Shawn Ryan Show - #248 Jon Delaney - Who's Protecting Jeffrey Epstein's Secrets?

Episode Date: October 27, 2025

Jon Delaney is the founder and leader of Real News No Bullshit (RNNBS), an independent news platform launched in January 2021 to provide unbiased, agenda-free coverage of domestic and global events. Fed up with mainstream media's perceived biases, Delaney created RNNBS as a digital outlet on Instagram and other platforms, focusing on straightforward reporting without sensationalism. The platform has grown rapidly, offering news summaries, and video content on topics like politics, international affairs, and current events. Delaney avoids the spotlight and his work emphasizes transparency and truth-seeking in journalism. As the primary operator, he oversees content creation and has expanded RNNBS to include backups and related channels for resilience against platform restrictions. Delaney advocates for independent media, press freedom, and empowering audiences to form their own opinions based on facts, often critiquing established news sources for "bullshit" narratives. Shawn Ryan Show Sponsors: https://tryarmra.com/srs https://shawnlikesgold.com https://ROKA.com – USE CODE SRS https://shopify.com/srs https://simplisafe.com/srs https://tractorsupply.com/hometownheroes https://USCCA.com/srs ⁠https://americanfinancing.net/srs⁠ NMLS 182334, nmlsconsumeraccess.org. APR for rates in the 5s start at 6.327% for well qualified borrowers. Call 866-781-8900, for details about credit costs and terms. Jon Delaney Links: LinkTree - https://linktr.ee/realnewsnotbs Website - https://www.realnewsnotbs.com IG - https://www.instagram.com/realnewsnobullshit X - https://x.com/NewsNotBs Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Dude, I fucking love your page. I appreciate it. I don't know how I found. I think, I think, how long have you guys been around? We started up in 2020, excuse me, 2021, right before the Biden administration came in. And I kind of got into it, I tell you, I, I, do you want to get it right into it? No, I was going to say, we'll get into the, we'll get into why you started it. But I think I found you, I had to be like right when it first came out

because I was going to say I found you during COVID. I think I found you during COVID. Really? Yeah, because I was looking, embarrassingly, I've bought off on the whole narrative for about the first two months. Okay. I was the, I was out there spraying the packages with Lysol and doing all that. And then I talked to some buddies of mine that were down in Florida,

some fellow seals. we did a Zoom call and they started so I didn't have any I didn't have any cable TV I still don't because I've always thought well not always but I thought the news is completely full of shit yeah for several years now and but anyways so I so I never we just don't have cable because I'm like it's fucking worthless right and but we did have air TV so when COVID came out I was I had air TV, but the only news station we got was ABC. So you know what that was? You know what that was?

Yeah. We're all going to die. Everybody in Italy is dead. The hospital beds are completely... COVID debt tracker number. And then I talked to my buddies, and I'm like, I think I may be off on this. Yeah. And anyway, so I started looking for different sources on social,

and yours must have popped up. And dude, I love what you guys are doing. I appreciate it. It just seems like straight facts, no spin, no opinions, no analysis, just this is what's happening and that's it. Right. And here's what this guy's saying. Yeah. Here's what that guy's saying.

Yeah. Figure it out. I love it, man. So for anybody listening, real news, no bullshit on Instagram is where I follow you. But are you on you on you on you on? x and everything else we're on x kind of you know x is full of a bunch of bots yeah all that shit so we've kind of geared away from it i also feel like x is a little bit too loud there's too much shit on there um we're gonna jump back on it because i i feel like i haven't found anyone on

x that's just keeping it real mm-hmm um but just that and then we have a website that's pretty much it right on it's right on thing well let me give you an introduction here. Okay, man. John Delaney. Founder of Real News, No Bullshit, a platform dedicated to delivering unfiltered news on global events. Self-made entrepreneur who started young, turning ventures like selling fake IDs in high school and other hustles into life lessons. An old soul who grew up fascinated by the news while your peers were into cartoons, a truth seeker who transformed a personal Instagram account into a news page, now employing others in folk. focusing on real stories amid media noise.

Not a decorated veteran or official, but a man with scars from life's mistakes, exploring faith through daily Bible reading and committed to staying on a path guided by a higher purpose. Yeah. How'd that? How's that? It was good. Right on, right on.

But, all right, John. So a couple of things to get through before we get started. Dude, I've heard about these. Vigilance Elite Gummy Bears. Yeah, man. Made in the USA. Legal in all 50 states. Not that you have to worry about that in California.

And then we just came out. We've released these a couple years ago and then didn't do it again until this year. But I think you're going to give these. Vigilance Elite s'm spore bites. Those things are like worse than crack. Really? Okay, man. But, well, I have a gift for you, Sean.

Dude, I love gifts. It's an interesting story before I give this to you. I told you I'm trying to figure out what I believe in right now. Really? What do you mean by that? I don't know. I grew up Catholic, but I just... You're talking like God, Jesus, what's it all about?

I haven't figured it out, but I'm trying to. And a good friend of mine that you could envision. He's like the Dan Blasarian of my friends, right? Told me recently, his name's Dom, that he's reading the Bible every day. And that shocked me because this is not the guy I would expect to be reading the Bible. And I said, shit, if he's reading the Bible, then what the hell am I doing with my life? Right. So I recently picked up a Bible, and I'm reading a page a day.

Good for you, man. And my goal is I want to go after the Bible. I want to read everything. I don't know. But I don't subscribe to the idea that we're just all here because of a big explosion. There's got to be something. There's some sort of creator. And I don't, I want to find something that I believe in.

But with that being said, I know you're a man of faith. So I have this gift for you. That is, it's a piece of American history. That is a Bible that was pulled out of a burning church during the Civil War in 1864. Pulled out of a church during the Civil War in 1864. Burning church. So the story behind that Bible goes is that in 1864, there was a church in Jacksonville, Florida. And at the time, a bunch of union soldiers were sent up from South Carolina to go to Jacksonville.

and to basically get control of Jacksonville. And they called the town at the time was a copperhead town, which means there were rebel sympathizers. So their job was to go in there and basically get everything under control. And the church got burned down. And the interesting thing is nobody knows who burned the church.

They both blame each other. You got the rebel sympathizer said the union soldiers did it. The union soldiers said, the rebel sympathizers did it, but the reality is the church burned. And for what I think we're going to talk about today, it kind of fits well because I think both sides are blaming each other for everything. That sounds familiar, doesn't it? It does.

So, you know, I was going to get you like an antique gun or something. I said, you know, Sean has too many guns. And I know you're a man of faith, and hopefully that should be in a museum, I think. Dude, this is, thank you, man. I appreciate it. This is awesome. So you're into it. You're reading a page a day.

How many, how long are you? You know, I'll be honest with you. I was slacking a little bit. I finished, shit, I think I'm maybe 25 pages in, but there were a couple days I didn't get to it, and I was making excuses for myself, and then somebody told me you can listen to it on audio. Yeah.

So now there's no excuse. So I go through two to three chapters a day. I restarted because I didn't know there's a difference between, is it NVE and or NVD? I'm no expert, man. There's different forms. I know there's a lot of different versions of the Bible. And you have to understand, like, I'm starting this. I don't know shit.

So I'm reading some King James version where they talk very eloquently. Yeah. And it's kind of hard for me to, you know, what does this work? why you know what does it mean give it to me in a more digestible dude i got something for you hold on all right so i'm not ashamed i'm not ashamed to say that dude i don't understand the bible like yeah i just it just it doesn't sing i'll read a page five times in a row and i'm like i have no idea what this means yeah i have to have somebody to explain it so this book was given to me i've sent this to like

anybody who's a really good friend of mine who is trying to trying to figure it all out so here this is called the jesus calling and it's only about what jesus said you read one little less than a paragraph in the morning when you wake up i like to read it before i go to bed and it's just just give it a shot it's not a big lift it makes sense it's not it's not hard to understand if a dummy like me can can yeah can get it just see how it how it makes you feel okay and uh just see how it makes you feel and makes me feel really good a lot of times when i read it i feel like it's like it's like

fucking talking to me like really yeah like it's a direct reflection of what i just went through in the day. That's why I like to read it at night where I go to bed. But yeah, very plain terms, easy to understand, low lift, and give it a shot. Yeah, just see how it makes you feel. Dude, I'm

happy for you. That's awesome. It's something different and I, you know, I hope I can figure something out. Yeah, we're all on this path. Just lean in, man. Try it. But, all right.

So I got a Patreon account. It's a subscription account. It's quite the community. They've been with us here since the beginning. And really, they're the reason that I get to sit here with you today. And so one of the things we do is we offer them the opportunity to ask each and every guest a question. This is from Kirk Powers. From your experience in analyzing different media sources and their content over the last five years, what percentage of the modern day media output resembles propaganda instead of factual news coverage. I don't.

What was that, Kurt? That was a packed question. Two ways I want to go about this. If we look at, let's look at international media. A lot of them are either state-controlled, state-affiliated, state-owned, state-funded, right? So you would naturally assume that those outlets have some sort of agenda or narrative that they're pushing that would push what someone might define as propaganda. But the thing that's interesting is how do you define propaganda? Right.

Very interesting because I went to Ukraine and I did a documentary about the war in Ukraine and I wanted to talk to both sides. Russians and Ukrainians. But at the time, there were a lot of Russians, a lot of Americans in Russia that were getting arrested, journalists. So it makes it hard for me to go to Russia. But we did some remote interviews. And one of the interviews we did was with a doctor who worked for the Wagner group. And this is the first time, it kind of ties together to what he was asking. this is the first time I ever got my dose of holy shit like this is what propaganda looks like he said just come to Moscow

instead of doing this virtual bullshit interview because it's hard to hear you you know this just come to Moscow after Ukraine I said the fuck we're not going to Russia you guys are locking up journalists left and right and calling them spies his response I thought he I was so

So shocked. He said, what are you talking about? What do you mean? What am I talking about? He's like, we're not locking up American journalists. I said, it's all over the news. What are you talking about? We've arrested two and they were spies. Haven't you seen all the stories? And they caught them red-handed and there's videos and this and that. And I'm like, what the hell is this guy? I know the accusation that they were spies, but what are you talking about? Yeah, our media, our news, they've shown all this and that. he said and this still fucks with me to this day he said i'm more concerned for you when you go home and i said what do you mean by that he's like don't you see what they're doing to you guys and your people they're arresting uh at the time president trump was being um he had all that criminal cases against him so he they said look what they're doing to your politicians look what they're doing to, I believe at the time, was it Matt Taibi that was getting audited by the IRS. It was like, and it was very questionable how he got the audit or they were looking for him or whatever. So all these things. And this guy's throwing me all this information. And I'm like,

wow, you live in a totally different reality. And it made me, like, after talking with him for so long, it made me start to question, am I being? being lied to because the propaganda is so good. So going back to his question, I would say, what's your definition of propaganda? What's your definition of propaganda? Just things that are outright bullshit that they're pushing. So for one example, when the United States carried out some strikes in Yemen, I believe It was when Trump came into office a couple months in.

There was accounts on X posting AI-generated images of them shooting down an F-35. That was the size of straight-up bullshit. I mean, they're generated images, and they're pushing this out, and they've got bots amping it up. And I think something like that is easily definable as propaganda because it's clearly not true. and they're pushing it to create some sort of a narrative. But it's hard because, you know, I absorb a lot of news. I would say propaganda is any form of manipulation of the truth to include lying. And that also includes withholding truth.

