Shaun Newman Podcast - Replay #178 - 222 Minutes

Episode Date: December 26, 2025

Today we are going waaay back to the first time 2's was on the podcast, episode #178 on May 31st 2021. The man, the myth & the legend 222 minutes hopped on to discuss the Maverick party, the vaccine & are the best in politics.... Also some funny stories - guys gotta way with words.Tickets to Cornerstone Forum 26’: https://www.showpass.com/cornerstone26/Tickets to the Mashspiel:https://www.showpass.com/mashspiel/Silver Gold Bull Links:Website: https://silvergoldbull.ca/Email: [e-mail] Grahame: [phone]Bow Valley Credit UnionBitcoin: www.bowvalleycu.com/en/personal/investing-wealth/bitcoin-gatewayEmail: [e-mail] Prophet River Links:Website: store.prophetriver.com/Email: [e-mail] the code “SNP” on all ordersGet your voice heard: Text Shaun 587-217-8500

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You get the point. Buckle up, here we go. This is 222 minutes, and you're listening to the Sean Newman podcast. Well, welcome to the Sean Newman podcast today. I'm joined by Mr. Triple-Two, the triple-duce, 2-22. I don't know. Is that good enough? Any and all of it's good enough. 222 minutes on Twitter, and then the podcast is my 222 cents. Just throwing a bunch of twos, and I'll know who you're talking about. That's right. Well, I should point out.

I think it was quick dick that put me on to you way back when. And I started falling you, and I don't know, I was telling a bunch of people earlier today while we were doing this bike for breakfast thing at three trees here in town, my mouth was running away with me because I listened to you all day long. And I'm like, he's got some colorful language, but more times than not, he has me, like, cracking up. And that's not an easy thing to do. Normally, I'm pretty, like, serious when I drive by myself.

And a couple of times he caught me off guard. and you have me chuckling like, man, that was pretty clever. I'm not going to lie. So if you haven't checked out 222 minutes, you should. Thanks, man. It's been a lot of fun, believe it or not. Yeah, cheers to that. Cheers, buddy.

Yeah, it kind of just came out of nowhere. Well, I don't know if it came out of nowhere. Little infant versions of it had been popping up a little bit here and there. Like, I lived in Saskatoon for a few years, and I used to write, uh, I used to write articles for the sheaf, despite the fact that I didn't go to the U of S. So I was just submitting them and then they were printing them and I thought, okay, well, this was awesome. And then actually was kind of funny. I was at a house party one time with a bunch of people and I kind of mentioned it and they're like, no, you don't. Yeah, yeah, I write for the sheep. Like, no, you don't. And then it turned out

they all did. And when I told them who I was, they're like, oh my God. And then one of the guys had this website that I ended up writing a bunch of movie reviews for. And I mean, this was way back in the day. So I did like Love Actually and Spider-Man 2 and stuff like that. I would love to read your review of Spider-Man 2. I hated it. Honestly, and I love comic book movies. And then I had a blog for a little while that was just sort of random thoughts about this and that and whatever else and interesting things that happened in my life because interesting stuff seems to happen to me sometimes.

times. And then that kind of just got to be a little bit too much. And then I was on Facebook and I would just write really ranty posts about what I thought about the government and what was going on with it and stuff like that. And like I had people who were just like, I don't know you, but I've heard that you'd be a great person to be friends with because you have interesting stuff to say. But then as my professional side of my life was evolving, I decided to just totally close that account because they didn't want someone just looking me up and being like, oh, they might not be a good culture fit. And then I kind of had this unused energy and a mostly dormant Twitter account that followed 22 minutes. And every time I saw them, they were doing something

dumb, a week, really watered down. And I kept on saying, I was like, I can do a better job than these guys like off the top of my head. And then one day I was like, screw it. I will. And so I started this new account. And then nine days later was when the liberal, went to Twitter and got them to shut down that Catherine McKenna parody account that was so good at sounding like an idiot that everybody thought it was real. And it really blew up when Brett Wilson

retweeted something that the parody account had said that sounded like something she would say, but maybe a little bit funnier and dumber. That was a really good parody account. It was a great pair. Everybody knows that account. Yeah. And then all of a sudden,

all these parody accounts blew up out of nowhere and it was just perfect. right place, right time kind of thing. And it's just kind of blown up from there. And then some people were asking, have you ever thought about doing a podcast? I was like, well, I mean, I thought about doing a YouTube video. And I talked to a few people about just ghostwriting for them because I didn't want to put my face on it. And nobody seemed really that interested. And then I thought, okay, well, you know what? I could do some kind of a podcast. And here we are. I've done 13 episode so far and it's a great fun i'll pump your tires a bit more like they're fantastic like

um it's very politics is not an easy thing for like most people want to turn the brain off right like they just it's it's very interesting to watch society in like this time where i don't know like whether you want to turn politics off or not it's it's sitting right in front of it like everything that's wrong with the country is just sitting right for everybody to see and people still just want to, like, close their eyes and turn off their ears and not pay attention to it. And now it'll fix itself. And what's wonderful about how you break down things is colorful language is always something that just kind of like is unusual, right? Because if you're 22 minutes, you don't get to do that, right? You just don't. And if my mother looks you up,

earmuffs mom, you're probably not going to like it. So maybe, maybe don't go there. But at the same time you might because it just kind of paints the picture of like this is stupid like why are we doing this and why do they get away with it but you're really well thought out i like how you uh it makes a little bit of sense here and a little bit of your story on what you used to do because i'm like man for a guy to just kind of pick this up and go with it right from the beginning like you your episode one isn't like oh that was rough it was like that was pretty good and by 13 i think you know you you mentioned uh on the phone that uh you were you were worried about being perfect and I don't know man at times it feels pretty damn close to perfect to me I don't know

well I appreciate that I've definitely been getting a lot better I actually went back and listened to one of the old episodes because of something somebody brought up that I just kind wanted to touch base on in case it came up tonight and I felt like it was almost unlistenable right but I've really been and this is what so what did you what did you go back and listen to what was the thing that was bothering you oh well just just my tempo my delivery i was like man this is just so bad like i kind of just go back and delete them or redo them or something like that just because i've gotten that much better just in this short amount of time right but i mean even when i'm doing the recording and stuff like that it'll take me like five hours to do the last minute

edits and and do a whole bunch of takes until i've got something sounding close to what i want and then to cut it all together too, right? Well, see, that's what I enviable, you and even QuickDick, right? Is you guys are trying to like hone this like certain amount for quick tickets anywhere between what, three and nine minutes? I would be safe today. And you're closer to what, 22 to 25 minutes, somewhere in that range? Yeah, ballpark.

I am for 20 minutes. And then I always kind of end up seeming to go over a little bit because at the last minute, I'm like, ooh, I can make this joke. girl I could throw that in and then I'll record it and upload it and then six hours later I'll be like oh I left a joke on the cutting room table like last episode I did I talked about the city of Calgary and this stupid law they have that says that the electronic scooters in town have to have braille on them and how the city council was just full of dumb people and that's not entirely fair there's one guy actually that's really good but the rest of them are just throwaway garbage. and and then the next day I was like the blind leading the blind oh god that would have been perfect and so I mean there's always stuff like that you think about afterwards well that's that's one thing I admire about you guys because you you're trying to perfect your craft where for me man they're going to hear it all I that's one thing I hate about media even social media

everybody loves the little clips but you actually don't get to hear what they actually said you like they cut out two words and then you know it's funny and whatever or maybe it makes them look like a jackass or whatever else like raw mclean last night you know like oh man like we could go down that rabbit hole but i'm just like uh that's kind of what's wrong with society right now is you hear like the three second clip and everybody gets outraged over it and then away we go well and then people don't understand the context like what ron said actually wasn't even offensive or anything like that and you saw that look on the chick next to him's face she was like but really it was it's a pretty commonly accepted term in hockey and everybody knew what he was talking about that

actually follows it but the thing about it is is that taking short clips out of context for hockey commentators and then firing them because of it is something that we already have an established tradition of in Canada. Do we? Yeah. Have you ever heard of this guy named Donald? Don Cherry, yeah. Yeah, I think I know that name. I had a buddy today tell me, twos. I got to figure out this two thing. I got to figure out a nickname for you. But regardless, he goes, best thing that ever happened. Fuck Ron McLean. I'm so done with him and leaving Don where he did. He's getting what he deserved. And I was like, well, I don't know. I don't know. But, and then you go back on it, you're like, but then again, Don Cherry said what he'd always been saying. And that's what they, that's what they took him down for. And what do we know about cancel culture? Eventually it comes for all of us, or I think it does, because that's what they do? They find a target and hone in on it. And the only way it's going to stop, because it's ridiculous. Like, Don Cherry is racist. Okay, what race is he racist against? And then you just get awkward silences and people kind of grumbling and saying that you're mean. But really,

