Shaun Newman Podcast - Mashup 208

Episode Date: May 15, 2026

222 Minutes hopped on for a quick 2 minutes before dissapearing, so I am joined by Eva Chipiuk, Chuck Prodonick and Dustin Newman to discuss this week's headlines. Silver Gold Bull Links:Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/Email: [e-mail] Grahame: [phone]Bow Valley Credit UnionBitcoin: www.bowvalleycu.com/en/personal/investing-wealth/bitcoin-gatewayEmail: [e-mail] Get your voice heard: Text Shaun 587-217-8500

No, to the Masha. Tell me whether I'm wrong or right. Easter west up or down side to side. I sit to stand and fall to fly. Of all of my impulsive plans, pop and locking salsa dances on demand. I follow leading off the map and stop the chatter, scream happily. Welcome to the MASHup. Welcome to the MASH up.

Welcome to the MASH up. Welcome to the Masha. No matter how lazy you may think somebody is. maybe a coworker, a fellow province and confederation, no matter how lazy you think they are, they will never be as lazy as the person who invented the word island. Just picture it, you're out on a boat, and you're there with somebody, and they say,

is that water? Pointing out to some random island that doesn't have a name for it yet. You say, no, that is land. Okay, well, what do you call it? Oh, fuck it. Just call it that. Is land. Okay, well, how do you spell it?

Is land? End of discussion. What else do you want to talk about? And that's it. The most low effort word in the entire English language, island. Mashup 208 coming in today is land. All right. Right?

Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me I'm wrong. How's two's doing this morning? Dude's doing okay. How is Sean? I'm tired. I feel like I'm tired. I didn't get enough sleep last night. That's life. So. Yeah, I mean, we talked on the phone yesterday and you were like, I'm just driving around some random middle or nowhere backroads thing. Gives me like three descriptive words. And I'm like, oh, yeah, you're Bradshaw. And he says, yeah, actually. Yeah, it was, it was well done. That's exactly. I'm like, I don't know, I'm driving by this giant gas plant in the middle of nowhere. That's pretty much what I said. He's like, I know where that is.

Yeah. So how's everybody doing today? Welcome to Mashup 208. We got some guests hopping on in a little bit. Yeah, believe it or not, there's things to talk about. Yeah. Yes. I can do things like this.

I can do things like this. We can say happy airborne Friday. Happy airborne Friday. Yeah. To all the. military boys out there. We got a military boy joining us today. That should be fun. And I don't know. I didn't even see, I guess first, if you enjoy the show, folks, make sure to like, make sure to share. If you're watching on X, hit the retweet button. Ask questions in the chat. Tews has pulled up for Q&A.

All right. Sure. Oh, wait, sorry. That was like a default one that was in there when we, this is what happens when Tews gets full access again. He just starts touching all the buttons, right? Oh, I'll be pushing your buttons. You just give it a button. Yeah, lots to get to this week. It is not but another, you know, like. Well, we were joking about it last week. We were like, wouldn't it be funny if we had like literally nothing and we could just sit here and enjoy a comfortable silence together? That is not the case this week. No, no, it is not. the case. I was on Mikkel Thorup's podcast, right? He, um, he was asking me about Canada and Alberta. And this is like,

I don't know, three days ago, maybe. And he's like, yeah, I don't know how far you want to go back. He's like, do you want to go back? I don't know, like six months. I'm like six months. Like, let's, let's just do like the last three weeks. And, um, you know, like I explained how the mashups been going now, 208 weeks in a row. And, um, and, you know, like, I explained how the mashups been going. And, um, you know, And there isn't a week where we don't have a full slate of things to get to. And this week is no difference. I've been saying it for a while. We've got to figure out a way to do this two, three, even more times a week.

Because even within this, you're just like, well, this was a really interesting thing three days ago. And now I've moved on. And I'm sure everybody else has too. And so it doesn't get talked about. like even the liberal nomination thing in Ontario I was like oh yeah yeah I guess that was this week we probably should have something in there about that not like but when it came out I was like oh my god

I cannot wait to talk about this you want micro mashups you want you want 15 minute 25 minute episodes daily no they would basically be this but almost daily I'm saying there's so much meat on this bone. I know, but twos, you have hard enough time making one mashup a week. Now try and get your brain wrapped around. We're going to do this three times a week.

Oh, no, no, no. I'm completely aware of the logistical impossibility of the situation. I'm just saying that there is so much more that would be so cool to do. Yes. Zane chiming in, great mashing week ahead. I got to see Zane yesterday. So showed up to Zane. Nice. And so a few more coming in. Mel says, oh, I brought it up and then you clicked over top of it. Mel says, yes, please.

And Kevin says we demand daily mashups. Well, I guess if you're demanding it, tell you what, Kevin, I'll fight you for it. And if people don't understand, Kevin is a black belt. and we won't be fighting over that. If there's one guy, I'm not going to wrestle. Black belt with white stripes and the red edging. And Sherry Lynn says, good morning, Vietnam.

Oh, wait, I mean, Alberta. Well, good morning anybody in Vietnam right now. Okay. Do you have a coup six and a half? I didn't, did you slide one in there? You did. Okay. Fire away.

Judge gives lenient sentence so trucker can dodge deportation after fatal Ontario crash. Now, I know what you're thinking, folks. We hear this every week. They always share the same article. And it may sound like the same article, but this is a new one from this week, as opposed to the ones that we cover in previous weeks where the same idiot thing keeps playing out repeatedly. Deportation would be a disproportionate result to the crime which is sentencing hearing this addressing, says the judge.

Thunder Bay issued an absolute discharge so an Indian trucker who pleaded guilty to dangerous driving and a fatal crash can avoid deportation. Ajit Paul Singh was driving too close behind another truck that lost control and jackknifed on Highway 102 in December 2021, killing the driver of a truck headed in the opposite direction and severely injuring the passenger. Mr. Singh has been living in Canada since 2018 where he studied and worked to make a life in this country. If convicted, he will almost certainly face deportation,

which would be a result unique to Mr. Singh in that no Canadian citizen would face similar consequence if he or she pleaded guilty to the same crime. Justice Stephen Jay, whatchich? Wrote in the recent decision. vision. Wujicelsky.

Oh, actually, sorry. No, no, no. It'd be Wogicelsky. Oh, man. There we go. It's hard to just hit that one on the fly. And so, anyway, yes, yes, that would be unique to people who,

it wouldn't happen to people from Canada, but it would happen to him. And here's the thing is that if it's happening to him, It's because he's not a good culture fit for this country. And why do I say that? Because we, as the people in this country, do not think it's a good thing to kill other people. When was, remember the family guy episode where they come to Toronto? You know what I'm talking about?

And it's all the Indians everywhere. And they're like, what the heck? Do you know what I'm talking about? I can't remember that one specifically. I thought I'd seen like I've seen pretty much every family guy up until the part where they kind of turned Justin Trudeau into this godlike figure but I definitely thought I'd seen everyone with Canada

but I maybe just won't remember it Brian and Stewie come to Canada and it's just like they're like what the heck is this? Yeah and then they steal the skidoo from somebody and then they're like how long ago was that? I don't remember that bit I'm like that is way ahead of its time because they're trying to get to the North Pole

now like it's just like every week it's a new sing i mean we've literally created a segment out of you know it's one thing after another yeah it's strange times now i'm gonna skip over no i'm not going to skip over because she just entered the studio and we might as perfect timing yes all right well let's just do this ever great to see you hi guys how are you happy Friday. Hi, Eva. Happy Friday. Yes.

Well, okay. I think the talk here in Alberta is, and I don't know, Tuse, what are you doing with me? You just got a take a phone call. Okay. What we'll do is we're going to toss Tews out. It's going to be me and Eva. Oh, this already looks better already. And, well, bring us up to speed.

Everything going on, you know, the last time we chatted with you on the mashup, he was in court, you were in court, you know, and there was a delay on whether or not we're going to count the petition signatures. Now it's been, I don't know, I don't think, is it thrown out? I don't know the words. Walk me through this, Eva, and bring us up to speed. I think the word used, I think, was quashed. So I think we spoke to you right after our submissions were made in court over the two days in April, early April, and we're just into early May, because after we spoke to you, Justice Leonard issued a stay order for, she said, approximately a month,

staying, so stopping, preventing the chief electoral officers from verifying the signatures once the signatures were submitted to his office and communicating the result to the government. So that decision came out April 10th the day after we were in court. And just this week, Justice Leonard issued her final ruling. And that stay was meant just to be a temporary order until she was able to make a more comprehensive decision on the merits of the application. And so she came out with her decision. And she said that chief electoral officer should not have approved the petition. the petition in the first base in January.

