Shawn Ryan Show - #284 Schlep - EVERY Parent Needs to Watch This

Episode Date: March 2, 2026

Schlep, real name Michael, is a 22‑year‑old YouTuber and content creator known for his hard‑hitting investigations exposing child predators on Roblox. Through sting operations and decoy accounts..., his channel has uncovered widespread grooming networks using the platform to target minors. A survivor of Roblox grooming himself—exploited as a young teen by a prominent developer once promoted and partnered with the company. Schlep turned his personal trauma into a mission for accountability. His YouTube channel has directly contributed to multiple arrests of alleged predators who used Roblox to move victims to Discord for explicit content and real‑world encounters. A vocal critic of Roblox’s safety failures and profit‑driven approach to its child‑heavy user base, Schlep has consistently challenged the company’s moderation practices and its pattern of deplatforming whistleblowers. In August 2025, Roblox permanently banned him and issued a cease‑and‑desist letter threatening legal action, triggering the viral #FreeSchlep movement and major online backlash. Despite being banned from the platform, Schlep continues his predator‑catching work independently, collaborating with law enforcement to secure convictions and raising awareness of how Roblox profits from developer programs that can enable exploitation. Today, he is a leading advocate for stronger child safety laws and transparency in online gaming, exposing the gap between Roblox’s “safe and educational” image and its systemic moderation failures. Shawn Ryan Show Sponsors: Head to https://Superpower.com and use code SRS at checkout for $20 off your membership. Live up to your 100-Year potential. #superpowerpod Try ZipRecruiter for free at https://ziprecruiter.com/SRS Sign up and get 10% off at https://BetterHelp.com/SRS #ad Go to https://drinkag1.com/srs to get an AG1 Flavor Sampler and a bottle of Vitamin D3+K2 for FREE in your AG1 Welcome Kit with your first AG1 subscription order! Only while supplies last. Our listeners get the Harry’s Plus Trial Set for only $10 at https://harrys.com/srs #Harryspod Schlep Links: YT - https://www.youtube.com/@RealSchlep X - https://x.com/intent/follow?screen_name=realschlep Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:02 Get ready for a heavy one. I have been waiting a long time to meet this guy. Ever since Ryan Montgomery came on the show and told us about all the shenanigans that are going on with the game Roblox. And he brought up a gentleman that goes by the name Schlep. We kind of kicked this whole thing off. And so finally got to meet him. Amazing, amazing human being. Wouldn't expect anything less from somebody referred.
Starting point is 00:00:32 to me by Ryan Montgomery, but I just want to warn you, this is an extremely heavy episode. And we had to pull a couple of parts because it's not YouTube friendly, and that's not a blast of YouTube. This stuff is super heavy, man, like really, really heavy. And if you're a parent, you need to watch this, especially if you're a parent. you need to watch this, especially if you have a kid that's on the game Roblox. So if you want to see the uncensored version, it's on Vigilance League Patreon. I will be honest, probably 95% or more of the content.
Starting point is 00:01:19 The original content is on YouTube, but there's just these small little portions that just we can't put it out on YouTube. And here's why. We can't put it out on YouTube because if this gets pulled down, it will be detrimental to potentially millions of kids and millions of parents who are trying to protect their kids. And we don't want to take that chance. So the meat's in there. Everything you need to know is in this episode, but if you want, if you want the real nasty stuff that's going on, it's on Patreon. Well, that being said, I just want to tell you, my guy. goal and Schlepp's goal is just to save kids. That's what this is about. This isn't about numbers.
Starting point is 00:02:07 This isn't about money. This isn't about anything but protecting kids. I think as time goes on and we see the stuff with this Epstein stuff, roadblocks, exploitation, all that kind of stuff that's going on with our children needs to be exposed. And that's what we're doing. I hate to say this, but enjoy the show. Pleasure to be here. Dude, I've been waiting a long time for this. I have too. I have two.
Starting point is 00:02:44 So our mutual friend, Ryan Montgomery, told me about you in the last episode. And man, I just think the world of Ryan, and we were chatting about him at breakfast. And, man, there just are not very many hearts in the world. that are more genuine than that guys. And he spoke very highly of you. And you guys sound very similar. The most important thing is saving kids. And it's not about getting money for a fucking nonprofit.
Starting point is 00:03:22 It's not about monetizing shit. It's, it's from, I know 100% for sure. That's true with Ryan. And Brian pretty much says the same about you. So I just want to start off saying thank you for you're doing. I appreciate it. How old are you, 22? 22 years old. For a 22 year old man slash kid, sorry, but I know you're not a kid, but you're young. And I just want to say, you know, for a 22-year-old man to be going up against a multi-billion dollar corporation, just to do what's
Starting point is 00:04:00 right with pretty sure there's no monetary value in that, you're risking a lot. That's an example I wish a lot more people would follow, especially our fucking politicians. I mean, for this whole stuff that I've been doing, I mean, I pretty much put my whole career online. I mean, I was doing stuff totally unrelated. Like, I lost revenue streams because of this stuff. And I would do it again in a heartbeat to tell parents the truth
Starting point is 00:04:29 that what's going on. It is so crazy. I, like, I had never seen anything. in my life like this. So I really thank you for the platform to be able to speak on this. And I hope a lot of parents see this and they realize they need to take their kids off of this game. Oh, a lot of parents are going to see this. A lot are going to see this. You're a good man. But before we get into the dark shit, because you are a gamer. Yeah, I am a gamer. What are your favorite games?
Starting point is 00:05:01 Well, okay, so my favorite game is on Roblox and it was what I pretty much built. my first channel on. I got 150,000 subscribers just playing a Roblox game. It's a you ever heard of like roller coaster tycoon, those sort of games? Someone built that on Roblox and it was super cool. I mean it rivaled like games made by you know these studios and it was just one guy and that I turned that into a whole career where I was making all these videos and all these fans I mean it was great. You're not a call of duty guy? No, I'm really not.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Dude, what? I never really got that much into, like, you know, first-person shooter games. I mean, I play some, but I, not. I never got into Call of Duty, not really. Dude, I did a little, we did a little collaboration with Call of Duty here recently. Oh, really? Yeah, I used to play Call of Duty all the time overseas. I don't know if you know anything about me, but I was a seal and did some contract work for the agency.
Starting point is 00:06:04 a lot of time in like really remote shitholes. And a lot of them, the majority of the time, you're sitting around at a base in the middle of nowhere doing nothing, so we would link our Xboxes altogether. At one point, I actually lived in a fucking abandoned jail. And so our rooms were the jail cells. And we would, when you went in the hallway, all you saw was just wires going from cell to sell to sell.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Oh, my gosh. People screaming at each other. So anyways, I do this Call of Duty collaboration. I'm like, oh, man, and I had to play it. I'm like, oh, this is, I'm going to get back into this shit. So I went and I got a fucking Xbox. I did, no.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Really? Yeah, I spawn. I get killed. I didn't even realize I've respawned and they're already fucking killing me. I'm like. That's the problem I have with first person shooter games. I just, I suck at them. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I'm not good at them. I've never been good at those, like, really fast pace shooter games. So I'm just, I'm always dying. I'm always a person on my team that's like losing and carrying us down. So I just don't play. Maybe we should have a little tournament after this. Who's going to win? Sean or Slup and Call the Duty? But what, what are some of the, what are some of the other games? I mean, we're specifically here to talk about Roblox and what you're doing to protect kids from that platform. But what are some of the other games that, you know, you know, that you're aware of that people need to watch out for with their kids.
Starting point is 00:07:36 VR chat is definitely one of the worst games I have ever seen in terms of predators. The reason why Roblox is bad is due to the scale of how many just predators are, how many they're taking advantage. But for per user basis, VR chat has way more predators in terms of if you join a lobby, the chances you're going to see a predator, I mean, it's, you know, one of the first lobbies I joined on the game, there was a whole group of people confronting someone for grooming a kid. Almost every lobby is filled with nude avatars.
Starting point is 00:08:14 I was actually blown away by some. Hold on. What is VR chat? Yeah, yeah. Let me explain. So it's a game that's being hosted on Oculus in Steam, which are the two biggest, or, well, Steam is the biggest online gaming. seller, but Oculus is hosting this game as well, which is Facebook. And VR chat, pretty much
Starting point is 00:08:38 you make an account, you can be, I think, 13, that's the age on it. And when you create an account, this is something I've never seen with literally any platform. You have to go into settings to turn off inappropriate content. Like, if you're a kid, you have to go into settings and do it. Shouldn't it be the opposite? It shouldn't be on by default. You have to go turn on inappropriate content. Yes, it should be you have to turn it on, but you shouldn't even have the ability to turn it on if you're a minor and your account is set to a minor. That's another question. Yeah. Before you go on, when you say you have to be 13, because, I mean, you put your birthday in to every email and you pretty much anything these days.
Starting point is 00:09:17 You have to put your birthday in if you want an account, Instagram, Facebook, whatever, right? But there's never any, I mean, I never put my birthday on anything. I'm just pick some random shit, you know what I mean? So is that all, is that when you say you have to be 13, is it just type in your birthday here or do you actually is there some kind of? Yeah, you put your birth. Oh, you're 13. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:37 And I guess if you tell someone, oh, I'm actually 12. I'm not 13. Then they'll ban you. But, I mean, kids just learn, oh, don't see my age on this. Say you're 13. Okay. And. So it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:50 So there's nothing. There's nothing preventing anybody that's under 13 to get in there. As far as I'm aware of, yeah, there really isn't anything. Yeah. as you can do some simple math and figure out what year you have to have been born to be 13. Pretty much. Yeah. I mean, I was really blown away with VR chat because, I mean, it was instantly, you would join a lobby and you would see nude avatars. I mean, it was, and they're like the top experiences on the game just are filled with naked and nude avatars. And kids can play. It's on the app store as well, which from my knowledge totally breaks Apple's guidelines in terms of what, what is.
Starting point is 00:10:27 being allowed to be hosted. Yeah, I've never seen a game that, like, filled with child predators as VR chat. And it's very interesting because two of the Roblox guys, we ended up getting arrested, they were grooming kids on VR chat. One specifically, I'll talk about a little later. He, like a video was just released, Hey, Shlep, I caught the guy you got arrested on VR chat grooming kids. So, yeah, I mean, this, it's another tool that these predators are using to groom kids.
Starting point is 00:11:04 And I think another problem with it, too, is the way VR is set up, where, for instance, you know, if someone is looking at something bad on a computer, you can just walk in and see it. But when you're wearing VR goggles, you don't even know what's being displayed to your kid. So, yeah, I, that's a horrible game. I would say... That's a good point. I mean, not even thought of that. And that's how I've talked to parents that have had their kids victimized on it.
Starting point is 00:11:29 And they're like, I had no idea this was even possible. Like, I watched them play it, like, right in front of me. Like, the concept of your kid could possibly be getting groomed right in front of your eyes and you can't see it. That's like a really terrifying thought. What's the point of this VR? What did you call it VR chat? VR chat. What is the point of the game?
Starting point is 00:11:51 It's a social hangout game. So it's a game where you pretty much just like hang out, find friends. They have different mini games and stuff like that on there. They have like a community store and stuff like that that you can kind of kind of, it's similar to Roblox in certain aspects, but it's very different as well. But yeah, we actually almost got a guy arrested off of that game last month. He was planning on, he bought actually a bus ticket from, It was close towards where Mexico, I think it was Brownsville, Texas.
Starting point is 00:12:28 He bought a bus ticket to go to Round Rock, which would have been a 12-hour bus ticket one way, to meet what he thought was a minor. And he said, I'm going to show up, we're going to have blah, blah, blah. And it got canceled last moment because the mom figured out, oh, hey, my son is getting on a bus ticket 12 hours away, or taking a 12-hour 12-hour bus ride. So, yeah, I mean, it's so easy to find child predators on that game. And that's something I'll be targeting really soon. I'm going to be hopefully getting some people arrested on that game.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Yeah, so I had a couple of facts I wanted to read off to you. In 2024, the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children Cyber Tip Line received 20.5 million reports of suspected child's exploitation, which equals 29.2 million separate incidents. And those reports included 62.9 million files. They also report more than 546,000 online enticement reports in 2024, which is a 192% increase compared to 2023. And in just the first half of 2025, online enticement reports jumped from 292,000 to 518,000 year over year. Without many, so there's a question, without naming minors or exposing active investigations, what are the top kid-heavy games or online spaces right now where children are most exposed to predators? and what do those spaces all have in common?
Starting point is 00:14:19 Let's leave Roblox out of this one. We know Roblox is one. Give us some stuff that people don't know. Discord. If your kid is on Discord, take them off immediately. That, in my opinion, is one of the most unsafe platforms I've ever seen. I mean, I was groomed on Discord as a kid. Most girls that I know that have used Discord when they were growing up,
Starting point is 00:14:43 They were victimized on the platform. I would call that the modern day version of KICC, which was back in the earlyish 2010s. It was a very popular chat messaging app that groomed or had tons of kids that got victimized on it. That is one of the worst apps I've seen, and they've gone out of their way to protect predators. That was what blew my mind. And I'll talk a little bit about this later.
Starting point is 00:15:14 What's kick? Kick is a, that was an app, a chat messaging app. I mean, there were so many cases related to kids being groomed and victimized. It was a chat message, like, you could have group chats, and then you can move those group chats to private messaging. And it was really bad. I mean, that was a go-to for a lot of predators. I mean, I know people in my real life, just unrelated to. you know, the work I do, they were victimized on KIC.
Starting point is 00:15:44 So KIC, VR chat, Discord. Yeah, and Snapchat. That's all. And Snapchat. Snapchat initially was made to, to, it was a, from what I know, it was a, an app created to get nudes from people. It was to exchange nudes. That was the reason why it was created. And I mean, that, that app is involved in so many cases related to grooming.
Starting point is 00:16:10 I mean, there's absolutely no reason a child should be using Snapchat. I mean, it is private messaging, you know, where you can't view it as a parent. So, yeah, that's a really horrible one. I have heard so many cases related to that. And there's also some other encrypted apps like Telegram that sometimes. Oh, yeah, I was more talking about stuff that specifically made for kids, you know, like, like, I don't know. Candyland. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:41 You know? I mean, just social media sites, I mean, there's so many problems with them as a whole. But I'd say right now, gaming stuff, it would really be Roblox, VR chat, and Discord. Discord is really bad. And if your kid is on them, just take them off outright. That's how I would describe that.
Starting point is 00:17:06 You know, before we get into this interview, I just want to, I just want to, we're going to talk about this, but I want, this is more for the audience, especially for parents and kids who are concerned about this. But, you know, we've uncovered so many things on the show here. You know, it kind of all started with Ryan Montgomery, you know, and talking about the 764 cold. Now we're talking about roadblocks.
Starting point is 00:17:35 And I just dug into Cana Cook, which we were chatting about at breakfast and the thousands of kids that, you know, according to Elizabeth Phillips, have been molested there and they put them under NDA after they reach a settlement so they can never talk about them again. But, you know, and time and time again, you know, the audience and everybody who's aware of what's going on, when these things start to get traction, it becomes this, you know, tear down the institution. And they're not wrong.
Starting point is 00:18:02 I'm totally about that. Fucking, hey, tear it down. Like, if these people are going to cover for pedophiles, then it needs to be totally It needs to be torn down immediately. But I think that, you know, but that doesn't necessarily constitute a win. And so what people need to understand is, I mean, you believe in good and evil, I'm sure. Absolutely. And I believe in good and evil.
Starting point is 00:18:27 And us as human beings, we're never going to destroy evil. It's just going to flow into the next thing. And so, and that is the same with predators. A lot of these people, nobody knows, I mean, nobody knows they're a predator. They don't have, they don't have a rap sheet. They've never been arrested. There's no evidence of them having that, being a predator. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:55 You know, being attracted to kids. And so if you have to kind of put your mind into the mind of how they would think and how would they think, well, I want an occupation that I can also explore my fantasy in. You know what I mean? Undetected. And so they're going to become teachers. They're going to become counselors. They're going to start teaching swimming lessons.
Starting point is 00:19:24 They're going to be at band. They're going to teach ballet, gymnastics, jujitsu, karate, soccer. This is what they do because that's their passion is. exploiting and abusing kids. And so their whole life is, you see what I'm saying? And so, yeah, great. We took down, we took down an institution. Cool.
Starting point is 00:19:52 We didn't get everybody inside of that institution. And so those people are just going to flow into the next thing. They're gonna, they're gonna become your kid's soccer coach. And so, yes, should we be taking down the institutions? Yes, but the parents and kids and, and in guardians, what they really need to be thinking about is these people are everywhere. They're amongst us.
Starting point is 00:20:18 They could be your family members. Of course, nobody wants to think that they're, but they could be, you know what I mean? I don't know the percentage, but the majority of sexual abuse that happens is from a family member or friend or family friend. And so these are people that you trust. These are people that you've been around,
Starting point is 00:20:39 that are around you on a daily basis. And so the point I'm trying to make is you need to educate your kids. You need to have the discussions with them on what's appropriate, what's not appropriate, what needs to happen if something happens, because I don't think enough people are having these discussions. These discussions started at my house when I was changing diapers. Nobody gets to, nobody touches that, buddy. Anybody touches that?
Starting point is 00:21:04 You tell mom or dad immediately, babysitter, anybody. Anybody. Nobody. Nobody asks to see it. Nobody touches it. That's yours and yours only. You know, and you have to ingrain that into your kids' heads so that if something happens, because this is getting bigger and bigger and bigger. Absolutely. And it's been like this for a long time because I've had so many people on the show who, this show started with special operations backgrounds and life stories. And I started noticing right off the bat how many adults have been abused as a child. And it's, I'll bet it's 50% of the people that have been on here or more. Those are just the ones that have told me that. A lot of them are actually in the interview.
Starting point is 00:21:57 And so I just wanted to put that out to parents. Like, that's great. We're taking the institutions that are doing this shit down, the ones that aren't protecting kids. Like, that's great. It needs to happen. they're the ones that haven't been caught, they're just gonna go to the next place. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:22:14 And they're invisible until they have a record. Yeah, I'd go one step further. I think really parents, they need to build a connection with their kid where, because a lot of kids now in this day and age, something will happen to them. Like they'll be, they'll send a photo they shouldn't have, and a predator will try to sex toward them. And parents are, should be the person.
Starting point is 00:22:38 that this kid goes to, that they should feel comfortable. They should be able to actually be like, hey, I did this, I know I screwed up, but they shouldn't view it as like, my life is over, you know? It shouldn't be a punishment thing, in a sense. They should be able to go to you, because what a lot happens a lot, and I've seen this so much, kids are afraid to tell their parents anything, because they think they're going to get punished.
Starting point is 00:23:05 They think all their devices are going to get taken. And I mean, you know, and I do think it's some aspects that that is kind of warranted, but it will make your kid not want to say anything. And what ends up happening with like, shit is a lot of kids, they just, they take their own lives. And it's so tragic. I really, the conversation that needs to be had is like if someone says something or does something of you online, you should tell me and we will go get this guy together, you know, we will. go to the police station, we'll make sure this guy can't hurt anyone else.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Shouldn't be, if someone messages you bad, you're never chatting on the internet again. Yeah, that's, that's, that's, I love what you're saying there. And I actually do this with my kids, who are toddlers, you know, but it, but you have to build the trust with your kids, you know, and so what do I, what I mean by that is, for example, a couple weeks ago, my four-year-old. broke, I don't know, something that had sentimental value. It was like a vase or something. It had sentimental value to the family.
