Shawn Ryan Show - #266 Dr. Dan Schneider - Ancient Weapons Used Against Demons: Vigils, Fasting and Prayer

Episode Date: December 29, 2025

Dr. Dan Schneider is an Adjunct Professor of Theology at Franciscan University of Steubenville and an Associate Staff Member at the St. John Henry Newman Research Centre for Theology at Maryvale Institute in Birmingham, England. A former U.S. Army attack helicopter pilot, Gulf War veteran, and amateur boxer, Schneider has nearly two decades of experience in Catholic evangelization and teaching. As a founding member of Liber Christo, a movement with Fr. Chad Ripperger, he provides resources for priests and laity in the apostolate of deliverance and exorcism. Schneider is the author of The Liber Christo Method: A Field Manual for Spiritual Combat (TAN Books, 2023), offering practical “guerrilla warfare” tactics for spiritual battles, including five key strategies: Renunciation of Evil Influences, Repentance, Examination of Conscience, Learning Power and Authority, and Prayer. A sought-after speaker, he advocates for sacramental living and spiritual discipline to combat diabolical influences, drawing on his military and theological expertise. Shawn Ryan Show Sponsors: Join thousands of parents who trust Fabric to help protect their family—apply today in just minutes at https://meetfabric.com/SHAWN. Go to https://helixsleep.com/srs for 27% Off Sitewide https://USCCA.com/srs https://bubsnaturals.com – USE CODE SHAWN Dr. Dan Schneider Links: The Liber Christo Method - https://tanbooks.com/products/books/the-liber-christo-method-a-field-manual-for-spiritual-combat/?afmc=7e Spiritual Warfare Q & A - https://tanbooks.com/products/books/spiritual-warfare-q-and-a-for-priests-and-laity/?afmc=7e The Sins of the Father - https://tanbooks.com/products/books/sins-of-the-father-a-catholic-and-biblical-approach-to-generational-curses/?afmc=7e Holy League Institute - https://holyleagueinstitute.com General inquires, email and web page - [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Dr. Dan Schneider, welcome back to the show, man. Thanks, Sean. Good to see you again. Good to see you. I feel like I'm back home. Well, that's good. Yeah, it's good to have you here in the new studio. So this is your second appearance. And, man, your first one was eye-opening, not only for me, but for at least a million other people. And as soon as you left, we pretty much, we had a little side conversation.

I don't know if you remember, we were like, oh, we should have gone into all this other stuff. So you're back. Yeah. And to dive into all that other stuff. So I'm excited about it. I'm a little scared about it. Taking a peek at what we're talking about. I'm like, man, this is all the stuff that I've been wondering about.

So I'm ready. Yeah. getting just trying to get down to the the root of things as we were talking about just get down to the basics where does this stuff come from what's what's going on yeah so this is going to be all about spiritual warfare demons spells all that kind of the the old gods the old gods and um and uh it's going to be a heavy but very educational interview yeah so but but you need no introduction and uh i know you want to kick it off with a prayer and uh so do i so do i so I'll let you, uh...

All right, I'll start this. God, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, amen. Hell, Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed are thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen. St. Michael, the archangel defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil.

May God rebuke him, we humbly pray, and do thou, O prince of the heavenly hosts by the power of God, cast into hell, Satan, and all the evil spirits who proud about the world, seek in the ruin of souls. Amen. Amen. Lord Jesus Christ, and your love of mercy, establish a perimeter of protection around us. All of our loved ones, those who pray for us and their loved ones,

may their holy angels guard us and all our possessions. Establishing a perimeter protection around me and Sean and all of us here, renting us immune from any kind of demonic influence. We ask that no demonic bondage, door, portron, demonic entity, portal, astral projection, or disembide spirit,

enter the space of 100 yards in all directions of us. We ask the name of demons within this vicinity, and he should try to enter here, be rendered deaf, dumb, and blind, that that would strip them of all weapons, armor, power, illusions, and authority, that that would bind rebuke and disable them from communicating or interacting with each other in any way, remove them, sending them directly to foot of thy cross, Jesus, son of the most high. I ask this and I glorish the most holy name. Amen. And Father, Son, the Holy Spirit. Amen.

St. Clair of the Sisi, pray for us. Thank you. Thank you for that. You got to lay down the perimeter. That's right. You have no idea how effective that prayer is. Just a perimeter prayer. well I got a feeling we're about to find out so um so you you you have a new book out correct spiritual warfare Q&A spiritual Q&A it was just in it was just finishing up the summer and as that came out to print about a month ago and I've got another one coming out um that I just did the final

edits on that should be out in a couple months I think that they might have a link I put in the show notes on on generational what's called generational curse or generational spirits it's kind of a, I had a colleague in England tell me, another scholar, you know, he said, I can't believe you touched that topic. And so. Why? Nobody, it's just. We talk about that all the time. And here and with my team. Yeah. It's got a lot of members on the team that come from generational trauma that have broken the, that have broken the curse. Right. And so, but it's, it's one of those things that, that it's like what we call the, Senses Fidelium, the sense of the faithful.

The average guy understands there's some connection with our past, and there's some familiar garbage. And so, but they can't put their finger on what it is. And so there's a lot of misconceptions and bad theology. So I just try to put some good theology and good biblical research on it. And so that one, I think, is going to be out in about two months. I'd love to talk about that right now.

Sure. I mean, what, we call it generational trauma. That's just what we call it here. You call it generational curse. Curse or spirit. What do you think it is? So. Because we see this.

And so for anybody listening, I mean, you see these, you see it all over the world. You see families of, you know, grandpa was a drug addict. Right. Dad was a drug addict. Son's a drug addict. And his son's a drug addict. Yeah. Dad was a wife beater.

Son's a wife beater. That son's, you know what I mean? It's, yeah, homosexuality, cheating, violence, divorce, you know. Fill in your blank, yeah. Mom was addicted to crack, son was addicted to crack, daughter's addicted, you know what I mean? And so you see this, you see this everywhere.

Yeah. And, yeah, so I am curious. I mean, so you think this is from a spiritual aspect? Well, yes and no. There's basically three types of curses. There's, there's, we'll get, and later into the preternatural. There's a preternatural cursing, which is a mockery of the sacraments and sacramental system of the Catholic faith. And so there's rituals that are, that they do,

that invoke preternatural entities, which we would call demons. There's natural, there's natural, preternatural, and generational will be the three broadstroke types. It's like saying there's three types of sailors, there's three types of Marines, whatever. They're all, they all wear the same uniform, but they have a different M-OS. The natural curses is the, you know, they have no efficacy, you know. Somebody says, Sean Ryan's a jerk, gives you the finger, you know, somebody tells you're number one. My wife says, I'm a terrible driver. I drive like I'm still flying a helicopter, she says, so I get told I'm number one a lot, you know. So there's no, there's no agency. There's no supernatural agency in that, or preternatural agency. So, you know, natural curses. But then you

had this third category of generational. And we have to think of generational in the sense of inherited. You know, I just met my first billionaire a couple weeks ago on a podcast, a really nice lady. And so inherited as an inherited wealth, you know. So it's something that travels down the family line as part of the inheritance. And curse, not in the active agency curse like like witches and other things doing curses that are actively invoking foreign, you know, deities or demons. But it's curses the absence of the protection and provision that comes with blessing. And so when Jesus, for example, in the Sea of Tiberius, this is what Pope Benedict likened it to the authority structure of governance, if you have an office, whether it's head of household

as like you and I, you know, a husband and a father, a priest or a pastor, or a head of an organization like this organization, you have an obligation with that office to provide and to protect. And so the two ends of the authority structure of provision and protection, just like Jesus at the Sea of Tiberius, do you love me, feed my lambs, tend my sheep. So telling Peter and the church, but it also applies to us. And so to feed, to provide, and to tend to protect. And when someone commits a grave sin in the familial construct that abuses that authority, particularly we see it in cases of incest, in a case of possession where the incest was involved, which is particularly egregious, then that family construct now lacks the provision

and the protection that comes with blessing. And so there's a lot of debate, and I'm trying to gauge the debate. You know, there's some, some will say, no, God doesn't mean that anymore when he said, at Sinai, when he gave the law, I will visit the sins of the father upon the children right to the third and fourth generation and what's interesting in that visit visit you hear that language it's like after the show you hear that i'm bad-mouthed in you and and you're going to say i want to have to go pay old dan a little visit you know it isn't like i'm going to go visit with you it's it's to an exact a penalty a punishment make satisfaction and so and so in the familial construct because the children this is st thomas aquinas because the children are part of the

goods of the father, property of the father, the sins of the father, the punishment of the father can fall upon the children. So there's two punishments for sin, the spiritual punishment and the natural punishment. So the natural spiritual punishment, you and you alone pay for your sins, you alone pay for them. But the effect, that's the spiritual punishment? The spiritual. The effect of the punishment is, can pass down to the children and that generation. It's inherited in that sense. And we know that logically, you know, a truck driver stops on this way home and stopped over, the dude drop in, and he has a couple boilermakers, and he gets his drink on, drives home, and then commits vehicular homicide. He alone goes to jail for that sin. He alone is punished for that sin. But he loses his CDL. He's no longer living at home. Mom now has to go to work to provide. He's not providing, and he's not there to protect them. That is what the biblical understanding of curse is.

It's the privation of the protection and the provision that comes with blessing. It's the, okay. The effect of the sin. The sin itself, that's where the misconception is. The sin itself doesn't pass down, but the effect of the sin. Oftentimes, it's repeated, though, because the children do have, and there is, some sins are just copied. This isn't necessarily some type of a demon or, or, you know, evil entity attached to your genome yes and no um the church fathers some some of the and some of the

reaction it's a it's a it's a reaction to an action it's it's it's that you didn't do it's not deterministic but the effect of the sin carries down and to purify the family of the sin god allows a demon or an angel to punish the sin and the father the father sits in jail for his truck driving incident his drink drive drunk driving incident and he sees his children suffer and in that does penance and the children suffer for the sins of the father and and offer their suffering up for the father to break it so it's the effect of the sin and not the sin itself the sin you know the sin itself because if i we don't generate a sin in our children we only generate original sin that we're all born under right even original sin is a privation of the blessing and protection that comes with that original man had we have a

question though i mean so if if the okay so if i if i commit a sin and i'm punished for that sin and that the the reaction for the punishment of that son of that sin carries down to my kids i mean i under and that is part of my punishment correct part of my punishment is to have to sit there and watch the effects of my sins yeah sin there's a affect my family right right but so what i want to ask you is i mean that would be a uh tremendous that would be a horrible punishment for me it would be worse than sitting in jail watching my kids get fucked up or you know and but when i think of evil people when i think of i mean we're going to talk about people that eat babies and cannibalism and human sacrifice and all this kind of

stuff on this podcast when i when i think of somebody like that that that has that you know that that that they could muster up the amount of evil that it takes to do something like that. I mean, I don't think that, I don't feel like that's a punishment because they don't care. They don't care about their kids. They're molesting their kids. They're raping their kids. They're raping their kids. They're starving their kids.

Locking them in closets. And worse. And so what, and so that's going to get carried down to that innocent kid. And then that innocent kid is going to act the exact same way because the example that was set by his father. Yeah, so there is, there is, there's always the interplay between nature, nurture, you know, and raising children. Some sins are going to be imitated because they see the father and they compound the father's wickedness. But this is, we're talking about something different here. Here we're talking about the sin itself and the effect of the sin, and so the spiritual

and the temporal effect, and that even sins that have been made satisfaction for still have a temporal effect. So on the way out, I get upset and I get mad and I smash up one of the cars, you know, and break the windows. I'm upset about something. Sean was disrespectful to me and I break the windows in your car, right? And you're a good dude. You're a good Christian man and you all right. I come back. I drive back and say, hey, Sean, I'm really sorry. I broke the windows in your car. Shake my hand. I forgive you. Right. I get back in my car. I start to drive away, but you're going to say, hey, whoa, whoa, hey, Dan, get your checkbook out. Someone's got to replace the windows.

So that's the effect of the sin means the satisfaction needs to be made, and it can be made. At times, not always, it's not deterministic. And you're getting into curses and Freemasonic cursing is other things. Sometimes it isn't deterministic meaning it isn't, if this happens, then this will happen. If you do this, this will happen. It's all under God's providence. When God wants satisfaction made for those sins, he looks for someone, when we see people, people that are possessed, for example, that come to the church for help, you know, we don't look at it as, as the, God is asking this person to be Christ, to be Jesus Christ in their family, to break this once for all in their family. So, so in the satanic families, then they're rare, but they're out there, but that's really kind of a different thing. You're getting into a whole different category. The average person on this topic of an inherited guilt, that's the technical term. You know, the church father. St. Augustine really hammered this out.

when he hammered out the doctrine of the original sin that we inherit, not necessarily an active poisoning, but also a privation of the original goods that God bestowed on man in his image and likeness. And so we inherit original sin, but all sin's going to follow that pattern. All sin follows that same pattern.

And the effect of that was separation from God, right? They dispelled from the garden, and then the effect on the children. Cain kills Abel, the two sons of Adam, the oldest son kills the second son. And so we see the physical effect of the original sin. I mean, the spiritual effect, in the sense, they're separated from God completely, but then the effect rolls into the family. David, pattern with King David, the same thing.

He commits a grave sin with Bashiba. The child of that union dies, and a ripple effect falls down into his family. He does penance. God blesses the family. okay it's is that makes sense yeah yeah now it's it's you know um and the angels whether it's a fallen angel saint bonaventure says that god let's wider demons god allow demons to afflict us saint bonaventure a good doctor of the church says um to punish sin to rebuke the sinner to educate us and to glorify god so when we when we battle these things these garbage in our family um then then sin is being

punished the effect of that sin the temporal effect the the windows are being paid for so to speak god is getting you know well we're we're educating getting educated hey when i i have to control my this or that i have to become holier in my christian life um he's rebuking us you know he's god is showing us hey you're you're messing with some things that you should not mess with and he's rebuked us to bring us back to the way of truth and then ultimately god is being glorified when we conquer this sin, this vice, this, this demon that is afflicting our family by God's allowance to punish sin or we invited it in, then God is glorified. When you say, you know, when you're talking about, just a couple minutes ago, you're talking

about a family, you know, somebody that breaks the curse. You need to be, I think you've said, you need to be Jesus Christ. You need to break the curse for your family. I mean, how, I mean, I've seen the curse broken several times, but how do they, I mean, for what you're talking about, how do they know what to break? Yeah, when, how do they know what cycle, what curse to break? Yeah, I might not even realize they're in one. Right. We recognize patterns in our families.

Again, you're just a repurposed operator, and I'm just a repurpose CalfS, you know and we we all seem to recognize patterns um jesus gave us what really stuck in my crawl and besides seeing possessed children um and as part of our caseload um was i think it's mark chapter nine um jesus comes down the mountain he's revealed to the to the to the apostles some of the apostles go at the mountain transfiguration this is my beloved son listen to him He comes down the mountain, there's a big fight going on, and he walks into a crowd, and there's a father with his son, and the son was manifesting, and Jesus drives a demon out, and he drives a demon out, and the apostles ask him, why couldn't we drive it out? The father says, I've been trying to, your apostles tried to drive it out, and they couldn't. Why couldn't we drive it out?

And Jesus looks at the apostles and the father. Well, first he looks at the father, and he says, how long has this been happening? The Greek is ex-Pydeothan, which means an emphatic from infancy or the youngest youngest childhood, aben fancian, from infancy in Latin, is the Latin translation, from his infancy, from early, early childhood. He's been possessed by a demon. Why couldn't we drive it out? He said this type can only come out.

This Janos, we get the word generation or type, can only be driven out through prayer and fasting. And some biblical translation, some versions use other. manuscripts that don't have the word fasting, it's a debated clause. It was in St. Augustine, St. Jerome, the Dewey Rames, the Latin Vulgate, most translations still carry it, depending on which manuscript they're using, prayer and fasting, so certain types. So there's going to have to be a prayerful element and an engagement bodily, because the punishment often fits the crime. And so if that spirit is the spirit of infidelity or impurity, then you have to militate

against that with purity, chastity, perhaps celibacy for a time, to break that, you know. I was in a session about a year ago, and the demon looks around in the room, and he's just trying to get in, just like, you know how it works. It's all siops, and he's trying to get in everybody's head, and he looks around and he said, there's lust in this room. I can smell it, you know. So he's given us. Now, if he's only speaking because God's making him give us information, everybody was like,

oh, my gosh, is it, is it you? Is it you? It's not me, you know? You know what I mean? He's just trying to get in our hands. He's farted. Like, exactly. It's just trying to get into head. But he's telling us two things.

He's revealing something that we have to. This team, in union with this priest, we're going to have to do more fasting if we want to help this person. And also this person. What does that mean? I smell lust in this room. There's an exorcism going on. Right. Who's thinking about lust?

Nobody. Right? But he could smell it on the people there. And it could be, it could be, he's just talking about the person that we call the ennergerman, the possessed person. It could be talking about that. It could be talking about her husband that was there. You never know. But he, or he could just be making stuff up just to try to get in our heads.

Yeah. But if he said it, okay, then God, it's because God forced it out of him. So are you saying that you would need an exorcist or somebody to tell you what penance is for the sin that your father? No, no, no. You look at the defect. You know, and I put it in the other, the Lieber Christo manual book, I cite in that a modern psychologist that says, if you can name it, you can tame it, talking about the human emotions. If you can name the emotion of anger, of depression, of shame, you can begin to tame it in modern psychology, okay? And by extension, that is true in the spiritual life.