And so I'm with you on what does that actually mean practically because the signatures are in the elections, Alberta offices, and just sitting there. And the provinces earlier announced, and Mitch has announced that they'll be appealing the decision. So I think it's just kind of going to be sitting at the moment. Well, when you go appealing the decision, my brain goes,

Oh, man, that is going to be a long time. Am I wrong in thinking that? Like, is this going to be two weeks from now we have a decision? Or is like when, oh, yeah, we're going to appeal it. We're looking at a longer time frame than that. Yeah, generally. And we're also going to be putting in a stay application on behalf of Mitch, Sylvester. So we're saying the asking the court of appeal to now stop the decision from its effect.

which is what she was doing initially with the chief electoral officer's obligation to count. So she stayed that, and we're going to ask the Court of Appeal to stay her decision in order for the Chief Electoral Officer to do his job and verify the signatures. You know, we're going to ask the Court of Appeal to hear that application sooner rather than later, same with the appeal itself, but two weeks is, I think, a very optimistic time. So where does this leave Albertans, right? Like, I mean, you got 300,000 signatures. People, we've talked about this on the show an awful lot.

And if you're in Alberta and you were driving around, you saw all these wonderful people standing on the sides of, well, parked on the sides of road. etc. And, you know, collecting signatures through the worst months of the year. And, you know, they go through all that effort, citizen-led initiative. And they can frame it however they want to and mainstream. But I mean, we all saw it. And now it's like, oh, wait, you're not allowed to do this. And it's been thrown out for the time being. Like, where does this leave us? Yeah. It's really in an uncomfortable place for understanding what the rules are.

what democratic participation means and what the limits are on it, which probably should be not a lot, obviously. And it's just the weirdest thing, and I wrote a long Twitter post or ex post about this, is that the government at any point in time, as Quebec has done, could put this question on the ballot. And so that, up for referendum, that's not a question. That's not up for debate. That is solidly in the law and no questions asked on that. But this decision that came out is just, it's a bit weird in my view, in law and in practice and in common sense is it was citizen led, as we all know. So the government had nothing to do with it outside of creating the law.

and what the First Nations argued and Justice Leonard agreed is that the government hasn't fulfilled its obligation to First Nations and their duty to consult. So when did that obligation arise? It's still quite unclear, which treaty rights were infringed is unclear. what the government was supposed to do to accommodate, the First Nations in an alleged treaty breach is unclear. So all of that is unclear. So I think it is a good, which is not good in law. When things are uncertain and you don't know what the law is or what the rights that were breached are,

it's not a good position for the law. Obviously, you look confused, I'm confused. It's confusing because the law now is not. not clear as a result of this decision in our view, and that's why it's being appealed. Well, I mean, I think I can speak safely for citizens of Alberta. Like, you know, you're upset with the government. So what do you do? You get out and you protest.

Or, you know, you get involved in whatever board in your area. There's lots of different ways. And in this case, it was set out, this is the way. You need 177,000 plus signatures. They got to be rigorously gone through and you got to take your training and all the things. And I ran into a ton of people that went out and canvas for this. And they talked about like it was a big ordeal. Like it was a lot of work, 7,000 plus people.

And then they just walk in and it's like, no. Yeah, this wasn't in consultation with First Nations. And it's like, but where was that in the, you know, and all the things we needed to do. And then, you know, like, I'm, no, I hate to do simple addition, but you look at who the judge is and how they were appointed and you just start to do the math and you're like, okay, so what, Quebec gets to do what they want, but because it's Alberta, we're not allowed to even ask the question.

It seems very odd. And where was this on Lukazek's question? Why wasn't that one stricken from the record? I mean, like you could just see the hypocrisy and all this. And so you sit here on a Friday morning, I might add, where you're, you know, I think all of us want to be, it's Friday. And, you know, it's May long. And of course, it's a May long throwback. It's snowing here in Lloyd this morning.

And you're like, this is strange. I mean, it kind of fits with Canada, 2026, I might add. But I mean, still, I think a lot of people put a lot of hope in at least having the question asked and getting to go vote on it and let the chips fall where they may. Yeah. Well, on where we're at, I said this so many times we're living in an upside down world. Nothing makes sense that we have to go through the motions. So the first thing, just is, again, Quebec did it through the parliament, through their legislature. So the provincial government put the question on the ballot twice. And Alberta, Premier Smith, can do that at any, she could just wake up any day and do it.

She doesn't have to go through. She went through the democratic process of becoming the leader of the province. And so that's how she has. She doesn't have to go through the Citizens Initiative Act. Obviously, she could just put it on. But the one thing I wanted to add, because you said it's so well about, you know, people go through this whole process and its citizens working together, understand the hypocrisy of this decision too when a province that doesn't have a citizen initiative

Act, and there are a few, can literally do what Mitch Sylvester and 7,000 canvassers did without all of the legal hurdles and financial obligation disclosure things and all the requirements that are put into law. They could do that any day of the week as well. And so that also shows you. So in Alberta, they created the Citizens Initiative Act, which yesterday it became big news when former Premier Kenny and Tyler Shandra were like, why don't these people start up their own political party? They were the ones that put this into law so that people, when they are not satisfied with their government, don't have to go out and create a new party.

Are they that dumb? They actually said it yesterday. Like you stare at Kenny and I saw that and I'm like, do you not understand that people are just going to pull up the video of you talking about this is why we did this for you. We did it for you. We didn't think you'd do it. So now we're going to tell you to go start up a political party and draw this. You're like, what are you talking about? Yeah, we really don't want to empower you. We just want to pretend we're empowering you. Like, that's basically what it's saying. And then when it's utilized, especially those two, like perhaps minute, use the minute button serves right now.

But that's the thing that I keep wanting to say to encourage people in other provinces to use civic engagement. You don't have to wait for permission from the government to petition the government. Don't think that that's a requirement. But that's another thing is it should never stop people from still having this discussion, informally having these. You could even start an informal petition outside of this whole thing. But talk to your elected officials and say that this. This is an important issue that you really want heard.

Like don't stop the communication with the elected officials. And I'm a little bit afraid that that's what might happen because of this. Because, yes, it was a long and hard process. And a lot of people put in on a lot of work and commendable. But let's not stop it. Let's keep it going. Yes. My question for you, you know, we brought up Kenny.

I focus on, okay. But Kenny's just, he's doing this like. like, what do we call it, a revival tour or something, right? Everybody, I think, is doing the simple edition if he hasn't already said it, that he wants to run for, you know, federal politics. And you kind of like, okay, so this guy's going to come out and he's going to say things. Albertans, I think the majority of Albertans, don't really give a crap what he has to say. We already told him what we thought a few years ago.

So you fast forward to where we sit now. And we've got a premier that majority of Albertans like, they like Daniel Smith. and you go, okay, she comes out in a press conference, says something that I said, I think, on the show, folks. It was like, well, now you got 700,000 Albertans who've weighed in, some pro-Canada, some we need to get out, pro-Alberta. And I go, so where does this, like, am I under the understanding that the Alberta government can just put it on the referendum?

Can they just put the question on the referendum? Like, what do we talk? Who cares about appealing? the Albertans have spoken one way or another that they want a question that says, are we staying in Canada or not? And let's just see. Yeah, 100% they can. And I think that that should be encouraged. Like all the people that are saying it's a fringe movement and all this stuff, it can never happen. Great. Well, let's just let the people have a say.

And this is what troubles me the most with the opposition. It's not whether or not we are, there's independence will happen. That hasn't even, we haven't really even been sophisticated and in an educated way talking about the pros and the cons of separating from Canada. What we're talking about is whether or not a citizen and citizens as a collective can have a voice. And I think that is something that it should be very troublesome to everyone. Any of any elected officials or formal elected officials that are trying to suppress the voice of citizens, we should be calling that out immediately.

Like if we want to have an educated discussion about the benefits of independence, wonderful. Let's do that. Let's do that as adults. Can we do that though? We haven't seen that yet, unfortunately. But if the focus is going to be on whether or not we can even have a voice, that's incredibly concerned.