Starting point is 00:24:16 And he, I saw him do it, and I was hoping, you know, I wanted to see how he reacted, if he hid it from me or if he took ownership and immediately comes over, freaked out, thinks he's in deep shit, you know, and he's like, I'm sorry, I broke. And instead of being all pissed off because he broke something. stupid vase that meant something to the family. I'm like, hey, a good job. I rewarded him, you know, and told him what a good job he did by by taking ownership of his mistake. And so the next time he does something like that, he's hopefully, you know, going to, going to rely on past experience and go, I need to tell my dad that I fucked up. And he's going to help me fix it.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Yeah. You know, and that's the relationship that I, I think that people need to be building with their kids, not reprimanding them and punishing them every single time. I mean, yes, punishment is you get what I think you get what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, for sure, absolutely. I think another thing, too, is education is definitely so warranted with kids. I mean, they need to know that there's bad people out there that are trying to take advantage of them. And, I mean, the grooming that these predators do is so calculated. I mean, they have actual textbooks of hundreds of pages, how they groom kids.
Starting point is 00:25:43 It is so systematic and they need to understand that there are people out there that want to hurt them, that literally want to, for them to kill themselves on a web camp. Like that's, I can't even comprehend saying that myself because it's like, when I was a kid growing up on the internet, there was some stuff, but it was never like what, 7, 64, or any of the, these, you know, calm communities are now. And it's really scary. And that conversation could literally save your child's life. I mean, that's, that's how I view it, at least. I've walked out of doctor's appointments before thinking, what did I actually learn? You're fine. Drink more water. No real data. No real plan. That's why I'm fired up about superpower.
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Starting point is 00:28:12 A Roblox grooming survivor yourself, you're targeted and exploited as a young teen by a prominent Roblox developer. Founder of a channel that has led to multiple arrests of alleged predators who used Roblox to groom minors permanently banned from Roblox in August of 2025 along with a cease and desist letter, threatening legal action.
Starting point is 00:28:36 You continue, predator-catching work, off platform collaborating with law enforcement to secure convictions. Yep. You're a hell of a guy. And, you know, I want to say that I've offered the seat, I told you on the way here, Roblox Communications has been in touch with us when I can't, I left to comment on your ex. Somehow they found out you were coming and got in touch with us.
Starting point is 00:29:06 And so we've been in communication with them. Not me personally. I didn't want any comms with them until after our interview. But I did offer the CEO of Roblox a spot on the show to tell everybody what they're doing to improve child safety on their platform. One thing that scares me about doing that is, I was just talking to Jeremy about this upstairs, is I'm scared to bring them on because I don't want people to not watch that episode and then think, oh, Sean had the CEO
Starting point is 00:29:48 Roblox on it, must be safe. Because heaven forbid, if a fucking parent doesn't watch that episode and just sees that I had him on and they think everything's okay. And then their kid goes on there and gets exploited or worse. by that 764 group, that's on me.
Starting point is 00:30:11 And that's not something that I want to live with. But anyways, let's start with your backstory. Where'd you grow up? I grew up in Southern California. I have two loving parents. I had a sister. She's awesome. And I was raised in a pretty middle-class life.
Starting point is 00:30:36 both my parents worked and really I was a kid I liked gaming I played Minecraft a lot but Roblox was just something that instantly like grabbed my attention
Starting point is 00:30:54 I was at a friend's house How old were you when you started gaming? Oh I don't even know I mean I was gaming very very young I mean my dad had a PlayStation and I would literally just hop on racing games and stuff like that. So gaming has always kind of been something that I had been involved with ever since I was very, very little.
Starting point is 00:31:14 I don't even know how old I was. So as far as you can remember, you've been... As far as I can remember, I've been playing video games. And, yeah, I went over to a friend's house, and his cousin was over and he was playing this game. And me and my friend were just instantly like, whoa. Because we love Legos. We would build Lego stuff and this was Lego the video game, the most ultimate one where you could do anything, be anything.
Starting point is 00:31:44 And we were just hooked. I mean, we played all these games. We would come home from school every day and we would play like these awesome war games on Roblox. We would build stuff. I mean, it was really a lot of fun. And I had a lot of good childhood memories on the game. but then in 2015 I caught
Starting point is 00:32:08 I think it was Mercer was what I caught yeah I caught that you see right here this is a I have a scar from my surgery I some serious shit yeah I was in the hospital for over a month because of it I had a reaction to the medication they gave me
Starting point is 00:32:27 I had I think two surgeries it was it was pretty scary I was placed in the ice for a while and I was put on all these insane medications and you know I had a lot of time where I couldn't go to school so that that was where I really started getting into Roblox a lot and you know before that I was kind of learning scripting a little bit which is like you know that is Lua which was the programming language of Roblox and just like you know building games so I can play with my
Starting point is 00:33:02 friends but I have a lot of free time. How long has Roblox been around? 2006. So it's... It's been around since 06? Yeah, but it was a totally different platform between then and now. I mean, it doesn't even look recognizable.
Starting point is 00:33:18 But yeah, we... I got involved really into Roblox because I got sick and I went to these conferences Roblox did around the United States. It was a, it wasn't conference. It was a, they set a boost at STEM events to show that Roblox was like an educational platform. And I helped them do that. I mean, some of the promotional footage that was used for that. But yeah, I was really into Roblox as a kid. And I had a lot of time because I was in the hospital.
Starting point is 00:33:57 And when I got out of the hospital, I couldn't go back to normal. school because I was feeling so ill from all the medication I was on. So I had a lot of time online. And that was where I met a game developer who at the time, he made my favorite game online. It was like a little mini-game sort of thing. It was really cool. And we started communicating and I had talked to this guy for multiple years. How did you meet this guy? It was on a Discord server owned by Roblox employees. How old were you at the time? I want to say I was 12.
Starting point is 00:34:41 How old was this guy? He was, I believe, 19 turning 20. So he was a lot older than me. Yeah, I met him on a Discord server that was owned by employees at Roblox. It was called the Roblox Discord. So, I mean, you know, it wasn't, I guess, official. in the capacity of, you know, Roblox was advertising on all their social medias, but it was owned and operated by employees at the company. And I met my abuser on there. And it started out
Starting point is 00:35:19 innocent where he let me, like, moderate for his community, which is a common thing you'll see with these predators, specifically Roblox. They'll give them people like kids' roles and stuff so that they feel like, whoa, like, oh my gosh, this is a cool. As a kid getting to moderate the coolest game you love on the site, it blew my world. Like, I was like, oh, my gosh. And I started noticing he would have these inappropriate conversations with me. And I...
Starting point is 00:35:52 Like what? He would talk about, like, masturbation and stuff like that. Like, it was, like, a 12-year-old kid. How, like, how does he bring that? up to a 12-year-old? I remember one instance, he was in a call with another girl, and I believe this girl was either 15 or 16 at the time. I'm like, what are you guys doing?
Starting point is 00:36:12 And he's like, oh, we're like masturbating and calls together, and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, ew, that's gross. And then he was trying to explain to me how that was a good thing. How would he say it's a good thing? Normal thing. Maybe that's the right way to put it. That's how he was trying to, he was trying to normalize that sort
Starting point is 00:36:29 of like weird, gross degenerate behavior. gross degenerate behavior to me. But it progressively got worse. I noticed he started having this obsession, or he probably always did, but he started showing it more and more with mass shooters. I want you to be just a little bit more descriptive, if you can, and here's why.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Because a lot of parents are watching this, and a lot of parents are then going to watch this with their kids. Yeah. And a lot of kids are going to watch this. And so, When you talk about the progression of how it happened. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:05 If they hear how it happened, then they'll be able to recognize when it's happening to them. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, like, the conversations, they started out normal. They, and it went on normal for a while, but as time progressed, he began getting more and more, like, just open with how he would communicate with me. Like, he would talk more graphic, like, you would talk about, like, and like stuff like that with me and I I didn't recognize the behavioral difference in that because I mean I was a kid nobody had ever talked to me like that how did that make you feel very uncomfortable very very uncomfortable I I remember saying that in
Starting point is 00:37:51 messages and he the first relationship he was in I I couldn't recognize like what a predator was I never even knew what a predator was at this time. The most I had seen was like Chris Hansen to catch a predator, but I thought it was a prank show. You know, I didn't think it was actual like, like, I couldn't understand it. And I remember there was one conversation he had with me
Starting point is 00:38:15 because he was in a relationship, he clearly shouldn't have been with this girl where he said, hey, is this relationship between a 15 year old and a 19 year old? I believe that's what he said. Is that okay? And I was like, oh yeah, my parents say, they got a, you know, my parents,
Starting point is 00:38:31 have a larger age gap than that. You know, my parents, they met when my mom was 30, you know. So I couldn't recognize that stuff, but that stuff, if, like, I had known a little more, like, maybe I could have, like... They manipulate you. Yeah, I mean, that's what it was. Like, it was, I don't think I have, like, even now, met someone so manipulative.
Starting point is 00:38:57 I mean, it was, it was insane. like the people that like I know that were also victimized by this guy also say the exact same stuff. I mean, he was such a manipulator. He would try to get anybody to do whatever he felt necessary. But yeah, I mean, as it continued with these conversations, he would show me like gore, which was like, you know, I was a child. I was that that was like probably some of the most traumatic like things for a kid to see I mean here I let me let me actually show you I have some stuff on my laptop some of the messages let me pull this up real quick okay so you can see this here this is I believe I was either 14 or 15 here this is the Christchurch shooting and he he sent me this is a girl dead in the street he made me watch this shooting in full on Discord. And he actually, I remember specifically, he made me have to screen share that I was watching
Starting point is 00:40:14 because I was like, I'm not gonna watch this. I'm not, he's like, turn on your screen share or I'm banning you from all your stuff. And he also had my information, which I had accidentally leaked. And he was like- How did he pull that out of you? So I think what happened here, I think I have an image of it. Yeah. Oh, okay, here it is. So I had, he was like, I don't believe you're actually the age you are. And I mean, I'm just such a stupid kid. And looking back, like, why did I do this? But, um, you're 12. That's why he did it. That's why I did this. But, um, yeah, I mean, here, here was him. How old was I? This is 2016. So this is him threatening to put my ID on his banner on his Roblox account or Twitter account.
Starting point is 00:41:03 And he's threatening to do it. Don't do it. Is that a challenge? I mean, that was the message as he was writing to me as a kid. And he would constantly threaten to publish my information, to contact my family members. You know, it was really, really traumatic, and I didn't know how to get away.
Starting point is 00:41:25 As time continued, he started grooming more and more kids. I have one more thing, too. this one is pretty bad. This was a girl he groomed. Here you go. So he had made this girl, like she was self-harmed. She self-harmed because of the grooming and abuse this guy
Starting point is 00:41:48 was putting her through. She had stuck a pin through one hand, her side, out the other. And I remember, and I didn't understand it because it's hard for me to convey Because, like, looking back, it's like, this was so obvious, but it was not obvious to me. That girl in specifics, he instructed this girl to lie about her age to everyone online.
Starting point is 00:42:16 And it's so disgusting. I mean, she actually dropped out of high school early because of the abuse that she was suffered because of this guy. She had to go back and redo stuff. She had to deal with a lot of harassment and just, I mean, it was horrific to see. How did it get to that point? Send images of herself? Pretty much what had happened was someone had joined his community on row, or like he joined his Discord server. He got, that was linked directly on Roblox.
Starting point is 00:42:54 and she had um she was a vulnerable girl that he saw that he could take advantage of and he manipulated this mentally ill girl into doing a lot of horrible stuff um and she was on she she started taking medication because of her depression and then she she was manipulated to keep taking it um and i mean it was it was so disturbing i mean it was so so so gross and she she had tried to get away from this guy and and she was like I can't be with you because of the age gap and he was begging this girl to continue to be in a relationship um with her and I didn't know a lot of this was going on because he had instructed everybody you talk to that that you are an adult you you are um you know you you know you you
Starting point is 00:43:54 you aren't the age you actually are. So when I found out that she was actually the same, or I think she was a year older than me, I was, like, this had happened twice with two different girls he'd groomed. And it actually screwed with my perception of age, because it was people I had viewed as adults were actually, like friends, they were the same age as me.
Starting point is 00:44:18 And it was like, it really screwed with my perception of age, like these people that I thought I was having conversations with that were adults, they were kids the same age as me. Yeah, it was, it was really horrible. It was, I mean, it's something I still, like, have, like, kind of a hard time talking about in full capacity, but it led to me. Are you willing to go a little bit deeper? I mean, that's pretty much the gist of a lot of it.
Starting point is 00:44:50 I mean, he would send me a lot of people, and, and, um, I mean, um, I, um, I, that's pretty much the gist of a lot of it. And he would show me a lot of gore, and he was just obsessed with mass shooters. But, I mean, that was pretty much the gist of it. What ended up happening, though, me and a friend had figured out a lot of what this dude had done. He would make kids strip on Discord calls. Multiple, he would make kids piss themselves on Discord calls.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Did you ever have to do anything like that? No, I never sent him any nudes or anything like that. But he... Did he ask? He would have very inappropriate conversations with me. He would ask me about like, just really weird questions, like, about body hair and masturbation and, like, oh, what type of you watch, like, that sort of stuff? And it was definitely something... Definitely something that just I didn't.
Starting point is 00:45:53 He's planting seeds in your head that you don't even know exist yet as a kid. Yeah. To spark the curiosity so that you go and find that, hoping that it would lose your mind and then you come to him and then he's in. I think so. And I think one thing too was he would use material
Starting point is 00:46:15 curated for kids. Like there was this one show, French TV show and was kind of like an adult comedy, but it would, it actually like teach like about like fetishes and stuff like that. I forgot the name of it, but I mean, he, he intentionally showed that to me and some other kids to teach us about stuff. I mean, that was, it, there's actually a concept, which I'll talk about a little later when it comes to these Roblox Predators, but it's called E.P.
Starting point is 00:46:48 It's called Early Introduction, and it's what a lot of these predators do is they get off on the idea of turning children into porn addicts. Like they, there's stuff I'll show later, like, they have whole, like, diagrams and, like, stuff that they use to try to get kids into a pipeline so that, and they get off on the idea of turning children into porn addicts so that they become like them. And a lot of stuff he was doing really aligned with a lot of that sort of stuff that related to that. But pretty much all this abuse culminated in a suicide attempt. And this was after me and a friend had figured out about all of this stuff. Your suicide attempt? Yeah. I had a suicide attempt because...
Starting point is 00:47:39 How old were you? 15. I was 15 years old. Yes. Yeah. I was 15 years old. and it's man um yeah i i had pretty much what what had happened is i i figured out with a friend what was going on and we we just destroyed his whole discord server and then he was threatening
Starting point is 00:48:06 and all that and i just i couldn't take it i made an attempt and how did you how were you going to do it I had pills that I was going to take. I had a lot of pills and called it my mom. I'm like, I need to go to the hospital right now. She took me to a mental health hospital. While I was in the hospital, my mom was piecing together everything that had happened back at home. Shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:38 It's 15. Yeah, I mean, let me clarify one thing, too. This person that had did this to me, he was a developer on Roblox that was featured in brand material all across the platform. He was featured in television ads that would play on Cartoon Network. His little toy, they were selling all across the United States. And this was the same guy that was not only blackmailing me, that was grooming me and exposing me to most heinous material. I mean, the Christchurch shooting was, I had a nightmare. I couldn't sleep. I literally could not sleep at night.
Starting point is 00:49:18 And, yeah, I mean, I made an attempt. And while I was in the hospital, my mom pieced together what was going on. She made an email to Roblox. And Roblox pretty much brushed her off. They had, for one, I think they just, like, responded back with the suicide hotline. And then she said she wrote something else. And I guess she might, I think she said she got in a call with someone at Roblox, and they're just like, we can't do anything, you know. It's not, we can't do anything.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Did they know it's their developer? As far as I know, yes. I mean, that, that's, I mean, I have. So they know that one of their developers is the one that is exploiting kids. and they respond and then you have a 15-year-old kid who tries to kill himself because of this fucking developer
Starting point is 00:50:17 and their response is a suicide hotline and there's nothing we can do. When I told Roblox about all this and why I do the work I did, that's what they emailed me back with. Like I told them while I was getting these people arrested, I'm doing this because I was victimized and they responded with the suicide hotline number.
Starting point is 00:50:38 So, yeah. I mean, that's... Holy shit. Pretty much how he had... What ended up happening to him, a victim of his went to Roblox, and they were a high-profile person on the platform at that time and said that, hey, this person was not only leaking NBA material between the company and this guy, which it was like, I believe it was event-related stuff, which, I mean, that.
Starting point is 00:51:08 I mean, that's the highest NDA stuff, at least from my understanding as a developer you could have. But it was, this guy was abusing me and doing all this other horrible, horrible stuff. They had just terminated them off the platform. And a lot of people were confused online because this was a huge developer who just vanished. And there was no, say, from Roblox on any of it. I had talked to people who had, were still in communication with this developer just to keep tabs on him, see what he was doing. And pretty much Roblox got this guy into a call and said, hey, why did you do this? And he was like, I'm going to get my attorneys involved.
Starting point is 00:51:53 And he, um, uh, roblocks into the call and then just terminated all of his accounts. That's what I was told by a third party. So I, I don't know how accurate that is. but he was eventually banned, which in the time frame it took for him to get banned. And from my situation, I had been fighting tooth and nail to get this guy removed off the platform. I was reaching out to massive content creators like Ruben Sim, who I'll be talking about a little later, to see if there's anything that could be done. And I mean, I tried everything and I couldn't do anything and just it eventually came out what this guy
Starting point is 00:52:35 done and um yeah it was it was brutal and um i mean that this is these are the type of people that roblocks is protected in the you know in the grand scheme of things is that the first time that your parents found out about it was your suicide attempt yes and and even after that i was kind of like i was telling them bits and pieces but i wasn't telling them the entire thing until I got a little bit older. What kind of bits and pieces? I told him that this guy was like sending me, but I wasn't telling him that this guy was exposing me
Starting point is 00:53:14 to traumatic mass suicide or mass shooting gore and just like how I was having still anxiety and just really depressed. I bottled a lot of it up for a while and I wish I went to my parents sooner about all of it. And I think that's, What do you think the point of the mass shootings in Gore was? I think that these people genuinely are evil and they believe in chaos.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Do you think it's a satanic cult? I don't know about him in particular, but I just know that these people are genuinely evil and they sympathize with evil and they believe in evil. And that's why he was attracted to evil, be it kids, be it mass shootings, I mean, it was really, really, like, one of the most sick individuals. He was the most sick individual I'd ever met in my life. And he was in brands. He was in toys that were being sold all across America.
Starting point is 00:54:22 This just, I just want to circle back to what we just talked about at the very beginning of this show. Yeah. These people are everywhere. Yep. And they find the occupations where they get access to kids. Yep. Here's probably some kind of a world-renowned developer, engineer that's working on what wound up being probably the most successful kids game in the history of the world. And that's where he's at.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Why? Because he wants to target kids. And so he put himself in a position where it makes it easy as hell to target kids. Yeah. And it worked. I mean, he really threw out a lot of stuff to. to groom kids. I mean, before he got banned, he made one of the most technologically advanced games that the website had ever seen, and it blew people's minds. Like, he had spent so long
Starting point is 00:55:19 working on it. And the reason why he made that was because out of a fit of rage and depression, he, after grooming a kid and in the fear of being caught because a developer had kind of known about this, he had made this incredible game. and he had a lot to lose and kept doing it and I mean it now when you say developer also yeah is this a developer that is being paid by Roblox he's within the organization so I probably should preface this so Roblox has actual staff at their company and then they also have developers on the site who I guess kind of our contractors I mean they make games they they have to sign a contract to
Starting point is 00:56:06 to be able to exchange the Roblox currency into real-life money. So, yeah, I mean, he was, but him in particular. So he is on the payroll? He was a contractor for Roblox. He was getting paychecks from the company. Specifically, yeah, because he had toys of his character that were being sold and merchandised by Roblox that were in ads placed on television. You know, these are-
Starting point is 00:56:30 He was a face of Roblox. He was a face of Roblox, yes. And it's really sad, too. A lot of people don't know why he was banned. What's his name? Did I name him? No. No? Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Yeah, okay. Yeah. This fucking guy is threatening litigation? Yeah. This fucking guy is threatening litigation. He had a lawsuit against me in Ireland over it. And maybe that's the answer to the question of what's his name is I don't want to name him here because he's already threatening litigation. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Hold on. How the fuck? What litigation? He threatened a law, no, he created a lawsuit against me in Ireland. Like, yeah, the whole lawsuit. For what? He says he was blackmailed by one of these victims, which the victim- Blackmailed?