that's the crux of it is that he wasn't actually racist about anybody he's just talking about people not appreciating where they're at in this new stage in their life when they come to a country like Canada and being patriotic absolutely and there's nothing wrong with being proud of where you're from and to take that and use it as a very very slim justification to get rid of him is ridiculous and stuff like that's happened way too much and the only way it's going to stop is if both sides of this just start drowning in blood really like bev oda this is a while back but she was that conservative MP that got the taxpayers on the hook for that 16 dollar orange juice and that worked because conservatives don't want someone managing the funds of

the country which are their money who's willing to spend 16 dollars on a glass of orange juice how big was the glass right and it doesn't work for people like trudeau and any one of his million scandals like this isn't just blackface and white here so i think what it comes down to is that the left and the right value things differently and so on the right you want personal accountability you want somebody who's going to walk the walk and the left think it's more important to have somebody in a position of power or someone recognizable who is going to do and say the things that they want. And they put that higher than personal accountability,

which is why cancel culture doesn't really work on somebody like Justin Trudeau. But if we can get to the point, honestly, and I hate this, but if we can get to the point where there's enough blood drawn on both sides that everyone's just like, you know what, let's never do this again. Fair enough. Do we get to that point? Do you think we actually get to that point? like this has been

I don't know how long we've been in this now two years three years I don't really know exactly when it started I wouldn't even say that Bev Oda was canceled culture even per se but she was a ways before that but just this mentality of you wanting to

eliminate someone's ability to make a living for themselves because you don't agree with what they say it's gone too far it's ass backwards it's absolutely is I have no problems disagreeing with somebody about absolutely everything. I had somebody comment on Twitter today.

They said that they agreed with what I thought about this whole Ron McLean thing, but also that they disagree with about half of what I say. I was like, that's perfect, right? Because even though he's disagreeing with half of what I have to say, he's still interested in hearing it. And we need to get away from this tribalism and trying to be nice to the other side just ends up with us being taken advantage of

and I don't like the idea but if anybody's got a better one I'm all ears I don't know I like a good disagreement because or listen to somebody I don't like because then it forces me to like be like well to kind of be like what the hell don't I like about it

okay and then why don't I like that right and I actually has to force me to kind of dig into my core beliefs of like, okay, so why don't I like this? And then try and articulate that so that you can actually have an argument because no different than you talk about Don Cherry, well, who is he racist to? They've probably never been asked before. And if you've never been asked, he can't be like, well, he was, he was racist to somebody, right? He was racist. I know he was. But if they never really thought about it, they're just angry because they want to be angry because he said you people, if you go through the list of, you know, the,

the amount of you people he said over the course of whatever it was, 40-year career, 50-year career, he said it an awful lot. Oh, absolutely. And actually, that's one of the fun things that I've tried to incorporate into the podcast. I don't know if you've picked up on it or not. But like pretty much, I think I miss one episode, but every episode I put you people in there at least once in as many different contexts as I can. You know what you kind of remind me of like your episodes?

What's that? is like the early days of family guy where it is a little more vulgar because you're swearing more, obviously, which doesn't bother me, but you don't steer away from any issue. You just like hit it head on. And that's, that's fantastic, right? That's why you love, I don't know, back in college, that's why I love family guy. Family guy would talk about everything. They offended everyone so that nobody was really offended because you're just making fun of everybody and that's fine.

it's not discrimination if you're treating everyone the same that's right yeah yeah i definitely loved old family guy they really lost me when they kind of parroted just and trudeau around as some sort of like a a paragon of everything wonderful that episode with him and trump at that point i was like yeah it just doesn't speak to me anymore uh i would go back a few years even before that i i thought their first you know in the family guy world there's probably like eight years of it where it was fantastic you could watch any episode and they just they found ways to make it and then just like a lot of good things right like they go that long like you know you just can't make that same joke a thousand times over eventually it just kind of loses its like shock value yeah that that

that whole same joke thing i've been worrying about that with the podcast because i don't want to get repetitive. And I realized that actually in this week's episode, I repeated a joke that I'd made in like the second or third episode. I just realized that this afternoon. I was just like, oh, no. I knew it was going to happen eventually because they're really dense. Like the scripts are right for them are all around 2,500, 3,000 words. And it's really rapid fire. Like you said, they're 20, 25 minutes kind of thing. And so, you know, with that with that amount of stuff to say, it's going to be pretty easy to overlap yourself a little bit here and there. But I guess unless I decide to get some team of writers or something like that, it's just something that people are going to have to deal with. You, you enjoy it? Pardon me? Do you enjoy it?

I have a lot of fun with it, but I really am careful about not making it something that I take too seriously because if I turn it into something where I think about it, you know, like a job, then I'm going to be worrying way too much and I'm constantly having to check myself in terms of it's not perfect, but I like it and it's fun and it's a hobby and I'm getting better. And so, yeah, I'm really difficult to work with even when it's me, probably especially when it's me. Just because you're critical of how good it is you mean? Yeah, because I just, I feel like I should be able to just make something off the top of my head like that all the time. That is going to be perfect and timeless.

And if you were ever just thinking about some random thing like the NDP, you could just go back to an issue or an episode where I talked about the NDP and, oh, well, that all makes sense now. And I just, yeah. You know, here's a question for you that's been puzzling me for years. you're a guy who follows politics and I ask this all the time and everybody gives me kind of the same kind of answers but you were talking about Calgary

and how it's a bunch of blind leading the blind why is it the best of us aren't in politics or are there some of the best of us in there and I just don't give them enough credit well there's a few really good nuggets

there's some really good people you talked about Brad Wall with Jay last year, right? Yeah. Yeah. And then you've got guys like Alan Kirpin's going to be a throwback. Maybe there's going to be a few people who know who I'm talking about there. I've met with Alan. I met with Alan last week.

Oh, really? That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, you've got guys like that that actually did a good job and cared. And you've got Jeremy Farkas in Calgary. That was the one guy I was talking about who when he went in said, I'm not. even going to take the pension. I'm just here to make the city better and I'm not here to become a career bureaucrat. And people like that are hard to come by because it's very much about teams in politics. And it's a lot more about having your team win than having your team do well. like look at how many conservative policies that aren't actually conservative because they're geared

to appeal to Ontario and Quebec right they're not trying to do the best job they can they're trying to do the best job they can of being reelected because it's the number one priority for a politician and then after that if there's some time they'll worry about trying to smooth things out but you think about it I mean we've been in confederation for a long time over 150 years now and we've still got to have this amount of debate over new policies and stuff like that things are changing kind of fast but you'd think that we'd have most of this ironed out by now if we've been doing this for 150 years but still it's more about having that that illusion of making changes and no one's ever thought like what if we just let it go do we need to keep

a tight rain on this thing or that thing what do you mean? let it go. Expand on that for a second. Red tape, for example. Okay, so all our political parties in Canada have the exact same stance, all our major ones, have the exact same stance on pipelines. And you're going to say, well, no, they don't. But I'm not talking about what they say.

I'm talking about what affects their policies create. So you've got the NDP, the liberals, the bloc, and the Green Party who don't want any pipelines. And you've got the conservatives who say, yeah, we want pipelines, but we're going to put in five years worth of red tape and a billion dollar cost to navigate it on the front end, which is longer than an election cycle. So the effect is, is that no one's, no company, no same company is going to risk a billion dollar investment just to get the stamp. on the approval sheet before they even start work when there is guaranteed to be at least one election before they're done the application process. And so the end result is that there's not going to be any pipelines unless there's some sort of ridiculous guarantee and improvement in red tape.

