Shaun Newman Podcast - Ep. 38 Brothers RoundTable #3

Episode Date: October 15, 2019

The brothers back together again talking MLB Playoffs, NHL, Oilers, Maple Leafs, Patty Marleau & predictions 

Welcome to the podcast. This is a bonus edition of the Brothers Roundtable. We got together over the weekend for Thanksgiving, so happy Thanksgiving, everyone. And the brothers and I sat down and did a roundtable. We talked a little bit about the Emmington Oilers. I'm not kidding. We talked a bunch about the Emmett Oilers. About the MLB playoffs, about the Toronto Maple Leafs, about Patty Marlowe,

and a few other things. Some predictions on where we think the season. going and who are going to be the big winners and a couple of the big losers. So without further ado. All right, welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. I'm joined by my three brothers yet again for the third time. We thought about leaving Dustin out in the cold because he keeps walk around with chest out because he's now been on the podcast the most, and I'm putting that in air quotes.

It has been the most, and without me here, it would suck. Wow. That's... This is Dustin. The truth. The truth hurts, boys. The truth hurts. Dust, have you met the bird man, though?

He is starter quality. He's starting to overshadow me. He's got to pissing me off. Hey, Harles? Hey? Now, for most people who have listened to the first one, they know exactly who we are. But in case, they're first timers,

let's go around the room with the baseball playoffs going on. I thought best MLB playoff memory. We'll start with Dust. We'll work our way around. say your name and then obviously your memory. Dustin Newman. My favorite baseball playoff memory. Well, the Blue Jays, I'll say that just out front

because our teacher back in Helmand were growing up, he loved the Blue Jays so much. We'd watch the games in class, which was awesome. Thanks, Mr. Bell. But outside of that, because I know there's obviously going to be lots of Blue Jays around the table,

I'll say for some reason, Oral Hersheiser sticks out in my brain as one of the first times ever watched the Major League Baseball playoffs. And he was unreal. He won that whole Dodgers championship back and whatever year it was, early 90s, late 80s or so. You know what, it was 1988 because he was part of my memory.

Are you kidding? Kidding me? That's the memory you wouldn't tell me? No, it's not Oral Hersager, though. In game one of that series, and I had to watch the clip this morning to remind me because when you said, what's your favorite baseball memory? Oh, by the way, Jason Newman,

face for radio. When you said, and so I looked it up because that's the first thing that came to mind was Kurt Gibson Dodgers, right? And I watched the clip. So as he's coming up to bat, the announcer says he didn't even come out when all the players came out before the game

to, you know, waved their hand and, you know, and then play the national anthem because his right knee was banged up and his left thigh. So he couldn't barely walk. And they're down by a run. Game one against the head. heavily favored days, Dennis Eric's Lee Hall of Fame,

were on the mound, guy on first, and they're hoping he can hit a base hit. And he literally followed off three or four. You can see the pain he's in, if you ever watch the clip. He gets it to, I think, three and two, and then actually jacks one. And then hobbles around the bases. And it's the only time, and think about this,

so when a guy hits a walk-off dinger, he goes around, and then when he gets the home plate, they all start jumping around. It's the only time I've ever seen if you watch the clip, he gets to home plate and they all hug him and there's no jumping. Like he is just, and that is my best memory. And it's funny that Dustin says Oral Herschizer, who I believe was the MVP for that finals against the A's.

He was unreal. He was unreal. He was a dorky-looking guy with glasses and a funny-looking guy. I mean, he was just dominant. Yeah. Like he was just unreal. That's the first time I remember watching the baseball playoffs. Isn't that weird?

I had no idea you were going to pick that one. You can tell him who the two oldest brothers are. Yeah. Yeah, the interesting thing for me, this is Harley calling or talking. Very bad. Yeah. So the interesting thing for me is we had two and four growing up, and so we never really watched a pile of regular season ball games, but when playoffs came, we tuned in for

almost every single one, especially during the Blue Jays against the Braves and the two back-to-back championships. I think that one was the Phillies, wasn't it? Didn't they play the Phillies? Yeah, because they had that Wild Man. Wild thing? Oh, yeah, that's right. I think it was 92 and 93, I want to guess.

And I can't remember. I was trying to find it right before the show here, but I want to say it was Dave Winfield that hit line drive just over the third base and ended up squorn. And I think it was actually like game five. I don't even think it was the game that they ended up winning the series on. But for me, I remember sitting there and there was so much tension because it was such,

and I'm pretty sure they were playing the Braves because the Braves pitching staff back then was unbelievable. Well, that was Glovin, Smolls, and Maddox. And they were unbelievable. And now that I'm thinking about it, the Braves also, I want to say, did a source. suicide squeeze. One of the first times I've ever seen that because they had, who was the fast guy for the Braves? And they tried bunting and tried to steal home at the same time. What is Nixon?

Nixon. And they actually got them out, but it was like that close. But those were some of my favorite first memories, first memories from baseball. And I guess, and the other thing that comes to mind for me, And it's more of a series, but I mean, if anybody ever watches 30 for 30, and Nate was the one that showed me, so I'm going to give Nate the props on this one. But the 30 for 30 when the Red Sox came back, down 3-0 to come back, four straight on the Yankees in 0-4 somewhere there.

Don't let us win one? Don't let us win one. And that was, I recommend that everybody watch that one. Well, if we're going to talk to Blue Jays, I thought someone else was going to bring us up. Maybe Sean will. Hey, I was going to say my favorite baseball memory being the youngest, I wasn't even watching. I was listening on Sirius XM radio

when Batista did the bat flip. But the commentator on the radio as I'm driving through John Lake, Alberta. Where's John Lake? Up by Onion Lake, out in the middle of the boonies. But I had Sirius satellite. I was driving around working

at the time the game's being played. Yes, I was that moron. And when he does the bat flip, the commentator on Sirius was superb. And I almost swerved it in a ditch. I was so happy. Okay, so no one's going to bring up Joe Carter's home run.