Starting point is 00:57:30 The victim- By his victim? What the fuck does that even mean? If you read the lawsuit, it literally confirms he's a pedophile. pedophile. I mean, that's the crazy part about it. But yeah, I mean, yeah, that's how crazy this stuff is, man. That's, that's really all I have to say about it. But yeah, I was viciously groomed by this predator. And, I mean, he still goes after and tries to harass me. Has there been any repercussion? Is this guy just roaming around free? Yeah, and he was actually making new Roblox accounts
Starting point is 00:58:05 as of 2023, and Roblox didn't care. Roblox didn't care. I was the one who had to blow the whistle on it. I have to keep track of their pedophiles. That's how crazy this is. So nothing's happened to this guy? Nope. Nothing has happened.
Starting point is 00:58:29 A lot of victims who really deserve justice, ones who dropped out of school. Has anybody mentioned this guy's name? Everyone's afraid they're going to get. get sued by this guy because Roblox gave him hundreds of thousands of dollars. If you give me the name, can I put it out? Sure. I mean, could he put it out?
Starting point is 00:58:52 Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I'll give you his full name. Perfect. Yeah, I, yeah. I mean, and, you know, all the claims I have against him, I have everything documented. His accounts are still on Discord. I have him sending me when I was a minor.
Starting point is 00:59:08 I have him talking about how, you know, asking a, I believe it was either 11 or 12-year-old, hey, should I be in a relationship that I clearly shouldn't be in? I have him sending me, you know, just the most horrific stuff. So, I mean, if he ever wants to try something at me, discovery will be very interesting. I will say that. I can't believe this fucking guy is still out there. Yep. And just to think, Roblox, rather than sending him this season,
Starting point is 00:59:38 and desist who's still re-accessing the platform. They sent me the cease and desist. You've got to be fucking kidding me. Yeah. And my abuser was harassing me with money that he had gained from Robloch. Yeah. Let's take a break. Everyone's talking about skills-based hiring right now, focusing on what somebody can actually
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Starting point is 01:01:55 But this show will focus on what is need to know, not just what is nice to know. All right, slip, we're back from the break. Man, I, so your attorney's not going to be in here for this one. he's outside because my attorney's calling him because I want my attorney to have full visibility onto who this fucking guy is and the whole story because if I get the cleared hot, which I probably will, he's going to be way more famous than Roblox ever fucking made him. Where is he? Ireland. Ireland.
Starting point is 01:02:37 I would imagine most Irish people don't like pedophiles. This guy's... Your dad's out there. He's getting emotional because he's saying... that he had, he has never even heard you mention this fucker's name. Yeah. We got you, dude. I hate these fucking people and I will stop at nothing to fucking get them.
Starting point is 01:03:00 I fucking hate him. It's definitely something that... He's still doing this shit. He was back on Roblox in, in 2023. I can't even comprehend the idea. He was making games again on the platform. And they're aware of this shit? I don't know if they're aware of this, but I will say they allowed him to come back and make games.
Starting point is 01:03:28 And I had to stick my own neck out there to make sure that this guy was gone for good. I mean, that's the thing about it. That's why I'm so passionate about the stuff I do because, I mean, it is something that really, hurt me and I will talk about it later but I mean being able to get people arrested was my form of therapy it was my form of like I would get someone arrested and then I get an email from a kid and they'd be like you got my groomer arrested there's there's no other form of satisfaction greater than that that was more healing to the abuse that I went through because I know I'd give anything for someone to do that for me.
Starting point is 01:04:22 I could not... Sorry. Come here, my friend. Come here. Appreciate it. I would give anything for that to happen to me. I know those victims that went through that horrible stuff alongside me would give anything for that to happen. And really what I was trying to figure out, and this whole,
Starting point is 01:04:52 Robloid stuff was why they didn't care. They didn't care about me. They didn't care about any of the victims who suffered horrible, horrible abuse and the current victims that are, have been subjected to so, so much worse, so much worse, like kidnappings. I'm gonna read you some of these stories.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Honestly, would you like to see some of them? Yeah, let's see it. Let's take a look at some of these. Because these are just some of the most disgusting things you will ever hear. Let me see. So there's this kid. His name was Ethan Dallas. You can see right here.
Starting point is 01:05:39 He, um, on Roblox, he, here, let me show this photo. This here is Ethan Dallas. he while playing Roblox met this piece of shit pedophile right here he had thwarted this kid
Starting point is 01:06:00 viciously I mean he had to live with this for from my understanding a long time like he had to suffer this abuse and he had finally come out to his parents about it
Starting point is 01:06:15 and due to all the abuse and this guy he ended up taking his own life. His parents are the first wrongful death lawsuit that has been filed against Roblox. They have a wonderful foundation. The first? The first, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:32 How many are there? I don't know as of this moment, but I'd assume there's a lot that's going to be coming. I know there's a lot of kids who have taken their own lives because of Roblox. What would your estimation be? Tens? Hundreds.
Starting point is 01:06:47 I'll tell you this. within this year, so it's, what day is it? It is February the 5th. Six kids have been missing or found because of Roblox that's being reported. I can actually go through these with you. So this year is Thomas Medlin. They're currently still searching for him, innocent kid.
Starting point is 01:07:20 I spoke with his dad. And he seemed like a wonderful, wonderful kid. He was very smart. He went missing on, I believe, January 6th. He has been missing ever since. He took a train to New York City. His phone last pinged on the Brooklyn Bridge. He told his friends from school that he was going to meet someone off of Roblox.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Holy shit. This is one. How old is that kid? I believe he was 15, I almost said. This here was a boy with intellectual disability who was lured off of roadblocks to San Diego, lived in Philadelphia. I don't know if he got to Philadelphia, but there was a, they were trying to look for him. He was found, thankfully.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Where was he found? I'm not exactly sure the exact location, but he was found. What condition? I'm not exactly sure. I don't know if they've released the condition or how, but they found this kid. And he was lured off of Roblox. These are two sisters in Mexico
Starting point is 01:08:42 who were lured off of Roblox. They were luckily found, very gratefully, and they seemed to be in good condition, but they were lured off the platform by Predator. And just this week, this week, This piece of shit pedophile tried to lure, or no, he drove, get this, 23 hours to pick up these two kids, right? Or I don't know if I have a photo of it. To pick up two kids.
Starting point is 01:09:21 And he abducted them from their home. Georgia State Patrol found him driving in the car that they put out, I guess, Amber Alert about, found the two girls from Roblox. Holy shit. These are only 2026 so far. If we just go off of how January went, that's going to be, I think I did, it would be 46 kids by the end of the year. And these are only the what is being reported to be Robloid. And only in the US.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Only in the US. Well, there was one of Mexico. Yeah. But. And that doesn't count all the kids that are exploited, the sevens of four shit. Nope. And it's going to snowball. She's going to get bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger.
Starting point is 01:10:12 Bigger and bigger and bigger. And here. How many years were you enduring that kind of abuse? Three years. Three fucking years. Three years of abuse. And it just got progressively worse and worse and worse with time. It started at 12?
Starting point is 01:10:28 Yeah. And he was still trying to contact me even after my suicide attempt. I mean, he was contacting me through Roblox, like the developer form thing. And he was doing everything. And I had to send messages to him, like, I want nothing to do with you anymore. Like, that was what I was saying. And he was still contacting me. Shit.
Starting point is 01:10:55 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, let me read you one of these cases because I think really these, nobody reads the actual. Like you hear lawsuit filed, but nobody reads what these lawsuits have. And if I had known one of these lawsuits or anything, you would take your kids off of this game instantaneously. Okay. Plaintiff is a young girl who was exploited by a known predator through defendants platform, Roblox and Discord.
Starting point is 01:11:28 So they're both being sued, Roblox and Discord. Defendant's unsafe and defectively designed products enabled the predator to access and groom and victimized Plaintiff. Plaintiff was a 10-year-old girl when she first started playing Roblox. At relevant times, Planktif's grandmother had sole custody of Planktive. Plankt's grandmother, next friend, believed that Roblox was safe for kids. So all the people involved, they thought Roblox was a safe game. It's advertised as safe. I mean, the marketing is for parents. This game is safe. There's nothing bad on here. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:12:05 While playing Roblox with her cousins in or about May of 2022, an adult predator initiated contact with plaintiff, a then 11-year-old through Roblox's chat function. The predator falsely claimed to be a 13-year-old boy, a misrepresentation facilitated by Roblox's lack of age identity and verification and exploited her age and vulnerability to build a false emotional connection with them. The predator was in fact a 26-year-old man who was listed on the public side. Offender registry following a conviction for online solicitation of a minor At time he initiated contact through throughout the relevant period the predator was on probation Holy shit the predator used Roblox's communication features to groom Planktiff and promptly directed her to Discord where he instructed Planktiff on how to conceal the communications from her family Discord defaultly is easily accessible private messaging app that allows predators to escalate grooming. Shortly after looming the Planktiff to Discord, the predator intensified the grooming and began sending Planktiff nude photographs.
Starting point is 01:13:18 The Predator then coerced Plaintiff to send explicit images of herself. Discord's reporting system failed to detect, block, or remove any of the Predator's accounts in a timely manner. On or about 2022, Planktiff was at home. under supervision of her great-grandparents. The predator coached the Planktiff how to sneak out. Planktiff then left her grandparents' house and met Predator in person. He abducted her, bound her hands with a leather belt,
Starting point is 01:13:47 and ripped her multiple times, including vaginal intercourse. He then returned home and instructed her to lie about the assault. Thereafter, the predator continued to communicate with Planktif. on or about following 2022, discord communication with Predator, Predator waited outside of aunt's home. Plaintiff scaled the fence to meet him, and then he abducted her again.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Planktiff did not have her phone, leaving her family no way to relocate her. Planktiff's family then grew concerned about her disappearance and contacted law enforcement. Planktif's family turned over her devices to the FBI, and I guess they ended up finding out who this was. I believe in this.
Starting point is 01:14:45 She got pregnant off of the predator. Oh my gosh. Let me double check. Yeah, okay, here. Assault examination confirmed the assaults with DNA matching predator. It was revealed that the predator had impregnated plaintiff during one of the assaults. Planktives' grandmother was informed by health professionals that as an 11-year-old girl weighing less than 90 pounds the pregnancy put the plaintiff's life in jeopardy Fearing the plaintiffs
Starting point is 01:15:24 Her grandmother drove her to New Mexico where the plaintiff underwent an abortion This is Roblox This is the kids game She met someone off of the game Got brutally wronged multiple times and had to have to be it to have an abortion because of the child predator she met off this. An 11-year-old girl. An 11-year-old.
Starting point is 01:15:55 I have one more I'd like to read for you because this one is horrible. Planktiff is a 15-year-old girl who was an avid Roblox user. She was horrifically and traumatically manipulated, groomed, and sexually abused by a violent depraved predator who posed as a fellow minor through defendant's dangerous app, which enabled and facilitated this predator's heinous crimes as a result of defendant's reckless disregard for child safety. Planktiff was approximately 10 years old
Starting point is 01:16:44 when she began playing Roblox. Plaintiff's mother trusted that Roblox was a safe place because they advertise this. They tell parents it's educational. Can you show me, let's finish this. Yeah. Then I want to see how they advertise. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:16:58 Please. One of the quotes from the CEO is Roblox is the safest platform. for anyone on the internet. Are you serious? Of any age. Yes. That is a quote from David Bazuki, CEO he gave on. That is what they're telling parents.
Starting point is 01:17:14 Safest platform on the internet for anyone of any age. Based on the misleading and dangerous inadequate from Planktis mother, wait, here actually, let me see. Okay. Around July 2020, the Planktiff was a vulnerable 10-year-old when she was targeted on roadblocks by a predator who deliberately posed as a fellow minor to exploit Plaintiff's age and vulnerability. The Predator methodically cultivated a false emotional connection with Planktiff by promising friendship and connection. When the Predator learned a Pranktif's true age rather than any contact, he explicitly
Starting point is 01:17:55 told Planktif that he didn't care that she was 10 years old. The predator continued to foster an emotional and manipulative relationship with Planktif through defendant's chat messaging feature, which Roblox designed to allow unrestricted private communications between users regardless of age. Why would you make a encrypted private messenger on a fucking game that is meant for kids? I have no idea.
Starting point is 01:18:23 Why the fuck would you do that? You know what's shocking? All you have to do to wipe all the communication you have with someone is unfriend them. So that's what a lot of predators do. They have all these messages on. on Roblox built with their victims, they get caught or whatever, they hit unfriend, you can't access it anymore. The only way you could, at least as far as I know, is a subpoena.
Starting point is 01:18:43 So, I mean, that's, that's insane. I mean, that's something that I've heard from detectives that they think Roblox should fix. They've told this to Roblox. Hey, Roblox communication team that's been in touch with us. Yeah, why do you fucking go? Why do you chat messages disappear? You want to fix your platform? That will be a good fucking step.
Starting point is 01:19:02 Yep. real good fucking step. Why the fuck do you have private messaging capabilities on a fucking game that is meant for kids? Why the fuck would you do that? I... The predator eventually coerced Plaintiff into sending nudes. A few months later after successfully conditioning Plaintiff through months of grooming and manipulation, the Predator convinced Planktiff to meet him in person. In October of 2020, when Plaintiff was only 10 years old, The predator coerced Planktiff to meet in person.
Starting point is 01:19:35 Planktiff believing that she was meeting someone she could trust. Snuck out of her home in the middle of the night. The predator transported Planktiff to a local motel where she was strapped and violently by five men, including the predator. Two of these people were never caught. Two of them. This is one of the lawsuits, only one of the lawsuits that are filed against Roblox. A 10-year-old was by five men that they met off of that app. Two were never caught.
Starting point is 01:20:10 They describe it as carefully orchestrated this whole abduction. This is what predators are doing on this app. I'm going to read to you some of the quotes that these executives at Roblox, they've been telling parents. So this here is Tammy Bomick. She's a Roblox VP of Civil. and partnerships, and also just something interesting to note about her. She serves on the board
Starting point is 01:20:41 of multiple child safety boards while working for Roblox. That's a huge conflict of interest. You're working for the company under legal scrutiny. Why are you... These are supposed to be organizations dedicated to regulating Roblox. Can you say that one more time?
Starting point is 01:20:57 Let me see here. Tammy Bommick. And she actually mentioned in a lot of these lawsuits for this exact reason. So read that quote she said here. This is Tammy. BOMick, Roblox, VP of Civility and Partnerships. Yep.
Starting point is 01:21:15 A lot of the negative, in quotes, a lot of the negative press has come from things that have happened five years ago. So does that mean it's not relevant? That 10-year-old was five years ago. And who? Tammy Bomick said that. And she works for civility and safety at Roblox or civility and partnerships. I mean, there's so many things.
Starting point is 01:21:42 I mean, for one, just that's a whole thing to get into. For one, that's not even true. A lot of the situations making headlines, they have happened within the last five. You just brought up six this year. That happened this month, this, in the last. Literally this month. It's only, what, February?
Starting point is 01:21:59 Yeah, all those situations has just happened within the last month. So that's what Roblox, that's how they're trying to downplay this to parents. That's how they're trying to manipulate parents and disdain on the platform. CEO of Roblox. Roblox CEO says, Predators are an opportunity to improve moderation. And now let me preface this.
Starting point is 01:22:23 He meant this in the capacity of, you know, try to improve safety. But how can you view a situation where a 10-year-old gets violently by five men as an opportunity? I mean, that is a total failure your platform failed at its job. And they view this as an opportunity.
Starting point is 01:22:45 And they actually went as far as to double down on that. Matt Kaufman was pretty much saying, you're pretty much saying, one thing I find interesting about Roblox and that people don't always think about Roblox is that there are no billboards. When you drive up and down the highway, we don't have a Super Bowl commercial.
Starting point is 01:23:08 Our growth is driven by word of mouth. It's driven by trust of parents and families when you talk about growth. When you look at safety, safety is a real driver for growth for the company. So they're not even looking at this from a perspective of these are children that are being brutally and molested. They're viewing it as a way we need to grow our company more. That's how disconnected this all feels. They have never put out a statement about any of these victims. that has had any genuineness.
Starting point is 01:23:43 Like, we really care about what's going on. We really, really are, you know, are heartbroken about, you know, all these lawsuits that are being filed against her company. From what my attorneys have told me, Roblox has never even asked about how any of these victims are doing. I, is that, that's the craziest thing. Roblox CEO says, keep your kids off of Roblox if you're worried.
Starting point is 01:24:15 That's how he views it. Keep your kids off of this game if you're worried. I can't even... I can't stop thinking about that 10-year-old girl. Check this out. So this here is Matt Kaufman. He is the chief safety officer of Roblox. I'm going to talk about this in a minute,
Starting point is 01:24:36 but this guy here, he put out a statement after my whole situation with Roblox where he compared me to child predators. He said similar to actual predators, the work that me and my team have done, getting these child predators convicted is similar to child predators. That was what this person said here.
Starting point is 01:24:54 But anyways, check out this out. We'll put this up on on screen here. We make sure that adults cannot communicate with minors. Can you guarantee that that won't happen? With a car, with a bumper and the airbag and all of those things, can the car guarantee that you're 100% safe?
Starting point is 01:25:19 No. I wouldn't put a child behind a wheel of a car though. These systems are constantly being improved. No system is ever 100% perfect, but we are committed to going above and beyond what is being asked for us to do to make the platform safe. The thing with cars is a regulated. You know, that's the thing about cars. If you make a car that kills a ton of people, guess what happens?
Starting point is 01:25:46 You get sued. Exactly. Exactly. This is fucking crazy. This is fucking crazy. Yep. Tell me about... I can't even fucking think anymore.
Starting point is 01:26:00 I know. I'm sorry. I just... This is the world I've created for myself is going after this kind of shit. I just have to learn how to fucking deal with it. But... Oh, man. Tell me, you know...
Starting point is 01:26:14 Tell me more... I just need a break just for two seconds on the one... on the carnage and the fucking 10-year-old girl, man. A 10-year-old girl. I read you two lawsuits. There's a hundred of them that are filed. Anyone can read. Yeah, I totally agree.
Starting point is 01:26:37 We've talked about how they make, how it's easy to find, isolate, and exploit kids in the game through the private messaging app. Yep. Is there any other things that make it easy? Yeah. How do you interact? Maybe I should just play the fucking game.
Starting point is 01:26:55 Sure. So I can get an actual... You want to play it right now? I can pull it up. Yeah, but I do. One second. But then on top of that, content slash normal... So they had an Epstein Island, P.Ditty Games, adopt me, Dahlhaus, roleplay, condo games,
Starting point is 01:27:17 Biggie Island was up for four days, and then Roblox took it down. And violent extremist content, like, I guess there was a, what, reenactment of the Charlie Kirk assassination on the game? I mean, how does this shit? There's also on Roblox, I'm going to have you play some of the games, mass shooting recreations to, I mean, it is exact one-to-one of real-life tragedies. I mean, for instance, so Rob. And this is for kids.
Starting point is 01:27:53 Yeah. Go ahead. The Rob Elementary School shooting. Yeah, that was, that's a game I'm going to. I don't want to get ahead of myself. There's, you're going to, I mean, it's on the platform. All right, fuck it. Let's, let's, let's, let's, let's do this.
Starting point is 01:28:09 Let's do it. Should I probably, like, before I give you this, like, explain a little bit why I can't play Roblox? Because I haven't even touched. I haven't even touched the cease and assist letter or anything that this company has sent me. So, okay. I guess I'll start here. After all the stuff that happened to me as a kid, I just started making, like, I had a lot of friends in the community, so I still stayed on the platform.