If you can name the defect, you can tame the demon that's driving the defect. So if I have, if I have, I'm struggling with alcoholism, okay, you can name it, now work on the virtue. What's the opposite virtue of that? You know, so in this case, the demon calls out less, calls the team out, call somebody out, who knows, okay, good. Then we all need to do more, we all need to shore up our interior lives. we all need to, everybody here needs to do some acts of penance, and whoever, the energerman, the possessed woman is dealing with lust, or if that's the entry point, normally it's the, he's giving you something on his holding point, his entry point, then they've got to

militate against that through chastity. Maybe they need to, as St. Paul says, live separate for a time being, for a time of prayer. And so that bodily engagement, so it isn't just, I'm just going to, you know, yeah, the name of Jesus has been driving demons out from the beginning. but this type only comes out through prayer and fasting and he was talking to some of the church fathers say he's talking to the apostles hey you guys you guys are slacking you guys are slacking you guys if you want to drive demons out you guys have to do more fasting other church fathers say no to the dad to the father hey you got to do more penance if you want to drive

this thing out of your son and out of your family certain demons absolutely yield crumble before male authority certain demons interesting Yeah. When you, you're, so this, this specific individual, they were, this is, this guy or a woman was married. Yeah. And they smell lust in the house. Well, and you, you'd mention that they might want to live separately for a while. I mean, is it, is, are you, is it a sin to lust over your wife? Yes. It is. Lest is a sin, whether it's with your wife or not. Yeah. So it's even cleaning up the marital bed, you know, living clean, squeaky clean. you know, watching any impurity in your marital bed and even the marital embrace, you know, needs to be pure. And the demon is constant trying to corrupt that. So, but he also, in this case, he's revealing something of his entry point and something of his own. If the demon gives you something, you know, when you captured guys, they were very reluctant to give you anything. And then you had

methods to get information, right? And so it's kind of like a bell curve. At first, the resistance, then they tell you everything you need to know exactly how you need to know. And then if you keep punishing them, then they start lying. They start telling you what they think you want to hear to stop the pain. But that's a sweet spot in interrogation. They're not going to give you anything unless they feel pain. And so in the exorcism session, they feel tremendous pain. They're being spiritually waterboarded.

What does pain feel like to them? So the demons are disembodied spirits, angels and demons. or demons are just fallen angels. They're not a separate class. They're, they have a, they were created at the beginning on day two, according to many of the fathers of the church, St. Thomas Aquinas and Dionysus and others, St. Bonaventure, Gregory. God separates out the light from the darkness.

And separating the light from the darkness, he creates the angels, and he creates them, they're disembodied spirits, they have no bodies. And so, and they were given a vision of themselves. The beatific vision, they see God, they see themselves. The Theologians call it three instances, but they have an instant where they see God. They were infused with complete knowledge of God, their mission to serve, everything requisite to that mission.

They got a complete download where they fit. and there's nine choirs of angels in three hierarchies, and they had a requisite mission whether they're going to be an angel in charge of a territory or an angel in charge of Sean Ryan, an angel in charge of weather, you know, whatever, whatever their mission. And they all have an orientation towards, they saw salvation history culminating in God becoming human. We were celebrating this soon in Christmas, God taking on human flash. and they were given a choice and they had to sacrifice something,

something, some good, some perfection in their service of God who would become incarnate. Lucifer, Satan says, non-servium, I cannot serve a God that takes a form lower than me, a meat sack. And rebels, a third of the angels, according to some speculations, but speculations by doctors of the church and guys a lot smarter than me and holier than me.

saints that a third of the angels fell with them. But they're still disembodied. They keep, it's like you, you keep your gear, you know. You stop becoming, you're not a seal anymore, but you're working now in special ops or CIA. You know what I mean? You keep your gear. If I went and become, I went and flew for CIA, I would keep, I'd keep my same gear,

I have my same gloves, I keep my same everything, you know, you just kind of shift into a different form. So these guys kept their gear. They kept what they were issued, but now they work and militate against it. don't have bodies. They don't have bodies. And so when a demon, when I talk about a manifestation, technically speaking, the only thing a demon possesses is a person's body. And so they're, they manifest through the appropriation of the bodily senses. And so, so part of their torment is feeling it in the body of the individual. Part of the torment is the, is the, is the,

they are pure, they're pure intellect, okay, and they will. So part of it, is the pain that is being brought upon them by the church, by the, by the exorcist, that they experience pain interiorly and also bodily through the, through the possessed person, but just the commands of the church, the authority of the command of the exorcist. They experience pain as if they're waterborne. And they have psychological limits. There's even a strategy that we'll use in session where one priest will pray exorcism and another priest will pray another minor ectrism or read from scripture. And so a demon can, they can look at you or me

and know everything they need to know. Everything. It was everything about us. Every single thing. There's no reasoning. There's no, okay, I know, I've met this. I know, I know three seals, and I know a green beret, and I know kind of what they do. And they have some difference. So I have to learn, I have to figure you out by abstraction, right?

I know what a dog's eye looks like. I know what a bird's eye looks like. So from those two things, I can figure out what a human eye does. You know, so by abstraction, the demon has a complete download. He knows, according to his mission, in that original creation, exactly. And so when, when, so he, but he can only focus, he has, he does have intellectual, I mean, he has to focus on one thing at a time perfectly intently. And so when the priest who's in charge is praying this prayer of exorcism, he has to, by obedience, he has to, he's being bound by the authority of the church to listen to him and take that beating. and another priest is over here

saying other exorcism prayers you'll see them look here and look back, look here, look back and it fractures him. It causes tremendous pain plus the physical pain that they feel in the body just seeing the priest, he'll take his stole, put it on the neck of the possessed person which is going back to the vulnerable spot

on the base of the neck where the Genesis 315 you will strike at you will, I will put in between you and the woman between her seed and you, you will strike at her heel and she will crush your head. This is so weird. I just brought this. Is that Genesis 315?

I literally just brought this up in the last interview. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. I never bring up scripture because I don't know it. Yeah, yeah. The only one that I actually. Yeah.

They called the proto. Yeah. So that was, was that a, I mean. Now we're going down a rabbit hole. Oh, here we go. You know, is that the first prophecy of Jesus Christ? Yeah, they call it the proto-evangelion, the first gospel, the first prophecy. And so you see, I cited you from the Latin, which says she will crush the head of the serpent,

pointing to the woman who will be with the Redeemer, right? And we see, we see in the common experience of Exorcist is the efficacy and the power of the Virgin Mary in exorcism. I can just tell you it's game over when she shows up. Game over. Why? Why is that? Because it's prophecy. I will put enmity between you and her. And that enmity means

total complete opposition. She was preserved from the saint of every sin, original sin and personal sin. She was preserved from the stain of sin. And there is nothing in her. She was preserved from that original sin. And so she has a place that is far, her humanity is a perfect humanity. And so the demon has no place and has no foothold in her like he hasn't everybody else through generational original sin, our own personal sins. Even if we were, even if you're baptized today and all sin and a punishment of sin is wiped out, you go commit sins, you now get attachments and you're just given permissions to the demon.

But the Latin version says, so original sin is generational. It is the archetypal generational sin, archetypal in the sense of it sets the pattern. Baptism washes you. So baptism washes out. Okay. It's the archetypal sin, and every sin follows its pattern, but it's archetypal in the sense that each one inherits it and is a spiritual and a temporal effect. And so part of the Genesis 315, the Latin translation is, she will crush the head.

The Greek translation, very clearly he will crush the head. So obviously the primary emphasis is on Christ, but there is an allusion to a woman that would be with the Redeemer, right? And then the Greek, or the Hebrew is vague. It could be he, she, they. But we see this cooperation with the mother, the Redeemer, and with the Redeemer and crushing the head of the serpent. And so in Exorcism, they'll put the,

the priest will put his stole right on the neck, or a crucifix, and he'll place that right on the neck, cause tremendous pain. Or exsuflates, this goes back to Tortulian. Second century talks about exorcist blowing, you know, and one of the Eastern rituals of exorcism, the priest exsuflates and breathes on them, just like God breathe over the chaotic waters. You know, the bishop every year in a Catholic diocese breeze over the waters so that they

will use for baptism to those coming into the church. This water and spirit rebirth, going back to creation, invoking. That's ritual. You know, that's ritual. And so that, and a lot of it goes back to, it all goes back, really, to the garden in Genesis 315. All goes back. Everything, is like the same old shoot-em-up, right? It's like watching a Western movie, it's the same shoot-em-up. Here we go again. Right on.

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not available in certain states, prices subject to underwriting and health questions. Why is fasting so important? Are you trying to weaken the body, or is it purifying the body? You know, it's part of purifying your body. It's freeing the body up for prayer. The body, the bodily senses, again, we have to, our bodily senses are, they make us fickle, they make us, you get hangary, you know,

they can affect our emotions. So fasting is prayer of the body. One of the early church fathers was named, it was St. Cyprian was his name of Carthage. He has one of his quotes, and I printed this out because it's so true. He said, under intense persecution, he said, let us commend ourselves to vigils fasting and prayers in common. Visuals fasting and prayer, so doing vigils, getting up early,

staying up late, you know, spending inconveniening yourself in prayer, fasting engaging in the body and then in prayers and private prayer this is these are the ancient weapons he says these are our armaments our spiritual armaments our defenses and this is the body armor that we put on so fasting it helps free the soul up there's something very powerful about it that frees the soul up for for prayer makes a prayer more efficacious i was just reading this morning a quote from um i think with st john christism or st augustin these are fourth century guys like 400 okay he said that you have five bodily senses and when you when you fast

you start putting your bodily senses two against one he says kind of like I know you do you do some BJJ you know I'm on the receiving end I'm still a white belt whenever I'm rolling with guys they're beating the crap out of me I don't do BJJ I suck I suck really bad at it oh yeah I do it be like oh yeah I fucking train every day no no I suck at it but they always tell you two against one

If my two hands are, you know, are stronger against one of your, one of your, you know, your leg or your arm, you've got to go two against one. So this is, I was thinking about that when I was reading this quote, about two against one, you know, dividing the senses. And the St. Paul says, you know, the things I want to do, I don't do, what I don't want to I do, who will save me from this body of death? part of the thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord he says but part of the effect of original sin they call it concupiscence but it's just this tendency towards sin tendency towards this concupiscence literally means like this lunging pouncing grasping lustful desire for something and so that's constantly in us you have to constantly wage war against that you know when jesus said um um when the bride he was accused of not fasting. Why don't your, you know, the disciples of John the Baptist fast, but why don't you fast? He says, we, the bridegroom when he was with them, it's not right that they should fast,

because we're in the party season right now, right? I'm here. But when the bridegroom is gone, when they take him away, then they will fast. He didn't say when the bridegroom is gone, and it fits into their spirituality, then they will fast. He says, then they will fast. This is why we fast on, on, specifically on Fridays. Most traditional Catholics don't eat meat on Fridays, and they do other forms of fasting on Fridays, because that was the day that they they took the Lord from us on Good Friday. But it frees, it's just part of spiritual combat. It's part of, not just spiritual combat,

it should be part of our spiritual life to make small little sacrifice. It teaches you to make small little sacrifices. Giving up meat when I first started doing it, and I started doing it when I started getting involved 10, 12 years ago in ectricism, everybody in our circles were nobody ate meat on Friday, and I was out there chowing down, and I was like, okay, I started giving it meat meat, it's hard. it's hard for a guy from Ohio

you know what I mean I like meat you know I get it and so it's hard you know and you can give me all the incredible burgers in the world but it ain't the same and I don't even desire meat until Friday so those little promptings but if you can

but those fastings help you to control and you're taking away because the enemy is always constantly tempting us through the body but you can if you can pull the body okay okay so this is it's essentially a discipline actually it's a discipline Yeah, it's a discipline.

And, in fact, what's interesting is our, we have a protocol, Lever Christo Prayer Regiment Protocol. It's a 30-day regiment. You pray certain prayers at 6, 12, and 6. You pray... Why 6, 12, and 6? That's when the Angelus is prayed in the church. And you hear bells going off, Catholic Church's bells, at 6, 12, and 6.

That's when the church, three times a day, prays the Angelus, which the angel of Lord declared unto Mary, and she conceived by the Holy Spirit. it. And so the enunciation from the angel Gabriel to the Virgin Mary that Christ was born at that moment when he announces to her and she says yes. She says yes and consents to this. Christ is conceived in her through the Holy Spirit. And so that moment, God is now incarnate. Even in embryonic form, he is now on earth in physical form. So you're announcing that, broadcasting that with the church universal around the world at 6 o'clock, 612 and 6. This also goes back to the Old Testament

and certain prayers, the Shama, Israel, created you a Lord God of Israel, three times a day, they would pray this prayer. And this is just a Christian version of that. The fullness of time, God sent his son, the Christian version of that is announcing into the cosmos, with the church uniting that so that 612 and 6 it's very powerful and we we've had guys i've had guys that are just doing the discipline there's a media fast so no media social media except for absolutely necessary for your work your vocation um and and and and and just that alone um we've seen obsessions break low level spiritual obsessions which are on the pathway to possession or breaking from that because it gives because the demon the demon is ultimately

is an instrument of chaos they create nothing all they can do is they they are instruments of chaos whether it's interiorly or whether it's on our streets in the big cities they're instruments of chaos and so whenever you impose order the imposition of order is as effective we found in our experience as the the prayers of exorcism themselves or the minor actions or deliverance prayers just that imposition of order is half the battle wow yeah i've seen people delivered from um we had a seminary friend of mine is an exorcist is judoka he's the one that's been trained to me how to be i i will never be more than an you know what an uke is no the uke in judo is the that that's the guy that gets thrown so the other guy can learn how to throw i am i am god's uke man and i so so so yeah so i just

i get thrown all the time and uh but uh he had a he had a um something he was working with a seminarian that was struggling with impurity addiction um pornography and they were going to kick him out of the seminary and I said, no, let's put him on, let's put him on a regimen, puts him on the regimen with a modification, a little stricter, within six weeks it lifted. I've had people, again, struggling with, with pornography addiction, they've been struggling with maybe they suffered a sexual trauma as a child and they fall into addiction, sexual addictions. Just that discipline, I've seen many people break that addiction, addiction to alcohol and other things, because of the demon is constantly driving the interior.

yourself with these motions, shame, driving you to your lower emotions, and so manifest, and working, militating back with the body. If you can start small little sacrifices, little things can help you start to recognize the movement. Like, you know, I was over here as a cab scout. You what I mean? We're looking, my battle for view was radically different than yours. So I'm over here looking. I'm looking at numbers of troops. I'm looking at movements. I see dust over here. I see the bigger picture, unless I engage, you know. But you, you saw the world totally differently. Your spatial and situational awareness is radically different than mine, you know, not through optics or anything else. Yours is, you're right here and you're watching. And so fasting

helps you to increase that spatial awareness, that situational awareness, and you start to recognize the clean from the unclean. So, I mean, when you're talking about, I mean, it sounds like you're back to pornography. If you're addicted to pornography, then that is a, that is you are creating an entrance for a demon to enter, correct? And so when a demon is entering, I mean, is it one act and they're in? You watch porn one time, demons waiting, I'm in. Not usually. Or is that, or is it, or is it the addiction has to snowball?

Usually it's, and again, a lot of it's situation, life, what situation in your life, it's, you know, where you're at in your life, et cetera. Not that the sin is not the sin, but, I mean, If you're a pastor or you're a bishop, and it wouldn't take much to get the demon's attention if you're looking at pornography, you know. But normally, it's not necessarily the pornography. It's the psychological obsession because a psychological obsession is an open door to a spiritual oppression or even obsession.

So just that woundedness, that psychological obsession, whether that obsession is over a drink, over women, over men. you know, over certain type of sex, any addiction, any psychological obsession, obsession over even a good thing, not a good thing, but obsession over the death of a loved one. If it's not brought to Christ, obsession over any psychological woundedness attracts the demon. It attracts the demon. It's like in the... So it could take a while for it to be. It might take a while.

Yeah, I mean, it's sufficient now. Theologically, and this is the experience of the church and the exorcist particularly, but one mortal sin, one grave sin is sufficient for possession, but God and his mercy is so merciful to us. He keeps giving us chances again and again, but at some point when he knows that we're not going to pull away from the sin unless we suffer some, you know, then, you know, if you're walking down the street and a child or your child or a child is walking along and they got a lot of, And they just, they don't pay attention. That's what kids do, you know. And they walk out in the street and here comes a car, you're going to do what you got to do. You're going to grab that arm and, you know, you would hurt that child. There was not, you know, I would say, okay, Sean, would you ever, is there ever a situation that

you think that you would, you can see yourself hurting, deliberately hurting a child? No. No. No. How about if a bus is getting ready to run them over? Yes. You might, you might dive on to them, knock them out of the way. They might skin up their arm a little bit, but they're going to pick up their candy,

wipe it off, and keep moving on. So sometimes God allows us to have a little, we do suffer a little bit until we come back to help us, you know. Does that make sense? Yeah. Maybe it's a bad analogy. But, yeah. It's an abuse teacher as a lesson.

He's teaching us a lesson. Yeah. Trying to. Yeah. Yeah. So, in effect, then, yeah, one grave sin is sufficient, but that's not the case. Our experience is there's multiple sins and largely. So sins are like wounds.

Sins are wounds. And the more wounds you have, the more entry points. Yeah, death by a thousand cuts, it could be. Sometimes it's one big mortal wound. Yeah. For whatever reason, you woke up today and ate stupid soup and went to a prostitute. Yeah, that might be enough. Okay.