I didn't pick that one because I thought everybody else would. I think that's a moment in time for all Canadians. Right. Well, Sean was talking about his listening to radio on that one. That brings me back to working a terrible back in the day. And I was listening to the Oilers playoffs. They're playing Dallas in the first round, goes to Game 7 and Marchon scores in like double overtime.

I'm having trouble picking up the game on radio on 630 Chad in my truck. and so I back it up into the middle of the parking lot. The gas station's dead, so we're listening to it on there, and Curtis Joseph makes the save, the dives across and overtime to save it, and then Marchand, later streaks down the side and goes up and scores on Baintymoke. Anyhow, you said that, and that brought me to my memory.

That wasn't backhand shelf? That was short side, wasn't it? He was streaking down the far side. Hey, I listened on the radio. I didn't actually get to watch it. I was playing it in my brain. Anyhow, he scored on the radio. All right, well, what do you think of the MLB playoffs thus far?

And me and Jay were talking before we started. The Dodgers, or the Dodgers, the Houston Yankee series right now is unbelievable. Yeah, well, it reminds you what Don Cherry said about his boss in Montreal series back in the 70s. Almost feels like that's the final. And whoever wins, well, it looks like Washington's going to be there and there a piece of cake. Honestly, I will be interested to see how that goes because I think, think the nationals might have a chance. Team of destiny.

I like their, I like their hitting. They've got a couple, uh, ace starters in Scherzer, uh, Scherziger and, uh, Scherzerzerzer and, uh, Strausberg. Schrober, uh, who's talking like Don Cherry right now, right? Strasbourg. Strasberg, yeah. But they've got a couple good pitchers, right? You get one good game out of another pitcher, right?

Right now it seems like Strasbourg. pitching every third game for them right now or fourth games. Those two are pitching five games in the final, aren't they? Oh, got to think so. And I mean, it's almost like because they lost Bryce Harper that now they're doing better. Kind of the Taylor Hall thing for me, but anyways. Every time. Who do you, well, do you want to talk about Dodgers?

You want to bring up Dodgers? Well, you just love to see a team like that lose, right? It's easy to cheer against the Yankees, the Dodgers. It's easy to cheer against the Leafs, right? It's easy to cheer against some teams because they are constantly trying to buy everybody and do everything they can to win, right? And they're the center of their given sport. Yeah, center of the world.

You know, it's funny about the Yankees Astros. It's after game one, the Yankees stomped them 7-0. Everybody's all, oh, the series is over. The Yankees are going to walk all over them. I'm like, it's one game. It's really one game. And the Astros come out one game too. I'm hope for Houston.

Houston-Nat, Washington Final will be great. rate. That would be fantastic. Well, I mean, you're always, you're open for anybody that plays Yankees for me. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. Speaking of Stringberg, he's pitching. Stringberg.

The story is. Strawsbury, Carl? They're up 7-0 right now. They're about to be up three games to none. Speaking of their third pitcher, I believe, is Sanchez, who just went seven and a couple. They've been pitching one. Throwing no, no-hatter. I don't know.

I like the vibe of the team. You know, they got the baby shark, and then they're all got the colored glasses, and it just seems like they, I don't know. They were a fun team to watch. They were 12 games under 500 at one point this season. You know, and they're really fun to watch, and they're really fun to watch the Cardinals beat the Cardinals, but when they meet Houston in the finals, you think it's going to be Houston.

I just think Houston just has that clutch team. I mean, I just love the guys on that team. Korea last night. You're talking about a team right now that has scored six runs out of seven. We're watching this would be game three, all with two outs. You're talking about clutch? Yeah, no, I'm... Six runs?

Okay, so let's get to it then. Who do you think's winning? Nationals. Nationals. Donnell's the Washington. Well, I'm going with Houston. Best, they figured best pitching staff ever put it together. Dust?

Oh, I'm going nationals. Like I said, Ghosts of Expo's past. Fuck it. I'm going. Yankees. I'll be the bad boy. You know what? That doesn't surprise me, Sean. You want to be the bad boy? Bad boy takes St. Louis. Nobody's taking St. Louis.

Okay. Although, to say that, winning the MLB and the NHL in the same year, that would be pretty cool. Speaking of all the different leagues, or speaking of two different leagues, who has the best playoff format across the major sports, MLB, NHL, NBA, NFL? All different leagues.

different kinds there, right? And each part is different. Personally, I mean, it's hard not to enjoy the grind of an NHL playoffs. And like you just, you can see the ebbs and the flows throughout a series throughout the entire playoffs and guys are battling injury. And you just, you can see it, right? And it makes you want to cheer for them that much harder. in saying that. I don't have never played football, never played basketball. So for me, those two are out. I don't, you know, besides, you know,

the Raptors, besides the Raptors, this year, that's the first time I've ever really watched anything to do with basketball. But up until the last minute, it could really go either way for any of them games. So I don't really care for that. But baseball, oh, there is an. at me that really would love to say baseball. Okay. So you're saying baseball? I'm going to say this way. I agree with Harals. I think hockey is the biggest grind.

So it's almost like the team that can survive. The hardest championship to win. Football is the biggest bang. You know, one game you're out, one game you win. The spectacle. The spectacle. Thanks, Dust. And to me, basketball is the biggest fan thing, right? I mean, you think about last year, it doesn't matter if it's the rabbit. Last year we got to see it first hand because it's Toronto. But I mean, the fans just get, I mean, NFL probably has more fans.

But it seems like in the basketball, they really cling on to the superstars and get into that full mode. And it's the music and it's the whole vibe of it. And then for me, baseball is the intensity. It's the anticipation. And as a fan, for me, sometimes, you know, I kind of compared it to winding up a jack in the box. You just don't know when it's going to pop. You can watch a game. It could be one-one until the ninth inning. And all of a sudden, some team scores two runs you think gets in the bag.