Starting point is 01:28:36 I created normal Roblox gaming videos, and I was getting messages about child predators, and it blew my mind because this was the most innocent game you can even think of. It was that thing I was talking about at the start, that game I really liked. I was so shocked that there was even child predators on that. So I started, I made a new channel where I talked about a lot of these predators and horrible people in the community and a lot of the news and drama that was going on. And I eventually started going ahead and exposing these darker communities on the platform after I was just finding them on my own free time.
Starting point is 01:29:14 And I started making little Chris Hansen catches on the game where I'd dress up in his avatar and confront these people on the game. And then I got in touch with a predator catcher, and he showed me how to predator catch, and I researched the laws. And within 10 months, me and my team got six child predators within the Roblox community arrested. We would find these people in Roblox Discord servers,
Starting point is 01:29:41 and they would pretty much be trying to see the most vile stuff possible, and we'd be like, oh, I live like 30 minutes from you. And guess what? They're trying to arrange a real... life meetup. We were never with the predators. The predators had to be with us because there's a whole list of things like coercion and you know, you have to do it strictly by the book. And we would go ahead and talk to these predators and we would just be an innocent young girl who knew nothing about any of these people. And we caught six child predators. Two are now convicted within the
Starting point is 01:30:18 Roblox community. Here, I can show you just a few clips that I got from them. Okay, so this here is Amory Hunt. He is now a defender in Florida. This was actually cited in Florida's Attorney General lawsuit against Roblox because they mentioned my whole situation and this conviction. This is him. explaining
Starting point is 01:30:48 I'll let the video play for itself here. You can watch it. Hey, what's up? So we're here with your Roblox developer, right? Hello. Yep. We're about to do the wipe on his phone. We're going to get rid of the child
Starting point is 01:31:02 on your phone, right? Okay, how many images do you think we have to get rid of of a child phone? About like 30 or 40. Okay. And what's the game coming out that you got him Roblox soon? Hell yeah, we're going to make this game successful.
Starting point is 01:31:16 He was arrested on three counts of child. What the fuck was that video from? That was the predator who attempted to communicate with what he thought was a kid. I ended up talking to him and pretty much we couldn't arrange a meet because he wasn't telling his actual location. And I ended up talking to him and I was like, hey, I know some people who travel the country and they, they, you just tell him everything that you told me that. they can help you and get you get you resources you know i i showed up in person told resources to clean his devices to to he wanted to get mental help or whatever for for for looking and talking to children and um i was like sure here's and that was a predator catcher he showed up in
Starting point is 01:32:07 person to me he was convicted on three counts of child oh holy shit yeah and then let me show you this one. This here is... This here is Donald Boongarn. He is convicted. He's going to be sentenced pretty soon. He was a child predator messaging one of our decoy accounts on Broblocks Discord server. And when he showed up in person, he was trying to fake cry his way out of it. I mean, well, he's here to help you. All right, Don, so here's what we're going to do. I'm just going to put you in cuss right now. you're only detained you're not under arrest at this time until we can go through all this and figure up what we're gonna do it okay with that size man you were you're the wrong
Starting point is 01:32:58 you're messing with the wrong five do you go over here we go on please all right we're just gonna go over here and have a seat in my car like about your own bill friends stinky pussy Yeah, he was just convicted. He actually had arranged his, the car that he drove to that park with, the whole back of it. It was like kind of like a makeshift bed. He was planning to take a, believe, I want to say it was either 14 or 15-year-old to a trail nearby where he was going to viciously this girl and also record it. And I mean, his messages were so horrible.
Starting point is 01:33:49 I mean, they were just disgusting to even read. He was recently just, he took a plea deal with their detectives, or with their, what would it be, prosecutor's office. Oh my God. This here is Manuel Gonzalez. We caught him, I think it was June of last year. He showed up at a park with drugs playing to what he thought was, I believe it was a 13-year-old. He was charged on online solicitation.
Starting point is 01:34:34 And I mean, just listen to this. I mean, this is going to blow you away. This is while he was playing Roblox with our decoy account. By the way, I forgot I already mentioned that, like the first time I heard you. Thank you. I'm surprised you're still real. I don't know, I'm very nervous about it. That's one of my biggest here. Yeah, I thought you were like a, I thought you were like a police officer. You know? Me? Yes, you. I don't know. Maybe you're trying to get me like undercover or like undercover. Why?
Starting point is 01:35:05 Yo, because what we're gonna do is, uh, not good. It's pretty bad I heard, I think. That's what I've been told. I'm also like doing it with you so wouldn't that make me in trouble too? No because you're the one like the victim, I guess, technically, technically. How am I the victim if I'm okay with it? Because your brain is not fully developed, you know, it's like taking advantage with you, in a sense. It's like it would be our secret. It can be our secret. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:37 I'm still excited. I'm gonna sleep now. Yeah, I'm going to sleep now. Good night. Good night. Bye-bye. Bye. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:49 That's just a few of the predators that we've caught. And you would be surprised to hear what Roblox's response to these child predators were. We send Roblox. I think it was after the first or second one. I created an account specifically for sending Roblox. It was called Schlep Arrest. And I put that out on Twitter. I'm like, this is the account.
Starting point is 01:36:19 I'm going to be sending these reports to Roblox on. And we would send them the exact same Google drives we were sending to the authorities. I mean, like it contained everything, I believe just outside of like our IDs and stuff like that. And it had every chat log in it. We would actually go as far as to screen record us on mobile, scrolling through all the chats. You know, we do everything law enforcement asks us. So that was all given to Roblox. In numerous occasions, they did not take these predators off of the platform until after I released my video.
Starting point is 01:36:55 It got so bad. I had to create binder, a literal binder, and send it to their head recorders. And San Mateo just on the off chance, maybe just maybe an employee at this company would see it. And I would send them email saying, this is why I do it. I was groomed. I was victimized. And I, you know, I'm still dealing with the harassment from this child president. and I just want to help kids and they they they never cared they I never showed I
Starting point is 01:37:26 never got a real message from anybody at Roblox until I think it was August 8th that was a cease and desist letter and they banned not only my Schlepp account but my account where I was making normal Roblox gaming videos just innocent kid-friendly content They weren't even mixed in the slightest. They specifically targeted that as well. What the fuck? They saw those arrests and said I was creating more of a problem to the platform than the child predators hurting the kids on the site.
Starting point is 01:38:07 Where did they say that? They said that to you? I'll read the cease and desist letter for you. Can we get a copy of that cease and desist? Absolutely. Okay. Here's the email. Legal cease and desist letter from Roblox. And like, this is their attorney Tony Wable, who's also sent, this is an, and by the way, I'm not the first person that they've silenced.
Starting point is 01:38:35 Tony Wable, he represented Roblox in a lawsuit against another creator named Ruben Sim, who I'll get to in a second. So here it is. Legal cease and desist notice from Roblox. And this has my full legal name on here. We write on behalf of the Roblox Corporation. This letter serves as a formal cease and desist notice regarding your unauthorized harmful activities on the Roblox platform. Six arrests, two convictions.
Starting point is 01:39:09 That's harmful to Roblox thinks that's harmful. Just remember that. Your actions are not only a violation of Roblox's policies and directly undermine Roblox's safety. efforts and critically are exposing users to increased risk. Don't you think having these child predators within your community is exposing them to increased risk? Don't you think that these people could have potentially gone ahead, victimized someone on the platform? Could have been one of your lawsuits that could have been filed against you. I was stopping that from happening. I mean,
Starting point is 01:39:42 that's just so crazy to even think. And this is what it says. Those actions include engaging in simulated child endangerment conversations. So what? Should an actual child have to go through that? Should we put actual children? Is that what Roblox? It'd be okay. It's okay if it's an actual child.
Starting point is 01:40:03 That's what they're saying. That's how that reads. Sharing or soliciting personally identifiable information. And this comes from, like, we would say, our age on Roblox. That's what they're claiming, you know. You know, when you sign up to Roblox, you agree to a 70-page plus legalese, you know, and that's one of the things on there. Directing users to move conversation off platforms.
Starting point is 01:40:33 This is the one I find the most dumb in all of it, considering Roblox is the only other platform we use was Discord. Discord is linked on, like you can put your Discord right underneath your game and join it. Like, it is directly linked. linked, right? Like, it makes no sense. They're affiliated with Discord. How can you say we were, like, it didn't even make sense. It's not even compliment. That is actual insanity. It is. And now here's the best part. Roblox is committed to aggressively combating illegal and harmful conduct. Okay. Sure seems like it. Including child exploitation through, you know, talks about how they do stuff with Nike. Roblox maintains direct channels with NECMEC like the FBI.
Starting point is 01:41:21 While Roblox acknowledges that your stated intention may be to protect children. No, it wasn't May Roblox. It was, I fucking did. I did. I got two predators on your platform convicted. And I was getting emails from kids saying that their abuser was now behind bars. And while it recognizes that the serious nature of online predatory behavior, your methods, failing to report suspicious activity to Roblox through proper channels. We just covered that.
Starting point is 01:41:54 I- They never reached, they never once contacted me. Hey, this is a line at the company. If you have a predator, send it to us, we'll ban them right away. I would have used that instantly. I actually went as far as to say Roblox. I'm willing to keep most of my videos and stuff private, a lot of the stuff. I'm willing to even, I said at one point, I would sign any contract that this company gave me.
Starting point is 01:42:18 I said that. I said I'd sign any contract if it means I could help kids. Unbelievable. And I reported their stuff directly through their outlets. I was reporting through their roblox.com slash support. I would put the same account and they weren't looking at it until after we would release these videos. I mean, it's crazy to even consider that. I mean, that's, you know, they're actually were so weird about it.
Starting point is 01:42:50 Like, they would make us jump through so many hurdles. Like, for instance, they were like, we can't accept a Google Drive containing all the evidence. Can you upload it to YouTube video? So I did. Created a whole YouTube video for them. You know, you scrolling through all the chats, them showing up in person. Send it to them. Nothing.
Starting point is 01:43:07 And what bothers me so much about that is that if we were getting that, where we documented every ounce of evidence and provided that to this company. What if you actually get groomed on this platform like I did when I was a kid? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. According to accordingly and pursuant with Roblox's policies, Roblox will be permanently closing your accounts. Please note that Roblox community standards prohibits opening new accounts to evade an enforcement action. Therefore, we demand that you cease and desist from accessing the Roblox. platform. Please be advised Roblox reserves all right to take any and all legal action against
Starting point is 01:43:50 you should you violate the Roblox community standards continue, such as but not limited to a breach of contract. They're saying that they'll sue me for computer fraud if I touch Roblox again. Can you believe that? Unfortunately, yes. Why not get my abuser and actually sue him for computer fraud? Because this isn't about saving kids. This is about fucking money. money. Exactly. All this is.
Starting point is 01:44:20 Same with Cana Cook. Same with all this shit. Yep. Same with the Epstein files. It's about power. Exactly. They don't want to lose it. I will say one thing I find interesting
Starting point is 01:44:32 bringing up Canna Cook is that the same exact stuff that was mentioned where they're making children sign NDAs for, I mean that that's what Roblox is trying to do with their forced arbitration, where they are trying to move these lawsuits like that lawsuit I showed you of that 10-year-old
Starting point is 01:44:51 who was brutally assaulted by five people, they're trying to move that into an arbitration where it's behind closed doors. When you create an account, you're shining away all of that. That's what they're arguing, but a judge has already ruled that they can't do that. But that's how far that they're willing to go. It's unbelievable, unbelievable. For a company that cares so much, in their arbitration clause, it actually states that as a victim, you can only get $1,000 worth of damages out of the company if you're used. So your life-altering trauma, abuse, your child goes missing.
Starting point is 01:45:38 I can't believe they haven't even made a fucking tip line. Yep. If you got a predator, email them here. They don't even have that. They have a report button, but it doesn't work. A report button specifically for sexual abuse and exploitation or just a fucking report button? They have something only for Europeans. It's called the Digital Online Safety Act, which Roblox was legally forced to...
Starting point is 01:46:02 So it was a fucking legal thing. They had to do it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Well, they don't do that kind of stuff here in America. That's why we're the number one fucking consumer of kiddie and child trafficking. That's us. That's the United States.
Starting point is 01:46:17 I have no idea. And then you look at like how they're handling this Epstein shit. And you go, oh, no fucking wonder. Yep, exactly. We want to protect pedophiles, not prosecute them. We'd like to protect them. Yep. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:46:34 And then the last administration, the last administration, there was all the shit going on about maps. Oh, they're not pedophiles. They're maps. What the fuck is a map? Oh, that's a, that's a minor. attracted person. A what the fuck did you just say? A fucking map?
Starting point is 01:46:51 A minor attracted person? One, that's not a fucking person, okay? That's not a fucking person. And being attracted in fucking abusing and exploiting minors is not fucking okay. Not okay. But our fucking government right and left is trying to normalize this shit. It's fucking insane. I got to take a fucking break.
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Starting point is 01:50:06 I wish people cared about kids at these companies as much as I do. I know they'd be a lot more of safer platform. I really would. I mean, it's kind of crazy to even think about it Because, like, a lot of these executives, like, they're parents. Like, they have kids. And I really wonder if they would let their kids even interact with the websites that they're creating.
Starting point is 01:50:33 Last time I did something like this, it was with Ryan Montgomery. And I didn't, it's not that I didn't believe him, but I needed to prove to myself how bad this shit actually was. So I told him going to any chat forum, any social media platform, I don't really give a shit. it is. I got nothing but time, so I'll sit here for a fucking week if I have to. It took five seconds. What you're going to see is something that journalists, that the media has failed to document properly for a better part of half a decade now, I mean, it is some of the most vile stuff. You are going to be, this is on a kids game. I mean, that's, that's, It's going to blow your mind.
Starting point is 01:51:24 Let's do it. So as you know, I have my cease and desist from Roblox, so I cannot make the account. So you're going to have to, you know, put all your information in. Just make sure it's set to, yeah. So what you're about to agree to is 77 pages worth of legalese. If you get groomed, exploited, anything, they think they have the right to force you into a concealed arbitration. Um, that's... How many pages?
Starting point is 01:51:53 I believe it's 77. It's in the 70s range. I know that. Yeah, of Lee and they think kids, uh, they're trying to enforce this for kids. Let's just see what, uh. Yeah. I mean, this is what you're agreeing to, all of this, you know. Can I accept?
Starting point is 01:52:08 Yeah, go for it. All those little hyperlinks, just, I mean, you barely even scratch it. Look this. Are you under 13? Yeah. Like a kid's gonna read this? Yeah. Look at this shit.
Starting point is 01:52:20 This is what they think is enforceable. for kids. All of this. It probably is fucking enforceable. Judges have ruled at least as far as I'm aware that this isn't enforceable, but... Oh, and then you download all this shit? Yeah, you can download copy. I mean, it's like
Starting point is 01:52:35 what child is going to read... What child even knows what they're doing here, you know? Yep, there you go. Well, that's on their privacy page. I mean, this is what you're agreeing to. 34 pages. Oh, wait. Yeah. Here, let me, um,
Starting point is 01:52:53 Let me get up the game for you to play real quick. Okay. One second. What's going on, dude? I was just trying to make BFS of Ted Cruz as you called. Oh, really? Because Slep told me that you're interrupting our interview. We saw a video on Facebook of Ted Cruz,
Starting point is 01:53:15 and there was a pretty interesting one where he's talking about. It's not about attacking antenna files being a bad thing. Yeah. I call that, yeah. We're recording right now just so. say no. Yeah, I saw that too. Dude.
Starting point is 01:53:33 I was doing a lot better this morning before I talked to Schlepp about all this fucking roadblock shit. Dude. Yeah, roadblocks is a cesspool for sure. Yeah, pretty bad. This is fucking even worse than what you were saying.
Starting point is 01:53:53 This is fucking horrible, man. Horrible. That's the thing you're going to get with. with Shep, I mean, you know, I'm sure you heard some of his story, and I don't want to spoil any of the parts that he might not as a girl race. His main focus of knowledge is
Starting point is 01:54:09 investigating robots, and he has the chat logs, the conversations off the, you know, off of the game itself where they lower children. And, you know, that obviously, like, what you and I talk to about, 7, 64, verb.
Starting point is 01:54:24 You're breaking up. Free shot. Let me get some service with. I can't hear a damn thing you're saying. There we go. There we go. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:49 You're breaking up again. You're breaking up again. I'm going to let you go. If you can hear me, we're getting ready to, oh, perfect. We're getting ready to name his fucking abuser. His abuser's never been named. We're out. Well, my attorney's working on it.
Starting point is 01:55:09 we're going to name his fucking abuser and probably put his picture up you got that yeah you should definitely put his picture and slump is an absolute legend we're going to blast it everywhere yeah i fucking hate these people i hate these people all right hey we all got to get together and talk about that thing we're going to do to save kids absolutely sign me up all right love you dude later all right i'm going to start the recording on my end all right here we go all right Alright, so the first game I have for you is called A Sandy Experience. This is a hyper-realistic recreation of the Sandy Hook shooting. What?
Starting point is 01:55:57 This is a fucking game? Yeah. The Sandy Hook shooting is a game on a Roblox, which is... You're going to be pre-game. What do I do? Just hit play. Just hit play. It's nine and up.
Starting point is 01:56:10 Anyone nine-ing-up to play this? Nine years old. Nine years old are able to play Roblox Sandy Hook. This is fucking crazy. Yeah, I know. They're recreating a school shooting. To absolutely. And it's...
Starting point is 01:56:28 I will show you how realistic they got it. All right. So, yeah, this is Sandy Hook on Roblox. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah. So you can hit play right there. So you hit... So you can dress up as a shoot...
Starting point is 01:56:40 That's what he wore when he killed those kids. You can just hit something. I guess this isn't loading right now properly Okay, so this is his classroom Look at the fucking blood on the wall Yeah, that's the mom He killed his mom Yeah, when he started it
Starting point is 01:56:56 So that's supposed to be his mom So to walk around you press... So you pick what gun you want to use? Yeah, to walk around, you press W-A-S-N-D on your keyboard So yeah What does this do? Yeah, and then on the other side You can...
Starting point is 01:57:10 So hold on, they have a Glock, a... Sig and a Bushmaster. Pretty sure those are the guns he used. I mean, can these gun manufacture, I mean... Actually, Glock did file something against Roblox. Game developers aren't supposed to be using that. Yeah, I'm going to call...
Starting point is 01:57:28 I mean, I got a great... I got a buddy over at Sig. His name is Jason. He's the VP of Marketing. I'm going to have to call him right now and be like, Hey, dude, are you aware that these fucking people are, like, doing this shit? How do you get out of here? Looks like it buggy out.
Starting point is 01:57:42 Uh Here, wait, so you can move your camera with your, this thing right here, you see this right here. So you can, and then just rotate it. So hold down and rotate. Oh. Okay, so yeah, that's how you move. Oh. I'm not right.
Starting point is 01:57:59 Okay. All right, how the fuck do I do? Okay, walk backwards to press S. Should be, yeah, there you go. Okay. Now walk towards it again. again, you should, and then press E. Okay, so now just walk into there.
Starting point is 01:58:20 Oh. We might have to get a gamer in here. Yeah. Darren. All right. You know how to play this shit? Yeah, I play it. Do you mind being on camera?
