-in the winning TD, no time left. of the championship games. We're talking game seven MLB, the World Series,
Starting point is 01:28:58 game seven of Stanley Cup finals, game seven in the NBA finals, or the Super Bowl. Which one would you want? Yeah. Is it a walkoff a home run? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, walk off home run.
Starting point is 01:29:12 Walk off dinger? Yeah. You're not sticking, you're not, you're not quiet. Hit, no, Jordan last shot would be like unbelievable. Yeah. A walk off dinger hitting that where you're rounding second and seeing your team coming out. And then getting a home and doing the helmet talk.
Starting point is 01:29:28 Yeah. Walk off dinger. You underestimate the baseball side of me sometimes. But, yeah, walk off dinger, I think. Imagine your bat flip on that. I don't, I don't, if you hit a walk off dinger, I'd probably run with it to first base. And I'd probably be sprinting because I would be so shocked that it happened.
Starting point is 01:29:47 But the feeling of hitting a home run is so different than any other feeling. And I say this all the time. A wood bat ball hit squarely. the crack in the way that it feels, it is the best sporting sound. It's better than like the swish of a mesh or chain or like bar and in on hockey. It's just the best sound and feeling.
Starting point is 01:30:08 It's a pure sound. Yeah. And the only peers, the other pure sound that comes to mind immediately, although this is obviously biased to me, is the sound of a puck on fresh ice with nobody there and it echoes. That's a great sound.
Starting point is 01:30:25 Do you like the puck better or the skates when you're ripping the ice by yourself? Puck. Really? The skates is great. Yeah. But the puck is what reminds me of like a frozen pond. You're outside. It's cold.
Starting point is 01:30:36 It's crisp. And you drop that first puck. It's a great sound. Getting romantic here about sports. Yeah, no, that's awesome. Did you play any ball through the summer? Co-training ball? Baseball?
Starting point is 01:30:47 Yeah. Yeah, we had like an eight-game season or something like that for a senior. So I played, I don't know, played six of the games as a way on vacation. It's funny. I never asked you. You're right. I never asked you about ball. As soon as you said that, I'm like, it's not like, don't. Yeah, well, it's a weird season. So we played us older guys. We'd play four innings and the young guys would play three innings. And it was awesome because it was a social outing. But like the first couple games, everyone had to travel in their own vehicle. Baseball, no spitting on the diamond, no sunflower seeds. I can tell you by game five. I saw seeds. I saw chew. I saw beer. On the bench, like for after the game, like it was back to senior baseball. But the first couple of games, like, I'm sort of like, okay, no chew, no seeds. Is it really baseball without those two things?
Starting point is 01:31:37 No, it is not. No. So, yeah, I was thankful I got to get out. I got to do something for a little bit. It was a very, very short-lived. And the downside when you're off that long and you're old is you get sore really quick. I ran at a men's league run on Monday night. I haven't played basketball in four years.
Starting point is 01:31:52 I played for like 25 minutes. every muscle my lower body hurts and I skate quite often skating's nice because you can glide in turn you have to move your legs in basketball to get to the end you're saying hockey players are soft no I'm just saying I like in hockey
Starting point is 01:32:07 when I'm dog tired that I know I can make a big you turn and get halfway back to my end I might not get back there to back check but at least it looks like I'm trying running running I'm on one spot bent over holding my knees and everyone's like what are you doing Well, I appreciate you coming in.
Starting point is 01:32:24 It's always a pleasure having you in Kinger. Yeah, thanks, man. It's always entertaining. It's good to sit down with you and wish you nothing but success here with Hoop Factory and Golden Ticket Sports. And look forward to seeing what you guys do here in the future. Well, thanks a lot. Thanks for having me on, as always. And you keep getting bigger and bigger.
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Starting point is 01:33:07 We were supposed to get to your old Brady hard on. Oh, well, let's do it here for two minutes. Sure, your Steelers are 7 and 0. Yeah, defense, man. Best coach in the league as well. Best coach in the league. After hours, we back. Yes.
Starting point is 01:33:23 He won the little NFL talk. We talked about the NFL and tailgating, but we never actually got on to the current season. So fair. I am a, I was a Patriots fan, but I was not a Patriots fan because I was a Tom Brady fan. Everybody gets sour when I say that.