And then the other team comes up in the bottom and scores three. And it's just the intensity and excitement of that. So I look at the four sports in two different ways. So you've got two sports that are kind of flow games in basketball and hockey. Basketball, there's lots of points. And so sometimes I have troubles, you know, obviously when it gets late in the game and it's tight, you kind of get it. But there's points, and then there's, you know, you're scoring points. You're going to have points scored on you.

tough to have a feel for the game at times. Whereas hockey, it's a low-scoring game, so a goal is a huge thing. And it goes into overtime. Obviously, hockey is my favorite of those two, but I enjoy them in different ways. In baseball and football, there's stop and start games. And so there's that anticipation between plays, and you know when a big moment's happening. You know when it's the ninth inning and there's a guy on second base and they're down by one. You know, there's a huge moment coming because it's a three-two count.

and it all builds to that moment and you can see it coming and there's a pause before it happens whereas in hockey and basketball everything's flowing and so there's more chaos to it and the same thing happens in football a little bit except football's a little different because it's one game not seven and so you got to have your a game and uh and it stops and start same thing where certain plays you can anticipate them coming and the excitement gets up so i enjoy watching them all it's just different feel to each of this sports for sure well i'm going to i'm going to pick one then. I'm going to be the guy who doesn't step on every single pedestal. I'm going to say baseball has the best playoffs. Hockey by far has the best first round because that is the only

sport out of all four, I think, where you go any team in there and it's been proven time and time again with the salary cap and everything else. Just how it's time for be lightning. That in the first round, anything can happen and anyone can win. You get into the 15 teams, you can win the cup. I can't think of another sport where you think, yeah, the 16th place team's going to walk in to win whatever championship. M.O. or NBA for sure is not even remotely close. But the MLB as a whole, every single round is as good as it gets. The wild card game into the next, into the next, into the next is just awesome.

The way they have the All-Star game decide who gets home advantage in the World Series, to how the two different leagues have the one's got the DH, one doesn't. For some reason, it's just all work. And in the playoffs, it's fantastic. Is it with baseball, is there a couple of things that work in its favor compared to the other sports in that there's less team that make the playoffs

and the series are shorter at the beginning, meaning that, you know, in hockey, you got four, seven game series. Whereas in baseball, the wild card games won get in. So there's lots of excitement there. And the next round's five games. And by the time, you know, it doesn't drag out for forever

because hockey takes forever to get to the final where someone actually wins the cut. I would also say, though, that they play back-to-back nights. Whenever they're in a city, they play back-to-back. So there's no weight. You just get games. And I don't know of any other sport that can do that.

It ratches it up the intensity because you're just playing night after night. And it's one guy you're worried about. It's the pitching staff, right? Because they're throwing the ball. You don't have to worry about a full hockey team being banged up and having to give them a night or two off. So everyone's kind of on their best, usually. I'm not sure Kirk Gibbs.

But that was brilliant. Yeah. actually reminds me of the pitcher for the Red Sox too. Kurt Schilling. That was in that year that the Red Sox came back. He actually pitched game six, I believe. Yeah, that's kind of awesome. How about best regular season?

So, like, what's the funnest regular season to watch? For me, it would be NFL. NFL is as well. I'll agree with that. MLB is so hard to watch throughout the regular season because there's so few teams to get in. There's so many games. There's so many.

Well, the 162 games. It's too much. The NFL is almost like playoffs in the regular season, right? Every game means something. You cannot have a kick or miss a field goal because that one game might decide whether or not you're getting in playoffs or you're getting out of playoffs. Another thing you get a love about NFL is they own a day of the week. I know they play on Monday and Thursdays, but they own a day of the week.

Everybody knows that. Everybody schedules around them. Absolutely. Absolutely. I often think about the NHL, what they should do is, have everyone play on Saturday. Well, they try. They try to, don't they? No, they do, but they don't have everyone play.

I think they should schedule their whole week so that every Saturday, every team plays. You start at, now they do this a lot, but I mean every team plays that day. What does the 31st team do right now? Play with themselves, obviously. The only problem with that, I think that you would possibly, and now I know

what you're going to say, but I got to bring it up, is college football has Saturday. So that's the reason why. If you're competing with college football, well, you know, get a life. I just think they only compete for the first half. Yeah. What other day you can own?

Well, and how many fans at college football are hockey fans? I'm sure there's some crossover, but I think you can still own that day. There's no way they ever shortened the NHL schedule, is there? No, because it's all money. It's all too much of money. If you owned one of the teams, would you want a shorter schedule?

No, I want to make money. Yeah, right? I think the season would be better if it's 62 games long and then the playoffs, but it'll never go there. Let's talk about the Oilers then, the NHL. Let's move on to the Emmington Oilers. A new look again, and they're off to a blazing start of 5 and OIL, and they were down 1-0-0-they were down 1-0-0-they-gown-go got an opportunity to go 6-0.

What has been your guys' thoughts so far on the New Look Oilers? and maybe Holland being in and Tippett. I'll start on Holland because I was not a big fan of his signing. I thought, you know, I wasn't opposed to it, but I thought he was kind of old in the tooth. And I wasn't sure that he could actually, you know, do what needed to be done there. But I've been pleasantly surprised, quite honestly.

The moves he has made have been smart and shrewd. We can all talk about James Neal being the big deal that paid off right now. The real deal. The real deal. His name is James Neal. But the day they made that deal, they won the trade. Whether James Neal panned out and got seven goals in the first five games or not, it doesn't matter. Because they won that deal the day they made it.