Yeah, well, you couldn't even get like where we're, where i where i sat or sit i'd had lots of different um conversations about you know what it could look like but the truth of the matter is i'm like oh first you got to get the petition signed and then you got to get it put on the referendum ballot so that you can actually be like okay this is actually happening let's discuss now why you would want to stay or want to leave and so the petition gets signed and you could see the chatter starting to change of like hey we're going to start talking about what this could look like, is there something you want to do or isn't this something you want to do? You're starting to see more and more conversations like that. Then they just strike it from the record. Nope,

we're not even going to look at, we're not even going to count this. And I'm like, you sit there and you scratch your head and you're like, well, I mean, Chuck Brodnick's hopping on here shortly, folks. And I go, I can already hear the word he's going to say. And he's going to say, the only thing left is to get spicy. And you can take that every you want. But certainly there's a lot of historical data to show when you won't listen to people what's going to happen i mean you this isn't 10 people this is a large number of albertans and the thing is with the 300 000 how many more albertans particularly didn't want to put anything to name because they're worried about repercussions of speaking about this of having their name on

anything like it's just a strange time ever and you know know, like, someday I hope to say, not have to say that over and over again, but 2026 seems to outdo 2025 and 2025 and 2025 seem to outdo 2024. I don't think anything's going to outdo the late fall stages of 2021, but I could be wrong. You know, it seems like dark days, strange days are ahead when you can just take what citizens are trying to say and just, they didn't consult these people and so therefore it's out yet you know I go back to it we had a different petition or you could you could look at Corb Lund's petition right that that's been talked about is he consulting everybody like what are we trying to do here yeah no 100% it it absolutely makes no sense I set it right off the top upside down world how would that

duty to consult apply to anything. It would literally make Alberta ungovernable. Anytime the government would want to do something or even think about doing something, because that's where we're at. The government hasn't done anything. Citizens are talking about it, and perhaps the government is going to do something about it, and it's been stopped. So how do you govern? You can't, can't govern. And one thing just of note is treaty rights, just like charter rights, are not absolute. And so that's a conversation that I haven't seen happening as well, is that there's a lot of case law about what a treaty right is, to begin with, then what the government's obligation is if it's breached, so they have a duty to consult, and that would happen once there's

a breach, and accommodate or make reasonable efforts to accommodate. but it still means that the treaty right could be breached. And that means that, you know, their hunting rights might be affected because the government wants to put in a road. You don't stop the road because tenemus will be killed. But what the government has to do is consult with the First Nation that's affected and then also try to accommodate. So can we do something about the hunting rights?

But if they can't, they just have to make reasonable efforts and then the court decides, you know, in the end. But the roads still can go through. And that's what needs to be said a little bit more, is that treaty rights, just like charter rights, and we live through COVID, so we know how charter rights were breached for individual Canadians and their mobility rights,

due process rights were breached and infringed. And courts have said on the mobility issue, that was okay. The same applies to treaty rights. And I don't think enough people recognize that because of how it's being framed. Where you sit with appealingness and everything else, what do you expect to happen over the next, like just from the court of law and the next,

I don't know, take your time frame. Like, I mean, we're approaching the end of the school year, summer, that type of thing. Like, do you see anything changing? Like, I mean, obviously Daniel Smith and the government can signal, hey, we're going to put it on the referendum. They can do that, I think, today, if they wanted to, if I understand it correctly.

But like, as far as the law goes on this appeal, I don't know. If you were trying to inform Albertans, what would you say? I would say that I would not rely on legal systems to address political type issues. And we saw a bit of that during COVID is it was like, let's sue, let's sue, let's sue. Suing takes a long time, unfortunately. I don't love that part about it, but a lot of these issues like this one is political. Nothing is stopping Albertans to continue having this discussion

and going directly to their elected officials and saying, what are we doing about the petition? What are we doing about the referendum? I think people should have a say, do you agree or disagree with me? And legislature just ended in Alberta yesterday, I believe. And so MLA should be more available to their constituents now. And you should go and talk to them, go to their town halls, meet with them, and ask these questions.

Because nothing is stopping citizens from communicating their wishes and wants to the government. I want to make that very clear. Mitch Sylvester went through the Citizens Initiative Act. And as a result, there were a ton of legal hurdles. and bureaucratic, administrative obligations he had to take on. But citizens don't have to do that. You don't have to ask for permission to talk to your elected official. If this is an area of concern, talk to them.

Eva, I appreciate you hopping on and being a voice of reason here in an unreasonable time, if I may say so. Upside out world. Pleasure. Thanks for having me. Hopefully the next time we have something positive to talk about, but either way. Eva, thanks for hopping on. No problem.

Take care. Okay. So for Mashaup fans, two's disappeared and I'm not sure what happened. I hope everything is all right on his end. He just texted me and said, essentially, he's got a duck out and he won't be back.

So I'm going to have some fun today. We got two more guests sitting in the background. But I'm like, man, I've been trying to, today just seems like the day, doesn't it? If you want to have your say on Alberta independence, shoot me a text. And I'll shoot you the link and you can hop on and have a quick say. Either way, I'm going to bring in Dustin Newman. I'm going to bring in Chuck Prodnick.

Gentlemen, interesting week here in Alberta. I would say it's surprising, but I don't think that's the case. More so just, you know, it seems like, you know, you sit there and you look at it and you go, man, I hope that doesn't happen. And here it is. It's happened. Dust, Chuck, your thoughts. Go ahead. Go ahead, Chuck. Oh, you go ahead. Well, I'm not surprised, quite honestly. If you look at where we are in this world over the last five years and the courts and government reaching into things that they probably shouldn't be, this won't be the last time something like this happens when they interfere with something you know you look

at direct democracy what you know it's the purest form of democracy where individuals vote in a referendum the citizens of a of a province voted in a referendum to decide what they want the process was laid out where the citizens had an ability an avenue to voice their opinion and ultimately have a vote on something they want to vote on uh 300 000 out of 1.7 million is is a decent percentage to sign a petition because petitions are not easy to gather signatures for. And then the court shut it down. Like that is not the place for a court. This is, you know, do we want, I was here, well, you know, there's not enough people, whatever.

It's democracy. If you, like, that's what we, uh, I've chosen to live in. It's the best form of government. And now the courts are shutting down our democratic rights. So, um, complete BS. Chuck? Yeah, good to see again, Dustin. It's been a minute.

And Sean, been a minute. I don't know that anybody was surprised. I think you and Ava kind of touched on that a little bit. I don't think anybody was very surprised at this happened. They were going to find a judge somewhere, somehow, to stymie this, and they were going to use whatever excuse they wanted. What's interesting to me to see is who the biggest spokespeople against the movement is right now.

And I think because we don't really have a head of a movement, like not formally, there isn't some party. But it's interesting that Kenny and Shandro have been speaking out a lot about this, these two fucking Muppets who, I remember that picture of them during COVID when they were the biggest, you know, lockdown freaks you could get,

the biggest show me your papers guys. And then they're breaking all the rules, you know. Didn't even get a mea copo. Oh, I'm sort of, you know, like, I guess we need to do better. I'll fuck off. your need to do better. Well, these two are the biggest, not the biggest, but they're out there in front right now. And of all the people to be spearheading this anti-separation movement

or pro-freedom movement, it's these two guys who have no validity with anybody slightly right of center in Alberta, you know. So they're really drumming up business for us, thankfully. And so did this judge, this Eastern-born judge, you know, out here a Trudeau appointee, stop dropping this because what, isn't the reserve that they're basing this off of? I could be wrong with this. I didn't hear all of what Ava said. But there's like 33 people living on this reserve. This chief, his tribe got $330 million last year.

Now, I think there's like 1,500 people in this tribe altogether. But 33 of them live on the reserve. So if you do the math, and I'm not good at math, but even for me, that's a lot of money per person that lives on the reserve. So I don't know. You know, somebody's getting paid off to do whatever they're going to do. We know that the chief, I'm not saying the First Nations people themselves. A lot of them are actually pro-separation, something like 48% of them.

It's the chiefs. The chiefs are going to step in the way of everything, just like they always do. Look, nobody was surprised. What I'm watching for now is the language, and the language has been pretty, pretty grim from the other side since this all started with the canvassing. Canvassers were attacked physically, verbally, in every other way. Pro-separation people are basically, you know, called out with violence almost daily on social media. And it's funny watching the media themselves. I was back east about a month ago, visiting family.

