Shaun Newman Podcast - Ep. #196 - Officer Patrick McNulty

Episode Date: August 25, 2021

5 years as a border official. He is candid (to put it lightly) about the things he witnessed while on duty - strip searches, Covid restrictions, border closer (or maybe not?) & so much more. This is a ride so buckle up. Let me know what you think Text me 587-217-8500

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So buckle up. Here we go. This is Officer McNulty, and welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. Welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. Today I'm joined by Officer Patrick. I hope I'm saying it right. McNulty. So first off, sir.

First off, sir, thanks for hopping on. Thank you for having me. It's my absolute pleasure. Anyone who wants to hear the truth and help get the message out there, thank you. Thank you, thank you from the bottom of my heart. Now, where are boats in Canada, are you first off? So my listeners can get a feel for where we're, you know, doing this distance Zoom call from.

Absolutely. So I'm in Ontario right now. I'm somewhere near the Thousand Islands. I won't disclose my exact location for obvious reasons. Absolutely. Yeah. And just so people know who I am. Correct.

I spent five years with the Canada Border Services Agency as the Border Service's officer. My first two years were on the front line at the Fort Erie Peace Bridge land border directly across from Buffalo, New York. If you know anything about the area, if you know anything about Buffalo, high crime rate area, very high action, very busy port of entry. It's one of the busiest in Canada

as far as land border goes. You've got Peace Bridge in Fort Erie. You've got Queenston, Lewiston, also in the Niagara region. You've got Ambassador Bridge in Windsor. Like, there are very certain areas that are just very, very busy because of where they are. So Windsor, for example, you've got Detroit.

So obviously, you're going to have a high crime rate. A lot of guns. of drugs of bad people trying to come across day in and day out. You're going to be dealing with drunk drivers. You're going to get a lot of wants and warrants. You're going to see sort of the underbelly of society working in a port of entry like this. And so that's what I had, that's what I was exposed to first two years on the job. And I'll just kind of throw something out there for your listeners just to help expand their minds a little bit at the type of criminals that are out there in society right now. Everyone knows about drug addicts and everyone knows that there's a narcotics problem

in Canada and in the U.S. and all around the world because a drug addict over time, they start to become very obvious that they're a drug addict. They start to physically degrade in front of you over time. And depending on the drug, you can almost start to pinpoint what they're addicted to. Oh, this person looks like they could be addicted to meth because of this, this, this and this. This person's an alcoholic because of this, this and this. And then they start to do the drug addict things over time like break and enters and petty theft and whatever it is to kind of fuel their addiction.

so they become worse at hiding it over time. Part of what we're trained to do with the border is to see through the illusions in society. To find the real criminals out there who are masters at disguising as people like you and me. And what am I talking about? Well, I'm talking about pedophiles and predators. They get better over time, okay?

They're already kind of invisible. They already look like normal people and they already have normal jobs and they already blend in very well in society. They're high school teachers, their college teachers, they're janitors. They're the guy who delivers your mail. they are people who you know, guaranteed you know one in your day in and day out life.

Guaranteed. You know a predator. And these people are already invisible. And over time, they get better and better and better at hiding their tracks. You're saying guaranteed you know one, but you actually don't know is what you're meaning. You don't know. And that's why when these people get caught, when someone does get caught, whether it starts because they found something on their computer and then they linked it to say a real life victim

who they now have evidence. okay, this person was kidnapped, tortured and murdered on camera for viewing pleasure, essentially. When they catch these people, what do you hear? What do you, everyone, everyone, the neighbors, I can't believe that this man was capable of that. He was a father, a husband. Everyone liked him. It's always these likable, charismatic people that just do very well at their jobs. They're very well at blending in.

And then when they get exposed for the predators they are, it just shocks everyone around them. And then cognitive dissonance starts to set in, right? Where people just start to either immediately forget that it happened or just, well, yeah, you know, it's just the one off over time. But there are very illicit markets out there. The drug trade is obviously one of the most illicit markets out there. But if you don't think that there is a very high price to pay for a child and that there is a very real supply and demand market out there for that, you're out of your goddamn mind. So that's just one thing I want to throw out there to kind of help expand people's minds because we're hearing a lot about child trafficking and human trafficking. and there's a lot of nonsense out there in the mainstream media

where they seem to want to just brush this type of stuff under the rug. Not cool. Not cool at all. This is something that we should all be very, very, very worried about and very concerned about because it's happening right now here in Canada. And if you think the government of Canada doesn't know about it, if you think there is an intelligence out about it, if you think this isn't one of those things that we on the front line know, we need to demand more resources and energy to go into fighting this, it's only when the public finds out there's a problem that the government reacts and does something. So the public isn't really aware of this problem.

So the government really never has to react and try and fight it. Just throwing that out there for your audience. Well, this is one way to start a podcast, Patrick. Absolutely. I think over the last, I don't know, I'm going to say a year, let's call it year to three years, I'm speaking myself now, I've definitely heard rumblings of different, trafficking children specifically, but just human trafficking in general. You know, I was listening to Joe Rogan talk to, I always butcher her name,

Yomni Park, the lady who escaped North Korea. And she talks very openly about the border relations between China and North Korea and some of the absolute craziness that happens there. And it just blew my mind. So you have some kind of inkling. But in saying that, in everyday life, where I am, I guess I just don't look around and see it, right? It's not like, no, of course not. The drugs for sure. Absolutely. You want to go find the drugs? I mean, all you got to do is drive

down the one street and everybody knows, you know, every town's got it for the most part where if you're looking for something or you want to see what that kind of looks like, it's very evident, just like you said. But the child trafficking, you know, it's one that once again, I've heard rumblings of in the company I work for. We had a safety call, if you can believe it, from a guy in Texas and his safety moment was child trafficking. And I think everybody on the call in a giant corporation went, oh, like that kind of, you know, normally we're talking about, you know, putting your hard hat on right or something, you know, very generic. And you're saying you got to witness this firsthand then? Absolutely. I got to witness it in terms of I understand the statistics.

I understand how many children go missing every year. I understand that there are many children that go missing that no one will ever find out about because of how this trade works, how these people, get kidnapped. It's not just children, it's entire families. And sometimes it's, if you take a look at the Canada, or sorry, the U.S.-Mexico border, I'm not going to speak firsthand on that because I didn't work with those officers. However, when I worked at headquarters, which I haven't explained to your audience yet, I did work directly with USCBP officers, and I did work directly alongside with Border Patrol officers. So you just, you get to know these people because everyone's a human being and you start to share stories and and tell tales, and you start to learn a little bit about what goes on down there.

And, you know, just like the rest of the world, I was a little bit controlled by mainstream media in the sense that I'm hearing about what Trump's doing, and I'm not really understanding. And the whole idea behind the wall, I mean, you take a look at how the media spins that. Well, they make it look like it's a ethnic thing. It's a racism thing. It has to do with keeping Mexicans out. No, it has to do with keeping Mexicans from fucking dying in the desert.

These families are so desperate to get out, and they don't understand how it works. So they just try to cross a desert with their families and they fucking die. There are teams out there that literally do search and rescue missions all day and night to try and save lives. Because there's a legal way to do these things. You can lawfully immigrate from Mexico into the United States. It's not this impossible trap that the media makes it seem like it out to be. The whole purpose of the wall was to say, here's the door. Here's the door.

Because not only are there people who die trying to cross that border, they're paying coyotes to get them across. cross. So they're paying people money to get in the back of the truck with the children for the false promise of appearing somewhere in the United States with a passport and a job and whatever. And they're never heard of again. Ever. Ever. Boom. They're in the market. Gone. No one knows they're missing. Even if someone in Mexico does know they're missing or whichever country it is, what's the local police service going to do? Look for them for 24 hours. Right? Can we rewind this for a second?

Absolutely. Can we rewind to when you first start into this? I feel like we've jumped. We have. Thank you. Okay. Can we bring it back a little bit? Like, was this something, I'm just trying to get a feel for you, Patrick, I guess. I've watched your videos and I can see the passion. I can see how much it bothers you. I can see how much you want your message to get out. I'm trying to figure out, you go into this profession because I'm assuming you want to serve and protect, you want to help people, you want to make sure we're. Absolutely. assume that. Now, this starts five years ago, or can you leave me through the process up to the point of when you first start to see some of us? Yeah, so five years ago, right, I had a lot of enforcement

experience. So when I say I got to meet the underbelly of society, I mean, I was, I was meeting people that I just, I couldn't believe how evil they were. As I was arresting people for having possession of child porn, or I'm arresting someone who's on a warrant because, you know, they shot someone in cold blood on the front lawn at a two-year-old's birthday party, and now they're wanted Canada wide. So these are the type of people that I was arresting, meeting, having face-to-face conversations with. But when it came to child porn, that's where it really, really, really shocked me in the first two years in the job where I'm learning that, wow, I'm finding people with child porn that also have foster form applications in their car. Okay, just as an example. So these are just

the types of things that you see and you almost get desensitized to on the front lines. Officers always get desensitized to the stuff throughout their career. So the things that once shocked you, don't shock you over time. And this happens very, very quickly depending on how much you're exposed to this stuff. But then you realize when you casually tell a story around the dinner table with people that don't do the job and you see the look of shock in their face, you realize, wow, just how little society understands about the evil that's out there in the world. So anyways, that first two years job, I would, I would,

pinched myself that I couldn't believe my job was real. So happy to work there. So proud of the job itself, I was learning so much. I worked with tremendous officers. I was very fortunate to be in a place where, for those of you that don't know anything about the Canada Border Services Agency, it's a very new law enforcement agency as far as law enforcement agencies go in Canada. The RCMP is being around forever. OPP is being around forever. Toronto Police being around forever. The Canada Border Services Agency is like 14 or 15 years old. I mean, it started after of, don't quote me on that, but it started as a response to 9-11 due to political pressures from external countries. Canada wasn't going to do anything to beef up its national security because

Canada doesn't actually care about national security from a government perspective. Why would they care about keeping the country safe when they're in bed with all these worldwide tyrants. But anyways, so Canada decided to focus on our national security to appease the United States, basically. The U.S. said, look, we're ramping up national security. And this is just, I'm just speaking in layman terms here. You guys are a bit of a weakness. You're just north of us. We kind of have this undefended border between us. You need to get your shit together. Hence, eventually, the development of the Canada Border Services Agency. So the agency is very young, and officers ever since, ever since they were granted their powers at the border, national security, policing

powers. They have more authority at the border and more power in their left hand than every police officer that you know because of the national security mandate, okay, and because you're dealing with people who are seeking entry into the country. So it's very invasive. So officers have always had this authority, but the government of Canada didn't always give them the tools and the training necessary to do the very important job. So what do I mean by that? From day one, since the inception of the agency, they've been able to do things like road sides. If you're fucking hammered, pull you out of your car and arrest you for it. They've been able to search you, seize your guns. They've been able to strip search you naked. They've been able to detain you for suspicion of,

say, packing your insides, forcing yourself to swallow tons of cocaine. They're able to detain you up to about a week and wait for you to take a shit on a special toilet that we then sift through to find the cocaine that's coming out of your ass. Okay, they've always had this authority, but they weren't always given the training and the tools. So it's only being the officers at the front line since day one, fighting and begging to get things like, hey, we're arresting American citizens who have the right to bear arms. These people are coming up here. with a fucking arsenal as if it's no big deal. Like by accident, like, oh, what do you mean?