Because he was, you could actually buy him out if it didn't turn out. You didn't have to protect him in the lottery, the expansion lottery. So they won that without doing anything. Plus he had more upside because Luchich isn't fast enough anymore. So they won that deal right out of the gate. I will give it to Holland on that one. And everything else, he's done smart. He's kept the kids down in Bakersfield,

which is exactly what you want to do. They actually... Why is that such a hard thing for any GM to understand? I think it's just the pressures of winning. I think it's whether it's your GMing or your coaching. It's... If someone said to you, you've got five years and it doesn't matter what happens,

it'd be a lot easier. Kent Holland's a guy that has won a lot. He's got ringed. I don't think he feels the same sort of pressure as some of the other people that come in there. And you got a really veteran head coach and Dave Tippett. I think the pressure of winning is intense,

especially at that level. You're coming into a hockey mad market like Emmington and they want to see things, they want to see Bouchard up in the lineup because he was their first round pick and he's their savior because you're just talking about Joe Fan. You know, I mean, yeah, you get a few guys,

they'll say, yeah, it's smart to send him down, but the average guy wants to see Bouchard up. take some, some, you know, some balls. Like it or not as well, it all has to do with, so you're the Oilers. All of a sudden, Ethan Bear jerseys are going out the wazoo because you've got a lot of natives in Alberta and Saskatchew, and there are a pile of Ethan Bear jerseys out, and he's played how many games for the Oilers so far. So you do have a little bit of course for that way?

first pair. Ethan Bear is killing it. Right. Yeah, but how many games is he played actually in the NFL? So you're saying Jersey sales? That's why? It all adds to it all. No, I don't think they kept Ethan Bear because of jersey sales.

No, no. I'm not saying that. What are you saying, Harold? Like, because if they would have kept Bouchard, they would have had just as many jersey sales. Those bigger names draw more sales, more, you're trying to promote your game. You're trying to get the name. I will say this, is that Yakupov, the reason why they kept them, was because of Jersey's Hills?

Well, maybe part of it. No, because of the fans, because of they thought he was the savior. I think they get into a savior complex where they try and keep guys up who are going to save the team and let it, instead of going, what is best for the development of the player? Hey, let's talk, like NHL, they talk about it. It's getting younger. It's getting younger.

It's getting so young. Everybody's young. That's great. But if you look over the last 13 years, we've made the playoffs once. So the cup run, or we lost in the finals, we've made one year in the playoffs. and pretty much out of those 12 years, anyone who got selected in the first round played for us, right out the get-go.

Including Yamamoto. Including Yamamoto. Right? Like you think of all the guys it did, not just the first overall guys, but it seemed like everybody. Yeah, everybody. Eberle?

Did Eberle play in the Myers? No, Eberle-I'm sure Eberley played. He maybe went back to junior for a year and then he was straight on a team, wasn't he? And Cogliano, Polyarvy, Pliarvy. He didn't the dry saddle. They kept for a bunch of the season,

Even though he wasn't going to plan. They wasted his first year of his contract. And then sent him down. Yeah. It was insane. It's like it's overmanaging. And that's like just simplify it. That's what Ken Holland's done is he just brought an error.

Well, he talked to one in his press conference, right? He said we need to bring stability first. Yeah. Is this a better deal the James Neal deal or was it signing Dave Tippett? His best move he made is signing Dave Tippett. But it was, I mean, the James Neal deal, but sending Bushard down. because those three I tell you what I was not

I was skeptical of them but those three moves you just mentioned there yeah well because now what they say now is you got you send Bouchard now down anybody else you draft go well they send Evan Bouchard down yes hey you're not that special

go down there for a month too if you're that good you should be back up in a couple months right and that's what he set by a precedent right off the bat you know what he's got that other GMs didn't have is Eminton has actually has defensive depth at the

moment because they actually have so are you giving credit to sherelli on this one are you in credit to pete come on give pete a little shout out here dust punch pete the face anyhow wow they actually no they actually do have defensive depth and maybe peter shrelly that's part of that good things he did defensive depth is trading taylor hall for larsson no that's you know but you look at what they've got behind they've got six NHL defensemen right now who can actually play the game. They got a couple of young kids in the in the HL that are actually could play the NHL. Yes. Because Jones proved it last year. He was good enough to play. Now do you want him playing top pairing minutes every game? Probably not. But is he good enough to play third pairing?

But a month ago, nobody thought Bear was going to be playing top pairing minutes. And they got Broberg now that they drafted and it built into the depth. I think the other thing that Ken Holland brought was just a little bit of confidence and swagger. And not swagger as in hey, look at me, more just calm the troops down. We're going to be good. We're going to do the right things. It's going to work, guys. We're fine. Then he brings in a good solid coach who the players like, but still preaches a defensive system because he doesn't have to be all running gun. You've got McDavid and Drysidal. All he needs a good power play, which they've had. It's really interesting. You need three shutdown lines and Dry Sal and McDavid on another line and go to town.

Well, and a power play. It's really interesting. Jay and I were fortunate enough to play in the alumni game, Eminton versus Calgary. Oh, who scored in that game? I can't remember. Did either you brother scored? Yeah, that would be the better Newman. I just want to say on that that I actually did in the first game, but it tipped off my stick and they gave it to, actually, Fistrich.

So he was on the score sheet. So he was on the score sheet. And they gave it to Brownie, and I didn't really want to run to the refs box and claim the goal. I've got my puck at home. What team were you playing for Harles? You know what? I played for the planes.

I'm going to dodge that one. We always kind of knew about you, Harlels. We always kind of knew. Duss, what would happen when we all got into the truck? Who sat up front? The oldest. So I reneged, allowed the older brother to take the spot with the Oilers and took the spot with the flames. And you know what, to be honest with you, I wasn't really too excited joining the flames,

but did it anyways. And after the fact, I am 100% happy that I joined the flames. He's now on Lucci's money again. Unbelievable experience. He loves Johnny Goodgerald. My favorite play of the whole game is I rubbed out Harley behind the net. That's true. So we got to and talk to some of the Flames guys in the dressing room there.