And you watch the news back east, you get this whole other. flavor of these fucking Albertans and all they want is to dig up dirty oil and all they want to do and I guess they love their their Bibles and their guns and their trucks because they just want to separate and be hillbillies that they are. This is this is the template for the Eastern media day in and day out my parents. I was like turn off the fucking channel this like whoa you're like oh yeah I'm a redneck I love my truck my dog and my guns yeah Sue me, you know, like get over it. So what happens next?

I don't know. I can see where it's probably heading, though. You know, and me and twos were chatting about bringing you on, Chuck. He's like, I don't know. I don't know if we should bring him on. You know what he's going to say? And I'm like, things are about to get spicy twos? And I'm like, I think things are spicy already when you have Democratic rights being

shut down on the whole string of the things that have been going on over the last five years. and some will argue longer than that. And fair enough, strange times, dust. So, Chuck, you brought up by Shandrow and Jason Kenney. You know who actually brought in the citizen-led initiative? Jason fucking Kenny. Jason Kenny and Tyler Shandro.

And now they're saying, no, no, no, no, but that doesn't apply to this. And it's like, oh, I see it. We didn't really mean it. Yeah. We didn't think you guys would actually do it. We wanted it to apply to things that we approved of, essentially. And now they're like, we can't do this. You need to form a party to win an election to have this happen.

It's like the people of Alberta can't put together a referendum that you guys implemented to actually make this happen. Well, Kenny was making the comments yesterday on the Twitter about how, because somebody said, well, he goes, well, they'll never start a separist party because it won't get any votes. And Chandro said something, well, if they really want to do something, join the UCP. so we crashed the website. People were buying buying memberships out of the Wazoo. So they're setting the table. We're going to get it one way or the other.

We're going to kick them all out of their own party. We're going to take over the party and just do what we want with it. You know, and Smith can get on board or not. I don't know what game she's playing at the moment, where she's going to land on which side of the street. I don't know. But one way or the other is going to happen. Could you imagine if we were a U.S. state, pick one,

pick anyone slightly leaning right and they said you know what folks that right that you have to do a thing to petition the government no dude the spice would be off the charts right now we're canadian so we don't immediately go that right but it's interesting i i groped it the other day because i was curious about this how many new countries have been formed since 1990 i just picked an arbitrary year kind of the wall came down in 89 the russians really fell apart kind of of around then there's a bunch of stuff happening around 90. 34 new nations have been formed and recognized since 1990. And then I groked, well, how, what was the, you know, statistically, what was your chance of that going peacefully or having the spice? And about two-thirds of them had an element of spice, if not full-on, pew-pue craziness. And people can Google or grok what all those were. I mean, Bosnia, the dissolution of the, of the Soviet.

Union, some countries went peacefully, some countries did not go so peacefully. Look, when I look at the framework of where we are as a confederation right now, we're like, we're very comparable in a lot of ways, not all, but a lot of ways to what happened at the end of 89, 90 with the Soviets, where they formed, you know, this Russian Federation and all these little satellite countries did come off. You know, you had to stop. Too many to name, honestly, there's a bunch of them. But once Alberta goes, there's several other provinces that we already know.

We know that are watching for this to happen. And it'll happen. And look, I didn't want it to go this way. But at this point, I'm willing to send somebody to petition Trump just to recognize us. Just have him take out his magic Trump wand and say, I recognize you. I dub the Alberta.

I don't want to be the 51st fucking state. But I dubbed the Alberta, the nation of, the whatever of the protector, we'll be your protectorate. Well, it's over at that point. It's just done. Would I like to do it the legal and honest way? But Ava touched it on it at the end. We are not going to get political satisfaction through anything legally now.

There are people that say, well, just be patient, Chuck. We'll just be patient. Alberta's been patient for 50 fucking years of MOUs and broken promises and unfair voting practices. we don't have the same voting power as anybody, these small provinces out east that get all over money, just kind of over it all. So I'm willing to let things go in a different direction at this point.

So Chuck, I almost agree with you. And the reason I almost agree with you is this, is that a referendum would settle at all. And you go, well, there's no path forward. Actually, there is Daniel Smith putting it on the ballot for October. And she's in a precarious position right now. because a good chunk of her base wants this to happen. And if she doesn't go along with it, you know, there's a real possibility people punt her.

And so there's a window here in the next month or two for her to put it on and it needs to happen. We can't wait for the courts for the appeal process. It'll take way too long. It'll take years for sure. And the same thing with the political party side, you know, to form a new political party and gain the numbers to actually go in the next election. Like you're talking years down the road. When this process was put into place for this exact reason,

There's 400 people on one side that signed a petition for staying in Canada. There's 300,000 on the other side for staying in Alberta, for an independent country. Daniel Smith needs to step up and put it on the ballot for October. And if she doesn't, then we're in different territory again, for sure. But the next month or two is critical when it comes to UCP and what actually happens there. Well, here's Marty up north. He said, Albertans are pissed off. We crashed the UCP website.

We can't buy membership. So when you talk about probably getting a message loud and clear, I'm, you know, like, what do we know about? This isn't the first time they crashed the website, Sean. This is the second time they crashed the website for buying memberships. Well, I just go like, you know, Daniel Smith is no dummy. I think everyone can agree with that. And you go, she's looking at this and going, oh, I mean, you just saw her press conference.

What did you say a press conference? There's been 700,000 people that have. talked about this, right? Have signed, not only talked about it, sign their name to a petition. Obviously, it's a pretty hot button issue. The day after or the day of this coming out, now they're crashing the website

to get UCP memberships. I mean, that's pretty, in the political sphere, they pay attention to things like that. She's going to have no choice but to put it on the referendum at this point, in my opinion. She's going to try and do it in a way where she can navigate both sides, but if she doesn't put it the petition, don't you see people getting UCP memberships and be like, we're done with this.

This isn't, what was the number? I think when TBA, maybe somebody can comment on this, I think they took the membership from, what was it? Was it five to 60,000 or was it? I can't remember the numbers, but the numbers went like huge. It ballooned. And why was that? Everybody was upset with Kenny.

Nothing motivates people, but frustration. and right now people are frustrated beyond belief. And if Daniel Smith doesn't put it there so that the question can be asked so it can remain peaceful, then the next option for a lot of Albertans is getting her out and putting somebody in who will. Yeah. So the left is at a strategy here of trying to push Daniel Smith into the role of being the separatist, the leader of the separatists, essentially.

They've been pushing this for a long time. and this is almost forcing her hand. Like they keep, she keeps coming out and saying that, you know, a strong Alberta within a united Canada, that's been her line, but supports the processes.

And so she's trying to play middle of the road, you know, not pick a side. And the left keeps trying to force her into leader of the separatist side. And she's a separatist. And so the court strikes it down. The only path forward is for her to put it on the referendum.

And then they can brand her as a separatist and try and destroy it. the UCP party and destroy her essentially or try to destroy her. At the same time, it might force her, I guess, to start representing the independence crowd, maybe, potentially. And I don't know if they thought that through because that might not be the greatest idea. I look, I don't know which way she's going to go either. And I mean, she's a politician.

She's incredibly bright. She's probably about as savvy as it gets out there. If anybody can read the tea leaves, I'm guessing she can and with her people. But she comes back from Ottawa, meeting Carney and getting this, I don't know, another MOU or kind of like a thought about an MOU, or you were going to dis... But first, once she leaves Ottawa, Carney goes on and says, well, Alberta's not getting fuck all because they're not really doing what we need them to do. Yeah.

Well, how many MOUs has it been? And once anything's kind of agreed on, somebody's just going to court injunction it anyway. The only way we're getting anything is going south through the states, thanks to Trump. Trump's done more for Alberta

that Albertans can hate him or love him. I don't care. He's not a perfect person always. He's pretty unperfect. But the dude has done more for us. He's done more for his own country than anybody out east has done for an Albertan. My kids, your kids, have no future left in this nation.

None. not in the condition it is. People say, well, we can fix it. I've got friends out east that are like old veteran buddies. Oh, no, Chuck, we can fix this. It can be fixed. No. Ten years ago, maybe we could have stopped the backslide.

We're so far down that hole now. There's no digging out of that. We need to do what we can do here. They talk about this Quebec separation stuff because we're always, you know, bookended with the Quebec separation stuff, which everybody was fine with because Quebec's got their own culture. They do their own thing. They suck on syrup all day.

and aren't they lovely people? No. Alberta has our own culture. We get told about how different our culture is from the rest of Canada day in and day out. Well, I'm willing to embrace that. Let my inner redneck shine, my inner hillbilly out.