I can't bring this into Canada. And they got a fucking whatever in the back. And then they've got, you know, they've got a handgun tucked in, carry concealed right at the front. And our officers didn't have guns. At one point, if you wanted to arrest someone, you had to ask a supervisor for their handcuffs. Okay, so the government of Canada has never once cared about public safety.

It's all a big virtue signal. And it's only once things happen where maybe they get exposed in the news for their just gross dysfunction and incompetence, that they then respond to improve things. Now, I'm talking about the border because the border has been tasked and mandated with national security. Now, when it comes to the lockdowns and the COVID-19 response, this is where the biggest flaws of all in the governmental response to the COVID-19 pandemic, according to their data and according to their own protocols, this agency was directly responsible for keeping us all safe, right? Well, I had

front-line tickets to the shit show, and I'm telling you they didn't do their due diligence. They didn't follow their own public health protocols. And it's pretty outrageous when you find out who the government of Canada determines to be essential versus non-essential when it comes to coming and going out of the country. All of that is correct. Can you, that's a lot in one little sentence there.

I mean, there's multiple sentences. Let me know what you want to hone in on. Well, you say that you were front-roval. to the shit show, right? Yes, sure. When, when, when they say, okay, listen,

we got COVID-19, it's running rampant around the world, or you guys are on the front line, you got to make sure we're all safe. Yep. I assume, I think, logically, in the first month, that had to have been a little bit interesting

because not everything, you can't just like, and all of a sudden, all the rules change, although I'm sure that's how it was supposed to happen, right? It sounds, it was very obvious, me having lived through it, that that's how it's supposed to happen for sure. Okay. So could you

maybe just give us some examples of what you saw in the shit show? I'm just, I'm just curious, I guess. Absolutely. So from Ford, Erie, I spent two years there, transferred to headquarters in an intelligence position where I was bored out of my mind. I was assigned to a, the government of Canada, or something else out there that's a bomb, is essentially just one big money laundering operation. So they create pilot projects and initiatives where They never have to deliver any results. There's never a final product. And most of the employees are tasked with nothing, with no accountability.

Well, anytime you have a pilot project or something that you invest money in, and it's never expected to deliver results and it never goes anywhere, like a car wash that never washes any cars, but it makes $6 million a year, it's a big money laundering operation, okay, and that's rampant through a government. But aside from that, I happen to work on one of these projects where I was bored out of my mind. It's never expected to go anywhere. So I just had a lot of time and a lot of access to intelligence files from all over the

world. So I just read and read and read and read and learned and learned. And then when I had enough of just being bored out of my mind, working at headquarters and learning about the upper brass and the internal politics and the corruption and how we have internal politicians and government that the public don't even know about, that they're not elected, they make outrageous salaries. And you would not believe the power that these people wield. Outrageous. But that's a story for another day that we can dive in and dissect and spend a little podcast on. But we got nothing but time, Patrick. In my mind, we got nothing to time. Okay. Perfect. So I'm going to keep going on the shit. show because I threw a lot about headquarters there and that's a whole other uh well then do me a favor

do me a favor here patrick if you're going to say something like that and we don't get to talk about it then let's stick to well i just i want to i want to it's one thing to say it but i want i want to hear the examples i want to hear what you learned you said you sat and sifted through files i mean that doesn't happen for every uh regular civilian right so please you're very passionate you got you're you're Let me go to the response and then we'll backtrack to headquarters because that is outrageous when Canadians hear how unbelievably horribly they handled this response. And they basically publicly backed everything up that I'm going to say through their own nonsensical evidence and data that they published in media.

So I was bored out of my mind at headquarters, begging to get back in the field. So then I got, eventually I got transferred to the port of Lansdown. Okay. So for people who don't know where I am, it's the Thousand Islands Bridge. in the Thousand Islands region. It's about 40 minutes away from Kingston, Ontario, and about 30 minutes away from Brockville, Ontario. Right along the St. Lawrence River,

and it's essentially a bridge that goes from Canada off of the 401. It goes to an island called Hill Island, and that's the port of entry. Surrounded by water, there's another bridge that connects you with New York. Okay, so over to Alexandria Bay, and it's the main artery if you were going to go to, say, Syracuse, New York. Okay. So you understand where I worked.

I also was on the Marine Unit where I would go out on a boat and patrol the St. Lawrence River. So I transferred there December of 2019. Right as internal emails we're starting to go around about a respiratory virus, a novel coronavirus in Wuhan. Okay? So we're starting to see this. But in government, you're always getting these updates from other government departments.

Whether it's, I always use the example of a vector in blueberries. and now all of a sudden blueberries can't come in because if one of them drops on the ground, well, then it could devastate, say, our farmers crops or something. So we're always just getting nonsense, right? Now, you just delete it. You ignore it. You kind of sift through your emails every day when you have a chance. All right, delete, delete, delete.

Oh, this one's interesting. Delete, delete, delete. We're seeing the Wuhan, right? Something about Novel virus. Now, come January, people are panicking on the news about this thing that I was deleting. Okay? So then I started to pay a little more attention, like, oh, why are people freaking out over the flu. And that was kind of the message that we were being told internally in government.

They sent a representative, someone who's a certified N95 fit tester for the government to come down and explain to us why it was unnecessary to wear masks. So he came down, he explained why this was going to be different from the SARS response, how they've learned that masks are useless and do nothing. They don't want us wearing it because it could just, it could potentially freak out the public and people are already starting to get a little upset. Now, this is January. According to the news, there was one confirmed case of COVID-19 in Canada at this point in time, Sunnybrook Hospital in Toronto. And then a few weeks later, there was a second confirmed case, and it was the spouse of this person.

So the government is claiming that they can track COVID-19 in real time. This is what they're telling the public. Okay, so we're at two. Now, the first week of February, it was all over the news that there was a repatriation flight where there were Canadians who were trapped in Wuhan, and the government made this big political show on television about how they were going to safely repatriate the Canadians. They talked, they had the experts reading from their scripts on podiums,

here's how we're going to do it, here's the plan. And they came up with this plan where they were going to fly everyone on this flight and land at the military base in Trenton, Ontario, just down the road from the port of entry that I worked at. Now, part of their protocols was that they were going to force all, all of these flight members, everyone who's coming straight from Wuhan, potentially riddled with COVID-19, okay? They were going to isolate these people for two weeks in a military detention,

or sorry, not detention center, a military quarantine facility. That was a Freudian slip right there. Okay, so a military quarantine facility. So the public was pretty confident that we could safely bring these people into Canada. I happened to work directly with the team that went to clear that repatriation flight and just wait till you hear what I have to say. The chief who was directly responsible for leading the charge, as in he was the brains behind the operation of how they're going to keep Canadians safe.

He was the one who orchestrated what type of personal protective equipment the officer is going to wear, and he was the one who decided that no one needs to isolate or quarantine after exposure to the passengers off of this flight. If you follow my Instagram at all, and I know you haven't seen much of my stuff, posted an article where this same chief in 2011 at the exact same port of entry, he ordered the strip search of 48 students, students, children, some of them were underage, as in under the age of 18, he ordered the strip search of an entire bus of 48 children because there was an odor of marijuana somewhere on the bus. Now that authority comes from what's called section 98

of the Customs Act. That's the authority. That's the authority. to disrobe someone and strip search them naked. It's a very invasive search, and you don't even have the right to call a lawyer before the search happens. You have the right to call one after. So it's a very intimidating experience, and take it from me,

I have strip searched countless hardened criminals. And you see these people in public saying, oh, fuck you and acting tough, and then you get these criminals in a room where you're about to have them bend over, you're going to look up their asshole, you're going to get them to pull their foreskin back, You're going to basically inspect every aspect of their body.

And you see these hardened criminals tremble and shake. It's a traumatic experience. So this chief, not to mention, you need a multiplicity of indicators to justify this. You need to have a combination of like, I can tell that this person is bodypacking something based on my training and my observational skills. Maybe we have intelligence on this person. And then you take your grounds, you essentially present your case to a high. up to a superintendent. Here's my grounds. I'm basically requesting authorization to strip search a criminal. Do you approve yes or no? It's not for a chief to come down and decide, nothing gets through

my gate, you know, like it was just an egotistical. He's a psychopathic maniac, and he tried to order officers to do this to follow unlawful orders, and the officers who had a few years in refused. They said, no, no. But then he just targeted the ones who were on probation. So he got them to do it. Okay, the ones who were scared, he abused his authority. Now, pretty outrageous. That is a human rights violation, a charter rights violation. Every mainstream media source that reported on it just reported it as an outrageous abuse of authority. He publicly embarrassed the agency, not to mention, probably scarred those children for life. How are they ever going to view law enforcement again for the rest of their goddamn life? Put yourself in their shoes. You're on a class field trip and you're excited.

You're going to another country and some kid in your class maybe smoke to join or whatever. and now you're in a room trembling while someone's looking up your asshole looking up your vagina. I mean, you got to understand just how bad this is. Okay, but was this guy fired? No. No.

Did he face any discipline? No. No. He kept his position because the internal politics in government, it's an old boys club. It has nothing to do with merit. It has nothing to do with your, your demonstrated integrity over the course of your career.

It is straight up who you know, how long you've known them, how many times you've partied, maybe what kind of dirt you have on someone else. That's basically how it works in the upper brass in government, these unelected politicians who hold all kinds of power. So this chief, he was the one who led the charge on the repatriation flights. Now, to add to his incompetence, a few years later, a live bomb was found at the port of Lansdown. There's a bit of a process when you find a live bomb in that process for anyone with half a brain, as you can imagine includes evacuating and creating a safe radius, a safe perimeter,

because these things can fucking explode and they can cause grievous bodily harm or death. If I was in a building and I found out that someone self-declared themselves a bomb technician and decided that none of those safe protocols needed to happen, I'd be a little upset at the thought of my child or me potentially being blown up in a building because someone's ego just didn't want to have that make the news. So once again, the same chief overruled the health and safety. Like, we know what to do. There are responses for this type of action.

