Shawn Ryan Show - #116 Sarah Adams (AKA Superbad) - CIA Targeter Tracks Down #1 Enemy of Benghazi Attacks

Episode Date: June 10, 2024

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BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Sarah Adams, welcome back to the show. Thanks for having me. So you have to be, you are the number one requested return guest we've ever had. Crazy. Last episode, actually it was two episodes, right? We dove into Benghazi, some of the corruption behind it, and took off like a bat out of hell. It was insane to see that growth.

And then we got censored. Welcome to my life. Yeah, right? So I don't know why we got censored, but anyways, we can't rank for your name. It's really odd. For those of that are listening listening if you go to YouTube You can type in Sarah Adams Sean Ryan show and it's like I don't know 30 pages down the line

Can't even find it. You literally have to go to the channel to find it So we're gonna call you by your old call sign over at CIA, which is Super bad super bad. So if you're looking for this on YouTube it's under super bad now hopefully they don't censor this one I don't know I don't know why they would have censored the last one yeah well if they censored the last one they will censor this I know right yeah but we don't get censored on audio so that that's awesome. But yeah, so a couple of things since the last one, it's have developed, we're gonna talk all about,

we're gonna talk about a lot of things, but you are still tracking a lot of the terrorist organizations. We're gonna talk about who's coming up through the southern border, what you think they're doing inside the US, a lot of the ISIS stuff. And it's gonna be, I know you have some very pertinent

information that needs to be released and man, I just can't wait to dig into it. But I got a couple, I got a question for you. Sure. So did you read the comments on our last interview? So I know some of the comments because I have an all male team at work and they spit out random lines from the comments now to me and I realized, oh, that must be a comment under the Shandra on YouTube video.

So I've heard many of them. Lots of questions. I think the number one question from males is, are you single? Love it. I've never seen so many marriage proposals in a YouTube comments section. Yeah, I mean, I can't believe the age I am. I've yet to have a marriage proposal,

but they all came on YouTube apparently. So I'm single, but as you know, I'm married to my terrorists and I'm tracking my terrorists and that's a priority in my life. I don't have time for foolishness. You don't have time for dating, Penn. Got it. Got it. Well, sorry, fellas. That's a heartbreaker. Anyways, you don't really need an introduction because you've been on here before, but I'm going to give you one anyways. You are the co-author of Benghazi Know Thy Enemy, a Cold Case Investigation, former CIA officer

during the Libyan crisis, before, during, and after 9-11 attacks, counterterrorism analyst, and CIA targeter. Senior advisor on the select committee of Benghazi. So, am I missing anything? No, I mean, pretty much everyone knows what I do at this point. Yeah, yeah. The word is out. But yes. So last time you came on, I gave you a gift.

Yes. Was the Laird Superfoods Performance Mushrooms. Okay. Let's see what we got here. This time it's something a little different. Oh yes. Nice. Oh, of course a sticker. That's a lovely. There you go. Whenever you can get free promos.

But the good stuff. Thank you, thank you. There you go. And what people don't know is I went home with gummy bears last time. That's right. And they were also delicious. That's right.

But since everybody gets a gift on the show, this is from Boone and I. Oh man, no way. Yes. And we like that one because it's kind of like the targeting one. Oh dude, thank you. Yes. And we like that one because it's kind of like the targeting one. Oh dude, thank you. Yes, I hope you enjoy.

This is awesome. Yeah. I might frame this and put it in the museum here. Go for it, man. That's all, thank you so much. But- Just don't do it with a big picture of my face. That would be very weird.

I promise I won't. Thank you. But real quick, so you know this, we have a Patreon account. They're our top supporters. They're the reason I get to sit here and you get to sit here and they've been with us since the beginning. So one of the things I do is I offer them a question in the interview. And so we got a couple of good ones here. The first one is from Leo and his question is what type of attacks and locations do you foresee these terrorists choosing?

Sure. Well, hi Leo Thanks for reaching out now The interesting part is I don't think a lot has changed on what's Harris want to attack right? Like they want to hit soft targets. They want to embarrass governments or who whomever their enemy attack, right? They want to hit soft targets. They want to embarrass governments or whomever their enemy is, right? They want to make a lot of things seem it was inspired by them, right? Even just in the last couple of weeks, we've seen lone wolf videos come out from Al-Qaeda, then Al-Qaeda in the Arab Peninsula and ISIS, right? They're like, hey, go do things inspired by us.

So they still want to kind of get a lot of people involved to kind of like plus up their numbers, right? And make them seem bigger than they are, more powerful than they are. Another thing I think we really need to stay focused on too is attacks on embassies and consulates. The terrorists have seen, hey, that's a quick and easy way to push the US government out of a location. And so I think that's going to be go back to the old days, like we saw some big ones in the 90s.

And I think they're probably planning now the same type of thing. Do you think any other any specific embassies you think they're gonna target? Yes. Do you want to say? I think one is the US embassy in Bamako in Mali and then I think the other one is on the Saudi Peninsula. Why do you think that? Because they are working on it.

They are working. Roger that. So, you know, in what you'd mentioned the lone wolf videos, what came out recently? What specific lone wolf videos are you referring to? Yeah, it's just basically the different terrorist groups saying, hey, go do attacks are inspired by us. One of the more popular ones that's out right now is ISIS put one out to do with the Paris Olympics. So they said, hey, go to where crowds are in Paris.

We don't care if you use a knife. We don't care if you use a vehicle. Like cause havoc and attack these crowds surrounding the Olympic events. So they're asking people to just go do things. And then obviously they're probably planning things too. So they want to have a large number of attacks if they can bring in these inspired people. Where are they sending out this messaging? Most of it goes out in Telegram is the best place to get at least ISIS messaging.

Okay. Okay. Wow. The next question is from Brody. In your opinion, are we more likely to suffer an attack on infrastructure like power grid, water supply, etc. or an attack on human life or soft targets? Yeah. What group is most likely to and has the resources to pull off such an attack? Sure. Brody, you did us wrong in Homeland, but I'll answer your question anyway.

Have you seen Homeland? No. Oh, it's like the best show. Anyway, so yeah, Brody just becomes like a bad guy. That's all. And then the Iranians hang him. So sorry if you haven't seen the TV show. I just ruined Brody for you.

But anyway, so it's almost two different things, right? Like the terrorists focus on the soft targets. It's almost like the nation state in the near pier who focus on what we would call the infrastructure, the power grid, et cetera. So it's actually two very different threats, but they're both very active threats, right? Because let's say if we were going to go to war with China, well, if they have now taken control of large portions of our electric grid, large portions of our China, well, if they have now taken control of large portions of our electric grid, large portions of our ports, right, they can shut all that down and prevent us

from responding to situations. So it's like you almost have to look at terrorism in a different lens, right, when you kind of look at the nation state level. So I do think both are threat, but they're from different actors. Mm-hmm. Makes sense. Makes sense. All right. Let's get into the interview then. I know you have a lot to cover. I have personal questions from you and or for you. But actually, we did forget to talk about the newsletter.

So I just love the information. I don't, I guess that sounds, I don't love the information, but you're one of the only people that are out there reporting real info and on some of the threats that we face and about the terrorist organizations. So we had spoke last night at dinner and you're gonna be given a down and dirty intel brief on all things terrorists in the Sean Ryan Show newsletter. So if you guys are interested and you want to keep up to date on what Sarah's tracking

and some of the stuff going on within the terrorist world, sign up for the Sean Ryan Show newsletter. Yeah, I'm excited about it. I joke a lot about terrorism, but obviously it is a serious threat and we do have a major problem getting information out On what the terrorists are doing right now. Yeah. Yeah, so when we reconnected Well, we've always kind of stayed connected but you had brought up we were trying to we were kind of talking about all the terrorists that are coming up through the southern border and Maybe even the northern border.

But there was a, there was, I mean, you've been tracking these guys, you know they're coming across. We had spoken about how some of these organizations are becoming friendlies who, who, who in the past years have been kind of rivals or not friends with each other, grouping together to become a common enemy. You had brought up the fact that a lot of these organizations are now training in urban warfare overseas, which we had spoke offline about that you thought that was gonna become a threat

to the embassies, now here we are. And so let's just talk about, let's start with how are these organizations and which ones are becoming allies. Sure. Yeah. The really interesting thing is the terrorists have been coming together for a long time.

We just really hadn't been collecting it because how the US government works is all the terrorist groups are in a bucket, right? So this is ISIS. ISIS people work ISIS. This is Al-Q So this is ISIS, ISIS people work ISIS, this is Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda people work ISIS, this is Hamas, really no one worked Hamas. And nobody was working cross-functionally, like hey, how are these terrorists

sharing monetary resources? How are they doing joint training? A really good example is now these Hamas attacks just happened in October, right? Well, a large number of the terrorists at that attack trained in southern Afghanistan. They were in Aruzgan and Kandahar at al-Qaeda camps in the months prior to the Hamas attack. So if we had been collecting on what's al-Qaeda doing in southern Afghanistan, why are all these Palestinian terrorists in Afghanistan? This is very strange.

We might have been able to get ahead of an attack like that. But because we put them in buckets, nobody thinks Hamas would go to Afghanistan to train, right? Because they're like, well, they're not aligned with al-Qaeda. And oh, there's Shia and there are Iran. And people ignore the fact that al-Qaeda and Iran have been super close because it's Iran, in addition to Pakistan, where all the Al-Qaeda senior leaders stayed these last 20 years when we were hunting them or trying to hunt them unsuccessfully inside Afghanistan.

So the terrorists have been coming together. We've just failed to notice it. And then we talk a lot about in Libya, Al-Qaeda and ISIS came together because they had a mutual enemy, which was the Libyan National Army. And actually, just a couple months ago, one of our most senior terrorists from the Benghazi attacks, his name is Hashim Abu Sidra, was detained in Libya.

The interesting part is it hasn't made the US press, but you know what's really interesting about him? At the time he was detained, he was the head of ISIS in Libya, and he was the head of the operational side of Al-Qaeda in Libya. So see how this is now against narratives, right? He was basically the operational head of two groups

that you're told don't work together. Whoa. How are you getting this information, if you don't mind me asking? I mean, you know, we've been working in Libya for nine years. We have obviously a lot of relationships. We are kind of the only ones who work Benghazi. So we actually have a lot of people even just proactively reach out to us now too and say, hey, you know, here's what's happening. So he's detained. He's actually a forthcoming detainee. He's providing a lot of

info. The really interesting part is, from what I'm hearing, is they're only focusing his detainee briefings on ISIS. They're not at all discussing the al-Qaeda side, which is fascinating, because when he did our Benghazi attacks, he was, of course, al-Qaeda. And he was leading actually one of the big battalions of AQIM at our attacks. So it's kind of interesting to even see in a foreign country Al Qaeda's being downplayed and how they're collecting and how they're talking about a terrorist. Wow, is the, do you think the government has rectified

that, that segmenting people into this is ISIS, this is Al Qaeda, this is Taliban? Of course not. This is Shemaz, It's still compartmentalized. 100%. Man, that's a real shame. Wow. Well, how are you tracking these guys

coming up to the southern border? Sure. So I think we should take a step back from the southern border, right? Because almost when they get to the border, it's too late. Okay. Because the border is wide open. So I think we should start where they're coming from or who's enabling them along the way. Right? So like the three key,

I call exit points are like India, Turkey, and Iran. Right? So basically all these people are going to those locations. So like the Africans, they're coming up through Africa using TikTok, which is crazy. So the Chinese and the Africans are actually using TikTok and it's routing them to the southern border. So TikTok is like this human trafficking smuggling application right now that people don't actually understand, but that's how they're making their movements using TikTok. So anyway, they're going to-

Can you elaborate on that a little bit? What do you mean they're making their movements through TikTok? Yeah. So TikTok is telling them how to do the routing. So it's like, how do you get through this city? How do you get to this country? How do you cross this border? How do you get a visa to this country?

Where do you catch a flight to get to South America? When you get to South America, what routes do you take? Where do you go to get aid or medical? Where like the friendly NGOs that'll assist you, like all that type of stuff is inside and being used in TikTok. And they're using this as a routing feature. Wow.

I was like, we would use like ATAC. Yeah, wow. Do you think we should, I mean, this has been recently in the news. Do you think we should ban TikTok? I think we should, I mean, this has been recently in the news, do you think we should ban TikTok? I think we should ban TikTok because it's a spy collection platform. So I would never put TikTok on my phone.

But I think focusing on TikTok when we have way bigger issues, I have a problem with, right? Because honestly, that's not our biggest issue right now. Our biggest issue is like close the damn border, right? It's not that TikTok's bringing them through the border, it's you're letting them through the border. Yeah, that's not our biggest issue right now, right? Our biggest issue is like close the damn border, right? It's not that tick tock bringing them through the borders. You're letting them through the border. Yeah, that's a good point so yeah, so so most terrorists are leaving from Turkey India and

Iran and the really interesting part is even in India one of the planes basically through through through France, I don't know if you saw us in Paris. And Paris is like, who all these random people on this plane? Why are they in our country? And the plane got held on the tarmac and everything, because it was just a plane of illegals going to South America. So that's the one side of the problem.

The other side of the problem is the countries in South America giving visas or just allowing these people in, right? So it's Brazil, Colombia, Ecuador, Panama, they're giving visas to all these people traveling in. And what a lot of people don't know is Ecuador allows Chinese citizens to come in without a visa. So all the Chinese, like the 6,000 increase percent

at the border, they came in to Ecuador and then came up because they don't even need to get a visa. Any Chinese person can go to Ecuador right now. So we need to stop these countries in Latin America from, first we got to stop that policy, right? Like they need a visa from China. And second, we got to tell these countries, hey, you're getting aid from the US,

you know, you're our Southern neighbors. Like, why are you enabling this to tell these countries, hey, you're getting aid from the US, you know, you're our southern neighbors, like why are you enabling this and allowing these people, which you know are coming to our border? So that's what we have to do while we're waiting for our own morons and our own government to like close a border in somewhere, at least if we could stop the pipeline farther down, it would help in some way.

Yeah. Are you familiar with the Darien Gap at all? Yeah, I remember we chatted about it last time. Yeah. And I saw that you had, yeah, my friend Rick, that's a good friend of his that came on your show. Really? Yeah.

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Well, I mean, it's kind of like what I said, like even when I said like the tic tac routing, so there's a lot of NGOs in place along these routes, right, to assist the migrants. But as you can imagine, their humanitarian assistance is also then giving these, like the illegals and even some of the bad guys going through, it's benefiting them, right? Because now they're safe routing. Now they can do it quicker, right? It's almost like they have a cover, right? Because they almost are associated now with an NGO, which changes the situation.

So the NGOs inherently then are helping to increase or helping to improve this rat line into United States. So they're actually almost like working against us even though they're trying to do the right thing and just help people on the way but it's becoming as you can imagine. It makes it easier and it makes more people want to go through because they know there's these security blankets along the way. Do you think they're doing, do you think these NGOs are doing this on purpose or do you think this is incompetence? I think it's a mix of things. I think a lot's incompetence. So even if you just look at the evacuation from Kabul, they say, oh, it's the most successful. We took out 120,000

people. We took out 120,000 of the wrong people, right? There's like 70,000 people, we don't know who they are. And they're there because there's these NGOs affiliated with State Department, right? And they wanted to save a bunch of humans. And they're like, come to the airport, you don't even need ID, bring like an electricity bell. So it's almost like this white savior complex, I know that sounds really bad. And they just almost care about numbers, right?

Then, hey, are we bringing in the right people? Are we taking care of the right people like? You know, are these people dangerous to bring in our community? Like they're not thinking through that, right? They just want to say oh, yeah We help 500 people donors give us more money and it's almost like this broken system. Yeah Wow When it comes to you know, we're talking about Chinese, you know, flying into Ecuador coming up. Are you more concerned about the Chinese than you are the terrorist organizations

coming into this country? I'm concerned about them in separate ways. Like they're equal threats, right? Because the problem with China is, these people are loyal to China. It's a different society than we live in. You and I can sit here and bash our government all day long, and we mean it. Chinese don't really do that, and they don't all feel that way.

So now there's all these people loyal to them in our country, so if something happens, they're at the ready and they will choose their government over our government. People need to actually understand that. The terrorists are their own thing and the terrorists are their own threat. It's just a different way. They'll probably more take direction from the terrorist group to do X, Y, and Z, to do something. But a lot of people don't realize if someone is willing to commit a crime to come into

the country, they're involved in other crimes. And we always try to say this about our terrorists. They're involved in things like money laundering, obviously we know in drugs, a lot of child exploitation. We had another Benghazi attacker detained in October who actually we thought was dead because he was reportedly killing a US drone strike. He wasn't. The battle damage assessment by the US military is horrible in Libya.