And the conservatives have never campaigned for that. They were in charge for a decade and they amended the NAB Act, which is what section 52 of NEB Act is what any long pipeline falls under and the threshold was 40 kilometers and the liberals scrapped that entirely but the NDP or pardon me the conservatives amended that a half dozen times the last time they were in power and they didn't even take out the veto so that same veto that Trudeau used to cancel Northern Gateway after they spent a billion dollars navigating the framework and he just saw it on his desk and was like fuck no and just kicked it off the side like a cat that was something that the conservatives could have

taken out at any point the thing about it is is that when you set things up so that anyone's going to do a good job no matter who's in power it takes away the incentive incentives to vote for the people you want so then do you think you know you mentioned alan capan Carpin. Carpin. Carpin. Carpin. Yeah, sure. Anyways, you mentioned him. You listen to Jay Hill. I had Mavericks on, or Jay Hill on last week. Their idea in my brain makes sense. Do you, as a guy who just sat there and says, like, all the major, you know, political parties pretty much are the same bloody way. Do they make sense to you then? Absolutely. It really resonates with me because when you think about it, every political party we have is regional. Even though they run candidates all over Canada, what liberal policies have been beneficial for St. Albert or Leduc or Prince Albert? Probably zero. None of them. Yeah. Even they give a few pet infrastructure projects to the places that got their votes in the last election in western Canada is kind of a way to be like if you guys

vote for us you can also have a little bit of this money that used to be yours but all their stuff caters to the maritimes with their revamping of the eI program and Ontario and Quebec and then even the conservatives they've never addressed the dairy cartels they say they're for small governments, but what you say and what you do aren't always the same thing, right? They've never addressed unions. They've never took them head on. They've never talked about fixing the pension bubble that's just ready to burst all over Canada. Montreal spends 49% of their municipal budget on pensions. Half the money that people spend to keep the city running goes to people who don't even work there anymore. And so you've got all these different parties that

when push comes to shove, they pick an area that's going to win them votes. And they just take everything west of Ontario for granted because it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things because, again, the whole point is to stay in power. And if they want to stay in power or get into power, they need to cater to Ontario and Quebec. It's why the only time that the NDP had any relevance was when they were the opposition, and it was because they swept Quebec. And so you look at it in that way, is there a party for Western Canada? I mean, out of the ones that are existing, I would say no. Because a party that's just going to be slightly less bad isn't the same as a party who's going to say,

I'm going to go to bat for you. Well, I got a, you know your politics. It's, it's fascinating to listen to because I got, I got to be very honest. At 30, you know, five short years ago, I followed politics zero. Like, I just didn't care.

Like, I had zero cares with it. I was just like, yeah, they're going to govern. They're going to do whatever they say. They're going to do. They're not going to do it, whatever. just let me work I'll carry on things will be fine away we go then Trudeau gets in and my brain went I didn't make a whole lot of sense and then he got in a second time and I remember sitting there watching a full election which to a lot of listeners maybe they did the same thing too right like

I don't have a whole lot of politics on the show or I didn't in the beginning it was a it was focused mainly on sports a little bit of history and now I find myself talking about it more and more because I'm just so troubled at where we're going. And if we don't start changing things soon, I don't know what Western Canada is. Like, I just don't get it. So the Maverick party in their platform, I go if they can deliver on what they're talking about,

just like anybody, right? It's easy to say one thing and then go in and do jack crap about it, right? If they could do that, all of a sudden you got something you could put a lot of energy behind. And I feel like good people would get involved. Yeah. Well, I mean, it makes sense and it fits.

And the big argument, and you and Jay talked about this, was vote splitting. I've got a slightly different take on it. And my thought is that it's just as valid for any other party. Because taking votes away from, if you don't want Justin Trudeau to win, you need to vote for the person who isn't Justin Trudeau. And there's about 37 million of us in this country. So to say that that's one person over another one is silly. And when you look at the arguments, they're all moot.

Because every vote for the conservative party is a vote that the PPC doesn't get. So that's vote splitting. Let Maxine Bernier win. Right. And every vote that isn't for the Maverick party is also vote splitting because why aren't you letting them win? If getting Trudeau out of power is so important, why can't you give up your vote for your guy that you probably don't even like right now? Well, you're getting into the nuts and bolts of politics. Well, the thing about first past the post voting systems is that they're set up to just gradually create two parties.

And that creates a system where you end up voting for the person that you hate the least. You probably don't like, you probably don't like either one of them. You're talking about the last election. That's exactly what the last election was. You're like, I don't like either of these guys. Yeah. I mean, Andrew Shear, I'm sure he's a great guy. I've never met him.

But he seems like just the most boring, uninspiring person. And they didn't have anything in terms of policies that I liked. And now with everything that O'Toole just said he was going to do a carbon levy, and it was just going to be slightly different. And that's the thing. If you're voting, if he's got to go all the way over to where he's only slightly different than Trudeau to win an election, what's the point of voting for him? Why not vote for somebody you actually want? Yeah. Well, I agree with you. I go back to last election and we come from a conservative part of the country.

You talk about different areas. We were like a ridiculous amount of conservatives. but you go around and ask how many people like Andrew Shear and once again I will agree with you it has nothing to do with like him being a bad person or anything just as a leader did you look at him and go wow I want to get behind that guy the answer was no you just want to you didn't want Justin Trude Owen again and the popular vote went to the conservatives and at the end of the day it didn't mean anything because that's not the way it's set up no it's it's set up to be broken or pardon me it's it's broken because it's just set up to fail it's not a system that in its current state, it doesn't work for Western Canada.

I mean, we're basically a colony, right? You think about it over the last 20 years, it's been $20 billion a year, $21 billion a year, something like that, depending on what year and which study you look at. But that's $400 billion out of Alberta. And we're 4 million people. That's 100 grand ahead. how many kids you got three three you're a family of five they could cut you a check for half a million dollars tomorrow and that's not even taking into account the time value of money just to just get it

even out the balance even out the the balance they could cut you a check for a half million dollars tomorrow and they'd be like okay well now we're even so here's a question for you why aren't you know i i mentioned why aren't the best in politics right why aren't they like I don't know right you say you play for a team you play for this you play for that I've gotten so many arguments with people like I just yeah I get it it's a big messy system but when all of us just sit back and watch what goes on and go like what the hell is going on why isn't there a group of just like a hundred people a thousand people I don't really care they just get involved why isn't two's involved why aren't you you sound like you're pretty

well versed why aren't you throwing your hat in the ring well I don't think anybody really vote for me. I'm far too blunt about any of this. You think about it, like it's an interesting conversation to have about politics, but if I'm going to have a real conversation about how broken it is and how I want to change it, first of all,

people don't want to hear that. And I think that the machine kind of spits you out before you even get to that point where you can actually become, say, a member of parliament and make a difference. But also, I'm just a little bit too abrasive. and a little bit too honest, to... Don't you think the world needs a little bit of honesty?

Absolutely, but they won't vote for it. You don't think so? No. No, I mean, look at, you said you went back and listened to a bunch of the old episodes. You probably listened to that one about affordable housing and how it doesn't work and exactly why it doesn't work and how it doesn't work. And so if you've got a bunch of people who could use affordable housing and somebody like Jagmeet Singh saying in, you know, that kind of half-blank stare he does when he's just

sort of confused in front of a camera talking about how we need affordable housing. And it's, it's to help people and we need to take care of people. And then I'm going to sit there and do maybe like a five-minute rant on the economics and why it doesn't work, how it doesn't work. I'm going to lose everybody. And the people who want good news are going to hear you're better off figuring it out on your own, mathematically speaking. And that's not the kind of kind of thing that they're going to vote for i don't know i uh i feel like there's a way to say it that isn't so abrasive maybe right like yeah just because i'm all for affordable housing but affordable housing the way it's currently drawn up doesn't work the best thing if if someone wants cheaper

housing the best thing they can do is eliminate red tape thomas soul who's just an absolute beauty of a man And the only reason why he isn't probably the most famous person in the world right now is because he says a lot of things that people don't really like to hear. And he's got this, I think it was in economic facts and fallacies. He went into some really big detail about how red tape is pretty non-existent in Texas. And it's huge in the Bay Area and it's huge in New York. And then he brought in a few other places and he just said, look, whether the more red tape you have, the more expensive it is to build and the less affordable it is.

So if you want things to be more affordable, rather than trying to have a government that's going to put in a bunch of red tape and then patch over it with affordable housing, why not just simplify things and just not have all the red tape, right? Because then also you've got less bureaucrats and someone's got to pay for them. And right now it's our grandkids. well was was politics always like this like you're telling like i find when i bring this conversation up with people that are interested in it they make it seem so part in the french so fucking helpless like listen it's just an ugly thing and you know yeah honesty doesn't win and you know like sorry i'm i'm making you seem like a downer but it's okay it really pisses me off because i'm just like i don't know I feel like if the right people get involved and go in there, maybe it can be changed.