You know, so all the nuanced shit that we see in the media today, and they, you know, they paint out these, they paint it out to one side, and yes, there are facts involved in what they're reporting, but, however, there are a lot of facts that they leave out, that paint an entirely different picture. And that's for both sides. That's for the entire world. Right. And that's the problem. You know, I look at journalism as you're painting a picture to somebody. And depending on where you get that picture from, it might be a little heavier on the red paint. or the blue paint, or it might not even have that color. And so it's hard to really narrow down how much of it is bullshit and how much of it isn't because everybody has a different story. Like right now, for example, I was just talking to Jeff about this. We had an article the other day about Secretary Hagseth is talking about giving Ukraine new firepower, quote unquote.

firepower and the big talk right now is that we might be giving them tomahawks um don't know how much you've been following that but prior when biden was in office they were saying if you give medium range missiles not even tomahawks uh that could lead us down to to the path of nuclear war and we're now at tomahawks possibly so our media right now is talking about is that there's the possibility we might be doing it, but what's really interesting, and they're saying they would do it because Putin's refusing to stop the war. But what I like to do is, and I want to say, well, what's Russia saying? So, and anybody can do this, and I encourage everybody to, because you should be open to everything. And Russia is painting this narrative right now, whether true or not,

I don't want to give my direct opinion on it, but that Trump has to be. switched on Russia and is now going towards Ukraine, but the reason why is because, and it's very convincing that they're telling their people, is the U.S. doesn't want the war to end because the military industrial complex is making shitloads of money off the war in Ukraine. So that's why Trump has flipped and is willing to escalate the war and continue it to go on. And that's, I was telling some, just some people, Americans about this. And they said, it kind of sounds believable. And that's what they're telling their people.

So the thing is, is you're going to get a different side of everything, no matter where you look, and no one's ever really going to give you the full picture. Yeah. And it's hard to zero in on what's true and what's not. You know, you might say one thing, and the guy behind you has a different story. Oh, yeah. I'm very familiar with it. It's tough. I mean, so if you had to put a, you know what I mean, a percentage,

what percentage of the media do you think is full-out propaganda? It's hard to give a percentage. Would you say it's the overwhelming amount? Yeah, it is because it's, everybody has a different interest. Everybody has a different position. I mean, to be honest with you, naturally I'm an American citizen I would naturally have

interests that I would want my country to do well because I live here I would be lying to you if I said that I'm not somewhat pro-American in a way yeah right well that's good to hear yeah but you know what I mean so take take somebody else maybe some a Russian journalist or a Chinese journalist

an Iranian journalist an Israeli journalist they all have I mean they have an invested in to make sure, you know, you have a family. Things have to go well for you. So, and that's the hard part. It's trying to figure out what's true and what's not. And I take a different approach.

I don't think I should be telling you what the truth is. I think I should just give it to you. Say, here's everything, here's the entire picture. Here's all the narratives. Here's all the color. Now, what do you believe? And that's what I think is last. That's what I think is lacking in the media.

Like what I do, Sean, I'm not a genius. You know, I was the dumbest kid in my class growing up. 1.7 GPA struggling through high school. I was an idiot in middle school. I've only read one book in my entire life. Are you serious? One book. What was it?

The art of not giving a fuck. Well, now you're reading the Bible. That too. listening to it. You see, so it's, uh, it's not hard to do this. It's just, it's for some reason. I think a lot of people feel like they have to give their opinion or their, their stance. And I'm not going to sit here and tell you I'm an expert. Yeah. But I'm a good listener. What, what was the motivation that got you to start real news, no both? It's a couple things. I, um, so I started posting the news,

I had an Instagram at the time. They call it a, so it's funny. There's Instagrams, and then there's Finstas. Have you heard of that? No. Finsta's like what they call, it's like a fun Instagram. So you're a little more raw, I guess, with your friends. So I started posting to my friends the news because I recognize that none of them were paying

attention to what was going on in the world. They were kind of like clueless. So I started just saying, hey guys, you should be paying attention to this. Like, this is crazy. Like, look at this, look at that. And I started building. And friends started referring friends. So I had more friends start following me because they were interested in the news and they wanted it in a digestible, easy to read. Here's what's happening. Here's what this guy said. And here's what that guy said. And it slowly started building on my personal Instagram. And over time, it became more than just friends joining me.

It was friends plus now their parents. And I'm like, okay, should I got something? But what did it for me, and I want to be clear, like, I'm not giving an opinion about what happened this day. but the day January 6th happened I cried um because I saw that

like fuck dude we're so divided right I get emotional it's sad but I was like what the fuck is going on everybody's so defining whether you're left

Well, you're right. I just said, dude, I can't, like, what do I do? Mm-hmm. So I said, I'm going to make an Instagram account. And I'm going to make this bigger. And I was mad. I was mad. What angered me the most, it wasn't just about people going in or whatever.

People say it was peaceful. Some people say it wasn't. I'm not here to debate that with anybody. But what I am here to tell you is that the division that was amplified. that day from both sides was sickening. And I said we've got to get back

to a place where people can start treating Americans like Americans again. And we're far from that, dude. We're super far from that. And it's getting every day I think it's getting worse. So

I after January 6th, when I saw all that, and then I saw, like I saw social media, Republicans are blaming Democrats, and Democrats are screaming at Republicans, and the media is spinning it their ways. You know, you turn on CNN, and they've got their view. In MSNBC, they're paying it like, this is insane.

And then you've got Fox News painting in a different way, and you've got people saying different things and getting mad. and screaming and yelling and I said what the fuck is going on what are we doing you know um so that was that was the day I was like we need to we need to find a way to get people informed and we need to find a way to maybe try to get people to see both sides because I think the echo chambers were too loud. I mean, it's true. And I want to be clear.

Some people in my listeners would be like, he's saying that January 6th was an awful thing, or he's not talking about the FBI agents. You're not understanding what I'm saying. You're not on my level. I've never discussed that on here. But my thing is this, and I want to be clear. I'm not.

I'm not going there because that has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. You're getting tied up in all the noise. I'm talking to you right now as an American. not as a Democrat, not as a Republican. I'm talking about somebody that lives here. That was a shitty day. And it's one example of just... It's sad.

It is. It's sad. I mean, it's sad. You know, but how... I mean, so you started this because of January 6th. It wasn't specifically January 6th. because I was into it before. I was posting the news because I realized my friends weren't paying attention to what was going on in the world.

But what pushed me to then say, okay, I'm taking this to the next level. Instead of just posting this to my friends, I'm going to try to reach a bigger audience. So I was always into this. But what pushed me to then say, I need to get out there. I need to, this can't be just some little private thing that my friends get to read. because I can't change, you know, a couple hundred people, right? What's that going to do? I need to try to get a little louder.

So I still remember the day I started it, man. I was pouring rain. I was in a gas station, and I said, you know, fuck it. I'm going to make a news account. and I'm sitting there and signing up the account and asked me and says, what are you going to name this thing? You know, what's the username going to be?

And it was, didn't even think about it. Real news, no bullshit. Nice. And that was it. And then, you know, it's crazy where it's gone. Like, I still sit every day. I'm like, this is not real. Here we go again.

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Here's some color on the blue. Figure it out. I'm not here to give you the answer. A lot of people in this. I think what you're saying, and I agree. I think I know what you're saying. Basically, what you're saying is you are not telling people how to think or what to think. You are presenting them with whatever's out in the ecosystem at the time.

You don't put a spin on it. This is what's happened. This is who's saying that you make your own damn mind up. That's what I try to do here. Right. And it's interesting because a lot of people aren't used to that. They have to be told how to think. They have to be spoon-fed information.

Yep. I think that, I think we've lost a major, I think we've lost the majority of the older generations. I don't think those are salvageable. What do you mean by that? I think, what I mean by that, what I mean, what I mean by that is, My mind right now is how do we salvage it? You know, you're trying to salvage it through real news, no bullshit. I'm trying to salvage it through a couple of different ways, talking to both sides,

you know, not telling people how to think, let them digest the information very much similar to what you're doing. You know, but then, but, you know, taking a look at it, you know, from a 30,000-foot view, you know, when you see people, lots of people who continuously just, They get their information from one, only one source, only one news station. You know, that typically is the baby boomer generation. Their world has been flipped upside down. They don't know what to think. They are.

Brainwashed. Insalvageable, brainwashed voters. Right. That's what that is. That are incapable of. absorbing another view. Exactly. And that's why I tell people,

and I hope you don't mind if I say this, if you're listening to this and you lean left or right or middle, or you watch, let's say you watch CNN, or you watch Fox News, or you watch MSNBC, because that's what you like and that's what you believe. Great, good for you.

Do me a favor. Take 30 minutes out of your day and go watch something completely counter-opistant to that. Why? Because you need to check, challenge your thoughts. If you get stuck in an echo chamber, then you're basically being hurted like sheep. Right? Mm-hmm. So I have friends that lean left and right. I tell them all the time, go listen. Like, I have a very liberal friend who can't stand, like, I could just

pull somebody younger, though. So I said, go listen to Benny Johnson for 30 minutes. I could never do that do it chat make sure you believe what you believe i've another friend super conservative go listen to those girls on msnbc dude i can't do it why just prove yourself that you're right prove that what you believe is what you believe and a lot of people need to do that you need to be diversifying your news sources because it's too there's too much no unfortunately there's too much noise in it today uh you know with this rise of independent media and we'll get into this um there's a lot of activists masquerading as journalists and you've got to now get out there and pick a handful of the ones you like and a handful of the ones you don't agree with because you'd be surprised when

you get stuck in your echo chamber how much you're not hearing about other shit you know people will say all the time I had no idea about this well maybe it's because you listen to CNN all there Fox News you know they leave things out remember I told you they paint a picture

they might not include that that stroke or that line but it can be you know to their credit and I'm dealing with this right now the album

it's not just mainstream media you were just talking about independent feels like the algorithm will put you in the in a cage it's dangerous it's a cage and you know you you can you can tell when you're in a cage when every other post is all the same subject right you know and it's not just the same subject it's a specific it's a specific one-sided narrative about that subject right and in you are encapsulated inside of that algorithm you cannot navigate your way out it's immense control and it's truly like i don't even think people understand

the scope of it and it could be weaponized very easily and um we get some time some people will say you guys only post right leaning stuff or you only post left leaning stuff i'm like no we post both it's just your algorithm is cooking it up to you the way that it wants you to see it go actually tap and read you know and it's it's interesting you're right it's the algorithm has a play in it um there's a lot of things that so how have you set your team up how have you set your team up to be real news no bullshit we started with four we're down to two plus me and then i've got some part-time people but i have two people that write for me that don't agree on anything Nice.

But you know what's special about those two people? While they don't agree on anything politically, one's got blue hair and one's a super right-leaning guy. You know what I mean? Like you would never, the stereotypes for both sides, that's what I have. And while they don't agree on anything, they're friends. And they can work together. So what I do is I write a little bit, but they mostly write, and let's say,

I have somebody write something. I don't want to name her. But let's say she writes something. I'll say, hey, now you write this. Go add your flavor to it. Right? And then what I kind of do is I take both and I put it together. So I have two writers myself and then some people

when we do our documentaries. But it's a tight ship, dude. I don't need a lot of people. Yeah. Don't need, you know. How do they find their information? They search so up. I mean, they read news like everybody else reads news.

You know, obviously you can't just rely on AP or Reuters or whatever, but they'll go ahead and start looking into a topic, watching press conferences. You know, that's something that we do a lot. We're watching a lot of video all day, all these hearings, all these, you know, everything that everybody else is absorbing. And then we're kind of. observing than what the left and the right is saying or if it comes something on the international maybe what the US is saying the prevailing argument and

then we'll go take what that country is saying or those people are saying we kind of just I kind of look at it as like a book report it's very it's in our stuff's very standardized it's we give you an intro sentence we give you sometimes a paragraph about some shit you should know we always say some shit you should know before you dig in. Just some really foundational information that brings somebody up to speed. And then it's just, here's what this guy said,

here's what that guy said, and that's what's going on. It's not like a whole huge process on how we do this. And because of that, you know, I figured the less people you have in your bubble, the better. It's less drama, less bullshit. How do you keep, how do you keep, how do you keep them from putting their own spent on things they all naturally have their biases

i think that's when i come in like we're here right now and there's no news being posted while while this is being recorded why because i'm the final one who has a say on what goes up that's a double-edged sword see like that gives me a lot of influence over my people because technically I'm dictating what my people are seeing, but I have this view that both sides suck. This is a game, right? This is saying that they're two sides of the same coin. Very true. And I think that kind of gives me the ability in a way to just take the best arguments from these guys, the best arguments from these guys, and just put it together. But yeah, they do have their spins.