Starting point is 01:58:33 All right. Which one is this, the shooter? Yeah, so just press E on that door. And then just walk inside. Did you hear what this shit? it is. Yeah. It's the Sandy Hook fucking shoot. Yeah. Okay. Back. Hey, let's make a video game where
Starting point is 01:58:51 we go and kill a bunch of fucking kids that actually happened in real life. Yeah. Every fuck. Could you imagine being a fucking kid that was at that school or a parent of one of the kids that fucking... How do I... How am I rotate? There we go. The rotate wasn't working. So yeah, just... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:08 So what do you do? Just run around from... You'll see. So go here, wait. Walk backwards. You see that staircase. Walk into that staircase to the left. Okay. Just press. Yeah. So this is at the school, that's a cold, I mean, that you've seen the-
Starting point is 01:59:23 Holy shit. It is Sandy Hook Elementary School. How you start this game is you shoot through the window, like how you, the Sandy Hook shooter did it. Someone's already in here so you can hear the alarms going on. I think it's, I think that's a window like there, you have to shoot. This one? No to the right.
Starting point is 01:59:45 Wait, what? You said nine-year-olds? Nine-year-olds. Nine-year-old's computer. I thought, I thought we just signed something. saying we're 13. Right? No, any age can pretty much
Starting point is 01:59:55 play low-blown. Oh, there you go. So, make a left-air? This is awful. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah. Are those innocent people?
Starting point is 02:00:09 They have their actual names of the victims above their head. You get a chicken crime. You get a leaderboard. Oh, my God. What in the fuck is this shit? See that police come in there?
Starting point is 02:00:22 So you could probably, you know, shoot the kids. Yeah. I mean, shoot someone just to show, like, what it does. It's not letting me shut this. Press R. Oh. And then. And then you got to reload.
Starting point is 02:00:40 Yeah, you got to be it. Yeah. Yeah. The mat. Hold on. Just the mouse thing. I don't know. Maybe it's not.
Starting point is 02:00:52 Maybe it's not working, but it's just. Try like. for your line Yeah yeah See how they have Bloods and ladder on them There's a room so I got the screams
Starting point is 02:01:04 Yeah Yeah I can't use it They have the actual room Dude who the fuck puts their kids on this shit Seriously They have the actual room
Starting point is 02:01:15 A bunch of kids They're in a bathroom And the teachers Got them in here When the guy came in And moved all these kids down They had the actual Room of that
Starting point is 02:01:24 In this game Are you serious? Yes. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I think they have the Yuvaldi game on here, kid. Yeah, I have that one. Yeah, I have that one.
Starting point is 02:01:32 If you want to press escape and reset your character to respond. And it hits you. So check this. It says the exact names of the victim, your victims, like it's like a leaderboard. Holy shit. Dude. They have the actual names too. So Stephanie Adams was a victim that was killed at Sandy Hook.
Starting point is 02:01:57 was killed at Sandy Hook. I'm not exactly sure, but I know they have other names that are the actual victims. Yeah, that one's pretty bad. Where are we going now? Hit escape. Yeah. And hit leave. So right there.
Starting point is 02:02:12 Okay. And there are some sick fucking people. There's X? Yeah. And then go to there. This? Yeah. Hit the Rob DeBank one.
Starting point is 02:02:26 See that one at the top? So this is the Yuvaldi school shooting. maturity is set to minimal. So I believe that means any age can play this. Like any age on the entire site can play this recreation of the Uvaldi school massacre. Okay. So yeah, you can hit play. So this is Rob you can see there. So this is the actual shooter. Unlocked. Can we unlock the chat? There's nobody else chatting. Oh. So I mean, you've seen the security camp footage that the kid walks through this door here. I believe he starts shooting at some people. And then he makes a right. Holy shit. And then there was two classrooms where this guy mowed down, I think it was 22 children.
Starting point is 02:03:15 Any LOL in their blood? That's in this game. Like down to that level of detail, yeah. Yeah. I hate to say this, but if you want to show what actually ends up happening, you can... Look at that. Look at that. There it is. Where? That's a Daniel defense.
Starting point is 02:03:33 Yeah. Yeah, so just shoot someone. You'll see how... See, their legs are coming off? Oh, my God. You can see their eyeballs get squirted out of their pen. Yeah, look at that. Now, would it surprise you, Sean, if I told you that shooters are referencing a...
Starting point is 02:03:57 Robloch and their manifestos? No, because it's a... it's a... it's a fucking legacy for them. It's... If I do this, my name will live forever. on Roblox. Yeah. There's an Epstein Island one too? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:15 Do you have that one? I have a video of it. What does that one do? It's a... What are you going there? There's actually a lot of different variants. There's some that are like simulator games. There's some that are like war games.
Starting point is 02:04:28 Do the carbine one. So this is Columbine on Roblox. So they have like every single shooting... Do they have Covenant from here in Nashville? Yeah. Yep. I saw that one. Yeah. Like, they even watch it.
Starting point is 02:04:47 Oh, wait, it's not this game. Yeah, you can equip your inventory of pipe bomb, the same guns. You can dress up as a shooter. Yeah. Okay, so... You just select your stuff and then you go. Just choose a gun. Yeah. And then you can also, you can be either Eric or Dillon Cleveland.
Starting point is 02:05:16 There's actually a lot more on there. So Ramos, I believe that was the one for the... the, which one was that? That was Evaldi, I think. So you can be in Hattick. Yeah, these are all the different other, Nicholas Cruz. So yeah, there's a Columbine school right there.
Starting point is 02:05:43 Is this like where you enter? This is insane, man. Some other people are playing, I guess. Oh, yeah. Kill yourself or kill all the SWAT. That's what I just said. Kill yourself or kill all the SWAT. It's, it's, it's, this is almost like predictive programming shit.
Starting point is 02:06:07 For kids. Oh, yeah. I mean, this is what kids are getting exposed. Maybe it is predictive programming. Mm-hmm. Yes, your plane is... Kill yourself or kill all the cops. I mean, it's...
Starting point is 02:06:21 This is fucking crazy. Did I not choose a weapon? I think it might be broken because there's another person in the lobby, but you can walk around the map to see... You just run away from them. Yeah, they're already trying to shoot me. Yeah, just try to get into school.
Starting point is 02:06:40 Yeah. Oh, man. There goes again. Kill yourself or kill. all the swat. Man, this is sick. Yes, this is the entrance into Columbine. All right, we got all the school shooting shit.
Starting point is 02:06:54 Yeah. Is it all like this? Is there any normal shit? How long is it going to take for the 7-6-4 cold or a predator to get to get to me? Let's see. But they could see the age, and I think I said I was born and like... Put dollhouse in? Of course, they don't fucking know that.
Starting point is 02:07:13 I guess all the kids are probably lying on their age. Yeah. A lot of kids do. Which one? Just hit search on that. Yeah. Should be one. Let me see.
Starting point is 02:07:28 I mean, if they have all this, if they have all of, if they have recreated some of the most horrific, tragic events in recent American history. I mean, it's cute court, R.P dollhouse. I do that is there is there is there shit on here too huh oh yeah oh totally there's so much stuff on the platform search up meet uh me or meet v i think it's the name is it m e e t yeah and then v yeah okay and then just hit play on that that's a the game next to it is a tinder game on roblox they have tinder on roblox yeah so just hit start so we got someone messaging us just here you can already oh well um it you know what omega is yeah it's functionally the same exact game so just click start yeah just click start actually someone's trying to add you just hit accept on that he's probably going to try to send a message but uh you can just keep it and
Starting point is 02:08:31 start until we messer's bag um okay skipping us mm-hmm okay oh this is basically like chat roulette yeah this is chat roulette you'll have someone asking something that Say hi back. Say, what are you doing? Oh, you freaky. Do you see that? Are you fucking serious, dude? Yeah, you freaky.
Starting point is 02:09:08 Yeah, he's wanting to... Are you fucking serious? That was like five seconds again. Say yeah. There it is. The time... Say yes. Yeah, just say yes and see what he wants to do.
Starting point is 02:09:17 That was like 20 seconds. Yeah, 20 seconds was on the time. That's how long it took. Are you actually? Let's just see what he's going to say. He's probably going to try to get us on either Snapchat or Discord. Oh, he's trying to add us. Should I had him?
Starting point is 02:09:36 No, I wouldn't have him. See, how did you see? You can just skip him, honestly. But yeah, I mean, you can just see. It's already there. It's already fucking there. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:09:48 You can skip this guy. Oh, my gosh. That was like the first fucking guy. This guy, this is what people are wanting to do to your kids on this game. Yeah, hi. One question. Okay. No fucking way, dude.
Starting point is 02:10:02 What do you think is question? Are you freaky? You just say, Yeah. Holy shit! Are you fucking kidding me, dude? Yep. And then he's going to be like, you want to talk on Snapchat? We're recording this shit, right?
Starting point is 02:10:16 Yeah. Yeah. Do you got the sound of clock? So he's talking TikTok. Mm-hmm. We can talk on TikTok. So he's trying to get... Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:31 Imagine a kid plays this. You want to know it's crazy. The chief safety officer had a badge on his account. Hold on. Tell one of these motherfuckers you're the police. Okay. I just want to see what happens. See, maybe a normal conversation.
Starting point is 02:10:59 Maybe, maybe. These are like... This is going to go somewhere. You can tell. I'm doing great as well. How's Roblox today? Just getting started. That sounds like what a predator, what do I?
Starting point is 02:11:16 I mean, like, that's... Just give it a second. Say, I'm just chilling. I'm bored. I'm bored. That's usually like their go-to move. And they'll be like, Oh, here we go.
Starting point is 02:11:35 Oh, my God. Yes, I'm bored, too. I'll see. No fucking way, dude. They're everywhere. Every single fucking person on here. Yep. Say, say, what are you doing right now?
Starting point is 02:12:02 Usually, these conversations, they get somewhere. Yeah, you can tell. There's no reason. Yeah, he's fishing. Or somebody's fishing. Oh, talking about how the conversation is dry. So you can see where they're going for. Say, what would make the conversation interesting?
Starting point is 02:12:23 Yeah, I mean, they're literally just trying to fission something out of you. Yeah. Go to another one. Wait, what's... Oops. Holy shit, dude. So that's what? I guess that's a...
Starting point is 02:12:51 Oh, here you go. This is going to be someone. Oh. You can tell when their avatars look like that, they're specifically there to do stuff. Like, it's nine times out of ten. Because it's like a fresh account. X, X, X, X, X, X. You see that?
Starting point is 02:13:08 I mean, just look at the usernames. Chat in Lovers, 6-7-67. It's your favorite, Ron. I mean, these are, it's crazy. See, is you going to say anything? Male or female? Female. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:42 How old are you? Oh, my God, dude. Should I just say I'm like 10 or 12? I wouldn't say that because this is what they put in their she-s and desist letter. I don't know. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:53 I'm 17. Yeah. Okay. I don't know what to say to that. I mean, I think pretty much that gets a point across all these. Yeah. Isn't that insane? They're not 17.
Starting point is 02:14:05 I'll fucking guarantee you that. Mm-hmm. These are how many literally grooming cases start. We actually almost caught... Dude, it's every single fucking person. Mm-hmm. We did a test and we found it was 40, no, I think it was 30% of users in this game are looking to do, break the rules of our overlies. He's back.
Starting point is 02:14:27 Yeah. Say why. Let's ask him why. Yeah. Roblox says this is impossible for people to share. Personally, I've done Fobloon phone. Are you in the mood? Oh, yeah, I wonder. I really wonder. Kind of.
Starting point is 02:15:00 Scared him. Yeah. Scared him off. I mean, that's crazy. Holy shit, dude. Every single fucking person we've chatted with is eluding. That game has 122 people. Played this game here, friend me.
Starting point is 02:15:16 Okay. This game is Tinder on Roblox. I mean, it is literally Tinder on Roblox. Do I need to select any of these? Yeah, just select. Yeah, you just have to make a quick profile. Just select something. Okay, so you can just see like, dislike.
Starting point is 02:15:34 It's literally, I mean, this is Tinder. I mean, this is actually just Tinder. And when you match with someone, you get a private chat with them. Okay, so should I match each one? Yeah, you can just match people. see who ends up messaging us. So you'll see some, it'll pop up, so just keep liking them. I'll tell you when to stop.
Starting point is 02:15:53 Okay. I mean, these avatars, when they're dressed like that, they are, there's a whole thing on Roblox with race play. It's crazy to even say that, but... What do you mean? What? They, uh, I think it's the Black New World Order. There's a whole thing on, like, they dress up like that, and they call themselves Bulls.
Starting point is 02:16:14 I it's the it's insane and they they're looking for snow bunnies yeah it's it's great I can't even yeah take a look at their avatars usually they have something on them so that one's panda yeah that one's fine but usually there's like I'll say like I'm dominant or something so that's fine and so what's the point of this does people it is it is it is up in real life it is this it's Tinder. So you see that? That was definitely something. Yeah. So pretty much you get these people all online too. When they like you, you get put in a private, it's literally Tinder. Like it is functionally the same as Tinder. I'm not a Tinder or. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's the same thing. Like or dislike, that's that's Tinder and then when you both match, you get in a private chat. So I'm hard.
Starting point is 02:17:11 Holy shit. Yeah. Uh-huh. And how old do you have to be to access this specific game? Let's see. If you go to the thing, I can see it, like the game page on it. Like over on this? Oh, well, I think, when you exit out, I can tell you. Okay. Somebody going to match us, you think? I don't know. It usually doesn't take long.
Starting point is 02:17:35 What does that say? When you run, it's more. Murder hawk. It's more fun when you run. To think that your kids could be playing a Tinder game on this site. It's advertised safest. Dude, just think if I would have just, what did I put my screen name as? Just think if we would have put like, I don't know, Vanessa 13.
Starting point is 02:17:59 Oh, dude. You would be getting so many messages. There's one last game I think I want him to see. It's one last shooter game. I think this one's really bad. You should probably see this. So you remember the Christchurch shooting that happened in New Zealand? You hit X on that.
Starting point is 02:18:16 So you click that. So this is the Christchurch shooting on Roblox. Built identical to the real-life one. And on March 2019, you armed righteous fury and arsenal vengeance, pretty much the mosque, live stream your crusade to purge invaders. You can hear, that's the actual shooter. That's the audio from the shooter. It didn't even have this music playing in his car on the way or something.
Starting point is 02:18:49 Yeah. This is fucking crazy. Yeah. It's active shooter events that are now video games that are telling you to kill yourself or all the cops. Yeah. Then we go into that one thing and we have what, like four or five people. Yeah, it's like, you know, there was some of them like right off the bat. It wasn't one instance.
Starting point is 02:19:10 It was it was multiple upon multiple upon multiple. So yeah. This is fucking crazy. It's unbelievable how this game will advertise itself safe to parents and platform this. It's laughably insane. I mean, that is so crazy. As routine shifts this time of year, travel, longer days, busier mornings, the one thing I try not to let slide is my health. That's where AG1 comes in for me.
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Starting point is 02:21:22 that should be false advertising. Like, how can you be a safe game for parents and have Sandy Hook a literal Randy Hook, Columbine, Udallvi, you said... There was a Pulse Nightclub one, which I didn't show. The Buffalo shooter, actually, I'll
Starting point is 02:21:38 show you that one right now. So pretty much everything. The Charlie Kirk stuff. Yeah. Exploitation. Whatever you could. You're lowering kids out of the game and kidnapping them and the 10-year-old that was by five different men? Yeah. What the fuck, man?
Starting point is 02:21:57 This is the shit that parents need to know. Yeah. But, I mean, honestly, how long does it take, let's say, how many games are on there? Millions. Millions? Yeah. How long do you think it takes just an eight-year-old to run into something? Well, I can show you this. I think out of everything I'm going to show you today, this will probably be the most important because it's
Starting point is 02:22:22 It's anecdotal, but it'll put an actual kind of a in your head an actual number on this This here I'll show you this. So this here is someone who is a founder of a child safety organization She goes into a classroom and you'll see what she asked the kids The big, big, big, big thing that I wanted to talk about today is online gaming. Start off talking about robots. Who's had that happen? Put your hand up for me. You're not the trouble.
Starting point is 02:23:04 Half the kids raise their hand. To do something that was inappropriate in the game. Or someone has... Look at that. Look at how many kids in this classroom are raising their hands. I... Is that not unbelievable? not unbelievable. I mean, that shows the true scale.
Starting point is 02:23:36 Yeah, I just, I can't, I can't. I mean, we just fucking saw it. Our own, I was able to, I mean, it was, it was, it was, it was, 20 seconds. We had to somebody chatting. Uh-huh. Yeah. How old are you or whatever they said? You want to get freaky? Yeah, do you want to get this? Two different people said that. Yep. Yep. I mean, that, that's how it starts. Within, I mean, I mean, Yep. I mean, that's how massive and widespread this problem is. I mean, that's, it's, I've never seen anything like this on the internet. I mean, that's, you know, for instance, the game that you showed where all the, or I showed where, you know, people are saying, you freaky, all that, that is based on a game, a social media platform called Omegel, which was sued out of existence for child exploitation. It was in their seven, terms that they had to shut down Omegal because of a child abuse lawsuit. And that is, it's uncomprehensible how they could even platform something like that.
Starting point is 02:24:48 I'm so fucking pissed, I can't even fucking think right now. Yeah. I mean, it is so crazy. I, parents need to take their kids off of this game. I mean, I showed a classroom. it is 100% your child has seen something at minimum on the... I've talked to so many kids. They'll tell me like, oh, I was just playing and I saw this and I saw that.
Starting point is 02:25:16 My email is 90% kids, hey, I saw this inappropriate thing. Can you do something about it? That is most of my emails. From kids. This stuff goes much beyond just predators. It's extremist groups. It's like, I mean, here's one thing. I think you'll find interesting.
Starting point is 02:25:44 So the Buffalo shooting that happened in New York, that shooter specifically cited two Roblox games and said, I'm just saying I probably wouldn't be as nationalistic if it weren't for blood and iron on Roblox. I mean, he cited... You said that? That is in the manifesto of the Buffalo shooter.
Starting point is 02:26:06 And guess what? They've recreated his shooting on Roblox in graphic detail. You can see here, you load in. Dude, why, what the fuck? Why would you allow this shit? You remember it was live streamed. So it was at this top store. It was targeting black people.
Starting point is 02:26:27 And the first girl that he killed, that little pan right there, it's the first girl he killed. Holy shit. Yep. And then, yeah. And it's crazy. It has a whole story. See his gun, how it had that writing? How the fuck is Ro Khanna, the first and only fucking congressman? And probably nobody in the Senate and probably nobody in the administration has done a fucking thing about this shit. What the fuck, man? What does that tell you about our fucking politicians? Holy shit. I don't know, man. Like, how the fuck can you allow this shit to go on?
Starting point is 02:27:14 It's crazy. What the fuck, man? What the fuck? See, this security guard? That's a real security guard who was shot and murdered that day. It has his name. There's a fucking picture just came up. Well, this is in the video, but that's him.
Starting point is 02:27:31 They put on Roblox of him. It has his name right there and everything. and in the mass shooting... Are you serious? In the mass shooting, there was a guy who was white and the shooter said something like, oh, you're white, I'm sorry, and didn't murder him.
Starting point is 02:27:47 And this says right here, let me see. Oh, he's white, don't shoot. That's what it's right above where that person was. Are you serious? That's how realistic. And I think it's crazy. This shooting cited Roblox. It's cited Roblox within it.
Starting point is 02:28:09 Had it in the manifesto. I mean, that's unbelievable. I mean, the writings on his gun, like this is his actual gun. It's in the game on Roblox. Like, they've modeled it down to the writing on his gun. I mean, that's... So they make it as realistic and as accurate as possible.
Starting point is 02:28:32 Yes. Names, names of victims. Yep. They have leaderboards. Exactly. You have leaderboards of how many people you killed. And yeah. I mean, what could a game possibly like that be doing to our youth?
Starting point is 02:28:47 We know exactly what it's doing to our youth. Yeah. There's also a lot of... Actually, I guess we don't know exactly, but we know how bad it's fucking getting. Yeah. Holy shit. There's a lot of ISIS stuff on Roblox as well. This is predictive programming of millions of kids.
Starting point is 02:29:08 Yep. That's what the fuck this is. It's making this shit okay? It's real events. It's real fucking events. Holy shit. Yeah. And this is what politicians for 30 years are trying to tell everybody that, oh, these games, they're harmful.