But now we're talking about possession, but you do commit a great. act the demon that led you to that grave act will also be present to you until you renounce confess and get rid of it so let's say let's say we have a veil on right now we can't see any of this stuff yeah and and we lift the veil and we're we we we can see the spiritual realm yeah what does this look like in here right now yeah um how many demons how many angels what is one that's half attached that's trying to get in through multiple sin wounds what is it what is i mean in your mind what does it look like well not to sound depressing or anything but uh father gabriel lamorth was the famous exorcist the modern age he brought back exorcism in a time

when liberalism and modernism had so penetrated the catholic church that no there was very few exorcists maybe there was like 12 or i did the edits on on his official biography a couple years ago i mean there was like 17 exorcists 12 exorcists in one time it was terrible and they're supposed to have one of your diocese so one session he was in he asked the he asked the demon how many are you and the demon answered if you could see our numbers we would darken the sun yeah so but there's a spiritual combat taking place as well the angels are battling for us the good angels right the angels and the saints of course our lord you know um that's the the title of god the dominus deus savo the lord the god almighty the god of armies this is the god that intercedes for for us always intercedes for israel and now us the

church and does battle with the enemy on our behalf and with us you know but but yeah i think if we could see it i think we i think if we could we could hear it you'd hear a lot of swords drawn right you think that's what it is you think it's swords and shields and That kind of battle, or is it something that we just, you know? Well, shorts and shields are the best thing that we can, that we can, yeah. There's a scene, this is probably a horrible, but I'm a big von Dom fan, you know. Some of his movies are really cheesy, but there was one movie. I forget which one it was, and he walks into this place of ancient battle before he goes and fights.

I think it was the Kuma. I forget which one. And he could hear sword battling and ninjas fighting, and he could see flashes over here. and you know and so i i think in the spiritual one we would hear that but it's not physical it's it's like saint paul says we tear we we we we tear down arguments we tear down strongholds it's part of spiritual combat is is taking back the you know the demon has no right to us but we have we give him permissions through our sin and so it's taking those permissions back it's the enforcing of authority when the demon usurps authority has no authority to be here right um taking that

authority back that we have according to the office that we have within the church um that that's those are some of the arguments and and sometimes um you know the invoking again um the precious blood of jesus the crown of thorns the sword of st michael on these images you're projecting images it's this is how the demons communicate with us i mean the angels as well it's through it's it's it's through a little technically illumination but it's it's it's it's it's In effect, it's like projection. With projecting thoughts into our mind. Right.

And we know this to be true. Mm-hmm. You know? I mean, you get these, sometimes you get this random, bizarre thought. Like, that's not me, you know? You know, sometimes, like, again, seeing this play out in session, you know, you go into a session and, and after the session, we always do an after-action review, right? The priest's like, all right, what's going? What do you guys got?

What do you guys, you know? Just like, okay, everybody has an assignment. It's very, what drew me to it, not every model is a little different. There's some, you know, there's, there's some models that are just cowboys and I would never do it that way. It's not safe. The way we do it, the Father Ripper in our group is, it's very systematic, it's very militaristic. Somebody's in charge of perimeter. Somebody's in charge of infrastructure.

You're praying for the priest. You're praying for this person. You're watching the priest. You're watching his hands. So in a court of law, you can, you'll never, never not see his hands. so in a court of law you can testify that his hands were always in front of him he never touched her because the demon I can't tell many times the person comes out of the session and says the father raped me did he molest me the demon just starts projecting these images that's what he does so he can take

the dab set that's embedded into our imagination right our memories and yours are different than mine we both will have memories there's if we hear a call if we hear a muslim called a prayer right now both of us are going to trigger in a certain way, right? I mean, because we have memories. Other people will be like, that's a weird sound, you know. So all those memories, all of our emotions, all of our past, the demon has access, and he can manipulate those,

and he can put a spin on it and project an image of it and to try to draw you out of your armor, draw you down out of the intellect, the higher faculty, into the emotions and the instincts. And this is where he draws us out. And so that's how he does. He'll project it and he'll project shame, you know. If you were molested by a guy with a Fulmanchu mustache

and wear a John Deere ball cap and, you know, certain cologne, and all you have to do is put two or three of those, two of those things together in any combination, project the memory of that past abuse. And suddenly you're in a lower state. You're now living in the shame of the emotion. And so he's, and that's when he starts, okay, pounding you away, pounding away at you, you're scum, you're no good, you need to go self-medicate, whatever you're self-medic, he doesn't really care if it's booze, if it's drugs, if it's sex, if it's, you know. So the demons project, the angels do too.

They project good inspirations to us to try to tempt us in a sense to draw us away from sin. But that's where the battle's taking place. It's at that level. Wow. You get a general rule. If you're getting a negative thought about somebody, it's probably diabolic. I hate this guy. This guy's probably thinking this.

You know, it's probably the demon just trying to cause some kind of division. So part of prayer and fasting helps you to do battle with that. I was talking to a friend of mine, we work some cases together, and now he's stopped active work and he's living as a hermit. I mean, no, I mean, a shed in upstate New York with his religious order, but he's a hermit. So all he does is pray all day. Do you think that's a good thing? Yeah.

You do. Oh, yeah. That's what's saving the world. Those guys, the monastic, the consecrated virgins, those are the ones that are holding up and through their prayer. That's interesting. I don't see. Yeah, the world's functional. Why aren't they working with blankets?

Why aren't they working with schools? Why don't they go to hospitals? But it's like in the book of Genesis, there's this battle of Amalek. If you recall the battle, Joshua was down in the battlefield. And Moses sat there and he raised his arm and held his staff in prayer. And every time he kept his arms up, they were victorious.

And then as he got tired, his arms dropped. the guys in the battlefield would lose the fight. And so, I think with Aaron and her, they sat next to him and held his arms up. And so, and it said they mowed down Joshua mowed down the enemy that day. And the early church fathers saw that as a type of prayer, intercessory prayer, a type of Christ on the cross, a type of the priest holding up the Eucharist. but it's the monastic sisters, the consecrated virgins. Those are the real deep operators.

Those are the Dev Groove. Those are the Silt Team 6 of the mystical body. They're the ones holding up, holding up Christ projecting to the cosmos, you know, holding up the church symbolized by the priest, holding up so that their prayers now, you and I are in the battlefield and the act of life. So somebody sent me a view. video this week of the installation of a poor Claire. This is interesting. And it really ties in to all of the cosmology and the demons and these other things. And poor Claire is, they follow

the life, St. Francis and Claire of Assisi. And they live completely cloistered barefoot. They sleep on straw beds. And I gave a presentation to them not long ago. Amazing women. beautiful women from age 20 to age 80. Beautiful women. These are heavy hitters. So in the part of the ceremony, which is interesting, they, when she's taken into the, to make her initial vows, she's dressed in a wedding dress.

Hair's down, beautiful. And she's presented as a bride of Christ. And then they do part of the ceremony, and then they go back into a back room. They cut her hair off or most of it. They put on her veil, her habit, and she comes out in the religious habit, barefoot. And now she's now no longer this person. She's the bride of Christ, and this is what they wear.

And these women are doing penance and prayer for the world. Carmelites, Herclares, Franciscan hermits and others. So this is, it's the unseen warfare that's taking place that nobody sees. So I'm watching this. And, you know, I'm a tough guy. you know i'm i'm i'm your basic you know repress your emotions regular guy and i'm watching this and i'm and i'm i'm getting teary and i'm like what's going on but i realized i just watched the graduation i just watched um the mystical body the the the spiritual combat version of of you guys

when you would hold up that that log you know and all you were together and laying on the ground and under the water and drowning and all those other crazy stuff you guys had to do for your initiation i just watched a seal be born, you know. Interesting. Wow. I just saw, I mean, these are Apache helicopters, and I know unless you see it in action, I can tell you, you can say, hey, and I was a cobra guy, right? When you hear the Apaches coming, it's a good feeling, right?

When I saw that, I was like, yeah. Wow. There was an Apache, because they're offering their bodies as virgins. Wow. their virginal bodies as brides of christ offering and sacrifice in these women i was talking to some of the carmelites are there how many these are there there's pockets all over the world at this particular monastery that i'm talking about there's about 25 of them um in another monastery of carmelites um that i work closely with there's about 12 of them there's pockets all

over the world nobody knows they're they're just hidden you just don't see them the enemy knows them the enemy knows them you know interesting yeah but there but it's that that that virginal so when you combine virginal purity and a bridal a spiritually bridal relationship with with christ symbolizing the church suffering for souls suffering for humanity that's that's the real common this is this is the the patchy's this is the b52s whenever we would hear the b52s it was like yes sir you guys keep going make it easy for us but that's that's that's that's the deeper spiritual combat people don't don't really understand okay yeah when you were talking about the angels and demons were i think you said created on did we say created on day two yeah why would why would

god create demons why would he create that yeah so there's there's there's two misconceptions one is God created demons and created angels. And then there's another one that says the demons are, I think it's Genesis chapter 6 or chapter 10, the Nephtali and Nepali. They were, said the sons of God saw that the sons of, the daughters of men were attractive, and they had relations with them

and created a race of giants. And so going back to a 300 BC book of Enoch that gets kind of repurposed and Kabbalistic mystical Judaism in the Middle Ages and being a little past the Reformation time period. It started, this became the demons or the product of angels who have sexed with women, right? The Nephilim. The Nephilim, sorry, yeah, the Nephilim.

But that's, that, you know, St. Augustine, St. Christophe's, St. John, St. Thomas Aquinas said, that's impossible. They have no bodies. Okay. That doesn't mean they can't rape, okay. But they can't procreate. they can't procreate. So the developed understanding, again, the church has been cogitating this for 2,000 years.

We see the common understanding is day two. God separates life from the darkness. Every angel is created good. They're created with a mission. You're going to be a seal. You're going to be a Cobra pilot. You're going to be a cook. You're going to work in Intel.

You're going to work. you're going to be a tanker. I don't want to be a tanker. I don't care. You're going to be a tanker that I'm not going to serve you. So they were given a mission. They knew everything about their mission accordingly.

And those who rejected with Lucifer fell down to the earth. But they were created good. And at that point, in the rejection of God, because they don't have the body, you know, how many times you make a mistake because you're hungry or hungry? And you're like, I shouldn't have said it to that guy.

you go, hey man, I'm sorry, you know. Their decision, because they had a perfect understanding and a perfect intellect, their decision was permanent. It was forever. And so they became fallen angels or demons. And then the good angels that said yes to God, they became glorified angels, so we have glorified and fallen angels.

And that's what's happening cosmic in the spiritual battle. we think from Revelation chapter 12 said a third of the angels fell right in this cosmic battle there's St. Michael there's the Ark of the Covenant who is also the woman right who is the woman from Genesis 3rd of the angels fell right and Revelation 12 it says a third of the angels are thrown from the sky and so and so that's now now how many is that I don't know if we know that Jesus himself says that alludes to guardian angels, right? Do not despise one of these little ones for their angels in heaven with the Father,

you know what I mean? So each of us has a guardian angel and how many billions have been present of humans on earth, and there's nine choirs, you know, totally, you know, so you're talking myriads and myriads is what the kind of the language of scripture, how many, so we don't know.

But a third of, whatever a third of a myriad of a myriad is, that's a lot of fallen angels. So they're outnumbered two to one. They're outnumbered two to one. But they cheat. And it doesn't feel like it. It doesn't feel like it, doesn't it.

I'll tell you that much. Well, because we're not praying. We're not living our Christian faith. Because that old saying that we use is that angels go where they're asked... We is in humanity. Humanity. Yeah. Angels go where they're asked demons go where they're not resisted. We're not offering any resistance.

You know, we're not offering resistance. We're not praying. We're losing our faith as Christians. We're becoming post-Christian. And to be post-Christian is to be neo-pagan, really. That's what we're seeing. We're saying this play out in real time. What do you mean?

Well, remember Obama, President Obama? Mm-hmm. He said, the United States is no longer, the United States is post-Christian, is what he said. And so nature and preter nature and super nature, they have a void, right? And so as Christianity weakens, pre-Christianity, is now gaining, regaining strength.

And so, and so the, the, we're seeing a rise in paganism, like we say the old gods. You know, that what you guys did, you know, we did, I'm the pilot, you know, but that clear, hold, build, right? That applies to you and me, our families, you know. You got to clear the evil out. You got to clear the garbage out. You got to hold the ground that you took.

You go into a village and you clear it. Then you bring in the Marines, right, to hold it. But then you got to build it. You got to expand it. You got to start making alliances. You have to, you can't just, because you clear it, they're coming back. You clear it, you hold it, they're coming back. You've got to build it.

You've got to build a bigger infrastructure. You've got to hold that ground by building. Society, if you look at Western civilization, it was clearhold built. And it built for centuries. And now it's absurd to think that they're not going to come back and try to reclaim the ground. Wow, that's a damn good point. Let's go back to the Nephilim real quick. So are you saying that you don't believe that the fallen angels bred with humans?

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So is the Nephilim just a complete, just a line of bullshit? Now, so the book of Enoch was written, which is not Scripture, and it had some Gnostic, you know, tendencies in it, which is a dualistic. view of good, evil, good God, bad God, matter and spirit, matter is bad, the body's bad, the spirit. So that's narcissism very, very simply put, but it had some elements of that in it, but it's not scripture. It has some historical elements in it, but a lot of it's not, it's not reliable for theology per se. It might be reliable for some historical things. And so this came through that. This is where I think most of it comes in the modern time.

And so, and you hear, the ones who mostly are putting it out, are people that came out of the occult are people that were possessed. Because this is what the demon is telling them. We're a special race. We're half-breeds. We have power of you. We're different than those angels up in the sky.

They're just, we are special. No, they're not. They were cast from the earth for their disobedience. Cast from the heavens to the earth for their disobedience. So in the early church, you had a couple of fathers. This is, again, we have to kind of look at, okay, here's what scripture says, and how did the church receive it?

She had a couple fathers, Tortulian, Ironaeus. alluded to that, that that could be possible. By the time you get to Augustine, around 400 in the West, and then St. John Christosome in the East, and then it developed from there, if we started to get our understanding of angels and demons more, and then our understanding that, no, fallen angels, a fallen angel is a fallen angel.

And angels are the same class, so to speak. One is fallen, one is glorified. So, and then, you know, again, by the 4th century, they're saying, no, this is false, to say that a demon can procreate, and they cannot. It goes against their very nature. You know, we go to a funeral and someone will say, well, Grandma is an angel in heaven.

No, I'm sorry, she's not. You know what I mean? She's not an angel in heaven. If she's in heaven, praise God. If not, she's in purgatory on her way to heaven, purifying herself of all of her attachments on her way to heaven, or she's damned. Those are the only three realities.

They either are saved or not, you know. And so she can't have a, it's a metaphysical impossibility for me to become an angel. And so angels didn't procreate with, so with a human. So what we see of that, and there's what Augustine argues is, look, the sons of Seth, right, Cain killed Abel, Adam and Eve had a third child, Seth, who was a righteous son, who called on the name of the Lord, that phrase calling on the name of the Lord is a trigger of watching the bloodline of the Messiah, right? And so, Augustine, and then you look at some of the other signals from Scripture,

the line of Cain, the wicked line of Cain, that practiced polygamy, that practiced, that evil entered in. Through the line of Cain, the wicked son, we see the sons of God are the line of Seth, ultimately the line of Christ, and the sons of men are the earthly, you know, those who militate against the people of God. And so they drew various conclusions. This is this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this is what happens when good families allow their children to, to have, to, to marry godless people. That's one of the things Augustine says. So, but it's, they trace it, they, they, they traced it back globally, you know, the bigger cosmic picture.

It's the bloodline of Jesus Christ. So, but, but, but there's a lot of misunderstanding, but no, that, that would, that's a metaphysical and physical impossibility for an angel to have sex. To inseminate. Let me pass that because they can, there are incubus, incubi and succubi that do sexually molest, but that's not the same as insemination. We're talking about here as insemination and creating a being. Now, can they have ritualistic ceremonies and the byproducts of those ritualistic ceremonies are to try to produce this bloodline or that bloodline or whatever? Yeah, but that's not Nephilim. That's not the creation of. That would be some type of a possession within humanity to create a mass of people that breed together for whatever reason they want. And if you think of it, if we know this to be true that we're familiar with, if that was the case and that you're creating, you're taking possessed people that are following, you know, false religions, demonic religions, and having and drawing out the bloodline of where the Messiah will come from, the Davidic bloodline, the Messiah. messianic bloodline if you and if all if we start intermingling all these the wicked with the good right it's not a good thing and so and so it wasn't even in scripture it was like the son it was

they created this race of giants what were the giants men of renown right well physical who knows spiritual david i mean goliath was a giant he had four brothers of giants now by giant you know Depending on the Hebrew, he was six feet, some, six, six, six. And I think it was the, one of the, one of the ancient versions, I think it was the Latin was six foot six. And the Greek, he was like nine foot tall. So big guys. Yeah.

Yeah. What, so what is the book of Enoch? It is. So it says that in there. Yeah. What you say is not factual. So why is anybody? reference and the one you know just being a podcaster the only people that really talk about enoch

are people that are very very conspiratorial right yeah so it's not it's not scripture it's it's a non-scriptural book there's there was enoch there's the life of moses in the time of christ there were various gospels um the gospel of st thomas you know um there was a gospel of of jesus Judas and Judas is like wicked, you know, the new one, Judas is now the good guy, you know. And so there's various other writings that were what we would call a procterful or even just historical, you know. So, and sometimes they say things that, yeah, we know that to be,

that's, that might be true and historically we know this to be true affirmed for other places. But this is a little more mystical and it gets, it got, it got, from my understanding, it was that it was, It was more during, it was picked up by the Kabbalistic, kind of mystical, Gnostic, more modern Judaism. And then some groups, some conspiracy guys use it in other things. But again, I just stick to scripture and what do the church fathers say about it? Because it's kind of like the guys right after, you know.

Yeah. A hundred years from now, we're trying to investigate what was it like to be on the seals. Well, let's look to the guys that did it. it and let's look to the next generation after that and what they received and how they understood it, you know. Gotcha. Yeah. Gotcha.

So it's not scripture. It's just a, it's just a, you know, a book from Judaism in that time period. Oh, God. Yeah. Well, Dan, let's take a quick break. Okay. And then when we come back, we'll actually get into the outline. I know, you're fine.