Okay, when you find a bomb, everyone knows you got to get the hell away from it and call a bomb technician. So they called a bomb technician, but they didn't stop traffic. And if you've ever crossed a busy land border, you just kind of sit there and sit there and sit there. So in this case, a bunch of people were just sitting ducks potentially waiting to get blown up. Okay. So this same chief, once again, this is being investigated in.

internally now for well over two years, nothing's happening. Internal investigations, there's no civilian oversight in this agency. So these internal investigations go nowhere because the public never finds out about it. If the public knew this happened, they'd be furious. Furious, if there was an article with the date and the time and people were able to pinpoint, oh, I was there. You know what I mean? There'd be some problems.

He'd have to maybe answer some questions. But no, this tyrant, this incompetent loser who should have retired seven years ago, people don't stay on the job that long past their retirement. Unless there's something in it for them, unless they're embezzling funds or whatever, which is very easy for these people to do because there's no accountability, and they've been given a surplus of cash for COVID-19 response,

and that cash has gone nowhere except straight into their pocket. But anyways, so this guy was tasked with leading the charge, incompetent, doesn't care about public safety. He has such a big ego that he went out and he had a hat personally made specifically for the, the day that said chief in big gold letters. And when he got there, the director for the region saw it and ordered him to take it off. The chief, the director showed up and saw his silly, childish hat and ordered him to take it off in front of the military and the officers. Like,

how embarrassing, but that's just to paint the picture for what a buffoon this guy is. He's the one who led the charge. Now, he had no business ever setting foot inside that plane. But his fucking ego got in the way. So guess what? The plane landed and he insisted on boarding the flight. So he boards the flight to make a big announcement, oh, welcome to Canada, I'm Chief Pergounis, the absolute moron, boards the flight, walks up and down, exposes them to the entire flight. Now remember, at this point, according to the government of Canada, three confirmed cases in all of Canada, according to their own data.

This flight landed in early February. As soon as they were done clearing the flight, it was an absolute joke. The military didn't have masks. on. There was no decontamination procedure. There were no protocols. Everyone was exposed to the people from the flights and you see it in pictures. You can see the pictures. It is close contact to a T, left, right, and center. Now guess what? These officers came right back to work, right back to the community. And other officers at work when they found out, they said, whoa, what the fuck. We're seeing on the

news that this thing can run rampant and kill everyone. This can kill my grandparents. And you want me to work next to this person who was just on that flight, officers said, no, fuck you, I refuse. Right? You have the right to refuse unsafe work. So they said, no, no, no, we refuse. Well, the work refusal is a big deal in government, and it gets reviewed. It was fucking laughed at, okay? That work refusal was laughed at. Get your ass back to work. Well, if you look at the timeline of events, very shortly after, Ontario entered a state of emergency, full lockdown, shut down businesses, no travel, can't leave your fucking house, like outrageous the way that we were locking down the community. So the province reacted first. And then a month later, the government of Canada decided that they were going to pretend to react as well.

So they also declared a state of emergency and decided to close the U.S. Canada border. This is where it gets real interesting. Because they made the announcement on television about closing the border before that became a reality in government. The government led the response to the pandemic based on what they said. saw on the news. So they led from the back. It was a reactionary response to whatever was being said on the news. So they would announce on the news that the borders are closed. Then we would get an email from regional director general Sean Hoke. For those of you that see my Instagram, I had a lengthy conversation with him publicly for about 30 minutes on the phone. He's the

regional director general of the Northern Ontario region. Okay. Hold on. Am I going too fast? Like do you? I am you, no, no, no, I will keep going here. I don't want to interrupt. You're doing a great job here. Okay. Are you following along with sort of everything I'm saying here when it comes to the response? Yes. And how this all works?

Yes. Okay. So the government of Canada closed the borders and basically regional director general said, no, this is not true. Not true. Nothing has come down in writing. There's no operational bulletin. It's essentially business is usually.

That's the message that we got. So I'm getting text messages from people. So wait, wait, wait, wait. So what you're saying is, just so I clarify this, all of us Yahoo's and roaming around are being told the border is closed, everything done, can't cross, everything. And we're like, holy crap, that's a big thing. But now what you're saying is the people on the border are actually being told, no, actually we aren't closed because nothing's actually come down.

Yes, that's correct. So all of a sudden, and I don't watch the news, so a lot of this stuff was catching me off guard. I got a text message from my father-in-law saying, boy, you must be four to work today. And I go, what the fuck are you talking about? It was a busy day. Super busy day. Tons of traffic, right? Well, I heard the border's closed. And so if you go back and you even look at articles, even in the mainstream media, there's multiple dates. They give different dates in different times. The border is going to close on this day at this time, this day at midnight. So a day at work was very confusing because members of the public are coming up and they're expecting that we're going

be informed and have some answers for them. So they're saying, when's the border closing? Then we go, it's not. Like, that's sort of what we're telling people. Like, the border is not closing. That's speculation on the news. That's them recommending what the government should do. It's not closed.

But Ontario was closed, right? The provinces were being punished. If you owned a business, you weren't allowed to operate it safely. Meanwhile, people were still coming and going as they pleased. Then the border closed. But there was no direction as to what is essential. versus non-essential, because there's no such thing. There is no legal definition of essential travel versus non-essential travel.

Is this something that the public, for some reason, has just come to accept over the course of the last year and a half? But I'm telling you, you should never accept that. You as a Canadian citizen, you enter this country by right, and you exit this country by right, period. There's no trapping you on this God-given land when you have God-given rights, okay? No such thing as essential travel versus non-essential travel because Canadian citizens, and you see this when you work at the border, you just realize how close we are with Americans. Almost all of us have family on one side of the border or the other. Okay. And it breaks your heart to all of a sudden see these families separated because the government decided.

The government picked the winners and losers in this equation. The government essentially decided we're going to pick who is an essential traveler and who's a national traveler and who's a number. non-essential traveler. So there were some common sense things like, okay, if you're a cross-border trucker, you're obviously an essential worker, the goods need to go back and forth. And you can't be isolating for two weeks at a time and not seeing, you know, you got to get groceries and you have families and you can't have truck drivers just quitting their jobs, right? Bit of a problem. So that's a pretty obvious essential worker. Now, there were also cross-border workers. There are a lot of people who work in Canada and live in the U.S. and vice versa. So cross-border workers have to go

back and forth every single day for work. So they're also exempt from the requirements to quarantine, present a PCR test, all of the things that the government implemented way later in the game, way later. In the beginning, it was just mandatory self-isolation, essentially a pinky promise at the border is what you're telling people, promise us you're going to go home and self-isolate for 14 days, and then you make the threat that they tell you to make, where it's a, a monetary penalty of up to a million dollars for three years in prison for violating the quarantine. That'll never happen, ever, ever.

But that's the threat they wanted us to make to people to sort of, uh, when you're given that threat as a border official, are you like, we got to tell them what? I never gave them the threat. I never gave them. And it just blows my mind that we're so used to following orders in this profession that we've forgotten how to question where these orders come from and what the authority is and what this means in the grand scheme of things. And I'm very fortunate looking back that I was asking questions from day one. What I feel are just very common sense questions. And I feel like a lot of it had to do

with maybe my experiences as a child. I mean, I grew up with a father who lived in Manhattan, New York, so I understand what it's like to have family across the border. So I had some questions about how that works. And I also lived in a group home as a youth. So I experienced what it was like to to be friends with children who feel invisible, even with all the resources that are available, whether it's libraries or community centers or, you know, basketball games with friends or just street hockey on the street,

whatever it is. I mean, these group home kids that feel invisible, they count on these community activities and resources for their overall well-being in their development because they don't have anything else. The home life, it's not nurturing,

it's terrible, it's sterile, it's staff that work there. awful environment under the best of time. So when the government first announced this response where it was going to walk down everything and close everything, my mind also just went to those kids. Like, well, what about what about the street kids that run away from these places? Now they're going to be more runaways than ever, ever, because I know how I would feel in that environment. What are they going to wear a mask 24-7? Like what are the rules like in a group home now to keep the

social workers safe? So my mind always just kind of went to these things. Well, what about these people and what about that? And if you've noticed, when you talk to someone who's brainwashed or sciop, you always get met with resistance and anger, especially in the beginning where it's like, you're selfish. This is to protect the vulnerable, the elders and grandma. And it's like, yeah, but these are also vulnerable. I'm talking about vulnerable children. To me, they're the most vulnerable people on planet Earth. Yeah, they don't have a voice. Yeah, they don't have a voice. They feel invisible already. And kind of some of the bombs I was dropping earlier about human trafficking and pedophilia, I mean, if you can't see the writing on the wall where this is headed,

I did a video where I broke down the CDC's shielding approach, and I basically explained how that all works and what that will all look like in reality as they implement it and sort of where we're at now as far as them actually going to implement that. And if you can't see that we're just conditioning children to get used to being isolated, separated, having no voice, and wearing a fucking mask on their face, this is all about separating children, removing them from their parents. It's just the grand scheme of things is just so horrifying to comprehend. Even myself, someone who understands how to see through illusions,

what type of real evil is out there in the world, even I have trouble comprehending the grand scheme of things here. And I hope I don't lose some of your audience when it comes to that. I'm trying to speak to the lowest common denominator as far as how awake people are to some of the crimes that are being committed in the world right now. But I really want people to understand. that the government of Canada at no point in time, did they ever implement a proper response to the COVID-19 pandemic

as they portrayed on the news? And if you look at who they picked to be essential versus non-essential, all of this is tracked, you're going to find that it's the diplomats. It's the politicians. If you earn above a certain income, if you're the type of person that has private jets, you go to Florida all the time,

you're exempt from everything, and they have been this entire time. So there have been people while you are told that you can't travel. You can't go see your dying father. And if you do, you're going to have to submit to a test before you leave your country, which you have a right to do, a God-given right, can't be taken away from you. You're going to have to let them jab something up your nose, prove to us that you don't have an invisible illness that we made up.

And then when you come back, you're going to also have to take another test before you come back, show us that it's negative. Then you're going to spend your own money to stay at a detention hotel, sorry, quarantine hotel for three nights. It's going to cost about $6,000. And if you refuse, we're going to write you another ticket for double the amount. And then we're going to have to see you in court a few years later. We're going to stress you out in the meantime.

And then the whole time you're a Canadian citizen, you have rights. You have a safe place to go, potentially a home to stay at, whatever. And meanwhile, these fucking people have been coming and going, coming and going, doing whatever they want this entire time. I think Canadians are going to be a little upset. I think they're going to be upset when they find out how the repatriation flight was handled, right? How they made this big show of promising everyone that it was done correctly when it wasn't. The officers weren't issued proper personal protective equipment.