And maybe I'm wrong on that. But to me, I just stare at it and I go like, I don't know, you see a problem. It just needs some leadership in there to help fix it and people roll up their sleeves and get working. Isn't that how countries were formed in the very beginning at the earliest sense? Yeah. And I think it's a great point. I guess my perspective is that if I was to, if I was to try and put my hat in the ring for any, any party, right, Maverick or, or anything, NDP even, right?

Sure. There isn't enough awareness of what's going on and the issues in the general population that my particular brand of fixing things. would appeal to a lot of people. And so I think maybe the best thing I should be doing right now is just trying to get the message out about exactly what's broken and maybe some little steps that could be involved in fixing it. And yeah, in terms of trying to make a change, I mean, I'm not, I just started this just

to be funny and have fun with it. I know, but, and that's what it was at every stage of the evolution. It was just like, oh, well, this is kind of fun. Oh, I can do this too. and I think that that's probably going to do a lot more in terms of getting the ball rolling than me trying to put myself up as some kind of a figure who can lead sweeping change because I haven't even figured all this stuff out myself yet either. Well, I've figured out zero.

Like I feel like I live lived under rock all my life. I just look at it. I say this all the time. I do her, right? Like, you know, we need something done. Let's go get her done. Right. Doesn't mean you got, you go in with the blinders on.

You certainly got to pay attention. and learn and whatever else and I just I just stare back at this and I just go like this has baffled me for five years now maybe longer than that of why we don't have you know like the best of us just you know Bradwall always comes up because to me when I watched him talk still watch him talk I'm like God that guy is a is a leader that guy is somebody I want to follow and he's not in the ring anymore right he's he's you know for whatever reason he's stepped aside and and and and you know taking his lumps for sure uh but i don't know where we're going i have no idea to is where we where we had in here like they're talking about you know the the latest thing that

came out and people can say what they want but i i'm having a hard time understanding it myself so whatever about the vaccination and i know this is this is a taking a hard left whatever sure so alberta says today 50% of 12 and up get vaccinated And then 60% is phase two and blah, blah, blah, blah. And it all sounds nice and everything. I'm like, why the hell are we getting 12-year-olds vaccinated to something that has killed zero of them? There's like hardly any cases of any young person having any ill effects from COVID-19. I'm like really trying to reconcile that thought process out of our leaders.

It makes zero sense to me. I mean, it doesn't, it also really doesn't make sense because you've got this. huge cost involved with the logistics of getting all these vaccines from international companies because we decided to flip the bird to the one in Calgary because it didn't donate to the Trudeau Foundation. So you've got to pull in all these vaccinations from overseas. You've got to distribute them. They've got a limited shelf life. So there's a lot of supply management and there's a lot of cost associated with that. And we're getting government people to do it, which adds a lot more than anybody could do it.

it privately. And so it's just, it's ballooning things just from a cost standpoint. And I don't really know I'm not a doctor. And the problem with COVID is that there's just so much stuff out there that is all politically charged. Like honestly, I have no idea about any of it. Because you'll get a doctor saying one thing. You'll get a doctor saying another thing. And then all of a sudden he's kicked off of YouTube. And it's really weird because, dissenting voice that goes against what the CDC or the World Health Organization is saying is immediately squashed. But they've contradicted themselves just as much. And you don't see them squashing themselves. And the whole thing is just baffling and it's confusing. And it makes

me suspicious of it. Like, I'm not, I'm not crazy about the idea of any of this, but I'm not going to pretend that I am in any way capable of untangling the web. Which is a bullshit answer. Which still makes you sit there and go, there is a web. It makes no sense. Our leaders, I feel like just, man, they've struggled through this thing. Struggle might be a light term. Well, it's been huge.

And there's been so much scaremongering about it. And so then you've got, like in Alberta, you've got the end. NDP, who I'm sure if Notley was in charge right now, we'd all be in cement blocks until the nature took back Alberta and then she'd say it was safe. But that would be about it. So she's just been cheering the whole time. And then, of course, her supporters are all union people, which is all the government employees.

And so it's all about big government solutions and big government solutions and keeping people scared and then Kenny who wants to get as much support as possible is getting close to that and the only big voice in the room other than his is hers and so he's got to acquiesce to it but i mean the conservatives in alberta created the nDP as far as a viable candidate or a viable opponent and so i mean they shit in the bed now they got to lie in it i don't know what kenny's doing he's trying to appease everyone and by trying to appease everyone and by trying to appease everyone he's appeasing no one both sides hate Kenny at this point they're like lock it down hard he's not locking it down hard enough the other side's yelling he's locking

it down way too much and it's just like even in his press conferences he's like trying to like do this dance which is like you you've been doing no dance for like the last six months I don't think anybody's happy with you median voter theorem have you ever heard of it no okay so the idea is just real quick you've got people on one side of a spectrum that want one thing and people on another side that want another thing. And so you've got two candidates who are each trying to cater to them, but also win. And so then they keep moving further and further to the center to try and make up the difference of the votes they need to win. And then eventually you've got two candidates who are pretty much right in the middle with in this area

that nobody likes, but they're slightly not as bad as the other person. Median voter theorem. That's it. That's it. man politics sucks I don't know maybe this will be the puzzlement I have until I die on why people just don't get in and run and I don't know I guess it just baffles me

it just baffles me how they're they're really smart people in our world that understand what's going on see ways that they could probably do things that I think a lot more people than they give credit to would be like yeah that makes a lot of sense like i mean yeah we got to do some things but we got to take some lumps here and we got to we got to do that we got to do this and okay great right and instead we all just kind of hang back and and see what's going to happen here and i guess we're

we're in for a ride because i don't know where this is going yeah it'll be interesting to see like i really hope the maverick party does well i haven't seen much in terms of the finer points of their platform but just as a concept if it doesn't work for the west they're not going to support it. That's a great idea. And the traditional avenue being the conservatives, that consideration always gets weeded out before it even gets brought up because asking for something fair for Alberta in Saskatchewan and Manitoba means taking away some type of entitlement from the rest of canon. And so they don't want to, they don't want to rock the boat. The waters. Yep. Yeah, exactly. So,

sorry guys we're just going to need that if you could get us that 20 million bucks you know by the end of the month that'd be great and also we haven't done anything about pipelines not a winning strategy and so just on that concept alone I think it's going to be really good I'm going to be supporting them unless something unexpected happens I guess never seen ever maybe they've got some weird policy that they're going to roll out that's just going to disagree with me vehemently but But aside from that, it's the best vehicle I think we have within our current broken system to affect change. So you bring up broken system all the time. Yeah, I guess I've been saying that a lot. Sorry. Yeah, well, I just, I guess do you have a theory then on what would be better? I'm working on it. I'm working on it.

So the whole thing about, remember when, in terms of, 2015 the liberals ran on the platform of voter reform they said that the 2015 election was going to be the last first pass the post one and nobody actually believed them because it would mean that they would never have an easy majority again right but the thing when when conservatives are arguing with each other it's kind of like like calvinists and lutherans you know they're just they're almost the same on everything but then there's just a few minor details here here and there and And then they end up just putting up huge roadblocks because if you're not voting for me, then like if you're not with me, then you're against me. And so there's all these big arguments about boat splitting and whatnot. And if there was some type of a ranked ballot, there's a few different other kinds and I'm still trying to figure out some of the nuance of it. So don't don't say that I support specifically ranked ballots for the record. But some type of thing where you can have multiple choices in terms of who you would like to lead. And then even if that guy, that's your ideal guy, doesn't win, you're still putting your support behind someone who can.

And then that's actually going to do a lot in terms of, like on the left and the right, it would do a lot in terms of bringing in new ideas. Because if you're dealing with one establishment and you don't want to do exactly what they do, you've got no chance. Look at the independence in the states, right? because it's all Republican and Democrat. And they've got pretty much the exact same way of doing things. Typically on the political spectrum, they're practically hugging. Generally, they've kind of, the Democrats have kind of gone off the deep end a little bit lately. But any ideas outside of that have no chance of even getting to a point where they could make changes.

And so I really think electoral reform of some kind is. going to be the best thing for Canada as a whole. But generally speaking, I just think that Canada doesn't work for far too many of us that are in it. And we need to think about, are we willing to change it or do we need to just walk away from an abusive relationship? So you're a separatist then. Yes.