Totally. But that's what's the beauty of having two people that don't agree on anything working for you. Because you get two really good arguments. How many times are you guys posting on a day? Depends. Four to six times a day. We've got on Instagram and then on our website doing like five to six articles a day. I mean, these bigger news outlets, they're doing 30, 50.

Yeah. But a lot of it, I think, is a lot of noise, a lot of the bullshit. How fast are you growing? We're growing pretty fast. Seems like it. It's been, technically, since then to now, we're almost at 1.6 million followers. Do you guys have a newsletter by chance? Don't.

Dude, you need to start a newsletter. Really? Yes. You need to start a newsletter. We just, all we do, man, is, like, I haven't really refined it because I just, I, I'm in a way, I'm in a position where I just want my news to be accessible. And I didn't really get in this to make money. I genuinely wanted people to wake up.

And I think as time has gone on, you know, we've just, we've built ourselves on Instagram, man. I haven't spent a dollar on marketing. Wow. Not a dollar. It's the name. Yeah. Which when I first started, a lot of people told me, you got to change the name.

No one's going to take you seriously. I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck. Why? Why? It's just what it is. It's real news. No bullshit.

Just, you take it. Let's talk about the double-edged sword of independent media. Yeah. I have a very interesting. interesting take about the rise of independent media. And to get to that, I think we got to step back just for a second and talk about how we got here. I believe that the rise of independent or what I like to call new media began when it first, the first spark, I think, is when Donald Trump announced his run for president, his first time.

And the word fake news kicked it off. That's from what I've, now, I'm young, man. I'm not old. And so it could have been before that. Someone might listen to this and say, oh, it started away before. This is from my view. And when Trump became president, we had this war between Trump and the media. And I think whether you agreed with the media or you agreed with Trump,

It was opening people's eyes to the possibility that maybe some people are biased. I grew up watching CNN when I was a little kid. I was six, seven years old. That was my thing. I love watching CNN and stuff like that. And I never noticed that they had a biased until Trump announced his presidency. It was obvious. And I also, at the time, I was so young, I didn't realize Fox News had a biased that was pro-Republican.

But as you get older, you start figuring those things out. But when Trump ran, it was crystal clear that there was this rise of clear bias in media. And that, along with him battling the media throughout his presidency, started leading to people looking for alternate sources. But what truly lit the fire was COVID. I believe that when COVID kicked off there was an active effort to suppress

information that was valid and I'm not going to get into I know there's a lot of people that have a lot of different views here's one fact that I point to we got penalized by meta and almost lost our account for talking about the Wuhan lab leak theory was it two months after Biden came into office

almost lost our account okay now I believe it's today is it with low confidence the CIA says that it could have been a lab leak you know information changes but you know the mainstream media at the time wasn't talking about that That was a conspiracy theory. Yep.

Right? You never saw that shit anywhere. And so that's one example out of many where I think people really started opening their eyes and their life. Why do you think they covered that up? Why do you think that was the forbidden fruit that you're not allowed to talk about? The Wuhan Labelika. Yeah. What is it about the Wuhan?

Why don't they want that coming out? I mean, your guess would be as good as mine, but I would personally, think that if the public had an idea that China was making biological weapons, right, because that was the whole idea. They were working on this, whatever, that would maybe freak people out. That's a reality I don't want to live in, where we have foreign governments making bio weapons. There's always been foreign governments making bio weapons. Right, but I think, I think, I think, I mean, Syria's been gassing its own people for, right, ever, right. I mean, it could be something

like that. It could be, I mean, what, is the public going to demand that the United States do something? What does that response look like? At the time, too, something really interesting. Maybe it could be this, you know, just coming to my thoughts. When COVID kicked up, where were we getting all of our shit, all of our PPE stuff China So can we talk shit about China When we need all that shit Can we?

I don't think so Look what's going on right now with China As we're sitting here talking They have a Monopoly on rare earth materials That we use to make missiles To airplanes to the shit in your phone

Right And they're They're putting export restrictions on that stuff, what do you think China would have done if we came out off the bat and said, you fuckers, leaked it out of the lab, fuck you now, let me buy five billion masks from you. What are they going to say? They're going to tell you to go kick rocks?

I mean, it's a good. Or are they going to just take the money and keep doing business? I don't know. But, I mean, your guess is as good as mine. It could be anything. You know, there's a prevailing theory that China was being pushed in China, and I've seen this theory. I haven't looked into it, that it leaked out of some U.S. facility. Have you heard that?

University of North Carolina? Yeah. I haven't done my research on it. But I was like, oh, that's really interesting because we're saying it leaked out of Wuhan. They're now saying their conspiracy theory, quote, unquote, is it's coming out of some place in North Carolina or wherever. You know, so it's, I don't know. Yeah, I've heard that theory. I mean, I don't know.

I think China has got us cornered in a lot of different ways. And, you know, they don't, I don't think they necessarily need a reason to pull the plug on us. Do you think Americans realize that? I think that a lot of them do now. I tend to think that Americans have no idea at the level China's at right now. I think the listeners of this show have an idea. But, you know, and I think, I think. think that they i think that people are waking up to it i mean you know 20 was a 20 2020

yeah the 2020 election you know it was also it was also you know leading up to it it was you know uh xenophobe you know all the all in the debate you weren't allowed to say it and it would correct it would correct you know what i mean it would correct whoever was talking about it paying them out to be some mass racist, you know, against China when we're just having, you know, fucking discussion. Right. And that's how it should be. You should just let people talk about.

But afterwards, you know, right after the election, you started seeing, you know, Democrats started taking China more seriously. It was almost like, if he has not been listening to the president for the past four years, he's been talking about this nonstop. then he was labeled xenophob then the next guy comes in office

who's on the other side and all of a sudden everybody starts taking the shit seriously and you yeah I look at it really interestingly I think we're we're seeing right now

we're in some scary times and I don't think people realize it you've got a Western rules-based order and you've got an Eastern rules-based order that is now wanting to come up. I tell people, you know, when I started giving the news to my friends, I always would break it down in analogies because I feel like I had to get them to understand a little better.

And it's, the United States has undoubtedly been the only chef in the kitchen for a long time. And what we're seeing now is China saying, hey, we want to cook too. The question is, is what are we going to do? are we going to allow them to cook or are we not and i would argue that based on everything that's going on right now the u.s isn't willing to give that up and that can lead to some scary shit and uh i mean do look at look at what's going on right now i mean china is they're they're building up man it's it's it's not even they used to say that we would always be ahead now i keep hearing they'll be caught up to us in five years trump just said it a

couple days ago so it's inevitable i don't know it's coming though and that's scary right now in space i don't something i've been watching a lot it's not getting a lot of attention you know they got satellites in space stalking all of our satellites stocking is the words they use i have assumed that i did not know that they've admitted it top general so that we have Russian and Chinese satellites following our satellites every movement. And you know what that tells me is this world might not be as stable as we really think it is. And that's a hard pill for a lot of people to swallow. I live every moment of my life now because the next 10 minutes isn't guaranteed.

That's scary to hear. but when you see shit like that nobody trusts anybody nobody and I look at the news look at what's going on I mean it's fucked

it is it is and it's and it's I don't I don't know I mean it's sad

it's sad what are the pro let's get to the let's get to uh get back to independent media i mean what do you think the pros of independent media are look i think i think it's important to have alternate sources of information that aren't controlled by like the big five what i mean by the big five is there is media

like Disney owns certain news outlets, Comcast owns the news outlets. They're all under their umbrella. Salem Media, which I don't even know if it's possible to show you. They're one of the biggest in the country. Nobody really talks about them. Have you seen that video where all the reporters are saying the same shit at the same time? About 100 times.

Yeah, that should scare the shit out of people, right? I hope you can show that. that is why independent media is important that video is the perfect example for it because everybody's reading off of a script and that's being disseminated across America back to your your original person's question there's propaganda that's propaganda you know that's like some Soviet level shit happening in America um so the The pros of it, obviously, we have just an independent, not controlled by a certain entity being able to give out news. But so you get that, you get analysis, you get different things, and you can kind of bend rules a little bit.

When I say bend rules, maybe it's not the etiquette to be a regular journalist and follow certain rules. or have to do this or that or, you know. So there's some bending that I think can maybe lend a better picture for people. But I also think that there are a lot of cons with it. What are the cons? It's interesting coming from me because you would think I would think this is great. But there are a lot of people in this space right now motivated by money. Yeah.

Because everybody's in it to collect a check. If you open up wherever you get your news right now, focus on an independent creator. They're all activists. I have not to this day. Actually, there's one person I've found. everybody is basically, these new independent creators or news journals or whatever, they're just, they're many CNNs, they're many Fox Newses, they're activists, they're not journalists, and they're towing their party lines. And I can give you some examples off the bat that go both

sides of this. When President Biden was in office, fact, he relied on influencers to push the inflation reduction act brought them to the white house right they made some chick that hides under a desk i don't know if you're seen her on tic talk talking about how great the inflation reduction act is i wonder if she was paid another one recently we got a ping pong right the uh all the journalists who got invited to the white house to parade the epstein file what a fucking disaster that was fucking disaster holding that shit up like it's a trophy yeah and what did we get nothing what a shit show that is yeah continues to be a shit show every day man and it's bad it's bad dude you know what worries me about independent media in and mainstream is

is you know you're right everybody's you know everybody's driven by money to some extent right yeah but you see like people will go down rabbit holes and you you don't see them come out of certain rabbit holes and then it becomes the thing and they can't leave it you know they can't they drug yep it's it's what the audience expects from them they get i don't know what happens because i like to keep it you know we'll hit a we'll hit a subject and then we're hit a totally different subject and you know what i mean yeah i don't don't dwell in the same in the same subject matter for long. I like to bounce around because every subject

can become the one thing that you're known for. Yeah. You know, and you see that with a lot of different subjects right now. You see it with COVID. You see it with Jan 6th. You see it with Israel. You see it with China. You see it with BLM, Antifa.

Any, any, any, you know, you see it and then it's bam, bam, bam. That's all we talk about, is that one thing, that one thing. And then you've got to start getting creative to pump out new content, and you get to start, you know where I'm going. Like, eventually the facts run out or you never run into the facts. So then it starts theory and then conspiracy and then... And conspiracy makes money. Yep. That's the issue.

It goes back to what I was saying. There are a lot of people in the space chasing a check, and there's a lot of money in here. okay I've been lucky enough in my life that you know I've I've always been doing different stunts and entrepreneurial shit and I've I used to chase money when I was growing up and once you kind of start getting some of it and doing some things I've had some successes here and there that doesn't motivate you anymore so for me I don't really give a shit I really don't I mean I don't want to be losing but a lot of these people that are in here they don't have that they don't have maybe another nest to go to and so what do you got to do to make money how do you

make money as an independent news creator two ways you either sell subscriptions or you sell your soul that's it we went to subscription route we have people that subscribe to us that pay for a little extra news but the other way to do it is you sell sponsorships. Now, some sponsorships can be great because they don't influence what you're talking about. But a lot of it isn't. A lot of it is people that are getting paid right now, Sean. This is a real thing, and I can show you, where people are being paid to talk about news. Oh, yeah, we've seen it. We've seen it. There's a perfect example. You before we dive into this, before we dive into this, because we're going to spend a lot of time here.

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in the media lately yeah so let's start domestically first domestic influence first and then we'll get into the foreign shit right on um and i want to be clearly i've i've got one example that's going to lean more to the right but it's on both sides i'm just picking the most recent example cool to give you but there's a company called influenceable influenceable Influensible, and they're basically like a marketing company that goes out there and tries to create noise for marketing campaigns. And they're getting a lot of shit online because they've been involved in political campaigns, campaigns to drive policy, and whatnot. So this is... Influensible.