There was no social distancing. There were no decontamination procedures. There was no self-isolating of anyone who was directly exposed. And when officers tried to voice their concerns, they were just laughed at and told to get the fuck back to work, basically. I think Canada is going to be upset when you look at the timeline and realize that all of a sudden COVID-19 was rampant in Canada. and it looks to me like you can pinpoint exactly where that happened if you believe their data and evidence and statistics. This is where their data, their evidence and statistics

might start to bite them in the ass. Because if the public, here's what I'm saying, and if they understand that this is all being tracked, everyone who's crossed the border since the pandemic, all of your information has been entered into a program that goes directly to the public health agency of Canada. Do we ask you what your name is? We get your phone number, we get your email,

we get your postal code, we get everything about where you're going to stay for your two-week self-isolation. We mark whether or not you're symptomatic, and it's tracked exactly when you entered Canada, and we also click whether or not we think you're going to be following, whether we think you're going to be following the thinking of promise that you make. How the hell would you know that?

Exactly. It's just basically based on attitude. It's based on officers going, I don't believe this person. So they check something that says, okay, I don't believe this person's story. And honestly, sometimes it's just we're bullshit detectors, okay? we go through training to build rapport with people, look for holes in their stories. So officers are very good at questioning people. It would it would astound you to know what you can give away without realizing that you're giving it away, if you know what I'm saying.

So people will say things like, we're coming up here for 15 days. And you're like, okay, where are you going to self-isolate? At this cottage. And you're like, oh, okay. And then where? Well, and then after we're going to go see our father in Brampton. And it's like, because you can't come up here for leisure, but if you're, you're clever and crafty like Americans are, okay?

If you're clever and crafty, you can say, well, if I have a Canadian citizen who's, say, and there's an essential reason to visit, like they're terminally ill or care for them or whatever, these people would just find a way to say an essential reason to come into Canada. They're like, all right, I have a Canadian citizen father. You've made rules that there's an exception for that. But you're telling me I have to self-isolate. Their whole intention was just to go to a cottage and party in Canada for two weeks. So they're telling us they're going to self-isolate at the cottage.

Honestly, good for them. Bravo. It works. But there are some officers that know it's bullshit. They're like, no, you're just coming up here to party at the cottage. If I check off, an OPP officer needs to check in on you and see if you're still there, there's a good chance they'll find you not there. You're going to be at the LCBO or you might be out partying or you might have friends over.

They might catch you violating the rules, right? So that's kind of how that works. But the reason why I wanted to talk about that program is because everything gets entered and whether or not someone's exempt from the rules to quarantine gets entered in that program. So there are real-time statistics and data where you can see if there's a public inquiry, that is data that can be analyzed. And right there, Canadian citizens will see proof of rules for thee, not for me. Rules for thee, not for me.

And some things that I saw firsthand with my own eyes, just an example, married couples separated for over a year. you see like the wife coming up begging it's been six months since i've seen my husband but i'm an american citizen and he's a canadian citizen and we've just lived like this for the last few years we're still trying to figure out where we're going to ultimately settle but my career's here his career's there we've always just used vacation time i spend a month with him he spends it once with me and we that's how we do it like this is how we this is how our marriage works and now we haven't seen each other for six months and you're still saying sorry can't come in and see your husband

been because the government of Canada decided that that's not an essential reason, that that doesn't matter. So then you turn this person around, you see them cry and break down in front of you, officers at this point, I'm sorry to say, are desensitized and used to just following tyrannical orders without questioning anything. So they don't care. They don't care that they're seeing the human breakdown in front of them because they're desensitized to it. They just want the person to put the fucking mask back on, sit down, and then they make fun of the person for trying to come across the border during a pandemic because officers are human beings and they allowed to be sci-opt as well. they allowed themselves to be sly up by the news as well, which I just find outrageous.

But anyways, and then you see the next car right behind that person. And it's just a bunch of foreign national diplomats on diplomatic status, big smiles on their face. They just went to New York to go do a bunch of stuff. And now they're coming back. No rules for them. No tests. No quarantine, no nothing. Just scan the passports.

See you later. So this is, you've said a lot. and a, like you got a lot on your mind, Patrick. Here's what I'm curious. So you're saying, if I put it to the simplest sense, COVID by the government of Canada was handled awfully. Not remotely decent, just awful. By their own standards.

You got to witness it firsthand. Yes. Could I ask this question from a guy who was on the front? Was there any possible way this couldn't have been handled awfully, meaning like why would you lock the border down when you're just going to allow whoever you want through anyways? Yes, they should have never even logged it down in the first place. If their response was to just be rules for the E, not for me, then no.

It should have never been locked down in the fucking first place. Because if you look at the exceptions that were made, it was essentially never closed. It was essentially never closed whatsoever. So what? They cut their traffic down from, I would love to know the stats. I would love to know the stats. What are there, what's the regular traffic like on any given year?

And let's compare it to the traffic during the border closures. That's a question that Canadian citizens should ask because I think you're going to find the stats are going to be outrageous. Outrageous. You're not going to see that much of a difference. So this whole time that the government could never get a handle on rising case numbers, okay, so they just kept punishing and punishing and punishing our own citizens and our own residents, our own economy, our own hospitals, canceling our own surgeries. Like, just think of

the implications of people's lives that the provincial governments, their responses did. If you really think about the implications, and then you realize that if you believe, if, and I'm speaking to people on both sides of the fence here, if you believe in the rising case numbers, and you believe that all of these restrictions should have worked, the masking, the distancing, picking businesses that are essential and non-essential, even though there's, once again, no legal definition in that, if you believed it should have worked and you just can't understand why it didn't, why the rising case numbers kept climbing,

and the news is saying, oh, it's the unvaccinated. No, no, I'm going to turn around and say to them, no, it's the fact that the border is never fucking closed, ever, that while you were hiding in your house, told to sacrifice your life to stop living for the preservation of others, all you're doing is you're sacrificing your life so that these fucking politicians can continue to live theirs in, in luxury, an insane luxury. It's out fucking

rages. Well, I've had multiple doctors on here now, and once again, I don't expect everyone to agree with everything that has ever said on this thing. But one of the things I think that is interesting is the possibility, maybe the very, very strong possibility that there are alternative measures to combating COVID-19 from not just a vaccine that are being suppressed. If you say certain keywords, you are gone off social media. You're labeled just about everything under the sun.

And all you got to do is take a step back and go, that's kind of odd. Yeah. When you're trying to, you know, I sit here. I'm a young guy. I don't think I got anything to worry about from COVID-19. That's just my personal belief. It doesn't mean you can't contract it. It just means, honestly, you look at the stats.

We want to talk about stats. Like, you look at the stats on COVID-19 here in Alberta specifically. For people of my age demographic, it's not non-existent, but pretty much non-existent, right? So all of us just take a step back. You start to hear more and more doctors being censored. I've had one on here who was like visibly nervous to talk about anything, you know, just from the censorship and everything else. And so to find people like yourself that are willing to talk about things is, A, enjoyable.

But at the same token, I go like, okay, so they never shut the border. What they're telling us is a lie. They're imposing certain things on a group of the population, which is the majority of us, and then a certain percentage get to do whatever the hell they want, which I don't know where that goes. My question, I guess, I always come back to. And I think, you know, like a lot of people ask this. So what do we do? Like what do we do, Patrick?

Like, what do you want to see? Right now. You're on shows everywhere now. You're starting to, you're very, you're very boisterous in like being, getting out there, saying this thing, very strong language of like, this is what's going on. You need to wake up. And I had Dr. Roger Hodgkinson on. and he's another guy that is very similar as a doctor, an older man, he's 77. And he was the same way when he spoke to me.

Like, you need to wake up. You need to wake up. And it was like a slap in the face because I think most of us, I'm just trying to work our job, protect our family, food, roof over the head, right? Go to the lake on the weekend if you can. I don't know. Like, just have a life and just don't interfere with me too much. And as it extends out longer, and we are starting to ramp up maybe for another set of

lockdowns and everything else here in the fall. Maybe I'm wrong. Right. You go, okay, so how do we turn this around? Can we turn this? Right now, I'm trying to speak to the hearts of my fellow brothers and sisters in blue because I know why they signed up for the job. And it doesn't matter what law enforcement agency you work for in Canada. They have very specific core competencies that they advertise in their recruitment sections. And these are core competencies that they expect you to bring to the table before you're ever hired, before you even have your first interview. So they want some life experience, okay? They want people from all walks of life because at the end of the day, you're going to represent the community. The same goes for at the border because you're potentially

dealing with people who've never even seen the Western world, right? You could be getting someone off of their first flight ever. This is the first time they've left China or wherever they're coming from. Yeah. So they want people from all walks of life and they want people to have these core competencies. And those core competencies always include judgment. analytical thinking. There's incredible individual power in each and every officer that you see. Every police officer that you see has their own incredible individual authority. Okay. It's their own integrity. We trust our officers, whatever capacity they're in, to use these core competencies at all times to make real life decisions.

Now, what have I been seeing this entire fucking year and a half from a distance? before I came out as an officer. I've been seeing officers all over the world and all over Canada, they're no longer allowed to use some of these core confidences. When it comes to these bylaws and mandates, all judgment goes out the window. Now, when I want people to understand

is how outrageous that is, because as an officer, you could catch someone driving a vehicle completely drunk out of their fucking mind. Okay? It's a pretty outrageous crime has to do with public, safety. Drunk drivers kill thousands upon thousands upon thousands of people. Every year,

it's a pretty horrifying statistic. But as that police officer, you still have your own discretion in that moment on how you're going to handle it. Right. Is this someone who's maybe made a bad mistake where they may be about to be date raped on a date? And this woman just escapes the house and now she's driving drunk. And you start to recognize, you know what, arresting this woman and charging her might not be the right response in this circumstance. I'm going to handle this differently. Right? Just one example, okay?

It's not black and white when it comes to something like drunk driving. They have discretion. And I know stories, countless stories from other officers where they've let people off the hook without using the discretion. It's just out of pure laziness. It's like, ah, fuck.

Like, there's two hours left in my shift. This is going to take at least four hours to deal with. Like, buddy, where do you live? You live just around the corner? All right, fuck. I'm going to follow you and make sure you get there. Right. So they use discretion all the time when it comes to criminal code matters, indictable offenses.

And here we are with mandates and bylaws, not allowed to use any discretion. Black and white, they're conditioning our law enforcement officers nationwide to blindly follow tyrannical orders. But guess what? Testifying in court and using the defense, I was just following orders. Doesn't work. It's a crime. It's a crime to follow an unlawful order. So I'm trying to speak to the hearts of police, military, and border officers because they know.