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This is from Lewis Mello. Mr. Schneider, how should someone who lived a sinful or undisciplined life in their youth go about forming a personal prayer rule. What practices would you recommend to help nurture repentance, spiritual healing, and steady growth in virtue while avoiding discouragement or doubt? Yeah, that's a huge one. That's our society right now. And the fact that you even ask the question is fantastic. It's that desire. Working on virtues, start militating against whatever your previous defects were, minimize your social media. So all those images don't get projected back to draw you back into that way of thinking, that time of your

life when you were farless from God. Small things of repentance and penance, you know, giving up meat on Fridays, doing some fasting, maybe doing some hard fasting. You know, I like to do 24-hour fasting, so I have dinner and I won't eat anything all day for the next day. Do that two or three days a week to kind of train your body in the lower parts of your flesh that are trying to constantly militate and draw you back into that life. Prayer is extremely important because it's through prayer that we start meditating on scripture, reading 15 minutes of scripture every day. For me, I pray three or four rosaries a day. If you have a rosary, it's very powerful. But 15 to 30 minutes of meditating on scripture because what that does is starts reprogramming

your thinking. All those images in your mind and your memories starts getting pushed out and replaced with images of Christ. the truth that comes from from scripture so prayer meditation a dissident prayer life um get a copy of um this book deliverance prayers for the laity that's father ripager i gave you a copy sean last time get a copy of that and and and start praying some of the perimeter prayers every day there's certain prayers that be praying spiritual warfare prayers every day to drive the demon away on a daily basis but having a set time is very important i'm going to get up at the same time every day you know this is the Jordan Peterson get up and make your bed that discipline is very important so

um to the extent that you spent that your previous life and dissipation now put as much effort into growing in holiness thank you thank you all right let's dig into this outline so origins and nature of spiritual beings i know we kind of talked a little bit about that you know that the angels were created on the second day what were they created or were they Were they always there with them? No, created. They were created. There's only one uncreated being, and that's the trium God.

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. The unmoved mover, the, you know, so only God is uncreated from the beginning. Remember in John's Gospel in the beginning, and the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. So God, Father, Son, Holy Spirit, the Trinity, this is the only uncreated. So the angels, fallen or glorified are still created, they're created beings, they're creatures. They're unique. Each is their own species, right? So, so which is, that's, we can't even understand that, you know, a camel, the difference

between a camel and a grasshopper is pretty great, but they're still part of the same species of creature, animal creed, the animal kingdom. Each, each angel is his own species. Yeah. So I've had, I've had people say, well, I'm a demonologist, and I was like, okay, like, can you narrow it down to say one class or, you know, I mean, one. untie it's impossible even getting into angelology and understanding you can't understand here's here's here's what i think the nephaleme is where it's a distraction because you can't understand the demon

unless you understand the angel what they were created for you know when when they bank tellers when they when you in the old day before they had machines they would never let their fingers touch a fake bill and they train them so when they finally get to a fake one they're like i know what a good one feels like so we can so we can only understand demons in light of what they were created for and if you understand the natural law that they were created for as this this preternatural entity created with a specific task whether it was the seraphim the topest the highest acquire that you know the burning ones we see and i and and um that that before the the throne of god uh the cherubim that that the Isaiah and Ezekiel is that hold up God, you know, the thrones.

If they're in that choir or all the way down closest to us, you can't understand what the demon's doing unless you understand who they were at their creation, what their mission was. Okay, okay. Otherwise, I'm sorry, but if they're created, what they try to do is they try to say, we're special beings.

We're different than them. And you have no idea how to deal with us. We're a mystery. in fact the demon is the most um regulated entity in the cosmos strictly regulated by god when he manifests it's because god is allowing it to happen why do you say the cosmos i'm just curious because i think that's the word that why would they be in the cosmos if nobody's out there i think well cosmos i'm talking about the space the the spiritual space around us not necessarily between here and the moon, by cosmic or cosmology, it's the creation of God's created order, right?

A cosmologist is a woman that puts hair back in order. So cosmology is the created order of God. So we can't see it. It's invisible. Okay. Yeah. Like in the creed we see, I believe in all things visible and invisible. What do you think God was doing before the universe was created?

Do you ever think about that? I mean, if he created everything and he was always there, then what was he doing? I mean, we don't even know what he's doing now. But what was he, you know, where's he hanging out? What's he doing? I mean, that's a pretty lonely existence. I don't think so. You don't?

It's only if he was. Yeah, it could be great. Yeah. I mean, he was, you know, God is three, right? But one, one God, three persons. And so living in a state of, of, I don't know. I mean, do you ever think. think about that? No. Why not? I don't know. Now I'm going to be pondering. What was God doing?

But how long did it take them to go, I'm going to make some humans? I'm going to make some humans that will glorify me and really piss me off. Yeah, I'm going to get. Yeah. So, again, some of the church fathers talk about processions that that God is in a continual state of a procession of love between the love of the father and the love of the son and the love of the father and the son and the whole, you know, bringing forth in this procession of love, divine procession, bringing forth the Holy Spirit in this co-equal.

What's interesting, though, you talk about how the ancient demons, one of the things that will do and part of our catechetical session is or you can make him, the priest will make him do it during an exorcism. Read the Athanasian creed. And you can see this diagram. You can Google it.

The Athanasian creed, the father, the son, the Holy Spirit is, is not. And it's this, and then Athanasius wrote a creed about the Trinity, the inner life of the Trinity and understanding that. And so that causes torment to the demon. It causes torment to the demon. When you force their host to read that through the eyes that they were appropriating, it causes torment to see the trium God. But all they can do at best is to try to distort the image, us.

And so what God was doing at the beginning, I don't know, I think he was an eternal self-emination of glory and love. And I don't know what that spiritual party looked like, but we're going to find out Sunday, God willing. Yeah, I hope so. What is the difference between demons and ghosts? So when we talk about ghosts... We were talking about this encounter I had off camera in the cabin.

Right, yeah. So I saw that, and I thought, oh, man, Sean's messing with fire. Yeah. I wasn't messing with anything. I was not messing with anything. But you made the right decision. Tim was there. Were you?

Tim was there. Yeah. But you know what? When you know it, you know, it's time to bug out. That's what we did. You know what? We didn't wait. No.

As soon as we heard that, it was cut the cameras, get everything out of here. Let's go back to the house. I want to see the footage because, and then we pulled the footage up and there was a static on every footstep. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. So when we're talking about a ghost, we're talking technically about a purgative soul, a soul that has died that is also disembodied, but is a soul of a human that's in the process of a purgation for the the, you know, of cleansing of purification on the way to heaven.

It's a saved soul, but it's a soul in purgatory. That would be when we talk about a ghost. And it's allowed, again, very strictly by God, to allow to go back to ask for prayer, to make satisfaction for some sin that they committed. A ghost, that would be a ghost, a purgative soul. A demon is a fallen alien. That's infesting the place, usually because some grave sin was there. Either somebody did some satanic ritual to invoke the presence to draw the demon there

or a grave sin took place there, abortion, murder, whatever, and that the demon is now saying, this is my space. I drove this guy to kill his wife here. I'm going to chill here because this is my space. What do you think I encountered? What's that? What do you think we encountered? do you have any idea um you can tell that they they tracked differently by the way um let me give

full context here just for the audience so we did the we did this it was actually a survival challenge we came back we rented this world war two cabin a rbmbm out in the woods very old place and um we did a debrief there about the challenge in the middle of the debrief while we were filming we heard footsteps upstairs it was a loft nobody was up there we knew nobody was up there before when we before when we were setting up we had a lot of problems with the electrical outlets and stuff signs would like a sign wouldn't light up and then and then a camera would work if we plugged it in or like all kinds of weird stuff going on with the electrical but yeah when we heard the footsteps and all of us heard it uh we cut the cameras

cleaned everything up took off pulled the footage reviewed it and every single footstep there's static you can still hear the footsteps too if i remember right but um and there's no static anywhere else so then i had an encounter there about a year or two prior me and my wife stayed there we heard knocking i heard knocking on the walls but i chalked it up to a dream and then i pulled the reviews the Airbnb reviews and it's don't knock on the walls they knock back don't come after dark da da da da this place has a mind of its own so yeah i mean it's haunted there's it's haunted yeah yeah something's in there something's in there yeah yeah you can kind of track by um number one the reaction to prayer once you know um if it's if it's um if it gets better with

prayer it's it's probably and again the the chances are statistically in my experience anyway and i think this would be the common experience of most exorcist and those who work closely with them the common experience would be most likely it's infestation of place by a demon. So who knows what... So you think that would have been a demon? Probably. I mean, because it's very rare

that you would see a purgative soul come back. Now, it does happen. They're asking for prayer. But the reaction to prayer usually makes it go away. It gets better. It's not destructive. I mean, if you hear knocking on the walls and it knocks back in a strange cabinet at night,

you're going to get a fear of flight or flight response. So that alone isn't enough to tell you if it's diabolic or not. But if it's messing with the electrical, if it's messing with, you know, some of the fruit, if it's causing division, oftentimes when you have an infestation of place, there's a lot of family fighting going on, there's a lot of... I've had a lot of these encounters. I mean, not a lot of them, but, you know,

we're on the front lines of where the Civil War happened right here. Yeah. You know, this whole town. And so there's ghost tours and all kinds of stuff going on all over the place out here. But, I mean, just another example. I remember when me and my wife moved up here and we were looking for a place, went to this place way out in the middle of nowhere, there's cemetery on it. And I was like, I'm not, I don't want somebody else's cemetery on my land.

I'm with you on that. And so we, I was like, I don't even know why we're going to look at this place. Like, we're not doing, I'm not doing, not going to buy a place with somebody else's bodies buried in the ground. Yeah. From a family that's not ours. Chances are in this part of the world. There's a free Masonic symbol on about every other grave to him anyway. She was like, well, maybe it's probably all the way on the other side of the property.

It was, I don't know, 30, 40 acres maybe. Get there. It's right out the kitchen window. you see it and there's a there is a dilapagated slave quarters right next to the cemetery and they tell us that and my wife goes no worry they they they she goes if this place was haunted she goes it would it would communicate through the electric yeah boom the lights all went off yeah on and off like three or four times right once yeah and i was like you mean like that yeah and um And to be honest, we actually wanted to put an offer in on the place. And I went over there with a, I had a cup of coffee. I was like, look, I'll come out here, talk to you guys. But if you freak me out, I will bulldoze all your asses all the way over to the, on the side of the front.

But I was, so anyways, I'm just saying, like, this stuff has happened to me, you know, and it sounds woo-woo to a lot of people who have happened to me. It's a lot of, it's happened to a lot of people. Yeah, but I mean, you, some people are not as sensitive to it. some people are more naturally sensitive to it than others. I think on a spiritual level, you're more sensitive to this stuff, but also as an operator, you're like, your heads on a swivel all the time.

You can't beat that out of you. You can't not see things, you know. And so, yeah, I think you're better off. You know, we deal with it all the time. Now, sometimes people say, I had it, this house was haunted, and then I moved in with my, I got my baby daddy. that was haunted. Then I moved in with my sister and then her trailer was haunted. And then I got an apartment and that was haunted. Like, hey, there's a pattern here. You know, it's not

the place that's you. Yeah. You're the one that's got somebody following you. But there are actual places. You can, you know, I think we talked about on the last show, the devil on Brownsville Road was, it was a new American or American Chinese. One of the magazines described as I think they're coming out with a movie. This was a place where there was an Indian barrel site. I mean, a slaughter, Native American slaughter. There was some slaughtered, some settlers or something. And then later it became an abortuary. And then later this house became a local witch buys it, you know, witchcraft.

So these people buy it and it was just a, I mean, like, Amityville Horror stuff, walls bleeding and everything else. And so they ended up. The walls bleeding? I think so. I've never personally seen that, but I know it's happened. like crazy stuff like in the like blood just comes yeah yeah i've never seen it so but but this house had crazy stuff going on and they fought it out and um they went two years and the priest that was

assigned there um had a had a woman that was supposedly seeing what's going on behind the scenes and was given this guy a bunch of bad intel and so he never went it he said you can't go into this place you have to do it from out here and They ended up calling in an expert, another exorcist from another diocese, who was a very known by the book guy and got rid of it in about two or three months versus like, it lingered for a couple of years, but it was nasty. So they're claiming that place. They're saying, hey, this is my place.

We were here first. I claim this. Demons are very territorial. So a demon will attach itself to a human. He doesn't care. And or a residence, a location, a venue. It has to do with the, it has to do with the. It has to do with his assignment, his inclination towards that assignment, what he was created for.

If he was created to preserve marriage and the sanctity of marriage, he's going to start militating now against marriage and towards homosexuality and other things. So he's just going to start working the opposite. He was there to guard the space or guard this territory or working with the guy that's in charge of this territory. He's now going to claim that territory. So probably a dumb question, but what happens if he just bulldoze the house over? Oh, he doesn't care about the structure. He's, it's the space. It's an actual perimeter.

It's the perimeter. Yeah, it's the perimeter. Do you can... That's why I pray the perimeter prayer. I mean, I pray that's a prayer. You should pray every day for your families. Praying that perimeter. You're laying down in Constantinowire.

You're making it hard to get in. You pray that every day? At least twice a day. What other prayers do you pray every day? There's prayers of consecration. I pray, consecrate all my actions, all my temporal goods to the Blessed Mother. Prayer of St. Patrick's Breastplate, Invocation of Heavenly Host, I've got, I bring multiple

rosaries a day. I'm constantly trying to put lead down range and string up the concertina wire, you know. So plus I try to do mental prayer every day, try to go to Mass every day. Do you think this conversation that we're having does anything in the spiritual realm? Oh, absolutely. Yeah. What does it do? Well, an operator's best, your best, one of your greatest friends is silence, you know, we own the night, right? So to pop a, you know, even if it's a temporary flare, you know, a flash, it brings some light out and people see the good and they recognize. Again, you shouldn't watch something like this or get into this.

out of curiosity, it should be to help you grow in your spiritual life and become a better Christian. That's the whole point. It's how to overcome evil in your own life. And because curiosity itself can be an open door. You know, St. Augustine said, that's not good for me. Well, knowing it, doing it for the right reasons, you want to learn about this, you know, I'm going to join the seals because... I want to understand it. I want to understand it. I want to patch. I want the, I want the, what's the trident, you know, and I want the coolness, but I don't get shot at. You mean, you mean I got to go days without sleep, and I can't, no, no, I want the cool stuff. No, spiritual combat is just a grind. It's just, it's the grind of basic soldiering,

you know, but you've got to do it for the right, you have to, you have to understand what your enemy's doing. You're not going to, you never went into battle, not knowing who you're up against, at least having a good idea. So we don't want to open that door through curiosity. That's not safe. St. Augustine said, the demon, three things attract the demon to us. The first thing he said is an unholy curiosity. Basically, if you go looking for the devil, he'll find you. So you have to just, you can't be an unhealthy curiosity versus a studiosity. How can I help this? How can this help me grow closer to Christ? The demon in spiritual combat's tertiary. Primary focus is Jesus Christ. We have to stay focused on him.

And secondary, what are the obstacles that keep me from getting closer to being united with Christ? And then finally, what is the demon doing? So the intel only helps us understand what's blocking us. If I'm hitting his radar for something, he thinks I'm vulnerable here, then I better work on that. This is why I started pathetically in a very bad way learning judo and jujitsu a year ago because I really wanted to understand because I'm a striker, I'm a boxer, and I want to to learn this whole different mentality of combat sports, which I'm not good at. You know, like I said, I'm a parental white belt.

But learning how to feel pressure, counter pressure, how to look at multiple moves after, you know, you've done it as well. So that's spiritual combat. It's judo. I mean, it's still striking. Don't be wrong. It's MMA. But that curiosity, if you're doing it, I'm learning it so I can become a better.

Christian, a better father, a better husband, you know, then it's, then you're moving into studiosity. Excuse me. Would demons attach themselves to things? Could they attach themselves to an antique, a chest, a chair, a gun, stuff like that? Right. Yeah, they can, objects. the technical term would be secondary causality.

They would allow, they would, they would allow, they use objects to bear their power. And not unlike blessed Holy Water, a blessed crucifix, when a crucifix or a rosary or scapular is blessed, it bears. the blessing of Christ through his church. And so it's a sacramental. It carries the power of the church. I've had cases where we just can't quite figure it out, and I'll put two cups of holy water. This is off-session, no, just doing catechesis.

One's blessed holy water. One is not blessed. And tell me which one. Are these different? Every time, yeah, this one's hotter. They can feel the difference because it carries that blessing of Christ through the church. so the demon works off that same again the demon everything he does is a complete counterfeit

and um mockery and reversal of an ape of um what is true and good and pure what we see in the sacramental system in our case the sacramental system of blessings you know crucifixes so so the demon's going to do the opposite they're going to use sage they're going to do they have all sorts of other other objects that they use the agency of immaterial things, meaning, like, we use oil, salts, metals, that the church says, yes, this is a sacramental. And so the demons do that. So, Chucky Dolls, seen those. Yeah. For whatever reason, I don't know. What do you mean you've seen him? Seeing him where? Well, I had three different cases that had Chucky Dolls, some version of a Chucky Doll involved. What are the cases? One of them was

one of them it was a single mom and she just reported and other people reported so it's not just someone tells me because who knows but these are verified but she was a single mom and she went into the daughter she was pretty heavily afflicted she went into the daughter's bedroom was cleaning up

and she would hear the Chucky doll was a little doll with the pull string saying things off script like why are you leaving me here alone come in here and get me holy cow yeah yeah that'll that'll put a fear of god in you yeah yeah yeah so what do you do with an object like that um you know i real quick i mean my my my head security guy who we're both mutual friends with i don't want to say his name on here but he we talk about this kind of stuff quite often and uh he had brought up i I mean, you see all this stuff in here.