And I believe it was McCowan or Mersen, Mersen maybe. And we're sitting there talking to him about the Oilers and he's kind of ribbing us. We're ribbing him about the flames. and he said honestly the one the best thing that the oilers have done in the last 20 years is bring in Dave Tippett he said I don't have a lot of respect for coaches NHL coaches especially because a lot of them just like to yell but he said Dave Tippett is one of those coaches man that's pretty good feather in the cat I really like till Harley had an ending to his story there I'm pretty pumped with that brought her all the way back around

Us, Newman's, you know, we like to drag a story on and on and go in tangent. I was going through the numbers, boys, for the last 10 years, at the first 10 games of the Oilers starting a season. And only twice in 10 years have they had a winning record in the first 10 games. I mean, other than that, it's been pretty, pretty abysmal. The one year, they obviously go to the playoffs, and the other year was the lock and short, lockout, short in year and they didn't that's the only or no under tom rennie actually it was a couple

years before the year before ralph kuger one of tom rennie's last year as they had a decent start to a season other than that every start to the oiler season is kind of like rinse and repeat four and six three and seven there's no five and five there's no eight and two like so for the oilers to be in five and all and i know they're down one nothing after two periods here But how big of a confidence booster is that moving forward? Well, it's just it's the whole confidence thing, right? Ken Holland comes in. He instills that.

Dave Tippett comes in. And if they lose four of the first five, everybody walks around going, yeah, here we go again. Yeah, right, Dave. Yeah, thanks. And sometimes you just need a little puck bounce, a little puck luck. And, you know, they come back on Vancouver on a game. They probably shouldn't have won.

you know they they win a shootout against l.A. in the old 80 style and all of a sudden and you could just almost see from watching them you could just start to see that confidence and a little bit of swagger and all of a sudden they felt like they could do it and then now what Dave's saying on the bench is working and now you win another one and you know and then you win one against jersey you shouldn't them but then you still win one and and uh pretty soon it becomes fun yeah and now here they sit and now you got a team like LA questioning everything they do you know and these are guys they still have guys on the team that won two cups And it's just a funny...

I will say this about the others. I am excited about them, and I am cheering for them. But they have had a little bit of an easy schedule to start the year, which is helped. Oh, easy schedule. Yes. You know what? I keep hearing the easy schedule thing. Easy schedule.

Easy schedule. It's like, yeah, who gives us shit, right? Like, I mean, they could easily be freaking... Tell me... Two, two, oh, and we could be going, well, they got a point in the third game, and, you know, it's neat. But, you know, they're on the road. They have to act. The better to try and do his temper expectations, Sean, because they're not going to a two and oh.

Tell me this, though, on the same side. Gene Prince-Pay was talking to Cassian after their last game and said, do you know how many teams walk into New York and win all three games? Not many. And you guys just did it, right? Whether or not it's a little bit of puck luck or a little bit of this or a little bit of that, they just walked in and stole three throughout the two New Yorks and New Jersey, I just think how many years have we been watching where they go,

they get a team on the back-to-back. They have a team come to them and their home barn on the back-to-back playing Calgary the night before. You're like, this should be an easy win. It should be a win. It should just be slam-dunk. And then they lose like three-nothing. And you're like, holy crap. Well, and I agree.

And you know what? I agree with the dust. They say they're playing teams that didn't make the playoffs last year, but how did the conversation be going right now if they were two and three. No, no, I realize that. All I'm saying is that they're not walking into Tampa Bay, Toronto, and Boston and winning three. That's all I'm saying at the moment.

They're not playing the top teams in the league. And so they're doing well, and I'm cheering for them. And they're, you know. So thank goodness for them, all three of them are on the other side. Yeah, pretty much. Well, they're in the deepest division. The thing with something like this, though, is it's giving them the confidence where they have now put together five straight wins right off the bat.

and you never know how far that can take you, right? This might be where for the next three years, if Tippett's there for the next three years, but do you remember when he first came in and it gives him the confidence to just move forward? Put everything else in the past, whatever was in the past is in the past, and now we've got a fresh start.

Look at how well we've done, and let's continue moving forward here. I'll say this, five games doesn't win you the cup, but I feel we've been in long, dry spell and long and I know we got one year in the playoffs but we've been in a long dry spell to start a season like this is just kind of nice to tepper i kind of bask in it to temper up expectations i would not be uh so concerned about their record right now as giving up the first goal in all six of their first games here now that's just bringing out the fans it's jersey sales i'll say the

two things i'm pleased about with the others is i had questions about their goaltending and their goal-tending's actually been good to start the year. That's fun to watch. Yeah. Manning can move a puck. It's unreal. The other thing is James Neal, obviously. He's been a very pleasant...

Let's talk about James Neal for two seconds. Just two seconds. Because when Holland first got signed and we were on Dustin's road trip, and listeners remember, we're on this... We're on Dustin's road trip, 40th road trip out to Vancouver, and off air me and Dustin gotten this huge argument about Holland. And then he makes the trade. Luchich for James Neal.

And I just, I almost feel bad for the flames right now because they got to deal with Luchich on a nicely basis. And I like Luchich. I'm going to be honest, listeners. I have a Boston Luchy's jersey. When he played for Boston, he was the man. But watching him play for the flames, I'm like, who's the back guy in the flames room there? You know, when we're all sitting around, you got Trelevine and you got all the guys.

Who's the guy that said, guys, I really think we should do this. How is he feeling right now at the next meeting? They needed toughness. If they get in the playoffs, they need their Pat Maroon. But isn't James Neal Pat Maroon? I don't know. See, here's the funny thing about tough guys in the NHL. If you were a tough guy who put up points at any point in time, you always have value.

It's amazing because Loo Cheech, we watched him last year. And he had some decent hits, sure, but he was awful. He was playing out awful. Yeah, well. And the Leaves traded for him and gave up a player that could have bought out. and didn't have to protect in the draft lottery. Yeah, I agree with everything you're saying, Dust. You know what I find funny is you've got four Newman brothers talking about toughness.

So that's kind of funny in my own right. The toughest one out of us all on the rank is guy 5, 6. But anyways, I agree with you. I just can't imagine who the guy is in that back room right now. Because somebody told Trey Living. Yeah. Didn't he have a scout that say, no, listen. I've dealt with Milan before if we talked to this.

Did they watch last year? Go ahead. You were talking about what was the cable company that got sold out here just down in the States here about four or five months ago for like a couple billion dollars? I freaking can't remember. All I can think is Don Cherry. Why are you going to bring out a cable company? All I can think of right now, all I can think of right now is that deal. That deal happens.

