Shaun Newman Podcast - Ep. 63 COVID-19 Roundtable - Soups on Sports, Chris King & Shane Tomayer

Episode Date: March 23, 2020

A different type of roundtable. Joined by the Lloydminster Bobcat's broadcast team Tyler Campbell & Shane Tomayer along with Chris King the head coach of the womans Lakeland Rustlers basketball team. We discussed: - Tom Brady - NHL season & possible scenarios - Player recruitment - NBA playoffs - March madness style? - May cinema popcorn...yes a lot about may cinema popcorn - COVID-19 prep or lack there of

Hey guys, welcome to the podcast. Today is kind of a bonus edition for you. It's a Monday morning. A lot of people are stuck at their home. Even myself now, I've got the office set up here in the house. As of Friday, we moved everything to the house. So I got a little cubicle set up in the spare bedroom in the basement. So it's where I'm recording this as we go along and trying to stick the guidelines.

isolation and social distancing I guess is the key term here and I know everybody's probably sick of hearing that and you know as we go along here it's it's just the times get more and more interesting I mean it is it is strange days but first off I've a couple of cool things that I've been doing to help make the days a little better as wife got us going on 20 day, 21 day fixed, 21, something like that, beach body, not the meals, the actual workouts. I refer to the lady as Janice. I don't even know what her name is, but she sucks. But we're finding ways to, you know, instead of going to the gym, we're working out in the basement after the kids go to sleep and it helps to burn off a little energy and pent up

stress to say the least. Another thing we've been doing is we took the kids sledding, we took them out to the farm and took the sleds with us and, you know, it's been,

the weather last couple days has just been awesome during the daytime. So if you get the opportunity and you got some kids and you want to go burn off some energy, let them go up and down a hill about 60 times and they'll be tired, you'll be happy.

It's just nice to get out and let the kids burn off some energy. I know in the mornings for myself, obviously, if you're listening to me, jibber jabber on, I enjoy talking to people and not having social interaction all day long. I mean, my family's one thing, but usually I get to, you know, being in sales, talk to several people throughout the day, and right now, that's not been quite the case. case so I've been really using the FaceTime call app to keep in touch with people and I've actually been enjoying it. Have you tried that? Maybe you should just FaceTime somebody in the morning and sit down and have a coffee like you normally would and it ain't so bad. I mean

don't get me wrong it's not as good as the real thing but I find it it makes sitting and having a coffee in the morning go a little better. I certainly enjoy that. I was just talking to my neighbor John Kadootsky lives right behind me and he was talking about board games. There's another great thing that's been kind of dusted off. Everybody gets stuck into their phones and everything else. And now you just can't wait to get off of it. Everything you hear about is coronavirus, this,

virus that, social distancing, etc. And we all got to stay up to date. But if you want to lose yourself for a little bit, grab a board game and get that firing off. But I'll stop going. My next episode on Wednesday, Obviously everything is moving towards, I'm going to be doing it via a computer, so not in person, sticking to social distancing, making sure that we're not letting this thing spread, flattening

that curve. So this was the last episode I did in person, and at the time we were using the two meter distance rolls, we were spread out around a big table, we had hand sanitizer, or wipes, you name it, we were doing it that night. But got together with this group of guys. just wanted to have a little bit of fun, give you guys a little bit of something to chuckle about. And so I sat down with Shane Tomair and Tyler Campbell,

who do the play-by-play for the Bobcats, and then obviously Chris King, who's the head coach, the women's basketball team for the Lakeland wrestlers. I had a blast with these guys, sat down, you know, a couple hours, and we, you know, shot the shit and had a laugh. And we talk, you know, of course we're going to talk some sports,

but we talk about some other things in there, too. And I think you guys are going to, you know, really enjoy it. So without further ado. All right, well, welcome to the Sean Newman podcast. Tonight, I'm joined by Shane Tamer, Chris King, and, well, soups, Tyler Camel. Just to start it off, fellas, I thought maybe you could go around and introduce yourself and a little bit about yourself. Other than Kinger, nobody's ever been on this podcast before. We're just going to have a little fun. I know we're, well, I'll let you introduce yourself and then the way we can go. We'll start with Shane.

Shane Tomeyer, I am of the Lloydminster area, I suppose, born and raised. I work with the Lloydminster Bobcats, both on the board, as well as being the play-by-play voice for the team or some part of the broadcast, as long as they've had one year from when some other toothless guy stepped in for my spot. He was pretty good, I heard. I'm excited to be here, by that. I can't wait until we solve. I haven't been on a podcast other than soups, I don't think, so I'm really looking forward to when we solve a murder or whatever it is,

you generally do on a podcast. You'll be doing something like that. Chris King here from Lakeland College, wrestlers women's basketball, and Golden Ticket Sports. Got to give that plug. That's it? We'll get it later.

We'll get it later. Well, I'm SOOPS. I'm Tyler Campbell. I'm the CEO of Sups on Hockey. Is that the right term? CEO? Oh, blogger. Sorry.

Blogger on Sups on Hockey is what I kind of do in my spare time. also spunky sidekick to Shane Tolmire on the Lloydminster Bobcats broadcast this season. We did it in the past and we did it again this season and I'm proud to call that man a colleague and he's wearing a nice shirt tonight for those listening. Only guy who dressed out for the podcast. He looks. How is this dressed out?

I noticed two, you're wearing a tragically hip t-shirt underneath. We got the hip shirt underneath? This is my hipster look this evening. I got the haircut. I didn't think it was a fancy shirt by all means. Oh, it's fancy. my comfy, cozy jacket shirt thing. I look like it could be chopping wood.

Wow. Yeah. That's why I like it so much, because it looks like you just came to chop and wood. And, yeah, I think that's done for me. I do some other stuff on the side. It's all, like, blogging and different podcasts from yours. It's just me ranting about hockey.

It's not professional like yours. Professional. La de. La dee. La Tida. Thank you, sir. Well, we're kind of in weird territory. I would say I don't want to really, I'm hoping to provide some entertainment to some people listening, you know,

whenever this gets released here in a couple days. But we're kind of in weird territory as we got the bottle of hand sanitizer in the middle of us, and we've all squeezed it 12 times now as we sat down and everything else. I can see jokes wanting to spew out. But thanks for joining me, boys. It means a lot. for me this is a stress leave I don't know what'll happen if I get locked up

I'm gonna have to figure out Zoom and everything else because I really enjoy talking to people and when that's taken away I don't know what I'm gonna do so I thought we'd start with what was the when this thing started sliding over the hill what was the first thing you went out and bought I know toilet paper ran off the shelves

for me I bought two things Scotch was sadly like way up there and then Frozen 2 for my kids because I thought if I had to watch Frozen a thousand times now I'm kind of regretting Frozen too great movie great movie watch it last night um actually on the on on on a streaming service I'm not going to give me any free ads here um but uh I you know what I'm I'm I'm the opposite as as odd as that is I'm a germ guy I don't I don't like hand and shakes that sort of thing I do it because I've got a great handshake You guys all missed out today.

It's solid. It's firm but kind, you know. But I didn't panic. I saw everything happening and people were running crazy. I'm just silly. I'm not running to the store for anything. It's going to blow by in three days. Whoops.

Yeah. I ended up finding toilet paper at Staples. Four days later when I realized we had one rule in the house. I do need to go shopping. Look at that. I'm proud to say I also didn't hoard anything. although you know what's going to happen now that all the toilet paper got picked up everywhere

in like two weeks. We're going to have so much toilet paper in every single store that no one's going to know what to do with it. Didn't pick up anything. I was the same way. Just made sure my streaming services were good for the kids. Today I picked up Duplo and kinetic sand. So we got a lot of stuff going on tomorrow.

It's a craft time in the Kinghouse. Yeah. Daddy Daycare is on day four. I don't know what Duplo is. It's like bigger Lego. It's like bigger Lego. It's for kids. kids that don't have good dexterity yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I got you. I don't got the kids, but I could use some of that myself. I see you. It's awesome. Well, I was at the other game when the NBA news broke last week, and so the first thing I did was got in line for a whiskey, because I knew it was going to be my last sporting event for a while. So our buddy Puffy was there,

and so me and Puff were standing in line talking about the NBA. Like P.D.A.? Sean Colms. No, not that, Puffie. My friend Justin. And so we were standing there getting our booze knowing that we better enjoy these last 40 minutes of the hockey game Because probably not going to be any sports for a while And so yeah, I mean, I haven't bought you know, I haven't ordered anything anyway

I'm shocked by that you live with a teacher Yeah, teacher's plan Yeah, she's well she's still going to work till Friday So she's got her own stuff to worry about So, you know Let's talk about the NHL Well let's just talk about pro sports and sports general.

They've basically said six to eight weeks. They're talking about May now as maybe. For the NHL specifically, if, let's say, June 1st, they could say, hey, you could get a season going again or whatever else. Any of any thoughts on that, how that would look? Or what a scenario of, hey, we can start playing some games again. You know, they're sitting around a boardroom or conference call trying to figure it out. You can guarantee those talks are happening daily.

I don't see any way that you get a proper and tangible playoffs. So things starting like on ice before the middle of May. I just, I can't see how it's possible. When you look at what's got to be done and the things that are time sensitive, you've got a draft coming up. You've got free agency starts on July 1. You've got arbitration that starts on July 2. how do you cram in you certainly i think the last you know give or take 13 games of the season are

shot um you pretty much have to have some form of playoffs that start with the season as it sits today um how how you go through some sort of tournament tournament format before the end of june i have no idea because then you've got so many other things to determine and work out in terms of um after July 1, you've got players that don't belong to a team anymore. So now are they going to play for free, essentially, for some indeterminate amount of time while they work through the playoffs? They are looking at, I think one of the things I saw today is they're looking at changing the whole,

did you see that today, where they'd push everything back, free agency back, draft back. Next year's season would be shorter, would be like 72 games. the season would start later, but the issue with all of this starting late, and this will come up when we talk about NBA. But the end of the day, players get paid on what comes into the league, right, the escrow account. So that's going to affect. Oh, the players want playoffs for sure.

100%. And they want all that. Like, if they had it their way, when they come back, they're going to play 82. And then they're going to play playoffs. And even if they had a short break, they're going to still get their money. The more that they lose here, the worse it is for everyone involved. Think of what that does to the game and injuries. I saw a bit of a wild plan this afternoon, this evening,

where they talked about, okay, if we can get back to the ice at June, we need a two-week training camp. We come back from that. We play the remainder of the games. Playoffs start in the season runs in July. Playoffs start in August, on August, September. You have October off. Season goes again in November,

and you have an abbreviated season ending again in the end of June. With no recovery time. You're going to have injuries more. It's going to be a mess for next year. You've got to have multiple plans in place, right? Nobody knows what's going to happen right now. So you have the plan in place for May. You have the plan in place if you can't get going until June.

You have the plan in place. If you can't go until July. Well, July, as it stands right now, you're running into the Olympics. Well, if they exist. Sounds like that might be moved a year now. Yeah. But that's the worst time. don't know why they wouldn't just

I mean, just for the sake of the amount of planning and what's got to happen to get the Olympics off the ground. Yeah. Those people aren't meeting right now. It just seems so much easier to just push everything off for a while.

And so that's where, you know, Sean, we were talking before we came on about, you're asking me about the tweet that I had here the other day and yesterday, I guess it was. And yeah, like that's kind of the best solution

that I think and Kinger kind of touched on it already and it's the NHLPA's plan to kind of start, I think there's a start August. I kind of was thinking, even September is when you'd kind of, you maybe get camps going mid-August, kind of like they do with the Bobcats, right? And, and just, and kind of letting it play out till probably end of October. You could maybe, if you've got to go short in playoffs, you could go five-game series instead a seven-game series. There's a lot of stuff that can be done. But I think the angle,

no matter what, is let's get the Stanley Cup presented before maybe December. It's like, you know, and that's very pessimistic thinking if you're thinking December, but at least then you'd still have that month off, you still run the off season. I think that would be enough time. Think of the trickle-down effect of that, though, and what that does to do your hockey. Well, you're looking at a 50, well, that too. When you've got guys that, you know, they're up for camp for 5, 6, 7, 7, 8 games of the regular season, and then they get released back to the dub or the O or the Q or whatever.