Anyway, he was captured for basically raping a child. So a lot of people don't need to understand that terrorists are criminals and they are involved in a bunch of other crimes. And so, like I said, we need to view all this as criminal activity. How are you getting the information of them coming up through the southern border? Well, one thing is a lot of them just show up in the borders, you can imagine. So we luckily have the counters. The problem is the US government skewing those numbers, right?

So when there's a counters at the border, they do kind of like Latin American other, like they don't have it listed by country. So you can't go and look and be like, oh, a thousand Egyptians came, two thousand Syrians came, et cetera. So we're obviously concerned with the terrorists leaving Afghanistan because what has happened is, as we talked about last time, is the Taliban is issuing these passports to terrorists, and they're doing

two different things. So one is they're just sending fighters. Trained fighters, they actually don't have, it's not like the old days, you trained in your little cell and your cell's going to be deployed and you're going to do attack. Al-Qaeda now is just training them and then forward deploying them. And then the interesting part is they are forward deploying senior Al-Qaeda members who will then guide them when they're ready.

So Al-Qaeda has taken guys that have been in Al-Qaeda for 20 years, given them Afghan passports. So, let's say they took an Egyptian as a good example. He has now an Afghan passport and they're deploying them to the US, the Middle East, and Europe. And then now they're going to be kind of like the command central for then the terrorists who've all been trained and then they'll tell them what to do. So I think that's like a really interesting thing.

Like we have a change in the terrorist tactics. You're not gonna see the cell doing things as you always saw in the past. So I think people need to understand that. And then the other thing is- Of course. What are they training on? Is this, I mean, when we would see their training camps before when the you know when the wars were both kicking it was

It was physical endurance. It was urban kind of warfare. It was You know shooting what what kind of stuff are they training on now? Do you have any insight into that? Sure if we just Focus on the al-qaeda camps. So in Afghanistan right now, there's 30 al-Qaeda training camps. Seven of them are suicide bomber only. So seven of them, you're only in it to be a suicide bomber. The rest of them, it's just your standard. Like I said, there is an urban warfare camp, which I think

is for a specific threat. But there is just your usual weapons. There's actually driving training. It's what you would expect. There is not the IED making and that type of stuff. There's not like a new training piece, if that makes sense. Same old tactics that we've seen in the war that are coming. But now everybody in America is gonna see these tactics carried out at some point.

Yeah, correct. Because remember back when we had a war with Afghanistan, it was like that country had the weakest passport in the world, right? Now everyone's trying to save Afghans. So all these foreigners now have Afghan passports and nobody knows they're Afghan. And as we've learned,

everyone drops their IDs at the border anyway. You don't know if someone's Iraqi, Syrian, Afghan. I mean, there is like no vetting of these people, right? We don't even know who these people are. And we're not gonna be able to vet them anyway, as you can imagine. So if you have 30 new Al-Qaeda training camps, these are all new recruits.

Like people don't understand this, right? This is Mohammed, never been a terrorist in his whole life. His fingerprints aren't in any system. His photo's not in his system. He's not on a US watch list. He's not marked as a terrorist. Even when we have terrorists on a watch list, I think a lot of people don't understand, a terrorist on a watch list does not mean we can get them out of border.

A really good example is we talked about Mullah Baraiter in the past who I caught. So he spent many years in Pakistan. So in Pakistan, he lived there with a Pakistani passport under a Pakistani identity. So his name was Mohammed Arif. Okay. Now, if you look at his Pakistani passport, and he would take that to the southern border, no one would ever know he's a deliberator, right?

Because the US government had an estimated date for him, so you don't have a date of birth. And then his passport in Pakistan only has a year of birth. I think it was like 1963. That's not useful. The name on the passport is different, so the name you have on watch listed isn't going to matter. The father's name on the passport is different.

The nationality on the passport is different, right? So there is no way if he came to the border as one of the most top 21 terrorists in the world at the time, he would have come in right just fine and no one would have known they left Harris then. Wow, wow. Man, are you aware of any camps within the US, any of these sleeper cells? I'm not aware of any camps within the US, any of these sleeper cells?

I'm not aware of any camps. At least what I know is they're pre-training. At least Al-Qaeda is pre-training. One of the guys we're following is actually doing the passports. Do you want me to get into that right now? Let's do it. Okay. Let's do it.

So obviously, last time I was on the show, I told you we just found out one of our top 10 attackers at the Benghazi attacks was in Afghanistan. His name is Hamzal Darnawi. So we started following him in September. And while following him, we found actually the number one target of our investigation. So we've never made the number one target of our investigation public. So this will be the first time anyone actually hears about him.

So when we went to investigate the Benghazi attacks, we had two goals, right? Bring the attackers to justice and stop them from killing anyone else. So he's the number one target for stopping them from killing anyone else. So this individual, his name is Abdul Azim Ali Musa, Ben Ali, long name. And then if you're Libyan, he's from the Al-Darcy family.

He doesn't use the Al-Darcy as part of his name, but legally it could be. So we just call him Musa for short, Mian Boon. So back in the day, he fought like everyone with Al-Qaeda in the Mujahideen era. And then he became a clandestine officer in Al-Qaeda. So what we did in our investigation, we're like, hey, he thinks he's kind of like this undercover CIA guy in Al-Qaeda, let's follow him that way.

So we've never shared publicly that we're following him. The really interesting part is he's had one job forever in Al-Qaeda, and it is to make the fake travel documents for Al-Qaeda's external operatives. So he started all the way back in Afghanistan back in the day. He made the documents for our Benghazi attackers. So we've talked. So what a lot of people don't get is when our Benghazi attacks happen, then a huge chunk of the terrorists went to the airport and got on airplanes. They thought the US military was going to come in and rain hell on Benghazi. They left.

So all their passports were made in advance. A lot of people don't understand this. And actually, one of the people with the fake passports, he was an Al Qaeda and Iraq guy, got captured in Turkey. And the crazy part is the US didn't ask to extradite him. He got sent to Tunisia, and then he got released. And then our government said, oh, we're following him. They didn't.

He killed a couple political leaders in Tunisia. And then he went to Syria. And luckily, we ended up getting both him and his brother in strikes in Syria later on. But they were terrorists for many years after Benghazi. Then the crazy part is Moussa then went on. And I don't know if you ever remember the name, the Khorasan group.

So basically, around the time of the Benghazi attacks, Al-Qaeda was like, hey, we need to focus all of our external operations into one place. We need basically a group in Al-Qaeda that only does external operations, so focused on Europe and the US mostly. So it became this Khorasan group. And it was led by a guy named Musa El Fadl. And it became the US's top priority, as you can imagine. It's like, hey, they're going to be the ones doing the attacks.

Let's start striking them. And so the US started striking them and basically wiped out the Khorasan groups. Musa was the Khorasan group's sole travel facilitator for Turkey, and most of their travel documents were Turkish, because as you can imagine, Turkey's a really easy travel document to get because of fraud and everything, and it gets you into Europe. So he was that group's only trusted facilitator. That's how important he is. Then during this whole time, he's doing AQIM, so Al-Qaeda's North Africa branch, obviously.

That's who did our attacks. Then he goes on and starts doing the travel documents for the Al-Badr Brigade. A lot of people don't know what the Al-Badr Brigade is, but if I tell you what they did, you'll know. Do you remember the Ariana Grande concert? They did that. Remember the multiple attacks in France when they hit the Bataklan? That was also al-Bada Mujahideen guys. So they're basically, they were basically the Libyan

terrorists and a lot of them came from our attacks that went to Syria. And at the time in Syria, you could join two terrorist groups. You could join the Al-Nusra Front and their leader was just killed yesterday, the original leader actually, or you can join ISIS, right? So a lot of the ones from Libya steal toward ISIS, but Libyans have this weird thing where they make their own groups. And so the ones who steer toward ISIS and said Al Nusra started calling themselves

the Al Badr Brigade. So that's where they came from. So anyway, so we have Musa till that point, okay? And then we lose him in our investigation. So we have him basically, he's in Libya, he's in Syria, he's in Turkey, and he spent some time in France during this, as you can imagine, because there was French attacks.

He spent time in Nice. So we lose him completely, so we're thinking he's living just under an assumed identity since he can make any of them in Turkey or Syria. So lo and behold, we're following Hamzah al-Darnawi and he goes and sees Musa in Afghanistan. So we find out Musa's been hiding all these years and been protected by the Iranian government in Iran.

So he's been in Iran. So of course then we're like, well what's Musa doing in Afghanistan? He has to be doing travel documents. So lo and behold, Musa works for Siraj-ud-Din Haqqani in the Taliban's Ministry of Interior, and his sole job is he makes all the fake travel documents for al-Qaeda's external operatives who are leaving from Afghanistan.

So he was involved in Benghazi, he's been ignored since Benghazi, and now he is the one man that knows every terrorist al-Qaeda is deploying from Afghanistan. Whoa, and we have no interest in him. None. And did I not say Siraj-e-Din Haqqani is his boss and we're giving Siraj-e-Din Haqqani money weekly. Yeah, we're gonna get into that shortly. But I can't, how is this guy not on anybody's radar? I don't know.

Well let's get back to, so let's get back to the sleeper cells real quick within the US. How, I mean, why do you think we haven't seen anything happen yet? This has been open for years and years. Even before this administration, the border was pretty wide open. The border was open, but not at the point where 7 million were coming in. And also remember, it wasn't easy for these people to travel from the Pakistan-Afghanistan border region to here.

Now these pipelines are open. Like I told you, there's these illegal flights from India. Those weren't flying, right? There's these routes from Iran and Turkey and Brazil. Those didn't really exist. This is all kind of like a new phenomenon. And so a lot of people don't realize, it's changed, the situation's changed, right?

And I don't even think the terrorists put a huge focus on targeting the southern border. You got to remember a lot of terrorists get in here legally, right? The 9-11 attackers got in here legally. We brought in a lot of terrorists during the Kabul evac legally. Even you know, I talk about Mullah Ibrahim, who I captured. So his wife's sister lives in Virginia. And in the last couple of years, the US has let Mullah Ibrahim's wife come to Virginia and see her sister.

So the US government has no problem issuing real visas to terrorists. And terrorists know this, right? Especially, you know, Muslim Brotherhood's very involved in this type of stuff. So the southern border wasn't always the biggest focus because we have huge loopholes. I mean, the biggest loophole was obviously student visas. That's what the 9-11 attackers did. We obviously now have a humanitarian loophole, right? We have all these people we're trying to save that may have been our allies in Afghanistan.

So you just have to remember, terrorists take advantage of what is available at the time. Right now, the southern border is the easiest to take advantage of. Is there any estimation on how many are in the US right now? No, but it's gotta be thousands. Yeah, yeah, it's gotta be. I don't even know how you would estimate, but why do you think they haven't hit?

Well, you have to remember, unless you're like a lone wolf and just doing an attack on your own, like you have to wait till you have like the guidance or you're told what to do. You know, part of it is Al-Qaeda has a new structure, at least Al-Qaeda we're talking about, you know? So they have to wait till these new commanders are in place in these locations. And then, I can get into this now, but Al-Qaeda has a whole plan in place.

And while like getting revenge for bin Laden's on that plan, it's not the number one on the plan. So the two number one pieces on the Al-Qaeda plan right now, that takes up almost all their bandwidth, is number one is deploying the new trainees to Iraq and Syria to attack US and Israeli forces. So people keep thinking ISIS is like getting jumping up again in Syria. That's like Al-Qaeda.

So just to let people know how this happened, I told you how Hamas trained in Afghanistan, right? So then after the Hamas attacks, of all people, Mullah Baraiter, this is why you don't negotiate with the guy who operationally runs all the terrorist attacks of a terrorist group, which was his job in Taliban. So Mullah Baradar, and then he took an al-Qaeda delegation with him, which had the head of al-Qaeda external operations. Al-Qaeda has not named that person yet.

So right now, the de facto head of it is Saif al-Altal. So the two of them go to Iran, and they meet with the Iranians, and they say, hey, al-Qaeda and the Taliban want to support the Hamas effort against the US and Israel. What do you need from us? And Iran said, we just need you to send fighters to Syria and Iraq. So the interesting part is a lot of people

need to understand this nuance. So the main operational head of al-Qaeda and the main operational head of Taliban wanted to help Hamas. And where did they go to get the permission to help Hamas? Iran. So anyone saying Iran didn't know about the Hamas attacks and they're not involved, it's BS. Why would the two operational heads of both these groups go get the permission of Iran?

So anyway, so a lot of the people they're training in these 30 camps in Afghanistan are going there. So they've already deployed 10,000 to meet this request from Iran. Okay? So that's a huge chunk. Wow. The other biggest thing they're working on is the Fatah war plan. I don't know if you've heard about this.

I haven't. Okay. So this is Al-Qaeda Taliban, Al-Qaeda Indo-subcontinent, the India Al-Qaeda, and then basically a political group in Pakistan called JUIF. It's run by a guy named Fahzul Arakhman, okay? So all these entities have come together and they made a war plan and the war plan basically is to take over what's kind of called Pashtunistan. So you're gonna take over the federally-administrated tribal areas of Pakistan, you're gonna take over Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, so the old Khyber province, and then they want to take over Baluchistan province.

So this is al-Qaeda's biggest personal plan. And so their war plan and their FATTA war planning is, like I said, number two after the Syria-Iraq deployments. So they have, like I said, other ambitions, right? The bin Laden thing, even the Africa stuff, they've basically been like, they made a plan for it, and we can discuss it later, but they're like, here's your plan, Africa, you run with it and do it,

because we are laser focused on this war plan, and that's what they're gonna do in the meantime. And the thing is, they have to do it now. So the way like Haibatou Al-Akanzada, who runs the Taliban, looks at it is, hey, we have all these terrorists here. Something's going to happen. Our terrorists are going to do stuff other places. And they have been, right?

And people are going to start coming here. The only people we don't want coming here or being involved again is the Americans. The only way to stop the Americans is to affect Pakistan, because Pakistan is the only regional government who's going to bring Americans back into the fold. So Haibatullah is basically, it's us or them. So what he first wants to do is create a buffer. They all do, everyone in the plan. They want to create a buffer between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

But then they want to make Pakistan in another phase, they're not at that phase yet, like a part of the Islamic Emirate, right? And then in a much later phase, you get the Kashmir peace. So yeah, so right now it's just, let's take this territory and then we replan and do a different war plan. Oh man, man. Man. What do you think it'll look like when they start attacking within the US and Europe?

Is it going to look like what we just saw happen in Russia? Would they kill like a hundred and, was it a hundred and forty something? Yeah, a hundred and forty almost. So yeah, they're always going to do that type, right? Because that's the soft target, that's where terrorism comes from, right? You're like terrorizing the people, you're making the government look bad. I don't think that's going to stop. little more about establishing, spreading Sharia in Islamic State. And you don't get a lot of benefit if you carry out like 10 attacks in America, because

then America's like, okay, we're going to get back involved in Afghanistan, right? They want to build a safe haven. They want to grow this safe haven. They want to train their new fighters. They want to expand, hopefully, into Pakistan, and people let them. So we have to look at it in the way al-Qaeda looks at it. They're very patient. They have a long plan.

Right? We're a piece of the long plan, but they don't get a lot of benefit from doing X, Y, and Z. It's not saying they won't do an attack. It's just they have things that are so much more important to them, and remember, they're still getting a win. They're attacking Americans in Iraq, and their goal for the Iraq piece is they want to, even though the US is saying it anyway,

they want to push Americans out of Iraq. So when Al-Qaeda, which they'll say they did it, pushes Americans out of Iraq, that's another huge win, and that's the same thing that happened in Afghanistan. So one big piece of their global strategy is push Americans out. Like I told you, one is just attack the embassies. But it's like, we want you to replicate all of Al-Qaeda allies or whomever, replicate the success we had in Afghanistan elsewhere, right?

So like in Libya, in Eastern Libya, there's a head of Al-Qaeda, his name is Ashraf Sultan. He was one of our Gitmo detainees and he was of course a 2012 Benghazi attacker. That's why I know this. So the Haqqanis reached out to him and had a whole discussion and it basically was the Haqqanis saying, hey, we want to repeat the success of Afghanistan in Tripoli. And so that's like another piece of their plan, right? They want everywhere else to kind of come, become a little Talibanistans, as I call it, right?