Starting point is 01:33:39 So now I'm a Buccaneers fan. And when Tom Brady retires, I'm no longer a Bucks fan. I will be a Vikings fan because I've been to Vikings games. My wife is from Minnesota. and I know going to college in Green Bay in Wisconsin. The Wisconsin people are going to hate me for saying that, but the atmosphere in Minnesota is unbelievable,
Starting point is 01:34:00 and I'm going to hopefully get to experience that for the rest of my life at least once a year, which, I mean, I can't say that for any other team. So going to all this, I'm a Tom Brady fan. I follow the guy. He is the best. You can't argue him. Everything about the guy is unreal, except the only thing that frustrated me is I went, I just retire a patriot
Starting point is 01:34:20 That's the only thing that bothered me But now I'm seeing them as a buck And having fun and maybe the Rains are a little loosened Grongs back Oh my God This is why this is after hours Because I would have just walked out
Starting point is 01:34:32 If you started with this I would have left Like I You're gonna have to wipe the mic off There's gonna be puke on the mic From this Tom Brady love Oh my God Okay
Starting point is 01:34:41 Yes He should have stayed At Patriot That would have been the noble thing to do That would have been the noble thing to do. But because he's so arrogant, he wants to prove that he can do it on his own, which he's not going to do it on his own, but I will give him credit. He went to the best possible situation.
Starting point is 01:34:58 I think he's answered the question, Belichick or Brady right now. Belichick's team is playing third stringers. He's got guys not playing. Oh, my God. Get serious. Get serious. So you got Tom and Tampa who cannot throw like a 10 yard out now. It's like five-yard dumps all the time.
Starting point is 01:35:15 Just dump it off. Thank God. Grunk. Now, what is this week? Seven? What week are we in? I don't even know what week run, but regardless, the first three weeks, Krunk looked like he was still on the party cruise. It looked like he hadn't really played football. He probably was on the party cruise. Yeah, now it looks like, oh, he can block and run and there's some there's some grunkish things. But Tom Brady is Tom Checkdown. Let's be honest. He cannot throw the ball like he used to. The guy can't even remember what down it is this year. That's how old he's getting. Three, four. I will give you credit. He's a competitor. He wants to. wants to win. But he is in a really good situation in what we would probably say a little bit of a weaker division this year. I would agree. Him making playoffs I think is a big plus. How long does he
Starting point is 01:35:59 play for down there? When does it go south? Because I have to believe the paths are going to be good within a year or two. It's just inevitable, even though they've had like 10 bad draft classes. He figures out a way to get it done. And the Newton thing seems to be a failure. But I thought the Newton thing was going to work. When they signed Newton, I was like... It just so many hiccups in his game. Just like fumbles and just not doing things that he should have done all the time in Carolina.
Starting point is 01:36:30 Like that one year in Carolina was such a one-off. Yeah. Right. But anyways, I don't know if I can handle you cheering for the bucks just for Tom. Why? Why does that bother you so much? Listen. Pick a team, man.
Starting point is 01:36:45 No, no, no, no. No, okay. You can cheer partially for him. No, no, I'll bring it back to why I do this, okay? Can I tell you why I do this? I'm a die-hard oil fan. It almost brings me to tears when they lose out of the playoffs or do awful things or suck as bad as they do.
Starting point is 01:37:00 It trains life from me. But you're used to it. It's true. And what I said was after that, I said, you know what, no more of this. I can't do this across four sports. This takes up too much from my brain. Like my brain hurts.
Starting point is 01:37:13 My body hurts. And then they get McDavid and dry saddle And they should be just like Fun to watch and you go watch after games And you're just like What are they doing out there some days? Like fuck But that's me
Starting point is 01:37:25 Right to the core Okay That's what I cheer with the soul for the Oilers Okay And I swore never again for any other sport Because I just can't handle the ups and downs I can't handle a team missing the playoffs For 10 bloody years
Starting point is 01:37:38 It is painful Right So what I did was Is I remember when Tom Brady got the call up that playoffs, right? And I was like, oh, and I kind of heard so, and that's kind of cool. And then they win, whatever, and you're like, oh, cool. So everybody goes, oh, you're a patron fan because they won. I'm like,
Starting point is 01:37:55 well, kind of. I don't know. I like Tom Brady. I like what he talks about. I like that, you know, that he's a pretty clean cut guy and he's not a jackass, and you call him arrogant, and I'm like, I just think he's confident. I think it's awesome. And so I did that with that. And then when it came to basketball, When LeBron came back from Cleveland, I went, I'm going to cheer for Cleveland because I like LeBron. I like what he's doing. I like that he came back and owned up to it. I liked that he won.