Yeah. Now you're going to release those guys back to those leagues that hopefully are starting on their regular schedule, and you're going to drop them back mid-season. But that might end up working well for hockey in terms of owning the summer, right? because if an NBA talks about this all the time, the summer is like wide open, right? It's basically like the NBA goes and they have nothing to compete against other than like...

Well, you compete, though, against the two big players in the U.S. You compete against MLB and NFL, and you lose both of those flights. No, but NFL starting in September, right? That's fair. Yeah, like you're competing with NFL. You want to get those done whenever you can get them done, right? But if you run right now hockey runs,

let's be honest, in the U.S., September, to January, most of U.S. is football focused, right? So you're losing a big chunk of your fans. I think it's a time to step out of the football window and maybe capitalize on some of those football fans. Because if you think about it, what's most similar to football, it's probably hockey in terms of collision and impact. I would think a lot of those fans,

if they had nothing to watch on TV or ESPN, NHL playoffs, if you watch NHL playoffs and you haven't seen hockey before, you're in, man. So maybe that changes everything, and maybe all the drafts and stuff, maybe it gives you more times with prospects. I don't know how that works, but the logistics are, it's almost intriguing what could happen, how they could reshape the landscape. I'm not saying, like what you said, with kids going back to juniors and all that stuff,

there's some logistical nightmares, but there's also some, like, real positives, I think, for hockey. Well, and with the kids going back to junior two, like you're touching on, and I totally get that. But at the same time, they've had experience with that, right, with the Laco's. I mean, that has happened before. Yeah, that has happened before they've found their ways around it. So, I mean, I think at the end of the day, It's, you got to have multiple plans in place, is my opinion anyway. I don't think there's just one hard fast solution.

You think they're sitting around the table going, can we do not March Madness, June Madness, and have Best of Ones? I think it's a cool idea. Because it's, uh, giving everyone a shot. Appease some people. You, you go and you take those fringe teams of Florida's that sort of thing, give them an extra opportunity, open it up from 16 playoff teams to, what do you have to go? You have to go 24, 24.

Yeah. And have those extra eights in a playoff or a tournament format. It would be kind of exciting, kind of interesting. There's no doubt about it. But again, then you're looking at another couple of weeks of those teams playing and your top 16 sitting, waiting for that to happen. That might be the way, though, that you say, okay, if we end the season now, we bring in 24 teams, we're going to make up the revenue with this play and stuff.

And then if you go to, could you imagine best of three or best of five NHL series? Oh my gosh. That would be like best of seven NHL is still one of the most exciting things in the world to watch. The first round is the best playoff, anything, you name it. But as the rounds go on. Because everyone's healthy in the first round. Exactly. The first round in the final is really worth out.

No argument. It's the hardest cup to win. But as the rounds go on, it gets later and later in the summer. If your team main in it, you lose a little bit of it. But the first round, anyone can win, it's fantastic. And if you change that format for one year, you've got nothing to guess. You're trying to get essentially tradition in, right?

You want a cup winner. That's what they want. As much as they want the revenue, they want a cup winner. They're a league that's had them 100 years, right? 103. Something like that now. And two years without a name on it? Yeah.

Could be. Yeah. See, and you were worried about not being the stats guy here tonight. I look to you, though, You usually want to know it's just like in any broadcast. It's funny. No one looks down here. He's got 27 goals in the season?

It's interesting any way they do the playoffs because they're going to want to get that in. I think the season's probably done, but they'll do the training camp. And then it's hard to go in and play, though, without exhibition games or anything, right? To just go play. With the regulations of everything, could you not do a training camp before that, that, um, eight week mark is up. And that's been talked about. Because your training camp doesn't need fans.

Your training camp doesn't need the media there. You know what? These are closed camp, their practices, their skates. That's it. We do that for two weeks. Keep it under 50 people. Yeah. You can have a press room where they can talk to the coach.

Nice piece of Lazy glass between him and the media. Everybody wearing a welder's mask? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I like it. But I think, I do think that sports, will need to come back before everything else in the economy comes back just because it gives a large portion of the people,

something to watch and cheer for it. But if you do that with the training camp thing, I think you could bring it back. Let's say if we're not locked down, you bring it back, you test the players every day. Malcolm Gladwell was talking about this other day. Test the players every day. Do your training camp once everyone's cleared like a three-week period.

You go play playoffs. You still are testing guys all the time. But it does hit another interesting point. Just when you mentioned the economy is that this company, back, things are going to be hurting. Your attendance is going to take a dive because people aren't going to be able to afford playoff hockey. No.

And a lot of people aren't going to want to go out in public. I mean, a year when, that too, but a year when you're actually going to have some Canadian activity in the NHL playoffs, the Battle of Alberta is a real thing for the first round. And the Battle of Alberta right now is paying your bills. When you look and you've got, what, what did it, the early, Early in the day today, it was $15 a barrel, West Texas. It's less than that now.

What a kick in the gonads. And you're going to try to come out of that and spend $300 for a ticket to a playoff game? Although, if oil price in time does come back, because we all know that, it can get solved pretty quick. Absolutely. And then people might be willing to get out of the house and go spend some money on something. It's possible. I mean, it all depends on, I mean, they're talking about government support for all kinds of stuff, and that's going to be a real indication.

as to what people end up being able to manage and what the job market does and the housing market and every other market out there. It's all pretty bleak. And if the right things come into place to throw some support, then maybe people can do it. Can you imagine if they could find a way, no fans in the stands would be really, really weird,

but they could find a way to play how much viewership they get? Yeah. You can set yourself up for some good TV deals. TV numbers would be huge. Massive. Especially if you get it in the right time frame. Let's talk about it.

Is there anything that can, I know, WWE did a Thursday night Smackdown with no fans, which was really, I'm not a wrestling guy, but I saw some videos of it. Used to be a wrestling guy back in the day two and four. Well, we all were eight at one point. That's right. Yeah.

That's right. You had no choice on Saturday. Sunday. Sunday afternoon. Sunday was Stanley wrestling? Oh, I'm a little older, though. Sorry. Yeah, I was going to say.

I'm 40 going on 83. I'm a mixed age guy. By the numbers, I'm a 79, but I act like I'm 84 around people. I get the hell off my lawn, that sort of thing. But at the same time, I like video games.

Oh, Kittsgadi was a two and four? Because I totally got with Sean. Yeah, two and four. We should also bring that up. This is the smallest small town podcast. Yeah, this is the, ever. This is the 897 group,

right. Kitts Gotti here. Two Kits Gotti and Marwain. This is a small as it gets I did not realize that. Okay, so everybody understands two and four. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, everything else was fuzzy, but.

Everybody had the rich friend with a 30-foot-wide satellite day. That's right. It took three minutes to chat. I was the rich friend. Oh, look at you. The best part is... But I still was a loyal two and four guys.

The best thing is, it's still in your parents' yard. Yeah. It is. I know it is. I see it there when I'm hunting. It's painted now. It's painted now. No, it's not painted either.

That nice bleached kind of. beigey color now. It's there and so is the radio tower. It's an interesting yard, Bruce and Linda Campbell have. That's really. Lovely folks. We cut off the host here. I don't know how that happened. I let it go. So did you see

the W.W.E and the UFC were two things that ran with no fans. And I don't know if you can still even do that at this point, right? I don't know. Well, they're fly. WV.E. is doing WrestleMania. I heard those. No. As of when I came out here tonight.

Somebody mentioned to me just yesterday that it was canceled. No. And my response was, WrestleMania still a thing. March 18. So when he's going to hear this, it's going to go. I'm not a wrestling fan,

but I tell you what, I pay money to watch something alive. Oh, yeah, 100%. To see Gronk? I think UFC could have a go because they're so big in their pay-per-view rights, right? I think UFC, you lose the atmosphere, but I think UFC is still going to make money.

with no fans. And I think he, what's his face? Dana White? Yeah, he knows it, right? That's why he's pushing so hard for it. How about the PGA Tour? I think it could go as well.

What's a safer place to be outside with nobody within 100 yards. Playing golf. And you don't need fans. We've all, I prefer it. They probably all prefer it, right? Nobody out there.

You eliminate. You might see some of the best golf you've seen. I was just going to say, some of the best shots you've ever seen. You think about the dynamic of that and just thinking of it gives me the yips on the golf course. But to go out and teach you,

you've got 300 people on either side of you know lining the fairway right immediately off the T-box that any one of them is waiting for a trip to the dentist and Shane Tomeyer would be happier than I thought you're going to say any one of them ready to say get in the hole well that too like the yelling all that would get in the bush when you look at at tiger winning the masters and he's walking down the 17th fairway with Rory and Rory said you know what that's to Tiger is one thing, but it's beating the people around them and having that mass of people following you is what's really the intimidation factor around Tiger. He plays in it every day.

And you're in that for the first time. That's a whole different element. And you take that element out of it. Everybody's on a level playing field. You're playing yourself at that point. You're playing the course. You're not worrying about fans. You're not worrying about all of the other stuff around you.

That's one sport where could work and work really well. And also, I mean, the gate side of the PG's. tour, it's not big money. You're not buying a ticket for hundreds and hundreds of dollars for a day, right? No. The gate is just a, it covers the sandwiches for the players, I think, on the course, and that's about it.

Fewer ship stays high. Yeah, TV is where they make their money and there's no doubt about it, right? Where gate revenues for every other major sport is such an important factor. To the point you're making though, the UFC, the W. I won't say WWF because I am. That's all right. I'm not old to. I liked it better on

W-W. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I wasn't confusing the fat guys wrestling and the pandas. It wasn't the dynamic I couldn't understand. Somebody had issue with it. But those are two areas where it was weird watching the highlights of the UFC and seeing them afterwards and they're jumping up and down,

they're cheering and they're, you know, pandering to a crowd that doesn't exist. It was weird. Really, really weird. Well, have you seen the videos? of the WWE where they're wrestling, and I mean there is nobody. Yeah, they're showboarding. They're slamming the guys off there on this table, right?

And the announcers are right into it. You guys have announced. I'm not. Can you imagine trying to, like, put on your best width. You normally got what, 20,000 pounds in a building? Just like a bobcat. You get zero. That's what we average this year, was it not?

Something like that. Close to it. 20,000. Yeah. 18 maybe. On a slow night. On your Wednesday night, yeah. Yeah.

It gets down to minus 40 sometimes. Oh, it's chilly. Let's talk a little bit about the Bobcats, junior hockey. We'll flip back to the NBA for Chris at some point here. No, we're good, man. We're good. I don't talk some NBA, too. You'd tossed out a text earlier today, and I was, you know, I'm curious, this is a time for guys to go around, scout the playoffs, scout.

I mean, every level is scouting right now. Now everybody's grounded. There's nothing to watch. This is huge. What do they do then in the fall? we talked about the NHL and what maybe their steps are to maybe get a Stanley Cup final and a training camp and a blah, blah, to carry on with what's going on. But for the developmental side down through it, we can use basketball too, Kinger. Like it trickles down for everything.

Every sport right now, recruiting time is, well, you're sitting on your phone. And it's one of those things where, I mean, Minnesota State got their tournament done kind of just in time. which is a marquee event for recruitment. But with Mr. Bobcats, we had our spring camp for April 4th and 5th, whatever that weekend is. And that's a no-go. And it's a no-go for everybody. Anything hockey Canada sanctioned is done.

Until Hockey Canada says hockey's back on, it's a daunting thing. Right down. So, I mean, you know from through the season players that you wanted to talk to, players you wanted to have at that camp. So you still want to have those one-on-ones, that opportunity, right, to sit down, meet them, meet their family, do the more psychological evaluation, I suppose, a character evaluation.

But prime example, Nigel Dewey wanted to meet with a player down in the Calgary area. And this was last week, you know, while things were tempid a little bit and kind of nervous, and they're like, no, he's not meeting with that. anybody not a chance and so I mean you have the phone you're talking to players that way but it's it's not the same so you're you're gonna be relying a lot on what did you see through the year what was your scouting staff up to were they were they in front of these kids already hopefully hockey Canada opens up the

doors again you know by by late May or so and and you can get in and and have a camp again like usually we would have our camp in April we have a a second camp that would come kind of mid-July, mid-late July, and then main camp in August. So July and August still seem like very real things. But does your July camp, which for us as an organization, is more geared around to be like a 30-40 player camp, not huge numbers? Is that now suddenly an 80-player camp? You add an extra day to it or something? I don't know, you know, where you can have some of these other guys you would have had in in April

and getting another look at them. It's a big, big question mark, but if hockey doesn't become legalized again soon enough, it's going to make things very, very interesting. And not just for us, but you look at a team like Sherwood Park, for example. They're losing six key 20-year-olds this year. and other guys that they could go in the NHL draft. They could go early to school. Guylanders probably gone.