And then basically have this huge Islamic emirate. It's a really, really big goal. And it kind of is Osama bin Laden's old goals, right? And now just the next generation is trying to do them. So you have to view it that way. It's not all this short satisfaction thing for them. Okay. How do you think they're gonna spread Sharia law

in their agenda? Are they gonna, are they going to embed in our government? I mean, it sounds like, I mean, we're funding them, so they gotta be in there somewhere already. Yeah, they've been embedding in our government, especially Taliban sympathizers. I mean, gosh, like we need to fire a lot of people in the State Department.

Yeah, unfortunately, Al-Qaeda has been very, very patient. They haven't just embedded in our government. There are Taliban, I mean, sorry, Al-Qaeda representatives in a lot of embassies around the world, in a lot of like Ministry of Foreign Affairs around the world. They have slowly seeped in as we focus on, hey, I want to see the Al-Qaeda guy with a gun. I don't care about the Al-Qaeda guy working the consular section of the Paris embassy, right?

You don't focus on that because it's not the shiny object. Well, that guy now is an ambassador. And so Al-Qaeda has been so smart about that. Man, what do you think Americans need to watch out for? Themselves. I mean, we're causing this own failure ourselves, right? We could have beat the Taliban in Afghanistan, but our government refused to designate them a terrorist group, right?

They tied the hands of the war fighters. And what a lot of people don't understand is they blame everything on Pakistan when a lot of it's us and Pakistan, right? We did the whole Mujahideen together. But when I was in Pakistan, we captured so many senior Taliban members. Most of them are never going to be made public, right? So the US government says, hey, capture this bad guy. We capture the guy, we ask him some questions, we write some pretty reports, but then the

US has no follow on. The US doesn't say, let's move him to Bagram. We're going to do criminal charges against him. Let's put him through a court of law. So they end up in basically a prison in Pakistan. And then after like five years, I mean, the prison's overpopulated because there's so many of these Taliban guys in it. And there's diseases going through.

And the Taliban like, hey, are you ever going to charge us? I mean, the Pakistanis like, you going to charge this guy? I mean, the Pakistanis are like, you're going to charge this guy? We don't have charges against him in our country. US does nothing. So you have to remember, the US is the reason, like, they don't have end games for any of these people. I mean, Guantanamo Bay showed that, right? They picked a bunch of guys, and then there's no plan on what to do with them.

But the same thing's happening when we arrest terrorists in these countries. So they're being detained like five years maybe, and then they're back out. And then you're just chasing them again. And also in prison, they're in prison with all the terrorists and they made better networks. So we are causing all of our own problems besides obviously funding them and everything,

but we're really not bringing terrorists to justice. Yeah, that's painfully obvious. Well, let's move into I mean, we're going to talk about Libya. Sure. In the mortar team. My favorite subject. Let's do it. Yep. Took us 4000 days, but we found the mortar team. So, I mean, as you know. So the really interesting part is,

you know how you make assumptions and then you go down rabbit holes and you spend a lot of time, right? So we knew who planned the mortar attack, right? His name was Wissam bin Hamad. He's deceased now, and we talked about him last time. This is the mortar attack in Benghazi. Yeah, so this was the one on CIA annex on September 12th.

So that night there were six terrorist attacks. So this is the last one that killed Ronan Bubb, or as the CLT calls him, Ty. So this is the team then who shot the mortars. So they were obviously, as you can imagine, we were CIA. So the mortar team has always been like the holy grail of our investigation, right? Like we have to get the mortar team. So the interesting part is we spent all this time thinking they were under this Wasanbin Hamad

and he ran a group called Libya Shield. So we spent tons of time looking for the mortar team inside Libya Shield, right? Because we're like, you know, he had to have used his own group members, of course not. He called the best mortar team in town that night and said, hey, I need you to do a mortar strike in the CIA. And they said, sure.

So that's why it took us so long to identify the mortar team because we were looking in the completely wrong group. So the mortar team ended up being, it was called the Hassan Al-Jabr cell. And really that name is, it was actually, the crazy part is everything always ties together. There was an Al Jazeera journalist and he basically got ambushed and killed and so the cell named themselves after it.

But the interesting part is the ambush and kill was to kill this basically senior commander, Abdel Fattah Yunus, and he was kind of the other General Haftar. There was like two General Haftars. So they, this journalist was going to interview him, so the terrorists were like, good, we'll kill him with the journalist. Well, the journalist hadn't got to him yet,

and so they ambushed a journalist, and unfortunately killed a journalist on some of his team. I'm friends with one of the security detail on the team. There's a video of this, it's on like YouTube, the ambush and everything. Cause they're filming, cause they're going to go do an interview. So anyway, they kill him.

So it's just really interesting because when this general ends up dying, the people involved are Ahmed Abu Qatala, who the US framed as a mastermind, the brother of Wasam bin Hamad, Mohammed bin Hamad, right? So it was our terrorists who then ended up going and killing this general, so it likely was our terrorists

in some fashion who unfortunately also killed this Al Jazeera reporter. So anyway, the cells named after them, and they're inside of another group called the Rafala al-Sahati Brigades. And then the Rafala al-Sahati Brigades. And then the Rafala al-Sahati Brigades was a cell within 17 February Martyrs' Brigade. So for the people who know the Benghazi story, most people understand the 17 February Martyrs' Brigade was like the security outside given by the government of Libya to protect the consulate.

And then there was a private company called the Blue Mountain Group who were the next step in and they were like the local guards on the compound. And remember when I talked about the terrorist that was detained for like the child rape a few months ago? He was Blue Mountain Group. And I think that's one of the reasons why we can't get it in the US press. Because the US government has always said,

Blue Mountain Group didn't have any terrorists, no Blue Mountain Group members attacked us, and he was a member of Blue Mountain Group. Remember, that was a State Department paid contract to Blue Mountain. So basically, State Department paid for that attacker. And they don't want to be honest about it So anyway, so yeah, so this is how incest you it is. So yeah, so this Rafa'l al-Sahati

They were the mortar team and then they also had attackers at the consulate So this group was involved in both but it makes perfect sense So the US had really bad collection of terrorism at the time, but it makes sense because the person who ran the group, his name is Mohammed al-Gharabi, he goes back and forth between Libya and Turkey a lot, he's top 10 of our investigation. He was the al-Qaeda commander for Benghazi at the time. He had fought with al-Qaeda in the Mujahid Afghanistan. The US did not know that was his job. They only knew him as the commander of Rafala al-Sahati,

if that makes sense, which they thought, oh, it's like an Islamist militia. So if you actually learn who these people are and what their roles are, it's just all Al-Qaeda, right? And Al-Qaeda asked Al-Qaeda guys to do everything, but because the U.S. didn't do any investigation, right? Like a lot of people still don't understand all these inner workings.

Did you share the mortar team with the FBI? Yes. How did that go? So it didn't go anywhere. So obviously I'm a targeter, right? So we didn't just find the mortar team. We found the information you would need to target the mortar team.

Obviously, I won't say the pieces of that information, so the mortar team doesn't do something about it. So we shared that information the first week of November with the FBI and the State Department's Rewards for Justice program. We still have not had a response from the FBI. But the interesting part is the State Department's Rewards for Justice program. We still have not had a response from the FBI. But the interesting part is, the Justice Department of the United States

is gonna retry their fake mastermind, Ahmed Abu Qatala this summer, which is insane. So the first time he went through the trial, he got like 22 years, which is amazing for a guy who wasn't the mastermind, showed up late, hung out outside until Al-Qaeda left, and then went in and grabbed some useless items. Because remember, there's nothing classified in the consulate.

He got 22 years. They're going to retry him for more time this summer. So anyway, they have contacted people from the CIA annex to testify against him this summer. So they have not responded to us on actually trying to go after the mortar team, but they want to have another dog and pony show with their fake mastermind and get the CIA annex people to come in and play this little game, which we're all pretty frankly pissed off about.

The other thing is, is just to kind of like jump ahead, you actually saw the letter we wrote as a team. I did. So it was me, a case officer, our commo officer, and then the entire GRS team put out a group letter because when we identified the mortar team, five members of the mortar team, so the mortar team is only 10 people, so half of the mortar team were family members of FBI's key witness in their first fake mastermind trial against Ahmed Abu Qatala. So they took this Libya and they paid him millions of dollars.

They moved him here. He testified that Abu Qatala was the mastermind of this attack, which we've proven he's not. It's Mukhtar al-Mukhtar, a famous AQIM commander. And basically, during this whole process, he has other family members at the consulate attacks which we knew but he basically covered up that five members of the mortar team were his family and this is FBI's witness

against Katala. How was this how does this how is this happening? I don't know so maybe that's why they haven't responded to us but yeah he lives in America he lives in Virginia people He lives in Virginia, people. And the worst part is, it's not even the worst part, that is the worst part. But, so I'm an intelligence officer. We all were in Benghazi. So this witness in 2011 kidnapped a Libyan intelligence officer, tortured and killed him. And he's actually wanted for that crime in Benghazi. It's a war crime, obviously.

And the U.S. basically bringing him here to be involved in Katala's fake trial is stopping justice from that family. The intelligence officer's name was Nasir al-Sarmani. And there's actually trials going on right now for his situation. So us having this witness here is stopping that family from getting justice for that murder.

And Ahmed Abou-Kattala, the fake mastermind, as I told you, killed the general. He actually has a potential of the death penalty in Benghazi. So actually the FBI setting him up as a fake mastermind also kept him alive when he should be in death row, already have been given the death sentence in Libya for that crime.

So we're actually also protecting terrorists as part of this Benghazi cutout. We're harboring them. Yeah, so we don't have to be honest and say it was Al Qaeda. So good luck with that trial this summer, guys. Oh my gosh, this is... It's gonna be a shit show. This is...

This is so disturbing that we just continue to do this. I mean, where do you... I just, I don't even know what to say. I know. I do hope this man in Virginia knows though, the entire CIA annex team knows where you live. We know what you drive and stay the hell away from us. Are you worried at all bringing this information out?

I mean, that doesn't fall on me, right? FBI did a failed investigation. They brought a terrorist on me, right? FBI did a failed investigation. They brought a terrorist to America, right? Someone has to say what they did wrong because he's a threat, right? He doesn't even live that far from the CIA. He is a threat to Americans. And so someone actually has to do the right thing

and say it, right? Like he needs to be deported, like immediately. And he needs to face trial anyway for a murder in Libya. Like, it's just what they have done with just the Benghazi investigation in general, as you can imagine, it's just so criminal, it's so incompetent, it's so frustrating for us to have been there, and now we're watching

our terrorists go on and do other things, right? Like I told you, making these passports for this next generation of Al-Qaeda guys. Like that guy should not even be free to do it. The best Al-Qaeda passport guy in the world should have been detained after Benghazi. Yeah. Yeah, it almost just doesn't even seem real. I know.

You know, it's... And people need to be know we've been this bad for this long, right? It almost just doesn't even seem real. I know. You know, it's, it's, it's that bad. And people need to be, no, we've been this bad for this long, right? Because it was 2012. Man. Well, let's, Sarah, let's take a quick break and then we'll pick up right where we left off.

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So everything through that whole portion of Africa, he was in charge of it. So if it was weapons, drugs, moving humans, he ran all that. So a lot of people don't really realize like Al Qaeda and ISIS are kind of like billion dollar organizations in Libya. They run more as businesses instead of terrorist groups. This matters because just a couple of months ago, the Haqqani Network sent a delegation from Afghanistan to Libya to get weapons. The interesting part is you ask a lot of questions. Like, are they just going

there to get weapons because Al-Qaeda in Libya is rich and they'll just give them for free? Because Al-Qaeda doesn't charge them, right? They put the weapons order together and gave it to them. Or are they going to Libya because the weapons are not U.S. origin, right? So a big problem right now that's happening in Pakistan is all these suicide attacks are happening and the Pakistanis are being very forward leaning and putting all the pictures out and they're saying, hey, these terrorists have M4s, they have M16s, they have US gear. Some of the guns actually say property of the US government, right? And there's a lot of flak then going, as you can imagine, on the Taliban. It's like, hey, we know these weapons came from you because of the type of weapons

they are. So I think it's really interesting to see the Haqqanis going to Libya to get weapons. Now, are they getting those weapons to actually go back to Pakistan and Afghanistan? It's not entirely sure, because the Haqqanis, as I told you, have had this goal to push the success of what happened in Afghanistan out.

And one of the groups they're doing that with is Boko Haram. So in June, so just last summer, the Haqqanis brought a Boko Haram delegation to Afghanistan and they actually brought them over to the border into Pakistan and they toured ISIS KP training camps. So we don't know exactly who the Haqqanis bought these weapons for, but the interesting thing is I do know some of the weapons that they purchased. So they purchased Russian PKT heavy machine guns, and then they purchased like 150 and 160 millimeter artillery shells.

So the PKT is a huge gun, right? It's not like a one man like holds the gun. So they're purchasing also some like big supplies. And what a lot of people don't know is everyone still thinks it's Libya 2011 and 2012. And these are like stockpiled weapons from Gaddafi. Terrorists are not buying 15, 20 year old weapons, right? They're going to Libya and buying brand new weapons.

So it's like, where are the brand new weapons coming from? So there's like this whole weapons trade going into Libya. Libya is one of the best places in the world right now to buy weapons. And they're coming from Serbia, they're coming from Ukraine, and they're coming from Turkey. And so there's like this giant, almost like weapons depot right now in Libya. They're coming from Ukraine too, huh? Yeah. So those are the major pipelines of weapons coming into Libya.

So these are new weapons. How are they getting in from Ukraine? I don't know exactly what the Ukraine pipeline is. I just know that that's the origins of some of the weapons. So the stuff that we're sending over to Ukraine, is some of it's winding up in Libya? Yeah, I don't know if exactly. The US weapons, but weapons from Ukraine are us winding up in Libya? Yeah, I don't know if exactly the US weapons, weapons from Ukraine are definitely winding up in Libya. Do I know, are they exactly all the ones we provided?

Could they be member? Both militaries are fighting in Ukraine, right? So Ukraine has weapons, Russia has weapons, right? So we have to remember there's both sides of the weapons spectrum in Ukraine and there's corruption on both sides, right? There's corruption on the Ukrainian side, corruption on the Russian side. So the weapons could be coming from either side.

Interesting, interesting. How is AQ kind of developing in Libya? So the really interesting thing is nobody really knows Al Qaeda in Libya exists right now because Al Qaeda in Libya has a deal with the Libyan government, and it is we will not attack inside Libya. So they're running purely as a business in Libya, and then they're helping, obviously,

Al-Qaeda in other places, like Al-Qaeda's trying to set up in Mali, so they're gonna help that piece, right? They've been helping fund different parts of Al-Qaeda around the world. They've helped fund ISIS, you know, so all those type of things. So they've basically done, so terrorists have gotten

really smart, like they're all trying to follow this Taliban model, like, hey, if we're a political organization, we won't be targeted, right? Or targeting will be limited. So Al-Qaeda and Libya have renamed themselves. And they're the Islamic reform movement. And they're trying to make it almost like we're a political group, vice a terrorist group now.

And it's actually all being done by Abdel Hakim Belhaj. So he's kind of one of the most famous Libyan terrorists. He's pretty much the only terrorist most people know, because everyone's like, why isn't he in your Benghazi investigation? Because he wasn't an attacker. He's kind of one of the most famous Libyan terrorists. He's pretty much the only terrorist most people know because everyone's like, why isn't he in your Benghazi investigation? Because he wasn't an attacker. But he is kind of Al-Qaeda's point man

and he's the one kind of doing this whole restructuring. He's the one, right when the Haqqanis come, they're working with Belhaj. He used to be in the CIA black sites, of all things. He runs an airline. I mean, it's just this crazy universe we live in now. Like these terrorists are at least like power brokers. And he is aligned with the government of Libya

that the U.S. is aligned with. So we are on the same side as the Islamic reform movement in Libya, like the U.S. government. The U.S. government's on the wrong side of Libya and we're basically aligned with him. And the U.S.'re basically aligned with him. The US government will downplay him.