Starting point is 01:38:19 And then he goes to L.A. I'm not a Cleveland fan anymore. I can care less about the Cleveland Cavaliers. And I'm not a LeBron fan in Lakers because he just, I don't know, he kind of is a jackass and he's in L.A.ers and whatever. But I just, I can't do that with teams. I can't just. I got my sport I'm an oiler fan
Starting point is 01:38:42 and once I stray away from there after Tom Brady retires I'll become a Minnesota Viking fan alright in the NFL you're going to hear me I'm going to be green and gold green and gold I'm seeing Wisconsin I stuck in the man you got the wrong team there but
Starting point is 01:38:57 purple purple I just don't like being held down to teams I like cheering for athletes why can't I cheer for an athlete what's so hard about that so basically what you're telling all your listeners is you got your sports heartbroken so much and it hurts you so much you can't cheer for teams because you're just so heartbroken
Starting point is 01:39:21 about it now this is that's what sports is about the pain of losing what you do with the oilers I'm a brave friend you know how much loot like we're really good and we barely ever win and I take chirps all the time I'm not leaving that I'm not leaving the Steelers but but but how I guess my question is then How did you fall in love with the Braves? TBS. Maddox-Smoltz-Glaug. Back in the day, that's fair.
Starting point is 01:39:44 Chipper Jones. They were on TV once again. That eastern time zone, watching the games after school. I fell in love with them. Even to this day, all my friends that are Jay's fans chirped me because, obviously.
Starting point is 01:39:56 Yeah, and so I don't know. I struggle because, you know, everybody hates, well, not everybody hates, but a lot of people hate Barry Bonds, but I remember the Barry Bonds years of the San Fran Giants, and those were really fun to watch. I guess I just never, You know, I don't have this memory of growing up watching the NBA
Starting point is 01:40:13 and watching the Lakers win a championship or the Celtics or whoever you want to throw in there. So to me, I guess it's hard to get on, I guess tomorrow, if you like, I could put up a dart board, we could throw a dart, and I can become a, oh, give me somebody random, a New Orleans, what's their basketball team? Pelicans. The Pelicans, sure.
Starting point is 01:40:35 You want me to do that? I mean, I can do that just to say I got a team. This sounds like a charity event is what it sounded like. Yeah, well, it kind of is for the NBA. I mean. So will the Oilers love not die then, no matter what? McDavid's gone. Oh, no, the Oilers.
Starting point is 01:40:50 That sting. Yeah. So it's just the other sports. It's just the other sports. I have a hard time. I always grew up. The only thing that kid, I'll clarify this. Oilers, Rough riders.
Starting point is 01:41:05 Oh, okay. But in fairness to, and now maybe, you know, I tell you what, I got to get into a rush game. Because growing up in Saskatchewan, we had no pro sports except for the Rough Riders. So you cheer for the Ruff Riders. It's why Ruff Riders have so many damn fans. Saskatchewan has nothing else.
Starting point is 01:41:23 Now we've got the Rush in Saskatoon. I'd like to go watch it. I hear it's phenomenal. I hear it's a great event. Well, let's do this and let's make this a plan. Non-COVID, let's say next spring, summer. We go watch the Rush and we'll watch the Sebel. Professional Basketball League in Saskatoon.
Starting point is 01:41:42 Professional Basketball League in Saskatoon? Yeah, so Eminton's got a team. The Rattlers are in Saskatoon. The Stingers are in Alberta. The Rattlers won two years ago. So I think there's six or eight teams. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Did you say basketball or baseball?
Starting point is 01:41:56 Basketball. Yeah, Siebel. They've done a great job marketing. They had a bubble. They were the first... And all the basketball people are like, this guy's a moron. That's great.
Starting point is 01:42:05 No, it's all good. But it's, it was the first league back in a bubble. they were doing their championships before anyone else. So they got everyone in the bubble in Ontario and did a little championship. Well, it better be better than the one, I've been to one NBA game. I want to watch, which I want to watch the Minnesota Timberwolves play the Cleveland Cavaliers, post-Lebron, and Kevin Love didn't play. It was beyond terrible.
Starting point is 01:42:34 That's rough. I can't imagine that. Am I going to have a better experience than that? No. well you should in theory because you're going to have a close game these games are really high scoring i i'm going to guess that the rush is going to be like more jam-packed and loud and stuff but the the sebo games are really high scoring there's a lot of like guys that are playing pro overseas there's some university guys mixed in there's certain rules that you have to have like development players
Starting point is 01:42:59 and stuff i think it's really good for the sport if they can keep it up they've got some like cbc broadcast and stuff like that so we should do that and hit the minor pro sports and support and see what that environment's like. I'm game for that. Yeah. I'm game for that. That's how you got off your Tom Brady love. We got to.