So, I mean, you think about it, there's four different possible outcomes, right? one say Alberta just as the center of it because it's the loudest voice right now Alberta walks away they become their own country and then they they can kind of play that Canada US off each other in terms of dealing for coastal access and stuff like that or the other thing is that they get a few provinces and maybe even a few states to go with them they get Manitoba they'll get the Churchill River where it meets Hudson Bay and they've got coastal access there. Maybe they bring the top half of BC and Vancouver wants to stay or even do their own thing. And then the other way is maybe they join the states and do something like

what Puerto Rico did where they're part of the states and they've got kind of the benefits that go along with that, but they don't take on their share of the national debt. Or the other thing is, and I would have no qualms with this either, is if we finally get to a point where we're walking out the door like we've got one foot out the door we've decided we've voted on it we are leaving and then the rest of canada's like whoa whoa hold up hold up hold up what if and then we have that conversation right because nothing nothing that western canada is asking for is unfair like having equal voting power compared to the rest of canada uh alberta's got the the worst it's it's about every 120,000 people get one member of parliament and then on the other end of it you've got

PEI worth 35,000 people so get one member of parliament so effectively your vote is worth about one quarter of what someone in PEIs is even Quebec's the second worst they've got the population to help them out but they've got the second worst and even that's still about 10% higher voter power if you think about it than Alberta So what you're saying is Maverick has to work because that, like, you just go back to it. I feel like for so long, I was just, you know, maybe all of us were just kind of closed off to it and not really thinking too much, right? Conservative, conservative, conservative, conservative. But when you think about it and you talk about how diverse this country is and just that's okay.

It's okay, we're diverse. There's nothing wrong with that. No. I'm totally fine with that. But at the end of the day, a federal party in order to get elected, because that is the job, is it not, to get elected? You have to pander to everyone. You've got to find ways to make everyone happy. And if you're going to upset the East, where all the votes of the majority of votes are, you ain't winning.

Yeah. So it's like... The thing about it is, you ever hear that old adage or whatever, if you chase two rabbits, they'll both allude you. Right. And that's the conservative party's strategy right now in terms of... of re-election and they're just getting trounced in the polls where they're trying to be everything to everyone and as such they're nothing to anyone and Jason Kenney yeah I think I think that the best thing yeah Jason Kenney perfect example I think the best thing that that the

conservative party could do would just be to just say that they're they just written off the west and it would be really counterintuitive because that's where all their power is but I mean unless they did a big change in terms of their paradigm and platforms and stuff like that, it really accurately represents a lot of people in Ontario and Quebec. And I don't fault them for voting for them because it works for them. You've got a lot of people dependent on that dairy cartel. And the conservatives have shown time and the- Tell me a little bit about the dairy cartel.

Oh. Okay. How about just some real quick Coles notes? It's a protectionist industry where you, you got to pay to get in a stupid high amount you can't sell your stuff outside of it and so they control how much they have and how much they're willing to to sell it for it's like the de beers diamond thing you know how de beers controls like 95% of the diamonds in the world or whatever and then they just eek them out a little bit so that people pay more it's the same thing except instead

of rocks coming out of the ground it's glorious it's glorious dairy coming out of a milk's titty. And that's it. It's, you think about it. Are you saying they have an oversupply of milk and with that they're dumping and everything else? Well, they haven't done that historically. But the thing is that they control, they control who's allowed to, like, I couldn't

just, I couldn't just buy a few cattle and start selling milk. You know, I can't just do the bootlegged milk thing. No one's allowed to do that. You've got to work within their thing. And in any protectionist industry, the only people who really benefit are the ones that are in it. But then you kind of got the ripple effects where it's also good for their local economies and whatnot. There was two people in my hometown that had a pool growing up. One guy owned the restaurant and the other guy had the dairy farm.

I'm glad that they have pools, but I'm just saying that it ends up just, it unfairly affects the market and you've got people paying a lot more than they should for everyday household items. Like, look at the, look at New Zealand. They wanted to ship milk from New Zealand

all the way into Canada for a while because they could make a go of it. They could get their milk on a tanker go all the way across the Pacific, which it doesn't get much further than that. And they're doing it diagonally and then get it on trains and then ship it off to wherever the heck they're going to have it in whatever grocery stores.

And they were still going to be able to cut a profit even at the market rates that are in Canada because they're so artificially high compared to what it actually costs to do it. That hurts the brain. Pipelines hurt the brain, Melts hurt in the brain, twos is on a roll

because he's just making my brain hurt today. Well, what else do you want to crack into? Well, the Netflix YouTube thing I was saying to before we started. Like, I guess I just didn't really,

I don't know, as a person, do you, like when it's a subtle, a little change like that, do you really pay attention? Maybe you do, maybe you don't but for most of us you what I'm getting at is uh on one of your

podcast you talk about uh hiding dissenting voices and you use uh YouTube and Netflix and Netflix I feel like everybody can remember this because we went from the star system right like you had no you're rating it with the stars and then you could see what everybody rated it and then oh that must not be that good right so you're not going to watch it now it's just a thumbs up thumbs down and you actually don't see what anything's rated actually at times you see what's the top 10 of Canada and you go are we a bunch of dumbasses why is that number one who is putting thumbs up on that show is still watching tiger king at this point exactly right like it's like okay what's going on anyways that that's what i wanted to bring up

yeah so just real quick i guess addendum to what you were saying because that was exactly right but they went and changed that system right after amy schumer did that gloriously terrible comedy show on YouTube that just got decimated in the ratings and then they're like okay we need to change this what do we do and so rather than where people can see

the rankings like you said all you can see is you might like this and whether you've given it a thumbs up or a thumbs down to just hide you're talking Amy Schumer on Netflix right yeah yeah yeah you said YouTube Netflix she had she was that the movie

no she's been in a few bad movies from what I understand Yes, she has. But this is, I'm going to be on. This is a stand-up special. The funny thing about it is, I don't know why they get so upset. Amy Schumer comes on and I'm just like, yeah, I just got no time for it. Like I watch like 10 minutes over one movie.

I'm like, man, this hurts the brain. Like, no more. So, carry on. Yeah, there's, so it's interesting because you don't, sometimes I guess you don't want people realizing how much you suck or how bad you are. And if there's just this huge collective backlash against something you're doing, you'd prefer if not a lot of people new. And then if you're controlling the things that make that happen, you can do it. And then now YouTube, pardon me, is trying to experiment a little bit in terms of hiding the likes and dislikes for the U.S. presidential YouTube channel

because they're just gloriously decimated. And if people aren't happy with the government, they should, that's something that people ought to know about, right? Instead of just being like, nope, nope, you are going to, you're going to be told that everything's fine and that's it. I don't like that. I prefer honest conversations with people. I was listening to Andy Frizzella.

he's got a podcast it's uh you'd enjoy it okay um what is it called here give me a sec here and i'll pull it up um buddy mine ken rutherford got me onto it and uh some of it's a bit much some of it's like really good it's real as fuck with andy prezella real a f with andy frizzle anyways he's very much on the line of, you know, he's got his own theories, but one of them being that the last election was not proper, right? And I'm like, okay, whatever. Yeah, sure, maybe not. But you talk about dissenting voices and whatever. He starts talking about how, he starts talking about Barack Obama. And when I think of politicians, and the best one of ever witnessed speaking, Barack Obama was by far just care. He still is. One of the most.

charismatic men to ever stand on a stage and talk. Very well-spoken. Oh, my goodness. And at the time, he was the most voted for president of all time. And then Annie Brzele goes, and you're telling me, Biden, who can't piece together two sentences, is the most voted for of all time. And yet he can't get anybody out to his, like, to nothing. And then you talk about the, and I guess the reason I bring it up is because, and I'm talking about his rallies, like there's nobody there, right?

Trump comes out and everybody's going to say, well, it's a difference. You know, Democrats, they don't really like think COVID and they're trying to stay home and blah, blah, blah. It's like, hey, listen, you can say whatever you want. At the end of the day, if he's the most voted for an all-time president of the United States of America, you'd think there'd be some fanfare. Yeah. And it's interesting when you think about it.

So there was like 75 and 78 million or something like that for the two candidates. So you're looking at 150 million votes. And the official stance is that there was no voter fraud. Like if the chances of voter fraud were 1 and 150 million, then statistically speaking, there's a there's one ballot out there that went wrong. So to say, because here's the thing is I'm sure that there's voter fraud in Canada. And I'm, I had, when I ended up graduating, our valedictorian vote had to be redone because of voter fraud. No, this was in university, right? Somebody really wanted that.