I don't even know if he's designated as a terrorist anymore. They will downplay him and say he is not al-Qaeda when he is the head of al-Qaeda right now in Libya. Oh my gosh, man. I can't believe how many people were just pushed into the wayside like nothing happened. Well, the crazy part is too So remember I told you we're following like Hamzah Al-Dar now in Afghanistan. So obviously we found him, right? So we're like we need to get a bounty on him so someone can do something about him obviously a local, right? So we reach out to the FBI and they say hey, there's no budget to put bounties on them

So we asked for a million dollar bounty Well just last week the State Department asked for 53 million budget to put bounties on them, so we asked for a million dollar bounty. Well, just last week, the State Department asked for $53 million to put a new embassy in Tripoli, an embassy in the city where 75% of the at-large Benghazi attackers are being harbored by the government of Libya. So there's plenty of money to put an embassy in, but there's not any money to go after the terrorists who are going to attack that embassy when you put it in.

Isn't that the craziest, like, thinking ever? I just, I just, I don't even, I just don't understand this stuff. Like, I don't, how can this even be happening? It's insane. It's insane. What do you think? What are AQ's plans for the rest of Africa? Yeah. So Africa is kind of like third or fourth in their priorities right now. So it's not a focus as you can imagine because the war plan and Iraq and Syria taking so long. So what they decided to do is, hey, Africa, we're going to give you ownership of Africa

and you basically take our successes and move them forward. But the way we're going to do that is we're going to give you one of the best al-Qaeda operational planners ever to exist and we're going to relocate him from Afghanistan to Mali and then he will head it all, and he's in charge, and he's basically the AQ head for Africa, and you go to him, right? So you don't need to go and check with like the Bin Ladens or Saiful Aadil.

Like you go to him, he's in charge of Africa, okay? So it's almost a little decentralized. So the interesting part is the person who they did this with, his name is Abu Muhammad al-Mazri. He's also known as Abdullah Ahmed Abdullah. Now I'm saying this and every person who knows him is like, he's dead. So the Israelis think they assassinated him in Iran.

They didn't. They killed the wrong guy. And so we can't get anyone to believe us that he's alive, because like, well, the Israelis did it. People need to realize the Israelis have assassinated the wrong people, right? The Lilahimer affair is the greatest example. This is when they went after, his name was Ali Hassan. He kind of ran like the 17th force in the Black September

for the Munich Olympic attacks from 1972. So they thought they assassinated him, you know, up in Scandinavia, but they got the wrong guy. They got like a Moroccan waiter. Well they also got the wrong guy in Iran. So Abu Mohammed is alive. Al-Qaeda has deployed him to Mali and he's now, like I said, the head of Al-Qaeda in Africa.

And he's also the father-in-law of Hamza bin Laden's second wife. Whoa. Whoa. But it's even better. He also was involved in the Kenya and Tanzania embassy bombings, and that's why we think US Embassy Bamako is one of the embassies under the most threat right now.

Do you think they, I'm just curious, do you think they have any interest in all of the natural resources in Africa? So the really interesting part is Al-Qaeda, yes. ISIS has been better at capitalizing on it. ISIS and Wagner group, you know, of taking the mines. But Al-Qaeda now realizes how profitable it is. So Al-Qaeda and Taliban took over 11 illegal mines in the northern parts of Afghanistan

in the last couple of years, and they're making 25 million a month. So $25 million a month comes into the Taliban, 25% of it goes off the top to Al-Qaeda. So far, Al-Qaeda has made 200 million a load off of only 11 illegal mines. So yes, they now understand how profitable it is. And I do think that they're going to now take more advantage now that they've realized,

wow, this is major money. $25 million a month is huge money. Who is the most powerful terrorist organization right now? I mean, I'm biased. I mean, I still think it's Al Qaeda. I still think it's the Bin Laden's. And they're pretty much intertwined with just about everybody now. Yes.

Is there anybody that's pushing back on them? Is there any, I mean, is there any terrorist rivalry or? To Al Qaeda? Yeah. Zero. Nothing. Nothing. terrorist rivalry or or to al-qaeda. Yeah zero nothing nothing. So it's becoming just one big Organization. Yeah, and what al-qaeda has been really smart the only rival they would have is Isis so they've been really smart and they've been like Remember I told you they can move weapons and they don't really pay for it

They've given Isis weapons, ISIS weapons for free in Afghanistan. Actually like 20% of the ISIS KP budget actually comes from Al-Qaeda. So Al-Qaeda has been very, very smart to actually almost like pay ISIS off to leave them alone. But also there has been crossover between the two groups too, as you can imagine, especially like I told you, Libya is a great example. So yeah, I don't see anyone right now going after Al-Qaeda. Man, how does the terrorism in Libya tie into Palestinian terrorism?

Yeah, that's really interesting. That's such a historical thing that people don't understand. So it goes back actually to 1911. In Libya, there was a hero, Omar al-Mukhtar, okay? He ran the first Libyan revolution, and that at the time was against the Italians. So he was fighting this revolution, and a gentleman named Isidhi in al-Qasim, he was born in the Ottoman Empire, he was basically born in Syria, He ended up settling in what became the British mandate of Palestine. He came and fought with Omar Muqdar.

If that name sounds familiar, that's where the Al Qasim Brigades is named after that obviously just did the Hamas attacks. The Libya relationship goes back very strong to Palestinian terrorism to 1911. Then we've already kind of discussed Munich, but Gaddafi, when he was in power, he funded part of the Olympic Village attack in 1972 in Munich against the Israeli athletes. Even beyond that, he buried the dead terrorists

from Black September in Tripoli, so they're in Tripoli right now. So when the Hamas attacks are happening, there was a lot of press coming out about the air campaign, right? And there was a name associated with it. It was Zawari. That is actually a Libyan Tunisian. A lot of people think he's only Tunisian

because his actually like real name isn't public. So it's only his kunya that everybody knows. So he is the person who created the drone program for Hamas. And he's also close to a lot of our Benghazi attackers, to include Wasam bin Hamid. And they basically ran a group in Libya called the Hamas cell. And what the Hamas cell did, it basically was just an organization that moved weapons and whatnot, aid to Hamas over the years, to Gaza. Wasam bin Hamed was involved in the fake mastermind.

Ahmed Abu Qatala is involved. We even put a picture of Ahmed Abu Qatala in Gaza in the book. So one of his pictures is actually him inside Gaza around 2011. When Wasam bin Hamed, he's our mastermind of the mortar attack. When he was killed, Abu Ubaidah, who's really famous now, the spokesperson for Hamas, basically put out a post on his now defunct Twitter, and he said,

hey, we want everyone to know this hero was like the number one supplier of weapons to the Al Qasim Brigade. So our Benghazi attacker who did the C.I.Anis attack that no one went after was Hamas's number one weapons supplier. Now, one more piece of the weapons supply. The last piece is basically a gentleman in College Sharif,

another terrorist that was in the black sites. So after the Libyan Revolution, the new one, the 2011 one, he made this organization called the Libyan National Guard. The US government got in a relationship with him, and basically what he was using it as was a cover and a front to buy new weapons for Hamas. And he was doing it at the time with the Hamas. Hamas had a representative sent from Gaza to Libya, and his name was Marwan Ashkar.

Khalid Sharif and Marwan used to buy new weapons as the National Guard. Even Marwan had a National Guard ID card, like he's a Libyan, so he could carry weapons in Libya. Then they would obviously send those weapons to Gaza. The Libyan government did go after Marwan just because it was such a big criminal enterprise, as you can imagine. He got detained in 2016. But since the attacks in Gaza in October, and like I said, so many Libyans are very

pro the Palestinian cause, the prime minister, who is the one I told you that released a lot of our terrorists, but the terrorists in the summer, Dabiba, he released the Hamas cell in December, just this past December. And it was all over the press because he released them and they got on a private plane from Tripoli to Qatar. So yeah, it's so interconnected, Hamas. And the funny thing is when we put our book out, we actually went back and forth,

how much Hamas do we put in? Because it's going to throw people off because they don't understand the connectivity, they keep Al-Qaeda and Hamas separate. And so we only just touched on it. And then in retrospect, we should have explained this more to people, right? Because now they don't understand. So when I say Al-Qaeda is training and then in retrospect, like we should have explained this more to people, right? Because now they don't understand.

So when I say, Al-Qaeda is training Hamas in Afghanistan, people think it sounds crazy. It's like, no, this relationship is going on a really long time, right? It's just, you didn't collect it that way, so you don't ignore it exists. Man. It's crazy how this all ties in.

I know. What I always try to tell people is like, so you know how we look at things like an org structure and that's how the US government looks at stuff, right? Like Al Qaeda, ISIS, and like China of all things, everything has this kind of like wrapped around interconnectedness and that's actually how terrorism is, but we're viewing it from almost like a Western focus and we don't know how to view it another way, but we need to start. Yeah, that's a good point. How involved do you think all these terrorist organizations are with China?

Are they friendly with them? Sure. So, I mean, I can talk about like China, Afghanistan is the best piece, if that makes sense. Well, we'll get into that. We'll get into that. Sure Because yeah, that's that's Afghanistan specific. I know because the thing is China has one major terrorist group They're focused on whether not tears the Uighurs, right? And so China Uses relationships with other terrorists to collect on the terrorists are going after if that makes sense

So China has collaborative relationships that you could almost call counter-terrorism relationships with terrorist groups to collect on the people they want to collect on. So they do it for advantageous purposes. Do you think there's any collaboration going on in Latin America with them, or is it all Afghanistan? I'm not entirely sure. Like I don't know the answer to that question. Now China's very smart.

If there was a benefit they got from working with a terrorist group that has a foothold in a place in Latin America where they're trying to build a port or establish something, I think they'd make the relationships, right? Terrorists, narco, whomever is gonna get them to their goal. Okay, makes sense. I appreciate that.

So let's transition to Afghanistan. I think we all saw the State of the Union when Steve Nikkew, is that my saying his name correctly? Nikkew. Yeah, I'm not good yet. It's Kream's father Yeah, his son died at Abigay in Afghanistan and Unfortunately was escorted out for

yelling the United States Marine Corps and and And handcuffed which is ridiculous. We're all super offended by this, by the way. Yeah, yeah. And anyways, I know you want to go on about some of the master pine behind Abbey Gade. Yeah, I mean, well, last time I was here, we talked about the actual suicide bomber and that he got released from Bagram, which we still

have held no one accountable for that, which blows my mind. But as someone who's obviously gone after the terrorists at an attack, right, focus on the masterminds like we did for Benghazi, I do want to explain a little bit about the Abbey Gate suicide bomber because I feel like I need to explain some so the families understand like, hey, maybe US isn't the solution to getting here, right? Maybe we have to go another way. I mean, I learned this in Benghazi, right? How Benghazi worked is the mastermind of the consulate attack taken up by the French. On my birthday, by the way, thank you, France.

The mastermind of the annex attack taken out by the Libyan National Army and the Emirati Air Force, right? The other top two leaders of AQRM involved in the attack taken out by the French, right? So we need to move beyond the fact that the US is the only one who's going to go after these guys because they're not. So the really interesting piece with the mastermind attack is named Sanula Ghaffari, okay? So he's the head of ISKP in the Pakistan Afghanistan border region.

What a lot of people don't know is around like 2018, early 2019 timeframe, he was running the Haqqani Network cell in Kabul. So he had a thousand Haqqani Network members under him and was basically really close to Siraj-ud-Din Haqqani. And Siraj-ud-Din said, hey, we're putting this Doha deal into place. And when this Doha deal goes into place, as the Haqqani Network, I will no longer be able to do suicide attacks and suicide bombings

because it's part of the deal that we're not going to do them anymore. I need a way to still commit the attacks I need to commit. Sanula, will you join ISIS? And if you join ISIS, I will let you have our networks. I will let you have the resources you need for attacks. And so Sanula agreed and Sanullah basically became a plant in ISIS. And he actually, because of his network in Kabul, basically became quickly the head of ISIS, ISKP for Kabul.

So come around March 2020, ISKP is having their shura meeting. So all their senior leaders who run the different committees and the head, and it's down in Kandahar, it gets raided. So it's raided by a command of Sami Sadat. So they go in and they arrest everyone. They arrest 38 people and they detain them all. So all the senior leadership now of ISKP is basically in prison. And the funny part is they also arrested four Russian women with them, which is actually

like super funny because I'm going to just tell a little story. I don't really tell stories, but I was on an airplane once to Quetta and there was hardly anyone on the plane. So the flight attendant got really chatty with me and then she goes, are you Russian? And I said, no, why would you ever think I'm Russian? She said the only white people who come to Quetta are Russian prostitutes. And I was like, what? You think I'm a prostitute?

So the funny part is when I heard there's four Russian prostitutes. And I was like, what, you think I'm a prostitute? So the funny part is when I heard there's four Russian women in this raid, I'm like, oh my God, that's where the Russian prostitutes go. They hang on the wings of the shurma eating for the terrorists. So anyway, which is another thing, right? These terrorists want to stone women for adultery and they're bringing in Russian prostitutes and I'm tired of their crap.

So anyway, so that now is Oslam Farooqi, okay? So Oslam Farooqi was the head of ISKP. He started the group. He was a Pakistani, and he came from a group called the Turki Taliban Pakistan, okay? So he's now in prison. So ISKP is like, who's gonna lead us? And they're like, well, the son, Ulaula kind of has the most guys under him in Kabul, and

they started just deferring to him, and he became the leader of ISKP. So now we have the leader of ISKP is a Haqqani plant. Does this not blow your mind? So the Abbey Gate attack happens, right? When the abbey gate attack happened, Haqqani Network had taken over the external perimeter security outside. So all those security checkpoints were the Haqqani Network. So this suicide bomber went through Haqqani Network checkpoints. The one thing he was promised, Sanula, if you go embed yourself

in ISIS-K and you need to do attacks, you get the green light. You can use all of our networks. So anyone who acts like this was just an ISKP attack when it was led by a Haqqani plant in ISKP, right? It's a huge disconnect. But then I want the parents to understand this, right? The US is aligned now, basically, with this Haqqani network. Siraj-Edin Haqqani has very strong feelings for Sanula. Sanula has kind of gone off and done a lot of his own since, right?

I don't think Siraj-Eqqani is telling him everything to do, but the relationship's close enough to where Siraj-Edin Haqqani is not going to kill Sanaullahula Ghaffari. I really hope that the families really just understand this issue. The other piece is that ISKP has a headquarters in Kona, and there's an individual who actually stays at that headquarters. You have a mastermind for attack, but you have to have a guy who puts all the pieces together to make an attack happen.

So for Abbie Gate, that guy is Abdullah Omar Bajawari. And right now, he is the head of Intel for ISKP. So that's another target that they should be going after for Abby Gate, because he's kind of the platter and planner, and we don't even hear his name brought up, right? So if we're talking about justice for Abby Gate, and no one's even talking about the key people we need to be taking out, I don't even know if there's active efforts to go after these people. It doesn't sound like there are.

No. At all. Moving into ISKP and ISIS, you know, who's leading it? Yeah, so basically when we talk about the ISIS, everyone knows, right? So that's Iraq and Syria, okay? People are so semantics with the words now, like you need to just say IS because you're not talking Iraq and Syria, but just ISIS is easiest way.

ISIS is your Iraq, Syria one. What has happened, starting in 2020, the real ISIS took 200 people and they said, hey, we need to find a new safe haven. They tried Africa, it didn't work. We need to find a new safe haven. They tried Africa, it didn't work. We need to find a new safe haven, let's go test the waters and places. So these 200 went to Baluchistan, Pakistan. They went to a small area called Panjgur, okay? And they settled there and they said,

let's see if this works. There was some really strategic reasons why they chose it, access to the sea through Baluchistan. The Baluchis are very supportive about tax in Iran. ISIS wanted to focus more on Iran there. The Baluchis also in that area, which a lot of people don't understand who are aligned with ISIS, have Iranian, Pakistani, and Afghan citizenship. So they can run all the routes in that area and move freely between three countries, unlike other people would be able to. So anyway, they move these 200 people,

they're like, it's safe. So then ISIS started moving all their senior leaders and then all the heads of the committees, so the Shura committee, the operational committee, the leadership committee, the media committee. So all of ISIS basically now is based in the Pakistan Afghanistan border region in this Panj Ghor.

So they have now deferred to the ISIS leader for the region who is Sana'ullah Ghaffari. So Sana'ullah Ghaffari is actually the de facto head of real ISIS. So a Haqqani plant is the head of ISIS, which is the craziest thing ever that ISIS would even allow this to occur. But anyway, so that's kind of who is running it. And so the leadership is based in Balochistan. And then like I told you, the ISKP kind of headquarters is in Konar. But then all the ISKP camps are in Pakistan.