It doesn't matter if you enter the job and you are the most passionate person on the planet, you can be the highest performing officer. You're never working for the government because the government just proves time and time again that they don't care about you. Remember in the beginning when I was talking about fighting for the resources, the training, the tools? I had an expired bulletproof vest for two years before they finally sent me a new one. You think I wasn't sounding the alarm about it for the entire two years? Where's my fucking vest? Where's my fucking best? Where's my fucking best? And then when it finally arrived,

it came in the middle of the pandemic. It was for a female and it had dandruff on it during a pandemic. It wasn't even cleaned, right? So the employer doesn't care about its officers. So step one, officers, you ever find yourself testifying in court and you followed unlawful orders that led to harm. The defense I was just following unlawful orders, the employer is going to turn around and say to you, you had discretion. You had discretion. Yes, those were the orders, but you have your individual discretion in each circumstance. So they'll throw them under the bus, which is what they do to officers time and time again. I've seen it during this pandemic. Minister Bill Blair made a public statement because one of those rich people rules for thee, not for me, got caught, not having

to quarantine, going back and forth, back and forth. So Bill Blair went on the news and basically blamed an officer on the front line and that officer got disciplined at the Ottawa airport for following orders. It's fucking outrageous. But anyways, so I want to speak to their hearts and remind them that right now they're turning their backs on the people they genuinely work for. Police officers, border officers, correctional officers, wherever you work, you wear your hearts on your sleeves and you do the job for the people. It's not for your superintendent. It's not for your chief, it's not for the employer. You do the job despite their bullshit. You do it anyways, despite the fact that they don't give us enough training under the best of times. Our use of force

recertifications are every single three years. By the time you go to recertify, if you don't take it upon yourself to practice on your own time, you've almost forgotten everything how to do it properly. It's fucking disgraceful. Let alone with the pandemic, they just cancel training because it's no longer necessary. It's just too dangerous. You might breathe on. on someone or something. Outrageous. Anyways. So I want officers to remember that right now, you're going to turn your backs on your community because you feel safe. You feel needed. You feel like your salary is never going to go anywhere. You're thinking about your pension. You're thinking about basically kind of what you said to me earlier. You just want to bury your head in the sand,

hope it all goes away. You just tell yourself it's going to go away over time. But my message to the officers is you're not going to be necessary when this is over. Just like the government is expecting them to turn their backs on the community. The same government's going to turn their backs on them. Their pension is not safe. If you look at how the federal government pension works, they can take it at any point in time when the national debt gets too high. What's that looking like right now?

Yeah, it's not looking bad at all, Patrick, at all. No? No, not even bad. No, no, no. They just print more money. Just print some more money. So they're not really seeing the writing on the wall yet that their pension is not safe. it's not going to be there by 2030.

It won't. Their salaries are not going to be so desirable anymore because they're going to be fucking worthless due to inflation. And not to mention, if you work in the Canada Border Services Agency, they've been bragging for years about this modernization approach. They've already been developing robots to take over and do the job. And you see examples of this in Pearson Airport and in certain airports across Canada,

some select airports where they put these kiosks that act as an officer. It's a fucking machine. It's awful. It's like a child designed it. It's truly pathetic. It's like Nintendo technology, in my opinion, because the government can't fucking do anything right.

They're dysfunctional. But anyways, it's these machines. You put your passport in and you declare, you know, whether or not you're bringing back a gun. You just answer the questions. It prints off a slip. And then you show it to an officer and they just look at it and mark whether or not it was complete.

It's a farce. So they've been advertising. the modernization approach of the border, which is all designed to cut jobs rapidly, rapidly. And anyone with half a brain who's been paying attention to this modernization approach, which they really only advertise in internal emails, knows it's about taking away frontline officers' positions. Because the corrupt politicians at the top, the ones who are earning bonuses every year,

imagine that federal public servant collecting fucking bonuses every year, Just outrageous. The ones who are bezzling money, mismanaging funds, collecting bonuses, they're the ones that are deciding that they're essential until the end of time, not the frontline officers. So I want officers to remember that because there will come in time very, very, very soon where they're going to be asked to enforce more tyrannical orders, such as curfews and lockdowns. And I'm hoping that this time there are enough officers that have woken up to this fucking bullshit snapped out of their trance and they're actually going to say no this time. Not through their union, but through real life action, as in practice. As in

when I'm inside Huff Gym and Mississauga and the mayor has said on the news that they're going to shut it down and they dispatch Peel Regional Police and bylaw to go shut it down. I was standing outside that gym when that happened. I stood there and I talked to the reporters and I talked to the police and I talked to the bylaw. I saw how outrageous it was. I saw how they painted it on the news. I saw it was a fucking disgrace. And every single officer, you know what they said to me? Look, man, we don't want to be here. We don't want, we know this bullshit. We don't want to be here.

But guess what, guys? You were fucking there. You still showed up. You still used your guns and your uniform to act as political henchmen to terrify a mother of five who was doing absolutely nothing wrong. Now, a few weeks later, when she did allow the inspection on her own terms as a free Canadian citizen, she passed the inspection and was allowed to operate lawfully. Did they make an announcement to clear Teresa's name? Did they make an announcement to clear Huff's gym's name?

No, they vilified this citizen, this beautiful, wonderful human being that if you ever meet her, you're going to see this is one of the most genuine human beings on planet Earth. A woman who dedicates her life to bettering her community runs a gym that has a day camp for children for free all summer long. This is the type of person that our politicians are trying to brainwash the public into believing they are evil and want to cause harm in the community. And then they send police basically for these fucking photo ops to make it look like to the public. they're shutting these businesses down. That business never shut down. I continued to work there whenever I pleased. And then at the end of the day,

they were never fined, never punished. The cops didn't want to be there. But this time, this time, I'm hoping the cops decide not to fucking go. Because it's going to happen again, guys. It's going to extend more than just to the cops. It's going to extend absolutely to everyone.

But right now, when I look at the news and I see what's happening in Australia and Berlin, I see the sense of urgency because it's going to be my brothers and sisters in blue that have already been conditioned to follow tyrannical orders, they're going to be the ones in the streets dressed like fucking military, beating the shit out of women and children and anyone who resists, and I refuse to let that happen. I refuse. I'm hoping that when they announce a fucking curfew, that it won't just be me standing in the streets refusing to go inside. I'm hoping that by the time that happens, that my voice will have been heard enough, that may be enough officers, maybe I've spoken to their hearts.

I think I have been. I'm bombarded with emails and messages and it's just insane the response that I'm getting within the law enforcement community because it's also at a time where the employer has proven and shown just how much they don't give a fuck by mandating the jab, regardless of medical exemptions and this and that, whatever, trying to coerce all their employees. So I'm also taking advantage of that moment where there's a bit of a fire that sparked, a little bit of anger, a little bit of resistance right now where people are like, hey, how the fuck do we say no? trying to take advantage of that and fan it and blow that fire within the ranks because I've seen these fires get sparked throughout the year before I was publicly speaking

my mind and using my voice, which I now realize how powerful that can be if we all just decide to use our fucking voice. All these little fires that I saw get sparks, like when those politicians got busted publicly going to Florida and Dominican and Rebel News was like waiting for these fuckers like at the airport. and oh my God, I thought that was it. I'm like, this is the fire that's going to piss off Canadians. They're going to see the borders were never closed.

And then they just go, oh, my God, rising case numbers, they force a few of their experts to resign. They replace them with more experts. And then the public forgets. And then the tyranny continues. The unlawful orders continues. And I just, it can't happen because this next lockdown is going to be very, very bad. It's going to be one step further, a hotter temperature on the pot they're boiling.

say when it comes to the law enforcement response. And things are happening faster than I even imagine they would happen. So I had a plan to come out publicly as a law enforcement officer. And it was a well- orchestrated plan. And I wasn't intending to do this until late October. But things started to happen faster. So here I am now kind of. Well, I applaud you for coming out and talking, right? I mean, you know by now, if it was Sean Newman police officer, people would look at me a certain way, right? When people hear you. are you talking if they don't listen to the entire thing, they're going to go, who is this whack job?

Yeah. Right? But then they go, oh, wow, how can you refute that? Right. Like, it's the same with having doctors come out and speak openly, just like about what they're seeing. And for too long, for over a year, everybody, not everybody, lots of people know there's something funny going on, right?

Weird. Yeah. What bird is? They can't put their finger on. And here we sit. I like how you say you weren't going to come out until October, but like things just keep ramping up. I'm a part of a group in town for the kids' sake. We had a lawyer.

We've, we need to vote once every three weeks, rent community halls and have expert people coming in and talk. And so last night was a lawyer in town talking about constitution and things like that. And if I rewind the clock to like May before everything was wide open here in Alberta and Saskatchew, Saskatchewan, I just thought, oh, geez, like, things are going to calm down over the summer. We're going to stroll in the fall and maybe I'm a doomsday or maybe they're going to lock us down. Maybe they're not. Like, things will have calmed down by then. That's complete opposite.

Like, I can't believe how fast things are constantly moving and how quickly things are being pushed. And, you know, the latest one is the mandatory vaccines, right? You saw, like, I keep saying this. And I don't know if nobody else watched or nobody else cares or nobody else thinks it means anything. But Biden in his press conference says we're empowering all businesses to force their employees to get vaccinated. It's like, yes. Okay, that's an interesting thing for a president to say. And then Justin. And then Justin Trudeau comes out and says, if I'm voted back in, there will be consequences, consequences for people who are unvaccinated. And you're like, when on earth do we have

politicians saying shit like that? Like that is wild. And how isn't that more of like, this is This is insanity right now. Yes. Yes. And what I'm trying to get across as well, because I've also, my time at headquarters, I got to know the upper brass.

On a face-to-face, hey, what's up? How was your weekend type of basis? Okay? Because I like to chat with people. I like to build a rapport. And I started to learn over time that, yeah, this is really an old fucking boys club here.

Okay? Just a lot of people, they've been in the job for a long time. There's no real oversight on what they're doing with the money, what they're doing with the budget. It's all internal and they all know each other. But at the end of the day, these people are wearing the uniform and the badge,

and there is a code of conduct, specifically in the Canada Border Services Agency, and it talks about their integrity, transparency with the public and upholding the charter at all times. I have personal experience with the president of the Canada Border Services Agency because during our pandemic response, I was asked to be the ambassador

for the Lansdown Port of Air. to babysit the president all fucking day during his tour. I spent six hours with him, okay? So answering his questions about the protocols and some of the things that we had put into place like mandatory shaving and wearing the N95 fully fit tested, okay? So for his safety, he's the top dog. We're going to tour the entire port where it's not closed. Truckers are being pulled in for search.

There are immigration exams happening. Officers are everywhere. He's going to be exposed to the public, so we got to protect him. So I stood there while he got fit tested by the certified N95 fit tester. He wore it for the picture or the little video that we made. And then he didn't wear it once throughout the entire tour. And this is when I was still on the fence about what was happening. Like how serious is this?

How safe do we need to be? There I am like a moron. And he's not wearing one. And then at one point I did say to him, I go, Mr. Osowski, Mr. President, you forgot your mask. And he looked at it and he went, this guy has meetings one-on-one, Justin Trudeau all the time. He has meetings one-on-one with Minister Bill Blair all the time.