Let that mask slip all the... I'm good with that, but let us go. Did you see what Kenny said today? Or not Kenny, the Prime Minister said today? No. He's hoping to have the conditions for the MOU met by the end of 2027 so they can, you know, move on the pipeline. Yeah, kick it down the road.

There's no energy shortage right now. There's no demand for energy at all. No Middle Eastern war. Yeah, no. Trump is going around the world. He got China to agree to do all this. They're going to buy, China's going to buy oil from the U.S. Can you fucking imagine?

Can you imagine? The Canadian pension plan just announced that they're investing a bunch of money into a natural gas pipeline down in Louisiana. Anna. Yeah. We're brilliant. We're really good at keeping our fucking oil on the ground. So since Tuse isn't here, I'm going to throw some headlines at you guys so that we can discuss because you're sticking around now for a few extra minutes because Tews disappeared on me. I don't know. Tews, wherever you're at. I'm sure you're fine, but I hope everything's all right. Not a place. He just, I invite you. Invites me on the show and leaves. Canada's auto industry could disappear by 2040, RBC,

warns an industry conference in Toronto focused on the auto sector's future rbc thought leadership managing director jordan Brennan said industry leaders and governments must do what they can to avoid this worst case scenario quoted it's the scenario where canada's being heavily tariffed customs are unavoidable and the export economy economics are dead what does this look like in practice governments have to subsidize the industry to the point where it becomes politically unpeaceful according to the RBC and analysis presented Tuesday if auto industry provisions in the Canada, United States, Mexico agreement are scrapped or severely weakened and Canada opens its car market

to Chinese-made electric vehicles in exchange for trade concessions in other areas. Automakers are expected to gradually shut down assembly plants in Canada with all facilities shuttered by 2040. So when you're talking about like the state of Canada and we can get it better, everything right now is trending the opposite. it weight. Yeah, everything. Everything. Well, if you look at what the U.S. is done, they're like, you know what, let's produce our own stuff. Now, this really sucks for Canada, you know, especially Eastern Canada, who makes this stuff because they're like, the U.S. is like, well, why do we get Canada to build

this stuff? We'll just build it ourselves. And like, I can't really fault them for it, really. Like, they've got the capacity. They have a workforce down there. They need the products. they want to protect themselves. And it's like, well, what do you do with that? I don't know. Like, what's funny is if we play this out 10, 20 years down the road, there's no good solutions for a bunch of this. And something's going to break at some point because there's no other choice.

Well, Trump said it the other day, because they brought up, you know, our people eventually have to step to the negotiating table with the trade agreement. I think he's got, last I saw, he had something almost worked out with Mexico. from their side of things, but really nothing from Canada. Like we're, Carney's playing hard to get or we don't need the states or something.

I don't know at this point what his line is. But Trump said we get about 20% of our vehicles from Canada because we don't need to do that. We don't need their cars. We'll just build them. And he said we used to build lots of them. We're going to just build them ourselves. Well, last, last week it was the CEO of Cinovus coming out and talking about,

uh, problems with Canada. This week, the head of T.C. Energy says Mexico is eating Canada's lunch on pipelines with the eighth month permitting times. Yeah. Right? So Canadian companies

are now staring at Mexico going like, they're killing us. Like are we going to get out of the way here or not? No. No. This is how the East has always kept Alberta under their thumb. We'll dangle it.

You'll pump a little oil. That's it. We're going to siphon all the money. You get for the oil, back to the east, to keep us, sorry, my dogs going here, to keep, to keep the status quo going. And it doesn't matter when a conservative government gets in. Wouldn't have matter if Pahlia would have gotten in. It would have got kicked down the road because he, every conservative leader for the last

30 years has thought, well, you know what? We're going to have to like try and pull some more liberals to our side. We got to really play that middle. No, the left doesn't play the middle. The left's gone right off the fucking cliff. Unless we get somebody willing to go right off the cliff to the right, we're not going to change shit. If you look at the state of Eastern Canada and what's going to happen to their industries in the next five, 10 years, it's only going to get worse. They're going to have to try and pull more money out of Western Canada.

And you can imagine, I keep thinking about this. Like, if oil price goes up to $150 or $200 a barrel and Alberta and Saskatchewan are making a killing off the royalty side, and the oil companies are making a huge amount off the revenue side, how long until it's, Canada looks at what's happening on the eastern side of the country and goes, you know what, we're screwed over here. We need more money. We're going to find a way to pull even more of the money out of the West to fund the East because our industries are cratering over here. Like that's, I can see that happening. Absolutely. National Energy Program part two, I can see that happening. Oh yeah. I think the only thing the East has going for them at this point is that fancy spaceport

they built, which is, which is about all they've got, that in Poki Beach. Like when I think of the East, Just the way they think of an Albertan, and I don't care what you think of me. They, like, that's how I think of them. Pokey Beach, the movie. I don't know if you ever watch that movie. Pogi Beach. It's very apt. And it literally is a movie.

It's kind of like Fubar. You remember Fubar the movies? But for the East, where they basically rejoice in how they, they pull Pogi and go to the beach. That's their culture. I used to think it was a joke. But now I'm kind of like, well, fuck. Who knew? too. I guess it was a documentary. I don't know.

You know, not to knock all Easterners, but I'm kind of knocking most Easterners right now. Anyway. Well, for the audience who's curious about twos and they're like, oh, Tuesday is all right. Tuse has to be all right because he's texting me what he thought about different things on some of the things he has in the show notes. And I'm like, Tews, you don't get to text me mid show. Okay? You're not here. So enough. Here's a headline. And I assume you guys saw

the Lindsay Shepherd and the Francis Whittowson kind of getting, I don't know, like this huge, well, I'll read it. A deceitful propaganda campaign marked as a prank. CBC funded TV producers using fake names are ambushing

Canadians who take a positive view of their country, including an 82 year old Ontario grandfather who invited the film crew into his home. That man, was an 82-year-old retired elementary school teacher from Brockville, Ontario named Brian Porter. And unlike the other people named, which is Francis Whittleson, and the reason they grabbed her is because of the unmarked graves and what she's been talking about there. Lindsay Shepherd had written the book on John A. MacDonald.

And so with this guy, he is not really a public figure, just a civic-minded, John A. McDonald historian buff who gets invited to local events where he reenax foundational moments in Canadian history while dressed up like him. And what goes on to say in this article, guys, is essentially two Americans, Vamos and Gore seem to have lots of Canadian money to throw around as their project has been bankrolled by taxpayer-funded CBC, an indigenous run television channel called APTN, and the Indigenous Screen Office, one of the countless cultural subsidy money troughs run out of the federal government's heritage department. Old told there seems to be at least two dozen actual people working on this docu series.

Counting coup is supposed to be an unscripted half-hour comedy series where an indigenous activist trio uses pranks as a form of social action to flip the script of modern and historical injustices against indigenous people. I could go on, but you kind of get the thing. You haven't seen the video of Francis Wittleson, like literally filming the entire like production. There's a ton of people in there. And then Lindsay Shepard and now an 82 year old retired guy and like this is strange. And Chris Sims was just on the podcast yesterday talking about how this isn't journalism. Well, I read, I read through all of that, uh, the other day, the last

couple of days has been evolving. And of course, CBC does this at arm's length, right? Like they're, they've got their proxy to do their dirty work for them. And thankfully, I already can't remember her name, because I used to drink a lot. But the lady who basically caught on and was videoing and recording from her side, thankfully. Francis Wittles him. That's her. That's the one you got her right. Like, otherwise it would be deny, deny, deny, deny.

You know, this kind of a thing. Like how you can't do it. If you're going to get interviewed by any of these people, you have to record from your side because none of them are good. Can I just point out that the federal government's funding, you know, APTN and CBC, to make this, attack the heritage of Canada, but on the flip side saying, no, no, no, you're Canadian, you should be proud of that.

You know, there's no reason to become an independent country because Canada has a proud and illustrious heritage. These are the same people that couldn't define what a Canadian was a few short years ago. No, they actually said there was no Canadian identity. Yeah, we're opposed to national state. There's no Canadian culture. And now that Alberta wants to kind of wrap

ourselves in the Alberta identity, they big, well, now, how dare we, you know? On a, not a lighter side. Oh, yeah, and it's going to go full screen on me. Oh, there we go. Do you remember the blood sport actor, Donald Gibb? This is a tooth thing. He slid it in. Come on, Chuck, you're giving it like a no?