Starting point is 02:29:28 They're making kids get radicalized. And then there's now actual, like this. Proof. That's it. It's fucking proof. It's in manifestos. We just proved how easy it is to get exploited on there. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:42 What do you do if you're... How young are people playing this game? It's like six? You can make an account at five years old. Five years old. Yeah. But Roblox has stuff from like even younger than that. Like they have My Little Pony, they have blippy, you know, just the most young-centered
Starting point is 02:30:00 brands are on it. But once you're in, you can navigate to anything. Yes. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And anything, in, what, I mean, of course a predator would be in a fucking blippy thing or a, or a My Little Pony thing or insert whatever, whatever kids are in fucking cocoa melon. Yeah. Baby Finn.
Starting point is 02:30:24 All of them. Yeah. And all those games are probably in there because they're just ripping everything. Holy shit. It's crazy. Yeah. So. Holy shit.
Starting point is 02:30:36 And they sent you a fucking... They sent me the cease and desist. Are they suing you? They didn't sue me, but I can get into this. There was another content creator by the name of Ruben Sim, who exposed child predators on Roblox. He was directly tied into a case related to a Roblox developer grooming a child who ended up... He, this developer, abducted this girl. Um, I'll talk about that in a second, but pretty much the lawsuit was this entire, it was for 1.6 million dollars.
Starting point is 02:31:15 And they said his cyber mob was harassing people and the company. And it was the most frivolous lawsuit. I mean, you could possibly believe. Like for instance, one thing within this lawsuit that it claimed was, let me get it real quick. It claimed that it, this social media. manager by the name of Jack Hendricks was he was photoshopping him nude and posting it online while working for Roblox the social media manager was literally posting nude photos of himself online and he posted this this is one of the social media
Starting point is 02:31:55 managers at Roblox he all he did was show why is the social media manager at Roblox posting this working for a kids company and they said that he was photoshopping him nude another claim that made was he uploaded a nude picture of himself in a lampshade and he asked Roblox's attorney is, where is this? I never did this. You guys are lying and defaming me for this and they wouldn't give it to him. And Roblox settled out of court, I believe, with them, but I mean, he was whistleblowing on this predator problem and this was clearly Roblox doing everything in their power to silence a whistleblower.
Starting point is 02:32:38 But about this developer that was grooming kids on Roblox, this developer was named Arnold Castillo. He had a very successful Sonic game on Roblox. It wasn't in collaboration with the Sonic Sega brand, but it was immensely popular. And on his Roblox game, there was a Discord server where if you went to that Discord server, you could join his community. And he was procuring kids within this Discord community, linked on Roblox, and he was grooming, like vicious. It came out that he was grooming people. Ruben Sim went ahead and filed a police report with his local police, and he was trying to get the police to do something about this guy.
Starting point is 02:33:20 And pretty much nothing happened. And eventually, it comes out months later, he goes... Actually, what happened was... So, Roblox knew this guy was grooming kids on the platform. platform and Rubinson brought this to the attention of employees at the company. They terminated this developer's account and then they reinstated him. They brought him back to the platform. And then the guy ends up grooming another girl.
Starting point is 02:33:55 He ubers this girl from one part of the country to another state, like, like, bribed this Uber driver $1,000 to do it. He ends up doing horrific stuff to this girl. The FBI ends up catching this guy with this girl that he got from his Discord server. And Roblox, and that whole time was paying and allowing this guy to be on the platform. And the only reason why his game was removed off of Roblox is because Sega sent a DMCA request to Roblox. Why are you hosting our brand on your company?
Starting point is 02:34:32 Holy shit. Holy shit. And a pedophile made it. Like that's crazy. I think it's a little bit insane with all that happening. Sega actually came back to Roblox to make a game. Can you believe that after that happened with their brand? Holy shit.
Starting point is 02:34:48 Yeah, and while all that was going on, that's when they filed this $1.6 million lawsuit against Ruben Sim and accused him of all this stuff. I mean, that is totally unbelievable. I, that was them silencing a whistleblower. And I guess this next time around with me, they just went with the cease and desist. But Roblox has a history of silencing people coming out about their predatory behavior taking place on their platform. Have they done anything to an actual predator? At all? I know that there was a guy in Marion County.
Starting point is 02:35:30 They followed a NECMEC report about and he and, you know, ended up getting arrested. I mean, they don't do enough. That's definitely for certain. I mean, you saw it. They definitely don't do enough. I can't, I can't even fucking believe what I just saw. I was a fucking game that you say is being advertised is safe for kids.
Starting point is 02:35:58 How the fuck is that safe for kids? How the fuck is that acceptable? How the fuck does a parent let's... What the fuck is happening? I have absolutely no idea. And I think it's... I mean, I've personally warned tons of parents about this shit.
Starting point is 02:36:16 I mean, I'm not even talking about through the fucking show. I'm talking about personal relationships. Some of their fucking kids are still fucking around on roadblocks because they don't want to deal... They don't want to fucking deal with their kid by pulling them off the place.
Starting point is 02:36:32 platform. I mean, what... It's fucking crazy. Mm-hmm. And we're, we just, we showed them with the seven, we haven't even talked about the seven six four shit. Oh, I have a whole thing on seven, six four. I haven't fucking talked about it.
Starting point is 02:36:47 Mm-hmm. And we just proved it. Yeah. And there's still going to be people that let their fucking kids go on that game. Yep. Just so they don't have to listen to them. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:36:57 Just so they can go fuck off on their phone and look at, whatever, their fucking Instagram. It's fucking crazy. Yeah. It's fucking crazy. And like I said, this country is the number one. We consume more of this shit than anybody else. Exploitation and trafficking in media.
Starting point is 02:37:26 Yeah. It's horrific. And nobody's doing anything about it. Yep. Well, I shouldn't say nobody. I don't, I don't, I just, I'm not unaware of any politician other than fucking Ro Khanna. Exactly. Who I don't even agree with on much. But thank God somebody up there is doing something.
Starting point is 02:37:47 For sure. I mean, we got everybody else just sweeping it under the rug. Like, why is it just sweeping it under the rug? Why the fuck wouldn't we, why wouldn't we investigate every single fucking person that went to Epstein Island? Let's just sweep it under the rug makes my friends look bad. Yeah. It's insane. Oh, man, I feel like I'm going to fucking puke.
Starting point is 02:38:12 It is so sad. I look back to that video with all those kids in that classroom and half of them raising their hands if they had been offered to do something inappropriate. I mean, think how many kids in that classroom didn't understand that question? Like, I get so many emails. Like, I wish people could see it from my view because it is so immense. They're going to see it from your view now. A small, a very small glimpse. Yeah, that's why any parent that asks me, should I let my kid be on Roblox?
Starting point is 02:38:48 It's just a withstanding no. Like your kid, this game is dangerous. It is so dangerous. these spaces that they're advertising as safe are not safe. I have only briefly touched on these cases. I mean, for instance, last year, one of the lawsuits filed was a 10-year-old who was kidnapped in California and taken to Northern California
Starting point is 02:39:12 from a 27-year-old that they met on the Roblox game, Mike Up. So they met someone on this Roblox game, showed up at their house and drove them to Northern California. The parents have filed a lawsuit against the company. And there's so many horrific, horrific, horrific abuse cases related to Roblox. What kind of consequences of you face for diving into this?
Starting point is 02:39:50 No, at breakfast you had said you had been swatted. Yeah. Are you being threatened? I mean, you are fucking with some very powerful people, really fucking power. Look at me, dude. I'm being serious. I'm being fucking serious.
Starting point is 02:40:05 I mean, Ryan Montgomery and I took $6 billion off the stock table in one fucking week. How much do you think it costs to fucking take a hit out on somebody? I can tell you this much, it's a hell of a lot less than $6 billion fucking dollars. It's pretty terrifying. What are you doing to protect yourself? Are you doing anything? I don't want to go into the specifics of that, but I am very aware of the position I'm in. I mean, everybody knows what happens to whistleblowers,
Starting point is 02:40:36 massive multi-billion dollar corporations. You have to stay loud. Yep. Yep. I mean, that's, it's suppression, then silence. So, I mean, that's, I don't know. I mean, at the end of the day, I really, I'm just, I, I've had to deal with my own crazy stuff as relational all this.
Starting point is 02:41:02 I had the FBI come to my house. I mean, we were being swatted by pedophiles of Roblox when the news broke. But, yeah, I mean, we, I mean, I had the FBI coming to my house asking me about the predators. These fucking people run the world. It's scary. It's terrifying.
Starting point is 02:41:24 You know, it's how can you? It's unbelievable. I mean, I didn't even show you this. All right, everything that I've just told you, lawsuits, you know, them doing what they did to me. What the executives of this company want for Roblox is going to blow your mind. Listen to this. This is the CEO of Roblox on stage. He pitched this in 2023, and he also pitched this again after my situation when it blew up and became like the really huge thing on the internet.
Starting point is 02:41:58 This is him pitching the idea of turning Roblox into a dating. platform that minors can access. Up this to 18 plus. Okay. This one's controversial, but here's what I want to share with... For 18 plus verified people in 18 plus experiences, thousands of adults will meet for the first time in Roblox dating experiences and subsequently form real life relationships. That's their priorities right now.
Starting point is 02:42:31 That's what they are prioritizing. I mean, it's so crazy to even comprehend that. That was just this year. But there's no way to verify the 18. I mean, we just did the birthday. It did say you had to verify your birthday. What does that mean? You had to verify your birthday.
Starting point is 02:42:48 To chat message. How do you do that? So you scan a photo of your face. I got a photo of it here. Let me see. You scan a photo of your face? Yeah, so this is it. So get a photo of your face.
Starting point is 02:43:05 turn left and right, and then boom, it gives you an age that it thinks you are. Now, let me just first explain how... So you just... So anybody that's a parent, you just have your fucking kid do it? Yeah. Yeah, for one, the company that they're trusting to do this age check is being sued over how they handle biometric data. So, I mean, there's a whole data privacy, massive concern related that.
Starting point is 02:43:29 But really, all you need to do is just get a kid to do it. No, actually... Could you just do this real quick for me? It's so easy. And you can just buy. We already know that... You can just buy one of these accounts with any age you want on it. So what is that?
Starting point is 02:43:42 So... Oh, you can... You've got to be fucking kidding. Yeah. And... Where do you buy that? You buy it on eBay. eBay actually...
Starting point is 02:43:49 Oh, you're on fucking eBay? Mm-hmm. What is that... Does that say 13 to 15? 13 to 15 year old. And what this means is you can only talk to 13 and 15 years old. Online, they're joking calling this the Predator Buffet update because it allows predators to select what age group they want to communicate with.
Starting point is 02:44:08 It's like this thing is made for them. I can't comprehend it. I mean, there's messages from predators. Anyone selling a 13 account? No. Why? So I can have some fun? Fun how? You can have fun with people your age.
Starting point is 02:44:28 You're 19. Stop being a creep. I do have people my age. I got both. You told a 13-year-old you were upset because she was underage. because she was underage and had a crush and you had a crush on her. Where is that? This is on Discord and they're trying to sell and trade underage Roblox accounts. And they are, not trying, they are.
Starting point is 02:44:48 They are. Yeah. I mean, it's... Holy shit, dude. Yeah. Can you just, can you do me a favor and screen record, pull up eBay, screen recorded, and just, I just want to see how many... eBay did recently put out a statement saying that they are removing these profiles, but I am curious if it's still there. So I'll tell you right now.
Starting point is 02:45:11 When was that, how long ago was that? I want to say about a week and a half ago, maybe two weeks. But let me see. So they just moved to something else. Yeah, I mean, you can, let me see, Roblox account. Fucking Craigslist or Facebook Marketplace or who knows where. Oh, yeah. Oh, wait, no, that's not it.
Starting point is 02:45:27 Let me see. And there's tons, 18 plus. Yeah, okay. Roblox. Let me see, 13. I mean, I'm seeing accounts on here that are listed 18 plus. Just look up Roblox Kids accounts. Yeah, let's see.
Starting point is 02:45:46 Roblox age 13 account purchase. You're shopping. Roblox account for sale. Looks like eBay took most of their stuff down. Well, that's fucking good. Yeah. We got some good news today, Schlep. That's fucking good.
Starting point is 02:46:12 I think it's crazy that eBay is having to clean up Roblox's mess. I mean, that's... Look up Facebook Marketplace. Let's see. I wonder if they got it. We're also people selling shit. Is Craigslist the whole thing? Probably. Let's see. Roblox Age account. See gift cards. Yeah, here we go. I think I found one. Yeah. Look at this. Oh, well, I guess it's a little...
Starting point is 02:46:44 I think it's a different currency. I'm not even sure, but it says here, Roblox account 13 to 15 years old, voice chat enabled. You can buy this. What is their website? Oh, this is Carousel So that took you about 60 seconds to go find a underage account to go buy This is fucking crazy It was the top result pretty much I mean like
Starting point is 02:47:08 Yeah, that's crazy You can just buy one I yeah That's That is crazy Just to think too It's not They will always find a way
Starting point is 02:47:21 This is what I was talking about at the beginning They will always find a fucking way. If we take, if, if roadblocks cease to exist tomorrow, it's gone, whatever, it's gone. For sure. They're going to the next place. They aren't, it never, it's never going to stop. It's never going to stop. This is for the parents.
Starting point is 02:47:46 It's never going to stop ever. You have to fucking stay vigilant. You have to be vigilant about this shit. When something happens for Roblox, Discord, any of these other platforms, a new one's just going to pop up. I mean, that's kind of the thing about it at the end of the day. I mean, all really what needs to happen is these companies need to have new executives with their primary mission being their platform is a safe platform. No one wants to put their kid on a platform. That and what also needs to happen is people need to get their fucking kids off the internet.
Starting point is 02:48:23 True. They need to get their fucking kids off the internet. I mean, I've, alone have covered this shit. I don't know. I'm one of the only ones that I'll even talk about it. Nobody will even talk about this shit. It's fucking crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:48:36 Like, nobody gives a fuck. They're like, I don't want to talk. What the fuck? Like, what? What greater purpose is there in fucking life than to do good and protect fucking kids? Yeah. I, I, I, I, I want to touch you to my kids. get fucking demonetized.
Starting point is 02:48:54 Who fucking cares, man? Fuck off. Grow a fucking sack. Holy shit. Exactly. It's fucking crazy, man. Man, yeah, I think the thing...
Starting point is 02:49:07 Oh, fuck. It's just the scale, man. How big this problem is. It's everywhere. Yeah. It literally is everywhere. I mean, Roblox is one component of it,
Starting point is 02:49:22 but it's... Discord, all these other social media sites. I mean, so many kids, you're getting hurt. It's, in today's day and age, you just cannot give your kid an iPad. It's in the biggest Christian camp in the fucking world. Yeah. And they're doing the same shit as Roblox. Yep.
Starting point is 02:49:39 They're sending out NDAs, settling, and then saying, you could never fucking talk about the fact that you were molested. Oh, or somebody was reading scripture. over them while they're doing this shit it's just it's fucking yeah it's great it's everywhere kids are going to be
Starting point is 02:50:00 and always will be always will be for sure it's tragic I think my attorney is like the number of victims that they represent is I think over 3,000 victims of Roblox and Discord-related abuse that's I mean that's such a crazy number
Starting point is 02:50:21 they have law firms Law firms that are set up. Yep. And that's their thing. This is like, that's how widespread this is. Think of how many people
Starting point is 02:50:33 didn't go to a law firm. We went down, we looked up the, the shit, I forgot the name, the name of the law firm that sent me the cease and desist from Springfield, Missouri
Starting point is 02:50:45 for the Cantercook shit. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, they wanted me to apologize. They wanted me to do a public apologize and apologized to fucking Cantercuck. I said, sorry, I don't negotiate with pedophiles. Fuck off.
Starting point is 02:51:01 Literally. And then one of my guys looked him up because I asked. I was like, I wonder how many fucking pedophiles this law firm has represented. And one of my guys looked it up. First thing that popped up was like big thing in the Catholic Church. Guess who got them out of it? Gosh. I don't know the name, but don't worry.
Starting point is 02:51:25 We'll throw the cease-send assist up right fucking now. It's got their phone number, everything. You know what they did? You know what they did? They fucking, they turned the comments off on their ex-account because so many people were fucking pissed off that they're defending a fucking pedophile. Why do you have a pedophile as your client?
Starting point is 02:51:43 Who does? Who defends them? Like, what the fuck, man? I couldn't even imagine. I'd love to chat with your attorney about this. because that's all they do, right? They represent a lot of so, like even beyond Roblox, a lot of abuse cases. I think they've represented some clergy abuse cases.
Starting point is 02:52:03 So, yeah, I mean, they have a lot of stories to tell in relation to that, sure. But, yeah. Well, Slap, I got you something. You know, that's why I was asking what you're doing to protect yourself. Oh, I, I, I. I have to tell me. I just, I got this. Oh, you did?
Starting point is 02:52:24 Okay, yeah, yeah. Let me see. Stay there. Okay. All right. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. Dude, that is awesome, bro.
Starting point is 02:52:35 Have you heard of Sig Sauer? Uh, no. Okay, well, now you have. So, this is a 556 weapon. Uh-huh. And I got a really good friend over at SIG. His name's Jason, and I was already telling you about him. He's the VP of Marketing.
Starting point is 02:52:50 Actually, I got to call them today to let them know that their weapons, their firearms are being used in Roblox, you know, to simulate school shooters and kill kids on a video game. But anyways, new optics line, this is what all the military is going to. This is a 5-5-6, got a flashlight on there. And then I made another friend, and it silencer shop. And so silencer shop put a brand new suppressor on this. Yo, that's so cool. Yeah, so here you go. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:53:28 I appreciate that. Oh, my gosh, that is so cool. There you go. Oh, man, that's awesome. Yeah, I only recently got into shooting. I'm going to love... Oh, you're into shooting? Yeah, I recently, yeah, I've been going with friends, like, out to the range, like, every week or so.
Starting point is 02:53:42 What are you shooting? I don't even know the gun I got. I recently just got a pistol, so... What did you get? Um, is blinking on my mind. That's all right. I got one. I do have one, yeah.
Starting point is 02:53:55 Well, now you have the coolest fucking gun at the range. Heck yeah. Oh, man. Cool. I'm going to teach you how to shoot that damn thing today. Heck yeah. I'm very excited. Right on.
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Starting point is 02:56:45 At this is Ironclad. Here's what I want to talk about. I want to talk about the thing that you don't want to talk about. I want to reveal the name of your abuser. Are you ready? Yeah. Are you sure? I'm ready.
Starting point is 02:57:02 I've been wanting this to happen for a very long time. You know, it really, you know, your dad out there was almost in tears. He may have been in tears. He said that he had never heard that name, that you had kept that name from him. And we're about to release it to millions and millions of people. Are you ready? Nolan, are you ready for your name to be broadcast to the entire world that you were fucking abusing, my friend Schlepp here?
Starting point is 02:57:31 Yep. We're going to put your picture up. Again, your name's Kevin Nolan. He lives in Ireland. Yep. Kevin Nolan. Everybody, if you're listening to this on something, go to the video form and look at this picture.
Starting point is 02:57:46 This is Kevin Nolan. What was he? His name was Ripple on Roeastern. Roblox. Ripple. Yeah, that was, that was him. And he was a developer? He was a developer, yep.
Starting point is 02:57:57 I would love to hear from Roblox more about why they abandoned him. They haven't said a single peep. By him, you mean Kevin Nolan. Yeah, by Kevin Nolan. Ripple. Abusing kids. Mm-hmm. I'm glad that's out there.