If he's genuinely not fucking terrified, if he's willing to just violate his own protocols right in front of me and not even hide the facts that, I mean, trained observer, trained to observe human behavior, trained to understand the language that you're saying without the mouths, without the sounds coming out of your mouth. I mean, pretty big indicator right there that he wasn't fearful. So if you're not fearful and you're not really understanding these protocols that put into place, wouldn't you be asking the president a few questions, right? Or sorry, the prime minister, just a couple. Why are we still doing this? Is this necessary? Do we need to still be buying knockoff N95 masks from China to supply our employees? That's right, everybody. In Brockville,

there's a 3M innovation plant just around the corner from where I live, but do you think they're buying the N95 masks from Brockville, from 3M, from within Canada? No, it comes from some fucking company called the Flying Bear, JJ, company, limited, limited, LTD, and there's a bunch of Asian writing all over the package. And these masks, you did. Jesus, the quality. I mean, let alone just, where is it coming from? Where's the money going? Why are they buying supplies from China when we make them domestically here in Canada? That's a whole, that rate there. That's a whole other, like, listen, like, we've gone down, I had multiple guests come on and we've talked about, you know, like, when you have a giant country like Canada that is big, diverse, full of natural resources,

great people, innovation, like the list goes on. And on top of it, I just learned last episode from Peter McCullough, Dr. Peter McCullough, talking about how there's even been different test done here on early treatment in Canada where they've shown like, if you can do these things, you can actually save lives. Nobody knows about it. I'm like, why wouldn't we be pushing up the best of Canada and making our country self-sufficient and everything else. So this doesn't surprise me one bit. Like to me, this is just this stacks on the list of more things that we're not doing properly.

Or I don't even know if properly is the right word, honestly, Patrick. I guess I just come back to your saying the story, you're seeing the top guys and they're not wearing masks. And you're going, oh, like this isn't as bad as it is or they're not worried about it. It was like, it was both. It was like, because these guys are all high risk. If you look at their ages, you look at their body fat, it's like, that's a high risk person. They should be scared.

But no, they didn't shave. They weren't wearing their masks. They didn't dawn and do off properly. They didn't do all the procedures that we were taught. It was a genuine like zero fear, zero consideration, nothing. This is all smoke and mirrors. And even in the beginning, when they first had us wearing masks, we were told. it's because the public expects it now.

The public expects it. I did a road trip last summer. I did a road trip out to Vancouver, Vancouver Island actually too. And I went and sat with Jim Patterson. And I don't know if that name rings a bell, but very successful, man. Once upon a time, he was, I don't know, top five richest in all of Canada, right?

Like you go west from here, every billboard is a Patterson billboard. Kind of gives you an idea. He owns Ripley's, believe it or not. You know what I'm? Oh, okay. Like, very successful guy. He's in his 90s. And I went up there in the middle of the start of the pandemic.

I don't even know what part that is, you know, when we're talking June last year. I'm expecting I have to be 50 feet from all these people, right? Here's like one of the most well-connected guys. He's got Ronald Reagan's shells on his wall from his funeral, right? It has handwritten notes from Oprah and all these different people. I'm like, this guy is well-connected. And as you say, he's in a group that should be highly susceptible,

should be pretty careful. He's an older guy, not a mask, not a social distance worry, in the entire office. And I'm like, you know, if there's a guy who knows, I feel like it's this guy. Not this guy. This guy doesn't know jack shit. I'm just a guy who falling around the podcast, seeing where it goes. and here I am sitting in Vancouver downtown, overlooking the harbor in this gorgeous office and nothing.

And so I feel like it's taken time because what are we at now? We're closing in on, we're going to be closing in on two years here soon enough. Yeah, I think we're about three weeks in, right, to flattening the curve, something like that. Something like that, right? Like, that's hilarious.

But the crazy thing is, is people, you know, they just assume it's going back to normal. And the thing is, is like, no, listen, I'll say this over and over and over and over again. I know I sound like a doomsdayer. I know that bringing on yourself is going to sound doomsday-ish. And I really hope in October, nothing happens. And my friends can come buy me a beer and be like, you're wrong. I'm like, yes, I love that. And I'm going to pay for the route. How's that? The problem is, is I don't feel that's what's coming. And no, it's not. Like, it's making me more and more nervous as we go along here,

especially when you got Trudeau saying if I get elected again, people aren't vaccinated. There will be consequences. Like, what are consequences? Where does that go? And that's our leader. That's our fearless leader. I know. I know.

And I want to know how the public feel about things like that because so many people at this point are just conditioned to kind of nod their heads and go, okay. And they seem to agree with these restrictions. A lot of people out there seem to want it. So I want to know, are they cranking up the temperature too fast for Canadians at this point is it starting to get a little too real. I don't think we're there yet, but I think they've cranked up the temperature a little too fast for law enforcement. Because unlike other professions, you have nurses speaking out, right? And thank God, because people like Kristen Nagel, who first came out to speak against this stuff, these people really, they kind of reinforce

the questions that I was asking and the things that I were seeing that were making sense. So thank God that we had these wonderful voices just come out of nowhere and speak common sense from, their experiences in the front line in their various professions. So I was able to kind of learn, right? But unlike officers, look at the type of personality that the nursing field is going to attract. It's going to attract a very giving type of person, someone who just wants to help you. And if they're told, look, you're going to have to take this jab in order to keep doing it, they're just kind of thinking selflessly, like, I'm not worried about it.

I have a passion. A lot of them are just going to blindly believe it because they're so passionate about what they're doing. And they trust medicine. They're kind of ingrat. They're in that field. They're in that field. Absolutely.

Now, officers don't trust our training. We know that our training is flawed. We know that a lot of it is political. We know that they don't really care about us saving our lives in a life or death situation on the job. We know that they don't genuinely care about public safety. These are things that officers start to intuitively know over time.

And sometimes that manifests in, and it looks like, hey, you see an officer 20 years into his career, doesn't keep up with his uniform, maybe looks like a slob, maybe not the nicest person to talk to, but maybe that officer had this incredible career

where they wore their heart on their sleeve, maybe they did everything they could for the community, and maybe the job broke them over time, and maybe they didn't get the resources and support that they need from the upper brass, they don't care. And it's unfortunate, but you see it. So I think the law enforcement community is just a little bit different where they already kind of questioned some things. They already understand a little bit more about the evil in the world that's out there, the sick fucks

that are out there and how these people can climb their way to the top. And they're A-type loud personalities. Loud. The arguments that happen at work are outrageous. If people disagree, it's like, holy shit, fucking clear the air here, like two A-type personalities going at it. It attracts, a certain type of person, certain type of personality. And I think when these people start to wake up, we're finally going to see some fucking lions in uniform, maybe making a difference. Maybe. This is a huge hail Mary that I'm throwing. I really am. I hope officers can see the writing on the, on the wall here. I'll be speaking to a large crowd at Niagara Falls on Friday, August 27th. And I know it's going to be a large crowd because Chris Sky is there. So where Chris Sky goes,

there tends to be a ton of people. But also, that's where I started my career. I'm very well known and very well respected throughout that region, throughout the Canada Border Services Agency, where we have about 600 officers stationed just in that one region alone, and the Niagara Regional Police Service, where they also have about 600 armed officers in that one area alone. I worked with a lot of these people. They don't see me as just the crazy shirtless guy

who's got a lot of energy and a lot of information to get out. They remember who I was as an officer. They saw me on the job. job from day one as a baby deer. What are we doing here? And they saw my progression. You know, they saw how dedicated I am to the agency's protection mandate. And I really hope that while I'm there, I'll be able to speak to those officers, because that's a lot. That's a huge nucleus. We're looking at about 1,200 officers. If I can speak to the hearts of even a fraction of that, just a fraction within those two services, that could spread a bit of a wildfire of resistance.

Maybe when these tyrannical orders come down the pipe from someone who's clearly tyrannical, like Justin Trudeau, maybe they'll actually just say no, take a fucking stance. And I really hope that's what's going to happen. I really, really do. Well, we're going to find out regardless here come this fall, I would say, on what people are willing to do, lose, et cetera, because, I mean, the fact, the president and the prime minister both had press conferences. and I mean, just Trudeau still got to win an election, right?

But assuming he does, and you got Biden down south saying the same thing, man, this ain't getting, like it's just going away. Like this is getting weirder and weirder as we go along. And some days, you know, I think I said this with Peter McCullough too. Some days I go like, man, maybe I'm too far down the rabbit hole, you know, like maybe. And I don't want to be down no rabbit hole. I just want to be the fun loving guy with the family and come over and go for some drinks and have a good time. But the problem is the longer this goes on, the longer we allow this to go on, it ain't getting better.

They ain't going, oh, you guys were good. Here, here, you don't have to wear masks anymore. Or we don't have to worry about lockdowns every fall anymore. It's like, no, that isn't the way this is going to work. The way this is going to work is people stand united and say no more. Like, this cannot continue. you want. We have to be better than this. We have to speak up and act like human beings and go, no more. And it's one of the things that drew me to you, Patrick, is when I got showing your videos,

I was like, well, here's a guy who's speaking his mind, wearing the badge. And to me, I'm like, those two things really resonate with people, right? Because whether it's doctors, nurses, even professors, and now police officers, those carry a weight in our society. as individuals who people look at and go, they can teach me something. And you're teaching me everybody right now, right? Yeah, because it's a world you're not exposed to. That's right. How can I possibly know about that?

Yeah. Now, can I ask about before we started? Because you ran me on about a minute and a half of you still have the badge and everything. And you mention a gun to the head. Like, can we go into that for two minutes? Absolutely. You caught me so off guard that I, and my listeners don't know anything. That, they will not have heard that.

So I'm going to take my third off to talk about this because it stresses me out, okay? So you're just going to see me emanating. Okay. And I apologize for bringing it back on you if you don't love talking about it. But if I don't ask, I'm going to go home today and go like, what was that about? So. Yeah. So basically, we all know there's a huge problem in law enforcement and military.

High, high, high suicide rate. Very high suicide rate. So over time, there have been practices and protocols put in place, whether you're in the military or you're in the police service or you're in the CBSA, Canada Border Services Agency. You know, they talk about a lot about offering EAP services, things that are there to help you. And one of the things that we have is a group benefits disability plan.

So if you get injured on the job, let's see you get shot. You're off, you can't work. your officers are continuing to pay you through this group benefits disability plan. We all contribute to it throughout the year. And, you know, every workplace sort of has something like that. But there are different types of disability, right? There's the obvious, like you get in a car accident. Well, hey, and you're in there, you can't work.

Okay, disabled, you're on the plan. When it comes to mental stress leave, it is unbelievable the hoops that you have to jump through in order to, A, just even get approved. So let's say you're someone who's there's significant strain in your life. Like what I was going through, I was going through a separation at home on top of the shit show that was happening at work. I felt like I was in this pressure cooker where I just couldn't escape. And that pressure cooker was just building and building and building. And throughout the course of that year, it's just, my heart just kept breaking at what I knew was happening in society.