Guylanders likely gone. If you look around at any sport right now, though, you have those stories. I'm staring across at a guy who is heading to him. I'm waiting until he's done his point, because obviously I'm not in the hockey world, but I think my counterpoint as a coach is you already know who you want. If you haven't done your job,

I get that you guys have a big camp where you're inviting. in a ton of kids. Well, we don't, though. We do a small camp in April. Right. They know who they want. There's no doubt. But even in your case, you know who you want.

Yeah. But you're still bringing in excess of that to see how they compete against guys at their level or girls. 100%. So that's where the eye test has become like. Sure. So most, so we, for example, we signed three kids early this year, right? We're probably, we have 11 kids in our roster. We could return 10.

Reality is maybe 9 or 8. We're talking small numbers compared to hockey. We're currently recruiting four kids. I've seen all those kids play three or four times, so I know what they can do. There's not a lot of kids that I'm going after that I haven't seen. And for me, the way that I recruit is I need to see them myself. It just works out that on a –

I talked to Sean about this on a Tuesday or Wednesday night. I can drive to Regina or Saskatoon to watch these kids play. You guys have to rely on your scouts. But usually by, like, December, it's pretty much – here's the kids I want to get. Here's Tier 1. Here's cheer two, here's tier three, who I'm going after. Yeah.

And I think some of these kids panicking right now and stuff, coaches will find you, people will find you. Every program, whatever sport has a network that says, hey, did you hear about this kid in Mar-Wain? Well, it is so much easier today than it was five years ago. And I used the example of recruiting my internationals, and even I did this other day with a kid in Brandon. So FaceTime.

So I face all my international girls, I face-time their families. I get up at 6 a.m. Skype conversation. Is it weird? Hell yeah. It's the weirdest thing ever talking to a girl with her dad behind and answering questions. But it just, it makes you have to be a little more creative. The downside is you don't get to see the one-on-one compete against what you've got. Hopefully your guys' coaching system knows what you have and can compare without seeing it on ice. That's what it comes down to, right? And we're fortunate that way too, that Nigel is very hands-on. Right. He works nine days a week. And between coaching and practices, and he's on.

the road and he's meeting with players and watching players for the season. There's no doubt about that, but it still comes down to that fundamental importance of, you know, we have a 20 or 40 player camp in April with the intent of that that hopefully you have maybe 10 or 12 you want to bring back in that July camp, right? So it does change a dynamic a little bit because, again, and maybe it's different basketball to hockey because of the physical side of it. You can see a guy play at the midget level and see yeah he's he's got special abilities but then you take him to the next level where he's suddenly a a 16 or 17 year old and he's now got to play against a 20 year old that's it's the same but the physical side of it's a lot different i mean there's physicality

i would just don't get me wrong contact yes obviously yeah yeah but a 17 year old female playing against a 23 year old female which i'll be honest is a grown-ass female she's got her woman's strength right it's a huge it's night and day it is first I can literally get one of the best kids in the province from Saskatchewan to come to our program. And she's going to really struggle when she comes in and plays against women. And she probably should. Yeah. And absolutely.

But if she is one of the best players, she will. She'll find a way. Yeah, she'll figure it out. It'll take her maybe 30 days, maybe 90 days, maybe 120, and then she'll start to figure it out. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Talented 17-year-olds this year, they average six points for us. Super talented.

It's just they're not ready. But you're not. That six turns into 18 next year. Yeah, knock on wood. Hopefully. But I get what you're saying in terms of the physical contact piece because we don't have the collisions. But physically, our freshmen get thrown around.

But also our school ends in April, right? School starts in September. So by end of April, everything's got to be short up for me. Whereas you guys have those other camps and guys are looking at different teams. It's totally different dynamic. So I would think that most coaches know who they want. I think maybe this produces a little diamond in the rough

for some hockey. teams where you can get some guys that maybe you wouldn't have had a chance to get because they're not able to if hockey is the same as the way basketball is they aren't able to showcase themselves to 12 different organizations right they're able to just you saw them or you didn't see them that's basically it they're basically limited by their time like we yeah we have our camp in april and unless unless they've signed a letter of intent with us they can go to 14 different spring camps if they want to yeah so they can look best fit and all that stuff so that's what I'm saying now you might get those kids that.

You might because you think of a midget team or a Bannam team somewhere in there going across all different age groups here that go deep into playoffs. How many more eyes start to focus on those teams that go deeper and deeper. And if they don't, which now they can't, now all those eyes don't get to see them. So if you've seen them and you're the only team talking to them, they're absolutely. That could work in your benefit. For sure. Yeah, if you've done your homework, if you found that diamond in the rough, you're right. Yeah.

Yeah. We've got to talk about Tom Brady. I had it. That's way down on the list here. I hadn't written at the bottom. I had it written at the bottom of the list. He's realized it's taking us an hour to get through one topic already. It's only 35 minutes.

We're doing it. I was thinking I was going to lead off Tom Brady, and then I got forgotten all about it. But I was talking to a couple of guys today, and Tom Brady, you know, for myself, I never, Tom Brady is no longer Patriot, right? The only reason I was a Patriots fan I was because of Tom Brady. I said when Tom Brady retires, I'm probably going to cheer for

people don't hate me for this, but my wife's from Minnesota. God bless you. Probably the Vikings. Go bikes. School! Yeah, I'm with you. Have you been to that stadium?

No. Oh my God. Which is criminal. I heard the new one's unreal. You been to the new one? It looks like an art museum. One game, turn me into a fan. I'm like, I could get down with that.

I'm going to go back for family, trips all the time. I can see some games. And it's close enough too. Oh, man. And the atmosphere in there is electric. Yeah. A friend of mine has, he's a season ticket holder. He lives in between Shelbrook and Saskatoon with cattle and whatnot, but he gets down there for

I don't know how many games a year, but you said it is otherworldly. But I'll say this. You don't have to, like, you go to any NFL game. I've been, I went to school in Wisconsin. We went to a Green Bay game, and Green Bay was just as fun. I'm sure. I'm sure that anywhere you go.

If you're going to be a Vikings fan, you can't say that. Just, you know. Cheer for the green bit. NFL is a whole different level than any other sporting event. True. It is true. Yeah. But Tom Brady, I was trying to wrap my head around this because he's, for football,

he's like Tiger Woodsy Golf kind of thing, right? He's been that talented, that good a team, Belichick, Patriots, whatever you want to go down. But 20 years, six Super Bowls. how many damn appearances nine nine nine why the hell would you go anywhere why would you go anywhere

30 million reasons fuck off no that's not it he wants to prove he still got it he wants to prove he still got it that's part of it but also 30 million dollars the paths can't pay him that helps but I think this is his way to say

like you underpaid me all these years I put in my time I'm taking the most money I'm going to show you that I can still win which he's not and showing bellichick he can win right a little bit a little bit You know, because him and crap have a real good relationship.

It's funny because I think it works on both sides is that you have guys and say, well, Belichick never would have won with him go Brady. You have guys said Brady never would have won with Billichick. And it's not as well Brady's taken a massive flyer on this. He's going to a team that was third last season in points. They were first in passing yards. It was their...

And that's their... ...that had as many interceptions as T's stolen crab legs, yeah. That's the facts. It's facts. No, it's a good team. Like he's got a legit shot. But there's definitely, I think, anytime you work,

think about, Antonio Brown may be going as well. Yeah, I heard that. Settled down. It's an interesting thing. Brady really liked him. Brady was really upset that they let him go, even after all that stuff.

Regardless, I think Belichick and Brady being together so long, I think they're both so good at what they did. I think they obviously warn each other after a while. I think the respect's probably there, but both them at some point, you hear enough noise of like, it's all Belichick or it's all Brady.

I got a few. You get six Super Bowls. You played for a team for 20 bloody years. Why not just be like, you know what? I got two more years. I'll give it to you. Hang up as an absolute legend. That is a, and I respect the hell out of it,

but that to me feels like a hockey player mentality. I don't think you have that in other sports. I don't think you do. That's why I love Tom Brady. Everything he's done up until this point has been like almost hockey player-esque on a different level. Yeah. The only other guy I can think. of off the top of my head is Steph Curry.

He'll be the only other guy to play his whole career for one franchise and be like a marquee player, right? But NBA's a little different when you're making $30 million a year every year. Yeah. Right? Brady's still, he's still going to make his money, but what did Brady get last year? It was 17 or something?

Something like that. It was really low. It was low, but it's nice that he's gotten a good race so he can finally get by. And let's be honest, how much did he make on endorsements? 10 million? He doesn't need the money.

Yeah. He doesn't need the money. But this is so that now he's worth what every other QB is worth, right? I think. Like it's part of his, it's got to be ego, part of it. That's what I figured you would get. Yeah. It's got to be ego.

And every athlete has that ego. Oh, that's what he's great. Yeah, it's the ultimate feather in his cap if he wins there. I personally am not, we've discussed this before. Pat's Brady fan. I respect it. I respect Belichick. I just dislike them.

I'm a Steelers. guy, I just, they make me want to puke. It is what it is, though. It makes for a great storyline. For the NFL, great storyline. Tom Brady's career earnings is $230 million. Oh, he beat me. And last year he made...

You still got a time. Last year it says he made... 23 million. 23, so I was off, yeah. So it's not that big of a raise. Well, that might have been... $27 million. Oh, yeah, yeah.

That's right, because it was... The whole money thing makes no sense to me. It doesn't make any sense. It shouldn't at this point It shouldn't It means nothing to them Guys sitting on a stack of Fricking dollar bills

Bigger than what's the duck Donald Donald Is it Donald? No not Donald's Scrooge Who's sorry McDuck Wrong cartoon

Yeah it's not like this is a Ray Bork Brought in now I like this We're digging deep But like it's not like Ray Borg Chasing a championship You got you got it He needs nothing else He got immortality in football

You're gonna put a bloody Statue of them in front of that stadium The ridiculous thing And I don't know if there's fact to it or not. But I've been told that as a model, Giselle has far surpassed him in career earnings. I've heard that. She's over 300 million or some dang thing.

Which is insane. Like three or four years ago, I think. Her year was like 105. No, man, I hope you're looking up the earnings, not the pictures right now. No, no. Google image isn't going to work on that. I would be quite all right if you looked up the images.

That's no problem. notice he hasn't talked for a while here fellas yeah that phone's not getting turned around you're not going to edit this part you're right money money shouldn't be the deciding factor for a tom brady but i think it's got to be a factor when they offer him 30 and the pats aren't going to go to that point i had heard that robert craft was willing to go to that point oh really yeah no way bellichick would

today i read an article that was that was the opposite that said they wouldn't get to that they wanted him to take a discount well and that could have been bellichick's point of view right and but craft and well he finally like i'll I mean, trash was the reason they got rid of Jimmy G. Yeah. Like, that's the reason Garapolo went to San Francisco for a second rounder that everybody thought was super cheap at the time and now everybody wants San Francisco to end up. Jimmy G.

What do you, what do you got? Well, I'm stuck in the pictures. Oh, nice. It says that, like, one year she made, in 2016, she made 30 mil, so she would have made more than Tom Brady, but I'm trying to find career earnings, which it doesn't want to. It says her net worth. is $180 million. And with the couple's combined total wealth being $580 million.

So you do the math there and tell me who's making more money. But are you factoring in what the stock market has done lately on the coronavirus? Like, they're barely scraping by it $500 million probably. Yeah, you see people around here and they're looking at their portfolios and the losses that they've taken. It's tough. Yeah. That $5.38 might only be $4.20. $405 even.

Who knows? How do you get by? You've developed a life standard. Now you've got to try to maintain that? We talked about what ifs here. The ultimate what if we focused? What if Gronk? Yeah.