That deal happens and they get sold to whatever other cable company for a couple billion dollars. The day after that happened, they immediately fired the guy that made that deal. And I can't believe for the life of me, the Calgary Flames haven't done it. I actually know what he's talking about. He's bringing it around. I'm bringing it around. I just can't believe that they haven't gotten rid of somebody and provided escape go for the fans going this was the guy that pulled the trigger they're locked into him now i mean

here's here's the question i wonder i wonder traveling didn't do that himself and the reason why i say that is you're not talking about two minor league players or guys that haven't been around that long you're talking about james neil and milan luchy you've been in the league for 10 years and traveling watched the playoffs last year and thought that calgary got pushed around because they got a couple small guys and for sure they did well and they did and so he goes well i'm going to solve that problem we need to get tougher. Wasn't Patrick Maroon available after this last playoffs, though? Yeah, but he's not Milan Luchich, obviously, Harley.

And James Neal, remember, they still need it, they still wanted, the reason they can't just go sign Pat Maroon is because they do have James Neal at 5.75. And not only that, they think James Neal was washed up and he's terrible and he's bad in the dressing room. Essentially is what they think. So they think, hey, if we can swap this for a guy, and remember, Trevelling called Milan Luchich directly because Milan had to give his. his blessing to make the deal go through.

And he called him and convinced him to go to Calgary. So is traveling going to wear that at some point? I would guess a year or two done, you probably won't. You know what? First of all, you're going to see how they do here. Because of they get in the playoffs

and Luchich makes a difference and has a couple of those ass. Is Luchich making a difference in the playoffs? Well, I don't know. Well, let's see if they get back in the playoffs. When the Lowe's in the playoffs, him and Kassian looked awesome. Yeah, you're talking about a couple years ago.

I understand. You're talking about Luchich. I wish I knew what the playoffs were like to us. I tell you, watch Sean, you're starting to encounter this where you're starting to get a step slower. As soon as that happens, the stress becomes very apparent. Let's talk about, we're going to move on from that low blow.

Let's talk about the main point. I will not, I don't comment on anybody's speed or anybody's hair. Remember two topics that are off limits for me. Or wait, Jay? No, no, I'm coming, dust. You can't really comment on the other side of things, can you? We had a family photo there, and I could barely see dust. Let's talk about the Maple Leafs.

Do they need to win this year? Yes. No. I don't think they have to win, but they can't go in there and make the playoffs and lose in the first round. They need some... I'll agree with that. They need some good feelings, right? Hey, they won the first round.

They beat boss in the second round. Look at us. They want a tough one against Tampa. Something like that. The problem they've got is they play in the toughest division in the NHL and it's not close. like you're going to have three of the top five teams in the same division again this year aren't you yeah and the other problem is i still think that there's a ton of young guys in that charmed maple leafs team that need a year or two of growing up yeah i know i agree and the other problem that they've got

is okay so yes they need a year or two but how long can they hold on to all those guys for a year or two you're getting to the point they got all their big guns signed yeah right okay Chicago is a perfect example of that then. Chicago signed all those guys for big money after they had won the Stanley Cup, right? They've signed all these guys now to big money before they've won anything. Now what are you going to do?

You're going to go out and you're going to get an average goalie because that's all you can afford. You're going to get an average defense because that's all you can afford. And then you're going to wind up hoping that you can rely on your scouting to get you your third and fourth line. And so now it's putting

an awful lot of pressure on your top two lines to produce. And if they don't produce... Oh, there's only a one line right now. And you hit a hot goalie in the playoffs. You're fucked. No, I realize that. What I would say... There was the first half.

They got Matthews locked up. They've got Marner locked up. They've got... They're going to have to trade one of them. And Neil Lander. So there's your top four. They're going to have to trade one of them here within the next year or two. What you're saying about defenses, right?

They got some young kids coming up on defense. Are they going to make a difference? I don't know. Do they have to win this year? No. Can they win this year? Yeah. The only thing I would say to any of this in is what last year would you have said,

or two years ago would you have said Winnipeg needed to win within the next year or two? No. But look at where they're at right now. All of a sudden now you're short-dust and buff one. It reminds me there was a trap door in the defense side of the room. Everyone just disappeared through. Hey, what happened, guys? Hey, Morrissey's looking around the room going to what happened here?

Now you're looking at teams that could drop through the floor as well. Now you're looking at teams that could possibly win the Stanley Cup in Canada. And I go, Winnipeg was top of the list here last year. And I don't even think that they're even in the conversation again because now all of a sudden they lost. Harley's hitting on a good point. Who, I had it written down. Who is the, who's going to be the team from Canada to bring the cup up north? who's the next team?

There's got to be a time frame because within the next couple years here No, I'm saying he's saying who's the next team I don't 20 years. I don't share the best shot at the moment's got to be Toronto I'm going to say I'm going to say I'm going to say I'm going to say I'm a 10 because they have the best two of the best players in the world I'm going to build around that

Holland's going to build a championship team and in three four years you're raising the cup I'm going to say you heard it here first dust I don't I don't think Vancouver's in the same situation right now Vancouver's fun to watch I agree.

They're awfully good. They are. They work flipping hard. Fair enough. Okay. Are they any better than Calgary? I'd say Calgary's better. Okay.

And I don't think, I can't see Calgary winning. And now you've told me that Calgary is better than Vancouver. So Vancouver then is not winning. Then you look at Winnipeg. Winnipeg has just fallen through a trap door, apparently. Who's the next team in the next 15 years? It's 20. It could be Quebec City.

It could be Quebec City. To me, if trauma doesn't do it this year, they're done. So then... You're in here first. And then Montreal. Montreal just seems like they're just turning the wheels here, eventually to kick... I'll just say Montreal in a couple years that they don't win, they're moving their team to a different city. So then...

So then for myself, the Edmonton Oilers have the biggest upside to the team going forward. I can just hear the... People listen going Homer. Just a home. Fair enough. Make your prediction then. We haven't made the playoffs once in 13 years. I don't think it says.