The biggest camp is in Aroxi, Pakistan. Aroxi, again, is where the founder came from. Unfortunately, that camp is, the best way to put it is, there is a problem in the Pakistani military because that camp is basically protected by Pakistan's Frontier Corps, which is a piece of the Pakistani military. And so they're kind of like the National Guard, if you move the National Guard to the border. But when I served in Pakistan, so there's a big enclave, obviously,

all the embassies are on, right? And so every embassy has like, you know, personal security, whatever company you would pay of local guards. But then outside those embassies, so on the streets around all the embassies in the enclave, it was protected by the Frontier Corps. So basically the Frontier Corps now is infiltrated by ISKP. They're harboring ISKP, they're working with ISKP, and I don't know where all the Frontier Corps is protecting the Americans and other foreigners in Pakistan, but this is a huge problem as you can imagine.

The insider threat potential of ISIS using them is a big concern. How many kind of subsidiary organizations are there under ISIS? Oh my gosh. So ISIS is one of those places, like everywhere they go they make a branch. I think there's like six in Africa. So in Africa, they're the strongest in Mali, Somalia, and then Mozambique. Like in Mozambique, there's still 800,000 people displaced.

Like people aren't paying attention. Like this is still going on there. So those are, I'd say the three biggest fighting-wise, and then probably one of the richest is, like I said, the ISIS in Libya. How is, what is the size of ISKP in Afghanistan, Pakistan? So I only have like the 2022 number, and that's about 7,000 bodies.

So it's probably higher than that. So the thing is, so I told you, most of ISIS moved to Balochistan, right? So there's about 5,000 fighter type of ISIS still in Syria and Iraq, and then all the rest of the terrorists in Syria and Iraq are these new al-Qaeda trainees coming in, okay? And then, I totally just never lose my restraint of thought

and I totally lost my restraint of thought. So then- We're kind of talking about the strength of ISIS and Afghanistan, Pakistan. Yeah, oh, sorry. And the subsidiary organizations. So the interesting part is a lot of central Asians decided to join ISIS, okay?

And they joined ISIS by going to Syria and fighting, okay? Now the Syria piece is draining down from ISIS. So those like Tajiks, Uzbeks, et cetera, now are leaving Syria, but they're staying in ISIS, but they're not going all the way to Balochistan. They're not really senior leaders. So they're going circling back and they're joining ISKP. So ISKP started as about 70% of it was formed from the Afghan Taliban and the Pakistani

Taliban. About 15 to 20% of it now is kind of the Central Asian Tajiks. But the interesting part is people don't understand that that's still a small percent of ISKP. They see four Tajik guys in the Moscow attacks and they're like, oh no, it's a Tajik organization now. The Taliban and al-Qaeda are worried, especially about Russia, and they're like Russia could bring problems for us. Now they're even spinning it and they're even putting propaganda out.

ISKP is a Tajik organization. It's essentially an Asian organization. It's not an Afghan. It's like, no guys, it's run by an Afghan. Sanu al-Ghaffari grew up in damn Kabul, right? But they are trying to play that. And the interesting part is, they... So ISKP does not think people understand how much they have in Pakistan and most of their

stuff's based in Pakistan, because it's very hush-hush, right? So Sanu al-Ghaffari left Konar, where he'd been, and he moved down to Panjgur just days ago because he doesn't think the Russians know ISIS senior leadership is based in Panjgur, and so he moved there for his safety. The interesting part is the Pakistanis have yet to take a strike on ISIS KP anywhere in Pakistani territory. The only government or military that has tried to strike ISIS in Pakistan is Iran of all things.

So earlier this year, ISIS did- Iran tried to strike ISIS? Yes. So earlier this year, Iran did the big suicide bombing at members Sulaimani's four year memorial ceremony and like 90 people were killed. Earlier this year, Iran did the big suicide bombing at member Sulaimani's four-year memorial ceremony and like 90 people were killed. Well, Iran was smart and knew ISIS had moved to Panjgurah. So Iran did a strike into Panjgurah trying to hit ISIS, and they missed them, and they

hit another compound. So then they publicly said, oh, we're going after a Jair Shalh al-Adl. It's just the old Jandala. So they said, oh, because they didn't a Jair Shalhada, it's just the old Jandala. So they said, oh, cause they didn't want to admit they missed ISIS, but yeah, Iran shot in and tried to hit ISIS senior leadership. But yeah, so anyway,

there's only been one strike on the ISIS safe haven since it was started in 2022 in Balochistan. So they do feel safe there and they have been safe there. It's weird how this is all kind of tying in. Is anybody from the Taliban going after ISIS? Yeah. On paper, the GDI, which is the Taliban CIA, is supposed to be going after ISIS, and they're the ones getting supposedly the majority of the ISIS dollars to hunt ISIS.

So the Taliban only goes after ISIS if ISIS is impacting them in some way, so if ISIS is going to do an attack on them. So the really interesting part is, I told you, ISKP has some sort of affinity to the Haqqani side of the Taliban. The Taliban's broken into two sides, two kind of warring factions. There's the Haqqani side, and then there's what we call the Kandahari Taliban side. So obviously, Siraj Haqqani is this one, that's clear. And then the Kandahari Taliban side is basically the head of the Taliban, Haibatullah, and

then it's basically Mullah Omar's son, Yaqub, and then it's Mullah Brader, okay? So these two sides are constantly warring. So the interesting part is, ISKP is mostly attacking the Kandahari Taliban side. I think there's only been maybe one attack that you could maybe call, and it's only because it was near the building that Siraj worked in,

but I still don't know if that was really any attack on Haqqani. So anyway, that's who they're going after. So just you have to understand this nuance that they're not even attacking all parts of the Taliban. The other thing is the Taliban are keeping ISIS in play and not going against ISIS for any of their external plotting or training, et cetera,

because they need ISIS to stay a threat. They need ISIS to have some successful attacks because they need to keep the US ISIS dollars going in. So as long as you keep ISIS as a threat, you'll keep getting paid to go after them. The biggest issue with GDI right now is they're holding two Americans hostage. For everyone who just heard that, yes, you're being lied to. The American in custody, Ryan Corbett, is locked in a cell with another American. It's never been made public.

The Taliban are actually holding three Americans. Last week the press finally realized it's two, but they don't even know. So the Taliban is holding three Americans. Two are locked in a cell together. Okay? One, the family, the State Department for so long said, don't say it publicly, we're going to negotiate, we're going to get them out, and they didn't. The family finally said, hey, we're going to make it public, the Taliban has our family

member. So, we are paying them weekly to go after ISIS, and they basically have two Americans locked in their basement. And the worst part is, there's kind of like this deteriorating health situation. So it used to be the two of them in a brick. The brick got out and he almost died of septus, but he basically said, hey, when I was in, the only reason I stayed alive is the two Americans in there were like helping me keep me alive because they're not getting much food or adequate nutrition.

And if you're not feeling your body well, you have organs that break down. It affects the brain. So yeah, we also have two Americans who are basically suffering severe health consequences in GDI. Who are they? Ryan Corbett is one of them. And then the other one hasn't been made public. The other two Americans haven't been made public yet because the State Department is

doing something. But then the interesting part is, so that's the biggest problem. We should not be giving a penny to the organization holding Americans in their basement. The other piece is that a lot of people don't know is so how GDI is structured. They have like different departments focused on different things. They have one department. It translates to the Immigrants Department. That department solely funds and supports the Pakistani Taliban, so the tricky Taliban

Pakistan I told you about. They're the ones doing all their tax right now in Pakistan. GDI has a unit that just supports them. The really interesting thing that a lot of people don't understand is the Taliban has gotten really smart. If you worked in Afghanistan ever, everyone says everything's ISI in Pakistan. When you work in Pakistan, every attack is, oh, it's the Indians or the Afghans. The Afghan Taliban is like, why not use that to our advantage?

So what they're doing is they're rotating Taliban units into the TTP in Pakistan and being involved in the attacks, right? So they're doing all these attacks. They did like 800 attacks in the last year in Pakistan. They've completely resurged into one of the biggest terrorist groups in the region. Now think about it. When the Pakistani military comes and kills eight guys and say, well, two are Afghan Taliban, everyone's like, yeah, you're crazy. You're just calling them Afghan because you're Pakistanis and you always did that when they

weren't Afghan. So yeah, they're basically doing these attacks right now in Pakistan, part of their Fata war plan, and nobody actually knows that that's the Afghan Taliban doing it. That's one department of the GDI, and that affects Pakistan. The other, but TTP has attacked us. TTP did the Marriott bombing that killed Americans, and TTP did the Peshawar consulate. It's an American group we'll focus on. Now the 12th Department of the GDI is the most interesting.

So the 12th Department's job, their only job is to protect Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. So they have branches over the whole country and all their intelligence shops, and their jobs are very simple. Okay, they protect the 30 al-Qaeda training camps. They do all the vetting. So any new recruit, it could be Afghan, it could be Jordanian, Syrian, Egyptian, they do the vetting for the new recruits before they start training camp. They do all the movements.

So they move all the new trainees in, they move them around, they move all the senior leadership of Al-Qaeda around, and then what they do is when they move Al-Qaeda senior leadership around, they put them in their own houses, right? Because they know we got a relationship with the US government, they're not gonna strike us, so they're actually harboring them inside their own houses. And then they're basically in control of,

they're helping protect Al-Qaeda's money, like their cash holdings in Afghanistan, which they have very large cash holdings, as I've even just, I told you, even just a small mind piece. And then they're doing all the border movements for al Qaeda. So there is one unit in the GDI, their sole job is supporting al-Qaeda in Afghanistan. That's it. Man, so Taliban is aligned with Iran, correct? Yes. And al-Qaeda is.

So that means al-Qaeda is obviously aligned with Iran too. Yeah. And so is that why Taliban and ISIS are kind of fighting? Is it because of, I mean, what stemmed that? So basically what stemmed that, it kind of touches, your nuance is interesting. So years ago, al-Qaeda and ISIS was to in Afghanistan, there was now a new leader of the Taliban. His name is Muqdar Mohammed Mansour.

He becomes a leader of the Taliban, and he wants to make it more cohesive between the Taliban in Afghanistan and Iran. He's like, I want to bring us closer together. ISIS, who was kind of like new forming and getting their feet wet, they're like, no, we want to make the Shia a target for ISIS and we don't want to stop. And Mansoor is like, no, you will not target Shia. We will not let it happen. And that's kind of when the big rubber hit the road between ISIS and the Taliban.

And so even people left the Taliban then and said, no, we're going to join ISIS. Like, you're being too wishy-washy on this subject. And so that is kind of where it started, kind of this being able to attack Shia. But it wasn't exactly to do with Iranians in your leadership, it was just having the targets free to still be going after the Iranian targets. How long has this been going on? I don't know, he was maybe killed, maybe six years.

Six years. Who would be, who do you consider to be more powerful, Al-Qa'aq, Taliban or ISIS? I mean, Taliban on paper is the most powerful, but Al-Qa'aq is still the most capable. And then ISIS has just been the one who can get the most press. But when we look at numbers, ISIS doesn't even come close, right? So like, if we take all the ISIS in Iraq and Syria, can get the most press. But when we look at numbers, ISIS doesn't even come close.

If we take all the ISIS in Iraq and Syria, what we think is in Balochistan and the training camps, ISIS is no more than 20K between those few countries years recruited 170,000 new members to their military. So the numbers are huge for the Taliban. Al-Qaeda in those 30 camps have recruited, by the end of this year, they will have 100,000 new trained recruits, right? So Al-Qaeda is so much bigger right now than ISIS. They're just not doing the spectacular attacks to get the attention, right? Because it doesn't benefit them right now because they want to do these quiet attacks in Iraq and Syria and everyone think it's ISIS, which they seem to be working successfully. And then they want to focus

on the war plan. OK. OK. Man. Moving back to Afghanistan, how many of our allies have been captured since we pulled out of there? Yeah. So these numbers are pretty sombering.

I mean, they were asked recently on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, and of course our military leaders didn't even know them right, which is really frustrating. So I'll do like killed, captured. So the number of our allies killed right now is just over 10,000. The number of our allies captured is 30,000. 18,000 of the 30,000 have gone through kind of like this fake justice system. I don't know what you call it. They basically go through whatever Taliban Sharia law court is

and then you get a prison sentence or you get executed or whatever they decide your fate is. 12,000 are completely missing from the Allied count. We don't know if they're dead, being tortured. There's all these secret prisons. There's like GDI has secret prisons, the MOI, the Ministry of Interior has a secret prison, the MOD, Ministry of Defense has secret prisons.

There's a freaking secret prison in Gecko Base. There's a secret prison in Hellman. So it's very unclear, right, who of the 12,000 is alive and who's dead. Now I'm just talking allies. So we have 12,000 missing allies. There are 70,000 missing Afghans altogether. 70,000? Yes.

That are in one of these secret prisons or dead in their family has not been modified because they just, a cabin came and they disappeared and they were saw them again. So, see, the numbers are staggering. And then... I just want to, for the audience who are wondering what allies we're talking about, we're talking about the Afghans that we were partnered with,

that we were training, that we were fighting with alongside for 20 years. Yeah, when I'm talking about allies, I'm pretty much only talking the military and police that worked with us. Basically, there's 200,000 of them in this bucket, okay, in Afghanistan. So what the Taliban has done is they've gone in

and taken their homes, right, taken their properties, taken their businesses, they've pushed them off their land. Heck, they've cut power. I know some that the Taliban cut power two years ago and refused to put it back on, but like one guy was like, because he was a police officer, like they won't put the power back on his house. So people need to understand there's 200,000 of these being impacted,

just of our allies. They've already killed 10,000 of them. And remember, in the 20 plus years of war we were in, just under 2,500 Americans died in two and a half years, 10,000 of these police and military died. And remember, those aren't the numbers even that include the women who've been killed or any of that. The women, the ones who've been able to report,

80,000 have reported rape in the last two and a half years and 15,000 children have reported rape in the last two and a half years. And these are people capable of reporting. Most of these people are prisoners in their own house and can't even get out and say, something has happened to me. I've been impacted by something.

And that's so that is just so sad. You know, I it I've seen the videos of what they're doing to them. Yeah. Oh, the torture videos are horrible that they're sending to Americans. It's a disgrace. Mm hmm. You know, that we just abandoned them them like that just at the drop of the dime. Yep What do you think is gonna happen if we have to go back in there? Do you think any of these people are gonna partner with Americans ever again? Yeah Well, I think they will because a lot of my information comes from people still willing to partner with Americans, right?

the thing is though I do not think we should do you US troops on the ground because we lost in Afghanistan because of US policy. US policy is not going to change where we fight a better war against terrorism. No way. We even see that with why we're trying to dictate Israel's war. The US are not going to go and eliminate a terrorist group in Afghanistan. We don't have it in us.

I watched it. I got to watch it in East Libya. I got to watch General Hoffcar do it, right? He did it the way he needed to do it, and he was very successful, but that is not the way the Americans are gonna do it. So I think the Americans should and will end up be supporting the anti-Taliban resistance,

probably the Pakistani military, but the Pakistan military, we gotta deal with some major issues, right? Especially the fact that they are almost stuck with their only level being ISIS, which is crazy, right? But they need to realize ISIS is not a lever, right? No good comes from any government who uses ISIS against other groups, right? So we have to deal with something. We got to maybe take the money we're giving to Taliban and ISIS and give it to the resistance in Pakistan.

We have to do something to break Pakistan giving ISIS the safe haven. But anyway, because remember, all those years we fought in Afghanistan, terrorists fell back to Pakistan, right? And luckily we did capture and kill some there, but that's still a safe haven for them. So even if, let's say, we fund the resistance like we're doing Ukraine or something, and they go in, if a bunch of terrorists fall back to Pakistan and they can't action them, we get back to the same situation, right? We have to keep the terrorists contained in Afghanistan and get them in Afghanistan.

That is what needs to be done. We got into this mess with Pakistan years ago when we funded the old Mujahideen against the Soviets. I do think the only way out of this and the only way to deal with this insane terrorist safe haven in Afghanistan is we got to do with Pakistan and we got to do it with the anti-Taliban resistance and somehow we got to get the anti-Taliban resistance in Pakistan to be like, guess what? Water under the bridge, a lot of bad history,

but the future is worse. We have to work together, and I think that's gonna be any future of a success. Man. Since the last time we spoke, you had mentioned that there are Benghazi terrorists in Afghanistan. Have there been any developments on that?