What if Gronk would have stayed, would Brady have stayed? So if Grunk played and was coming back, because I actually think Brady would never have left if Grunk didn't retire. Do you think so? I just think there was something about him having him as like an outlet all the time. Well, is somebody you just threw the ball to any kind. Yeah, it was always your bag. I know he was wearing gown, but I think if he was still.

there at least it gives Brady a tool. I can't see those two personalities as being that tight. I think Tom Brady would rather have healthy respect. Yeah, I think it was like a, for sure, but at the same time, like a big brother, little brother, like the little brother's idiot. Like your little brother that takes the short bus. Yeah, exactly, exactly. I don't know, can I say that? Tom Brady,

Tom Brady likes to win. That's the thing. That's true. That's true enough. And that was his thing. You can put up with a lot of BS to get big rings on your fingers. Can he win with Tampa Bay? No. I don't think they can win. I think Bruce Ariens was the reason more than anything that he went there. I think... The biggest thing they need to do is add some defense to stop stuff coming at you. They need an old line too because he's become a statue at this point. I heard one of my buddies the other days talking about,

well, they've got such great weapons on the outside. He can't hit those weapons. He's up the middle. That's why he needed a gronk more than anything is because he needs that guy. Now, they got O.J. Howard, but Bruce Ariens doesn't like to use the tight end that much, so are they going to start using the tight end more? Is he going to get the type of protection that he needs? Not only they get Howard, but they got up for nothing.

Well, they drafted O.J. Howard. Oh, sorry, I'm thinking of the other guy. Where'd he go to? From the Texans. Oh, DeAndre Hopkins. Hopkins, Howard. I don't watch enough of that. That's like about hockey again.

Well, I want to go back to the point, though, about with them breaking up. This reminds me so much, and we all live through it. And the documentaries coming out, hopefully sooner now that everybody's kind of pushing for it, is the 98 Bulls. Oh, my God. And how they broke up. And it's kind of the same thing, man. where just ego is clashed

and egos got to the point where they couldn't coexist anymore that's the reason Michael Jordan retired the second time around first time around maybe he was suspended secretly no that's suspended secret you got me that's oh you don't know the story on this I don't I hate with it

so if we want to get down that rabbit hole yeah let's go down this round the first time is that he had a lot of gambling debts and he was gambling a lot in the NBA finals and doing a bunch of other stuff so the conspiracy is that Jordan got asked to step away when he went and played baseball. And then when he came back with him and Phil and Kraus, the relationship really frayed because Phil was such a big figure. And Michael said at the end of that run, the second run, he said, I'll only play a Phil's here. And he said, no, Phil's not coming back.

So Michael's like, screw you, I'm retiring. That's how it all ended. And so it was, as he said, it was a bunch of egos. But the story, and it's well known that there was a lot of games. gambling that Jordan was doing at that time in casinos and card games, and I think he might have got himself in hot water over it. Text Clark and ask. Clark, if you're listening.

Just get Jordan to come on, you know, then we'll find out first hand. That's the story. Did you hear the story that Ronick told about Jordan? No. I got to think of what it was during the late 90s. Ronick got suspended for the story, obviously, right? It was on the same chat. But he told the story about going golfing with MJ,

day of, and it might have been the game before the flu. Right, because I have heard someone talk about this, because he's super tanned or something. So they went golfing the day before, and he said Jordan drank, I don't know, like on game day, morning of, drank a ton of beer. And JR was like, well, like, what are you doing?

They finished off 18 holes. Rona took a couple bucks off of them and MJ's like, let's go double or nothing. Or something along those lines extends the bet to get his money back. So Michael Jordan played 36 holes that day, played that night, and put down 35 or some damn thing.

I did hear this story. Ridiculous. I've got the detail entirely wrong, I'm sure. I did hear the story because someone on the bench says if you watch that game, Jordan's skin's way darker than the night before because he played 36 holes, like how dark his skin looks, because he was just in the sun all day baking,

and he played 30. I did hear the story, and I heard it on two different podcasts somewhere about Jordan playing 36 before a playoff game. I didn't hear the beer part. I just heard that he was out in the sun all day. Yeah, probably drank a dozen beer, golf 36 holes, played that night. And put down 35.

And put down 30-something. Yeah. But he was a freak, right? You watched that documentary on the dream team. He'd play cards until three or four in the morning, and then get up and go to practice and golf, and everyone else was like, how is this guy doing?

He was like he was just a robot. Yeah, he definitely wasn't LeBron in terms of his conditioning. Like, it's insane what he did when you hear all those stories, right? But that's just, this Pat's thing just so reminds me of that. I was such a diehard NBA fan at that time.

And, yeah, no, we're still talking about the Bears. Well, we can talk old school bulls? That'd be terrific, actually. If we just did that for the next three hours, can you? Well, I'm interested about the NBA. Oh, three hours is probably not near enough. Because with the NBA, they're the sport that's had all their players tested, right? Like, this is the problem is, this one game is now a bunch of guys,

and now all the Nets are testing positive because they've been hanging out to the KD and all those guys. And obviously, testing positive isn't the worst thing, right? Lots of people are going to surprise. But it's just one of those things. They say by the end of it, 30 to 70% of us are going to test positive. Yeah, and if you look at the demographics in North America right now, they keep saying, like, this is an old person's disease, the people that are testing the highest is between 30 and 54.

Yeah. Right. So that's, we're sitting in that range. But it's interesting with basketball. It's a contact sport. You're always touching people. I'm always sweating on people.

Hockey, you're touching people. At least you have clothing on except for your face. That's why I'm so shocked that even with no fans, the UFC and the WWE would do it. Because where do you have more contact, more fluids exchanged than when you've got a guy wrapped around? choking your neck. You've got like orifice is touching and you're not supposed to do that for regular good hygiene,

let alone you've got the worst virus ever. Yeah. And you're leaking everything all over each other. Well, I would assume their insurance policy is being fixed up right now. And that's the problem. I think with all these sports right now is, do you think there's something in the insurance policy for players and owners about epidemic virus? Like there's no way.

There's no way there's anything. So this is what they call force majeure. Such a touchy subject. It's a proper term, by the way. I know. I know. Spanish? French, I blink.

Or Latin. Latin. Thank you. Yeah. It's force of God, nature, whatever that is. Anyways, this is why I think hockey's got the best shot of coming back first. I actually think hockey can come back before. Why can't the PJ?

I think PJ could go. Ever since I heard the PJ tour, I'm like, you know, I think you could probably have the PJ tour run tomorrow. Have no caddies. Have them caddied their own damn club. That ain't happening. You know what that's happened? No.

Why? Not over a four-round weekend. The extra fatigue of lugging your bag and everything else. Oh, God. Stop it. Plus, how would Rory and some of the boys know which shot to make? Which club to use? You're absolutely right.

They know the course and everything, but their caddy has that green map. And I'm maybe the bigger golf nerd out of the four of us. It seems that way. The caddy is out. They have that green walk. They have everything. haste off. They know...

So what you're saying is we wouldn't see the best golf if we had no fans there. With no fan... With no faddy and stuff? With no caddies, you'd see some... Well, you'd see good golf. Don't get me wrong. But not nearly to the same level. Every one of those caddies is there a couple days beforehand.

And they know, okay, Rory's hitting his seven iron X far. This bunker is that far to this part of this part of the green. That green's going to slope this way. The only way the PJ could come back in the next like month and slide under the radar is if you had no caddies, you were the only guy... even if there was two of you golfing a hole, you can't go anywhere near each other because you can't have people touch it in the same bloody things.

Yeah. Now is your turn on the green. I'll get up there when you're finished. That's right. Right? It'd be super isolated. I think one of the biggest reasons why they pull it is optics. Oh, yeah.

If everybody else has canceled, everything in the world, it looks. Yeah, you can't be the guy. It looks pretty entitled. That's still going. So I give NBA a lot of credit to like being proactive and saying, I do think Adam Silver it's the most proactive commissioner.

He proved it with Donald Sterling. Yeah, just shutting it down right away and saying, hey, and even his statement today saying like, nothing until we know further, this is a changing subject. Well, and even Betman said that they knew as soon as any player in any professional sports league tested positive, everybody was done. Yeah.

They knew immediately it was going to take one guy, one guy only, and it just happens to provide a lot of humor and fuel that he also touched every microphone and cell phone on the desk on his way out of the interview the day before. It's just unbelievable. That couldn't be more perfect. But they knew that as soon as any professional athlete tested positive, seasons were over. He's going to be known for the next hundred years as a guy.

You know what? Nobody knew who Rudy Goberra was before that. I did. Yeah. Please. I'm a Thai hard jazz fan. I'm a fan of the entire state of Utah. Not since John Stockton left. Donovan Mitchell.

Has anybody been a big Utah chance? He's a defensive player of the year. Shot blocker. Stockton with the sexy shorts. If you watch their game, you'll know which one he is. He's way taller than everyone else. Way taller. Don't get me wrong.

I realize NBA fans know who would be Gilberers. I knew the name. I couldn't have picked him out of a police lineup. But I knew the name. I couldn't. I knew the name. That's it. but now everybody knows Rudy Gilber.

Oh, yeah. He's a poster child. If he's smart, he's getting himself an endorsement deal with some sort of Purell something. Actually, I didn't think of anything like that. That is amazing. I would jump all over that. Where's my agent make me some cash right now? Purell doesn't need anything to know at this point.

I did notice before I came out here when you stop in the grocery stores, there's still a lot of stuff. There's not much meat, but all the cleaning supplies, that whole aisle is empty. It's day by day. I was in the store on Saturday, and I was shocked with how much stuff was still there, and there wasn't any massive concern.

I went back just because you need milk and a loaf of bread and that sort of thing just the other night, maybe last night. And like the rice aisle, empty. The pasta aisle, there were still some stuff there, but it was like the gluten-free crappy pasta. And then like dry cereal was cleared out. What was the other? Oh, the frozen vegetables.

Fast food in the frozen section. Frozen vegetables. You can't buy a bag of peas for the life of you. So if you've got a vasectomy scheduled, because bag of peas is priority number one. Thankfully, you don't. I don't anymore. I've got a great story for it.

We won't tell it on air. But the frozen vegetables, no moss. No, you're buying fresh, fellas, that's it. We should state for the audience, that I know that story because I was there. For his bisectomy. Is it bisectomy? Vasectomy.

I don't know. I've never had kids. He was not there. I'd like to make that very clear. Oh, right. It's just me and Raf Saeed in the entire waiting room. Anyway, let's move on. Don't edit this out.

Oh, no. If you haven't learned anything from my podcast, this is not getting edited out. So the fans are in for a real treat today. Oh, boy. Could the NBA go down to one game playoffs and do a March Madness and have it where you have a little training camp, walk in, and boom, you're in the playoffs,

maybe a tune-up game or I don't care what it is, and then roll with it? I mean, March Madness is electric. Electric. You do not have to be a basketball fan to watch March Madness. No. No, actually, it's like watching the Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

You can watch Book a Snooka University out of Wisconsin and Flim Flam College from wherever and it's the most exciting game on the planet. That's right. And those might be actual school names, I have no idea. How many people do a March Madness bracket

who've never watched a college game? Millions. Maybe their entire life, if not for sure, that entire year. Millions. It's a sheer randomness, right? One game, and I think that's the big thing when you watch the randomness of basketball right now with the three-point shot and how many shots or took and made or missed a game, we could play Team X seven times and we could beat them by 35,

five times. The next two games we could lose by 35 just on the shooting percentages. I think NBA, because it's a contact sport, but it's not a violent collision sport, I think it would be ready to go quicker than hockey personally. And I think it lends itself more to the one-game playoff. and those of you guys that are familiar with Bill Simmons, he always has his theories of how you can do a tournament to play in, get more teams involved, more revenue, stuff like that.

So I think if anyone was going to figure it out, I would bet on NBA having one game playoffs to get in and then maybe going to best of fives. Or switching who has the home games is one of the things that always gets brought up. So it's a best of five, but the first four games are at the higher seat or something like that. So you make it not impossible, but next to impossible. But I think you could, in the NBA, if you take out the bottom, let's just say four teams, anyone could hang around with anyone on any given night.

I can't say the same. I haven't watched the bottom of the NHL, so I don't know. But I would assume if the bottom of the NHL is playing the top, the Bruins, it's probably not going to be a good game. Would be my bet. Who's the worst team in the NBA right now? Worstores team's got to be Atlanta Hawks. I think it's Golden State Warriors. Is it?