How are they reaching out to people? Is it email? Is it social? So I'm going to show you some stuff that I pulled. This is, to give you some background, X is a cesspool of a lot of people who think they're, how do I say this, Sean? The resident X, they, yeah, they're armchair quarterbacks that don't know shit. And I, you know, it's funny, I listen to a lot of them. Like, what's X spaces?

I'm an X-space fiend. I love listening to these guys pontificate bullshit. And I'm sitting there fact-checking them just as they're talking. And they're all full of shit. Okay. But with that, there's this like rivalry among some of them. They don't like, I might not like you because you're taking away from my audience. There's a lot of that shit.

So this came out on X. This got aired out like laundry. This company called Influensible, allegedly. I want to be really clear. Allegedly. Yeah, if you guys are coming to sue me, allegedly, this is all on X. They pushed a campaign. allegedly that was trying to convince people to not allow the government to overregulate

and get involved in where people were buying soda with, let me read it exactly. This campaign highlights the dangers of government overregulation with a specific focus on current efforts to restrict soda purchases through food aid programs. So do you remember when RFK was pushing to stop using SNAP benefits to purchase the ice cream, soda, all that shit? So this is actually, this is one of these conservative news influencers aired out everybody's dirty laundry and called everybody out. I think, person, I think he's just as guilty, but another shit. Call them out for what? A lot of these news accounts, they were more right-leaning, started posting on X.

I'll just start giving them to you. Sorry. Read this. I'll just give you both. Read both. Those are just two examples. All right. All right.

So this, all right. So you want me to read these out? Yeah, yeah. I mean, why not? So this is Eric Doherty, important. We cannot allow make America healthy again messaging to be used to force needy Americans ended not buying certain things. Some officials in DC are working on trying to prevent Americans on SNAP from using those benefits to purchase any soda. Remember, when New York City

Democrats tried to prevent people from buying and consuming soda, it backfired big time. President Trump literally has a Diet Coke button in his Oval Office. Let people think and decide for themselves anyone can consume soda and be perfectly fine in moderation. Unless we're just going to ban every food with sugar in it for SNAP Americans. Another account. One of the most popular accounts on X. Not Jerome Powell. Yeah.

Government overreach strikes again. This time it's soda's turn. They want to restrict soda purchases through SNAP this time. This is an unwarranted attempt by the government to dictate what Americans can or cannot consume, which is an over-extension of government power in a violation of personal choice. Even President Trump likes to drink his Diet Coke on a daily basis.

The government needs to stop over-regulating what Americans can or cannot do. Can I read the initial... So this is from... That was the initial campaign that was allegedly sent out and this guy named Nick Sorter, which I've got my opinions on him,

I can give you later, but he aired all this out. out saying look at all these guys in my realm that are doing this campaign and that are pushing the same messaging because that's when RFK was talking about potentially trying to restrict SNAP benefits to purchase soda and other shit and then all of a sudden you have all these accounts and what's if you compare both messages what's something that they will talk about Trump Diet Coke Trump Diet Coke it's let me just read this real quick so this is this is a Allegedly the what, like this is that's allegedly the pitch that was given to all these influencers.

Okay, soda bans and government overregulation. Objective. This campaign highlights the dangers of government overregulation with a specific focus on current efforts to restrict soda purchases through food aid programs. The narrative emphasizes how such regulation is an overreach that unfairly targets consumer choice, especially considering the president himself is a Diet Coke enthusiast. Key messaging. Government overreach. Efforts to restrict soda purchases through SNAP are an unwarranted attempt by government to dictate what Americans can or cannot consume, which is an overextension of government power and a violation of personal choice.

Personal choice and freedom. The right to make personal food and drink choices should not be restricted by government bureaucracy. Consumers, especially those relying on SNAP, deserve autonomy in their purchasing decisions. Economic concerns. Limiting soda purchase will likely harm beverage companies, retailers, and food suppliers, especially those who catered to low-income Americans by relying on SNAP benefits. Trump's preference for Diet Coke. Trump himself regularly enjoys Diet Coke can be used to highlight the ridiculousness of these regulations.

So pause for a second. the fact that those two tweets are literally hitting the point on that document to a T. And here's the problem. None of these people disclosed that they got paid. And this is the instruction. I wanted to say one more thing that I find interesting here. Then it gives you key resources. These look like links that you can download images or maybe some towards video.

So it says key resources and we'll post this up so people can see it. another war on soda how bureaucratic overreach threatens Trump's working class coalition and then another link Trump with Diet Coke image so come on dude too here's and then here's the instructions on how they would submit their work at the end oh it's oh it's submittable okay well how how they go to get paid essentially okay if you submit post after the campaign deadline it will still count as missed is a missed deliverable misdeliverables are deducted from your base pay. It is very important. We have all deliverables so we can utilize this in our campaign overview. And then, yeah, it just has a bunch more points. All posts must show likes. Do not

hide likes. If these are hidden, you will only get paid 50% of your offer. Pages must be sent to public. We cannot compensate for posts on private pages. Yeah, it's all a typical, Typical ad campaign guidelines, basically is, you know, this is ad campaign guidelines. But they're pushing, these are news influencers who consider them independent. That's not independent. You're owned. So where are these coming in from? These are from email?

I mean, I'm curious to see if we. They come from email. By the way, here's the kid, like Eric Daughtry kid. After he got called out, he admitted. Well, he got paid. That's the tweet. Eric Daugherty. This is the guy.

Oh, this is this dude. This is the same guy. So I just read. That's how he acknowledged he got paid. Yeah, that was dumb of me. Oh, wait a minute. So Nick Sorter exposes him. Exposed, Influensible.

The company cutting big checks to influencers on behalf of Big Soda. Over the past 48 hours, several large supposedly mega-aligned influencers posted almost identical talking points fed them to convince fed to them convincing you maha was that's a show more it's got clown world it's got our eric dority here so he and then eric responds yes that was dumb of me massive egg on my face in all seriousness it won't happen again wow good job the hell good job buddy so that and that's just one so like this this is going on also these were what these offers look like this is a guy um right on who exposed one of these offers they offer you 50 bucks to talk about whatever the topic is okay and

so this is yeah the name's been redacted here blank is still under attack by the republican establishment and the democrats another blank is a patriot and spanish career fire for America first values and law and order now it's time we return the favor offer fifty dollars deliverables one original tweet on this issue message messaging then there's a link timeline ASAP by end of day Wednesday july 26 submit after completing the deliverables here's here's the form so the thing is you know this is actually i mean i don't know if we have any of these i think when we take another break i'll get the eve mails from you and I'll just have our, my people dig in.

I haven't had, I want to be clear, I haven't had Influensible Contact Me, but because it looks like they're targeting people on the right. Now, with that being said, I just gave you one example. This happens on the left too, okay? So I don't want people to think I'm just going after the right, but this is happening on a large scale. And I think they're really going for people that are loud and noisy to their basis. I mean, I don't think this isn't a new thing. And I think people, people think people think it. I mean, look, we saw what, Beyonce took a big check from Camalo

and supposedly she didn't during, you know, the election race. And I mean, this stuff is happening all over, you know, but I don't think people realize that it's happening for $50. But it's not even that, Sean. The problem is, is this, Beyonce taking a check from Kamala, is it bad? Yeah. Is it wrong? Yeah.

But is Beyonce pushing news and calling herself an independent journalist? No. So when these people who give shit all day to the mainstream media, which sometimes it's rightfully deserved, and claim to be the new media and are fighting the corrupt bullshit from the mainstream media are then selling their asses for a couple hundred dollars yeah what are you what are they now they're just as bad yeah if not I would say even worse and you know what makes me wonder can you imagine maybe I don't have proof but like has the mainstream media been getting offers like this for a long time maybe from

big pharma maybe from other companies yeah you know I don't know I mean, I think it's pretty obvious. Yeah, yeah, but my point is, is like, this is what's happening, and there's influence that's being bought. And a lot of people in this space are just, they're chasing the check. I was telling your producer, I'm in a position where I don't have to chase a check. Okay. That's rare, I think, in this field, because it's hard to make money, dude. It's not easy.

I mean, starting a news outlet. A lot of people might think we get paid from Instagram. I haven't gotten a cent. Okay? Instagram doesn't pay me shit. I only get paid if people go subscribe to us. Those people are taking the deals because they don't have subscribers. And I get it.

They got to make money. What do you get? I'm just curious. I have not checked out your website. I should have checked that out. I just, I see you on the gram. Whoever's behind there. I've messaged back and forth with them.

I hope that's you. We shoot the shit, yeah. But, but, I mean, what do you, I'm just curious. What do your subscribers get? They're essentially paying for double the news. Okay. So what we tell people is this, like, look, we can't do this for free. Mm-hmm.

I have people to pay. And, you know, my, so I have to give them something. So what I give them is a little more news as a thank you. Gotcha. But, you know, Sean, my goal. is one day, I hope that I can get this to a level and I haven't figured out how I would fund it. But I don't think people should have to pay for news, which is contrary to what I'm doing right now. I think information should be as openly available as possible. But I'm in a position

right now where without the subscription. I got a great idea. I've heard Israel and Qatar are paying $7,000 a post to talk about whatever bullshit they want in the media right now. Yeah, it's, I'd be the first one to tell you, I haven't gotten an offer from Israel. And China. We're going to get into that, yeah. And Russia. Yeah. So the thing is, is this.

And the Democrats are they're all doing it. And, you know, the thing is, is this, Sean, this isn't a regulated space. And listen, I'm one of the first people to tell you, I hate when the government comes in. and starts fucking with things, okay? Because I have this view that usually when they try to help you, while they're helping you, they're stabbing you in the neck and something else is going to happen. The question is, how are we going to regulate this?

And I've, listen, I spent a lot of nights, man. I go out every night I sit my jacuzzi and just look up at the stars and think about the world. I've spent so many days trying to figure out, how do we fix this without them, going overboard. Well, let's go, let's go through the rest of the, let's go through the less of the influence and then we'll come up with the...

Let's get into some foreign stuff, foreign influence. Dude, this is really bothering me. This foreign influence shit with Middle Eastern countries, Israel, Qatar, Saudi, China, Russia, like... Everybody. They're weaponizing. What is going on?

Yeah. What is going on? So, today I'm coming here and part of the thing we're going to talk about, I have been contacted by foreign governments either directly or indirectly to do news stories in their countries or to post news like how those guys were, right? But either about topics in their countries or them just wanting for us to go to their country and show something to our audience. Oh yeah, we've had that too. We've had, yeah, see, I'm sure you have. You know what's interesting, though, is, you know, I'm just, we tried to get the PM of Cutter really hard. Like, we were talking to them, we were in there, they weren't going to pay us shit.

I wouldn't take payment anyways. Right. But it wouldn't let us fucking do it. We tried to sync it up with when we went to Taiwan. We thought it would be a great, you know, pit stop on the way. home hit hit cutter but they didn't go for it why do they tell you why or they just didn't respond i can't i can't remember it was you know it was so there's four we've had foreign governments literally reach out to us like when i say reach out to us i there's one i'm going to show you an

example of today and then there's one that we'll get into this was a dm we got on instagram from the uk government do you mind if i read it read the whole thing UK Home Office. Hi, team, hope you're well. The Home Office are currently looking to partner with trusted outlets and pages such as yourselves to increase awareness around the vital work the government and law enforcement are undertaking to keep the public safe from crime. This is the UK. As a result, we're looking to explore new collaborative opportunities to create authentic digital content with partners. If you feel appropriate, It would be great to discuss this in further detail over email or call you or call if you're able to provide the best point of contact. Many thanks, FAPMA, social media, team, and Home Office. So that was a DM, right? And I couldn't believe how brazy that was. I'm like, they literally DM'd me off of the UK Home Office's Instagram.