I knew that there were kids out there who were suffering who felt invisible. I knew it. And every now and then I'd hear something in the paper, you know, buried in the back, or I'd hear a story on a local person's Facebook or whatever about a teenager who wandered off in the woods and killed themselves. Or a teenager that went missing and they were found dead three days later, overdosed in a fucking forest. You know, so these things were breaking my heart and I was starting to feel like I was going crazy. Now, the officers that I worked with, the superintendents, everyone at work knew that I was starting to be very, very, very affected because I talked to everyone.

I was a likable guy. I got along with everyone, but all of a sudden, I'm getting uncharacteristically angry at all of my coworkers. Because every time I asked a question, like, why are we doing this when it clearly doesn't work

or why are we, you know, allow another lockdown? Why are we arguing over Halloween? Why are we arguing that Halloween shouldn't be allowed for children when adults get to trick or treat every fucking day at Tim Hortons? Why can't we let children do it the one time? I don't see the risk here.

So I felt like I was losing my mind, And then when we got to that last lockdown, like the last Christmas, that was my rock bottom, dude. I was having thoughts that I now am very open about because I do think it could save a life. If you ever find yourself fantasizing as your death being the light at the end of a tunnel, if you start to catch yourself using that as a coping mechanism, huge red flag. And I think there are a lot of people out there. Well, I know there are because of all the messages and emails I get now. A lot of people are coping like that.

especially during lockdowns. Maybe not right now and everyone's enjoying their summer and there's a little bit of hope, right? But that next lockdown, man, all of a sudden, the light at the end of the time of a lot of people, it's going to go dark very quick.

And if you start fantasizing, like, none of this matters because there's an end date that I have in my mind. I was genuinely looking forward to it. So I had plotted a few days to do it. Like I had kind of planned, and this is just kind of where my mind was at at the time. I just couldn't, I don't know,

I was a broken man. Let me just put it that way. Broken man. And finally on January 22nd, I separated from my ex-wife, so awful significant life stressor, right? And I kept trying to work through it all. So I was going to work. I'm now in an apartment by myself where I have time to think. I also had some other things going on in my life. I had a surgery that I was waiting on that kept getting canceled over and over and over to keep hospital beds empty, right? So I'm not alone in that. I mean, many Canadians experienced that and many people died because of that as well. But anyways, so I knew that I was having this breakdown. People at work were picking up on it.

And we have a gym in our facility that never closed, by the way. So while the public wasn't allowed to work out, we were. But hey, what do I know? Just an officer. So certain superintendents who could see that I was suffering, right? All of my coping mechanisms were taken away. I need human connections. So I'm just one of those people that was heavily affected.

It was very obvious. To hop in there for a second, we all, all of us need human connection. Yes, exactly. We all do, whether you realize it or not, whether you realize it or not. You're right. 100%. I was a miserable cuss for about a month and a half. And then I took this podcast from once a week to twice a week so I could talk to people

because I just needed to get it off my brain. Simple as that. Anyway, absolutely. No, I get it. man, and it helps. It really does. Having some sort of a purpose, especially in a lockdown or a method of communication, like what you're doing really, really helps. And I don't know about you, but I would assume by you being somebody who's controversial, who talks openly about what they've saw, is what you're allowing for people is there's so many people that feel like they're stuck on islands. Like I just,

nobody thinks like me. This isn't happening to other people. And then they hear it and they're like, that's happening to me right now. And the problem with it is, is it's so fragmented that it's not unified, right? How can you possibly speak out about what's going on? Because you don't have a billion dollars to spread this message everywhere. I certainly don't, right? And so we're all these fragmented little voices that get pulled off social media because we're too controversial, which is like, well, if we're controversial, then nobody will listen to us anyways. Oh, wait.

Everybody's listening because they can't find it anywhere else and they're all struggling and they're stuck. on these islands and don't realize other people are thinking like this. And when you're alone on an island, you go to dark places. And dark places is exactly what you're talking about. Exactly. So I was in a very, very dark place. And even after I finally, I mean, another thing that I forgot to include is in the summertime, I went through a category three medical examination, which is every five years or every three years, depending on your age or every two, you have to get recertified by an occupational doctor that works for the government. So I went and I had my category three medical examination with the agency approved doctor that they organize it.

It's on shift. Hey, you're going to your examination. Well, copy that. See you later. And I failed. I failed the examination for severe depression and anxiety related issues. But there's no, government is so dysfunctional that that red flag, even though I failed it, it never got delivered to my employer. So that entire time I was going to work with a gun. And my mental state was steadily declining, steadily declining. And hey, when you're in that state, you're not thinking about like, I mean, I was very honest with that doctor in that appointment. And I remember thinking, I'm fucked. My career is over.

I'm going to go to work tomorrow. And my gun's not going to be in my, in my dasco, which is where we store our things. I thought for sure, because that's what happens, man. People sometimes you get to work, you open up your dasco, your gun's gone. you to go, oh, fuck, what, what's going on? And that's usually when discipline comes in or whatever. So I thought that was going to happen. I knew that there was no way after saying what I said to that doctor that I was going to be allowed to keep my tools. Well, I showed up to work the next day, and it was there. So I thought, okay, sweet, sweet. I'm not in shit. Heared up, went to work.

And then the next day, kind of nervous to open it. Oh, and then the next day, kind of nervous to open my, oh, my gun's still there. Look at that. And then a couple weeks went by. And then a couple of couple months and then I forgot. I forgot that I even had that appointment. It wasn't even a red flag on my mind. And then in January, after the suicidal ideation was like out of control, out of control. Like it was looking forward to it on my drive to work, but then maybe I'd have a good day and then think I'm not doing it today. You know, like it was just just kind of how my mind was working. And finally, uh, I got an email from this doctor or someone in their department saying, can you forward this to your family doctor?

If you're going to continue working, he needs to give us some information on all of this. So at that moment, I thought, you know what? Seeing this summarized, like reading the results of my category three medical examination, how a professional saw me in that moment and how serious they took what I was saying, that snapped me a little bit out of my trance, okay, enough to go, okay, I need to send this to my doctor. So I sent it to my doctor and he picked up the phone and called me the next

day. Whose doctor ever fucking calls you out of the blue? But no, he was like, okay, we need to have a meeting and meet in person, told him everything that was going on. He flat out said, you can't go to work. But he still gave me a note and trusted me to give it to the employer. I saw that as the end of my career. And I thought, I don't want to not work. I don't want to be off on disability. I want to keep doing the job. I just, I wanted to get better and I wanted the world to wake the fuck up and I wanted the protocols to go away. But it was just getting worse than I was getting more depressed. So I went to work anyways. I had a good day and I thought, I'm good. I'm good. I don't, I'm, I'm fine. I'm better. Well, no. On my last shift, first week of February, I was not better. I had the worst day of my life.

I had the darkest moment of my life. And that was the closest I came to pulling the trigger. I would lock myself in a bathroom upstairs. I don't know how long I was in there. And eventually, after some deep thought, talking to myself in the mirror, I pulled the gun out, held it to my head. Got about, eh, it's a long trigger pull in our guns, okay? A long trigger pull. A long trigger pull. and it's designed that way, so you have a lot of time to think before you shoot somebody. But anyways, and then I thought better, stopped, panicked, told my superintendent, I need to go, and I left.

I went straight to my union. We're all tight-knit, right? So I called my union chief, and I said, what do I do? Like, how fuck do I? And she basically said, come over, spend the night here if you want, come hang out with me and my husband, and let's talk this through. So I did. They were just genuinely concerned as human beings.

like how are you what's going on with you so i kind of filled them in and they were honest they said yeah everyone's noticed uh there's something going on with you um and they said here how about we act as your representative between you and the chiefs for when it comes to just helping you get off on on some sick leave while you get your shit together and i was adamant i didn't want disability but i was out of sick leave like i i burned through a lot of that stuff having to stay home because i woke up with say sniffles or something and then i had to use my own sick leave to not go to work because it was illegal Just nonsense, right? So I had this doctor's note and the chief delivered it.

The chief steward, this is going to get a little confusing for your listeners. The chief union steward delivered it to the chief of operations at the port of entry. He looked at the letter and asked her. He said, well, what type of illness does he have? And she said, I'm not going to tell you that. And he said, well, because if it's mental, we're not going to approve the sick leave. Okay, so step one right there. Already a little bit of discrimination.

If it's mental illness, you don't get approved. But if it's a car accident or something else, you get approved. Okay. Coincidentally, I had a surgery for the first week of March lined up. So at this point, I'm not getting paid. It's been about a month. I haven't been paid. I know I have a surgery to remove a growth that's been growing in my stomach for however long,

super nervous about the surgery. When they found out that I had a surgery just through word of mouth, you know, people just say, how are you? I'm recovering from surgery right now. That day, the sick leave got approved, okay? So, hey, whatever. Now I'm approved. Now it's all good.

Now I can recover from the surgery. And my plan was to try and trick them into thinking that the surgery was the reason that I was off, not my mental health. Because when you're that low, you don't really realize how low you are. It's very hard to describe. You don't see it as abnormal until other people are like, those thoughts are abnormal. Or you read a report about you and you think, whoa, I can't believe. I believe I fought that way or I came back close to killing myself, you know.

And but anyways, long story short, my ex-wife had used public health orders at one point to deny me access to my children. And that was a bit of a breaking point for me as well. And so I ended up, if you see anything on my Instagram, one of the first things I did was I decided to prove to everyone that you don't have to listen to these tyrannical. orders whatsoever. So everyone was told, hey, you have to wear a mask to fly. The provinces are closed. Well, I flew all across Canada without a mask, and then I drove across the country and I drove through provincial checkpoints, untouched, unfettered, no mask, you know, just to show that you can do it,

hoping that I could wait Canadians up a little bit and it didn't work. But that whole time I was off on sick leave, I wasn't checked in on once, right? Officers are seeing my social media. They're kind of making fun of me at work now and everything that they see going on. I kind of became the laughing stock at the workplace. And finally, after a couple of months, I get a phone call from my chief saying what's going on with you. And I told him everything, going through a divorce, which he already knew, you know, severely depressed, suicidal ideation, the whole nine.

I was just very honest and said, and on top of that, I said, you know, and to be honest, don't you think that what's happening is very similar to the Holocaust. Don't you think that this is kind of like how they were able to convince people that just following orders is okay, just turning your backs is okay, right? It was a slow pot of boiling water and I had this conversation with him and you know what? He didn't disagree. He was very political in his responses, but he didn't disagree. But anyways, he put forward the package for me to be approved on disability.