Yeah. I know what you're saying. But I just thought that was kind of ironic. Yeah. Golden State. And if you think about Golden State now with Steph Curryback, they could actually, they wouldn't hang around maybe with the top four in each division, but they'd probably hang around with the eight seats on a good night.

I'm just bust your balls. Bust the way. Complete left turn segment. Not complete left, because it's related. Sorry, it's your podcast show. I'm going to ask a question. Is it time? Denied.

Is it time to move out the three-point line in professional? professional basketball. You know how far that line is? I realize how far the line is, but I also see guys shooting the ball from center court effortlessly and draining it. It used to be so electric late in a basketball game. I watched a lot of basketball in the 90s, and it used to be so electric, games running down the final seconds, guy launches a ball from just inside a half, and it bounces a couple

times and it drops and the place blows up. Now LeBron's just hanging out on the logo, dropping shots like it's nothing. Like everybody's so much bigger and so much stronger than they used to be. The three point line now, I mean, you can't move it on the sides, obviously. No.

But the three point line now, it's almost laughable. How big of a shot was it when Kauai hit it and it dropped? Yeah. But, I mean, you can't move that spot. Oh, unless you have to stand on the bench to do it. But I've had this conversation with other people. The problem with the NBA is you're getting such a small like 0.1% athletes that make it to the NBA.

You're getting the biggest, strongest, fastest athletes. I know all pro sports are that way, but it is a global game. And so you're getting these guys. And now that the three-point shot is being pushed to these guys from college and high school, that's all they do. So in high school, they play with the same line that they do? No, high school's line is closer. So our Fiba line is really cool.

It's top of the key, right? Yeah, so U.S. It's hard to explain this. U.S. high school is top of the key. U.S. college females play a little bit inside of ours. We play at the same line. My wrestler women's play at the same line as NCAA men right now. And then a step back from that is NBA.

The corners are the same on the feeder line. Regardless, they all shoot this since they're like 10 years old. So if you go watch like an AAU game or like a team Sask or team Alberta, all those kids are doing a shooting threes because it's all the analytics. So because they shoot it so much, they're getting better. I would compare it to like if you put like a circle just above the top of the circle or somewhere between the blue line and like the hash mark, like halfway in between,

and you said that goal's worth two, how many times did you see guys shooting inside there? All the time. Well, yeah, but if they, like any shot that's two points, you're like, screw it, I'm going for that as much as possible, right? Especially if you get better at it, and as time goes on and people focus on it, and we've seen what happens with skills.

Yeah, if you move it out farther, guys are still going to shoot the same amount of threes because it's worth more. The percentages are going to go down, and I think the NBA is in a weird spot where, the scoring is up, the entertainment value is up, right? People love to see the scoring because that basketball, we all watch in the 90s that we loved.

You watch some playoff games, it's 65, 68, 78, 70. Good physical basketball guys getting killed, but there was only like one or two guys that was shooting threes. And I had to talk with a couple of former guys that said, like, when the first three point lines were coming out, guys could shoot it, but they just didn't know if they should shoot it. Game four, I think it was game four of the 1980 NBA finals. I think it was Michael Cooper from the Lakers hit a three,

and it was the only three of the series. Of the series, it went six games. Which is crazy, because now that you're looking at 30 or 43s a game. Exactly. It's insane. I will say right now, M&A is exciting to watch, but it's not fun to watch. I don't really want to turn it on and see you guys just shoot threes all you.

I would rather see college basketball right now. So could you eliminate the three-point ball until the last quarter? That's interesting. last five minutes of a quarter? Could you take away the opportunity? Or what if you only got to shoot so many? Like, what if there was a limit? So like a home run rule?

Yeah, slow pitch home run. I don't know. He's got to start passing. He's got to start passing. Tom Tom, Mock. No, you're right, though, because there's got to be something to bring it back. Like, it used to be for a big man to shoot a three was impossible.

Like, you go back, Tony Kukko did it, and that was an anomaly. Super skilled, though. Fantastic reference, I might add. pat yourself on the back I'm willing to do it I'm shameless and now

anybody and everybody is dropping threes and it's taking the magic out of that side of the game well it's the players have changed right you're not teaching kids to play inside anymore everyone's to play in the perimeter now I will say as a coach

teaching the spacing and that style of like cutting passing game is really fun like what you saw from Golden State the downside is when you get not skilled teams like the bottom of the league doing that shit, it's awful to watch. And that's in the NBA, so think about how that goes down each level.

Fair enough. I do rail you. I wonder, and I'm asking you this, I'm not saying this, but if they, you know what kind of brought this on more than anything that I felt anyway was the hack-check? 100%. This is the rule.

And I wonder if you just simply made it two shots in the ball for anybody who gets intentionally fouled, if that would bring back more of an inside game. I think so. I think they've done a little bit of a decent job with like the clear path foul in that sense. But the post game is this, I think you need to make, you need to make it worth more.

Or like if you get fouled inside the key and you make it, it's two plus two or something. Something to push. Because right now I have a book, it's like analytics of the NBA. And if you look at like how teams evolved, LeBron especially, and you look at his shot charts from like his first year, all the shot charts are around the rim, around the three point line. And everything in between that mid-range game that everyone used to, like that was an art, no one takes anymore because it's such a bad shot. There's a couple teams in the league that take those shots still because they think it opens up more layups. I think changing the rules, I don't know, do you go to a four-point line?

Does that help things? Like if you put another line back three feet, guys are still going to shoot that. You can't really take it out at this point. Yeah. Almost it's kind of become a problem across all sports, though, hasn't it? Maybe not every sport. It's true. But the athletes have gotten so talented.

And coaches have got so smart about how and where to best utilize everything and structure the game and techniques and strategies. Analytics. I'll give the one thing to basketball for sure is that, I mean, so much of it, in hockey, so much of things you can attribute to equipment. Right. You've got a stick that bends and snaps a shot like never before, right? You know where I'm getting with that down the road.

In basketball, it's purely the athlete. Their shoes are a little lighter. They're a little blinger. They might jump an eighth of an inch higher to get towards my vertical. They're all seven feet tall and can handle it and jump to the gym. Yeah, exactly. It's a guy in a ball. It's as pure an athletic sport as there is on the play.

maybe soccer i suppose if that's a sport um but but hockey you got guys who were as big as ever who can move like lightning who can just dance faster for sure it's got faster and more talented the bigger guys have never had more talent than they have right now oh absolutely but if you put i do get what you're saying if you put those guys with old uh what was the stick the titan stick with the plastic bottom in it if you gave those guys those sticks crosbie i'm not saying it wouldn't be good i'm just saying the shots wouldn't be quite as hard, right? Yeah. I think we could all...

Yeah. The passing maybe not quite as crisp. Al McKinnis found a way to make a woodstick whistle. But he also... But he also... What Al-Mikis would do today. Well, he kills somebody. Yeah.

Yeah. That's a fair point. It's a fair point. Let's talk about Ovechka, because I know that's where we're going. Ovechkin sits eighth overall in goals all time at 7.06, and Wayne Grexky is 894. Now, this has been a bit of a debate now for a few years, right? And everybody goes on, he's going to beat him or he's not going to beat him, whatever. But this coronavirus kind of, well, now he's lost out in a few games and some playoff games and everything else.

Does he make it? And maybe there's something more there to this, obviously, with the sticks and everything else I'm going to hear about. There's a chance he makes it. There's no chance that it makes him the greatest goal score that's ever played the game. You sure about that? Absolutely. Have you watched the goal 10? That's my thing.

That's my thing. I sure did. Before we started, I absolutely did. And you know what? Anything slap shot, the goalie spins around fully backward in the 80s. The goalies were not as good in the 80s,

but you know what? No, they were terrible. No, no question. They weren't, you wouldn't get them for a wreck goalie. That's fine. But Alex Ovechkin never had Daryan Hatcher water skiing behind them,

trying to get to that net. That is true, but I would say Ovechkin scores 90% of his, goals from that one spot where he just drills it in the same spot. And a lot on the power play. Do you remember, you probably don't remember the stat that I pulled up that day? You want to talk? Go ahead.

Well, no, no. I'm honestly asking, because I pulled it up when we were texting. The numbers were obscene, actually. How many are on the power play? He's got a lot more on the power play than Gratz had. A lot more. Like, I want to say percentage-wise, it was somewhere 30, 35% of Ovechkin's goals on on the power play.

And Gretzky was like 15 or 20%, maybe. Yeah, I want to say 17. When you look at greatest goal scores that ever lived, so often we get stuck on regular season stats because it's the fair line that everybody gets to work with. So you look at regular season stats, both guys are right around 0.6 goals per game. Correct, that is correct.

In the playoffs... I looked that up before I came. In the playoffs, Ovechkin scores a rate of 0.39 goals per game. That's a drastic drop-off. Wayne Gretzky, 0.59. goals per game in the playoffs. That to me matters. That to me matters a bunch.

Wayne Gretzky did it in an era with all the equipment, of all the bling, with Darian Hatcher and every other beast hacking and slime. That's what I said. On a five-time, Stanley, no, well, not five times, sorry. Four-time. Four-time voted the best team ever.

I will say he was surrounded with an all-l-l-star team. I just, he was. Let me ask you this question. Let me ask you this question, to be entirely fair. and it's worked for Ovechkin as well. But how many of those guys are all-stars without Wayne Gretzky? Well, I think

Mark Massey. Paul coffee. Yeah, sure. Absolutely. Absolutely. I can hear somebody yelling at the radio right now going, how about this guy, this guy? There's Anderson, low.

You tell me Anderson, come on. Anderson is not Anderson. But also, Ovechkin does the same thing to guys on his team, right? He elevates him as well. It works both ways, no doubt about it. Yeah, I'd say, no. Backstrom. Yeah, but Backcham's probably the only one every year you'd be like, yeah, he's an All-Star.

Right. Yeah. Right. I just can't get away. You can't compare generations ever, but you can't. When you watch those games on TV, it is horrifying. A fake slap shot, you can't stop it. Rapparound goals, there's like four games.

It's unbelievable. Well, it's all you've got on SportsNat right now. Yeah, but it's so tough to just watch that and say, because Kretzky was so far ahead of everyone else, right? What does Ovechkin have right now for games played? 1152 and Gretzky was 1487. Okay, so let me hit you with this then. So Ovechkin at 1152 has 706.

Correct. Wayne Gretzky at 1125, because I just went by seasons to get close to the same number. So 1125 games had 803. So Gretzky slowed down a lot. Gretzky his last number, absolutely, big drop-off. So Wayne Gretzky to get to a similar number. as Ovechkin's goals was 925 games.

That's 200, well, 200 almost exactly fewer to get to where Ovechkin is today. Ovechkin plays in a far less physical league. 100%. Granted, still has years ahead of them. That's not close. Come on. You're not that much better than me. No, I'm just, I'm going back to the, I'm going back right now Ovechkin plays in a way less

physical league, but I would say, Oveschkin, what is he, how many years is he in now? Since 0,5,06. The guy, the guy's impressive. They've had the Rocket Richard Trophy for 20 seasons. He's won at eight times.

Could have made it number nine this year. There's no doubt. He's very good. We've struck a cord. He is, because you know what? I think hand in your damn passports if you're disagreeing with me.

I don't think we can go anywhere, so we're good. We're quarantined. You can take mine for a, We're not arguing who's the better all-around player. No, no. I didn't get into all that. Who makes the better player, blah, blah, blah, blah.

I mean, Grexie speaks for himself. You're talking about the most pure goal score of all time. There's some argument there because he's sat. How about I give you this? I'll give you this. Ovechkin may be the best pure shooter of all time. He's not the best pure goal score. What if he surpasses him, though?

And you've got to think about a Vetchkin's diet of like vodka. He's going to surpass him with an extra 500. games. Does it matter? With a training regiment that the players have today with a dieter, which I realize Ovechkin doesn't follow all that. He's not on the diet or the training regimen. But it's well documented.

Greski hangs up his skates in May or June whenever the season ended. He put them back on the day he went back to camp in September. Right. They didn't have the workouts. And Ovechkin, while he likes his past and he likes to drink Pepsi out of his Gatorade bottle on the bench, he's working out. and I don't know if Wayne Gretzky knew where a weight room was. But I think that's a comparison thing, right?