That's crazy. So I told Trey, who works for me, I said, Trey, I can't believe this. just just entertain it get in an email i want to know more so trey being the wizard he is right he starts contacting her and we got her to an email this is her dotgov dot uk email can't wait to read this shit uk where people are getting their heads cut off with read the date knives on bridges hey try hi tray this is fat mom following up on the chat on instagram you've asked for more information on what our collab could look like, we basically work in different policy areas with topic you might be interested in talking about. These include crime and policing, migration,

homeland security, and tackling violence against women and girls. Oh, because that one, this is, this must have been right after that one. So pause. This is the biggest issues in the UK right now that people are pissed about, that there's a lot of division over migration, illegal migration, violence against women, those protests have been all cooking over this, and also the, um, the, uh, uh, uh, uh, crime. So, what's interesting is this woman. Let me, let me, can I finish with you? Yeah, yeah, go, go. I've outlined below what we could be, what we would be able to give you access to and more broadly what working together could look like.

ministerial access exclusive interviews and sit downs with our ministers exclusive clips home office digital lobby offer you embargoed press notices operational footage exclusive digital clips a chance to cover a home office breaking story as news breaks access to trusted voices we could potentially look at setting up exclusive interviews with trusted voices We regularly take media on operational opportunities to cover a breaking story. For example, this includes immigration enforcement raids, illegal working police raids, case studies, and influencers. Offer access to influencers we work with in our policy areas or be a part of our work with them. Offer access to case studies. this also is a non this also not an exhaustive list we're always looking

for new opportunities to collaborate let me know if you have any questions do they offer you any money we didn't get that far that was the last email I just wanted it on email okay but my brother who works for me and I don't know they said that they have

a screen they could put it up he did some digging so it turns out that lady Fatima works for a migration organization that promotes people migrating

and she wants I don't know do you have a screen is that a thing yeah they'll throw it up I could find it but essentially I actually I'd like to read it to you so

she works for a company apparently called Migration Jam and Migration Jam is a migrant-led collective, utilizing the power of ethical storytelling and intercommunical dialogue to counter the mainstream negative narratives about migrants and refugees. She also works for the UK government.

Okay, that's her. That uses it on Google. You can go look her up. And it says that she's a Yemeni entrepreneur, whatever. My point is this, she's contacting us to potentially go to the, UK to do a story. Okay. Some people might not have, might not have a concern about that. I think that's morally wrong for a foreign government, whether it's an ally or an adversary, to reach out to a news outlet. And not only say, we want you to come here and do a story, but here's the

topics we think you should talk about, which are the big issues right now in the UK. that are being talked about in the U.S. right now. You have to ask yourself, why would the U.K. want to target an Instagram account that's U.S.-based that has almost 1.6 million followers to talk about the U.K.'s problems. It is interesting, isn't it?

Why do they give a shit about the NIR? I mean, are there, you know, maybe a little out of scope here, but I mean, I don't see much pushback from the citizens of the U.S. UK. Do you? I have. There's been protests. Have you seen the protests?

They're getting pretty. I did see one protest. I can't remember what it was about. There's people getting pissed off there. I mean, we had this guy, this totally, I wouldn't say it's irrelevant, but just an example. We had this guy, Jay Cowan. They are basically, he was an S.A.S. guy over there, they're like charging him with fucking murder or some shit like that from like

past war crimes. It's ridiculous. We met him in Dubai. And, And got his story out and the, they, they're railroaded these guys. They're basically, you know, so basically, here's the gist of it. Obviously, the, uh, Muslim demographic in UK has, his, has risen exponentially, correct? True. I think everybody pretty much knows that. True.

You know, now what's happening is they are, they are trying their military members and, And more specifically, they're special operations guys for war crimes against Muslims. But it's just the shit that they ask their guys to do. And now they're prosecuting them or they're trying to prosecute them. For orders they were given? Yes. Yes. And you know what? So we did this.

And this has happened in all kinds of guys. None of these guys want to fucking speak up. To be honest with you, I almost didn't do this interview because these guys don't want to talk. So we had to have a long talk with Jay and say, hey, like, you're going to have to, like, get articulate here and be specific on what's going on. None of this, you know, vagueness. And he promised we would do it. So he did it. You know, I've not seen one fucking SAS guy stand up for this dude, not fucking one.

And I've talked to several of them, and they all tell me, oh, yeah, that's fucked up what's going. on. I can't believe this shit. This is happening to everybody. So it's not like he's like a turd and nobody wants to help him. They are too fucking scared to speak up for their own rights and their own freedom. And these

fucking pains me to say, these are the most badass people that the UK has to offer. It's their SBS, S-B-S-A-S. And they'll DM you and they'll tell you how fucked up it is that they're doing what they're doing to Jay, but they won't say a fucking word

in public. Yeah. So what, I mean, what hope do they have? And these are fucking tier one operator scared.

Tough as guys. To back their own fucking guy. They're, you know what their motto is? Hmm. He who dares wins. Wow.

What a fucking joke that is. It's that powerful. The institution there is that powerful. Yeah. And I mean, look, Personally, me, if... Not one fucking guy.

Yeah. Not one fucking guy. Came out and spoke on his behalf, said anything. Nothing. Not a fucking peep. So what hope do they have? Tells you how fucked it is. None.

I have no hope. Yeah. What are they going to do? The most violent, badass, individuals that you have in your entire country are too fucking scared to speak up for their own what what's that's not how you create change no it's sad um sorry to interrupt no no it's good that you said that but like so this is some people might watch this and say well this is an ally that's just wanting to do this i don't give a fuck this is totally unacceptable

Let me tell you something. If it's okay for them to do it, is it okay for China to do it? Is it okay for Russia to do it? Is it okay for Qatar to do it? Is it okay for Israel to do it? Why do you think, I mean, just UK specifically, why do you think they give a shit? I mean, their citizens aren't rising up. Maybe, okay, they did a protest.

There's, I wouldn't say they're rising up, but there is definitely right now a, a way of being created because there are some people that are pissed off and there are some protests that are getting bigger and there is there's a big push around Nigel Farage that'd be an interesting person for you to talk to actually there's this there's people in the UK that aren't happy people are getting locked up have you heard about and I'm not well first in it

but there's this is all this big online debate that the UK is now arresting people for speech. Oh, yeah, I've seen, I've seen... There was a comedian that got arrested and tied up in it. And Joe Rogan was speaking pretty passionately about it. I think what they're arresting them for is inciting violence. I think that's the terminology. That's dangerous.

That's a dangerous road you're going down. And going back to that email, it's very interesting how they were very specific about certain topics that are big issues in the U.K. right now, and they want to portray it to Americans. The question is, like you said, why do they want Americans to know? Why do they care? Why do they care what we think? Interesting. There's been people in the U.S. that have been openly talking about the problems in the U.K. Elon Musk has brought it up a couple times. Donald Trump's been asked about it with Kare Starmer, the prime minister, next to him, and he says, well, we'll have to look into that, or I hope that's not true, or, you know.

So it's coming up. So I would assume they're trying to somehow control the narrative in the U.S. to pipe it down, maybe, or to show that it's not as bad as it's being portrayed, or I don't know. What do you think the motivation is, though? I mean, they have no problem talking shit about the US pretty much nonstop I mean to go to Europe they all fucking hate us you know

not all of them but a lot of them you know they can't stand us so what do they give a shit your your guess is as good as mine I mean I'm not going to tell you what I because I don't know and maybe maybe she can come on and tell you it would be great if they'd show up

well we got her email now yeah now ask her this is going to start a lot of shit man I haven't been to London yet I wanted to go to London and walk around that's gone you know but I don't know I don't know why but but take that example and let me give you some others that I've dealt with too oh I'd love to hear this now these ones I can't show you and I'll explain to you why this was a direct reach out by the UK government at the end of her email she says I can't share it if she wants to sue me let's go the UK government's going to sue me

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with them but a company like that that has these online campaigns this is going to blow your mind, last, around December of last year, we got contacted by a U.S.-based influence marketing company that offered us $25,000 and the potential to make up to $40,000 to do a story. First, they said it's in a country, very broad. They want, but they said it would be, we're in a country, yeah, no shit. Yeah, it's, it's a story in a foreign country. You would get $25,000 to go. They cover your flights.

There was a stipend related to hotels, you know, it was very, and the topics that were going to be discussed, you would talk about infrastructure of this place. You would talk about daily life, and you would talk about, um, you know, just just the history of where you were going. I said, sounds interesting, $25,000, where the fuck is this? You have to sign this NDA. You have to sign an NDA before they... That's how these guys.

Well, you signed two NDAs. The first NDA you sign is to even talk to them, okay? Because they don't want to be exposed. And then they say for, if you're interested in this, we'd have to disclose to you some information, sign this too. So I signed two. I'm going to break one of them here, but I can't break who the U.S.-based company is, because I know they'll sue me. We got contacted by the Communist Youth League of China.

The Communist Youth League of China. Yes. That's what we were told who they were. Okay. Now, what is that? It's very interesting, and it's to this day, Sean, it doesn't even make sense to me. Because how I understand what the Communist Youth League of China is, is it's a, it's like a incubator to create new Chinese leaders in China. So it's very bizarre to me that that's who they said this was for.

But this influence marketing company said, long story short, we want you to go to China, specific city. I can't pronounce it right. It's like Chongqing, China. Okay. go there and let's you're going to talk about infrastructure you're going to talk about daily life in china and you're going to give some history about china 25,000 to go up to $40,000 based on the views that you generate from your content so here's the thing two things I would never go to China because I you said you follow us during COVID you probably remember we were posting

all the videos out of China when they were locking people down I have a feeling if I arrived in China. The second I get off that plane, I'm going to be in some shit. Seriously. And I'm confident that they... This is a great ransom tool also, by the way. A great scam. If you can get fucking influencers to do this shit for 50 bucks, like that one email I just read, I mean...

25,000? Great wave. Human trafficking. Done. Easy, easy lure. Exactly. So, and like I told you, I'm not motivated by money, but this was so mind-blowing to me. I wanted to know more.

So I entertained it a little bit. And what they, it came down to the point where this marketing agency that's based in the U.S. was like, you guys need to make a move on this now because there's a lot of people that are getting this offer and you either go or you don't. And I said, no, fuck you. I'm not doing this. Everybody that's watching us, go on Instagram right now and type in Chongqing, China. Do you know how to spell it? I don't, but I think I have it saved in my notes.

Yeah, I realize why you can't just say it, but it is. It is. It just type it in, and you see it right off. You see it right up to there. There are shitloads, Sean, of videos talking about the infrastructure in Chongqing, China, or however the fuck you say it. and I want to be very clear this is from my lawyer I can't prove these people took that deal but everything a lot of them talk about is what I was told to talk about and it makes me

wonder there's a couple questions to that why does the Chinese government want people in America to know about a city why do they want people to know about the Chinese infrastructure why do they want people to know about daily life in this city

your guess is as good as mine but they need Chinese sympathizers inside this country that's why or are they trying to tell people that what you've been told about China and America is not true for example something that i noticed like we have we have a on our instagram our comment section

is pretty notorious i don't know if you ever read our comments but they're fucking hilarious um great shoutouts to the comment section but there are um sometimes when we're talking about china something that i constantly see and i'm not going saying it's true or not true is people will downplay china's um advancements of that Chinese jet is shit. You know, it's a copy of an American one, or they make shit or this and that. And I've been thinking about this, why did they want this? And maybe what they're trying to do is they're trying to get at that narrative

that everything in China is just a rip off of the U.S. and it's shit. China makes shitty products. And these videos of this city will blow your mind. I don't know any American city that looks like it. They got fucking, one of the guys, I got fucking trains going through buildings and roads are moving, the infrastructure looks crazy, and I don't know, but I don't know the reason why they want that, why they want Americans to see that. And what scares me more, Sean, I've given you two examples of foreign governments coming to me either directly or indirectly. What else are

they doing? What else are they doing to other news influencers? What are they pushing? There was another perfect example. Tenet Media. Did you ever hear about that? No, I don't think so. Just to synopsize it really quick, under Biden's DOJ, they busted this company that was paying influencers to push pro-Russian talking points about the war in Ukraine, paying people millions of dollars. Millions. But same thing. What did Russia do? Did Russia go straight to the influencer? No. They use these. Marketing. face brokers that are the in-between, and they're going, I think the case is still going on. The chick who's in it, she's fucked, and she was in on it, allegedly.