He convinced me. He said, look, the only option. for you right now, given what you've been doing on social media, given like your thoughts, this and that. He's like, you need money, man. You're going to fucking, you can't have financial stress. So I'm going to approve your disability. I'll submit whatever you need, but you need your doctor to do his part and you need to fill out some forms. He submitted his forms. My doctor submitted his report. I didn't submit my report because I didn't care. Long story short, I got a phone call from a caseworker while I was out at a rally in Colonna with Chris Sky. So tons

the noise in the background. And the caseworker said, look, your case is approved. There's money waiting for you. We just need you to sign a form. So I thought, okay, I'll sign the form and go off on disability. So I'll be off on disability this whole time. Now, do you think the government of Canada or the Canada Border Services Agency offers any resources, any type of guidance or any type of check-in when you're just off on disability? They don't. I took the onus on myself to set up own help. So I took the onus on myself to hire a psychologist, hire an additional psychotherapist. I paid for a psychiatric evaluation at the Royal Ottawa myself privately. You know, I did all of these things to set up safety nets to get a therapy plan because I genuinely wanted to get better and

get back to work. But if you're not the type of person who genuinely is at that point where you want to get better and you want to get back to work, well, if you're just getting a paycheck that's very close to your regular salary amount and you're just forgotten about and believe me, first you're gossiped about and then you're forgotten about. And there's no systems in place to check in, no resources available to you. This is why you see these officers, they go off on PTSD stress leave, they go off on whatever, and they never come back. They end up drug addicted, alcoholics for the rest of their life if they don't take the onus upon themselves. And you know what? You see a lot of suicides on people who are off on disability for mental stress leave. So it's a very big problem in law

enforcement, but especially now. Because not only are you seeing the increase in suicides and drug overdoses and whatever nationwide, but within every single law enforcement agency right now in the country, there is an unprecedented number of officers who are just like me, who are off on stress leave for one way or another. And I'm genuinely terrified for what the statistics are going to say after another lockdown. And it's one thing that doesn't get pumped out on. We've talked about this a lot. You know, I always bring back to the kids.

It's always like, I mean, damn, they do like 10, 15 minutes on new COVID cases, what's happening, whether it's vaccinated, unvaccinated, what they were doing to get infected, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, but they never, they never talk about the other things that are going on because of everything. And that's the wild part of it. You know, like, so the new spikes coming, right? The delta variance coming. And you can imagine what that's going to be like all long year knowing it's coming. And with kids going back to school and everything else, the amount of fear that's going to be pushed on that. And I don't know, I sit and I listen to you and I'm like, hey, I, I, I, I,

I don't always say this, but like, feel like you're just in need of a big old hug, big fella, right? Like, you've been through fucking some shit, right? And then on top of it, instead of sitting around and not doing anything, you went on a mission to, you know, to prove that you don't need to abide by everything. Like, to drive across the country and go through all the check stops must have been eye-opening, I assume. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. It was eye-opening to see how blindly compliant to just. general public is for sure, but also just to show when they announced these things in the headlines, it's pure smoke and mirror. A lot of these things, they didn't set up any type of enforcement action or any type of method or system to control anything. They just said, all right, it's closed now. In a lot of these cases, all right, Vancouver's health zones now. And it was just people reading headlines and going, well, I guess I better cancel my trip. I guess I better cancel my plans and not challenging any of this, not even questioning it.

So I just took it upon myself to at least challenge, at least question, and at the very least investigate. And I saw firsthand when the mayor of Calgary goes on television, and he says, oh, it's thinly veiled white supremacist that all of these freedom rallies, thinly veiled white supremacist anti-government narrative. Well, I went and I investigated all of these rallies myself, and I can confidently tell Canadians, but the people that I met from these rallies are people from,

from all walks of life, from all over Canada, from various communities, various income levels, from various nations. And some of these people grew up in communist countries and they're here sounding the alarm. They're going, this is how it started. I lived through this. I was at a rally where a 93-year-old Holocaust survivor

was basically saying this is exactly what they did, step by step, one rule, one mandate at a time. And everyone just thinks, well, I'll just comply for now because eventually this will blow over. and then 10 to 12 years later, you're turning your back on the people you just loaded on a train. We, you know,

if you, if I went back six, seven months, I fought that argument about the Holocaust and Nazis. Yeah. I really fought it because I was like, to me that, that's too extreme.

And honestly, I think you turn off, I want people to come together on this. I want people to be able to talk about it and like, see it for what it is. But as we go along, I go, you're not far off. You know, like, so we had this lawyer in last night,

and one of the things he said is we got too many people who won't speak their mind. And I found that as a very interesting thought for a lawyer to see, or not just for anyone to say. Yeah. Because that is, that is the truth, right? Like, I don't love coming on here. And this started out as I'm going to bring on, you know,

the hockey, the big names of hockey and have some fun and hear some stories of the NHL and Ra Ron, I loved it. Listen, I had Don Cherry and Ra McClein and guys like that. They're super interesting, right? They got these stories that are like personas that are larger than life. And I shouldn't say Ron McLean too many times because out here West, they absolutely despise the guy, but you kind of get the idea. The longer this goes on, I go like, you know, we really got to start talking about it. And the, the, narrative isn't to talk about it's just to leave it alone and things are going to get better and things are going to carry on but the lawyer you know last night um made perfect sense to me you know like there's

too many of us that don't want to talk and certainly don't want to stir you know cause any commotion it's like man we got to start causing some commotion here otherwise i'm going to go into another lockdown and if that happens i don't know what comes right we just we're just going to continue to do this for the rest of time like and then what we'll tell our kids you know there was once upon a time where we didn't wear masks. Can you believe that? Yeah, exactly. We got to travel across Canada and nobody stopped us.

Can you believe that? It's like, yeah. Like we have the ability to do that right now. And so many of us are just paralyzed by fear. Or actually right now I find it interesting because right now everything is open out here. And people believe, I truly think a lot of people think it's going away.

Like it isn't coming back. Right? Or quietly they're like, well, we might have to lock down for a little bit. It won't be a big deal, though. It's like, did that sentence literally just come out of your mouth? Like, think about that. Yeah. Yeah. That's a wild thought. I know. Our reopening plan here in Ontario, it went step one, step two, step three. And it ended there. There was never a fully open ever, ever in their reopening plan. It's just a basically shutdown plan, a never-ending shutdown plan that just goes over and over and over.

So we're just getting ready for the inevitable shutdown in September as they're actually. advertising. You think that can be beat? I think it can be beat for sure in practice. It'll never be beat in theory. It'll never be beat online. And I don't think it's going to be beat by just waiting for some hero to come down from the sky and save us in a court of law. Yeah, I think that was what was interesting about the lawyer last night is him talking about like, how do you beat this? Court of law probably isn't the right way. It's getting involved in your communities and getting involved and getting out there and getting on school boards and getting on places of influence and really becoming active like become active by sitting around and doing that right in practice

in real life you just can't sit there and and wait for it to go away because every day that goes along and we do nothing they're just going to continue to take which is interesting well and I'll give an example I mean my daughter just started playing t-ball I love it she's six years old what a fun experience man but I really realized, you know what, it's not that hard for anyone to organize T-ball games for children. So you just reach out to your friends and, hey, all be the coach. Like, it's fun. Essentially what happens anyways, they're all six. All the parents are essentially coaching the kids with the coach, right?

You don't need, you don't need to wait for the community to do something for you. We are all part of the community. We all have the ability to organize, communicate with one another. And if you happen to find that tribe, hopefully by now, we've all, connected with people who are like-minded and we can do some shit on our own you know and one thing is encouraging business owners to stay open regardless of what the government tells you most business owners would at this point i think if they knew the community was going to actually have their back yeah rally behind him rally behind them rally behind the opposite which happens in some of these towns

where the community rallies behind the government and it's heartbreaking fucking heartbreaking to see. So in practice, this can be beat. Absolutely. Absolutely, it can be beat in practice, but in theory, I don't think it'll ever be beat. Well, I've kept you here for some time. I've really enjoyed this. It's been, it's been interesting to say the least. I'm a, I'm a guy who doesn't, I don't know, maybe I do, I'm a hockey guy. So the hockey players that fall along know me and I can get very passionate and everything else. But when I sit in this chair, I find it, really hard to grab the passion that you yourself have and other guests have had. And so it's uncomfortable for me.

And I like that because that means while other people listening are uncomfortable, and it's good to be uncomfortable. It forces you to think and go, man, there's an officer of the law speaking out about what's going on and to see where it took your life and how far down you had to go. you know, and the things you saw from our own government, your boss is everything else, is wild. And I don't have any answers. I certainly don't have any answers.

But I think it's, it behooves all of us to listen to things like this, challenge our thoughts, and take a look around and start to get involved in, while like you said, our communities, we're all part of the community. We all have the ability to get out there and be active and not let this continue on. with that being said, I really appreciate you making some time for me and sitting here and giving me the backstory of how you got into this and everything else. It was, there was a lot there. And I think there's some things when I re-listen to it, I'm going to be like, man, we could have talked about that for 20 minutes. And I feel, you know, but to try and keep it on a kind of the railway track, so to speak, so that we could follow along.

I just appreciate you sharing your story and some of the thoughts that came with it. Absolutely. My pleasure. And anytime. Anytime. Please, have me back anytime, especially if you realize that there were some questions that you wanted to dive down that you think your listeners might want to hear. So anytime, my brother. I tell you what, I don't understand the child trafficking, the human industry, but I think that's something that would shock me. And I think at some point, I would love to have you back on to talk about it. But we'll leave that for a different day. I will leave you with this, though. Normally I do a Crude Master Final Five. They do an end segment.

I'm just going to leave it with one. I've been shortened it up lately because my brain is almost like, man, that was some serious dialogue. So my last one I always ask, though, for new guests is if you could sit in my chair and interview one guy, who would you take? Who would you want to pick the brain up right now? Oh, at this point? Who would I want to pick the brain of publicly? Justin Trudeau. Justin Trudeau.

Give me a public debate with that motherfucker any day in front of all of Canada. I could do it half asleep. I could do it in the middle of the night. Seriously. While he stammeres and stutters and reads from his script, I will just stand there and speak truth and challenge. every one of his bullshit script narratives and blow the lid off this entire thing in front of all of Canada. So 100% publicly, Justin Trudeau, debate or in a boxing ring, whatever. Boxing ring, I would take. That'd be fun to watch you do.

Who do you think would win? My money is on you, good sir. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, thanks again for making time for me and all the best as you move here forward and you continue to talk. and I hope that gains some traction because when we see officers stand up for civil liberties and the rights of human beings, it's a very powerful act. And because you're law enforcement, right? And I think I commend you for what you're doing.

And I'm curious to see where it goes and I'll follow along for sure. But regardless, thanks for hopping on with me today. Right on, brother. Thank you for your support. Hey, folks. Thanks for joining us today. If you just stumbled on the show, please click subscribe. Then scroll to the bottom and rate and leave a review. I promise it helps.

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