Because if you look at what guys are doing nowadays, a Vetchikan's doing, let's be honest, far less than any other, any other other is probably doing to stay in shape. I would argue. I remember Pat Maroon, yeah. Yeah. Gretzky maybe did less back then,

but I would say Gretzky probably did about the same as every other athlete back in that day where season's over, it's done. We come in to training camp, you get yourself in shape. So, like, you can't compare the same. science behind the eating and physicality. I think from where Gretzky scored his goals from, from the gauntlet that he would go through to get said goals,

is far more impressive that a guy that sits on top of the face off circle and waits for long timers. Do we think that Gretzky got by the end of his career, let's even say like after the first part of his career, that he didn't get played the same way he would have been played if he was someone else? A little less physical, a little less clutching and grabbing on Gretzky than maybe some of the other players in the league got? Certainly. but you can watch the highlights

and you can see him cutting towards the front of the net. There's still guys with a hook around his ribs and he's getting tripped up certainly not to the same level because you've got Dave Semenko waiting in the wing to clean things up if you do. Right.

But at the end, again, I'll say, Ovechkin, best shooter ever? Maybe. Sure. I'll accept that. Best goal score? No. So we went back and forth.

Was it the first, was maybe the last Bobcats broadcast? We did. Close to it. something like that and then we texted about it about a week later so um shame did sway me because i'm with you guys that right i think it's ovechkin and i mean i'm wearing an oilers t-shirt for those of you at home live streaming this you can see that we're live streaming no no no no no no no so good thing because there's some mince and stuff going on anyway uh so i was with you guys

and i still am because there's one thing that stands out there's to me more than anything. But Shane did sway me, and I looked up the powerplay numbers, and the power play goals for me especially, they're a big deal to me. And I said, I can't remember what these, did you look up what the exact numbers were? I couldn't find it.

I was trying here, and I'm like, you know what? I could probably go back in our text. It's around 30% or so. It's sold this from somewhere, and I'm lost. If you're going to trust anybody with a number when it comes to sports, he's probably the guy. He's probably the guy. He says it. He's got it.

But, rain man for useless information. Now, when you say you'll give me the best shooter, not the best goal score. Yep. So when you're saying the best goal score, you're saying the most creative, what do you mean by best goal score? I mean, well, creativity is certainly a part of it. Gretzky still had a good shot. You didn't score everything from right on top of the crease. Because if you go creativity, I would give you that point.

But then I would bring in, well, I certainly love watching Sidney Crosby. I know he's not there in the amount of. goals but creativity finding ways absolutely and then as a shooter you think of like holl and sackick right well that's right and like well hall would have had ovechkin's blood hole and sacketticoe just i i watched a um a video years ago and they were talking about joe sackick and the story at the time this was not long after they went to colorado was that he would walk around in the offseason with a measuring tape and he knew that a hockey puck was three inches across

and he'd go around and he'd see something from across the room or whatever and you'd go yes or no and then he'd go up and measure it to know where that puck was going to fit because Joe Sackick wasn't the most powerful shot at him a little but he put it wherever that

he wanted to. No back swim. The best story or best lesson I learned from Sackick was shoot to miss the legs and score more goals that way and you and Foster were talking about that. Yes we were. Your best shots 11 inches off the ice right just over top of the pad and just over the top of the pad

And if you can't see the net, but you can make it miss, the goalie can't see it coming. Because, I mean, he's just a screen. Yeah. Follow up on that one. One of my buddies, Blake Ward, was in training camp when Sackick was there, and he said every time that you would open your arm, puck would just go, he said it just made you look stupid.

Just every time you would slide one with spotted, and he was almost like toying with you at that point. He said it was just like unbelievable to like. Yeah, the goalie's trying to beat you. Yeah, like you're just trying to move. And he's making you look like a fool. Exactly. Anyways.

One of my buddies, Tyler Wyman, would have been in a similar camp, but he's never told me any stories about it, so I can't. I'm spout. Jesus. I know a guy. It was actually my roommate. The only reason I thought of that is because Ty is blown up my phone right now. They're right in the same time period.

They're both in the system at the same. Darren Pang has a great line, and Darren Peng, he says it all the time. He says, Grets always told me, not the name drop. I found the numbers that we were talking about. Give it to it. It's even bigger, but Gradskis are bigger, too. That's what she said. 44% of Ovi's goals have been on the public.

What was it? 44%. That's a high number. That's a high number. And how many of Gratskys? 22.8. That's a tough pillus. This is what I was going to say, though.

But that goes back to the best shooter. I'll give you that. Can we say that because there wasn't that many penalties back then? There was more, or wasn't it? I don't know. I don't know. It seems to me like you saw with 300 pims in a season.

Those are all fighting pimms. Well, it helps. But if you go analytics guys and I'm not an analytics guy, you hate me already, I can see it. But you hated me before this. Yeah, a little bit. So, if you go analytics guys

and they go their score adjusted to the era, they've got Ovechkin first. They've got, I think, Gratsky's like four. You know what? If I try hard enough. Yeah, but don't do score adjust.

If I try hard enough, I can create a stack. These are people much smart. Harder than me crunching the nose. I know, but you can, nerds. Anytime you take generations, right? Yeah.

You toss Gordy Howland today's hockey. Sure. I don't even know where he fits because that type of player is a dinosaur. Is a dinosaur. I mean, he's still probably very good, right? Mr. Hawkees is Mr. Hawkey. Let's be very clear. But you stick some of the snowflakes back in the old days.

They wouldn't adjust either. They'd take a two-hand and Goudreau be laying on the other. crying and they'd have them out of the league in about three minutes gotta get a dig on the flames on this podcast appreciate that yeah do we have any flames fans in here no i see an oil oil there's shirt oh oh oh poor flames leaves who tough times everyone's in the same boat right now yeah hit in the reset everyone's hitting the reset button okay well we've been going for a while I got two quarantine questions for you before I let you go, and that'll be the end of it,

because we could probably sit here until 4 in the morning, and I don't know who would continue listening. Somebody out there would. Yeah, nobody has a long trip to listen to this on the plane anymore. No, they're sitting around trying to forget about their kids, painting their fingernails, yes. Preach, man, preach. He talked like someone had that happen to them.

I don't think. Every time Kinger starts talking, I look at his. I know, it's so distracting. He's got five. Five fingers all painted different colors. On each hand, it's really something. You got a lot of weird looks at the grocery stores. This is what I'm not cut out for motherhood boys.

It's not for me. My wife's the saint. Give us these questions. Okay. So going into quarantine or social distancing, has there been anything that you've been doing to help pass the time? You want that on the podcast? Oh, geez.

I'll tell you that. What's your listenership with women and children? That's why you bought all the toilet paper, hey, soups? Tube socks. All I'm going to say is, man, that porn hub premium is sure looking good to buy. I haven't gone there just yet, but I'll tell you. It's tempting. It's tempting.

I'm for sure getting a call from my mother now. Yeah. I'm very sorry, Mrs. Nimman. I'll hit you up with an honest one. A lot of old game tape has been like that late night thing for me is like old game tape, which is the worst thing for a coach to watch is old game tape. So looking at what we can do different. I hope this ends soon because there's a point as a coach,

and I'm sure you guys all get there where you start going down a rabbit hole and I'll watch our game tape and then I'm watching EuroLeague old games and then I'm watching a coach's clinic from like 1997 in Europe. It's bad news. It's bad news. So I've been studying up. There's going to be some crazy stuff at Lakeland next year. While I got you talking, how tough was it to not get to go to nationals?

Because you were a guy sitting in the room who was... Yeah, you missed on something. Okay, well, first off, a lot of kids everywhere, male and female, missed out on stuff. I told the girls at least they got to win their championship. At least we got to win ACACs. I think the hardest part was that we won. you know we stayed we celebrated we came home we have a day off we start training we're starting to focus towards nationals and we're we're building towards another 10 days together this has been

our whole year to practice longer than everyone else to get ready for this then to have the pin pull that it was devastating i don't want to be selfish because i know everyone feels that way it was devastating for me devastating for the girls the one i had the toughest time was was our fifth year brian her got So in her first year, she got to go to nationals and win nationals and never played a second, never stepped on the floor. She transferred to us and played her last three years. First team all conference player for us, first team all-star at provincials. She was on the floor when we won, the most excited player. And I was most proud of her seeing how she came as an athlete and kind of gave the speech,

and now she gets to finish her career on the national floor. So that was like the toughest one to know that her last game actually happened without her knowing it. So I was really upset with that And I think our team was But then I realized This is just like almost every athlete everywhere They didn't realize their last game There's so many stories

So it turns into the old coach talk Is this is a lesson And you can't take anything for granted It can all be taken away from you In a blink of an eye Which it literally was But to win that first championship For basketball at Lakeland

Amazing to not go It'll be haunting until we get there for sure Especially for this group The team had come together nice It was tough Let's move on from this before I get emotional. That's not my second question, I hope. I tried to do something similar, actually.

I went back on to hockey TV. I don't know why. I haven't done it since, but I went back to 2016 RBC. I wanted to watch the final game. I haven't watched it since. Trevor Redden had the play-by-play. Did a fantastic job. I did subpar color with him.

I wanted to watch the game. Because he and I had a conversation, long ago and he was running through stuff through that game and I was like man I remember nothing which which is my greatest flaw I don't the game is over I might know the score 30 minutes later but I don't know every fine detail as it went down and I really wanted to go back and watch that game I know that we lost the bobcats lost in the final and we lost handily but I also know that we got beaten by an amazing goaltender like absolutely stonewall so I wanted to go back and watch that so I go on to hockey TV and They've got every game except for the final game.

Really? Would it be on YouTube? Well, there's clips. TSN had it. That's the problem. On YouTube, it's the TSN feed. I don't want to hear TSN. I want to hear Trevor Redd.

Now the play-by-play voice. Shout out to Trevor Redd. Fantastic human being. Best top five play-by-play guys in the W.H. I thought you're going to say top five in Lloydminster. And he will hit the airwaves with us here at some point. I mean, have a fat talks. I like it.

Great guy. He's a good chat. So I wanted to watch that. I got snubbed on that. So I played a lot of Call of Duty. That's a good turn. That's fully honest. As I said, I'm a 40-year-old with the mind of an 83-year-old because I'm a curmudgeon, but I'm a child at the same time. It's a very confusing time to be alive for me.

I played a lot of Call of Duty the last week. If you could buy stocks and two things right now, sadly, it'd be video games and probably porn hub, right? I mean, I've been looking for a PS4, like nobody's business. My wife won't let me go buy one, but I've been looking for an excuse to get back into gaming, and I'm like, MLB the show came out, and I'm texting guys, I'm like, hey, do you have a PS4 I can borrow? Did you see the news about the PS5? No. Well, they're talking about it.

Yeah, PS5. Yeah, it comes out in November. Yeah, PS5. I mean, that'll be a giant. So you're telling me I can get a PS4. Oh, you get a whole of equipment now, yeah. As for this guy, what have I been doing? So all the gyms are shut down.

Yeah. Everything is just shut down. Everybody knows it. Everything is shut down. Fun time's over. So wife gets that beach body whatever. Oh, 30-day plan or what do you want? 21-day fix.

Oh, okay, yeah. And she's like, you want to do this with me? And I'm like, yeah, sure. You know, what the hell? Yeah, let's do it. We're in day three. We did day three before I came here. I can't miss a day.

So we knew this was happening. We got home. We're doing it. The kids are three kids under four. Yeah. We got the baby laid on the floor. We got two kids running around us. And it's supposed to be 30-minute workouts.

I don't know what that lady's called, but I call her Janice. Janice fucked me today. She goes, 30-minute workout. We get to the end of it. We're in like the last two minutes. We're stretching. I'm feeling great. And she goes, oh, by the way, did I mention we got 10-minute bonus abs today for you?

And I'm like, I want to throw something at the TV. And then we get done that. She goes, ah, we got one more bonus for you. And she gives us another minute. I'm like, you know, I just, it says 30 minutes. Yeah. 30 minutes. This is what I committed to.

Day three. I got 18 more days to go, boys. That's what, that's my hobby right now. Yeah. That sounds awful. So it's something that. Corona hits and you've got 30 minutes plan per day. That's true.