Mostly just the fact that, like I said, we've confirmed their locations. We told you we've identified. So remember, we found Moussa, and then we proved that he is making these passports, right? So that's kind of the key thing we've been working on in terms of Afghanistan. And then, as you can imagine, there's others in the hopper that we think are going to move

to Afghanistan. And so working on them and then- Are they key players? Key players. What do you think they'll be doing? To be honest, some are probably going to take senior leadership roles in al-Qaeda. So we have this second generation issue, if that makes sense. So when the Benghazi attacks happened, we killed a terrorist named Abu Yaqya Al-Libi, right? He has sons now,

right? Where are his sons? There was another senior terrorist, Abu Faraj Al-Libi. Where are his sons? We had the planner of the Kenzi and Tanzania attacks, Abu Anas Alibi, that we captured in Libya, his son now is Al-Qaeda. So there's this second generation that if they didn't grow up in Afghanistan, they now want to move in and do kind of basically what their fathers did and move up in the ranks and be this next generation of al-Qaeda. And that's being completely ignored. So we're trying to, at least the best we can in our investigation, try to figure out where

these second generation are. And the crazy part is, he wasn't one of our attackers, but there is a second generation al-Qaeda guy. He's now running al-Qaeda kind of in the northern part of Afghanistan. He's the key al-Qaeda guy, he's now running Al-Qaeda kind of in the northern part of Afghanistan. He's the key Al-Qaeda commander. And his son, of all things, it went the other way. His son just showed up in Libya. His sons never lived in Libya.

He moved to Afghanistan during the Mujahideen era. He spent years in Bosnia. The Russians captured him in Bosnia, locked him up. At some point, they released him. The Russians captured him in Bosnia, locked him up. At some point they released him. The son has only ever lived in Afghanistan. And then he just showed up in Libya this week. It's like, okay, now what's going on? So there's this huge gap in the second generation

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Let's get back to the show. Thank you All right, Sarah we're back from the break downstairs we had a kind of an offshoot discussion about how Terrorists are misusing the US justice system. Can you go into that a little bit for the audience? Yeah, we touched on this in our book But I want to like give the full details of actually what's happening so people understand. So at least in the case of Benghazi, we have two terrorist families who are using the US justice system to basically do court cases against the people doing the counterterrorism

operations against them. So they're basically counting operations against terrorists as war crimes. I mean, if you can understand how this becomes a problem. So the two families I want to talk about really briefly, one of the terrorists that are attacked, his name is Ali al-Karshini, okay? Long story short, he was with the group Anta al-Ashari Benghazi the night of the attacks before that He was with the Egyptian Islamic Jihad. That was the group that dr. I'm in Al-Zawahiri You know the head of Al-Qaeda that directed our attacks. That's the group he originally came from

so Karshini the night of the attacks. He was one of the commanders how that terrorist group set it up is each Commander for each district in town became the commander of the terrorists under them at the attack So he was the commander from his district and then like all the commanders who reported to the AQ head For Libya for a QIM. He was named Omar Shalali. So just so you know in the org structure So this is one of the senior commanders leading terrorists at a consulate attack. Then two years later in Libya, they capture the Jordanian ambassador and he holds a Jordanian ambassador in his house.

He does this actually with the FBI witness I told you about. That's another crime the FBI witness was involved in. Besides killing the intelligence officer, he was involved in the kidnapping of the Jordanian ambassador in 2014. So in May of 2014, there's a prisoner exchange. They release a very senior al-Qaeda terrorist, and the Jordanian ambassador gets freed. So the Libyan National Army obviously sets up operation to go after the property, as you can imagine. The ambassador was held at. In October of that year, they raid the property, the Karshini House, where the ambassador was

kept. They found millions upon millions of US dollars, Libyan dinar, weapons, official documents for Anas Al-Ashari Benghazi, all in this family compound, okay? During the raid, the terrorist who attacked us, Karshini, died. His family that owns that house are suing General Haftar right now in a US court for this raid that killed the terrorist that attacked us. Isn't that crazy?

So that's one piece of the court case. The second piece is another family called the Binsuwades. So the Binsuwades are just a huge terrorist family. I know of 10 terrorists in their family, okay? So it was this little, this cell of their family basically ran an assassination cell in Benghazi, and they were killing all the police and military, anyone who wanted to become a judge. You know how I explained how all those assassinations were happening that Al-Qaeda's Abu Nasser

Alibi set up. So, they were one of these assassination cells. Well, when General Haftar went to kick off his Operation Dignity, that's the big counterterrorism operation that started in 2014, against the attackers, the neighborhood these terrorists lived in said, hey, in this neighborhood, we're going to support the Libyan National Army. That was Haftar's force. Nobody fights the LNA. As this war is kicking off, one of the first days, the LNA are moving around and there's

basically gunfire coming from the Swades house. When we were in Benghazi, they're the house that had all the black flags. This is a very extreme family. They start just randomly shooting. I don't even know if they have a target at the point. The residents in the neighborhood are like, what the heck are you doing? They all mobbed the house. And so the residents mobbed the house, and then there was a small group in that neighborhood,

one in multiple neighborhoods. It was called Guardians of the Blood. It was basically like a vigilante group that went after the people who were killing the good guys. So they were involved in this too. And so they get to the house and then they actually let, like they said, women and children, you can leave the house and they left the house.

And then it became a whole fight and a gunfire. And then these three, like a father and two sons died. So the Libyan National Army weren't even at the house doing this. That family is also involved in the court case here in the United States, a Libyan family. Remember, these are no Americans involved. A Libyan family is suing General Hofdorff for war crimes in that case when his people didn't even kill that family.

Now the one thing that matters to us in Benghazi is this family of the Tenteris I told you about, two family members have been involved in killing Americans. One is Salim bin Sawade. He was involved in the 2002 assassination of Larry Foley, the USAID worker in Jordan. Luckily, Jordanians captured him and they executed him two years later. That's how you should be handling terrorists. Then Salim bin Sawade, we've never released him yet because I don't have his photo. So if everyone has their photo

and they want to send it to me, we can release him. He was one of our 2012 Benghazi attackers. So he was involved in the deaths of, you know, Ambassador Stevens and Sean Smith. And again, so these terrorist families are getting to use our system. So then you ask, right, how are like Libyans able to even afford a court case in America?

Because that's what I asked. So the Karshinis are very wealthy. So the one with the first terrace, they run kind of like granite companies. So they're a wealthy family. The Suez were like, poor as crap when we were there. We realized they've become rich over the years, a little bit through kind of like shady NGO stuff. But we actually ended up finding out a part of their cases seemed to be funded by the Muslim Brotherhood.

What a lot of people don't understand is, so the Muslim Brotherhood is banned in like Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the Emirates. It's not banned in America. And the reason it's not banned in America, which is crazy, right, is because it makes so much money. It's this giant lobbying firm. And I don't like to get political, but it brings a lot of money to the Democratic Party. So I don't think Muslim Brotherhood is going to be banned here.

But it's a problem because Muslim Brotherhood influences things. And Muslim Brotherhood will fund cases in our systems that support extremism, different terrorists, things, that type of thing. In this case, because the Muslim Brotherhood member lives in America, I'm not going to say his name, but here's a little story about three brothers. One lives in America, he's in Virginia, he's a surgeon. He's the one that basically went to these families, hey, what kind of support do you need for the Muslim Brotherhood?

His cover, his Muslim Brotherhood cover in the United States is he runs a bunch of Libyan American organizations. They have relationships with the State Department. Even a year after our attacks, there is a group letter. It was like Libyans and American diplomats. And it said, hey, we know Ambassador Stevens died a year ago, but you're kind of ignoring Libya. We want you to do more with the Libyans and the Libyan government.

He signed that letter, right? So it's this lobbying thing for Libya. So he's involved, okay? And then he has two brothers. He has another brother who is a Libyan ambassador, right? So we got an American, we got a Libyan politician. The third brother is Al-Qaeda. So he basically, he's been Al-Qaeda since like the 90s.

He moved to Bosnia and fought with the Mujahideen in the Bosnia war, and then he stayed there. And now he's obviously older. And so what he does now is he facilitates Al-Qaeda and ISIS members through Europe. The thing he mostly focuses on is like the injured ones, like they were fought somewhere, and then he brings them to Europe to get medical attention. So one of our attackers that we identified in May, Jabril Al-Khepti, we actually found out that this third brother, the Al-Qaeda guy, that this third brother, the Al-Qaeda guy, brought Jabril and nine other ISIS members from Turkey over to Bosnia to get medical treatment.

And the interesting part is we got the names of all 10 terrorists in our investigation and their passports. And I actually put, it happened in 2016, and I put a little post on it. LinkedIn took it down, right? It's like, they're like protecting like, me talking about ISIS moving around Europe

and they actually took the post down. It's just another one of the censorship things. So anyway, people need to understand, we don't like to talk about Muslim Brotherhood too much because it gets conspiratorial, but Muslim Brotherhood, you know, is impacting our justice system and we're allowing them by not banning them. So we need to ban them in America. Well, that's good until that everybody needs to hear. Thank you for bringing that up. Let's talk about AQIM. You know, since the attacks, how are they, are they connected with Afghanistan?

Yeah. I mean, like I told you, you know, that that commander on the ground, the Koshini reported to was the AQIM head, right, for Libya, Libya. So AQIM carried our attacks on the ground on behalf of core al-Qaeda. What happened recently and since the last time I came here is a bunch of US dollars showed up with AQIM in Africa and I was like, well, where did this money come from? And I was told, oh, this money was given to the Taliban to fight ISIS. I'm like, what do you mean? This money was given to the Taliban to fight ISIS. I'm like, what do you mean? Like this money was given in Kabul? Yes, so money given by the US government in Kabul

ended up with AQIM in Africa. Just think about that. You are US dollars that we sent bundled on airplanes. So as you can imagine, that got me pissed. It's like, I've already complained about you funding our attackers and now like you're funding like basically like you're still funding them like a decade later and you're just basically

like doing it through Afghanistan. So then as you can imagine, we started looking into how it happened. Let's get into the money. This is the section I've been waiting on. Let's get into how the US is funding terrorist organizations. Perfect. Specifically, you want to start with Taliban?

Yeah, I mean, it'll all go connect. So this is just to be a long response probably, but I want to talk about the buckets of money first, if that makes sense. Yeah, please do. So there's three big buckets of money, and then we focused on the third. So the first bucket of money is, it was $7 billion, and this was just basically the bank reserves the government of Afghanistan owned when it fell.

Does that make sense? So it was offsite, right? It was here. So $7 billion was here. So, $7 billion. $7 billion. $7 billion. So basically, what the US government has done with the $7 billion is they split it in half and said, we're going to give 3.5 billion to the victims of 9-11. If anyone from victims of 9-11 have gotten any of this $3.5 billion, which is earning

insane interest monthly, please let me know because I've yet to meet someone besides Anyone from victims of 9-11 have gotten any of this $3.5 billion, which is earning insane interest monthly, please let me know because I've yet to meet someone besides lawyers who made any money. Someone needs to be on this $3.5 billion that the US siphoned off and figure out where it is, what's happening to it, and what people are doing with it. We didn't even look into that piece. The other $3.5 billion got taken and put in a Swiss bank account. This is so what we saw from... So in Libya there was 200 billion that went missing.

Okay? Completely different situation. 200 billion dollars of Gaddafi's money is like gone. So we get very concerned when something moves to Switzerland. So 3.5 billion moves to Switzerland and now this is given to the Taliban.. So 3.5 billion moves to Switzerland, and now this is given to the Taliban. So the 3.5 billion belongs to the Taliban government. It's overseen by four individuals in Switzerland, a State Department officer, which is crazy. I could see Department of Treasury, Commerce, put a real money person on it. So a State Department officer, a Swiss diplomat, and then two Afghans. One Afghan kind of makes sense.

He was basically the kind of the head of their finance department way back when, kind of when the Taliban first started taking over. He at least has a background. And then the last Taliban guy, it's very strange. I don't like to say rumors, but there might be some sort of nepotism that got them into that role. And the nepotism might involve family connected to our envoy. So we have an envoy to Afghanistan, Tom West, lots of issues involving him and his sympathies

towards the Taliban. Even after the fall of Afghanistan, he actually said, we will do anything at all costs to recognize the Taliban. So this is the broker we have, right? He'll do anything at all costs to recognize the Taliban? Are you kidding me, right? So this guy's already a problem. So these are the people, so it's just these four people overseeing this $3.5 billion.

It's already earned like over $180 million in interest. And then, so I've asked around to see, has a saliban taken any money from it? And then I get mixed responses. Some people say they haven't touched it. Some people say, well, we think they paid some, they owed Uzbekistan all this money for it's kind of like electricity bills. And they did pay off Uzbekistan. Some say came for that money, some say they don't. The interesting part in the Uzbekistan pieces, the Taliban is paying them off and clearing those debts. Because if you remember, it was like around June of 2021, before the fall of Kabul, the

US military actually told the pilots, hey, in case of emergency, fly the planes to Uzbekistan. That's why all those planes flew to Uzbekistan. US military texted and told Afghan pilots to do that. So all these planes, as you can imagine, are still sitting in Uzbekistan, and the Taliban want the planes back. So they're trying to make nice with Uzbekistan to give the planes back. Like Uzbekistan, don't give the planes back.

So anyway, so that's that. So anyway, 3.5 million Taliban has access to, okay? Billion. Billion, billion. Can I ask, who's the State Department official overseeing this? I don't know the name of the State Department person. Do you think it's a, I mean,

it's obviously a Taliban sympathizer, correct? Most likely. So, so that's that. I didn't really look at that money because obviously the 3.5 billion is not where the money came from AQIM, right? So, so then there's a second pocket of money, which everyone tells us is the 40 million a week that comes on the airplane and comes into Afghanistan. The interesting part is I was like, well, is it 40 million a week that comes on the airplane and comes into Afghanistan. The interesting part is I was like, well,

is it 40 million a week, right? Because you've got to ask these questions, because there's not been a lot of honesty. So the plane comes in weekly. The amount of money on the plane weekly is 43 million to 87 million. That's a big stretch if you tell me it has 40 million on the plane and the plane is arriving with $87 million. So let's just talk about the 40 million piece.

So the 40 million piece gets taken from the plane. It's brought to Afghanistan International Bank, which as you can imagine is making so much money off the exchange of this insane amount of money weekly And then it's supposed to then go all to humanitarian aid, right? It's obviously not happening that way 70% is getting siphoned off and going to Taliban only Causes and the majority of that is to the Taliban military. So the way the Taliban is doing it I mean they're doing the most basic thing like bribes, but that doesn't get you to 70%.

Then they've done this thing where every NGO that collects money from this pot of the 40 million has to have a Taliban representative basically on their board. So Taliban has complete control as a board member of where the money goes. The last part, which is the smartest thing they did, is, as you can imagine, there's a lot of these longstanding NGOs in Afghanistan the State Department has relationships with. Well, Taliban just went in and gutted them completely and put all Taliban in them. So State Department will say, oh, we've had a 12-year relationship with them. We have this record.

And they're not being honest and telling you, oh, well, the NGO we had a relationship with, none of them work there anymore, and it's all now just Taliban. So that's the key way they're siphoning this money. So I'm not gonna spend too much time on that bucket, but one thing I want Americans to understand is, in that bucket of the 40 million we send each week,

we are paying basically welfare to the Taliban martyrs' families. So every Taliban member who died during the war with us, the US government is paying them a stipend, the family. So our families of Americans who died there aren't getting squat, but we are paying Taliban families for basically dying while attacking us. Whoa. Yes, we're funding that. This is just enraging.

And you know, I asked a couple of people that question straight out, like, do you not think this is not ethically correct? And actually one person gave me an answer of, well, it'll stop them from joining ISIS. I'm like, the Taliban guy's already dead. Like they give you these bullshit excuses as to why they're funding like our enemies.

So. Well, I think that's a huge problem in America to begin with is making excuses. For a tear sympathizing and not paying attention to the fucking money. Okay, so that's bucket two. Bucket three is the most interesting, right? So bucket three is the ISIS dollars, right?

So nobody knows the amount of the ISIS dollars because there's all these classified annexes on the Doha deal that have never been released. Congress needs to release them because it's a time that we know what they say. But anyway, so the last, that other money on the airplane is the ISIS dollars. So guess what was done? What?