Starting point is 01:43:18 After all that, you still judge me on Tom Brady? Yeah. I just... Wait, do you got a sport? Do you got a team for each sport then? So... Your Pittsburgh Steelers, who are having a fantastic season, I might say.
Starting point is 01:43:32 Yep. NHL, you're an oiler man? I have, yeah, have to be just growing up that way and my connection. Baseball, you're Atlanta? Yeah. And... Lakers.
Starting point is 01:43:41 Lakers. Except for Lebron. Except for this year. You can't cheer for your team when they win a championship. I can't cheer for them with LeBron. What kind of fan are you that can't cheer for... Because I'm loyal to the team and he's such a... He signifies things that I don't like about pro sports.
Starting point is 01:44:01 So when he's done playing, I will be a Lakers fan again. I cannot stomach. I was not cheering when they won the championship at all. at all. Is there a player that could affect your love for the Edmonton Oilers, the Atlanta Braves or the Pittsburgh Steelers in the same way? No. That they acquired?
Starting point is 01:44:20 Yeah, that they bring in and you're like, you know what? I'm just turning my love off for the team. You give me a hard fucking time. Yeah, no, that's fair. And they get the little, your team just won a championship and you only would have a celebratory champagne. You're like, no, screw right. That guy sucks it.
Starting point is 01:44:37 I'm done with that for a year. I would have a tough time swallowing Jeter because I think Jeter's amazing but Jeter in the day going to Atlanta that would have been tough. I just, Yankees, I despise everything, Yankees. I would have a tough time if Tom Brady was on the Steelers. I think I'd quit cheering for the Steelers
Starting point is 01:44:57 if I'm being honest here. Who else did I really not like? I'm just thinking of guys that I cheered against so hard. Yeah, those two. Randy Johnson, maybe I hated Randy Johnson back in the day. A guy who blew up the pigeon. Yeah, one of the greatest memes of all time. Hockey-wise, it's not really the same.
Starting point is 01:45:20 And basketball, just LeBron. I could probably handle anyone else. I'm trying to think who else. Carl Malone, when Malone went over there for that year at the end, that really. Now, the flip side is Steve Nash could have played anywhere, and I would have been a Steve Nash fan. So. You're not allowed to follow a class.
Starting point is 01:45:37 I know. That's your rule. That's what you're talking about. I know, but as a Laker fan first, Lakers were beating out Nash every single year, but I had that little soft spot right in the bottom. You must have a couple players in the NHL that you got soft spots for. You got a little man crush on.
Starting point is 01:45:52 Well, one of them isn't playing anymore. He played for the arch nemesis. Jerome Gimelow was fun to watch. That guy was... Two-way. He did everything. Fought, scored. Man, always smiling.
Starting point is 01:46:05 I would have loved to have seen him in an oily uniform. It would look funny. It would have looked funny. Probably wouldn't look right. Probably, you know, no, no. I don't know. Other guys, Duncan Keith, he's like one of my favorite defensemen all the time. But, you know, he's slowly aging up there.
Starting point is 01:46:20 Right. Yeah. And it's just that sports passion. And like I said, my players, they don't cheer for teams, just athletes. And I'm sure our kids, when they get older, they're going to cheer for athletes and it's going to drive us nuts. You think so? It'll drive me nuts for sure.
Starting point is 01:46:37 No, no, no, you think they're actually going to cheer for athletes, not sports? Yeah, I would say, like, my girls that watch sports, they're athletes. They're tuned into athletes. And they will change the team that they're cheering for depending, like, I have Tori. So I really hit a sour spot with you with Tom Brady. No, I'm just getting really upset. Like, okay, I'm a Bucks fan. No, I'm a Celtics fan first.
Starting point is 01:46:57 Celtics are winning. I'm a Celtics. Oh, Celtics are out. I'm only champ. I could just, oh, my God. Yeah, we shouldn't have even turned the mics back on for this. I think it was just so angry about this. There you go.
Starting point is 01:47:10 Now you know how I feel. Well, thanks again, sir. I'm glad I got you fired up. You're not yawning anymore. That's for damn sure. No, coffee's kicked in. I'm good. I think it's Tom Brady's kicked in.
Starting point is 01:47:23 All right. All right. We'll leave her here, and everyone can laugh at this.

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