I don't recognize. Oh, man. That's like a, well, this is where I need to, folks, because, uh, Dustin, am I just, is this just my time and era blood sport so blood sport was the precursor to have ufc well and he was the big guy in it he was the american he was the american with jean claude van dam oh yeah okay yeah yeah and bloodsport came out and it was a few years later that ufc modeled itself off of essentially the movie blood sport and that's how ufc came to be i did not know that now you know normally i have every and everything normally i have it all

teed up. Tews is sitting there but we'll see if any of this is going to work folks so let's just pull this up okay I'll uh a Calgary man was arrested for starting grassfire that's not Calgary man

that's Brampton man Oh man the state of Canada is a strange place You know like for those outside of Canada You're probably like What is going on there? there. It's a strange, strange. I mean, like, don't get me wrong. Me and Duss, we met for coffee this. Yeah, like, we met for coffee this morning and there's lots of great things going on. But you look at the headlines of what's happening in our country. I don't know. You take a drive, say to Calgary,

I did yesterday. And, um, you know, truck me and you had a chat about this the last time you were here. Like the highways, you got to have your head on your shoulders. Because it's, it's, it's, and I don't even know if it's all immigrants. Like, at, this point it could just be terrible drivers with cell phones. But the highways these days are strange places, even when conditions are perfect. When I come out to Lloyd, which is about the only highway drive and I really do anymore, here and there around here, but there's been a few times, basically I view every semi-truck now, which I used to view maybe 10 years ago as essentially the safest drivers on the road.

Those, they were, you very rarely saw a semi-truck driver do something where you're like, what the hell is this guy doing? But now every single one of them I treat like he's a VBIED and I'm like very aware of being around them now.

And I don't know if they're all from Brampton or not. There is a lot of things. I mean, we break it down every week. We just do. I mean, it just keeps coming up. I mean, dude, well, I mean, they're being busted at every type of testing place now with all these scams going on. They're in the same in the States.

They're having the same problem there. But part of the problem, too, is, you know, nobody wants to say it out loud. Nobody, you don't want to be a noticer. Well, that's fine until it's your family that's getting smashed by a gabillion ton truck. And dude standing there in his flip-flops smoking a cigarette on a cell phone after, not getting. given a shit that he just wiped out two more families. You know, people better start noticing. Marin, we've changed that.

So hopefully the audio echo cancels on the attachments. Thanks for pointing that out. Yeah, it does. I just wanted to note, Chuck, that at your age, it's not surprising you don't drive too far and probably not at night anymore. Hardly. I have to turn the radio down when I'm, like, confused about where I am. I really do that, actually.

Speaking once again of the economy, because it's booming and Canada is a great place and everybody's moving here and all the things. Canada loses 18,000 jobs in April. Unemployment rate rises to 6.9%. Statistics Canada Labor Force survey on Friday showed a slight drop in jobs in April as the unemployment rate climbed higher. The agency said the economy shed 18,000 jobs in April following an increase of 14,000 jobs in March. The loss came as the unemployment rate rose to 6.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5. compared with 6.7% in March returning to where it was in October last year. While Canada added 67,000 more jobs on a year-over-year basis, the country has lost 112,000 jobs since January, mostly in manufacturing and wholesale sectors.

The last time Canada lost so many jobs in a four-month window was October 2020 to January 2021 during the pandemic, and in a non-pandemic times, you have to go back to 2009 when Canada lost 240,000 one jobs in a four month span. So you should break out by province because every time I see this stat, Alberta and Saskatchewan are adding jobs month over month. And so if you take those jobs out of there, the rest of the Canada is actually way worse off than when it actually shows. Yeah.

Yeah. Now, um, one that I think a lot of, um, certainly people in this audience, certainly content creators have been talking about. is Bill C22. Does anybody know what I'm talking about? Yeah,

there's been a couple of media companies come out. Signal being one. Well, signal that's, another. Yeah. Come out and essentially said that they, they will pull out of Canada by the looks of it

because they can't operate under those conditions. Signal warns it would pull out of Canada made to comply with lawful access bill. Secure messaging service signal, which uses end-to-end encryption as warning it would draw from Canada. It says the bill would require telecoms, internet companies, and other electronic service providers to make changes to their system

to give its surveillance capabilities to police and the Canadian security. Intelligence service to combat threats and criminal activity. Signal runs on its own centralized servers. The only user data at stores are phone numbers. Users last login information and the date joined the service.

The users, contacts, chats, and other information are stored by the users themselves on their phones. The bill would require core providers, which would later be defined through regulation to retain metadata for up to a year. And so it's quoted Bill C-22 could potentially allow hackers to exploit these very vulnerabilities engineered into electronic systems with private messaging services serving as an ideal target for foreign adversaries.

I'm less worried about hackers than I am about why our government needs warrantless access to all of our electronic usage. like this is this is north korean level people got upset about the patriot act in the states basically doing full-time snooping on everyone this is what that is this is this on another level i mean some of the other uh social media and other platform type uh organizations have said no they won't comply with with this thing but so like signal providing the door to get in there i'm not worry about hackers hacking signal. But if the government has all your data, I'm worried about the government having all the data and doing stupid stuff with it, like restricting or

putting on a blacklist or whatever. The other problem is that the government getting hacked once they have all the data, that's way more of a concern because how many times the government got hacked and a bunch of records get released and the gun records, all of that stuff. Like, that's been hacked. I mean, dude hacked, that idiot during the convoy hacked and got everybody's information there that our own government sent a Canadian forces spy plane I think the only one we have to be honest over over the convoy and harvested all that information that's not legal it's really not legal from a military perspective to do that in Canada like that's on a level on citizens dude just to operate when we would go to a flood or an ice storm or fire out in BC or something um for us to do certain

things, for us to have certain equipment, for us to have certain abilities, took a lot. Like, there's a lot that has to go through just to, for them to use a spy plane to harvest information from their own citizens, that's big time no-no. If this was the U.S., if this was the U.S., and they did this over some, if they did this over some protests down there, some event down there, some, you know, Charlie Kirk two years ago in an event of his, and they flew a U.S. spy plane over it or a drone over. over it, harvested everybody's cell phone data. Dude, the spice would be off the charts, but here we are, you know.

What's the line from Dune about spice? It's good stuff. Spice controls the world? Yeah. Something like that. And once again, where are you at, too, is where your pop culture mind, you could probably fill that in for me. Something, something to do with the spice in Dune.

I feel a character, character, character, sure, can't say the word of Chuck and Dune coming together. CBC spends 59,000 on legal bills to keep subscriber numbers secret. The CBC has spent 59,000 so far on lawyers to fight an order directing it to disclose subscriber numbers for its gem streaming service, which is, you know, like this is the taxpayer. Is that about 10 gram versus subscriber to keep them quiet? Pretty much, pretty much, right? Like, I mean, pretty wild. Taxpayer funded provider, spending our money so we can't see what they're actually doing

and how many subscribers they have, paid subscribers that is. And, uh, there's a couple less money than they spent on the, uh, mockumentaries of widowson and, uh, and, and the old guy, the old professor. The old guy. Yeah, you, you totally got the old guy. You totally embarrassed them. Here's a this is um once again folks this is where I need twos but life goes on so we're going to have a little fun this morning and we'll see if this works or not

oh man twos is going to have a field day on 209 when he comes back because he's going to be like you need me shot I can already hear it and he's going to be yippin regardless drivers normally I like I'm is I just clicked on all the tabs so uh this says seen at 75 street white mud just recently after vehicle crash. into the LRT and caught fire. So let's take a look, shall we? It's going to be on his phone, right? Because that's not on the end of the LRT. That's like into the middle of it. Yeah. Yeah.

So there's that in Amundon. Okay. What do you got next first two's on drivers? We got breaking seven GTA residents charged with 25 criminal offenses and OPP probe into alleged bribery scheme for G-class driver road test at multiple drive test centers in the greater Toronto area. And it's Farhad Sanda's and then Sava, Ganchi, Maselli. That doesn't matter.