I honestly think it's Toronto. I watch their team. They're fun to watch. Everybody says they don't got enough defense. Yeah, fair point. They're a ton of fun to watch. And their defense has, you know, to me it's just, can they get through these playoffs where you watch Tampa Bay's fun to watch?

Tampa Bay almost broke the record last year for the amount of wins in the season. and what did they do in the first round. And Toronto's sitting here and it just reminds you the same type of team. You know, can they get to the second or third round? You've got to beat Boston. Toronto has to beat Washington and you've got to beat Nashville and you've got to beat these teams that are going to bang you.

The reason I say Toronto is Toronto's got the best team in Canada right now. And probably will for a year or two. Yes. I think they're the best team in Canada right now. Yeah. They don't have the best player or maybe the best duo, but they have the best team. Yeah.

Okay, so then for the next year or two, you're talking about Toronto. I don't think Toronto is winning in the next couple of years, so that's why I put all my money on Amiton. Jay? I said Eminton before you, Carl. All right. And then you had two leaf guys over on this side. Patty Marlow.

I like the story. Guy who... Original Saskatchewan boy, too. That's right. Goes out to plays, what is it, 18 years, 17 years for San Jose? Oh, no. I think he was in the league at 18, and I think he played until 30 years. So he was in San Jose until 37?

Sounds about right. 18 or 19 years with San Jose. Leave San Jose goes to Trump. For two? For two. He's traded Carolina and gets bought out. He comes back and signs, well, they give him an opportunity. And at 40 years old, he walks into a league once again that I talked about earlier, how young it's getting.

And they inject a little Patty Marlow. Scores a two goals this first game, gets an assist in the next game. gets a Heroes welcome back in San Jose. At 700K. At 700K. Yeah, I thought you were going to bring up my GMing. No, I'm not going to bring that up.

I just thought maybe there was another 40-year-old that you've seen 40-plus that you like watch. It does not have to be hockey. That is kind of that ageless wonder. Because the thing about guys always say about your mid-30s, your early 30s, he's hitting his 30s, you start to slow down?

and what was that dust? You started to slow down. Patty Marlowe was a guy they always talked about his speed, right? At 40, he can still move. Joe Thornton said he was still one of the fastest guys in the ice in practice before they signed him. How old was Barry Bonds when he was unreal?

And I know the Roy's saying. He was pretty close, wasn't he? Remember Chris Chelyos? Didn't he play to like 45? 47? What? Yeah. And the A?

Google it somebody. No, no, no. I'm going to say, right now on the air, I'm going to say he played in the NHL until 47. I thought he was 46 when he retired. Okay, we're going to, well, Harley, now it feels like we're on Wheel of Fortune here. Hey, all I'm saying is, I was going to say Tom Brady currently. The guy's 43.

There's a great example. Right, like that guy. That's ridiculous. And everybody always goes in the Belichick, blah, blah, da, da, blah, da, blah. We're talking about the most important position in the NFL. And he's still doing it. Still doing. Still doing.

Yager was good. Yager was going to be. At 40 years old, he was still. I wish I would have been old enough to see how. Yeah, Gordy. The one that, uh, going outside of hockey, for me, Nolan Ryan. Nolan Ryan was... The K. King?

Unbelievable. For me, it would be Barry Bonds. When he was in... You want to talk about playoffs. I remember that one playoff year when he was with San Fran. I believe they lost in the finals. And, like, they wouldn't even pitch to him.

They'd give him one pitch in the zone and he hit it over the fence. It was ridiculous. He was so scary. And he was like, yeah, he was like 38. So since we're talking about San Jose and Patrick Marlowe and a great story, blah, blah, blah.

The reason I pick San Jose to miss the playoffs is because they're bringing guys back like Patrick Marlow. I think they miss the playoffs this year because they're getting too old and I think they missed the playoffs because of it. I disagree because I always think that you have to have a good defense. I think one of the problems that the Oilers had for the last 12 or 13 years is their defense sucked and they didn't have a lot of, it didn't get any better. It just continued to be poor defense.

and I have a hard time believing San Jose with Vlasic, Burns, and Carlson, as long as they all stay healthy for 82 games, is going to miss playoffs with them three defensive. He played as Chris Jellios played the last game in the NHL at 47. 47, I was going to say. Last game of the NHL 47. He was born in 62. It was 2009, 2010. Did you just say that's what you were going to say?

Oh, because you were 47. I just wanted to make sure that I played seven games in Atlanta in 2009, 2010 at 47. That's ridiculous, by the way. Yeah. Anyhow, that's my prediction on San Luis. What's your sad story that you can't still be playing senior hockey at your age, Jay? I just enjoy my health here. I'm kind of more like... I think you mean beer. Isn't it like Andrew Luck? Is it Andrew Luck this year in the NFL that retired early?

28? Hey? He made his money and wanted to live healthy. I'm the second part. Do you have no money, but I enjoying living healthy with no money? Yeah, let's do some predictions. Before we're done here, I thought we'd, uh, we, I got to be like 0 for 100 on the Brothers Roundtable for doing predictions. We'll see if I can rectify that. But first one, Oilers make the playoffs.

Yes, no. Yes. I'm saying yes. Dustin. I wish I could say yes. I'm going to say no. Jay. I'm saying yes, too.

I'm saying yes, too. I hope we get to celebrate that in your face dust. But San Jose is going to make it, Jay. Yeah, I think San Jose will make it too So you're saying Vegas, Calgary, San Jose, Emmington, Arl making it? Yeah, on that side, yeah. Okay.

All right then. Duss, do you need them to say which every team? You want to continue on with my predictions? I'm just asking a question, Sean. Who makes a Stanley Cup finals your Eastern champion, your Western champion, and your Stanley Cup winner? Who's going first?

Okay. I guess I'm up. I'm going to go with Nashville and finals versus the Tampa Bay Lightning, and I'm picking Tampa to win up. I am going to go Vegas against Tampa Bay with Vegas winning it. You went Tampa Bay winning? No, Vegas winning. Well, I was going to go Vegas, Tampa Bay as well.