I mean, she hasn't been proven yet. But, and they were paying these influencers millions of dollars. Now, to these influencers, like Tim Poole was named in it, Benny Johnson was tied up. Oh, I do remember this now. Yeah, okay. I do remember this. So listen, though, to their argument, they're saying, well, we didn't know. that the Russian government was doing this to us.

If you believe that, which maybe that's true, maybe it's not true, it could make sense that they wouldn't know, because why would the Russian, you were in the CIA, why would the Russian government want influencers to know that they're being paid by them to talk shit on Ukraine? These guys are already so loud. They can't keep their mouth shut, right? So I actually would maybe believe it, that they had no idea. And none of them were actually charged. under Biden's DOJ.

Yeah. So there's that. There's also, there's talk. I haven't seen it directly to me yet. There's a lot of, in the news, that Israel is paying influencers. I do know that it's a fact that one of Donald Trump's former campaign advisors is listed now as a foreign agent on FARA. and he is working with Israel to, and this is all, oh, you can Google it and read about it,

to change the narrative about Israel online, and they're paying influencers. Now, there's talk at $7,000. I don't know, you've probably heard it. I haven't seen the $7,000. I would be happy to show you today if I got it. But I do know that they're paying influencers to push back on, rhetoric related to the war in Gaza and Israel's image. And this gets to really the crux of the problem.

This shouldn't be allowed. Okay? And it gets back to what I was saying. If the rise of independent media is supposed to not be what the mainstream media is, then we're all doing an awful job. Because I would argue, Sean, that this is worse. And what scares me is that, you know, look, the only way this country is going to fall is one of two ways, okay? Where they're going to fall because of a nuclear apocalypse that's going to kill us all or from within.

And if these people can weaponize, influence, and create division, right, and are trying to shift narratives and opinions. That could be very easily weaponized against you and me. Oh, we're already falling, man. I know, like make no mistake about it. But you know what? I hate to say that because you know how sad that is? It's fucking horrible because we are the only light and the world that represents any freedom at all. It's sad.

Really, we're not even, we're not even that free, but we're freer than everybody else in the world, right? I think these people are lighting that fire faster. If we go, you know, what, I don't think that the, I don't think that the, I don't know who's pulling the strings on all this shit got some ideas i think it's i think it's a group that is a group of different foreign foreign governments uh not necessarily convoluting with each other all for their you know for their specific purposes but you know they they are dividing you know every way they can and our we're doing it ourselves too i mean the right and the left are doing a great job of dividing this fucking country that's obvious uh we don't even really need the

the foreign influence but you know what people don't understand I don't think is that you know that nobody's coming in here nobody's coming in here

to conquer us nobody's coming in here to save us maybe the cartels you know what I mean or maybe you know spies here and there but it's not going to be like

a invasion or something like that it from when we when we but the purpose of dividing us I mean we're seeing

obviously huge rise in political violence. Yeah. But if this kicks off, let's say we go into a civil war or something, this, this will make the shit that I've seen in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, all over, you know, all over the Middle East, it'll look like child's play. But there are so many fucking guns in this country. Yeah.

So many people that are trained how to use them. stockpiling ammunition, stockpiling weapons, stoppiling, there are more guns here than anywhere else in the world. That people? And people that know how to use them.

Yeah. If you can divide this country enough just to get people at each other in a violent, like an actual violent, I'm not talking about this bullshit BLM, Antif, you know,

shit, which was horrible. Yeah. But if you, like if you, if you, if you can pit everybody against each other, this will be the most dangerous place in the world by a long shop. There isn't even a government that could infiltrate it because it will become so fucking dangerous. Why do you think... We'll, and we will just have to live in it, and then we will be, people won't even have to think about America. We'll have so many issues

killing each other, record numbers. I mean, it's just... Why do you think? think that because i think it's a multitude of things that are dividing us it's the government it's our lawmakers it's the media but why do you think that our lawmakers are still doing it if they know this we're not geniuses we're sitting here and we're just looking at it right the rhetoric i mean a lot of these lawmakers aren't that fucking smart you know i think a lot of people i think a lot of people give them a lot more credit than they're due but i mean there are some there are some special ones they're just not that sharp yeah they're not that sharp you know and and some of the ones that i see getting in there from the especially the younger ones you know i mean i i think

that they are selected because they are very easy to manipulate won't even realize they're being manipulated yeah and it's funny the reason why i pulled this out i printed out some news articles for you where the media, both independent and the old school mainstream media, are dividing this country. And I wanted to read you these titles. This is from Fox News. This is a title, not an opinion piece. Liberal journalists, Democrats bitterly seek to discredit Trump's Bronx rally.

Call it fake and made up. Okay, whatever. Let's read this. Here's an article from CNN. Excuse me, this is MSNBC. Trump is threatening to declare war. on the American people. That's a title.

Okay. It's better. You mean the only thing that people actually read? That deadline. So listen, listen. This is, I believe this is CNN. Yeah, it's CNN.

The U.S. economy has a new problem. Democracy is under siege. And this goes to show, like, what the fuck are we doing? Uh-huh. what are you trying to do we're do I mean people read that and they

that's all they read right because they get stuck in their echo chains I would bet the vast majority of people in this country do not read past the headline maybe a few sentences they all lie you know this is something I wanted to show you too this is actually great do you remember when Joe Rogan went on

during COVID and CNN aired his face Yeah, oh, you're talking about the Ivermectum thing, where they, like, made his face yellow. And this is, literally, and, you know, to this day, they deny that they did it. I know, I know. They still deny, but, like, this is my, this is my point, and this kind of all correlates to each other. They have so much influence over all of us, and a picture, a title, a color can influence

somebody i even recognize for myself i have i can influence my audience very easily i think what makes me different from a lot of other people is i'm level headed and i'm sick of it all i hate i hate just use the word hate sean i'm sick of the left and i'm sick of the right because i see through it i have this analogy i tell people you know every four years We elect a new government, right? Essentially, we get a new president. And then some new lawmakers come in and the House will either go, Democrat or Republican. I want you to picture a car rolling down a road.

Every four years, we pick who drives to the left or the right. There's only two types of people that can drive the car. We elect somebody to the left with a left government. The car is still going to go down that road. but it's going to lean a little to the left. If we elect somebody on the right, car is going to still stay down that road, but it's going to lean a little to the right.

The reality is that no matter who's in office, the status quo continues. People in this country are hungry for change, Sean. Oh, yeah. I mean, we're talking about foreign influence. I mean, have you seen that APAC advertisement pull that shit up

it's pinned to the top of their ex profile you think that's helping anybody oh man yeah it's crazy all of this shit we'll overlay it on the screen right now

yeah it's my point though that's fucking propaganda right there yeah but the thing is it's and now so listen

You're going to get shit for that right now. I don't care. No, but so listen, you're going to get shit because now people are going to say you're anti-Israel. But the thing is, it's not just Israel. It's everybody. They're all doing it. But what they do is they hound in on the one person talking about one. Okay.

I'm at the point where it's fuck them all. None of them should be able to do this. This isn't right. And the question is, how do we regulate this? what do we do? And listen, I told you, I'm not one for new laws and regulating press

and trust me, I don't want that because every time we try to do something, we end up usually going too far. But this shit can't continue. The influence can't continue. And, you know, our founding fathers geniuses when they found this country, right?

The Constitution, amazing to think of that back then. The problem is, is they didn't think about fucking meta. They didn't know Instagram. They didn't know how it could be weaponized. They were thinking in the moment. And the problem is we're so fucking divided now that there's no way that I see that we can address all these things without. I think about this all the time.

The only conclusion that I've come to is you have to just lead by example. You have to show that you can have a fucking conversation with somebody that you disagree with. And it can be a cordial, nice. conversation. Yeah. And I have a perfect example of this. I brought Gavin Newsom on, what, about two or three months ago, got obliterated by my audience. They were so fucking angry that I had him on. I don't agree. I don't agree with much of anything that that guy says. But we had a nice, cordial conversation. It was a great experience. And I wanted, I just, and so, you know, and when I took that interview, I wanted to show, hey,

You know, we don't have to fucking hate each other just because we disagree on everything. I think a lot of the things that I've seen going on in California, you live there, I don't go there because, but I think that a lot of the things that have happened there are disgusting. But I wanted to show that I can have a conversation with somebody that I don't agree with and I don't have to, I don't have to hate them the entire time. And I want to, you know what fucking came of this? We had a awesome discussion about psychedelic therapy and what it's doing for veterans. Traumatic brain injury, PTSD, addiction, all this stuff. We had a great discussion about that on the show. Yesterday, Gavin Newsom just signed a fucking bill in California that is pro-psychedelic therapy.

I literally just saw it right before I came down here for the interview between me and you. I haven't even read the whole thing yet, but I texted them. And I said, man, you know, this is really good to see. Thank you. And he said, big part of that was that discussion we had on your podcast. Yeah. You know what I mean? And so that's that, what I'm, what I'm saying here is you have to lead by example

because we can't penalize people. That's an infringement on free speech. That's an infringement on capitalistic society. You know, all you can do is be the. person to set the example and that's what i wanted to do with that interview is set an example and look i sent an example everybody fucking hated me for but look now there's policy that's happening that's benefiting people that are struggling with traumatic brain injury PTSD are veterans rape victims addicts addiction is obviously a fucking massive problem in

california right now i think that's the only way to solve the opioid fentanyl heroin an epidemic is through psychedelics. And look, it's coming to fruition. Three months later, after two people that are a complete opposite sides of the spectrum have a discussion, and he's implementing that in his state. That is fucking cool. That's how you fucking make change. And all those people giving you shit, you know what?

I would tend to argue they're stuck in those echo chambers. Exactly. And that's the problem. And you know what? Get out. Go listen to something else. Go challenge your thoughts. Because if you get stuck in these chambers, you're just festering in the shit and you might miss something.

Also, too, it goes back to what I said. We've got to get back to the place where we're treating Americans like Americans again. You might not agree with Gavin Newsom, right? But guess what? You were able to sit here and talk to him as a neighbor. And we got to get back to that. We have to because if we don't, like you said, it's going to get nasty. And it's the conversation nobody wants to have, but it's true.

Like, we can't allow this to keep cooking. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have any ideas? I've had one idea, but I've, like, how do we, how do we, it goes more into how do we break this two-party system of bullshit. Attraction is better than promotion. I've had one idea, and it could work, but then I see issues coming after that. I think we need somebody to run for office that picks a running mate that doesn't agree with them.

I don't see that happening. But they don't have to come as a complete surprise. Like, Sean. Because the RNC or the DNC. We take a Republican and we take a Democrat and we put them together. And the one thing, they might not agree on everything. But that's the whole point of our government. You have to compromise.

Well, I'm with you here. And if we took a Republican and a Democrat that could run together as just Americans, not as red, not as blue, as red, white, and blue. And we got them out there. And they worked under the common goal of just making things better and finding that middle ground. And treating each other like human beings, not as enemies, which both sides do. That's the only thing I could see fixing it.

But then the next issue is, well, now you have Congress and the Senate is controlled by Republicans and Democrats. All it takes is a bunch of them to agree on something and impeach your ass. And something I find interesting is they both sides will unify on things. Like right now, a couple of things. where's uh where's the stock trading ban why haven't we had that oh well i think we all know why we don't know you you know why it's because it goes back to my thing they're two sides of the same coin we've been if you're how long have we been hearing that someone was going to take care of our debt with 37 fucking trillion dollars in debt sean does it even matter anymore i mean fuck

it they're just going yeah it's it's it's the constant shit and it never changes and every four is we hear something else. You know, most recently, you know, the most disappointing thing that I've seen from my audience right now where they are disappointed. This whole Epstein file thing. What a...