I can't do it to us wherever you're at, leaving me abandoning me on trying to do the the names. So there you go. You've got that in Toronto. You've got this, this is just bins at around 12.30 p.m. a city transit driver ran into and got high centered on a concrete barrier in a construction zone on McCarthy Boulevard. It kind of reminds me of the bike trips across Canada when Lori ramped up the boulevard and the cement building. So for the audience members, Dust and I biked across Canada with a Lori, shout out to Lori if she ever tunes in or is tuning in, I should say.

and you get it be driving or you'd be biking for you know so this is 2006 so you're you're biking along and you're biking for a hundred kilometers in a day you can imagine it gets a little monotonous and normally I led the way but coming in to calgary we thought oh it'd be nice Lori's from calgary let her lead the way and she somehow ramped up one of those cement barriers with a with a sign on it broke the sign off and we're trying to like yeah she's not going to do it and she hit it perfectly And that's what Dustin's referencing right now. She hit that sign about three feet off the ground and broke the sign off at the base.

And we were worried that she killed herself. And like she did it perfectly. This is a little bigger than a bike. And that is a bus high centered on, yeah, you get it. Okay. Speaking of the bike tour, I don't know if I do the bike trip across Canada anymore. No, I think about it all the time. I'm like, I, you know, like I just, I, yeah.

I don't think it'd be safe at all. No. Okay, what do you got next to? This is maybe, oh man, of course I got no sound, I bet, right? No sound.

Why would I have sound? Not that I'm shocked. I'm not saying women cannot drive or they curb wheels all time or anything like that. I'm definitely not saying that they're not as good of drivers as us. I'm not saying that we're better.

I'm just saying I'm shocked. Wow, wow. Oh, they follow us because they're following the base truck. They followed them. face truck. No way. Oh my god. All 11, Bob, follow the face truck. No way. Stop it, dude. Stop it. No they didn't. Again, I'm not saying it work better. No, they did not follow the paste truck. All right, one to know this time by. There's no way that's ever happened before. You have got to be

kidding me. They follow the face cup. Oh, where, yeah, do we need to even say anything? No. I will say that they kept their formation really good and no one touched any. I mean, it's racing. Yeah. This is a vehicle drove into the Regal Place library. Oh, boy.

Yeah, there's that. Oh, man. Yep, through a library window. And then this is a motorcycle crash at 120th. 72nd in Surrey today and ended up hanging from a stream. I wonder if he was high. Oh, man. Look at that.

It was perfect. He's not. Oh, man. He stuck the landing. Oh, crap. That is something. Wow. All right.

No, that's a new one I've never seen before. Okay. What else do I got for you? This one, okay, everybody knows Elliot Page at this point, Ellen Page, right, turn Elliot Page. She might play the mythical hero Achilles in the new movie. Like Christopher Nolan? This can't be inspired.

I don't get it. I just don't get it. It can't, like, is this true? Like, when I search it out. It's a real thing. Like, I think it's actually happening. Well, when I, I know. I know that she's he's in, she's in, whatever, in the movie.

She isn't confirmed. It isn't confirmed Achilles. It's an unknown role. And they're doing, you know, they're going, well, nobody's confirmed to play Achilles. So they're kind of doing simple addition here is what I take from it. In today's- favorite director, Sean?

Well, he is. But you know what's funny when I watch the movie trailer, I'm like, you know, I don't know. This is one of those ones. I'm just not that interested. Why is that? And now this, I'm like... It's kind of like Snow White,

when the seven dwarves weren't actually dwarves. Even though dwarves are like the... Like, how many movie roles the dwarves actually get? Lord of the rain. And then you're actually not going to cast them for the seven dwarves? Like, that's pretty tough. Yeah. I don't know.

You go from Brad Pitt and Troy, you know, Achilles is like a demigod in this mythology. Or I guess less mythology. than actual like history on some level now but uh it to to to elliott or l whatever page is now to really like nobody's going to show if that's the case if that actually is what's happened nobody's going to show up to watch this um two's texted in the elliot page in book 23 achilles kills 12 children that's what two said they had some flaws the lethbridge correctional center

now called, I don't know how to pronounce this guys. I don't know. Natukusuku Khan to make its indigenous inmates, 40% of the population feel at home. Well, I don't know. I worked corrections for almost 10 years. We had a lot of former Lethbridge inmates. And they had a whole bunch of different names for that place. And I don't think any of them are going to be able to pronounce this either.

Like, it is what it is. I mean, and you don't get to go to Leithbridge by being, you know, singing too loud in church. You go that, you do Fed time. You're a real deal, especially going to a place like that. That's the real deal, man. So if you're a First Nations person, do you want, like, a correctional facility named after something in your, like, language? I don't know. It's really not something you want to, like, connect.

I don't know what the reasoning is. It's, I'll say this, though. when they say 40%, that's a little low on what I saw in my 10 years, I'll be honest. It's a lot. Like Chuck, the government comes up to you and says, you know what, Chuck, you've been great public servant.

What we're going to do is name the correctional facility, the Chuck Prodnick correctional facility. Like, are you sitting there going, wow, that's great. Yeah. If he's the guy working it, it's one thing, but the guy's staying in it. I mean, I don't understand the, it's like when they renamed Hobema out here.

You know, again, they did this while I was working corrections, and we had a lot of clients from Hobima. It's a very, it's spicy. Then they renamed it to I can't muskice or muscoese or some, even they couldn't pronounce it. They're like, like, we don't know either. We didn't. Who knows why they did this? Like it's, to them it was still Hobema. I mean, eventually, of course, that was quasi-pronounceable,

but these things with 38, you know, syllables, I mean, good Lord. I can barely speak this language. If they're smarter, wouldn't they have called it the ditch billy correctional center or something? I don't. Yeah, I don't know. I don't understand the rationale. I mean. The, the saga of Canada Post continues.

Fed's Greenlight $673 million to keep Canada Post to float this year. Just keep going. Yeah. And CBC, just keep going. Shoveling the money to it. I don't know anybody that actually uses Canada Post. Like, I don't. I go to get my little box down the road here, and it's almost entirely always just flyers.

I don't understand that part of it either. Like, just shoving flyers in there. I just shove them into the next thing. Like, I don't know. Here's, you know, for the Brothers Roundtable Dust, this is on the sports decks this week. Chuck Knoblock, Chris Knoblock, canned. I don't know much to say. Well, I mean, I know Tews is going to somehow spin it into the oilers suck, but I'm like, on this one, I feel like the Oilers do suck.

It's like, do they have a plan? It doesn't feel like much of a plan. It just doesn't feel like much of a plan. I don't know if you got any thoughts. As a Calgary Flames fan, you really can't sling any mud because they've got nothing before them that looks anything promising for a team. I never heard of her. I couldn't tell you.

I don't really follow hockey anymore. Tooz says the world is healing. Here you go. All right. There you go, folks. Sports Illustrated returning to beautiful women. So as twos would put it, the world is healing. I think Victoria's Secret's going back to.

actually having models that are attractive as well. You know, at some point, maybe the movies will catch back up because in Snow White, the evil queen in the last movie is actually more beautiful than Snow White herself. And if you look at this new Troy movie or whatever it is, you know, the woman that the whole world is fighting over is, yeah, kind of mid. I don't think I'm I don't think I'm sailing a thousand boats to go you know take Troy for her.

No, that's not the face that launches a thousand ships. No. No. No. No. Okay. Has some happy news before I let you boys out. A couple here.

Duncan Donuts coming back to Canada with hundreds of locations. Is anyone a Dunkin, are you done a Dunkin' Donuts fan? Are you got Dunkin' Dunkin'? I don't mind them at all. Here's what I'm hoping. Less about what they provide is maybe they'll hire Canadians. If they go with that premise, but listen,

I'll bet you they've already been promised the big kickback all these places get to hire not quite. Can you imagine Duncan Donuts comes into Canada, hires Canadians and pushes Tim Horton's out of business? Because everybody can switch over. I'm fucking there for it. That should be their first marketing campaign. Just that like and the marketing would have to be the right people work in the store, but just like we only hire Canadians or something that to that.