It's all from my previous life or guests of mine. It's all like historic stuff. Yeah, it's a historical stuff to me. Ed Calderon gave me this statue of a Santamwera. Are you familiar with that? He gave me a Santamwera that he took out of a taxi that was smuggling drugs into the United States. It was a wax figure, cracked,

in half full of heroin there's a whole trunk full of these things so he gave me one um without the heroin of course and and kind of like put it back together is like is a is a is a keepsape you know for the studio it's right up there i put a rosary around it yeah it's next up yeah you know that stuff up there he says i need to get rid of that thing i actually slipped my mind since he told me that until we're just having this exact conversation. What do you think? I'm going to quote a famous rapper, MC Hammer. It's Hammer Time. I would get rid of it.

Really? Because these things act, they carry the curse that came with them. They carry the curse. They also use statues of the Virgin Mary and smuggle drugs over. I had a lady, church lady, saw this beautiful statue. Well, she thought she wanted to rescue it from a pawn shop. Brings it home. She said everything, ever since I brought that into my home, it's just been strife and problems and I said well I looked I said what does that have a big thing

and I could describe it she's like yeah I said that was probably used to smuggle drugs across the Mexican border to get rid of it so bless burn and Barry I've got to I put the formula in and I'm not plugging books I'm just telling you I'll give you the formula I'll cut and paste it for you destroy it render it inoperable

pray a couple of prayers of that God would decommission the evil from it and smash it break it up and then sprinkle it into running water or bury it, I would put it into running water and let it flush away. Okay.

We've seen everything from cursed rosaries. You know, there's satanic rosaries that are out there, yeah. Yeah, there's, they're coming from China and Satanists are cursing them and shipping them to parishes, you know, give these out to the kids. They're the glow in the dark ones, every Catholic kid had glow in a dark rosaries, you know.

And so we had some come to a parish once, and they just showed up, like, oh, this is great, they're samples of these rosaries. And the church lady tried to, then she realized there's satanic simples on them. So she put them into her fireplace and tried to burn them, and it smoked her house out. Are you serious? Yeah. So I'm the dirty jobs guy, you know.

So like, oh, okay, let Dan get rid of it, you know. Now we've learned over the years, no, you get rid of it. Well, in this case, the pastor should have been with me. But, or if somebody has some objects from Grandpa, some garbage or whatever, they destroy it. We'll walk them through it. But this case, I destroyed it. So I take it out to a remote place going to bless burn and bury. So I had it burning.

And right when I started lighting it up, four dogs came out of the brushes and surrounded me. And this is before the Sean Ryan show. I didn't have my P-365 Legion. I had something. It didn't matter what I had. It was sitting in my Jeep. And they surrounded me. I couldn't get to it between me and the fire.

So I had a shovel and I was like, all right, game on. four-on-one. I guess this is it, you know. And then I start to rear back and I was going to attack the most aggressive one. As soon as I reared back, this lady black from head to toe just comes walking out of the, out of the, out of the, out of the, I'm in the middle of nowhere. She walks walking out. The dogs, she doesn't say a word. She just watches me the whole time, and they just quietly get in behind her and they just walk off. And those things burnt for, for, for, it took forever to burn. Wow. I had a cursed Barbie doll one. a lady, the lady came in.

Their daughter was really afflicted, teenage girl. And she had an unhealthy relationship with an uncle or something. And he had given her this Barbie doll that she was really attached to. And you have to watch, this is the thing, it's the attachment. That's where the demon is. He's always in the attachment. You talk about fasting and breaking the attachment to meet once in a while, the attachment. A rock falls in your shoe, breaking the attachment to comfortable feet, you know, walking

with that for a half hour or so offering it up for your family whatever so breaking that that attachment to this object so um that's what that's how you know what the demon is um so the daughter is really attached to it and and she had chronic problems with her right leg she couldn't figure it out and the parents are like we know it's something wicked but we can't figure it out we said okay give us the baby doll so she gives us the Barbie doll okay why did they say give us the Barbie doll did they Did they observe her and see what she was most attached to? They knew that the uncle had given her a Barbie doll that was a little creepy. And the uncle was a little creepy.

And so we just said, okay, then get rid of it. We just said, tell me about the Barbadol. Oh, you can't have it. Okay, then get rid of it. I mean, it's that blunt. There's no nice. It's like, oh, really, you're attached to it? Give it to me.

We're going to get rid of it for you. I want to see it. So she brings it, they bring it, and it's covered with paintings and symbols. Barbidoll. dressed like, you know, kind of like a occult clothing and missing a right leg. And just young girls, so we take it, take it to a remote place, and we dig a hole. And I, you know, I'm looking around because, you know, I just don't need to be seen. I'm just trying to get rid of this thing and do the right thing for these people.

Again, now that we've matured in our, you guys. learn stuff over time in combat too and you learn how to kick doors in better than you did before so it's the same thing so we've we've learned now we would say no dad you got you're in charge dad you're the head of household you burn it you let this garbage in you get rid of it so anyway we're burning it and i look around and there's nobody from i can't i'm in the middle of nowhere and all of a sudden i start to light it and i get to smell of just skunk and flesh it's gross And I look, and from me to there is a carcass of a rotting skunk, just like, and I didn't see it. I didn't smell, didn't see it, and this was a skunk rotting, and it was foul.

So we light it up, just light up as Barbie doll this big. And it burnt, I'm not kidding you, like three tractor tires, green and black. Wow. So you talk about it carries, just like this carries the blessings of Christ in the church. Curst objects work in the same way. So if you want, we can get rid of that. Should we get rid of it here, or do I need to take it to somebody else's property? Who's your biggest enemy?

Give them a gift. I got a lot of them. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, we get rid of here, take it to the river and break it, dispose of it. I'll give you the formula to pray. And I think that's part of it. We go through part of our protocol is to identify we've let these things into our house.

And we don't even know why. They're cute. But some of the, you know, I've had cases where they're, they're, they're like Indian descent, you know, from India. And somebody gives them this native, you know, indigenous garment that they wear. And ever since they've gotten that garment, it's just been nothing but problems in their house. So it was cursed, who knows? If you ever heard of a Masonic Bible, a friend of mine got one of those passed down to them from his family.

Yeah, we'll put it. I'll quote another, I'll quote another rapper. That's not a rapper, it's more of a soul's guy. Burn, baby, burn. Yeah, you got to burn. What is a Masonic Bible? Well, that was, that was, was it Jefferson? I don't know anything about the Mason's.

I know that the Catholic Church here is surrounded by the Masonic Temple. I went to Mass there this morning. You did? Yeah, yeah. I couldn't believe it. Yeah. Yeah, so, yeah, so this was a Bible that they did. kind of they kind of put together um but yeah and you have that the aprons the rings

swords and other things all that regalia needs to be needs to be disposed of that's been i forget how many so what is the masonic bible it is um what's the difference um it is i don't know there's a whole lot of huge differences okay yeah yeah i just know when we get them we burn them because it's not a christian bible i mean it might have some books of the bible in there and all that that but but um but yeah it's it's what they have it's what they give you when you reach a certain level okay yeah okay what is the gofield by the way was the was a freemason the scofield by really yeah you wouldn't believe the the amount of freemason me especially in this part of the world but it seems to be pretty strong it's pretty strong here yeah completely antithetical

their motto is against crossing crown it's just there's been i forget how many popes multiple popes and encyclicals written by popes denouncing you know you cannot be catholic and a freemason why again against crossing crown part of the one of the ceremonies is to is to trample on a tiara representing the papal crown it's luciferian so it's you know luciferian is a philosophy if you will it's secular humanist in its philosophy it's syncretistic they trace themselves back to to to you know, Solomon in the building of the temple and the Freemasons that were here and these other legends, but they also bring in other elements of different religions into it as well. Well, I mean, what is the point of the masons? I mean, we see all the symbols, the pyramids,

the one eye, the, you know, I mean, I don't really know much about it, but, you know, as a matter of fact, I mean, the last time I was in Washington, D.C., I just was looking at Google Earth, try to find a place to eat and I noticed all the roads line up into like pyramids, triangles or diamonds and it's it's creepy somebody sent me right where the shooter was

he said one of my one of my scout buddies he sent you see with the where the that the 24th National Guard people were shot and one's dead or two the female was killed yeah I'm not sure

and he said you see it and I was like No. And then he drew on there. And the streets he drew, he could see at least a satanic star right there too. So others have made those observations. Yeah. But you think of it, what, 13 of our founders of the signers of the Constitution were Freemasons. So is that a good thing? No. I mean, that's not a good thing. Yeah. So what is the point? What is, what are the Freemasons? They are, it's a fraternal organization. It's for men. They have feelings. female exiliaries and stuff, Job's Daughters and the Eastern Star and others. But it's basically was started post-Reformation, Scotland, London, UK, some in Germany, around that same time period that would create a fraternal organization, a secret brotherhood.

And they have their own rituals and processes they work through. Um, they have, um, you know, the Freemasons, if you think of it, whether, or, um, behind, if you ever seen the, the, um, the movie about the Christero war in Mexico, they were behind that. Um, if you weren't a Freemason, you didn't do a job in the government, uh, at that time in Mexico, um, persecuting the church. Freemason, you'll see some, you know, Jay Z and famous rappers or Prince Hall Freemasonry, so they're, they're behind, you know, They're actually, so you have your African-American Freemasonry that is, that's some say related to the Black Panthers or some radical. And then you've got those that are behind some of the white supremacy and other things as well. So, or at least co-associated with. So it's an organization, but they have a brotherhood based upon going through these common rituals.

But again, think of that, against Cross and Crown. It's against, it's, it's against the church and it's against right order. And so they're going to, Vietnamese, say that's not true, but, and there's different layers. There's different layers, lower levels or, you know, it's brotherhood, but as you go higher up, it gets a little more. Again, I wasn't a Freemason, but how do you get higher up? You progress through, you progress through, and if you, they see that you're, that you, that you, that you fit certain molds. then, yeah, they'll let you go. And then they reveal the great architect of the universe,

which from inside reports, and they're going to deny this, but the inside reports, people that have come through this, say, yeah, I know, the great architect of the universe is Lucifer. Wow. Yeah. So it is a... It's Luciferian, yeah.

Yeah, and I can only tell you from the other side. I can tell you as a Catholic, it's been denounced, you can't be Catholic, Freemation, it was in Canada law. It's been denounced by several popes. It's been, there's multiple. and it's antithetical. And even the Freemasons themselves say, yeah, Catholics technically can't either.

Even though you'll hear once in a while you hear a bishop or priest say, no, they're nice guys. They might be nice guys, but you can't be a member of that. But on the other side, we've seen many cases. And there's certain patterns in those cases. The G maybe probably stands for the generative principle.

I'm not sure. But you'll see it affecting having children you'll see women struggling to conceive oftentimes descendants. What do you mean? Then the symbol, the compass in the square and there's a G in the middle. But there is an effect oftentimes of these curses of on second and third generations down where asthma, stomach disorders, very common. Sometimes you'll see, we had two cases at like six months of each other, you know, a year. three children of boy and a girl boy and two girls the boy was autistic the daughter was completely

without religion just rejected their faith and the next daughter the youngest was transitioning to male father was masturbation and a certain certain type a year later we get another case this couple's inflicted. They have three children. The son's autistic daughter is on, is completely rejected Christianity, making her way back, but she had completely abandoned her faith. And then the youngest daughter was on transitioning to male. They both came from the exact accident. Now, coincidence? Okay, maybe. But the curses affect the males more. Father Ripper will tell you that in his experience, that in cases where there is the holding or entry point of the demon of some kind of sexual abuse, either rape

or molestation, 50% of the time there's Freemasonry involved in the family. Wow. So, and again, that's how these things kind of enter into families. Damn. But they can break, you know, you can break that through by resisting and living out your faith, you know. But, yeah, so those things are real. They work through.

what is the unholy trinity yeah so when when again none of us were there we have to lean on some of the the the doctors of the church um and the right you know the experience of exorcist and experience of those have gone before us but we see a fracturing if you will of satan at his fall we're gotten when he refused to serve the incarnate god i refuse to serve a god that will take a form lower than me, this incarnate. That's why he hates human flesh. He hates us because we image our creator, right? And his image and likeness, he created us.

And so if he can mar that, God's image, you know. And so some speculation that when we see this play out in the field, we see a fracturing. We see a fracturing from one God, three persons, one person fractured into three movements. or three, I hate to say energies, but three positions. So you see Satan, Lucifer, and Beelzebub as names for the devil of the fallen angel Lucifer who fell,

loosely corresponding to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Okay. So we see where the Holy Spirit brings life, brings unity, brings virtue brings peace all the fruits of the holy spirit we see the opposite and that's the one that's most prominent most prevalent today you want to talk about sex in human sacrifice no not really right that's a terrible i hear all about this and i want to know you know what did what are people getting out of this stuff yeah so why is it happening yeah um the coin of the realm if you will, is blood and sexual purity. And so God became man. It says in the book of Hebrews,

without the shed of blood, there is no, there is no atonement for sins. And so it's through the blood of Jesus Christ, right? Who fulfilled the shadow that came to the reality of the, of the The Passover, Christ is the new Passover lamb. In John's Gospel, the noon hour, when the Passover lamb was sacrificed, Jesus is taken away. They give him wine dipped on a sponge and a sprig of hyssop. He's wearing the priestly ketone, his garment that the soldiers cast lots for. He is lamb and high priests.

He's the fulfillment of all these Old Testament, the shedding of the blood. of the Passover lamb. And so he is the new Passover. And so, but he's also virginal and pure. And so, and so he has, he, so it's virginal purity and his mother, who from Genesis 315 was prosophied to be with the Redeemer is all, is, is at the cross there with him, present with him. And so we see the perfection of humanity and Christ,

shedding its blood and so and so in in that two elements we see what the the demon works to to in the opposite so it's blood and and the deflowering the sexual impurity and and if god made us in his image and likeness um and somehow male and female he said male and female he created them in in our image so somehow the the triune god one per one god is one but three persons we reflect the inner life of god man and woman and so it the demon is constantly militating against that um against the unity of man and women he's going to constantly try to distort the primary aim of marriage which is reflect god and and to and to bring life just as god just as the love of the father and the son the one the two produced three then this emanation

of love, this Holy Spirit, so now one becomes two and two becomes three and three becomes four, you know, and this life-giving expression of human love. And so the militate against that is, brings particular delight to the demon. So they're not really getting anything out of it. They're just torturing people. To appease demons. It is thought that the demon and that draws you to hell, you now serve under him in hell for eternity. So they get that, if that's true. And they get the satisfaction of drawing someone away into their camp,

the satisfaction of pulling a child of God away from their destiny to be with God forever. They get that satisfaction to create misery loves company, so to speak. Mm-hmm. What I was kind of getting at was, you know, we hear this a lot, powerful people, politicians, Hollywood folks, sports figures, singers, like, whatever, like, people that we would consider to be very fortunate and have a lot, whether that's money or, you know, whatever it is. You know, we hear a lot about. what goes on you know it stuff like bohemian grove yeah you know in secret societies all that kind of stuff and then in there's this trade for supposedly there's this trade for power right right but maybe we get there after we talk about the old gods yeah because they're the same they are the same yeah they're just coming back they're repurposing they're resurfacing let's take a quick break and we'll come back I'm not going to wait anymore.

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the Sean Ryan Show's story. All right, we're back from the break. We just kind of closed out with Freemasons, but I know you have I think you have one more thing you wanted to say. Yeah, well, the, um, we had another case of a Chucky doll and this was, um, Freemasonic. This was a high level Freemason. And, um, this case was, was, was is, again, the demon militates to absurdity. And so the focus needs to be on Christ. The second focus is what are the obstacles. And the third is what the demon is doing.

But sometimes when he militates to a really absurd thing, like a Chucky doll, you'll wake up and go, hey, I got to change my life. So this guy was a high-ranking guy. He starts having kids and he starts having that movement of conversion to come into the church. And his wife goes in to clean up the toys. And one night the kids are in bed picks up a teddy bear and the teddy bear head turns comes alive and says,

they're mine, leave us alone. These are mine, leave us alone. And these are, you know, articulate, educated people, you know. They're not, cookie. They're just regular guys. She throws the thing down and runs off, you know, and that spark their conversion, okay? And then going through their conversion, going back into the church, and this is oftentimes when you feel the effects of curses is when you start seeing these moments. This guy that's experiencing the Chucky doll is a high-level Freemason.

He was at the time, or he had left it. He was leaving it. Okay. And so all this stuff starts lighten up in his life, you know, and so including this and other, other, again, problems with the children and typical things that are happening, you know, children having problems and confusions and other things.

And so there are, we're running through, this is the, I should, deliverance prayers for the laity book. I gave you one last time I was here. Yeah, you just pulled that out. Yeah, just a minute a deal. In the back is, there's renunciation prayers that you can do, and I can,

I'll put on the show notes on the web page that you can see how it works. who should pray the breaking of the curses. And, you know, so we talk about generational curses. And this is more of an active type, active type of curse. It would be freemation. There's other types as well, we'll get into. But in this case, we're doing the renunciations

and in preparation for potential prayer and the guy. So we're doing our protocol, you do it once a week in a sacred place once a week for three weeks. now if they're in our system then our team is assisting in that if they're not you can do it on your own you know but if they're in the system for other activity that you kind of clean up so we're going through and every week when we got to that section where he would where he was what he what he did in his previous life the wife starts choking coughing and then the next week and they there's remission both family lines as well and then the next week we do it same thing we get to this person

certain section that I know he was a member of, an elite, fairly high-ranking guy. Not all the way up. He didn't see the total dark stuff, but high enough that he was moving his way. He, she starts coughing again, kind of a coughing fit. Again, I'm a Cav Scout. You watch for movements.