Fuck, you had Cash Patel sitting in this chair. Are we still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? Remember that? A hoax. What? Yeah, we're still fucking talking about it. What do you think about that? I have an interesting take,

but I want to hear yours. I mean, I don't know exactly what you're talking about, but, I mean, what do I think? I think a lot of things. Why do you think right now they're not? I mean, it's, it's, you don't have to be a Democrat Republican to reveal that they're not being transparent. I think they have botched this so bad that unless it aligns with the wildest conspiracy theory out there, nobody's going to fucking believe it. Exactly. Why haven't you just released it?

Just release it. just fucking release it like what was the last thing the DOJ is not going to listen to Maxwell at all or they're not even going to like

I've heard all kinds of things I think but look we've been our government's been lying to us for decades man about everything and it's like the boy that cried

wolf you lie once lie twice lie three times eventually you start not believing somebody and they've done this to themselves. We've DMed about this recently. You had a comment on my page. You said that, you know, this is decades of the government lying. I think what's happened with this whole Epstein thing, I think there are parts of it that are true. I don't, I don't doubt that he trafficked women and there are people involved and not even women, girls, teenagers,

disgusting shit. But I often wonder, Has the theories that are out there? Have some of them been cooked up by maybe a foreign government that wants to sow more distrust? It's definitely possible. And the government. And then the question is, is this, we're all expecting all these big names to be in it.

And what if that's not, what if our expectations are here? And what we believe, what's actually there is here. And if they release it now, are you going to believe it? No, I'm not. I don't know anybody that would believe.

Right. They totally fucked it up. They botched it so fucking bad from the very beginning when the influencers went to the White House, holding up the binders like it's some kind of a trophy. Like, look at me. I'm in with the administration. Well, buddy, the administration just discredited your entire fucking career.

Yeah. Good job. And, you know, but not only that, then it was, then it was, you know, the comments. Are we still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? Yes, we are still talking about Jeffrey Epstein. you ran half your fucking campaign off getting these fires released. Of course, we're still talking about Jeffrey Epstein.

You know, then, you know, fast forward. When there was the footage, they released the footage. But, oh, there's a blip. And it's like, dude, are you fucking serious? Are you shitting me? You're going to release footage with a, with its missing fucking time? Like, get the fuck out of here with that shit. I know.

And you know what's crazy? This goes back to remember I told you about the Russian saying that, He was concerned for me and he was talking about my reality in a different way. I often wonder, this is the stuff he was talking about, this kind of shit. This is the kind of shit we're told that happens in Russia where there's minutes missing or people falling out of windows and people dying and all this crazy shit. And it's right in front of us. Like, you're right.

We're missing a minute. This guy gets allegedly commit suicide in a maximum security prison. they don't have the first i thought at one point we didn't even have tapes tapes aren't showing up but now like there's so many issues the bureau of prisons report that they released uh is contradicting itself now based on the video that we've now seen i mean like and even to this day you know the thing that really drives me nuts is like we had we have people in the FBI now that previously talked about

getting to the bottom of this and being transparent and being real. You had Cash Patel sit here. Although I know. I'm very aware. And like, look what they're saying. It goes back to the same thing. It's like, man, dude, this is, and you know what's crazy too is the Democrats are riding this.

They're saying, look, we want the Fstein files. You know what? And the question to them is, where were you four years ago? You guys were in charge? Yeah. you know but the shitty part is Sean now it's being weaponized on all sides yeah yeah nobody wants to figure it out and here's the reality there's a bunch of young children teenagers that got tied up into the shit and it's now just being used as political points and baggage

what people just are mysteriously dying now too i mean one just got smacked with a bus one of the victims right just got smacked guilt with a bus yeah yeah And it's, I mean, like, what the fuck? So, you know, I think nobody's going to believe it unless it's why I say nobody's that's why they're screwed unless it aligns with the wildest conspiracy out there. But I mean, you know, I mean, I don't know. What do you think it was? I look at it.

I've interviewed Nick Bryan a couple of times. I've talked to, you know, Buck Sexton about it. I mean, the biggest thing that I see on the internet is that people are saying that Epstein had ties. to the Mossad and all this shit. Looks pretty likely. I've often wondered, and I'm not doubting that, but I've often asked myself, is this even bigger than that?

And you know this. You were in the CIA. The CIA cannot target American citizens, right? You're not allowed to touch Americans, whether it's gaining intelligence on them or whatever. It has to go through with other agencies and there's a whole process. I've often asked my,

myself, if maybe this was a broader operation between a bunch of foreign intelligence agencies, maybe like the Five Eyes, for example, something like that, where a bunch of intel agencies were working together, maybe to unfortunately compromise lawmakers in their countries and abroad so that that could be used as weight to get people to vote a certain way or approve funding for certain programs. And, you know, so you can't, a U.S. agency can't touch a U.S. lawmaker, but one from the U.K. can. I mean, Israel can. I mean, I've thought that. I've thought. This is such a thorn in this administration's side that if it was not going away, too.

If it was kind of what you're saying, you know, what if it was down here, you know, what if everybody's expecting this? What if it's, I just, I don't know. I could see that. But at the other hand, it's like, this is such, this has become such a problem. I think it's jeopardized the midterms. I think it'll jeopardize the next election for the Republican. For sure. I think that this good, I think the Republican Party will pay dearly for how this was, how this has been handled. But, you know, there is a way to make it right.

Just fucking release them. And if it's not that bad, just fucking release it. But you got to wonder what's what it is. It's got to be so bad that they're willing to literally, I mean, like, I watched Cash Patel at that FBI hearing. I thought to myself, what did he say to himself when he got home that night and closed the door? Because he, I mean, fuck, dude, he's just sitting there just. And the thing is, he was acting the same way as the previous directors and how they were all deceiving. And they just, you know, they don't even answer questions.

and they just, they dance around everything, and it goes back to my same point. It's like, it's the same bullshit. Yeah, yeah, and it's all day. Well, let's take a quick break. When we come back, I want to talk about some of these bot farms and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah.

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So it's interesting. For people that don't know, bots are accounts, whether it's on X, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, whatever. There are accounts that are not real people that might comment something. and there's usually three motives behind what they're commenting. The first type of bots, the most common ones that we see today are the, they're the only fans, porn bots that are trying to, they'll comment on a post and try to hope that somebody sees that and gets horny and goes to that site, right?

So that's the first one. Those are nefarious, nothing bad, not too nefarious. The second type of bot, which we've been seeing, is bots that will pop up and they'll comment about an unfortunate situation. Maybe they're in a war zone. The most common one I've been seeing recently is people will claim they're in Gaza and they'll have a GoFundMe and they'll say, please help me. You know, my family is dying in Gaza, click my page and go to my GoFundMe. and you click these accounts and depending on the level

sophistication of the bot it clearly will either look like a fake page or they look really real so and then there's the next level of bot which is the one that I'm concerned about

and these are bots that comment about topics news so internally and I've never talked about this ever let's say for example

we post a news article on Instagram and right when we hit post there will be four or five comments right after I hit refresh four or five article or five paragraph article with a headline

I hit refresh it's three seconds. There's a two sentence comment about that topic. Sean, that's humanly impossible. So the question is, what are they trying to do? We have restricted our Instagram approximately 1,000 accounts. Restricting means if we find somebody to comment something so fast. And we're not talking a word. I'm talking sentences within a second or two. That means you're a bot. There's something that's not genuine about you. And we've got about a thousand accounts over the three years that we started doing that. And what scares the shit out of me, Sean, is when I look at those accounts. Some of them clearly look fake. I have found accounts,

Sean that looked like real fucking people to the point where a perfect example we had an article about the war in Ukraine and it was giving both sides of Russia and Ukraine and this guy comments three sentences within I'm talking seconds about how Ukraine something about Nazis and Ukraine or whatever and I'm like this is human. the impossible click his profile look at him he's tagging his wife and pictures click his wife his wife has an account 600 followers oh wow yeah dude wow these are sophisticated bot networks that have been set up by foreign actors and and this isn't new okay but a lot of people don't realize this like every couple months meta will come out or uh Microsoft does the

these reports, well, they'll say, we've, we identified all these bot networks, and then they start shutting them down. Or meta will announce they took down 5,000 accounts or whatever. But people don't understand the scale of it. So you might read a news article instead of, you might read a headline, and then instead of reading the article, you just go to the comments to what people are saying. They're trying to influence how you think in a comment. Now, the crazy thing is you might be arguing with somebody.

That's not even real. Yep. And they're gaslighting you. You were talking about, you got shit for having Gavin Newsom on here. I wonder how many of those people were just, maybe not real people that were just trying to divide. I'm not saying they all.

I'm sure there's a ton of them. Yeah. And what they do is they're trying to stir up shit. The funny thing, because we've restricted some accounts, um, we'll have, and I'll show you how it looks,

But it's basically, I can see their comment, but nobody else can see it. And I have to approve to allow it. We've had other bot accounts comment on our post tagging, like, as if they're responding to you. So it would be like at Sean Ryan, 762, right? But they can't see that original comment. So it just came up as a populated response to nothing. So it tells me that's a bot too. you're saying that they are responding to the bot that's restricted that they wouldn't be able to see

yes holy but they don't because it's all automated i don't know if you've seen those videos and i'll send you them there's like literally fucking rooms full of phones yeah have you seen it yeah i've seen i don't understand exactly how they are working i don't understand without somebody behind the actual device well i think it's an ai i would assume yeah i don't know the Did you see that one in New York recently? You guys covered that, I think. It wasn't bots. That was somebody trying to take down cell towers.

Some communication disruptor or something. That's fucking crazy. How many phones was it? It wasn't actual phones. They had some sort of system that allowed them to duplicate, like, 100,000 phone numbers in some way. I don't know if it was duplicate or they could, they could, make 100,000 phone calls and what their idea was is they were going to shut down Manhattan's communications that's fucking crazy and let me tell you something that's not some little gang

or a cartel that is somebody trying to do some shit that's a foreign adversary a hundred percent and you know what we haven't heard a thing about that of course we haven't yeah not a word makes you wonder like i mean i hate to talk about shit like this but i don't think people realize like how vulnerable our daily life is to shit like that oh man power grid you know like we're going off a little tangent here but china's been embedding in u.s critical infrastructure for decades the something i love to do and i encourage everybody to do it is I really watch these hearings with these top generals on Capitol Hill. I watch them religiously every second because you kind of get an idea as to what's going on.

And there was a general who went up that said that how they view it as China has been embedding themselves in U.S. critical infrastructure with the goal of that if there was ever a conflict to break out, it would slow a U.S. response down because it would create chaos within. Because everybody's dependent on all this shit, you know? And it's goes back to what we were talking about earlier, which was nobody trusts anybody. You know, it's, um, and it's sad. It's because if most people just want to, want to just grow up sorry i get emotional because it sucks most people just want to raise a

family and live yeah but you can't sad man it is and it's not just i want to be clear it's not just americans the world you think people in the middle east want this shit that's going on right now people just want to live yeah but what we've got i tell my friends this it's you've got nine countries eight or nine that sit at a table big long table and everybody that sits at that table is a country that has a gun what i mean by that that Those are countries that have nuclear weapons, okay? The nine countries, China, North Korea, Russia, India, Pakistan, the UK, France, the United States, and the one that everyone, we don't know, is Israel. I think they have one.

Those people think of it as a person, the country. Sit at this table. Some have the gun on the table to show it off. Some have it holstered. The ones that scare me, Sean, are the ones that have their hands under the table. You know why? Because you don't know if I'm pointing a gun at you. With everything that's going on in this world right now, the stocking of satellites,

the embedding and critical infrastructure. The supply chain, the fentanyl crisis, the buy. Buying our farmland, buying land next to military bases. I mean, it goes on and on the propaganda, the bot farms. I mean, influencing us. On and on and on. I have questioned, Sean. This is hard to say.