It's a nice, on the positive side, it's a stress reliever because you just, nobody's getting enough anything right now. No human interaction. No physical, right? Like, I mean, you got to find a way to pass the hours, right? Well, I'm going crazy. Get an Xbox. Here's the, here's the, he can't play the show on Xbox. Yes, you can.

Last one, last one, 19 you could. Oh, the new one's not. What's the new one? 20, 20. The show 20 is coming out. And you can't play it on the Xbox? Apparently not. I didn't know.

I was doing some deep Googling. This one wasn't released on the Xbox. PlayStation has an earlier release date. It's been that way even for Call of Duty in a number of games. At the same time, Xbox hasn't really a release date on other stuff. Screw it. I got a couple more questions now. Run with it.

Okay. So, not that any of us could go see a movie right now because movie theaters are done, but if a movie could be, instead of going into theater, theater straight to your TV, but you have to pay call it 30 bucks. So now you can get a brand new movie. With the movies coming out in 2020

slated or into the future, what movie would you buy tomorrow? I know that one. Oh, fire away. Soup's hit on it already. That Jordan documentary that's supposed to be seven hours long? Does that count as a movie? It counts as a movie. Yeah, sure. Because I think they're released, I don't know where

they're releasing in June. It's supposed to come out in June. I would be watching that over over and over again because I'm not up to date on movies either. You're going to make me sound child. Anyways, that's mine. Like, we're talking about a current movie or one coming out shortly? Well, my brain skips to two. I'm a huge fan of Christopher Nolan.

So anything he does, he did Inception, the Batman trilogy, Interstellar, Momento, Memento, Dunkirk, yes. Right? Dunkirk was fantastic. And he's got a new movie coming out called, Tenant. It's supposed to hit theaters this summer. It looks fantastic. Now I don't even know what the hell is it. What is it?

Tenant? Yeah, I don't think I've heard of it. T-E-N-E-T. Look it up. Look up the trailer for it. It looks fantastic. It looks like the ability to maybe reverse time, but a sci-fi thriller, I would say. Great cast. It looks like a great script, and it's total full, you know, Christopher Nolan written all over. So if I could see that tomorrow and I had to pay $30,000, boom, done. But I go, I'm a Dark Night fan.

I've been a Batman fan since I was a kid. And the new Batman, I can't figure it off if it's going to be any good or not. Yeah, that's a big question mark. Well, have you seen... It's the Twilight guy or some damn thing, is it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that seems on. You know what, though? Every person says that after Twilight, I can't believe I'm defending this guy.

I can't wait to hear this. that he's done indie films and that kind of thing and he's actually a well-rounded great actor. So that, you know, maybe he slides in. Here's what I can't believe. I like it better than them putting George Clooney or somebody in there, right? That's fair. Here's what I can't leave.

I'm going to say, Twilight wasn't terrible. Oh, my. No, Twilight was terrible. I have a 12-year-old daughter. I have a wife. So you've got fingernails painting. Your time's coming, son. I don't want to hear a thing at you.

They can hear the twilight. Man, this conversation got direct. Donnie Ackinson, who was planning to be here this evening, will stand behind me on that. Also, I mean, I'm not seeking it out. I'm not looking to find it and watch it. I'm just saying, as Edward, he wasn't terrible. Cameron's 12, right? Yeah.

Those movies came out more than 12 years ago. Well, she's watched them since, though. I don't know. I think you're saying. saying that you watch them in theaters when they came out. I might have watched one in theaters. Again, I have a wife. So let's go back to the original question.

You got nothing that you'd be like, I'd skip to that? Because I have to nail it down to something. Well, what's coming out in the next little while? Again. The new Top Gun movie? Ooh, New Top Gun will be good. See, I think watching New Top Guns are watching Old Top Gun. And I watch Old Top Gun every Sunday.

Follow my Twitter feed. It's commented on regularly. I've seen it. I've seen your Twitter feed in terms of that. Sorry about that. I might go back a month just because I missed it and watched 1917. Ooh, we saw that in theater. That was literally the last date night I had with the wife.

We went to the theater because we had all three kids looked after, which is tough enough. Amazing. And we didn't know what to go see. That's a lot of NyQuil. That's right. And in the theater was like a bunch of junk, and I looked up all the ratings he's in 1917 and I'm like,

I don't want to go to see a one movie but ah, screw it. And it was, it was fucking fantastic.

That's what I hear. It was so well done. That's the one. It's first person, right? It's shot from first person and a single shot. It's continuous filming,

even though it's supposedly not continuous filming, but it makes it seem like, you know, you watch a movie. Next time you're watching a movie, see how many times it switches behind,

yeah, They cut. They go behind one person's head to the next person's head, back and forth, back and forth, right? They don't film, or even if they film a full scene where people talk. This literally was the slowest, fastest movie I've ever seen, where they're just walking, but they never stop and cut. They just... Yeah. Apparently, like, you can't shoot the movie all in one shot because they're changing locations and traveling hundreds of miles.

But apparently, from location to location, this is our scene, and it's... It's one shot all the way through. And if that shot's supposed to be 15 minutes long, and they got to 14 minutes and 45 seconds, and somebody stumbled on something, or boom, Mike comes down into the picture, or whatever the heck happens on a movie. I have no idea.

It's cut, and we go back to step one. Oh, my God. And we roll through the entire thing until it was perfect from scene to scene to scene to scene. And that, to me, is incredible. Plus, I'm a war movie guy. It went on saving Private Ryan any day of the week, and I'm locked in.

And it wasn't like your typical war movie where there's, you know, tons of killing and gore and everything. It was literally, like, part of it is just dialogue. These two guys walking, right? And then they, but it's the ground and terrain they go through that is, and the special effects, right, that it's in it, that is so fantastic. And, yeah, 1917, that's a great pick. All right, soups.

That or it's going to be some Marvel thing because, again, I'm a child. I don't know. Well, the Marvel Cinematic Universe is fantastic, and I can't figure out we're going to go down a deep. rabbit hole why DC can't figure that out for me is life me why can't somebody why can't somebody just sit in the DC and go listen Marvel's made an absolute ungodly amount of money yeah okay this is the recipe you start up here and you have a point and you go over here yeah DC goes no no no we just want to be over here so they go make a couple of movies that are terrible yeah and I love DC

and I think they have a great cast of possibles yeah but they don't go over here and over here is just like start with the Batman yeah start with a couple of you know the Aquaman and start with a couple and just build your story and eventually in 15 years you're at or further where Marvel is but hey that's a whole different road that's been a DC issue there the entire existence of Marvel's always kind of been big brother in DC trying to keep up and having characters

that are sort of similar to a Marvel character yes and but you're copying and it's not it's never going to be as good when you're just trying to well we don't have Spider-Man but we got well web guy you know it just doesn't work that way and so they've got unfortunately a lot of offshoot characters it could be fantastic stories that they've just never gotten good at telling the story well and just being okay to just tell their story and not to compete with marvel somewhere marty britain is driving right now laughing and slapping his knee because we have this conversation all the time okay soaps i'm going to get to what would you pay money to go see well or have

come to your home we kind of already hit on it by the way i think I think universal? If it wasn't a rumor, it's come out that they are going to try to do that with their movies. Just universal. Just straight to you being able to buy it. Yes. Now, how far in advance? I'm not sure.

I would think they'd make a killing, though, wouldn't they? Well, I don't know. Box offices make a bunch of money. Do they? Oh, God, yeah. But what if they, instead of charging you five bucks to get it live on your TV, it was 30? Well, that's, well, I'm sure. And they got to get a huge cut.

And it's a movie night in your house. home because you can't leave your home. Yep. I mean, I guess it's relative. But at the same time, it takes me the theater experience. I'm okay taking the wife and the kids to the movie.

The four of us costs us $85. We'll see Frozen or whatever it is. We didn't see Frozen in the theater. We saw it last night. I did. Amazing. It's an amazing cinematic piece. My daughter, cried.

Snowman dies. Yeah, she cried. Yeah. Spoiler alert. But I guess if it's, my first thought, is if you're going to charge me $30 to watch in my house, I'm not interested. Okay, then put it this way.

But if the NHL playoffs came on tomorrow and they said you've got to pay $10 a game to watch or whatever the number is, would you pay it? Potentially. Not potentially. I'd be like, yeah, fuck, here's the winning. I honestly think that the virus knows this. You know what? I love sports.

I love playing them. I love being there live. I watch next to nothing on TV anymore. I don't know why. It just, it doesn't. Playoffs, you must watch playoffs. I watch playoffs. I watch more in the playoffs than I do in the regular season.

But for me to sit down and watch 60 minutes of a hockey game, bumper to bumper, that game better be real good right away. Or I just lose interest. I change the channel out to commercial. And I struggle to get back to it sometimes. You know, I just, I don't know what it is. I consider myself a sports guy. And I like to think that I know some stuff.

Obviously, we've learned tonight that I don't. but I know some stuff and I enjoy the game love the game but to watch it on TV when I spend as much time in the rink as I do which is a bunch to go from live to a TV it just doesn't translate for me I was begging for a TV last week at the oil game and the two jackass jets fans that were sitting behind us

did not make it a very fun evening so but if you're talking about say ADHD like we have been known too frequent, then yeah, obviously. And by the way, everybody listened to us on hockey TV when we get back up and running. But at the same time, going down to the Civic is a lot more enjoyable than watching the broadcast that sometimes cuts in and sometimes cuts out. What was your movie? I think you hit it on the head, though.

I think we're on to, this virus is going to push us ahead like 10 years into the way of the future in terms of movies at home and stuff. Like even just looking at some of the things that are happening at the college, everything's going to like online meetings and group chats and stuff and stuff that probably should have been happening already where a lot of people don't need to be in their office working. You can get everything at home. And we're already heading that way with the streaming services. But if you have movies at home that I can rent and not go out,

I'm going to tell you right now I will not be going out for that. I will sit at home and make a bag of popcorn. It's worth a tradeoff to be honest. I can understand that in a lot of places, but a hat tip to the good folks at May Cinema. and I travel for work. I'm all over the map. I'll go to movies by myself.

What else am I going to do? You're that guy. In Red Deer on a Wednesday evening by myself, right? I'll go to a movie on my own. If there's something out that I want to see that I know my wife doesn't want to see, I'll go watch it. A big part of the movie experience is the popcorn. You've got to have good popcorn. It's a law.

Don't say it. No. Movie trailers are the best thing in the damn world. You've got to eat. That's the only knock. On a home movie, they got to just have those on the front of them. My wife hates me because I'm like, we got to show up at like 20 minutes before. Oh, yeah.

I'm sitting here in the dark room waiting. Absolutely. And my entire in-laws are staring at me. Like, why are we sitting here? But phones are beautiful because you can pass that time in a blink of an eye. But what I was getting at is an amazing upgrades that they've done in the Lloyd Minister as well. But their popcorn is second to none. It is better than any movie theater popcorn in any major cineplex, any,

any silver city any of that stuff. You might be earning May cinema some business. For whatever reason, I seem to know it's popcorn. Seems to know it's popcorn. And you know what? I noticed, look at me. Hey, I'm going to. But I know it was probably 10 months ago. They changed their popcorn.

I sent a sternly worded letter. It's like, what is this? I won't be back until you fix your crap. You did not send me. I did. I sent a note. So I get mad about very few things. Far fewer than I used to.

I used to be angry all the time. But now they're, I've got certain buttons and I'm a creature. Again, 83-year-old man in a 40-year-old body. I like what I like. I don't like change. Don't like a Vetchkin's scoring goals. I don't like a Vetchkin's score and goals.

I don't mind it. I just don't think, give him the credit that you want to. But I like things being the same. So I go to, I can't remember what movie it was. And I went and I had popcorn and it was different. That's not right. maybe it's me maybe i ate something earlier today maybe my taste buds are a little bit off how much popcorn do you eat to know that why don't you know that everybody who knows me right now is at home going

yeah nodding yeah he's that mental um go back a second movie popcorn's different still and it's exactly how it was the last i'm like no they have changed the formula something is off if it's the kernel if it's the oil if it's the butter here here's where i'll save you Anybody you remember when Arby's way back when had their iced tea and they changed? Am I the only anomaly here? I'll hit you with a better one. McDonald's got rid of the orange drink. Yeah.