Well, what do you do? What do people do when they like to follow terrorists around? We followed the money. So the money is supposed to, all the money in the airplane is supposed to go to the Afghan International Bank and go to humanitarian aid. Well, a big chunk of the money comes off the airplane and goes other places and it has eight stops. So, you ready for them?

I'll just do the eight stops and then we'll talk through each of them because it'll be easier and maybe I'll remember it better. First stop, so this is the delivery weekly of US dollars. It goes to the prime minister of the Taliban. So his name is Mullah Mohammed Hassan Al-Khund. The second delivery goes to my favorite person, the deputy prime minister, Mullah Baraiter. The third delivery goes to the GDI, who I told you is Taliban CIA. It's run by Abdul Haq Wasique, if you remember.

He was one of the ones released for Bergdahl. So far, by the way, Mohammed, number one, Berader, and Wasique, these are all sanction designated terrorists. So all three of these deliveries are against US and international law, by the way. The next delivery goes to the Minister of Interior, which I told you already is led by Siraj-e-Din Haqqani, and that's where all the passports are being made for terrorists.

The fifth one, Siraj is double-dipping. Then they do a delivery to his house. So delivery number five goes to the home of Siraj Adin Haqqani, which should blow people's mind. This man sent 1,050 suicide bombers at U.S. and NATO troops. Over 1,000 suicide bombers were sent by him alone, and the U.S. is dropping cash off at his house weekly. Like, it's mind-blowing. Like, it's mind-blowing. Then, I'm almost losing track where we are. The next delivery goes to Haibatullah Akhundzada, who's the head of the Taliban. The next delivery goes to Saiful Adel, who is basically the head of Al-Qaeda's military

commission. And then the last delivery goes to three people, but I think we wait, because if I do that one, we're gonna have to talk about the first seven deliveries, if that's okay. Okay. So we'll come back. Let's start with number one.

Yeah, so number one, like I said, prime minister of the Taliban, designated. He's an interesting fella. He is basically... So he got put in his role because they thought, hey, he's longtime Mullah Omar supporter. He will stay in line with the Taliban. He's the right person for the job. The interesting part is publicly, he backs the head of Taliban on everything privately

because during those 20 years we were fighting, he got very, very wealthy of Taliban funds and did a lot of investments in Pakistan. So he has these natural leanings towards the Pakistanis because he has huge financial investments there. So he's kind of a little two-faced. He's playing the Taliban and playing Pakistan, right, So in case he needs the fallback location to Pakistan. And what a lot of people don't know is he's not going to be in his position long because Hypatula has been trying to move him out.

He's trying to put his chief of staff there. But he has cancer. And so he's having to go to Pakistan for cancer treatments, as you can imagine, because five million people fled Afghanistan. And who all fled? The educated, the good doctors. So he has to go to Pakistan to get proper medical attention because he can't get in Afghanistan. So that's basically our first delivery.

Second delivery, like I told you, goes to Mueller Breuder, who we already talked about, right? Went to Iran, made this deal with the Iranians and al-Qaeda to send al-Qaeda guys to attack US and Israeli troops. Huge violation of the Doha deal. Just the Iranians and al-Qaeda to send al-Qaeda guys to attack US and Israeli troops. Huge violation of the Doha deal. Just the Iran, just this Iran deal, huge violation. There are so many violations of this Doha deal we have with the Taliban and no one's negating it and keeps letting this money come. But even well before the fall of Kabul, there is a huge violation of the Doha deal. The Taliban detained an American name, Mark Freichs, right?

And basically what happened is we had a special envoy before West, who was just as bad as West, Ross Wilson. And he knew the Taliban detained Mark, and they downplayed it because they didn't want this fake peace deal to go through. So they're like, no, it's not the Taliban. It's people trying to ruin peace. And they downplayed it, downplayed it, downplayed it.

And then, of course, around the fall of Kabul is when we got marked back after the fall, sorry, and we released him for the number one narco trafficker in Afghanistan that the Taliban were under, right? So the Taliban had him the whole time. Basically, the State Department lied and downplayed it to keep the Doha deal going. So just to let you know this- Can you explain the Doha deal real quick so everybody understands what that is? Yeah.

Honestly, I don't even understand the Doha deal. But yeah, Doha deal was essentially the US brokered what they call a peace deal, but it's not. They brokered a deal call a peace deal, but it's not. They brokered a deal only with the Taliban for the future of Afghanistan. And in this deal, basically they made all these promises, and unfortunately the promises and a lot of these secret annexes,

but they made a bunch of promises to the Taliban, not to the allies we've been fighting for 20 years, that we would stop supplying the Afghan military, the Taliban in return would stop attacking us. There's all this back and forth. But essentially, we made all the promises that we were first going to abandon the Afghan military for the Taliban, and then we were going to leave completely. And then we gave the Taliban a bunch of concessions

and then the Taliban wasn't allowed to commit attacks against us and do all these types of things. Okay. Yeah, I thought it was something about bringing peace to Afghanistan for the next 20 plus years or something. Yeah, so what a lot of people don't realize, they call it a peace deal, that's just a lie, that's putting like paint on a pig.

This deal was only a negotiation with the Taliban. It did not include like parliament, it didn't include the Afghan military, it didn't include any kind of different sectarian groups in Afghanistan. It was the US and the Taliban. So just so everybody knows, this was only a deal with the enemy. It would never have brought peace to Afghanistan because we only dealt with the bad guys in Afghanistan. We didn't even include the good guys.

Then we screwed the good guys over by taking all supplies from them and let them fall. This was to give, basically, Afghanistan, which it ended up being being back to the Taliban, because somehow in our government, they think that the Afghans want the Taliban. It's a broken system. I saw it already forming. In 2010, they were doing reconciliation with the Taliban and the train had left the station, and this is kind of like the end result

of really bad assessment. I got another question before we move on to bucket three, but I don't know. So you had mentioned that on the plane, I believe you said there is Taliban money and ISIS money. Well, money to fight ISIS. So it's all Taliban money. Okay, money to fight.

Okay, I misunderstood that. Yes. Okay. No worries. That negates it. Don't start any rumors. All right, all right. No, thank you for clarifying. So all right, bucket ways. I negate. Don't start any rumors. All right. All right.

Now, thank you for clarifying. So all right. Bucket three. Okay. Yeah. So I got to remember who we talked about now. Yeah. GDI, right?

So we spent a lot of time on GDI. So I don't think we have to do much on GDI. But again, it's Taliban's Intel organization and obviously they're holding Ryan Corbett and secretly another American in a cell. Then the fourth one is the Ministry of Interior. We spent a lot of time on that. The interesting part though is, you know, when we talk about this threat to us, right, from these fake passports, but there's also a threat going on, as you can imagine, to our allies.

So I'm saying they capture 30,000, but then there's like 70,000 missing total. They kill 10,000. They're able to do this because they're using biometrics. Biometrics we left behind. Those biometrics sit in the Ministry of Interior building. So I want people to understand, like the talisman are like really targeting these people and that's how they're finding them and getting them.

What a lot of people don't understand is kind of within the first year after the fall, the talisman didn't really have the biometrics up and running. So they almost faked it, right? Like I once worked at a theme park and we had an annual pass and like you stuck it in the machine and then you

put your fingerprint on. But the fingerprint didn't work. It was just to dissuade people from handing their pass. So you thought it was fingerprint enabled. And so the Taliban, for kind of a year, faked, hey, our biometrics are working. Then they went to the Chinese and the Iranians, and they said, hey, help us fix.

We can't get this all working. So they got the system working, and then they got it deployed on mobile devices, right? So now it's at the border crossings. So I want Afghans to understand, if you went through a border crossing like six months after the fall and you were fine, don't assume you're fine now because they didn't have it working then even though they pretended it. Now they do. So they have the entire passport database working, the entire criminal database,

they have the entire pay system for the Ministry of Interior and the Afghan army, so our allies. They have the entire pay system for the NDS, which was the Afghan CIA, and they have the entire pay system for the Supreme Court. So this is what the Taliban is basically using these pay systems to then go find the allies. So they know they have the right guy because it tied back to their damn payroll. That's terrifying. So you can change your name, but it doesn't matter. They'll take your fingerprint and say,

oh, we know exactly who you are. It's so horrible. It's like the greatest, the biggest case of targeting I've ever seen. You know, and they're doing it excessively and they're allowed to and they're getting away with it. How long has this been happening? I mean, it's been running pretty good for,

you know, at least since we found Lusa. It's been, at least I've been running six months, like fully running. Obviously it took time as they put pieces into place, but they have access to all of it now. Damn. These guys don't have a chance. I know. I mean, we left them for the slaughter.

I mean, there's no other way to put it. Let's go on to the next one. Yeah, so then the next one is Siraj Adin Haqqani. I mean, we've spent a lot of time on Siraj Adin Haqqani, but there's so much on Sir-Din Haqqani. I mean, we've spent a lot of time on Siraj-e-Din Haqqani, but there's so much on Siraj-e-Din Haqqani. It's almost one, like I even want to explain more, right? I mean, obviously we explained he has this relationship with Boko Haram.

He has the Al-Qaeda and Libya relationship. He has the ISKP. He also, though, has the Pakistan relationship. So many, many years ago, when the US and the Pakistanis funded the Mujahideen, one of the people we funded was his father, Jalal-Hadid Haqqani. Their huge compound in Waziristan, like the United States built that, right? So the Haqqaniis are almost Pakistani, right? And so Siraj basically plays the Pakistan side of things,

too, because remember, he has this war with the Kandahari Taliban. I mean, I think it's either Siraj is gonna end up dead or Haibatullah is gonna end up dead, but you know, maybe not, maybe one just gets pushed out. So Siraj's plan is, worst comes to worst, I fall back to Waziristan, Pakistan supports me. So Siraj is playing some interesting games.

So one of the things he did recently to appease the Pakistanis is Pakistan, like I told you, has been complaining, hey, all these weapons are showing up, these M4s, M16s, Siraj, you gotta do something about this. So he's like, okay, and he does this weird pandering to them because they're like, take the weapons from TTP. So instead of taking the weapons from TTP, what they asked him to do, he did this weird

thing where, so the Haqqanis have a special operations unit called the Bajri unit. They recruited a bunch of Pakistani Waziristan people. They gave them money, cars, houses, they're like, join our unit. So they then became a part of the Badri unit. So what Siraj did to appease the Pakistanis, he just took the weapons from the Waziris in the Badri unit. He didn't go take weapons from TTP.

And so he goes, hey guys, I gotta take these weapons back. They belong to the government of Afghanistan. You're not Afghan, some weird thing. And then a lot of them were like, screw you, and then just went and joined TTP. So the weird part is Taliban does all these really kind of racist things within Taliban ranks. Even in the north, there was Taliban

who were kind of ethnically Uzbek or Tajik or something, the Taliban were like, I don't care if you've been Taliban for 20 years, we're still taking your land. You're not like a posh tune or whatever. So they do all these things. And so yeah, so I guess Siraj thinks he answered the mail on what Pakistan asked for, and I guess they're happy with it, but he just took weapons from his own people that weren't TTP.

So anyway, Siraj, he's just playing all the the sides and I want to talk about the piece he plays with the United States. So his piece with the United States is really interesting. He's playing this ploy of, hey, we can't give women's education because Haibatullah and the Kandahari Taliban are in the way. The head of the Ministry of Education is a Haqqani. Haqqanis can do whatever they want with the Ministry of Education. What they're focused on is these jihadi madrasas.

They have a $300 million budget to make all these jihadi madrasas, and they want to train like 500,000 students through these. That's their focus. Their focus is training this next generation of terrorists. They're leading the US on, and then they're playing the women card to get as much as they can from the US, and then they're pushing it off and pushing it off.

So finally, when they give some sort of crappy terrorist-led women education, it'll be enough and we'll be exhausted by it, and everyone will be fine and we'll tell the women of Afghanistan, just settle for that. So the US is playing that piece and Haqqani is playing that piece and they're using Haqqani's brother Anas Haqqani. He's kind of like the Jamie Lynn Spears to Siraj.

He ain't a rock star. But he's where we have that relationship. And then remember I told you we play the Kandahari side of the Taliban. And on that side of the Taliban, our relationships with Mullah Omar's son, Mullah Yaqub. But yeah, so Siraj has gotten really smart to play the women's education, and then our State Department's just falling for it. And then they're like, oh, Siraj is a better choice

between the two Taliban sides, because he believes in women's education. It's like, what? This is a suicide bomber guy. Like, none of these, there is no good Taliban, right? But our government like can't get over there. Like the Taliban sympathizers, they just need to like fire them and move them out. So like the rest of level headed people can start making these decisions. Moving on.

Yeah. So I think we're at Hibatullah. If I missed someone, sorry. So again, Hibatullah's head of the Taliban. Okay. So again, Haibatullah is head of the Taliban. So Haibatullah is making so much bank. So this is several million dollars. This is the guy double dipping. No, that was a prime minister. This is the supreme religious leader. This is the Mullah Omar.

So Haibatullah gets this from us. He gets a stipend from the Iranians. the Omar. Gotcha. Okay? So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so of the Chinese money. And so the Chinese money is $10 billion of investments, okay?

Ten billion. So the Chinese investments, as everyone knows, is kind of the minerals, the lithium, all the mines, whatnot. There's two really important pieces though. One is of the $10 million, $3 of every $10 gets allocated to Al-Qaeda. So they get 30%. And so Al-Qaeda. They get 30%. Al-Qaeda takes the money and then they keep some from themselves and then they give some to affiliates like the TTP and like IMU.

That's the Islamic movement of Uzbekistan. IMU is one of those groups. Remember when I told you all these terrorist groups are sending terrorists to the border? It was Al-Qaeda. This is last time, Afghan Taliban, ISIS. IMU is another one of the terrorist groups sending terrorists to our southern border, just FYI. So anyway, so yeah, so just think about that.

Three of every $10, so three billion of that 10 billion went to straight to Al-Qaeda off the top. So then the other part that totally gets forgotten, everyone's like, yeah, they want the lithium, blah, blah, blah. There's a whole different thing China cares about. China has made a deal with the Iranians. And the deal is, basically, if the US comes to war with us in China and shit hits the fan, we're

going to get oil from you. And so Afghanistan is actually going to be used as the land route for the Iranian oil because China's worried that US are going to cut off the oil supplies that come from like South America or Africa. So now they're going to have a land route for the oil. So that's really key to understand. China has a bigger thing that I want to mine. And I think people are losing thought of this and then just as a funny thing

China decided bog room is one of the more key strategic Bases in the world and now Bagram is where the Chinese PMCs are based So can I do India let's do it I hate do I hate people who do sidebars, but the India piece is so fascinating and I kind of tripped over it. So I was trying to find the US money, but then there's all these other pots of money, right? And so then you're kind of like, okay, what's happening with them?

So India does this thing where they give a little bit of money. So I told you how there's Moolayaku, Moola Omar's son. So he has another brother, Dawood. And India kind of works with Dawood They give a little bit of money. I told you how there's Mullah Yaqoo, Mullah Omar's son. He has another brother, Dawood. India works with Dawood and they give him money. It's just like the little things they do with the Baluchis, like the Liberation Army, BLA, and TTP.

It's like the things they do to poke Pakistan, you know that crap. They have that going on, which I knew about. So then I hear, hey, they gave $10 million to Mula Yaqub, so they went up a step. And then, so it's like, well, what's this 10 million for? What are they doing with it? The 10 million went to fund Gecko Base. You remember Gecko Base?

I mean, I've never worked in Gecko Base. And there's several times. Yeah, so you know Gecko Base. I know some of your audience does. So you know GECOBASE. I know some of your audience does. So GECOBASE now is the location where Haybatullah, so the Supreme Leader of the Taliban, that is where his personal security is. So then it's like, okay, the Indian government, or probably their intel service, is funding

Haybatullah's personal security. Now, isn't that weird? So of course I'm like, this makes no sense. And it's not even tons of money compared to what we're putting in. So I have all these questions, okay? So it's like, what is India getting? And also really what's the Taliban getting?

Because they don't give a damn about $10 million. So this is gonna sound like the craziest thing ever, okay? But what the Indians and the Taliban are doing, I kid you not, is India is using Taliban's network to assassinate Kashmiri militants in Pakistan. Are you serious? I swear to God. Yeah, I know this leaves so many questions.