Yeah, there was more votes than there were people in the class. And somebody couldn't count. well somebody somebody wanted to win so they tried submit in an extra few votes or whatever and and yeah they're like there's more people in the class there's more there were more votes than there were people in the class so they had to redo it so just to say that voter fraud is this ridiculous concept that never happens is totally untrue but to say no it absolutely did not happen well that's not being honest have an honest conversation about it be like these are some of the holes that we've had this these are some of the issues

You know, we think it's, we think it's pretty darn close. Like the whole point of the election being in the end of November or whatever it was, and then they've got that time before the inauguration where you're actually supposed to challenge this stuff. The whole point is to make sure that it's on the up and up. That's what it's there for. And there's a whole bunch of different things that kind of went this way and that on it. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they kind of accidentally went Superman too a little bit. you know or like office space you know how they just wanted to steal like you know just like

the tents of the pennies and then they accidentally just got a stupid amount of money overnight and then i i wouldn't be the least bit surprised if that's exactly what happened they're like oh i guess he's the most popular president ever is what else are we going to say at this point uh yeah the voter for like i don't know me and uh me and the brother's getting this argument all the time like it does me go no good to worry about it like a i'm just uh i'm not even a fly on the wall in that conversation i'm so far removed from that conversation it's not even funny but then you start hearing like uh you know mailing ballots now coming to Canada and you go like I don't know how I feel about that like I just in Newfoundland they let a few people

vote by phone yeah that wasn't that wasn't just the punchline I made up for the podcast they let I think it was like four people or seven people or something like that vote by phone and so the thing about it is as far as mail and ballots go as a concept on their own they're not inherently flawed but there just needs to be some safeguards in place. Like, you should be able to get some kind of a indecipherable code or whatever that comes along with your ballot. And then you should be able to look that up later on on the government website and see, okay, well, I actually didn't vote for the liberals four times.

So there's an issue here, right? And then, like, they're not necessarily a blockchain type thing, but there ought to be a little bit of traceability and a little bit of transparency in this. You know, it's funny. I don't know why I keep forgetting about this example. We talk about fraud and we go, well, maybe it happened. Maybe it didn't. You know, like whatever.

All you've got to go back to is Russia in the Olympics and the lengths they went to to make sure their piss test passed. Like you just look at the brilliant, like brilliance behind it. Like I'd give them kudos. Yeah. Except you were totally breaking the law trying to like make sure you're not. your athletes get caught and that that's a country like that that is a country and i know we could talk about russia and whatever else but it's like to think that none of us have that ability

on this side of the pond well maybe that's a little far stretch especially when it's a guy like donald trump that half the world truly did hate because some of the things that came out of his mouth even when i went oh man just turned the twitter thing off turn it off yeah he definitely he did some good stuff he did some bad stuff but he definitely shook things up and because of that I think a lot of people on both both sides really didn't like them because everything was nice and easy you just you showed up and you got your multi-million dollar backroom deals and everything was good and then you're like you try and go buy off the president and he's like no I'm good I already got a bunch like well that isn't how it works aren't you supposed to

set up a foundation and then kill Jeffrey Epstein. But yeah, so it was definitely, it was this huge adjustment that everybody had to make. And I think that a lot of people on both sides are really happy that it's gone back to the status quo, where it's just politicians pattering to special interest groups and bureaucrats getting rich while no one's looking what do you think what do you think all the lockdowns across canada i am not a fan i think it's interesting when you look at georgia i think was the first place to open up in the states and now you've got pretty much everybody below the mason dixon line is back to totally normal you see ball games with full stadiums and you're you're

yet I'm not allowed to go out for beers with a buddy of mine. And the economic devastation has just been horrible. There's a lot of businesses that don't exist. There's a lot of industries that don't exist anymore because of that. And that's going to take generations to come back from. And Jay talked about the brain drain. There's a lot of people that have left Western Canada lately. and if this keeps up and your only viable option is to go somewhere where you can actually make a living,

you're going to have to do it, right? And there's been a lot of mental health. I mean, how many people do you know that drink more? I ask you as you take a sip of beer. How many people do you know who drink more today than they did 16 months ago, right? Well, try and put this properly in the last 14 16 months the thing that i have seen that has been more evident than anything has been the mental crisis that is starting to impact a ton of people's

lives and on top of that then comes i don't know drinking uh just not good things for the the well-being of a person. And I'm not sitting here trying to make it out like everybody's like that. That's not true. But it's more evident to me than COVID is. Like it's it's like, well, that's not good. Like that's really not good. No, it's absolutely horrible. And it's really interesting because that conversation about if it saves just one life, well, we need to lock down because if it saves just one life, it's worth it, regardless of the cost. Well, we need to open up because if it saves just one life, it's worth the cost. Right. I mean, I've heard some stuff about suicide spiking lately.

I don't know any specifics of it, and I can't really verify it, but it would make sense. I imagine that there's a lot of broken families that have come out in the past year and a half. And a lot of people that mentally probably aren't able to do as good of a job as they could in terms of being effective at work and things like that, right? Because you're going to come back and you're just, just, it's like Lindross with the concussions, basically.

Because I think that's going to be, that's going to be the way for a lot of people. And that's going to hurt our GDP, and it's going to hurt their ability to live comfortably. And there's just so many ripple effects. Yeah, I don't think you can feel, you can't see, people don't live 10 years from now. I mean, I don't live 10 years from now. It's hard to see where we're going. You can just feel like we're not going somewhere we want to be. Like, we just, like when Jay Hill, you know, he's talking about the dead.

And I go, like, just break it down for me so I can understand, right? Like you're talking billions and trillions of dollars. It means fucking nothing to me. We'll be like Venezuela. It's like, okay. Yep. Now we're talking. All right.

You know the nice thing about Venezuela, though, is they don't have any sort of vermin. It's they're rat free because the people have eaten them, right? And so, I mean, Alberta is already rat free. But if we want to get the rest of Canada on board, probably the simplest way to do it rather than some mass eradication program or some government thing that we could implement with exterminators, let's just all be socialist for a while. That's a scary thought. Yeah, I'd rather have a few rats personally, right?

But yeah. I've read enough Russian history to know like, oh, man, back, what years was that? The 50s? Well, I mean, that depends on which part of Russian history you want to talk about yeah well they're they just talk about cannibalism and i'm not i mean geez i'm going to a dark spot here but they talk about eating rodents and they talk about you know like they just they talk about it not being a good place because they just had nothing and on top of it it's fucking cold for a good chunk of the year right yeah i mean i guess bonus if you're a cannibal a human's a lot

to eat in one sitting and it's probably not going to go bad for a few days because it doesn't get warm enough. You know what, on a side note, I was reading a Big Bear's book. I still haven't finished it. But Big Bear was one of the leaders from around this area back in the 1800s. Okay. And in his book, they talk about the Buffalo slowly disappearing and, you know, and roaming and trying to find things and starvation setting in.

and they wrote about cannibalism in there. I don't mean to be nonchalant like it wasn't a big deal, but like they'd seen it enough that they knew the signs of cannibalism. And I'm like, that is crazy. Yeah. Right? Like that's, I mean, that's well over 100 years ago. But that's, that's in this area.

And that's back in a time, you know, when by all means, people from the states in Canada and Britain decimating the Buffalo population and taking away their livelihood yeah 100% but the fact that like smallpox was was roaming the lands back then just decimating the population that way as well and then on top of it for it there to be stories in there about cannibalism I was like oh man that's tough

yeah you see like it's one thing to be able to look at someone and say oh yeah that guy's from manitoba it's a totally different thing to be able to look at someone and say that dude's a can't that that guy's ate that that person's you know feasted on you that's right you think they talked about them having the shakes like especially i don't know what the you know i think i've heard something about that before i i don't know the finer points of it i think it was something to do with eating their brains or something but yeah i've heard of something like that at some point well once again i just you know like This is a, I go across the river to Frenchman Butte and, uh, and the museum there. And I said,

well, what's the best book you got? Oh, this one. All right. It's about Big Bear. It's fantastic. It's, it's very interesting. It's, you know, for the longest time, I didn't understand why, you know, like Joe Biden, right? How old is he? 78? Eight. Yeah. And everyone's like, including myself, why would you ever elect a 78 year old makes zero sense to me? On the book, it actually makes it, you know, back in the day, they had two leaders. They had the peacetime leader, who was the old elder, who just had seen a lot and knew how to navigate things. But then they had the 30-year-old or 40-year-old, when war came and you needed to go to war, you needed somebody energetic and ready to go into battle. And so they had two leaders, one for wartime, one for peace.