Actually, that's a pretty good one too. What did schools do to certain people? No dice on the Arby's ice tea. I didn't get the ice tea. The orange drink I got a lot. I remember the other references in my head. You remember when Arby's and Lloyd had that ice tea maker? It was unbelievable.

And then they switched it out and you're like, what are you doing? Yeah, what have you done in my life? Yeah, I actually, you know what? I'm on his side here. I never thought he'd win me over on Pop-Card. And on the orange drink thing, I remember clearly, I went through the drive-thru. Can I get an orange pop? No, I was, I was, I'll get a quarter-pounder meal, orange pop, and six nuggets.

And there's like... Only six? I'm having a quarter-pounder with it. Yeah, only six. There's vehicles behind me. There's vehicles in front of me. This is back when they still had just a single lane in the, in the, drive-thru and she's like oh we don't have the orange pop anymore i went pardon me she was no we have

coke zero instead and i said i literally said it's like how is that a substitute said what are you talking about she was no we don't have the orange drink anymore and i said cancel my order i'd be curious for talking about you she goes pardon me i went i don't want anything i don't want anything she goes really yeah nothing so i drove through the drive-thru because i was trapped from both sides you mess with my world I was done for probably six months I didn't go back to McDonald's but you came back

I came back I still got the QP What we gave popcorn With the popcorn I had noticed twice It wasn't what it used to be So I sent a message Via social media I said hey look this isn't cool

I mean coming to movies for years You've had the same popcorn for years It's the best popcorn of the planet And now it's not Now you've followed It's the same popcorn As Cineplex has because I know these things

and I said it ain't it ain't right and I don't like it and you need to go back I go to another movie another month later or whatever have you popcorn is back to what it had been before so I don't know if it's strictly because of me but everybody in Lloydminster

serves me a great debt did you just take credit for changing Mace Cinema's popcorn unbelievable it's not like they ran out for a week or two or something it couldn't have been that

It was your letter. I think I like your attitude. I said, I don't know if I can take full credit or if I had any impact on it, but the timing was pretty serendipitous that... You had something. I had some impact. I can't wait to put, you know, this episode and the details May cinema of popcorn. And just leave it that.

That's all you need to know. The May family has done fantastic work with the theater and they upgraded the seats and everything they've done there's great. Leave the popcorn as it's been. and I'll keep on coming. It is a different experience now. I will say that. Oh, it's delightful. And I will say that popcorn is so good that my wife makes me go and get it when we have movies at home, which is embarrassing, but we have to get doing it.

Full credit, going back, I don't know how many years, Lanna Lane, Wayne Russell, Russway construction, Lana, his daughter, who was involved with the Bobcats for a number of years before they moved south and then back, whatever. She told me that move 15 years ago, easily. and I went, well, Lana, that seems a little odd, but you're right. They do have very good popcorn. I'm obviously a big time. Obie. Lana put me on to that move. I don't even need a movie at home, and I'm going and getting popcorn because it's just that good.

I'm dialed in. I like what I like. Don't change it. I get it. Simpleton. This is your thing. No, not a simpleton. You find the best of something.

You stick with it. If you had Kobe Bryant's on your team And you knew I've got Kobe Bryant I can have Kobe Brian forever Oh well there's this other guy No you've got the best You're gonna stick with the best Is the other guy Michael Jordan?

Steph Curry You're not taking Steph over Kobe Shut your mouth I would sample it for a while I would sample it Yeah you know And I am a Kobe guy And then you'd go and write a letter

And say give me back my Kobe And then I'd take credit for the Kobe You said you're an 83 year old man Why shouldn't you be throwing out Bob Coosie to us. Because I knew that Kobe would hit him straight in the heart. He knows. The first person I messaged that morning when I saw the news, before

I believed that it was real news, was Chris Kake. It was a tough one. My phone was going to be on. I knew that when his phone went off, he was already going to be in tears. Yeah. One of my players texted me, actually, and I didn't believe it. I'm going to get in tears probably right now. I didn't believe it. Read the media. And then all of a sudden it was like, Bing, Bing, you, Spigs. Turks, A bunch of people that knew

And a bunch of former players That knew how much I love Kobe And it was just like All of a sudden it was nice I don't know how we got to Kobe from popcorn But he saved May Cinema's popcorn Let's let's stick with that Yeah

Popcorn to Kobe That's what's happening here I told you this afternoon And yesterday when you brought this up Sean That there was going to be a lot of left turns That's what I love about the podcast I struggle with focus You listen to any Bobcats broadcast

over the last 13 years that I've been doing it, outside of the one year where somebody else stepped in. Toothless guy. I hear he's a charmer. I heard he was fantastic. Got away with the ladies. Heard he was fantastic. We derail on Bobcat games a lot.

I've had goal calls that didn't get called because I was babbling about something else. It happens. I lack focus on it. We did the playoff game the first year we were doing it in 2014. It's game three against they were playing Fort Mac in the second round. Format got up, 6-1, something like that, do you remember this?

The whole third period, we just talked about other things. We weren't going to give Gord Tibido and the Fort McMurray Oil Barrens at that time the satisfaction of being praised. And there's another guy that supposedly coming on is Gordtibino. Yeah. Be interested in his CL, his coaching tactics change. But you can ask him. guess we'll see.

Here's your final question. Did we ever get soups this movie? We did not. Top Gun, too. And I don't even think it's going to be good. It's not going to see it. Bullshit. No, it could be.

We need to go back down this road. It could be, but I just, I'm interested. I want to see it. Everybody goes down the road of Tom Cruise is too old to be flying planes. I go, good on Tom. No, it's not the Tom scarrant of this movie. No, it doesn't look like. Yeah.

It's interesting. That movie is shot with Tom Cruise in the backseat of the fire of the jet. All of them. All of the guys are, yeah. Yeah. So when he's pulling whatever G's going inverted. Have you seen all that? He's going through it.

There's like five cameras on. There's freaking awesome. There's no effects. It's, that's happening. Can they build a good enough storyline to just make it enjoyable? No, because you watch the previews, and it's the exact same highlights from the first movie. the exact same stuff they're

playing volleyball they're playing the piano tell me they're playing volleyball and Val Kilmer's in it and he's got a shirt on I can only hope that's what we all want and Anthony Edwards is there

with a t-shirt on you want to repeat or that's the story though it's Goose's sign right? Yeah except with a different name or something mockingbird

yeah pigeon sure great but you you want a good you do The volleyball ain't going to be, it's going to be a little tiny five-second clip.

The songs better be kick-ass. They better have a good song in there. We need another highway to the danger zone. Me and my, me and my brothers still sing the song from the bar. That's right. I've sung in like four weddings. Yeah. Thank you.

Right? They better have a song. They better have done the research. They screw that up. They're really up shit alley. Absolutely. But just give me a plausible story. Just a little bit, just enough to.

be like, but, you know, it's okay. I'm not, I'm not watching Top Gun the original or

the second one for the storyline. Just entertain me. Okay. But that's what I mean. And whatever the hell you do, don't wreck my Sunday mornings and don't cheap in the first one.

Well, that's exactly right, though. How many, how many movies come out now that were seconds to one that was so damn good and it was,

the second one's just not even close. That's what I was thinking. Yeah, that one sticks out. I didn't like Super Troopers, too. Major League. Yeah, Major League, right?

The second one didn't sour me as much as the third one. Yeah, they really went deep on that. Yeah. Anyways, okay, we'll go to the final question. This just keeps dragging on. I can see Chris is just, he's excited to get back to parenthood. Nope, I'm not going tonight. I'm not going back tonight.

When we get through what we're going through right now, which we're walking into it right now. but when we get through it what will be the first thing as a free person you can go to a bar you can go dancing you can go to a movie theater you can go to a hockey game you can go do whatever you want

what are you going to do start on that side because I always go to you know start with Kinger because I don't have much what life has is you can go anywhere I want to point this out you can go to right now Italy is where Italy is tickets are cheap Yeah, I'll be honest.

The thing that I know it's a short period is I'll want to be on the floor. Like I'll want to have a practice. To leave having a practice and supposed to have a practice on Tuesday at 4, we have a meeting with our AD at 3 saying your season's done. No more practice, no more anything. There's just something left. Even if I had one practice with this team, we just need to finish it. So that would be it.

I don't know if that happens in April, May, or June, but I want that finished piece. Sappy. Sappy. I'll let anybody else pick that up because I ain't touching that now. We might as just end the podcast right there. I want to be on the floor also. That was very good.

That was... I just want to go to some sporting event. You know what I mean? I'm not coaching like King or is, but... Just anything? Yeah. Like, you know, I don't care. Maybe it's Bobcats game, right?

I was so looking forward to camp in April. Yeah. Not nearly the same one, I'm going to be wrong. I'm a clown that sits there, makes fun of things. Just sit in the stands. Like it would have been, you, me, backy maybe, or back would have been on the ice, I don't know. Whatever.

You know. Shooting the breeze. Yeah. Just some social interaction. I mean, we're six days, and my wife's got to be tired. I mean, my kids, I'm certain are tired. Yeah. And I'm still going to work every day. But, God bless you.

Yeah, just something social. To be at the rink, because it's an odd thought that the golf course generally opens, you know, mid to late April. It's an odd thought that the golf course might not open. It's a daunting thing to me. I love golf. That is my escape. It's the most infuriating thing that makes me so happy. What about you?

well I really worry that in a couple days whatever it is they're going to tell you I forget what the term is I actually forgetting it right now but home isolation a lockdown isolation something like that where you can go for a walk run pick up groceries but other than that you're not supposed to have human interaction with anyone but your immediate household and there's a reason I'm sitting here with the U3 tonight I I love this shit. I love sitting and talking to people. Well, we've agreed when all four of us get diagnosed.

Yeah. We're just going to walk down here. To me, you talk about, you just talk about your passions, right? That's what I've... Golf course. Golf course.

The rank, whichever. I'll take whatever. Give me something. Just something that... Give me garage beers. I'll take whatever. Something that comes back, and I just...

I have a full plate of people. want to get to. Yeah. Yeah. I just, I just want to hammer out seven days a week right now. If I'm going to quarantine, give me away, and there are technologies, an easy way to do that, but there's something about sitting at the same table as somebody and just hammering out some fun and having a good time learning something. If that gets taken away, I'm going to be one grumpy ombre. My wife is going to be, well, we'll be listening to Janice and day 18, and I'm going to be swearing at the TV. We had two games scheduled this week. Two records. games we were done the season after this week and most of the boys in the room can't wait for

the season to be done guarantee you all those guys on the team right now are thinking fuck why why couldn't we got the last two in yeah but she knows my family she's good it's the same way i i get what you're saying though because lunch hockey was like the last thing to be shut down here it's like that was the last thing yeah like i went last week i'm like oh this might be it yeah Last little semblance. Hang in those guys. A very dear friend of Chris in mine, John Spiggett, he lives in Oakland. And he and his wife, Jess, and their two daughters, they're in that full lockdown mode.

And they're both, you know, working from home, but they're not supposed to leave unless it's essential. Yeah. And, I mean, he's dealing with it and has a fantastic family, thankfully. Which I think we all do. Um, but eventually you got to get pretty tired of people, right? I know that I'll be the last one of breaking my house. They're all going to get very tired of me before it goes the other way. Because I'll just go play call the duty.

I'm just, I just try and remind myself, I'm happy this is happening in an era of Netflix. Yeah. You name the technology it's sitting there. If this would have happened when we were young and you had two and four and you had to sit and watch what was on there or, holy. I watch so much walk with the end. And it's a lot. One of the siblings would have been, your family, my family, someone's going to the hospital. It's just you're getting fist fight after fist fight.

If you're young boys, like at home together. Who wins that one, Sean, of your family? 100% me. Dustin's in. He's got all his jujitsu now, though. He's been doing jujitsu. Is it like Kramer with a little kids, though? You know he's listening, right?

Just fuming. Just fuming. Next time I see him, I'm getting flipped something. Well, thanks, fellas, for coming in. This has been a pleasure. And if this doesn't happen now for several months, I've really enjoyed sitting. And if we all come down with it, then we'll be here every week, folks. We'll try and make you laugh.

Thank you. Thanks for having us. We didn't solve any murders. No. No, we did not. No, no murder solved. Next time.