You're looking for patterns, you know, just like you. Okay, interesting. Week three. So you do it three weeks in a row, go to confession every week and work through that. So, and then after the third, third time, it's the curse is broken um and so the third week we're going through i've got a couple team members there and um one of the parents were there and then we get to that same section with

the last couple weeks you just kind of cough and choke up she starts getting choked out like like an invisible hand just went oh no kidding yeah yeah yeah and so the guy are looking at me like what are you doing what are you going to do you know and i know i'm going to get destroyed by the by the pastor for doing this you know he's going to be like what the heck are you doing i'm going to run over and get the priest to save my bacon so so i had known them um you know had they had they had been going to confession they're working the way through a state of grace so i said all right and they're looking at me and and so you know i was i'm i was a pilot you know mean. So we're just on the outside, cool. You know what I mean? Sunglasses. We've got the scarf,

air metals dangling, you know, upside down and inverted. Super cool. But on the inside, I'm like, oh, man, I'm really screwed here, you know. And meanwhile, she's choking. I mean, like, face turning red, like, eyes butt going out, like, what's going on? So I say to the husband, and, hey, do me favor. Raise your hand, and you want you to say in the name of Jesus Christ, I bind any demon afflicting my wife, and I command you go to the foot of the cross. I was like, yeah, this will take care of it.

Nothing. What the heck? This happened fast. She's starting to choke out. And I was like, all right. And then all I can say is my garden angels didn't talk to me very much, but I had a quick inspiration.

Right. And I'm writing this chapter on natural law. I'm trying to understand in the demonic psychology, how they're, you know, I understand St. Thomas and I understand the biblical understanding of this, of authority and natural law. And so, but I'm trying to working through it as a scholar, but I've never seen it in real time. It's like you breaking down your 1911 100 times, but you've got to actually go to the range. So I'm understanding ballistics, but I'm not understanding how to use this weapon. And so, and again, a demon is bound by that natural law that he's created under. And meanwhile, she's choking out. So I just said, okay, I want you to say, in the name of Jesus Christ, and by the authority given to me through natural law by God, the Father Almighty is having authority over this flesh. I command you to leave my wife alone immediately and go to the foot of the cross. And he says that prayer, and the minute he says that prayer, it goes away. Wow. So invoking, I saw it happen. invoking natural law, right?

It was incredible. And so after everything, calmed down and she catches her breath and she gets her color back. And the husband goes, why did that work? And not just invoking. I said, look, I said, I don't know. They said, what do you mean? You don't know.

You're the expert. I'm like, I said, you know, it ain't stupid if it works, right? And I said, no, here's what I think. I think God wanted you to learn that your family is in a battle and you're the one. You've got to be the guy that breaks this. You're the tip of the spear. And you need to start asserting yourself as the head of household and be the man and man up and fight this fight. And wife, you need to let him leave.

Let him fight this fight. And you support him and you fight it too, but that's a mama bear, right? And I didn't tell him. And God was showing me the understanding, the intricacy of how the demon works and how natural law and how they work and they respond to that. And, you know, not every weapon works in every situation. You go loaded for all sorts of things. You don't throw a grenade in when you're, you know, when you don't need to. You don't break out, you know.

So this is, but this was really helped me understand. So we see the effect of the Freemasonic curse. We see the generations involved. We see the attack on the children. We see the power of a father's prayer. to break those curses. And so that's when I started to see how wicked this stuff is, but also at the same time, focusing back on Christ,

that family is now, you know, strong, working together and going to Mass. I mean, they're through that phase of their life. Thanks be to God. Man, wow, you have seen some stuff. Yeah, it's... Jeez. Well, let's move in to...

to the old gods. You ready? Historical and biblical contexts of first false gods in the Old Testament. Ball, Ashera, Moloch, Amon, and Ruffin. Did I say those correct? Yeah, those are just... Riefen. Yeah, Raphon.

You have basically under... Satan, Lucifer, Bielzobo. Those are the principal titles that roughly I've mentioned before, roughly everything he does is a mimic of a mockery and aping of the true, the good, the beautiful. Everything he does, he can create nothing. This is why we saw, we talked about the last time this God mentioned in Exodus 111. Well, he's not mentioned, but the cities are mentioned. If Egypt and the principal deity of the pharaohs would embody and this particular Pharaoh, this particular time,

and at different times, was this demon, a tomb. And he would, before we get into the big gods, this particular Egyptian god is known as the great masturbator, the great he, she. Because everything goes back to that original creation of Adam and Eve, right? And also everything goes back to the proto-evangelium, Genesis 315. A redeemer will come.

And so from the beginning, the enemy is working against this. And what he would do is he would, and I'm sorry, you know, this is not for every audience, but he would ingest his own semen and then spit children out of his mouth. And this is how, because the demon can't create. So this was, in this particular worship, this is how he did it, this ancient God. Because again, that they,

They take, anyway. They take what? Well, it's the power of regeneration. It's the unity of male and female that most approximates the life-giving love of the internal life of the Trinity, the mystery of what God was doing before he created, living in himself sufficient,

but out of love creating us, and the angels to serve us. And to serve him and to be custodians over creation. And so we see this type of mockery from the beginning. Now, some of the main deity that you'll see in the Old Testament, we see it play out in different cultures. The second century, there was a church writer named Tortulian in Africa.

He's writing like 150, 180 AD. And he talks about it. the five prefects the five prefects or five generals in hell that satan um who has you know um has five generals that underneath him and roughly speaking now different exorcists and different writers have speculated who these these five are but more or less you'll see you'll see a pattern and the beginning is ball um which means lord or husband Right. And Josea, we say, you know, no longer you call your God's my all, but my husband, right? You will call me my husband. You know, God is the Lord. God is the Lord. God is the spouse. You know, Israel was in a spousal relationship with God. So Ball is constantly, so Ball is, is, is, militates against that spousal's relationship. So Ball is the principal. So Ball is the principal. demon of impurity, impurity. So that's the first thing that comes. And the actions of Ball is to separate

the procreative act to its intended natural law end, which is children. So he's separating sex from procreation. But he's a demon of impurity. And they come in different names. They get repurposed, recycled, and different names in different cultures and different time periods. After ball as modius as modius is the principal demon of homosexuality male homosexuality so once you separate procreation from the marital act sex becomes only ordered towards individual pleasure then sex between men you know as st paul says in romans um they begin lusting men for men and women for women after as modius um is leviathan principal deity deity deity of female homosexuality, of the masculine kind.

And then Lilith, which we see playing out in scripture, Astura, Ishtar, Inana, these are different names for her. This is the seductive but female lesbian and bisexual and female lesbianism. And then finally, the fifth general, if you will, is in the modern period we call them Baphomet, which is a repurposing in many ways and shares many of the characteristics of Mollick, which is a child, which is a god of child sacrifice.

Now the three main ones, Baal, Ishtar, or Astra, and Mollick are the three main ones that the Israelites kept falling into. One was used, fertility, for divine favors, you know, for war, fertility. and to appease in times of great need. So those are the, roughly speaking, again, it gets complex. So is this, these gods are, is this almost like a hierarchy of specific sins? Does that make, like, if you were to put every genre of sin into some type of, some type of, for lack of a better word, a kingdom, chain of command, a organization of demons.

you have this sounds like you have one head demon or false god and then five generals over that specific sin that would distribute their kingdom into the end of five now other writers ecclesia writers but had seven i mean so there's a there's a child sacrifice well that is that's a sin right so at the top of that sin is is mulloch right yeah so how did how did how did how did how did Ball, Moloch, Ishtar, all these false guys. I mean, how did they, how do they get the word out to the people, that they want people to sacrifice children? They want them to engage in homosexuality.

And all that, how do they, I mean, how does it come about? Well, I think they, I mean, man is, as St. Augustine said, is created towards God. Our hearts are restless that they find only rest in God and him. And so man is created, philosophically, as a homo-religiosis. Man is a religious being, and man is religious by nature. We're made from God. We come from him.

Image and likeness and something about us drives us back to union with him, you know? Like, remember the iron, you've probably shown your kids that show the Iron Giant, right? In the end, he blows up, and then he's starting to re-bring himself back together to God. And we're kind of like that. We're blown up as humans. but little by little we bring ourselves back together and we're driven back to God. And so they present

some aspect of God, or some aspect of connection with the divine or with the other, the preternatural. And the pagan Gentiles, at this time, I'm talking about the Old Testament, they didn't have the true God. That was Israel's job to go into the nations

and through their holdings, convert the nations. And it wasn't until Israel failed, right? And those who failed did not, that the church now became the new Israel. That to the church is going to be proclaimed to the nations. That is the movement from Judaism to proclaim to the Gentiles. And this is what was most striking here as we go into the Christmas season. You listen to the readings at Mass, and it's talking about going to the Gentiles.

And the nations, the pagan nations. And these are the people that the Jews couldn't believe it. They called them dogs, right? They're filthy dogs. You've been in the Middle East. You know what those dogs are like. They're not nice creatures. They're wicked.

They're half jackal. They're scavengers. And this is the way the Jewish people saw the Gentiles. And so God is going to offer a new covenant to these, these dogs. Jesus himself, when he, the woman, she was a Greek woman, a Syrophonician woman, goes to Jesus. My daughter is possessed. I can't give to the little dogs what belongs to the children, right, to test your faith.

Now, that little dog is a loaded phrase, because when Moses tells the people, when they go into the promised land, don't do in the land of Canaan, right? As, you know, don't do their, don't do their types of worship. You don't offer a harlot's price or a dog's fee. right so talking about temple prostitution and what is the dog right there's even you know it's male male temple prostitutes right don't have sex like they do right don't have sex with your mom don't have sex don't have sex don't it's ancestral stuff that that you know what how does a dog copulate a dog copulate indiscriminately right and so that's what the dogs did and so and so

Jesus is in this case testing her faith right even the She says, even the dogs get a scrap, you know, from the table. So these old gods keep resurfacing. And again, I mentioned a two of them, we'll go into the other gods, but there was a performance artist, and I forget what he even calls himself. His name was P. Oridge, what was it, Genesis P. Oridge of all things. And he did that, the same thing. Some sources say that he ingested his own semen daily.

He and his wife call themselves they, androgynous, the perfect, they're the perfect human and they altered their bodies to be surgically to mirror each other some strange way come i mean you can't make it up you can't make it up they're the great he-she this goes all the way back to egypt and so yeah but it begins with impurity and introduces homosexuality and then after that child sacrifice so they would sacrifice they would do different and rituals, you know, Ball, Ashtar, and Malik, and at some form. Sometimes it's Milcom, the Mobites, or Chimash, you know, but it's those basic are the big three in the Old Testament that keep resurfacing in the life of Israel.

Where are they today? They're still here. People still worshiping them? Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Because there's power. they can get they can get power ritualistic sex is you know you know the word or you know

what is ritualistic sex well it's either it's either done um as part of initiation right i've known people of contacts say i i did you know go down to a cemetery and have sex on top of a pentagram and that's that's ritualistic sex with a prostitute or with another member of the church you know That's ritualistic sex. Orgy's, you know, like the Dionysian riots, you know, other stuff you hear about. What I found kind of interesting is the word orgy, or gay, right, is the Greek word for wrath. It's this, it's not this loving, sweet, you know, Luther Vandross in the background's quiet, sacred moment. This is violent sex we're talking about, ritualistic.

I never, you know, you're about like the P.D.D.D. Parties, that didn't sound like a very loving environment. No. You know what I mean? But that, whether they did it ritualistically or not, sometimes it was ritualistic. With, with Ball, it would be more ritualistic. With the astra, it's going to be more in the groves. It's going to be more in the woods. You know, the Dionysian rituals kind of fall into that. Bisexual, you know, these ancient rituals go way back. The Roman historian Livy describes this cult coming in. By cult, I mean a type of worship, okay, that this deity of this deity from the east, from the Greeks named Dionysus, right? And so he would, they were, part of it was they were, they were, they were, they were, again, demons are agents of chaos so they were antinomian is the name it's a fancy word i spent a lot of money to learn fancy words so i got to drop them once in a while okay so an omas is law or norms anti means against so their rituals are deliberately prescribed to challenge norms sexual norms gender norms

um um societal norms slaves and masters in this case you know and so they would they would It started off being women going in, and their leaders, the main ones that led it were called Minats, when we get maniac, right? And they would be wine and some scholars think might have been, you know, laced with primitive narcotics to get into an altered state and then turned into these orgies, right? And so, again, against the norms. Greek women were always kept very close in the house. So they go out, their hair out, they party, they have sex, you know.

Men started wanting to join. This is Livy, okay, the Roman historian. He's describing this period in Roman history. And men started joining, and they had to challenge norms. If you want to be in a women's group, you have to lose your men. manhood. And so, and Livy describes this scenario, and I've got a copy as I'll give them to if you want to read what he says, but he says, yeah, and they would beat the drums loudly because those who resisted that were taken into caves and slaughtered, sacrificed. So, wicked.

So it comes into Rome this way, and it gets, it gets kind of filtered into the God Bacchus and then Lieber, but he warns the Senate about letting this into the Roman Roman Roman, Roman citizenry. So it gets morphed and changed a little bit for the taste of the Romans, but we see it moving through. But again, the Olympic ceremony was that. Beelzebub, that's one of the names of Satan. That's, I mean, the primordial, oh God. We see, did you see the image of a fly coming down? You know, a performance artist had a costume of a fly coming down on a string, you know, that kind of looked like Beelzebub to me, the Lord of the Flies, the Lord of the Dung Heat.

What's interesting, you go back to sexuality. Do you think these people know what this is? I don't know. I think some of them do. I think some of them are, as what Stalin would call, useful idiots. And I think some of them know precisely what they're doing, the Goddard tunnel. That, if you ever look that up, if you don't understand, if that doesn't strike you as wicked, that ceremony that was there.

What was there? It was just same stuff. It was the same kind of occultic satanic imagery and opening up with this tunnel, you know? Or, yeah, so we see these images, you know. Beel de Blas interesting is the demon of impurity and the demon of fear. And so he's...

In particular, very, very powerful today, very common in many of our cases, is this particular one. And so the Old Testament, you'll read, you'll see Beelzebub, and the new testes, it's Beelzebul. Okay. And so his real name is Beelzebel. And it's the Lord of the House, the Lord of the Temple. So it's a mockery of the Holy Spirit. The Lord, God alone, His presence, his Shikana presence, the glory cloud, dwelling in the tabernacle,

or he is the Lord of the House. not him so the so in the old testament you'll see it often translated bills above not the lord of the house the lord of the flies lord of the dung heap the lord of refuse and so um and so that's where you see this name you'll see the difference in that name but it's a demon of impurity and fear came in on the sky once the priest asked me i told him this out this out this case is track and i write it out and I explain it. This is the problem. This is who you're up against. Here's his vulnerabilities. He's going to be vulnerable on Mondays. He's going to be vulnerable to our lady of Guadalupe. His feast he's coming up. He's going to be vulnerable to, because if he's the Lord of the

flies, right? If he's, if he is mockery of the Holy Spirit, then he's going to have a vulnerability to the Virgin Mary because who is the spouse of the Holy Spirit, who, you know, it was to the Holy Spirit that she conceived the godman. So I give this reading to him and I write it out and the priest starts going after it. And right in the middle of the priest's, the priest is hammering it.

He starts correcting the priest. That's not my name. And then he looks at me and he corrects my Hebrew because my Hebrew was sloppy. It was not correct. I didn't put the suffix. I didn't spell it out phonetically correctly.

Corrects my Hebrew. It goes back to the priest, corrects him. Goes back to me, looks at me, looks back at the priest. Nobody knew that email went out. But that's the guy. That's who we're... Damn. The Lord of the Flies.

Why do you... I mean, why do you... So, I'm still relatively new at this, but I'm fascinated by the subject. I want to learn more about it. You know, but there's not a lot of... When you don't want to have learned, isn't... There are not a lot of people that know. about ball ishtar molluk yeah there's not i mean there's a um darren my editors we've talked to him

about this for years um Jeremy my producer he met him me talked to him about this stuff a little bit but but you know if you go out and start just asking you know man i would say random people but but family member people that are close to me that there's not a lot of people that know this stuff but you know that would what's the people that do seem to know about it are powerful people very powerful people what do you i mean what's your take on this you've been in this for a long time yeah it sure seems that way why is that well i think i think it's power i think so did they get the you know where i'm getting did they get the power from from worshipping that, or did they have the power? And that is what attracted the demon.

No, I mean, look down in Mexico. I read an article not long ago that the police down there are, the federalities are now going to Santo Morte for protection, right? For protection against, they're abandoning their Catholic faith to go, because they can get power and protection more quickly, you know. That's so, so it's the expectation. but I, it's, it's the, it's thirst for power is what draws people there at some sort. And that power comes, um, through these rituals. So how, I mean, how do they find this stuff out? I think, I mean, I don't know anything about this, you know, and in, in, it didn't take much on the internet to search to find to figure the stuff out.

I mean, there's just not, I mean, full police forces. I mean, there is now in New Mexico, but you, maybe not all of them, but there are, there are some that are doing it. But again, everything's a mockery. What is Saint-Muerte, right? It's often an image of our lady Guadalupe and a skull. And who is she? The New Eve, right? Prophecated, but we talked to the very first segment, Genesis 315.

She is the one who will crush the head of the serpent. She is, you know, she is perfect virginal purity. She is the mother of the redeemer. She is the daughter of the father, the spouse of the Holy Spirit, that even sees it this way. He sees it very clearly this way. And so he's going to militate directly against that through something, weren't it? It's a mockery of the Virgin Mother.

And so that's why she's very powerful in this day and age. This is why she's a powerful image. Because she, in this, in her person, in her perfect purity, she militates against. This is why she's there at nearly every extraction because of her unique place in the mystical body. And the demon knows that. Because she embodies something, a deeper spiritual reality that we don't see.

I did my doctoral thesis on New Eve and the image of a woman in John's Gospel and some early church fathers and Song of Songs. You remember the Song of Songs? It's a love poem, you know, and how this image of woman is reflected and gets developed over time. and Mary as New Eve. So, we're in a session with this particular case. And I said, okay, Father, read, have your deacon read John chapter two, the wedding feast of Cana. Because he calls his mother woman, all right?

On the third day, which is, began in John's Gospel on the first day, the beginning of creation. The beginning was the word. And then three times, John says the next day, the next day, the next day, So now we're on the seventh day. We're getting a new creation in the nuptial wedding feast where Jesus is approached for wine instead of the bridegroom, and there is no mention of a bride except for his mother.