But yes, so they've been doing all these hits. So they've been killing all these Kashmiri militants. They've been killing a bunch of Sikh militants. I don't know anything about the Sikh part. So if anyone's interested in that part, I've only looked at the Kashmiri piece. So yeah, so they're using, they say the Taliban networks and then they're doing these assassinations. They're happening all over Pakistan, like in Lahore and Karachi and et cetera. So then I was like, well, still, this is really risky for the Taliban if people find out,

you know, like it seems like it could rock the boat, like they're using their networks. Plus, are the Taliban networks that good to take out senior, crash Mary people? Maybe, maybe they're not. So the interesting part is now my theory is India gains what they're gaining, right? These are terrorists that they have, some of these guys they've wanted for 30 years. I went through a list of 18 of them. So the interesting part is I don't know if they're all dead. Some of them Pakistan could have heard India's come to kill them and they might have them in a safe house.

So there's 18 targeted, okay? And I went through all 18 to make sure I knew who they were, great, because I've worked Kashmir forever, and to see what group they were. And so I went through all of them and they were the groups you can imagine, Lashkar-e-Taiba, Jaish-e-Muhammad, Hezbollah Mujahideen, the last one was Al-Badr Mujahideen.

Not one of the 18 were from Harikot al-Muhammad, Hezbollah Mujahideen, the last one was al-Badr Mujahideen. Not one of the 18 were from Harakat al-Mujahideen. This matters because Haybatullah, when he was young, he got his religious teaching from a guy named Fahzul al-Rakhman Khalil. He founded HUM. They're still close friends, and some of the money that goes to Haibatullah from us, he gives to whom in their madrasas. So I have a theory, so the assassinations

are happening, Taliban supporting, I have a theory Taliban and whom have decided to work together to use India because they want it anyway, and they're bumping off the Kashmiri militants who are aligned to Pakistan. The problem with the Kashmiri militants and why the Taliban can't use them, as you can imagine, is they're Pakistani nationalists. There's a FATA war plan, but in the future there's the Kashmir war plan. But there's no potential of doing the Kashmir war plan anytime soon, because all the leaders of the Kashmiri militant groups are aligned with Pakistan and Pakistan's military

and Pakistan's ISI. Now, if you start taking out the old guard of leaders, which it seems like the Taliban and Hume might be doing with India, but India doesn't actually understand that's what's happening and why they're invested in it. You take out the old guard, all the new guard of Kashmiri militants, after they trained in Kashmir, guess who they fought? In Afghanistan with the Taliban against Americans.

The new generation of Kashmiri militants are more aligned to the Taliban and Al-Qaeda than they are to the PAK military. So they're creating this whole new Kashmir landscape that nobody has thought about and nobody's ready for, but it's gonna be ready in the future when the war plan moves to Kashmir. The Taliban and Al-Qaeda have thought this far ahead. Wow.

Is that crazy? These guys are really strategic. Yeah, like their plans are big, but their plans are long too. And it's, we have people that work on something for a year, like how, even it's China, right? We have someone who works on account for a year or two. China's thinking in like a hundred years,

like we aren't prepared to like deal with the threats of the way they're doing it. So, so that's the end of the Taliban parts of the deliveries and then we'll move to Al-Qaeda. And so every single delivery, except, you know, one was a building, every single one of those deliveries, every one of those terrorists are sanctioned, and every delivery is against US law. So then we move to al-Qaeda. So the next delivery, like I told you, was Saif al-Adl.

He runs the Military Commission of Al-Qaeda. He's also the de facto head of Al-Qaeda external operations, so he's planning all the attacks against us. And he's who the US government lies and says is the head of Al-Qaeda. So even if they were right, which they're not, they're also still paying weekly the head of Al-Qaeda, which is a problem. Okay. You ready for... Do you have any clue who the last three are at the last delivery?

It lied to me. Okay, they are the top three of Al Qaeda. Any chance you know who the top three of Al Qaeda are? Well, you know Hamza, I told you Hamza. So okay, number one is Hamza bin Laden, designated terrorist, they won't admit he's alive. Number two is Saad bin Laden, the deputy leader of Al Qaeda is Saza bin Laden, designated terrorist. They won't admit he's alive. Number two is Saad bin Laden. The deputy leader of al-Qaeda is Saad bin Laden. So the top two heads of al-Qaeda are bin Ladens.

Do you have any idea the last name of the third guy? Bin Laden. Yes. The number three of the Taliban is Abdullah bin Laden. He's not even designated. So of every terrorist we delivered money to, he's the only one we legally can give money to. So yeah, please designate Abdullah Bin Laden as a terrorist.

So yeah, so Hamza's running it, his deputy's Saad, and then Abdullah's running kind of what would be if you were the COO of an organization. So he's running the business operations side of Al-Qaeda, and then Saif Al-Adl is running the like fighting operations side So those are the four senior leaders of Al Qaeda and all four The US money gets delivered to US dollars cash from our airplane deliveries Why does why is the US been lying about?

Hazzam's death. Yeah, so basically with Hamza, so- Hamza, excuse me. Oh, no worries. I don't know why they're still lying, okay? And I'm going to be really honest, the people trying to get this information out, like bad things happen to them. So long story short, the person who made sure the information got out in September 2021 that Hamza is alive. He has been captured, tortured, and killed by the Taliban.

So there's good people trying to get this information out on the Taliban and they're dying for it. And we're still lying about who's heading the Taliban while people are dying trying to tell us. This is a huge problem. So I'm going to go back in time to when Hamza was reportedly dead, because I think that timeframe is more important. So I'm going to do a lot of caveats on this.

So in 2019, Hamza bin Laden was reported as dead, in a strike. Five months later, reportedly, Afghan officials found out he didn't actually actually die and they provided a picture to the US government Where that picture went who it was shared with at the time? I don't know the one thing I do know is like I told you when I stopped working Taliban in 2010 it was like the train left the station Taliban reconciliation is happening. The State Department is going to make it happen at all costs. All the Intel collect was focused on reconciliation, not the terrorist activities, et cetera, et cetera.

They were going to make reconciliation happen. There's one thing that can stop a peace deal or whatever, and that would be, as you can imagine, if it benefits the Bin Ladens, right? It doesn't even matter if it was Trump. Obviously, it's Trump who did the deal. But any leader who shows up at 9-11, you know, after the attacks is never going to make a deal

with al-Qaeda, right? So there's something about Hamza bin Laden that he was better dead. So I hate saying this because I honestly don't think the president knew, and it's going to be a big problem. So Hamza bin Laden has four wives, okay? Everybody knows the second wife. It was like a videoed, I told you it was Abu Mohammed al-Masri, a member who's now the head of Al-Qaeda in Africa. He had a first wife he married just before her.

Do you have any clue who whose daughter she might be? I don't. Mullah Omar's. No way. So Hamza bin Laden is married to the wife of Mullah Omar. They've been married since he was 17 years old, five years after 9-11. So, any peace deal with the Taliban was also a peace deal with the Bin Laden's because they are married to each other.

And it's worse. So Hamza does have a son a lot of people know about named Osama bin Laden. Everyone assumes Osama bin Laden is Miriam's son, so is Abu Musab's grandson, I mean Abu Muhammad's grandson. Osama bin Laden, the next heir to Al-Qaeda, is the grandson of Osama bin Laden and Mullah Omar. So our peace deal with the Taliban was with the bin Laden's. There was no way to give all these things to the Taliban and all this cast to the Taliban

and it not also go to the bin Laden's because they're the same family. They don't just work together. Can you go just for the audience, can you refresh our memories on Abdullah Omar? Yeah, so Mullah Omar. Yeah, Mullah Omar. Very simple. You know how we talked about the first delivery, the the Mohammed awesome guy, the one has cancer. Six of these men

way back in the day in the 90s, got together, they created the Taliban. The Taliban at the time was created for a reason that almost makes sense. So after the Mujahideen era and the Soviet war ended, like Afghanistan was just this criminal landscape, right? Nobody was in charge. There was no law and order.

There was so much crime. And so these six men were like, we're going to create this thing, the Taliban, and we're going to bring law and order and safety and protect women. They love saying protect women because you just want to lock them up. And so they created the Taliban. So Mullah Omar created the Taliban, so Mullah Omar created the Taliban, and then obviously Mullah Omar is the person who then gave Osama Bin Laden refuge in Afghanistan, and then of course that's where the 9-11 got planned out of Afghanistan.

Thank you. Thank you. Man, it's just keeps getting worse and worse. Yeah, tell your president the truth. I think that should be rule one. Yeah, no kidding, right? So of the three Bin Ladens that are in power, I guess is what we call it, right?

What do you think their plans are for the US? Or just in general? I know. Well, so they do want to do something in retaliation for their father. I don't know what that is exactly. And then remember, they are intimately involved in the Syria and Iraq deployments and then the Fattah war plan. That's them too. So, you know, that's the Bin Laden's, that's the Taliban,

that's Al-Qaeda in the Indo-subcontinent, and then remember I told you that political party in Pakistan. So they're all in the same plan and they're all on the same page. Now, the sons want to do some of the things their father did not do, right? So they want to create, as we've kind of discussed,

a larger caliphate. They want to create an actual base in Africa and be successful with it, because Osama wanted to create a base in Libya, right? That's why that started, and the base started in Benghazi. That was Osama bin Laden's plan. A lot of people are confused by that. So they want to do the same,

and that's why we think it's, Mali is this next al-Qaeda base they're trying to do. And then their father had this view of this Islamic army that we've talked about, you know, this idea of, hey, it's us against the West, it's Islamists' views against everyone, even Muslims who aren't extreme, right? We want an army and we want a united front

that is like the terrorists. And we don't care if you're Sunni, if you're Shia, right? We want to bring them together. We even want to bring ISIS in. So they've slowly been working on the relationships to form this Islamic army. Bin Laden tried this in Benghazi, and it took a couple years to get running, so it was after he died, but it ended up being the Benghazi Revolutionary Shura Council is what it was called.

They made a couple other branches, and then they tried again, and they did call it what they wanted to, the Islamic Army, and it was started in eastern Libya. The interesting part, it was the same. And then as things happened, the groups didn't stay together. It became ISIS. Al-Qaeda fought it. It became a nightmare. And then to be really interesting

is the guys leading it have disappeared. Libyan National Army didn't kill them. So I don't even know. So yeah, the Islamic Army guys, some darn... They're in the wind. I don't even know where they are. And potentially, they weren't attackers, so I'm not following them, but potentially they could be in Afghanistan.

But yeah, so there is this goal of this giant Islamic Army of like-minded terrorist groups. But that's a lot longer out. Do you think there's a big event planned, like September 11th? I think that whatever is the plan for the... I do think there's some smaller things, like the embassy things. I think whatever the bin Laden's want for the father is probably going to be, they're gonna have to elevate it to that level, at least attempt to.

Yeah, yeah. But they already have a win, right? I mean, they got Afghanistan. I know they want more for their father, right? But remember, the people who've come out over the last 20 years are the Bin Ladins. Yeah. They have more fighters now, they have more money now, But remember, the people who've come out of the last 20 years are the Bin Laden's. They have more fighters now.

They have more money now. They got a whole damn country. And the US ignores them and won't even admit that they're there, that they're resurging. They won't even say who the leader is. We basically cover for their activities too. And we're even lying that they're the ones attacking us some of the times in Iraq and Syria. Isn't that crazy? Just like they lied about Al-Qaeda and Mugazi.

Some of these attacks in Iraq and Syria, they're like, oh, it's Iranian proxies. No, some of those attacks are Al-Qaeda. You need to say if they're Al-Qaeda, that they're Al-Qaeda. Our parents need to know this. I just don't understand why they're covering for them, why we're financing them. I don't, do you have any insight into that?

Why, why are we doing this? The State Department can barely run a embassy and we have a running these big things. I have no idea. I think there's some terrorist sympathizing problem. I think there's incompetence. I think people are right that a lot of this money moving around becomes a little bit of

money laundering and people make money off of it. And that is an incentive as people care about money more than they care about their country, right? Sadly. It's a real shame. And people care about their politics a lot more than country. And that's the problem we're in right now, right? No one will just be honest and say, this is wrong, fix it.

It's like, well, if my party's doing it, maybe it's wrong, but at least it's my party, and that's better than someone else doing it, right? It's insane. That's what I was alluding to earlier when I was saying that nobody's, I think I was talking about nobody taking accountability and making excuses for their political party,

their favorite party, their favorite candidate, whatever it is. And it's, you know, it really is, I mean, there's, we're in a very divided country, but it's both, it's both parties that are doing this. Exactly, yeah. They're benefiting by dividing us, and then we are participating in it every time we allude to it, right? Yeah, they're benefiting by dividing us and then we are participating in it every time we allude to it, right?

Or die in a hill for one of these losers who are representing us. It's a real shame. How powerful is Al-Qaeda now in Afghanistan versus pre-9-11? So Al-Qaeda is definitely more powerful now than 911. Is Al-Qaeda more powerful now than Al-Qaeda in Iraq was? I don't know, right?

Because Al-Qaeda in Iraq got very powerful. And that was a huge resurgence. But they're going to surpass that, right? That's their goal. So Al-Qaeda will be the biggest. It's bigger big, it's bigger than it was in 9-11. It will be the biggest it's ever been in the next year. I have no doubts. Man, I don't know what to say.

You've dropped so much information here. It's like drinking from the fire hose and it's alarming. It's a raging. It, I'm scared for our country. I'm very scared for our country. I just find it frustrating that, you know, we're the GWOT generation, right?

We have people from our generation in Congress and they're gonna show up to work tomorrow, right? And be fine that this money's going to the Taliban. Like, what the hell are they doing? Like, do your damn jobs. Like, do the right thing. Like, you're an American. Stand up for American ideals.

Like, we need to get back to being American. And it has to be our generation at this point, because our generation are becoming the leaders. You're the one that fought in these wars. You know exactly what we're talking about. You know exactly the people we're talking about, and you know exactly what funding them is going to do. Yeah, yeah.

We'll see if that happens. More and more, more and more are coming out though, you know, and are starting campaigns and are trying to get into government. It's, unfortunately, you see a lot of them when they get in there and they get sucked right into the cesspool and I've seen it firsthand. And it's a real shame.

We have a system where basically the person who can earn the most money for their party gets elected. So now they're in a position and they have so many IOUs and it's just an unhealthy situation, right? Really, I do think there should be some sort of campaign finance laws because you never didn't get the best person if you just get the best salesman or the best fundraiser, the best guy that'll like pat your back. Yeah, very true.

Very true. But, well, Sarah, before we wrap it up, is there anything else? Anything else at all? Dude, there's so much in my head. If you want to get me going, we could go another four hours. But I don't know if either was heavy energy. Man, I can't take anymore. But uh, and um, but well, hey, I just want to say thank you for coming back and like I said, you are the most requested repeat guest we've ever had and I I know I'm gonna see you again and I

Can't I mean it sounds weird to say this I can't wait to see what you put you drop next time But gosh, I don't want to drop anything. I want people to go after these terrorists finally so I can retire. I see what you drop next time. Oh gosh. I don't wanna drop anything. I want people to go after these terrorists finally so I can retire. I'm getting old too. What is the number one request? Here's a question. Sure.

This is a great one to end with. What is the number one request from our allies? The resistance, what do they want the US to do? Yeah, you know it's interesting. I thought when I went to ask them, so obviously I had to reach out to a lot of people to understand the money thing. And so I asked all of them this question, right?

And I thought a lot of them would say air support or something like that. And every single person I talked to in the resistance all had the exact same answer. Stop the US money going to the Taliban, period. And we should just stop it anyway. Ethically, we are funding Al-Qaeda, money going to the Taliban, period. We should just stop it anyway. Ethically, we are funding Al-Qaeda, we are funding the Taliban, we are funding TTP, we are funding people who have Americans stuck in basements.

This is insanity. Besides what they're doing to the women, we haven't even talked about the women, but the Afghan women are living in a prison. They have zero rights. We promise them you're going to be doctors and lawyers. When Afghanistan fell, 27% of their parliament was women. United States is 29%. They got to a point in 20 years equal par to us, right?

And then we are doing nothing for their women, just like we did nothing for the women of Iran. And it's, I just, it's just, it's against all human rights thoughts, like you could even imagine. Yeah, yeah. Well, Sarah, like I said, I really appreciate it. It's an honor to have you here again. And, and one more time for the audience, check out the Sean Ryan Show newsletter.

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