But I don't know. I don't know if. Fuck, dude. there's so much distrust and people don't realize it how bad it is right now every second every minute all it takes is one fucking thing and that could be it now what we hope is that those nine people at that table aren't fucking crazy but let me tell you something guess who's sitting at that table just one example got kim jong un sitting there he's fucking crazy you know that's just some people will then say well maybe his gun doesn't work okay are you comfortable with someone pointing a gun at you that might not work there's people that are more flamboyant about it and there's people that aren't I've questioned because of the way the world's going everybody's arming up is my generation going to get to live their full potential

It's tough. Everybody's worried about that, man. It is, dude. Because this is something I really believe in. Dude, people just want to live. Like, I've heard you talk about, you went to war for what? You have your feelings? You were wondering why you were out there?

same thing what are where we're totally off topic but how far are people willing to go and i don't know i really don't know but based on everything i'm seeing dude it's fucking crazy it's fucking crazy and um we've got to get i don't even the thing is is how do we even fix that there's so much distrust everybody's spying on everybody everybody's embedding in each other's shit it's a cluster fuck dude how do you fix that right now the only fix to that that we've been using is deterrence that's okay we're making all this shit and open we never have to use it and what's fucked Sean is if we want to stop they won't same stuff with like AI look at this AI shit right now it's being

weaponized has to be right we don't have an option because if we don't do it China's going to do it. Yep. Russia's going to do it. Everybody's doing it. So we're fucked. We have to do it. Yep.

But look at what comes with that. You know, I always tell people, the number one thing that guarantees, that I believe guarantees are freedoms. in this country is that at the end of the day let's say God forbid something happened and this country had an issue where the military was directed to do things that were unconstitutional to us that would take our rights away at the end of the day there's

one thing that stops a ridiculous order and our every day life, and something impacting our everyday life. And you know what that is? A soul. Okay. If a soldier, at the end of the day that they have a heart, they have a soul, they have a mind. With the way we're going, man, we're getting into the world where is that even going to be necessary anymore?

Can you just take an order and it just does it? You know? You ever thought about that? That we're, we're. We got all these countries now that are using robotics and they're arming all these robots. Fuck, could you imagine what it would look like if one of these countries had a coup from within? With AI? What the fuck does the world do?

And all these AI wizards and tech guys, I'm not a tech guy and these guys might dog on me and say this guy has no idea what the fuck he's talking about. Okay, cool. What's your plan for that? Well, it can never happen. How? There's guardrails. Everybody can break a guard row. Fuck, AI is right now thinking for itself.

Did you hear the story that was, I think it was, I don't know if it was Google or who it was. They had to shut down an AI that they were testing because they told the AI that they were going to shut it down because it wasn't working well. And they were kind of just egging it on. And it threatened to blackmail one of the developers. Was that real? I couldn't tell if that was real. I read it was real. whole shit yeah it was an a it was a report that they released i forgot the group's name

and when i saw that i said are you fucking kidding me i think this is what i think i think it is a game of patience and this is going to sound bad oh fuck it but i think this is going to be a game of patience i think that the older generations are going to have to disappear you know it's a matter of time just everybody fucking dies right i think the older generations uh as they start to die off you know i think the younger generations are more in tune with what's going on at least that's my view of things they see i think they're sick of it they see they have total complete distrust in mainstream media they don't trust any of the government institutions that you have the older generations that they can't rep their head around

the fact that the news outlets that they've been watching for 75 years are fucking lying to them and likely have been the entire time. Yeah. That their entire world has been flipped upside down and they aren't, they don't, they just don't understand it. I mean, just like the thing you just showed me, a 93-year-old woman or 83-year-old woman posting an AI video thinking it's real. And then under all the comments, those people all think it's real too. I mean, it's very unfortunate, but you're not going to reframe.

you know, 65 years old plus, you're not going to reframe that mind. It's just their entire world has been flipped upside down. Tech is just advancing at a rapid pace and they're not going, it's, they're not going to get it. It's crazy where it's going. I think that, I think that, you know, the way, I think that the younger generation is more in tune with this, you know, probably millennial generation and down. Yeah. you know and and uh that's that's i think it's a waiting game unfortunately i also think you know that people need to be a little bit more accepting a little bit less judgmental a little bit more

willing to poke holes in their own fucking stories yeah i see a lot of people that are unwilling to do any self-reflection and poke holes in their own stories and that is detrimental that is fucking absolutely detrimental when you have somebody that is 100% bought and sold on what they are seeing on X and are unwilling to self-reflect and poke holes in their own stories that person is now gone to and and I mean you always you just always have to be willing to poke holes in your own bullshit and you know you don't see a lot of that today either but that's kind of that's what I think and I think people need to lean out too you know I think people just becomes their life.

They go challenge. You've got to challenge what you're seeing. People are spending seven hours a day on social media. Yeah. You know. Getting cooked up what the algorithm wants them to see. Yep. Yep.

Yeah. And it just pigeonholes you more and more and more. The more time you spend on it, the more learns about you. It's crazy how much power that is. Yeah. You can literally move somebody to do anything. But it has no power if we go back to human connection. can we get there honestly i've thought about that i don't remember the days where when i

grew up i really tell you much about when i grew up but i um i remember the days man you would go knock on your neighbor's door to play with them and shit do shit like that play sock yeah stuff still goes on but remember the days where you would actually like make plans with your friends and hang out with them and go you know all that stuff is like it's and those were like private moments now everything has to be publicized and thrown on social media and

it's weird how like man our childhood what it was and what it is now it's just different but I do see that there's a drive among some people to try to give their children that are being born today that same childhood away from the iPad not giving

the kid the iPad and you know the bullshit it's happening all the time And I just had Trey Stevenson, co-founder of Van Dural. Because kids don't have any devices. Really? Major, major tech guy. You see how sad, too, I was at a dinner recently, and it was an older woman, maybe in her 90s, and she was sitting there with her two, I would assume they were her grandkids,

fucking stuck in the phone while she's eating. Oh, man, I see it all the time. And, you know, I thought to myself, like, fuck. And I just, I mean, we're all on borrowed time. You know, those kids will grow up and they'll regret that. Those moments that you're just fucking stuck in some little virtual box. Yeah. You know?

Yeah. Yeah. Sucks, dude. It's pretty sad. It's pretty sad. But there's a lot of good stuff going on in the world. too. But you'll never see it if you don't lean out of digital.

But get out in your fucking community. Touch grass. Not everybody hates you. I see it all over this town. Yeah. So, but, well, hey, as we wrap this up. Yeah. And you have been judging media outlets, big ones, small ones, independent ones,

mainstream ones, how do you think we're doing? I think you're doing a good job, Sean. And, you know, you brought up, you brought on Gavin Newsom. I'll be honest with you. I prior to, I don't keep up with all your stuff religiously. Just because life gets crazy, man. Hey, I get it. I can barely keep up with my shit.

But I catch one every once in a while. My brother, though, he's, that's why he's here, he wanted to meet you. But I had this impression of you originally that you were more right-leaning. I don't know why. That's just how I absorbed it originally. And over time, as I listened to you, I've seen that I was wrong. And I think how I view you and what you're doing here is you're trying to have a real conversation with people. And you bringing on Gavin Newsom, I think, was really the pinnacle of you showing that you're not an echo chamber.

You're open to people challenging new ideas. I've seen some of your podcasts where you have somebody on, talk shit on somebody else, and then you let that other person that was getting shit talk, come on in. You know, and I think that's important, and that's good, and you're facilitating that, and that's what I think we need it. We need to, people need to be able to have a conversation again. You know, there's guys from the left and guys from the right

that all have great ideas. Some of them are bad. Some of them are good. But at the end of the day, we should be able to sit down and have a conversation about it. You know? And I think that's what you're doing here.

I think you're allowing people to come in here and open up and talk. Fuck, I mean, you've had some amazing guests. I told you, it's crazy I'm sitting here because I really, I mean, you've had some truly top-tier guests. Fuck, you had Tom Homan in this chair crying. It's a tough man. You know, you got me to tear up a little bit in here.

It's just how I feel. You've had everybody from all walks of life, and you've even brought in people from different countries that maybe have some different views than what we're all told here. And I think that's important. I think you're truly someone that's independent, and you're kind of going down your road, and you're open to all ideas.

And that's the same thing with me. I'm I I we're both artists we just paint a picture and put a bunch of color on it and let people figure it out that's just what you've been doing and I hope you continue to do that I hope that you um you know bringing people it'll be cool something that we're going to do is I want to start bringing in Republican and Democratic lawmakers over for dinner and talk about America while they cook some food.

Wouldn't that be cool? That would be great. I think that would be sick. I have AOC and Marjorie Taylor Green in the kitchen. That's right. I might get fucking canceled for that. Or like a republic, you know, and cook a meal and have a conversation

about America. I think you're doing that on a much larger scale, bringing people in and having that conversation. We need to have more of that. We need to have more of that. We need to have more, less of the loud, noisy bullshit and more of just people connecting on a human level as Americans. The human connection. It's important.

We've got to get back to that. And if we don't, it's not good. I hope people take that away from that too. Really get out of your echo chambers. you don't have to like my news I could give two fucks go fine stay where you're at

but challenge yourself they have to realize they're in an echo chamber first a lot of people still don't realize it if you watch Fox News please take 30 minutes out of your day and I know it's hard to do

turn on MSNBC just turn it on challenge yourself yeah same thing goes with the people watching on SNBC. I know it's hard. 30 minutes. Just reinforce what you believe because you would be surprised there's much more that unites us than divides on both sides. You just don't realize it because people get... She just goes back to you. You have to be willing to poke holes in your own story.

True. Well, John, I love what you're doing, man. I appreciate it. Been following you for a long time. I'll continue to do it. Dude, you got to make the newsletter. You got to make the newsletter. Newsletter. So what? It's just, uh... There's your subscription.

Yeah? The newsletter. Just a newsletter that people get out of the news from. Just a little bit more detail. Got it. But... One more thing to do, man. Hey, you got to expand, right?

Yeah. You're not growing. You're dying. But, hey, man. Pleasure to meet you. Nice to meet you. Thank you. And real news, no bullshit.

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no matter how uncomfortable the questions are that we have to ask. But in the age of the SIOP, that search has never been more difficult. In September of 2022, the U.S. Army's fourth PSYOP group released a cryptic video on Two. There is another very important phase of warfare. It has as its target, not the body, but the mind of the enemy. Between clips of troops assembling chess pieces and social unrest, phrases begin to appear on screen.

They ask, have you ever wondered who's pulling the strings? These are the Cy War soldiers. The series you're about to listen to is an attempt to answer that question, and an even bigger one. The global power brokers that conduct psychological operations constantly evolve. Technology like AI has evened the playing field, and now, in the era of social media, in the democratization of information, all it takes to conduct a sci-op is a smartphone. Like and subscribe.

In each episode, we look at a different method of psychological operations, how they've evolved, and how they are being deployed. There's a quote that is attributed to a scientist named E.O. Wilson that says, we are drowning in information while starving for wisdom. This is a life raft in that sea of both information and misinformation. Sciops are all around us. They're conducted by corporations, governments, activist groups, intelligence agencies, foreign adversaries, and anyone who knows how to shape perception to get what they want. The series provides an in-depth look at how these siops work from conversations with whistleblowers, experts, historians, tech innovators, and more.

We look at world events that are being shaped by highly constructed psychological operations specialists. And look at the terrifying possibilities of where this could all be headed. Along the way, you'll learn about everything from Russian troll farms, fake ghosts in the jungles of Vietnam, mind control cults to the CIA's involvement in Hollywood. Do you have any people paid by the CIA who are working for television networks? The early history of Psiops and psychological experiments laid the foundation for what we see today in modern campaigns that seek to divide culture over polarizing issues. We look at where we are and how we got here. But ultimately, this series is a toolkit to help you understand how you're being manipulated

and how to spot the signs of a PSYOP. Before the Army's viral SIOP recruitment video ends, the words on screen inform viewers that war is evolving and all the world's a stage. This series is a peek behind the curtain. Welcome to the SIOP. Buy it today at sciopshow.com.