But seeing that happened, I think I'm going to go. That would have been three of us going all three Vegas, Tampa. Toronto. And let's bring the cup on home. Go Toronto. I was thinking of Vegas, Tampa, but I'm going to change it up and go Vegas Buffalo with Vegas win it. Buffalo is fun to watch right now.

Right now there's just some chicken fell out the window. You know what I should have done? I should have picked Vegas, Carolina, because I'm heavy on Carolina right now. They are a good team. Oh, you want to switch your pick dust? Sure, I'll go Vegas, Carolina. Should we mean again after the next five games? Do you want another pick dust?

Vegas, Carolina, Vegas, Carolina? Yeah. Vegas, Carolina, I tell you what, the one thing I'm, I put money on is Carolina winning that division this year. Who's winning the cup, though? I said Vegas. Vegas. I'm picking Tampa. Tampa Bay.

Vegas. Vegas. Toronto, my beliefs. Nice. Jeez, you think I was a Toronto fan. Over under on Ottawa to win 20 games. Oh, 20 games? I'm going to say over.

I'll say over. I'll say over. I'm going to go under. under 20 games Ottawa is the weakest team in the league this year Is that what you're guessing? Is that what you're saying? That's what I'm putting my 20 bucks on really be there

Well, what's Ottawa is a pretty bad tire fire Yeah, it's a bad tire fire Melnick is great for the league though, isn't he? Like he's just the dog you can keep kicking Oh, okay so we'll go with the Teams that haven't won here Chicago is 02 and 1

Oh, they're about 2-N-1 They're up to nothing I believe Minnesota is 0 and 4. No, they just won last night. Did they win last night? Are you on an old site or what? I picked this up. This internet's not up the night.

I picked it up last night. Ottawa was 1 and 3 and Jersey was 03 and 2. I'll pick Ottawa to be the last place team in the league. I'm asking you over under 20. So you're saying over, over, over, and I'm going under. How about Jersey right now? Jeez.

Jersey will get better. They're a better team than this. Well, Jersey's got the St. Louis Blues problem. Remember last year? Well, they brought in so many different guys. And it takes a while for everybody to meld and find their spot in the team and the whole bit. I mean, there's lots of excitement

because P.K.'s there and Jack Hughes comes and Gusev and it's all great. Simmons? You got to figure it out there. Yeah, Simmons's another one, right? Yeah. They'll be in the mix. Yeah, once they get going, they'll be better.

Who's your Rocket Richard winner? McDavid Oh Rock and Richard is most goals We were gonna do most points But Jay says it's more He figures more controversial here A bigger discussion to all of his most goals

Rocker Richard I'll go dry siddle just for the fun of it Oh for fuck sakes Aren't we just thinking of like hey A little bit of Scott Charles eh I'm gonna go Pasternak Who?

Pastorneck David Pasternak Boston Yeah If you guys missed it The Birdman Just flipped the bird to Jay I do not. I will...

I'll say Stamcos. Not Kutrov. Stamcos. Well, then I'm going to go with the Aege's Wander himself. I'm going to go with Ovechkin. Does it again. Does it again? It'd be incredible if you got 50 again, weren't it?

Yeah, we'll be. Like, how many seasons can you do this for? Greatest goal score of all time. All time? All time. See, I can't argue with you, but the other guy for me is Mike Bossy. I've always said Mike Bossy. about Avechkin is he's doing it

when goal scoring's way down. Oh, 100%. I agree. He keeps doing it year after year. Bossy was the original. Yeah, who cares about the original? Bossy had the best. You realize Bossy played like nine seasons, had 50 goals in every season or more and then he retired? Yeah, he was

incorrect. Kind of, that's where I dabbed myself after. Oh, come off of yourself. Like, really? But Evchkin has done it every year. I have another sketch. Every year. How about rookie of the year? I don't know any of the rookies. I'm going to go McCar.

Come on. That's who I was going to go. I'm going to go Cal McCar too. Defenseman for Colorado. I just think he's got more support there. You know, like he's playing with guys like McKinnon and stuff. You're going to get points. Right?

Where's Kako and Hughes? Plus he walked in the playoffs last year and like legit. I like Kako's name, so I'm going to go with him. I don't know enough of the rookies, to be honest with you. Well, you got Hughes and... No, but Hughes is playing with Jersey and I'm not big gone. There's Quinn Hughes. Quinn Hughes with Vancouver. Cody Glass with Vegas.

The other dark horse, Victor Olson with the Buffalo Sabres. Yeah, there you go. There you go. He is lighting it out. I'm talking about Buffalo making the finals. There's going to be your rookie. And he was drafting like the sixth round or something. It's ridiculous. All right.

Our final prediction of the night as we sign off here, we're about what is it two, three days away from the dusty man tournament our team has not made Sunday the playoff round in

this will be what year four if we don't do it I believe so are we making Sunday I blame Nate every year I'm going to blame it again this year because we're not going to make it because of him that's my prediction well he is the GM of the team

yes it's easy to blame that loudly clear yes I do like the depth on the team this year we've got you mean the 20 players yeah we've got we've got a senior hockey we got enough for injuries so try power if you're out there looking i might have to come join dad um i'm gonna say we make it to sunday i'm gonna say we make it too i was i'm very 50-50 on this right now but i'm gonna say that we make it i also think we're gonna make it i think we're gonna do it I think we're going to be back on Sunday. We've improved in the goaltending.

We've upgraded on the back end. Oh, I forgot. We got rid of Burt. Okay, I'm on side. We're going to make. Well, boys, thanks for coming in and doing an impromptu Brothers Roundtable. The last thing I want to say is October 21st is the election. Make sure that you go vote.

We live in a country where even if you don't think your one vote matters, it does. You've got to get out and vote. That's what is so wonderful about our country. So please go vote October 21st. That's a Monday. Don't miss that. And I won't direct it either way. Just go vote.

I'm sure the brothers think the same thing. And thanks for listening again. And enjoy your days here, folks. And then go vote. For Pete's sake, go vote.