Starting point is 02:58:10 I know that there's been a lot of mystery onto why he's been, was removed off of Roblox. He was removed off of Roblox for being a pedophile and grooming kids. I will say that's something I've been trying to get out there for a very long time. I'm really... Well, tell you what, Roblox made him famous, but he's about to be a lot fucking more famous than he was with Robux. I can guaranteeing to you that. Yep, and that person, he sent me gore, sent me... He would ask me horrible stuff when I was a minor.
Starting point is 02:58:40 He victimized other girls, and he's a total monster, and that's why Roblox banned him. I mean, that was the reason why. an article of Kevin Nolan. Yeah. Online. We'll post that too right now. I just want to put it up on the screen. He was blackmailed, which I ain't the, the, the, the, the, the, the truth is the, he groomed that girl viciously. He grew, he, he grew, he, how the fuck do you say, how, how is he, how would you even create a narrative that he was blackmail? Blackmail, what is that even, like, blackmail. So what, what ended up happening is he had, uh, this victim did end up trying to get a Roblox item out of him. Um, and I guess, Yes, they did, and then Roblox instantly reverted it. But I mean, at the end of the day, it was he groomed this girl viciously.
Starting point is 02:59:28 She dropped out of high school over the abuse she suffered. So I mean, and even beyond that, I mean, I literally saw my own, he did that stuff to me. He literally, I have the images. I have the images of sending me the Christchurch shooting when I was a minor. I have the images of him sending me back when I was a minor. I mean, I don't even know what he, you know, the only thing he could do is apologize to all the victims that he abused. What the fuck would that do? Tell me about it.
Starting point is 03:00:06 Exactly. I mean, it's, I think, I think out of anybody who really owes the biggest apology is Roblox to not only me, but my family. And they never, they never cared. They never cared about what we went through. They don't care about any of the victims. They, something I did want to talk about with you was after my cease and assist, there was a chief safety officer at Roblox. His name is Matt Kaufman.
Starting point is 03:00:41 He had put out a statement, and mind you, before this, I'd come out saying I was a victim on this platform that a popular developer groomed me. when I was a minor, he made a statement on Roblox comparing me to child predators, similar to actual predators, the behavior of getting these people arrested, that's similar to them. And then he sent me an email. After I released my video, it was Roblox Take a Seat with Chris Hansen. He stated, here, I'm going to actually pull up this email for you because it is so shocked. I mean, it is unbelievable what he sent me.
Starting point is 03:01:20 Follow-up from Roblox. Hi, Michael. I understand our decision to moderate and ban your account came as a surprise, something you wholeheartedly disagree with. This is Matt Coffin, the same guy, a week prior who compared me to actual child predators. That said, our intent has been to keep the platform safe, and I believe that is something we have in common. Would you be up for a conversation to see if for some way we can keep you active in the Roblox community? Nothing about me being groomed. No apology for comparing me to child.
Starting point is 03:01:53 That was something I really was so deeply offended about. They've never once apologized for making that statement. And just to float in, would you like to come back to the Roblox community? Are you serious? Who the fuck would want to go back to the Roblox community? You wouldn't want to do that, would you? I wouldn't want to touch Roblox after. everything that's happened. What the fuck? I really wouldn't. I just, I've
Starting point is 03:02:21 such a foul taste. That's like, hey, you've used you, you want to come back to Camp Canacook? Exactly. I mean that, that, no, exactly. Exactly. What the fuck? That's, it's so, so, so, we'll give you a free pass. Yeah, we don't fucking bet you will. Turns out I'm too old now. What's crazy about this specific email, we had my law firm actually responded to Matt Coff. And they made it explicitly clear all communication must go through my legal counsel. I mean, that's why you have a lawyer so that this stuff is handled between lawyers, not, you know, the individuals in the party.
Starting point is 03:03:03 And he emailed me directly. Like, he reached out to me directly. And then I believe it was a week or so after that. I forgot the exact dates. But the CEO of Roblox was asked about me getting kicked off the platform for, for, He responds to a question by completely ignoring it, and then the journalist asked him, once again, why did you kick this guy?
Starting point is 03:03:25 Your community is really passionate about this. And he said, Schlep broke our terms of use, and we really don't like that, but we love Schlep's feedback, and we would love to, and we reached out to Schlep. They use this outreach as if they properly reached me out. I mean, the offer was always on the table for Roblox if they wanted to have a conversation. But I'm not going to be privately courted into these sort of channels.
Starting point is 03:03:54 I mean, that's just ridiculous. And I think the other thing here too is that I want to see Roblox show some form of compassion for these survivors. I mean, that 10-year-old that went through that horrific abuse, that girl who had to get an abortion from a predator, they met off of Roblox. They should not be trying to be more. moved into private arbitrations, kind of like what happened with Camp Canacook, where they're trying to get these victims to sign NDAs, that should not be how Roblox is handling these horrific child abuse cases. I mean, they should really be apologizing.
Starting point is 03:04:36 As long as I've been looking into this, I don't think I have seen any fucking institution apologize, make good. I mean, it's impossible to make good. It's because it's always about the money. It's never about the kids. It's always about the money and the power. Exactly. It's politics, it's power. It's business, it's money.
Starting point is 03:04:58 I mean, like, that's the thing. I bet you Matt Kaufman and these executives are watching it. I mean, literally all, I just want an apology, you know? And I, you know, I want these victims to get justice. These victims deserve it. I mean, they've been so. horrifically abused. I don't know how you can sit in an office and look at these cases as they roll up on your desk and just see games like these mass shooting games, these
Starting point is 03:05:26 giant games filled with exploitation, and just feel good about yourself. I mean, I don't know, you know, they have kids, I don't know how you could sit there and think, my kid could play this. Like, that's just so backwards. And anyways, to get to get a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit more in depth on this. Now so far there's been five states that have filed lawsuits, Attorney Generals. But I thought the most interesting one was the Florida one. I was cited in it for my conviction that we got there. But what is interesting about that one is it started out with a subpoena and then they upgraded it to a criminal subpoena based on the findings of the initial subpoena. And on an interview that Chris Hansen did with the Florida Attorney
Starting point is 03:06:13 General, he pretty much said that he saw that predators were being reported to Roblox, and Roblox wasn't properly doing what they should have been doing. I mean, that's insane. I mean, that's why it's now a criminal, they're being criminally investigated, this company. Here are, I got to bring up some good news because there's not much. Here's all the pieces of shit that are standing up for the, for the fucking big tech gaming community. First one, Tom Keene Jr. out of New Jersey. Good job, Tom. Great work. Here are the state attorney, and we'll get into the rest of these later when we get your attorney on. State Attorney
Starting point is 03:06:56 Generals investigating or suing roadblocks from August 2025 to present. Here's the states. There's not very many of them. Number one, Texas. Number two, Oklahoma. Number three, Louisiana. Louisiana, number four, Florida, number five, South Carolina, number six, Kentucky, number seven, thank God, Tennessee. And that's where it ends, folks. That means there's 43 other states that just don't give a fuck. I know some states are definitely looking into it right now, but yeah, I mean, this is why it's so important. Call up your attorney general's office, tell them that you want this company. investigated. I mean, that's, you know, these people, they need to know that as a constituent, you want this company investigated. Because I'll say one thing, I mean, just from my own personal
Starting point is 03:07:56 experiences, we were getting child predators arrested on the platform and they didn't care. I mean, I thought, I'm actually blocked by the CEO of Roblox, specifically because of a child predator that we got arrested and out of the six cases we've had, it's the only one that the prosecutors, I guess they dropped. And, I mean, it was an open and shut case. This guy showed up at a park to meet someone that he thought was a 13-year-old. I believe he's either 21 or 22.
Starting point is 03:08:28 And this guy is still abusing kids online. There was a video that was uploaded very recently about it. And he's back on Roblox as of this moment. I'll actually, I'll show you his Roblox account Just so, you know, if any Roblox executives, they're watching this, this is a child predator. I got a- I can guarantee-in-fucking to you. They're all watching this.
Starting point is 03:08:49 This is a child predator right now who is on Roblox that I caught and got arrested, who's currently using your platform. Let me get this. His name is Keani Govia, and he is from Hawaii. But let me find this. I got it right here. So this here is a predator that I got arrested. He showed up at a park in Hawaii to meet a 13-year-old girl. This is him on Roblox right now.
Starting point is 03:09:16 What's his screen name? It is Kitty Cat, Catty, But. So K-I-T-T-Y-C-T-I-E-B-U-T-T-T. This guy actually... Kitty Catty But? Yeah, that's his name on the site. And he's been arrested. For, yeah, he was arrested.
Starting point is 03:09:36 But from my knowledge, it was the only case that we got that that was. was dropped by the police. I was told by Gideon, which was the guy I worked with on this, that the detectives were even confused by it because I guess the prosecutors didn't know how to charge for this specific online solicitation. But he is still grooming kids. I actually think it was about a week ago.
Starting point is 03:10:02 I had to get two kids to call, or I talked to their parents. This guy was sending nudes to these kids. I believe they were 15 years old. So he's still actively abusing kids. And he's on Roblox. Make sure you take that screenshot that. We've got to put that up so parents know if they see that fucking screen name. Absolutely.
Starting point is 03:10:24 Of course, any parents is watching this that are good parents, their kids will never see fucking roadblocks ever, ever again. Now get this. The reason why I was blocked by the CEO of this company, he had made another account to get back onto Roblox. you know, initially when we told Roblox about this, we sent them everything. They ignored it until after the arrest. But when he came back to Roblox after getting banned,
Starting point is 03:10:52 and I emailed their support. I'm like, this guy's a child predator. We got him arrested. This is all the chat logs of it. Here's him admitting that he's him, all this, and they ignored me. So I tweeted at the CEO of Roblox, I replied to one of his tweets, hey, this is a child predator and your AI email system isn't even doing anything. Like, this is his Roblox account. Can you ban him?
Starting point is 03:11:16 And he blocked me on Twitter for it. He blocked me on Twitter for that. Yeah. Can you believe that? I mean, that is crazy to even think about. I was just gonna go find them, but it was probably not a good idea, right? Yeah. And with the Roblox official Twitter account,
Starting point is 03:11:37 I tweeted at them when they put out a big thing about safety. I'm like, why are you guys trying to force 10-year-olds into private arbitrations to silence them from coming out about their story because they want to seek justice for their abuse? I mean, why are you guys doing that? Can we get a statement? They blocked me for that. Of course. Yeah, they don't want to talk about their arbitration clause and them trying to move cases into these private arbitrations. I think it was 100 parents recently just wrote a collective email or a letter to Roblox saying how unethical it is for them to even consider doing it's the priorities of this company are backwards they it should be stopping these child predators but for the CEO it's adding dating onto this platform you know it's another
Starting point is 03:12:25 thing that was pretty shocking was an interview that the CEO of Roblox gave where he was asked about bringing polymarket, like something similar to polymarket on Roblox, which is
Starting point is 03:12:38 gambling, right? And they asked it to him as a joke, like, oh, you should do
Starting point is 03:12:44 that. And he's like, no, I think that's a great idea. If we could do that in an educative
Starting point is 03:12:49 way, if we could introduce gambling to children in an educative way, that is the CEO of the company.
Starting point is 03:12:58 Wow. Wow. Unbelievable. Absolutely unbelievable. Absolutely. Unbelievable. there's one so I told you we had spoken
Starting point is 03:13:07 to not we well we Jeremy spoke to they reached out they wanted to chat with me I didn't I was like nope not till I've done yeah
Starting point is 03:13:16 and Jeremy but you know we need to do that this is what we do here we gotta hear inside this is the one the one thing that we kind of got that I need to ask you yeah
Starting point is 03:13:28 that some of your critics say you just find predators on Discord in blame Roblox. How do you respond to that? The predators that we find, we find them in Roblox Discord. Like, these are people searching for Roblox games on Roblox, and Discord is a massive facilitator of this.
Starting point is 03:13:53 I mean, they enable and host these communities. And pretty much, we would literally join these servers. And there's... You know what? this doesn't even fucking deserve a response because we just we just pulled it up we just pulled it up and within i think it was 20 seconds yeah we got a guy that wants to it's such a foolish wants to get freaky yeah and then the next guy also wants to get freaky we talked to like five people i think that are alluding to hey what are you doing oh you're bored oh i'm bored too gee i wonder what the
Starting point is 03:14:27 fuck that's going to turn into anybody with half a fucking brain can figure that out Yeah, I mean, I- Let's take a break. Let's go blow some shit up. Hell yeah. And then when we come back, I'm going to talk to your attorney. We're going to wrap this fucking thing up, put a bow on it and fucking send it to Kevin Nolan. Want more from the Sean Ryan Show? Join our Patreon today for more clips in exclusive content.
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Starting point is 03:15:36 and so you work for a law firm that specializes in what? We represent survivors of abuse. It's all we do at Gould, Greco and Hensley. We represent survivors in, you know, digital exploitation like Schlep and others. And we, you know, we have clients who were exploited or abused in, you know, in clergy settings, hospital settings, school setting. So we specialize in this area. It's all we do. We do it well.
Starting point is 03:16:12 Our staff is all informed by trauma-based training. And yeah, we're very proud of the work we do. Are there, I'm just, I love what you guys are doing. I've actually never heard of a firm that just specializes in that. So thank you for what you're doing. Are there firms that also specialize in defending pedophiles? This is what they do? I mean, there's definitely firms that specialize in defending institutions that, that, you know, give refuge to pedophiles. Oftentimes, whether it's, you know, their employees or others affiliated with their organization, yes, there are law firms that specialize and have a, you know, a relationship with companies and parties that
Starting point is 03:17:01 find themselves on the defending side of litigation. I just don't know how you do. We just have one send us a cease and assist from Kanakuk. I'll put it up again because we dug in. They're also defending the Catholic Church back when all that shit was going on. So they have a history of this. So I just want everybody to know who they are.
Starting point is 03:17:21 So we'll put that up on the screen. Sure. But, man, I don't even know what to talk about first here. but let's talk about the Safer Gaming Act that puts big tech over survivors. Yeah, sure. What is that? So the Safer Gaming Act is one of probably 18 pieces of legislation that is going through Congress right now that's presented to the public as being something that will improve the safety of games
Starting point is 03:17:57 and help survivors of digital exploitation like Schlepp and like our other clients. You know, they all have very ambitious names like Safer Gaming Act, Kids Online Safety Act, etc. But buried in that legislation is a provision that basically gives immunity to tech platforms. It takes away the right of survivors to bring lawsuits against these. companies and it basically gives that right to the federal government. And so it's something that we're really, really glad to be talking about right now because we think it's a huge issue that folks are just not aware of that there is this concerted effort to give
Starting point is 03:18:46 companies like Roblox immunity from wrongdoing and negligence and neglect and carelessness because they had all these pedophiles on their platform. This is crazy. So they want to give these tech companies that are making games immunity from victims suing them for being assaulted or exploited on their platform. When was this bill introduced? I got everybody who's supporting the bill right here. We're going to read all their names off.
Starting point is 03:19:21 And you know what? We're here to name names. It's that important. You know, these are in this session of Congress. And these are the biggest companies in the world. And they're looking for immunity from our Congress to, you know, to prevent the kinds of cases that we're bringing now. Why are we bringing these cases? Because we want to hold them accountable for knowingly putting their profits over the safety of kids.
Starting point is 03:19:57 kids. They knew this was going on on Roblox. Everything you saw today, the game experiences, the content, the extreme content, the issues with identifying your age. They knew this has been going on for a long time, and they made the choice to focus on their profits, to focus on their shareholders, to focus on their own bonuses and their own compensation instead of protect kids. And now that, you know, the chickens are coming home to roost,
Starting point is 03:20:33 they're going to Congress for a loophole. How does this happen, Stephen? Is this, I mean, this is lobbying, right? These people are most likely, is that the proper term? Most likely, maybe. Yeah. Being paid off to fucking sponsor this shit.
Starting point is 03:20:52 Yeah, I mean, these folks, they may think that what they're doing is improving the safety of these platforms and helping kids. And, you know, either they don't know what the preemption provision. You really think they think that? They either don't know what the preemption provision in their bills mean, or, yes, they're, they're cozying up to big tech. And, you know, neither of those situations is acceptable. Well, we'll put them all up on screen here, too.
Starting point is 03:21:24 But let me. So this is who sponsored. Bill. This is Tom Keene Jr. of New Jersey. It's him. It looks like a nice guy. He may be a nice guy. Yeah, he may be a nice guy. He looks like a nice guy. He doesn't want kids to be able to have any retribution from Big Tech games. And you got to call him on it. Good job, Tom. Here's some more. This is Representative Chris Smith, also from New Jersey. This is Darren Soto. He's from Florida.
Starting point is 03:22:03 Yeah. So there's them. And we got Tim Walberg, Michigan. Laurel Lee, another Floridian. Yep. Good job. Good job, Congressman. We got Gus.
Starting point is 03:22:21 Do you know how to say this guy's name? Baralcas. Yeah, Baralcas. Oh, another Floridian. Oh, Kathy Cassie. or also Floridian. Yep. Good luck with re-election.
Starting point is 03:22:37 And then we got Neil Dunn and Ron Davis. This is a safe messaging for Kids Act of 2025. What's that? A free pass for... It's all the same shit, huh? Yeah. It's just all these different bills that... This guy's from North Carolina here, Ron Davis.
Starting point is 03:22:55 There are good ideas in some of those bills, but they're all completely undermined by the fact that they take away the right to survivors to seek accountability. They take away the rights of states' attorneys general to bring enforcement actions. You were talking with Schlepp about the number of attorneys general that have already brought suit. These bills would take the power away from those attorneys general and give it to the FTC and give it to the federal government. So this is a warning to those politicians.
Starting point is 03:23:28 We are going to be in your districts. talking to your constituents about these bills, asking these constituents, who do you think your congresspeople should take the side of? Survivors of sexual abuse or pedophile protecting platforms? All those folks probably voted to release the Epstein files, and at the same time, they're secretly behind people's back, and quietly looking to take away the rights of abuse survivors from digital exploitation on Roblox and other gaming platforms.
Starting point is 03:24:10 So we know what you're doing. We're not going to lie down while you feed our kids to the wolves of big tech. I just want to reiterate for all the congressmen out there. And the people voting for these congressmen, we just talked about a 10-year-old that was picked up, brought to a hotel, and. by five different people. So something like that, something like that happens, she's not going to be able to seek retribution.
Starting point is 03:24:43 They're going to say that, you know, any attempt for her to seek retribution is inconsistent with what these bills are supposed to require and therefore, look, I'll answer the question simply. No. They're going to say she shouldn't be able to seek retribution because Congress made all these bills. And again, they either don't know what's in their bills or they support it.
Starting point is 03:25:10 And neither of those are acceptable in our view. And we are going to keep talking about it. This issue is not going away. We are not going to let Big Tech completely eliminate the rights of survivors to get accountability in the court system. I just can't believe this shit, man. I can't believe how many people go out of their way to protect this shit. It's fucking assonide. They think nobody's paying attention.
Starting point is 03:25:42 And they think, and they're wrong about it. But how do you live with yourself? How do you live with yourself by putting this shit up there? Or defending these people in court? Yeah. It's just... So what's going on? on with Schlepp?
Starting point is 03:26:03 Schlep is acting with tremendous courage and continuing to speak out against one of the world biggest tech platforms, the biggest and most popular game in the history of the world, Roblox. And he's a problem for them. People trust Schlep.
Starting point is 03:26:22 He's a whistleblower. He's authentic. He cares about survivors. They're trying to do whatever they can to make Schlep go away and make this issue go away. And it's just not happening. He has his own experience on the platform, but he really is transformed into an advocate for other survivors and has just blown this issue completely open. I mean, what does this look like without Schlep? What does this
Starting point is 03:26:51 look like if Schlep gets the cease and desist letter and like what they were hoping he would do is, you know, shuts up, removes his content off off. of YouTube. Doesn't speak up anymore. That's what they were hoping he would do. That's not what he did. But without Schlep, I don't know, this whole discussion, I don't know that it's happening right now about Roblox. So he really is the tip of the sphere, and he is a hero.