We have God seeing the perfection of humanity and her wedding himself as in a new covenant and a wedding in this nuptial embrace with humanity. And he calls for a woman as a New Eve, right? So just read that. And then we, that was like two weeks prior. And then during the session, Father's doing the minor actresses,

and the demon goes ballistic, runs over to the deacon starts screaming at him. I command you to stop reading that, stop reading that. So I walk over and I'm like, dude, the priest shuts it down, makes him stop. Dude, what are you reading? He goes, I'm just reading John Chapter 2 like he told me. Oh, sorry, I forgot.

And then read Revelation, Chapter 11, 19, and then chapter 12, we see John sees a manifestation, he sees a theophani of God, he sees the arc of the covenant, and then he sees the woman cloud with the sun with the moon under her feet, like the image of Arlie of Guadalupe, she appeared. She appeared to the native indigenous people there in the 1500s, right? And she says, when Juan Diego says, who should I tell the bishop you are? He says, in the native tongue, he hears the Spaniard.

here's the name Guadalupe, because there was already a shrank Guadalupe. She says quaglisupae, or something along. I'm the one who crushes the stone serpent. I'm the one who crushes the stone serpent, right? Genesis B. 15. Then I meet a guy a couple weeks ago, struggling terribly with transgender. Then that stone serpent was the demon got quoxalquaddle. If I meet this guy, he's struggling with gender dysphoria.

He's a mess. and he heard me tell one of these stories and he said, I'm a little nervous. I said, why? He said, I just changed my, I turned 18 and I changed my name to Quoxo Guadal. Of all the things that change your name, you know, the demons are territorial.

I said, you need to develop devotion to the lady, our lady of Guadalupe. You need that image in your house to fight this thing all. Just keeps coming back. So, but the bottom line is, they get power through it. But the demon is willing to use anybody that's willing to party with them. He's willing to use them. But you've got various levels of people that know what they're doing.

Wow. It runs real deep. Well, it runs, you know, it's like that, remember the Billy Joel song? We didn't start the fire, you know? I knew people that memorized all those. I didn't, I couldn't. Are you one of them? No.

I like the song, though. I don't want to say it because they'll get stuck in our head who won't be able to get rid of it all day. Yeah, we didn't start this fire. This started from the beginning. It's the same old shoot-em-up. Catechism, the Catholic Church, 409, says all of human history is one of our combat

with the forces of evil. And so we see these same evils resurfacing, but that's end the same patterns. It's impurity, the separation of male and female in the procreative act, homosexuality, male, female, and then, and then shout sacrifice.

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Yeah, right? I mean, it's talked about a lot. Yeah. But you, and I think about this too, but, but God didn't, he didn't like nations, correct? No, he's, he appointed angels to guard the nations. No, I think he, I think order, God is the God of order. It's, it's, it's, it's a disorder. I mean, but isn't the new, isn't the new Israel supposed to be everybody?

No, it's not just. New Israel is a church. According to Catholic Church teaching, supercessionalism is the name. It's another, I can get my money out of that. that word, but it's when the church now is the new Israel, right? The Jerusalem above, she is our mother. The new baptism, I mean, the, you know, St. Paul says, you were circumcised and circumcise your flesh. You were certain that baptism is now, the new circumcision. It's baptism that brings us in the covenant communion with God, no longer circumcision. It's baptism. So is circumcision bad?

No. You just don't have to do it. It's just not, it's not, it's, it's, it pointed to something else. It pointed us to baptism. Circumcision is not bad or good. It's, if you want to make that choice, you know, um, where did the circumcision come from? It came back from the whole point. What's that?

What is the point? Yeah, no, it's just something God prescribed, um, that's a good question, but, but God prescribed circumcision as part of covenant entry into covenant communion. So, and now when you, now the, but again, what happened, St. Paul says, these were the shadows, the reality points to Christ. In Colossians 217, these are the shadows that, the Greek literary says the reality or that points to the body of Christ, the Somo to Christ do, so everything points us. All these old shadows point to the body of Christ, body of Christ on the cross, the body

of Christ in the manger, the body of Christ, the church, the body of Christ in the Eucharist. And so all these, all these shadows. point of reality of Christ. And this is why they would mock. They would, everything, most of the satanic rituals are a mockery of the Eucharist. And there's ancient rituals that go back. The Borberites, Phibonites, you can look these things up.

Epiphanus of Salamis, St. Clement of Alexandria, talk about these infiltrators into the church that were doing Eucharistic, what they call agape meals, Eucharistic celebrations. but instead of a well-ordered, nice Latin Mass, they were having an orgy. And they were doing just the things that we talked about. Smearing of blood, ingesting semen, offering semen to God saying,

this is my body and mockery of the Eucharist. Because it's a mockery of the Eucharist. All these shadows point to the reality of Christ, Jesus Christ in his body. But the occult rituals work in the opposite. You know, we've covered most of this. I wanted to get into witchcraft curses and rituals, but I see, you know, Abramovich in there, that artist.

What is she, there's a lot of talk about her, her paintings, who she's around. Yeah, if you look, again, look at the Borberites. It's similar stuff. It's, it's, you know, Freemasonry is, there's three types of curses, as I mentioned, there's natural curses, there's generational curses, and then there's these praetor natural curses.

Within that, you have things like Freemasonry, Theurgy, alchemy, and these are more Luciferian, just trying to invoke God to, I mean, false gods, constrict, constrict demons, etc. Satan, there's another type we call Rosicrucianism, roughly, or Pelican witchcraft. I mean, the first of Rosicrucian type incantations, and there's what we call Pelican witchcraft. Pelican witchcraft, or those types of witchcrafts used more bodily. Again, a mockery of the Holy Eucharist. And so you'll see bodily things. It's more bodily, blood, et cetera. And so those types of things are highly liturgical, highly symbolic.

Remember, if you go back to the Old Testament, and if you look at the priesthood, what the priest did, There were three separations that set apart the priest, time, space, and status, time separated, set apart, right? Moses says, or God says to Moses, set apart Aaron's sons in Exodus, anoint their hands that they may serve as priest for me. And that word to be holy, to anoint, to set apart. that the word to be holy means to be set apart that calls for all of us need to be set apart in this world to live in holiness but what was set apart time status and space

so we had sacred space you have a tabernacle we have sacred time liturgical calendar and then you have person status priesthood and what the ritual in the old testament understanding and we carry this into new testament you know the new testament and then the catholic liturgy we see ritual brings order where there's chaos. It brings clean where there is unclean, right? It brings life where there is death. It's separating.

Ritual helps to separate these things. That's what ritual does. It's man's engagement with the cosmos. This makes a point. It makes it relevant. So man engages with the cosmos through liturgy, through this separate part, et cetera, separating apart.

So liturgy is important. Catholic Mass is important. The demon knows. We have demons that will manifest on certain feast days every time. And they're vulnerable on certain feast days. Because God always sends help from the mystical body. And the demon tracks the liturgical calendar. The time, space, status, order out of chaos, life out of death, clean from unclean, pure from unpure.

So holiness where there is unholiness. These separations are through liturgy. But the demon works in the opposite. it, constantly bringing death. So you talk about the modern-day Molek, right? Baphomet. And what's his tattoo on his arm? It comes from a couple of centuries ago, alchemy.

Solve et Coagula. To dissolve, break down, and reconstruct, put back together. So that's what the enemy works. So their rituals do the same thing, just in the diabolic inverse of what our literal. does. It's it's it's it's they try to break day party ring chaos where there is order. They try to bring impurity where there's purity, darkness where there is light, unclean where there is clean. So ritual is what stands in between and the the occultists know

this. They know this and so that there's all but that think about that that that principle to break down and to reconstruct and that's what that's what that's where kind of our culture is kind of undergoing to break it down to reconstruct it. the new world order. That's kind of the way it works. Deconstruct it. Right. To break down norms

to reconstruct it to something new. Mm-hmm. Right. I mean, definitely makes sense. I mean, we're seeing it happen. Yeah. We're watching it. They're agents of chaos.

The demon by, in his nature, he's an agent of chaos. That's his, it's in chaos that he is, that he is cast down to the earth, and it's in chaos that he continues to work. That's why, so they're, they're constantly going to move towards, towards chaos to solve it coagula to break it down to be chaos to coagulate something else

at a different way that's not going to be christian you know a lot of people think this stuff is orchestrated by by a group of people or a particular country or maybe a little religious group or something like that what are i mean what are your thoughts and yeah i think that this is all orchestrated. I mean, I don't, I guess what I'm saying is I think a lot of people think that this is potentially orchestrated by humans and all the humans that are that are partaking and dissolving and destructing and rebuilding, whatever we want to call it, they think that they all know each other and it's this elaborate network of human beings. Do you think that, or do you think that all these human beings are being manipulated by a one demon, a group of demons that, and they're the ones that are orchestrating this?

And the human, the human, the human doesn't actually know, even maybe realize that it's being orchestrated. I think probably both and. I think there's, I think there is certain people working towards real destruction. They know exactly what they're doing. You know exactly what they're doing. And there's others that are just willing participants. I mean, not everybody that went to these ancient rituals were there because they had great devotion to this deity.

They went there for the power, for the connection, for the sex, or whatever, you know, with experience. So who knows? I guess what I'm saying is that, yes, I do. I have no idea. But I think it's obvious that there are humans and know exactly what they're doing. doing. I guess what I'm saying is, is, is there any one human who's orchestrating this,

who has the big picture? Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. That has the big picture that's moving the, it's moving the pieces on the chessboard. You do this, you do that, you do this. No, I don't think there's that all, you know, I mean, I know that they know, like, hey, we're worshiping Lucifer. We are. I think there's those that do that willfully and they're happily doing. They've been doing it for probably generations. But they don't understand the magnitude and how it's all orchestrated in coming together. I don't think there's, I don't personally think there's one person. There's not a guy in a talk somewhere. Yeah. No, I don't think there's a guy in a talk anywhere. That's going, no, I do. The guy on the talk is Lucifer himself, correct? Yeah, he's the guy in the

talk. And his five generals are the ones that are directing things. He's not disseminating the information to the humans. No, but I think they're, hey, we're winning. Hey, we're not winning. Yeah, I think there will, I think there's a lot of willful participants in it, you know. I think we have to get beyond the paradigm that we think in terms of Democrat and Republican, we've got to start thinking of the difference between good and evil, the battle is between good and evil. And the demon is going to constantly try to keep the chaos, create confusion. Do you see any symbolism and a lot of this stuff, these Hollywood parties where they're eating food off naked bodies? Oh, yeah. And what is the symbolism there? What does that represent?

Well, again, it's a, it's a mockery of the Eucharist of the mass. This is my body. or you see these paintings that is it uh is it is it is it charles that has the painting of abramovitch and there's like some kind of i can't remember if it's a pentagram or a demon or lucifer himself that's in the painting and you like do you know what but it's hidden it's hidden in the painting yeah well the devil is that real or is that yeah um i mean how much of it is just siops how much is real is probably you know siops is there any coincidence is there any of it a coincidence I don't think there's any coincidence, is it? I mean, I don't either.

You know, I'm not a big proponent that, yeah, I think coincidence we're starting to see things in real time and space. So I think, but I think the battle is, I think the battle is on, and Christ is calling his church to get back to... Do you think that the purchaser of the painting understands what's inside there? You do. Yeah, I do so.

Or there's a... I think the artists just did it. I mean, okay, like Disney, for example. Perfect example. I don't know what they're doing now because I don't really... attention and my kids don't watch disney but you know i remember when i was growing up at some point in time some kid in my school had figured figured out that oh if you look at if you watch aladdin when they rub the genie bottle and the genie pops out it spells sex if you look at

the little mermaid the cover of the little mermaid um you know back in the in the 90s the cover of the movie you know it's a it's it's like a golden castle yeah undersea but if you look closely all of the towers are penises you've seen this no you've seen i mean i remember so there's a ton of this shit yeah there's a i mean i can't remember all of it but i verified all of it when i was in middle school or however old i was i was like holy shit this is all this is actually this is real yeah you know it's not a and so i mean you see this this symbolism everywhere you know i'll tell you another thing that i don't i don't know what to think maybe a long time ago here being my wife and uh and another couple were looking around

at some big big acreages like way way out the middle of nowhere you know five 600 acres we go to this compound and it was you know all these houses small like cabins it was like a big hunt property you know and so we go down there and we're looking all these people like not all these people like two cars flee and we get there there's all these it's like these hippies you know they're like well oh what do you guys do do you own this place but we went through with the realtor you know and they're like oh no we just work here we can the we're we're fermenting food and all this other shit and we go in the cabin there's like no canned nothing yeah what's this is weird so we go down we look at another cabin and walk in there's a golf simulator there's an upstairs we go upstairs

there's this little room and look on the wall and there's a pentagram oh and right under the pentegram there's there's a there's a mattress and on the every point on the pentagram there was these like magazine cutouts of scenes of like scenes of nature like there was a like a mountain view scene like a beach scene at every point on the pentagram was a different landscape photo in a different in a different ecosystem different environment and then there were chairs all around the bed yeah what it what i mean what is that Have you seen that before? Well, no, I've seen it.

We see it, and I'm like, okay. I was with another seal. And his wife still is like, all right, well. Yeah, but I've seen other similar things and properties. And yeah, this is where rituals are taking place, and they're trying to open a portal there. I mean, this is like way, way out in the boonies. Yeah.

Like two and a half hours from anywhere. How do you keep landing? How do you keep ending up on these scenarios? I'm an explorer. Yeah, yeah. I like to. Most people never see this in their lives, and you're catching this stuff. Yeah, those, those, this would have been formalistic, formal rituals to open portal.

What do you mean open a portal? There's certain things you can do to open, open up, open up. Open what comes in or out of the portal? Demons. I mean, that's rituals performed that open up and this space now becomes, the opposite of sacred space. It becomes the opposite of a church where the tabernacle is present,

that has the presence of angels, that has the presence of God there. It's just an opposite of that. Are they aware of when the portal opens? Oh, yeah. Yeah. What happens? Well, I mean, I don't know. I've never been involved, but I imagine they would be aware

that something would happen. But people would be able to hear. At some stage, there is a buyer, there's buyer beware laws that you have to disclose that, you know. Others are buyers beware, but I think some of them you have to disclose if there's anything like that, any evil that ever took place there. Like for real estate, you mean, I mean, so, so yeah, so this would, this would have been a group that would do some sort of rituals to invoke as much evil into the areas they can. Sheesh. Yeah. This is why we need to pray, you know.

Offer our prayers to God. get back to the true faith, get back to the ancient weapons, you know. Jeez. Colts ideologies and distinctions, you know, what is the synagogue of Satan? Yeah, so there's a lot of talk on that today. It's very popular topic, you know, for me, from Scripture, that phrase is used twice. In the book of Revelation, you have two churches there of, of, of the Smyrna and Philadelphia, I think.

In that time period, there would have been intense persecution. People think, we often think in history that Romans persecuted the church. At the beginning, it was largely the Jewish leaders that rejected Christ as Messiah that persecuted the church. And so he, and so this is probably words that St. John wrote about the time of that,

of that was happening. Remember, Revelation says these are the thing that has happened is happening and will happen in the future. Revelation is, it's polyvalent and it's meaning. But so John is writing about what's happening. There are, there are, there are those who claim to be Jews, but they're not, it says. That's the synagogue of Satan. And so for John, he's the same guy that wrote in the end of his gospel, the world can't contain the books that were written, but these things were written so that you might believe that Jesus is the son of God and through him have life in his name. And so those who reject that Jesus as Messiah, that would be the early church and fathers would say those those people of Israel that rejected Christ as Messiah.

They claim to be Jews because the real Jews are as the Christians, a church. Those are the true Jews. Those, you know, Jesus didn't come to abolish it to fulfill. And so, and so Jesus didn't come to what, abolish the law, but to fulfill the law. He fulfills it now. You know, St. Paul writes in the Romans that, um, um, um, being a, that circumcises in something interior, being a Jew, something, and it doesn't, it isn't the external things, it's the spiritual faith that makes us and brings us into the new covenant, the new covenant of, of, of, you know, with God's people,

which includes all the Gentiles, all the pagans that are now brought in. That was, again, shocking in the early church. And so that would be, you know, the other church's reading of that. But elsewhere, two other mentions in Revelation, one is right before one, the first mention in Revelation chapter 2, St. Paul, I mean, St. John says, you've lost the love he had it first, return to that first love, right? We often hear Christians talk about that.

It happens. But he says, but you have this in your favor. You hate the Nicolaetans because I also hate them, right? Well, the Nikolaitans were several of church fathers mentioned the Nikolaitans as descendants of Nicholas, one of the first deacons, seven deacons, ordained Nicholas, who was a convert from Judaism, to Judaism. So, and there's several church fathers write about that he apostatized over trying to live celibacy and various things. And so he ended up falling back into paganism and doing some of these occult ritual sex things, et cetera. And so he is considered the founder of some of the, again,

the Vorbarites we mentioned and some of the things that they described that he did. And these sexual rituals they're talking about. So the antinomian, that's what it is. It's against the laws, against the norms. And so this kind of ritualistic stuff was taking place even then. And I think that's what John was alluding to with the Goliathens, according to,

the church, some of the church fathers. And then, but if you also look at another place, a lot of place in Revelation, the things that are happening, that did happen and will happen, talks about the whore, the whore of Babylon and the beast, right? And so what do we see there? Who is, who was the whore in Old Testament? Well, this is what the prophets called Israel when they were unfaithful. You whore Israel. You were a prostitute. You prostituted yourself to the nations. Well, what did he mean by that? Well, those who honor false gods. So what is true love of God at seeing in the song of songs and a chaste nuptial embrace? So now, the opposite of covenant fidelity is the embrace of love. The opposite of that is the infidelity of idol worship, which the prophets

called hortem, or prostitution. And so you see, the corrupt church or the corrupt religiously, with the beast, the corrupt government. So for me, you see this interplay throughout history. So the synagogue of Satan is anywhere you see this mutual self-corruption of the deep church and the Jeep state. You could say, look, look at the president of Mexico. She goes to this ceremony, a cleansing ceremony, right? I don't know anything about this.