And I was like, well, maybe that's why Joe Biden actually isn't a terrible fit. Maybe he isn't. Maybe he isn't. I don't know. Well, how much day-to-day stuff do you think? he's doing at this point. I'm planning, like, I mean, the guy, the guy

can't form a coherent thought. I said in the last podcast, they said, I'm sure he's going to sign this thing in crayon, right? About a new bill that's going through. And the other thing is combine that with how actively they've been propping up Kamala Harris.

Because I have never seen a vice president. And I'm not super, like I haven't been following politics since I was four or some crap like that, right? But I have never seen a VP get as much publicity as Kamala Harris has, not even close. And I think they're just gearing them up to either gently step down because they don't want a scandal, right? But just gently step down and just be like, hey, I'm a little bit too old for this or just have a heart attack and pass away at the age of 78 with two bullets in the back of his head.

Do you think Joe goes to beg going, well, hon, I wonder if they're going to come do it tonight then. Is that what you're saying? Well, I mean, if I was Joe Biden and I thought they were going to kill me, I would have ran the exact same campaign he did, which was stay at home. Like, he could not have tried to win that thing any less. And I'm sure. you know what I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he looked at it and he was like

Hillary is going to murder me if I win so I'm just going to stay in bed that's why he had the stutter I don't know maybe I just I feel like he didn't even try and half ass it and the amount that he phoned it in told me that he didn't want to win at all and it would fit if he figured that they just kill him off and make Kamala run things You know, it's funny, after I watched two of the presidential debates, I actually thought he did have decent. Like, he, but then again, he's up against Trump.

So I honestly, I don't know. It's such a hard thing to like, you got Trump on hand where at times he just should have said nothing. Like, literally had to say nothing. Yeah, absolutely. It's, it's interesting. When you look at Trump, he seems like someone who would do really well in terms of dominating a boardroom. And that kind of seemed like his approach to the. debates and it comes across comes across is really aggressive and debating towards the other

person and it really wasn't the right tactic for that it didn't it i think it made joe look a lot better and it was interesting that that version of joe that was at the debates haven't seen them before haven't seen them since it was really quite remarkable you know you're kind of half expecting them to come out there with like an iv bag or something and then he just shows up and acts like a man 20 years younger than what he is and then just goes back to frail and confused immediately afterwards like they just they had a chip in his brain but it only had enough power to work for 60 minutes uh i got to ask coming back to canadian politics here farmcat had asked on on on on twitter who you think would be a prime candidate to run

in the next election for the maverick party who would you like to see sign up for the maverick party our good friend quick dick i think would be great uh is quick dick ever going to get into politics i don't really know him well enough to speculate i think that but we can speculate quick dick is listening right now in the tractor balancing along or in blue ball or wherever he's at he's listening to this so we get to speculate yeah that's right i think i think it's going to be a logical destination for him at some point like where because I mean he's just it it's going to be either that or he's going to get a TV show it's going to be one or the other right because he's just doing too well with what he's doing and it's resonating with too many people and he's got a

completely different message than I do his is positive and uplifting and mine is everything's garbage and people like hearing that and just it's it's great to see the viewer count when he go to his YouTube videos and stuff like that it's it's absolutely wonderful, right? And the thing about it is, is he's also really active in the community. You know, he's helping out with Tell a miracle a little while ago. And he's done all kinds of stuff for like stars and other fundraisers and whatnot. And, uh, and, uh, quick, if you're listening, I can't wait to, uh, see you on a pedal bike in about 10 days when the bike for breakfast from Lloyd comes to your front door. And we'll see who's faster, big shooter. Yeah,

that'll, that'll be good. But yeah, I think it'll be interesting because he's a guy who generally cares about trying to make things better and I think that that would probably appeal to him and I think it would just get to the point where he would just be such a household name in Saskatchewan and Canada really there's lots of people always commenting from you know watching you in barry Ontario or whatever else right and so he'd be a shoe in at a certain point as as a candidate if he just wanted to put his hat in the ring and so for that yeah I think it's an easy logical conclusion and there's lots of there's lots of MPs that still keep farming on the side so it's not like he'd have to quit his love does he keep the beard if he becomes a politician

it's his uh it's i don't want to say schick but it's it's quick can't think of a better word right uh he put some old video he did where he was just totally baby-faced and it's it's funny to look at you almost don't even recognize the guy I'm not a huge fan of the beard myself, but it's totally him, right? And it totally works. So that's fine. I'm not a fan of the beard, he says. I love the beard.

Quick, don't get rid of the beard. I look forward to seeing that thing in person, live in color. Yeah, that's going to be great. You guys are going to finally meet in person. Well, you're just becoming a long list of people that I met through doing this. It's been the, you know, of all the things. I've hated about COVID, this has been one of the best, most positive things that could possibly happen, which is, I've been having these wonderful conversations with multiple different people

that I've never met before through a screen and just talking about, like, yeah, I don't know, like, I consider it relevant to what's going on currently. And whenever, when else would you have gotten to do this? Like, when would, like, if COVID wasn't a thing, maybe the twos would have come along and been just as popular maybe it wouldn't have right like maybe you would have been down a different alley and not even thought to start this yeah well i mean i've been doing the twitter thing for coming up on a few years i guess but the podcast i don't know it's just listen your your twitter's good your podcast is better that's well but i mean keep in mind that twitter's where i kind of try out jokes and things yes hone things yes

Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, it's the, it's the filter that everything goes through before it ends up on the podcast. So, yeah, I try things out. And I'm like, oh, this is an interesting idea where people are interested in hearing about this or this joke absolutely killed it. Funny thing is, though, that written word doesn't always translate as well to spoken jokes and the other way around. I've written some stuff that's absolutely hilarious. But if you said it out loud, it would just land flat. try me oh just uh it was interesting i had this i'm not going to get into it too far but on that blog that i had a million years ago i told this really really funny story about a bad experience in mexico and severe dehydration and the medical difficulties i had with my backside and it was just absolutely like it was it's one of the funniest things i've ever written but you read it out loud and it just it doesn't sound funny at all i feel like you're leaving out like half the

details uh i don't know um i went down to mexico i got really really drunk for a lot of days in a row and it was hot and so i mean i was at the point where there was like no moisture in my system aside from from lime juice and beer and uh and then i went on this just ridiculous random thing where i was supposed to get on this booze cruise and i ended up on the wrong one and then i wasn't there with anybody i knew and so i ended up meeting these random people and then this dude asked me if i wanted to smoke some weed and that's not really my thing but i'm like i'm on vacation sure i'll try some and then this girl comes up and she's all like hey man man has it going and being all flirty because she wants a hit and then um we're just standing there

talking and then her boyfriend shows up and and uh and then I didn't realize but the pipe was empty and then she was like you were uh you were lying to me about weed to try and get sex and I was like you were lying to me about sex to try and get weed and then her boyfriend's just howling and then we end up at some other random bar and then I get back. and I'm talking to this girl at the at the hotel and the night's been a bus but then all of a sudden I'm like oh well you know what maybe things are turning around and then I get really really sore and sharp and painful around my butt and so I got a bail and so I just like run back to my room and I'm like what's going on and I'm like it's sticking out and it hurts and I'm like what can I do and then I'm just like I dump up my shaving kit and uh And I'm like, what do I got? Like, they can fix this. And I'm like, the best thing I got here is after shave.

And that, believe it or not, is just the worst thing you could ever imagine. And so then, because I'm just, I'm so sunburned at that point. And then I've got this stuff that just the whole back ends on fire. I'm like, ah! And so I just slammed. I'm the shower on and jump in, and then it goes all the way hot. And I'm a freaking lobster at this point already. And it's just bad to worse.

And the whole thing was just this cascade of bullshit. But it was really funny to talk about later, I guess. I don't know. That's a pretty funny story. I could be wrong. I'm laughing. I'd love to have read the blog, but that's a pretty good reenactment of it. Oh, I'll send it to you.

It hits harder on paper, but yeah, I mean, that's it, right? So sometimes it's just like anything in comedy because I do really try and be funny with it. And so sometimes some stuff works in one medium and it doesn't work in others, right? And that's kind of just what I was talking about, I guess. Okay, well, I've kept you for an hour and change. Yeah, good. Well, let's do the crewmaster final five. Five quick questions.