Starting point is 03:27:18 Do they have anything on him right now? Are you guys fighting anything? I, you know, they've accused him of violating their terms of service. Meanwhile, there are pedophile using their platform, violating their terms of service. Those guys don't get banned. You know what they do? They disable the account,
Starting point is 03:27:39 and they send them right back to the home page so they can make another one. They don't track who's on the platform. Or they just go buy one on whatever. Even easier. So they don't have anything on Schlep. And Schlep has everything on them. And it's going to remain that way.
Starting point is 03:27:59 we represent him. We're going to continue to represent him. We're going to continue to defend against bullying the threats and intimidation and anything else they want to throw at him. And if they want to try and bring him on, well, he's an advocate for survivors. So that discussion is not going to happen
Starting point is 03:28:22 with Roblox without some acknowledgement of the absolutely traumatic injuries that the 10-year-old suffered, that, you know, a 13-year-old girl who we represented was kidnapped suffered. We represent over 3,000 clients right now. I mean, these people matter. These injuries were real.
Starting point is 03:28:42 You're over 3,000 clients? We may have close to 4,000. This is a massive issue, and having Schlep at the front of it is really, really going to be, I think, beneficial for survivors. Have you guys, I mean, have you guys had, are you, do you have a PR campaign? Are you trying to get this out? I mean, who's paying attention?
Starting point is 03:29:05 I can't believe nobody's covering this shit. Nobody's covering this shit. How is that even fucking possible? You know, what, what's great about what you guys did today in your format is you actually are going to show people what this game is like. A lot of media organizations, you know, they want to cover both sides. They don't want to go too far. you know, they're concerned about going after a big,
Starting point is 03:29:30 and being too critical of a big company. And, you know, your courage in giving Shep the time to go through the issues and to show what's on that platform, that's huge. That is huge. So, no, we don't have a PR campaign, but we want people to be aware of what's going on on this platform. We want parents to be aware.
Starting point is 03:29:54 Parents deserve to know what's happening on this platform. the kids deserve to be protected when they're playing it, kids as young as five, as he said. And, you know, survivors have the right to tell their stories in the way that they want, not to be preempted by politicians in Congress, not to be forced into arbitration, where, you know, the public will never learn what Roblox knew and when they knew it.
Starting point is 03:30:21 So thank you for covering this. and I hope that this will encourage others to cover it because it's a huge, huge child safety story. It's the biggest child safety story that, you know, in recent time. Possibly ever. Possibly. So many people are on that thing.
Starting point is 03:30:41 Do you know how many people are on Roblox? Well, they claim to have 80 million daily active users. So that, you know, that's just a huge number of people worldwide. Worldwide. Well, I'm sure this is a lot of people. just a problem in the U.S. Not at all. We already know about Kevin Nolan
Starting point is 03:31:01 over in Ireland. Look, in Australia, they just came up with a ban on social media. They've got one in France, too. They're moving in the right direction. We're moving in the direction of taking away the rights of survivors to get accountability.
Starting point is 03:31:16 It's backward. And the reason it's backward is because the people don't know about it yet. And once the people find out about this, you know, we are confident that they're going to call their representatives. Call these folks. These calls matter.
Starting point is 03:31:30 And, you know, you'll have Roe Kana. I don't want to kind of put them all in the same, you know, basket. He's been a tremendous advocate for survivors of abuse. Dick Durbin, Lindsay Graham, they're trying to repeal or sunset Section 230, which is another, you know, ridiculous immunity that a lot of these, the world's biggest,
Starting point is 03:31:54 biggest companies get the benefit of. So there are some people out there that are on the right side of this issue. Well, that's good to hear. That's good. You name three. You got to start somewhere. And Massey. There's four. Four. I'm all out of names now. This starts somewhere, right? We're not discouraged. This is the beginning. We are going to get people behind. making sure that the rights of survivors are preserved and that they have the ability to go to court and present to a jury, what, you know, let the jury decide. Did Roblox act reasonably when they failed to require age and identity verifications? Did they act reasonably when there's a, you know, a mother whose son in New York is missing and she calls Roblox for help and they take weeks to get back to her?
Starting point is 03:32:54 the choices Roblox made in designing their game is what needs to be scrutinized. And we're confident that that's going to happen. I told you guys at breakfast that we've had been having dialogue with Roblox. Yeah. Do you think I should have the CEO on? You know, I think if you have the CEO on, you're going to get a lot of conversation about scale. like to talk about scale. Yeah, the AI age verification, it doesn't work, but we're trying to do this at such a scale. And if you're criticizing that, then you don't understand. Scale is not something
Starting point is 03:33:41 that just happened to them. They built the scale. They're profiting from the scale. So if you have them on, and you know, maybe you should, I know you're going to push back on that. Scale is not an excuse. They built the biggest platform. They did it on the backs of kids and parents who they misrepresented, who were misrepresented by Roblox advertisement saying it's safe,
Starting point is 03:34:10 saying it's educational, saying, you know, we have the best and the safest platform in the world. So if you have them on, is there any grounds for like a class action? You know, our cases are not a class action because the damages are distinct and unique to these particular plaintiffs.
Starting point is 03:34:31 We have plaintiffs who've been extorted, storted, kidnapped, plaintiffs who were coerced into sending CSAM and then who had that CSAM end up on the dark web. So we have all these different kinds of cases that wouldn't be good for a class action. But we're consolidated in a sense. single court, and we're working together to try and get a just outcome for all of them.
Starting point is 03:35:02 What's the name of your firm again? Gould, Greco, and Hensley in Chicago, Illinois. Get ready, buddy. It's going to be a big influx. I hope you guys got a good recruiting department. We got a long fight ahead of us, but we're ready for it. Well, let me know if there's ever anything I can do. Appreciate that.
Starting point is 03:35:19 And it's serious. I'm dead serious. If you think there's something in particular that's big like this that needs exposure, I'm your guy. We appreciate that. My pleasure. Love what you're doing. Thank you.
Starting point is 03:35:29 Thank you. Dude. Holy shit. What an interview, man. Crazy stuff. Do you even realize the fucking magnitude of what you're doing? That's the crazy part because I can't even comprehend like what, like the snowball that I've kind of like morphed into, you know, an avalanche. I mean, that's the only way I can describe it.
Starting point is 03:36:33 I mean, it, you know, started out with me just getting rid of some of these horrible people in society. And it ended at a corporation wanting to make an example out of me and be one of the biggest instances of a strident effect for the world to see. So, yeah. You are a hero, my man. I appreciate it. I mean that. I appreciate it. That takes a lot of balls to do what you're doing.
Starting point is 03:37:03 I really do. It's been very stressful, a lot of sleepless nights, but I mean, at the end of the day, you know, I just get satisfaction knowing that there's, you know, people out there who can't hurt kids anymore. You know, just that, that alone I trade every account I own, trade all the stuff that Roblox had to do for me, just to know those sick monsters can't keep doing what they're doing. You know, I talk to Ryan about this all the time. I have to check in on them. How are you doing? How are you doing? It's been a lot, been very mentally exhausting. I'm very thankful. I have a very loving girlfriend who's been there literally since day one for me.
Starting point is 03:37:54 And, you know, I have a great family that has my back. But it's been very stressful. I mean, it's been such a challenging situation to have to deal with. I mean, just, you know, I, you know, at the end of the day, it's just like, it's really hard to, to everybody, this should seem like such a cut and dry issue. Like, this is something that, you know, the sky is blue. This is something that everyone should fight for because it's kids, and this is the biggest gaming platform in the world. and, you know, it's crazy to see sometimes pushback on certain stuff. I mean, like, I remember some developers when I just stated that the age estimation problem
Starting point is 03:38:44 could be a tool for predators. I got some pushback from people on the platform. You know, I got a lot of pushback from people on stuff like TikTok when the age estimation update came out. They thought I was the one responsible for it, which, no. I'm very against. I've probably been one of the most vocal people against it. So, I mean, it's, I think that.
Starting point is 03:39:09 What are you doing to stay sane? I mean, Slep, you are in the middle of the most evil shit on this planet. Yeah. I know. Are you doing anything to take care of yourself? Really, what's been keeping a lot of my time is me, friends catching predators like that's that's why I spent a lot of my time I mean I know it doesn't sound like the most relaxing thing but it is kind of like I get to hang
Starting point is 03:39:36 out with my friends and we get to stop bad people and something I really really enjoy doing and playing video games I guess to really kind of like what I do to keep my sanity during all this make sure you keep check keep tabs on your mental health man absolutely shit will catch up to you yeah and I tell this to all the time and he never fucking listens to me yeah but it's gonna catch up with him it's gonna catch up with you it's gonna catch up with me you cannot live in this shit forever absolutely you have to fucking take care of your mental health yeah because this shit's gonna catch up and Ryan tells me I don't have time for do that
Starting point is 03:40:13 because if I do that then I'm not saving kids but my caveat to that is if you fucking go down and you can't come back up because you have a fucking mental break or something bad happens then there's gonna be lots of kids that aren't saved. Absolutely. So you can't help anybody if you're not helping yourself. I want you to look at me, man.
Starting point is 03:40:34 I'm being fucking serious. This is the darkest shit on the planet that you're in. I know. There's days where it's just like it's so overwhelming to see all the... Put yourself in my shoes.
Starting point is 03:40:47 You wake up, you check your email and it is tens of emails from kids saying I saw this. I mean, I'd be abused. I mean... I wish I could help everybody, you know. I, like, it's just kind of like, all you can do is sit there.
Starting point is 03:41:03 I know what that's like. It's, it's real, that, that to me is the hardest. Like, I wish I could help so many more people I reach out to me. And all I can really do is just kind of nothing. You got to have somebody filter that shit for you. Yeah, yeah. You can't read all those. I know.
Starting point is 03:41:21 You're doing everything you can. Mm-hmm. And that's all that matters. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy. And I mean, you know, when I was a kid, I saw a lot of, like, graphic material and stuff.
Starting point is 03:41:35 But I mean, just like, I guess some of the stuff that I've had to expose myself to while seeing this topic. I mean, it's some of the craziest stuff you could possibly believe. I mean, 7-6-4, their heinous stuff for doing the kids. Here, let me show you one thing. This is the last thing I'll probably show you on Roblo.
Starting point is 03:41:57 So there was a guy, his name was Ronald McNutt, and he was a Iraq, he served in Iraq. And one night he was live streaming, and he got really drunk and he became aggressive. And he got a call from his girlfriend, and they were fighting. And I guess his gun went off. and then after the call, he hung up aggressively. And then he grabbed a shotgun, put it right into his mouth, and pulled the trigger. And, I mean, it was one of the most graphic shock videos on the Internet.
Starting point is 03:42:42 And, I mean, let me show you, someone managed on Roblox to upload this entire video, frame by frame, and expose it to little kids. I mean... Here, I'll actually... I'll move this over here so you can see this. I'm just warning, this is, you know, someone blowing their heads off
Starting point is 03:43:05 with a shotgun. This is a live video? This is a video on Roblox. You'll see. It has the audio and everything. You'll see. Oh my gosh, dude. And he's walking around showing that to little kids
Starting point is 03:43:23 in an LGBT game on Roblox. I mean, that's the sort of stuff I get. Holy shit. That's the stuff I get on a daily basis. That's the emails I'm getting from kids saying I'm being exposed to this, that. Could you imagine you're a 10-year-old kid? You play Roblox. Someone walks up to you with a video of someone putting a shotgun down their mouth and pulling the trigger.
Starting point is 03:43:51 How traumatizing that must be. must be. That's unbelievable. That's insane. And this company is saying there's no video sharing or image sharing. But what I just showed you was video sharing and image sharing. I can't even put that up. You can't even show that. Yeah. I mean that's that was literally a video of someone committing suicide. That's what I'm talking about, Slep. You've got to fucking take care of yourself, man. And I know it seems like this shit isn't piling up i fucking get it look man yeah spent a lot of time at war spent a lot of time doing this shit spent a lot of time diving into a lot of evil man take like just fucking do a mental check in go talk
Starting point is 03:44:38 to a pro find a one find one find one now while you're good yeah because when shit goes bad and it will fucking catch up with you you want to be scrounging around trying to find the right doc yeah i'm being serious, man. Yeah, I mean, that's... No. Yeah. I got... What would you... This is probably one of the last questions. What would you like to see happen with Roblox? Is there a way that they could fix this?
Starting point is 03:45:09 I think, personally, this is what I think should happen. I think the CEO of this company needs to resign. I think David Bazuki has shown his priorities as CEO, that he values dating, he values gambling, these horribly addictive things, these things that are hurting children, he values that above safety and moderation. You know, they've spent a lot of, they've defunded their moderation. There was a very infamous interview he gave where he just started becoming erratic. And the question that made him erratic was,
Starting point is 03:45:51 why is Roblox spending less year over, you're on moderation? You know, that should be their priority. Moderation, keeping kids safe. Do what you're advertising. Do what you're telling parents. And there's clearly some mental decision between him and people at the company that they just, they don't value that. I think the executives that were involved in some of these decision making,
Starting point is 03:46:17 I think, you know, people like Matt Kaufman who've seen these things firsthand and think that there needs to be a decision matrix in why they should remove a game that's totally infiltrated by pedophiles, I think that these people don't know what they're doing. I think that these people are just professionally lying to people. And I don't think that they should be executives. I see a good roadblocks when these people are out of the company. That's and I hope so And at the end of the day My goal isn't even to take down this company I
Starting point is 03:46:53 You know it's a resource that kids love Kids play they see a lot of I enjoyed it as a kid You know I absolutely loved it But it was just Playing games on the platform casually And just seeing maps In games, you know
Starting point is 03:47:09 Minor attracted people And you know Just 7, 6, 4 Like it's just horrible Like So, yeah, I mean, I just, I really think that there needs to be a leadership change at this company, someone who actually values. It definitely sounds like it. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:47:25 We've got a lot of work to do. Absolutely. Schlep, I don't even know if this poor, I'm going to, this is me to you. We might cut it out of the interview because nobody knows about that. Literally nobody knows about this. But I'm starting a cybersecurity tech company. It's going to launch next month for friends and family do the beta testing.
Starting point is 03:47:49 It's basically an entire security suite that's going to go on your phone that has all American VPNs because a lot of the VPNs are Israeli or Chinese or everybody's fucking spying on us. So these are all American VPNs, keeps the data getting, whatever. This is about to launch. It's called Glacier. And through doing this show, I've met a lot of, really good people like you, like Ryan, like my business partners at Glacier.
Starting point is 03:48:21 They're some of the best fucking engineers in the world. And we built this cybersecurity app. My next venture, because this is what I'm most passionate about, is building something to protect kids. Ryan Montgomery is likely going to be a part of it. My business partners over at Glacier are going to be a part of it. I'm kind of putting everybody together. And if this actually goes through, I'd love, I don't know what it looks like. I have no idea, but I'd love to bring you in or have you be a part of this somehow.
Starting point is 03:48:55 It would be a total honor. Like, you know, I'm really good friends with Ryan Montgomery. So I absolutely, whatever you guys need, whatever help, you're more than willing to help with you guys. Right on, man. Thank you. I very much appreciate that. No, thank you. And, you know, one of my goals this year, personal goals, is to not just expose and bitch and complain about things, but actually come up with real fucking solutions.
Starting point is 03:49:22 And that's a big thing that I want to accomplish this year is come up with a solution for parents, you know, that educates them that protects their kids. That's going to protect a lot of kids. And that's amazing. So, fuck, man. You're a good person. I appreciate it, man. good person, dude. And I got one last gift for it.
Starting point is 03:49:44 I forgot. I usually give this at the beginning, but, but, um, it's just, with subjects like these, there's never a good time to give something like this, but these are,
Starting point is 03:49:55 uh, Blue Johnson League gummy Bears. If you've seen any of the shows, you know what those are. Heck yeah. So made in the USA. Appreciate it. You're welcome.
Starting point is 03:50:03 And then I did forget one, one other thing. So I guess there is one more question. I got a Patreon account. Oh, yeah. All right. they're the reason I get to sit here with you today and so I give them the opportunity to ask every single guest a question this is from teddy how do you take on the responsibility of being one of the main figures in the fight against roblox lackadaisical efforts to rid their app of child predators this is actually from his 14 year old son really yeah I appreciate him being in the know about everything that's going on it was all the kids. I mean, there's a lot of kids who see my video. I mean, I really try to put it as like an educational thing and teach about stuff like, you know, love bombing and different strategies these predators use so kids are aware of these sort of things. So shout out to that, to 14-year-old son. But I, it's a lot. It's definitely a very scary position to be in, but I'm, you know, I'm not afraid.
Starting point is 03:51:09 You know, I'm wanting to, I'm going to keep powering through it. And I hope by the end of this, there's actual change. And just to know my efforts have already helped some people is all I need to continue. You know, that's really what it is for me. In fighting for these victims, that's what it is all about. Justice for these victims, that Roblox is trying to silence. I mean, that's really what it is. They're trying to conceal their trying to.
Starting point is 03:51:39 trying to make it all go away and pretend that, you know, put both hands in their ears, I can't hear anything. You know, we are going to be loud. We are going to continue to fight for these victims. They deserve justice. Absolutely deserve it. This is what they all do, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:52:00 There's nothing new under the sun. For sure. This is what they all do. But once again, man, it was an honor to meet you, honor to interview you, and, um, I got a feeling we're going to become good friends. Appreciate it, man. Thank you for what you're doing. Of course.
Starting point is 03:52:15 Stay on top of that mental health. Thank you. Thank you. God bless. All right. How do you feel? Good. Feel good?
Starting point is 03:52:25 That was a great interview, man. Fuck it up. It was a good interview. Oh, man. That's all you, man. Yeah. I wonder what Roblox is going to be saying when they see that video of you playing. That's the thing.
Starting point is 03:52:37 They always give out these PR responses, but then there was a guy telling you to get freaky, you know, and you were playing mass shooting games. Good luck defending that. Yeah, absolutely. Two guys. Yeah. Oh, yeah, back to back.
Starting point is 03:52:55 Yeah. I mean, if you played that for an hour, we caught. And do you just think if I would have done the name? I should have thought about that. I should have done what Ryan did when we did this, and done like Julie 15. Yeah. Yeah, it didn't even come across my mind.
Starting point is 03:53:11 Honestly, it's probably a good thing because Roblox should try to say something. I mean, they are looking for anything under the sun that they could possibly go at me about. Well, it's going to be a hard one to defend, buddy. Yeah. When discovery happens and all that, I mean, they have a lot of explaining to do. I'm glad Florida is now making this a criminal thing because it should be. I think these executives allowed it to happen. 100% should be.
Starting point is 03:53:44 This is definitely a very heavy. I didn't expect it to be like, very liberating too, you know? Good. That's when all this first starting coming out, like that was the most liberating feeling ever to have all these people finally see what I've been seeing for so long. Have you ever gone this in depth? No, I have not gone this in depth in an interview.
Starting point is 03:54:11 Yeah. How's it feel to get that fucker's name out there? Oh, man. He's been tweeting like, why won't he name the person who did it? Like, stuff like that. Oh, yeah, yeah, he's been saying that. He's on Twitter? Like on secret accounts.
Starting point is 03:54:26 He's using, like, secret, yeah. But I know it's him. He's the one doing it. Well, yeah. Surprise fuck bag. Yep. The name's out now, and you ain't fucking hiding anywhere. Oh, so good.
Starting point is 03:54:39 That shit is going to be every fucking worm. Yep. I'm glad. I mean, that guy was a total monster. I hope when Roblox responds to it, they actually respond, yeah, this guy was a predator on her site, and we banned him. And I'm sure it was too late, but, I mean, they did ban him. I mean, it'd be nice to see them take some accountability somewhere, but that'll never have. Yeah, yeah. Man, good stuff, dude. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Likewise. I got kids. Huh? I've got kids. Yeah. All right. Let's head out.
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