Yeah, she went through a, you know, she went through a ceremony a ceremony of so-called, you know, it was a pagan witchcraft ceremony. Cleansing? Yeah, some kind of cleansing ceremony. Publicly, she went through it. So she claims to be Jewish and she goes through this religious ceremony because now the detractors say, oh, no, no, no, that's just, they're just doing something because that's kind of indigenous. And so it's just this, to me, you have corruption.

You have a cult, you have religious leaders, church leaders. blending together, you know. And then you see what I think was Taylor Swift with the 2013-2015 Super Bowl and won him for performances, dressed in a scantily dressed, dressed with, I think, flames on it, riding the back of this big golden beast.

Again, the devil hides in plain sight. So I think you're always going to see this corruption and militating against the truth. I mean, that kind of brings me to the next category. which is another one that I've really really been wanting to talk selling souls and celebrity examples yeah that's what I was getting at earlier oh okay trading for power yeah absolute trading for power what's um you know again um I mean can you sell your soul yeah yeah you can how um the the the the commonality that we hear the demon the devil comes and talks walks up to someone and says

you have what it takes. There's several famous, one in particular, I know that that's exactly what happened. A guy walks up to her, she was trying to, she was performing a little level, you know, a little level artist, and she's just distraught late after a performance outside of a club or something. A guy in a black suit walks up, a hat, fedore, whatever,

kind of classic, you have what it takes. Maybe not have what it takes. And so, you know, any exchanges. You know, you have what it takes to trade this world. You trade your soul for something in this, for something in this world, for something temporal. Trade the eternal for the temporal. That's kind of the trait, so to speak.

And so it kind of goes back to, was it, the word, the song Crossroads, the old blues song that says that he describes selling his soul for musical talent. And so we, I forget his name, Robert. Anyway, one of the famous blues artists that supposedly did this.

And so there's been several after that. John Lennon, for example, said, I'm not sure about the selling his soul, but I know he's got a picture on a Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club band album. There's one of the pictures in the background is Alistair Crowley. It was on December 8th, 1980, his last interview.

Now, for most people, people that doesn't mean anything to them until catholic december 8th that's the feast of the immaculate conception right the what the immaculate conception when when when the angel gabriel appeared to the virgin mary and said you know um kaira caritomene in gree abe gratia plain and land hail full of grace the lord is with the we get the words of the hell mary and announces and waits for her to say let it be done to me according to thy wording god became incarnate god became now man um So anyway, so the announcing of the Incarnation, December 8th is the feast when we recall that in the readings. But the Immaculate Conception is the readings we read there, but Mary prepared and preserved from the stain of original sin.

So when she, you know, she was preserved from the stain by the merits of Jesus Christ, who was out of time, preserves her from the stain of original sin. As he said in Genesis 315, I will put enmity between the woman and the serpent. And so this preservation of sin meant that she was completely sinless. So December 8th is the day that marks the, when the angel, that she would, that marked her conception when she was conceived in her parents, in her mother's womb, and prepared her to receive Christ. Okay. So, so December 8th, the Immaculate Conception, celebrating this great feast is the day that john lennon has his last interview and in that

interview he he admits that something something comes over me you know i i admit that i think he says something like i'm possessed when i write songs you know and then that day he walks out and is assassinated and so they asked the every one of the patrol parole healer hearings for this uh I forget his name, that shot Lennon. Why did you do it? He said, I don't know. I just realized I would do anything to be famous. He said, I had voices telling me to shoot him.

So there's been other actresses, actors that have said that, that would say, that have sold their soul, you know, that have said they've admitted, or a demon takes over me when I perform. Beyonce says that. Beyonce says that? Yeah, if she said in interviews, something just takes over me she also scribes to that uh it's an it's an it's an african

it's an ancient african religion that's kind of synchritic that came it made its way through into cuba um so so that that um santeria so there's this new guy out there that does a rap song and all the young people are saying this word six seven have you heard that a little kids are supposedly there's a there's a kind of a panic among christian parents because this is a spreading this guy's a this guy's a known you know just not a not a nice guy according to police standards okay he's a rapper and so and he and he's a known practitioner he says i'm a santero i do this this is what i do and his dad was he learned this religion from his dad and they're describing it and and you know what are these nobody ever is speculating on what do these

numbers mean you know like we talked about uh whether four four fours yep four four yeah So this numerology, what are these numbers symbolize? So I don't know. It's a lot of speculation. But I'll give you my theory if you want to hear it. I love to. You want to hear some crazy shit? Yeah.

You're not going to think it's crazy with everything you've seen. Yeah. This year we've had 44 million, 44.4.4 million watchtime hours on Spotify. Just a coincidence. Is that crazy? That's incredible. I think it's watch time. I'm going to grab my phone and pull it up, but it's like 44.4 million, like, listening hours or watch hours, something. What does the, what does four symbolize? Well, when I looked it up, it said that the, your guardian angels want you to know that they're watching out for you.

Okay. Which is weird because that showed up right after a conversation I had, right when I found Christ, with a really good friend of mine who's Catholic that said, you need to know that you need to know that you. you have guardian angels watching over you and they've been with him right after that that's when that popped up the guardian angels they're like snipers you you can't see them just when you need them you're sure glad they're there yeah so so yeah so yeah so that symbol it's a the 4-4-4 also symbolizes the the four the four corners of the earth hmm you know you're bringing 44.4 million reaching the four corners of the earth with this this wonderful podcast everybody I know who loves this podcast, a great podcast. Thank you.

Yeah. So, so these numbers, these numbers, numbers have symbols, you know. Even the, even the Hebrew numbers, the Hebrew letters had symbols. I mean, each symbol had their own numerology, you know. I mean, when somebody, when somebody comes up to you in a suit and a hat that says, I think you've got what it takes. And they tell you. Want you to, what do they say?

We want you to trade your soul for something in this world. Well, I don't think that's the language. I don't think that's the language itself, but I think there's an offer made in one given. Robert Johnson, that's the name, the Crossroads. He describes it that he sold his soul. So other artists have done that. Other artists have done that.

They admit it. They admit it. And I'll go back to 6-7 because that's this latest thing, right? Well, I mean, we'll go back to that. But, I mean, is it all spelled out right there, or is it a trap? I think it's... You get the president of the United States out there saying all over TV that he is not going to heaven. What do you think that means?

I hope it's just, I hope it's a bit of humility and a pinch of conscience and he wants to, after his term, spend his life glorifying God in prayer and conversion. Maybe, but I mean, when somebody just says, oh, something comes over me, I mean, that could be. just a yeah yeah i've probably said that when i'm doing something good if i'm shooting good i don't you know what i mean or i'm in a flow state and in a killhouse or something i probably say the same damn thing yeah i think i think a lot of people have said that yeah yeah well the fear of the i'm not saying you're wrong i yeah the fear of the lord is the beginning of wisdom you know and i think the spiritual life conversion really begins when you recognize the spiritual battle it's it's that guy in the mirror you know it's you look in that picture of you in a helicopter

you know that sits over your shoulder right there it's me looking in the mirror and seeing my face that's the real badass where it begins we focus too much on what the demon's doing instead of focusing on what do i got to do you know i'm i'm a sinner you know and and the reality is if it weren't for the for the grace of god we would be annihilated we had no chance no chance you know but with the grace of god you know i mean what i'm asking is do you think that they do you think they all know that they've sold their soul i think is it a trap it's no is it a blackmail operation hey you went to upstein island now you're going to keep going or else we're just going to tell everybody i think it begins with i think that's a great question i think it begins with oh

that was a that was a 15 year old that you just fucked right there right i bet you didn't know that did you yeah well bet you didn't know you're on camera too you want to watch it again yeah yeah you know what i mean and and so that that's that is a maybe not an innocent person but they they got they got fucking trapped yeah you know what i mean yes did they engage in sin did they realize it was going to be that yeah maybe maybe not yeah yeah and then and then and then because of fear of being judged by man, then they go farther. So is that how it happens, or is it very clear guidelines like a, like a, like a, like a law-abiding contract, you're going to do this and we're going to give you everything you want?

I think there's some, or is it both? I think it's probably both. I think it's volitional for it to stick. It's going to have to be volitional. I mean, I choose this. whether it's in writing or not or whether what you know but there will always be a pound of flesh and the problem is when you try to get out of one of these deals that's when that's when the stuff kicks up as long as you're participating then then you keep getting yours but the minute you try to

get out it gets that's when the demon says i don't think so can you get out yeah in god's eyes can you get out yes yeah the devil's eyes is always no but we you know the demon has no rights to us us. If you're baptized by right, your soul belongs to God. Belongs to God the Father and belongs through Jesus Christ, right? Water and spirit regenerated, you belong to God now. If, if, if, and so, but we offer him permissions and we have to undo those permissions. And, and sometimes goes back to the original question, um, that there's, sometimes there's a, there's, there's a temporal punishment for that. There's a, there's, there's, there's, there's penance that needs to be done. too many people go through these

there's people that come out of the occult come out of Satanism and suddenly they want a podcast I want to be the next Sean Ryan I don't know maybe you should spend some time in prayer and penance you know spend some time doing penance for that pray and reparation right preparation for the sins you committed and so I'm not judging people because we're all sinners but there is a there is a time for that

but yeah when you try to get when you get out of that I think I think you have you have a you have um sometimes it's written um but i think largely it's something spoken okay it's something spoken but when you try to get out that's when you that's when you get hit and it's kind of like you know it's it's when that movement of conversion and that's when the demon says you're not getting out so whether it's a spiritual affliction you're going to suffer constant you know a kind of the demon is just going to pound you down like a like a if you really understand that the interplay between the fallen angel and the fallen human look at a at the relationship between like a an abusive couple

you know an abusive relationship by the time the lady behind the cops show up you know the house is a mess and you know he's got scratched on his face she's got a black eye and then she says don't take him away i love him it's my fault so you got to get to that so and then what happens and then the guy comes back and beats the crap out of her just to keep her in submission. So she tries to get out, he beats her up again, and she drops. So the same thing, the demon does the same thing. We try to get out, we make our movement back

to God. You know, I had a lady, she left a, she's a sister of a good friend of mine, and she had just drifted you know, like many people, she drifted. And was suffering movements to conversion, but

suffering, even worse. And she finally just cried out, Lord, when are you going to come for this lost sheep? And in that humility, I couldn't, I got a PhD, a master's degree, I've got a pretty good handle, Greek and Latin. I couldn't have written a better prayer. When are you going to come for this lost sheep? And she has been flooded with graces, flooded with graces. So we always, always have the day profoundest privilege, Psalm 130, out of the depths, I cry to you, O Lord. And so that's why it's a foot race to the end.

The demon's going to try to keep you away from making that conversion, but he can't. Ultimately, even possession, liberation from possession is self-liberation, even if you need an exorcist, a little assistance from the church, it's your, you have to be the active agency in your own liberation. So that crying out to God and have mercy on me a sinner. That's part of our protocol, praying, you know, have mercy on me a sinner. So, yeah, it can. You can sell your soul, but you can have it back. But again, you talk about the old gods? So I remember I studied Latin in high school, right?

And we're reading about the old myths of the ancient worlds. And at that time, that great singer, Charlie Dan, Daniels was out, you know, and that song, The Devil went down to Georgia. And so our Latin teacher, he was a great man, Vietnam veteran, tough guy. He said, you know, this is nothing new. Selling your soul for musical talent, this challenge of the devil. He tells us the story of, we might even have translated. I don't remember now.

There was a Minotaur who found a discarded flute that one of the gods had dropped. And he challenges the God of Music. to, to, which is Apollo, to, um, a battle who, you know, a battle who can play to try to, and the winner could name the price, right? And so he, he loses to Apollo, and Apollo for his punishment, flays him alive. I thought, and I was just thinking about that on this, this topic, and I started thinking about, now this is, again, this is just my, my speculation on this one, okay. But I was thinking about the apostle Bartholomew. We have one apostle, one of the apostles, Bartholomew, was martyred by being flayed alive in Armenia. So I looked up, who was

the principal, and he converted the king of Armenia. Who was the principal deity of Armenia at the time of Bartholomew? And it was, I think the demon's name was Tier, who was their version of Apollo. he was also the god of music and he flayed him alive that was his martyrdom maybe it's a coincidence you know maybe it's a coincidence wow now that's faith by the way that's faith that's suffering for christ so so yeah so we see other other stars have have sold their souls and made these deals i've seen them resurface cases you know one particular famous one in the 60s was

was was was killed and she and one of the persons associated with her and her team that was killed with her the grandson of that person came back circled back in as

afflicted and her his grandfather was an attorney for this this person and was getting getting her out of the Diabolic Pact and breaking off this relationship. So, this stuff resurfaces. Wow.

Resurfaces. The devil takes it very seriously, but to your point, but he's going to try to tell you, you can't get out of it. Yeah, you can. There's nothing. There's nothing that you've done that Jesus Christ can't forgive.

That's the good news. Wow. Yeah. Wow. I read the Bible from beginning and the end. And you know what? the end we went you know so we just have to keep fighting it's just keep fighting how do we fight prayer holiness um living the gospel the best we can growing growing in the virtues um fasting that old

ancient old thing that we don't like to do small sacrifices living our faith focusing on our families what god has given to us our own where god has placed us influence our own where god has placed us influence in the world the best we can from wherever we're at, whether it's podcasting or teaching or whatever, bringing the gospel to the four corners 44.4 million times into our last dying breath. Right on. Yeah.

Well, Dan. We didn't even get to the list, did we? What list? Did we even get to our questions? Oh, Dan. Did we get through them? Almost all of it. Yeah.

So, is there anything else you want to cover? Oh, no, I'm here at your service. So, yeah, I think the big thing is here is, St. Paul says, don't even discuss the deplorable works of darkness, but expose them. And so it's not something we should focus on and talk about, but the reality is real. But also the greater reality, again, the demon is tertiary in the spiritual combat, the primary focus is Jesus Christ. We have to stay focused on Christ and not approach this through

curiosity, but approach it through, you know, to understand that it's through this that we become holier, that we become more perfect in the spiritual life, that we become better Christians, better fathers, better wives, husbands, children, aunts, uncles, be the best person we can, the best version of ourselves, be Christ in the world the best way we can and not, you know, it's the devil's going to try to get us focused so much on him that we you know we lose sight of that and we have to stay focused on that and have hope be of good cheer you know one of my buddies sent me uh there was a firefight in in afghanistan and um i think it was two marines and you they were behind this big rock and you can see the rounds hitting and they were turning

looking and turning and one of them said something funny and you couldn't hear what he said you could just hear the fire and so they just started laughing you You know, they start laughing. And it isn't that they're fearless Marines or fearless soldiers, you know, it's that you recognize you have to have peace. You have to laugh. I'm sure you have plenty of cases, times where you're just laughing at the most inopportune time. But you make friends with death, you know, you make peace with the Lord,

and take what you do very seriously, but have joy. Have joy in that, you know. And so I think that to me is the key takeaway and all this darkness that we see in the world. Be of good cheer, I have overcome the world. We talk about Christmas is coming up. This is when we celebrate light coming into the world. The savior of the world is coming.

The savior of the world. Ironically, December 25th is the, this is what some of the church fathers say. This is the winter solstice, that the sun is at its lowest point, the lowest point, where the darkness is over the earth in proportion to the sun, right? This is the lowest point of the light of the light of the world, which is exactly nine months prior at the spring equinox, when the sun, which is March 25th,

when the sun and the darkness are equal, except the sun has a slight advantage. March 25th is the enunciation when the angel Gabriel announced to the Virgin Mary that she would conceive a son 25 months. nine months later on the 25th of December. And so the Church Father saw this, that God is reclaiming the cosmos,

that darkness is giving way to light, that the darkness and man gives way to the light of the Son, the Son of God. That's the symbolism. Advent. Adventus means arrival, coming. It also means, the Greek word equivalent, means presence, Christ's presence in the Eucharist, Christ's presence in the church. We look at His earthly coming, and when he, in Christmas, we celebrate the child as coming in humility.

And that second coming, we anticipate him coming in glory, coming in judgment. And we look to the east for that second coming that we see in our own journey. We're no different than Israel. We're just as unfaithful as they are, looking and being faithful to what God has given us. And reuniting, rekindling that fire of our love for Jesus Christ. I think that's the big thing that we should get ready for as we anticipate the coming of Christ and Christmas. I'm sure Lee will say it much more eloquently than I can. He's a preacher.

I'm a teacher. But let's get ready for Christmas and prepare and focus on Christ. That sounds good. I love what you said about taking a look in the mirror too. Yeah. That's the real battle. That's the guy that I'm really, that's like St. Paul says, that's the old self, man. That old guy keeps coming around.

And it's a constant battle. It's a constant struggle. But that's the spiritual life. we gotta get that guy under get that guy subdued first yeah see it was g k chesterton was a there was a contest a writing contest at the newspaper what's wrong with the world an essay contest and he submits he submits a piece of paper it says what's wrong with the world i am i'm what's wrong with the world so beginning with me you want to change the world change yourself and change your family yeah they have one at a time yeah love it yeah yeah

well dan thank you for cover man i can't wait to see again good man i'm i love i love where you're at i love it's so beautiful um it's just it's gorgeous country over here scott's country right here so i anytime just give me excuse i'll be back i will i will send you plenty of excuses okay but thank you merry christmas thank you thank you No matter where you're watching Sean Ryan Show from, if you get anything out of this, please like, comment, subscribe, and most importantly, share this everywhere you possibly can. And if you're feeling extra generous, please leave us review on Apple and Spotify podcasts.