We can go as long or as quick as you want. on these uh one of them will be pretty quick but regardless shout out to eth and tracy macdonald uh supporters of the podcast since the very beginning um first i always i'm always curious uh if you could sit and do what i'm doing pick somebody's brain right who would you who would you want to sit down with i would want to sit down hands down thomas soul but i'd need like a few months to prepare ahead of time because the guy just knows so much about everything that I kind of want to just spend a month reading just so that I could try and keep up with him when I was talking to him you know like I don't know I uh I got to look into him honestly I do I but I would I would say

I don't know it might be fascinating to just go in sit back and listen like honestly just soak it man well that's that's exactly it but i feel like i feel like his time would be better spent if i did more of the building blocks ahead of time so that he didn't have to break it down through it yeah exactly right i mean the guy literally wrote the book on basic economics like if you here's the thing about the nDP is if you take any n d p voter and you can convince him to read this book i promise you they will never vote nDP again and it's funny because it's called basic economics. But it just, it totally throws every far left ideology and everything about

trying to help things by just making more problems and thinking about the ripple effects and stuff. It throws it all on its head. And the guy's absolutely fascinating. So that's, that's who I do. But I would definitely want to make the most of it. And so I work ahead of time and get ready. what's one subject you haven't talked yet about on on the podcast that you'd like to you mentioned that you've got tons and tons and tons of ideas what's one of the ones that you're you want to get on there but you haven't yet uh i've got i've got a few that i think are going to piss a lot of people off uh one of them definitely is taking care of seniors

I'm going to have a very, very unpopular podcast that's going to make a lot of people very mad at me and probably never want to hear from me again. And because of that, I'm kind of looking forward to doing it. You enjoy the public outcry, don't you? Making people squirm a little bit. If some people aren't, if people aren't having any kind of a reaction to any of this, it means that it's not resonating and I'm not doing a good job because if there's going to be a lot of people who get really offended by the things I bring up and talk about and something like that it means that it's probably true look at how mad the left got last week with Justin Trudeau taping over that HP sticker with an Apple logo right the the right the right side of the country was just mocking him and then the left side was just over the top upset and I think it's because they realize that he's just a vapid shell. His head definitely is. And they're,

they're coming around to that idea and they don't want to admit it, but they still, they still realize it's there. And yeah, a really unpopular conversation about Canada pension plan. I think it's probably going to be that. I haven't even started writing it yet, but I've got it kind of fleshed out in my head and it's not going to be well received. But it's going to be very true. I look forward to hearing them. I look forward to hearing them. I had quite the day-to-day. I got to be honest, all the way back from North Battleford,

I listened to the one would have been the four that I'd missed in the middle. Yep. And a couple times you had me in tears just caught off guard a little bit. And that's awesome. I think that's a talent. That's a talent. Well, I really try and make it, there's a lot of podcasts where people are talking,

and it's them just kind of free-flowing ideas. I don't know if you've seen any clips from Sarah Silverman's thing, but she'll do like one idea a minute kind of thing. And it's just, you look at that, you think it could just be so easily condensed. Spoiler alert, it can't be easily condensed. It ends up taking way too much time and I pull my hair out. But it can definitely be condensed.

And so that was kind of my methodology was, I want to do something that's different than just sitting there with a mic on a boom arm and just kind of pondering the world. I just want to hit it fast. I know everybody's time's valuable. So talk fast. Get in, listen, get out, right? And then because of that, a lot of the jokes,

they're going to catch you off guard because there's no big lead up to it. And I've already moved on to the next thing by the time you're finished reacting to it. And some people like that a lot. I've got a few buddies to say that they've got to listen to them all twice. And I'm like, well, that works great because now my viewer counts up. I don't know about that. View account might not be up on Apple. If you listen to it from the same device,

it doesn't recognize it. Okay. But regardless. All this stuff out. Hey. We'll go to Twitter now. Twitter lit up with you, the announcement of you coming sitting here.

So I like the name the best. Disco Stud says, if you were a tree, what kind would you be? Alticane. If you know it, you know it. what you don't know what alticane no tell me what elta cane is oh the crooked trees of alta cane all right so a little bit northwest of saskatoon you've got this tiny little bluff on the edge of a field

and there's another bluff like 20 feet away where it's all just normal poplars but all the poplars in this one they all grow up at all these weird stunted angles and they're always going off in weird directions and I don't know what the heck it is but they just they're always going off in weird directions and so yeah if I was a tree you'd be out of the king I'd be one of the crooked trees of Alta Cain it's a great story yeah it's you just show up and they've got this kind of boardwalk sidewalk that goes through it so that you don't you know wreck everything when you're walking through you just kind of show up check it out and and leave I'm having I'm having deja vu not that I've been there

I've been to something very very similar in Wisconsin went to school in Wisconsin okay and they had a boardwalk through twisted trees well I mean there's there's another one in Poland that's like that too and I'm not sure I don't know about the biology behind it but there's like I said there's just perfectly normal trees 20 feet away from it and then just all the ones in this particular area are fucking weird

Perfectly describes, too. Quick Dick, McDick wants to know what your favorite color is. I know he's being a smart ass, but I thought, you know what, screw it. It's getting thrown in. Green. Green is the color, believe it or not. Green's a solid color. Law 5s.

What ministerial seat do you want in the new Buffalo Republic? deregulation imagine if we had a minister of deregulation that's what you want to do go around and deregulate why is what is the government i mean we're not that far past when the government when we decided that we didn't want the government telling us who we could and couldn't love right

why does the government what does the government need to tell you and i how much we're willing to pay each other to work for each other. Why does the government need to have this and that? How many redundancies exist? When Harper took all that hell for getting rid of the federal oversight of fresh water in Canada, that was actually something that started before he became prime minister. So when the liberals were still in charge, and it was a good thing because you had a provincial body that was already looking after the same thing.

So they said, well, we can save something. some money if we just stopped doing this. And so it's funny because Harper got a lot of hell for it, but it wasn't his thing and it wasn't a bad thing. Yeah, there's there's so much red tape that there's some of it that's necessary. I mean, I don't think you should just be able to just make your own pipeline wherever you want. And there definitely needs to be oversight in a lot of different areas. But look at how much, look at how much stifling red tape there is in something like starting a brewery or an oil refinery. I mean, do you think it's weird that we ship all our unprocessed oil at other places and then

bring back gasoline, right? I mean, there's, there's a little bit here and there. You guys have the upgrader and, you know, St. John has Irving Oil. And why is it so far fetched to think that we couldn't just build some more? Well, it's because there's so much red tape involved that the cost in front of it is so prohibitive that no company is going to try it. Let's fix that. Well, this has been a fantastic little sit down, good sir. I appreciate you hopping on. Thanks for having me. Is this the first one you've done?

This is the first guest podcast I've ever done. I've never done anything really like this. I got interviewed at a football game one time with my shirt off and that's about the closest thing. Was it at Mosaic? No, it was at McMahon. The riders were in town playing and there was a bunch of us tailgating and maybe kind of funny story. So yeah, I'm there with my shirt off and the cops come by.

They go by all this people with the Stampeders gear. Give them tickets. Give them tickets. Come to, or pardon me, they're like, go past them, go past them, go past them. And then, oh, there's riders fans. Tickets for everybody. Go past them. You know, and then, oh, the next riders fan.

tickets for everybody and so then somebody from the cbc radio of all places wanted to interview me and they were just like oh what do you think about this and and i said you know what it's a little bit messed up because i thought in canada you weren't able to dip the police weren't able to discriminate against people based on what color they are and then believe it or not the cbc cut that out when they aired it of course they did well twos it's been fantastic getting to sit with you especially on your first time i feel honored that you you uh you chose me to to be a guy who to sit around and have a bullshit with thanks man this was a lot of fun uh yeah i wasn't sure how it was going to go you know we were talking

about how i didn't know if i had all that much to say or what we could do with it and it just it flew by and it was pretty easy and yeah there was a few things that yeah i just i loved it yeah well thanks for hopping on thanks for having me man it's been great it's nice to finally it was it was funny when i talked to you on the phone and then you know it's it's weird to hear your voice talking to me not just talking in a podcast that was kind of funny and interesting and this whole thing's been great cool well we'll have in that case we'll have to do it again i would love to do that. Absolutely. Cool. All right.