There's a marketing slogan in there for sure where they eat Tim Horton's lunch. Oh yeah. And look, Timmy's 20 years ago wasn't even Timmy's 10 years ago, which is not Timmy's even yesterday. Like it used to have good coffee. They used to bake everything in house and then they started shipping it from somewhere out east. you know, frozen and, I mean, the stuff in Timmy's now, even if it wasn't under the conditions it was, isn't worth eating. It's just, it's the worst, it's not good coffee. Anybody that goes to Timmy's for coffee now, like, what are you thinking? Like, good Lord, go to McDonald's

for coffee's better there. But I mean, if Dunkin' Donuts can actually produce good coffee with the treats, whatever it is they're doing, and hire Canadian, it'll be a powerhouse. They'll kick Timmy's to the curb. Hey, Chuck, have you ever heard my favorite Tim Horton's story? No. So we're biking across Canada, the three of us. And we stop at Tim Hortons, and we've been biking for hours, hours, right? And we're all tired.

And Sean does what Sean does. And Sean likes to talk. And so Lori and I are standing there with Sean. And Sean's just talking, you know, we're kind of half ignoring because we're tired. And he's just going on and on and on and on. No. This is why he's a good podcaster. You never know, right, that he likes talking.

Anyhow, this old lady behind us, tap Sean on the shoulder and goes, you know, I always tell my kids, it's hard to be humble. And then doesn't say another word to him. Sean was quiet for like six hours, just stewing on that statement. He was so, he was so rattled and mad by it. And even now, look at him. Look at him now. He's just like, one years later, Tuesday doesn't show up for one bloody show. somehow Dustin's here and that story's going to come back up

it's hard to be humble Sean she just mic dropped and walked away she did she literally did it was like that's all she said and she left who does that she dropped a top nuke on a stranger and just walked away walked out and it scarred you because it's still i was being pleasant as being pleasant is what i was being

how long ago was this 20 years 2006 You know what I was doing in 2006? Spice. Yeah, you were spicy. Last happy news here. So far in the UK, local elections, Reform UK has stormed the ballot box, picking up 1146 seats.

For context of how big a win this is before the elections, they held just two seats. Starmers' Labor Party has suffered its most humiliating defeat in recent times, losing over 1,000 seats. Don't worry, though. Starmer's staying on his PM, They were only local government elections, not parliamentary, and he doesn't want to plunge the country into chaos. I think I saw it together for sure.

Yeah. I think I saw something like 50 of his own MPs want him gone. Like they know they're tied to an anchor right now, right? He's not a popular man at all. I mean, and it's also funny, and I'm not the guy that pointed this out, but I watched somebody else pointed out. Like basically when Starmor goes up and gives a speech, You can be guaranteed that on either end of that left or right of that speech, Carney is giving the same speech.

Like, their bookended as far as the pattern recognition of what they're saying and how they're saying it, to whom they're saying it, is identical. It means why these guys love each other. A coordinated message. It is. It very much so is. And if you're a noticer and you look around, you see it. You can't help it notice this pattern.

And it is what it is. will he how long he holds on i don't know i don't even know what the next guy looks like for a while it looked like farage might step in but he's gone completely i mean his cheese and cracker not together anymore either so i don't know what i don't know what happens there they're in a they're in a real shit pile is cheese and crackers not together anymore where do you come up with this stuff jamy usually something if it's ridiculous it's probably from jamie so you talk about the coordinated marketing but i think when it comes to what's coming down the pipeline when you know energy prices spike, which I think has to happen eventually.

And it's going to happen eventually here. I think there's going to be a coordinated response between places like the EU and Canada, because Canada's signaled that it's going to go along with whatever the EU does. And I think there's going to be a very coordinated response as well. Yeah. Well, Starmer and his people are doing to their oil industry what ours is doing to us out here in the West. I mean, he's not granting them any more licenses to drill in their waters. but they get a lot of their oil from Norway,

which is kind of who I would model Alberta on should we get to separate or when, when we separate. Norway's got 5 million people. They've got massive pension plans. They've got an actual free healthcare system that works because it's fully funded and there's 5 million of them, although they're having a bit of an immigration influx as well, if you know what I mean.

So it's one of those things where people say, well, you can't do it now, there's only five million of you and you just did the blah blah well Norway's been doing it for a long time because they said drill baby drill and they're rich as fuck like dude you know they got it going on all we have to do is that once Venezuela unscrews itself here out now that Trump's liberated them dude they're going to be possibly the richest people in the western hemisphere you know depending on how things go it's all all that potential is there based on oil they this green energy thing, it looks good. It looks good for these politicians to get themselves elected, but we all know

that it's a farce. So what's going to happen in Eastern Canada, what is also going to happen in Europe, is there's going to be actual shortages. Yeah. And so that's why I sit there and goes, there are going to be a national energy program too. Well, if Eastern Canada can't get oil and natural gas, either because it's too expensive or there's not enough oil to go around and and they just don't get it because China and India and all these other places outbid them, what's Ottawa's response going to be? Well, we can't have Eastern Canada go without,

even though we blocked the Eastern Energy pipeline back in the day that would have delivered them product so they had it. So what are we going to do? Well, they'll do what they're trying to do. You have to sell to Eastern Canada at this price. That's what I'm guessing is going to have. That's what they'll do. Or they will,

because I've seen a lot of this. rhetoric now during the run up to the canvassing and the signature collection for this referendum thing, you know, it's Alberta's dirty oil all the time. It's just our dirty oil. But when we are about to leave with our dirty oil, well, now it's Canada's oil. They'll try to nationalize it. They will try to nationalize it. And I don't mean just a light energy plan thing. They'll be like, no, now that these companies, because these companies are pulling out left and right as it is. there's no point to them even trying to do anything productive here like they'll go to mexico you know they'll do whatever they got to do well and the other funny thing about all this

is because there's no not enough pipelines going east they actually have to load it in a tanker on the west coast yeah and then sail it around to the east coast yeah the east can use it it it we we do it to ourselves every other country looking at us just shakes their head like they they're what are you doing to yourself like it makes no sense none of this and that's there's a bunch of reasons Alberta needs out but this is a this is a primary one for me is without us without Alberta separation

my kids have no future they're older than your guys as kids but your kids coming up now you know I met your young fella you know when we're at the event Dustin and like unfortunately for them as difficult it is for my kids right now there is no future for kids 20 years behind them. There'll be no industry left for them. There'll be no country left for them. That's a recognizable Canada. Well, and I mentioned this the other day that like the boomers don't

understand. My kids are are close to leaving that, you know, leaving the home and setting out their lives and setting roots somewhere. And like my son probably be an engineer of some sort and he'll probably end up in the States quite honestly. And it's like, well, do you, find a way to keep him here. It's like, well, I'd love to have my son work a great job and live near me. Like as a parent, that makes a lot of sense, grandkids, all the rest of it. But the way things are going, if something doesn't change, he wants to leave. I go, yeah, that makes sense. And that's what the boomers don't understand because their kids have roots and they've settled. But for the people who have kids right now and you're looking down the road, like, okay,

what's going to happen when they go out on their own? Do you know, do you want them to stay here or not? And without opportunity, you know, I can see why they'd want to leave. And I can see, you know, you just, yep, no, I agree with you. It makes sense. Move to a southern state so we can come visit. Well, yeah. Gentlemen, thanks for hopping on and stepping in for twos. I mean, that wasn't scheduled by any stretch of imagination.

But I appreciate you guys. Yeah. Appreciate you guys giving me some extra time. Thanks, Chuck. You're much better than twos anyhow. Good seeing you guys. All right, folks. That's going to do it for mashup 208.

Yeah, twos, I have no idea where he disappeared to. Obviously something very important. I don't know what's more important than the mashup, but I'm sure we'll hear about it next week. If you enjoy the show, make sure that you share with a friend, you retweet it out, all those great things. We're here every Friday, 10 a.m. Mountain Standard time.

And I guess duty called somewhere for twos. Either way, that's going to do it for us this week. Appreciate Eva, Dust, and Chuck hopping on today to talk. It's always appreciated when we get guests on to talk about some of the things going on, not only in Alberta, but the rest of the world, the rest of Canada. And just appreciate you guys being here. Have a great May long weekend. It's a throwback.

A little bit of snow out there for all of you. And stay safe. Enjoy the weekend. I should say we're celebrating my parents 50th wedding anniversary this weekend. So did my parents, happy 50th. That's an accomplishment. So that's where we're going to be. Until next Friday, folks. We'll catch up to you then. Tell me whether I'm wrong or right. Easter west up or down side to side. I sit to stand and fall to fly. Of all of my impulsive plans, pop and locking salsa dances on demand. I follow leading off the map to stop the chatter, scream happily. Welcome to the mashup. Welcome to the mashup.

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