Shawn Ryan Show - #310 Josh Duhamel - Transformers Star Reveals His 26-Acre Off-Grid Survival Compound

Episode Date: June 4, 2026

Josh Duhamel is an American actor, producer, and entrepreneur born and raised in Minot, North Dakota, where a blue-collar upbringing instilled a strong work ethic. He played backup quarterback at Minot State University and majored in biology with plans for dentistry, but dropped out shy of graduation (later finishing in 2005). He headed west, fell into modeling, and won IMTA Male Model of the Year in 1997, exposure that led to the role of Leo du Pres on *All My Children* (1999–2002) and a 2002 Daytime Emmy. From there he built a mainstream career across TV and film, including *Las Vegas* and the *Transformers* franchise. He had no Hollywood connections, just a small-town guy who caught a break and worked his way up. Still active in film and TV, Duhamel has deliberately stepped back from constant Hollywood life, spending more time on his land in North Dakota and speaking openly about never fully fitting in: "I missed the simplicity of who I really am." Beyond acting, he founded GATLAN, a concierge health-optimization company built around his own experience with hormone therapy, which expanded into women's health in spring 2026. Raised Catholic, he favors a grounded lifestyle focused on health and aging well, and embraced entrepreneurship later in life. He's a father of three: sons Axl (with ex-wife Fergie) and Shepherd, and daughter Rocca, born May 2026 with wife Audra Mari, with family at the center of how he spends his time. Shawn Ryan Show Sponsors: For a limited time, our listeners get 50% off for life AND 3 Free Gifts when you use SRS at https://Mengotomars.com Upgrade your wallet today and get up to 40% off during Ridge’s Father’s Day Sale at https://www.Ridge.com/SRS #Ridgepod Ready to upgrade your eyewear? Check them out at https://roka.com and use code SRS for 20% off sitewide. SpotOn GPS Fence — trusted by Shawn Ryan for his dog Moose. The most reliable GPS dog fence: 100% secure from backyard to backcountry with virtual boundaries you control from your phone. No wires, no digging. Sets up in minutes, any size, any shape, anywhere. Learn more: https://spotonfence.com/srs Find your forever cookware @hexclad and get 10% off at https://hexclad.com/SRS! #hexcladpartner Josh Duhamel Links: IG - https://www.instagram.com/joshduhamel WEB - https://www.instagram.com/gatlan.health Tik Tok - https://www.tiktok.com/@privatejoshduhamell X - https://x.com/joshduhamel Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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in a way better than that, that gun range. I'm definitely going to start. deal that idea. Maybe if we have some extra time, we can go out there and break it in. So, but let me give you an introduction here real quick. Josh Dumell, an acclaimed actor, director, and producer known for your roles in Transformers, Safe Haven, Las Vegas, and Netflix, Ransom Canyon. You got your start on all my children earning a daytime Emmy early in your career. You're a North Dakota native who stayed closely tied to your roots, spending more time there as you've stepped away from the Hollywood lifestyle.

You've stepped into business as the founder of Gatlin focused on men's health and performance. And I saw women's health too. In men's and women's, yeah. Most importantly, you're a Christian, a father, and a husband. Welcome to the show. So a couple things that crank out here before we get going. One, everybody gets a gift. Well, John's Lee, gummy bears.

Oh, nice. Probably don't go well with longevity and men's health, but... Are these, like, funny gummy bears? No, man, it's just candy. Greater gummy bears, okay, good. Made in Michigan. Nice to know. Thank you for that.

I got you something, too. Do you want me to give it to you now? Sure. I think you're going to like this. So, I might as well to start with the gifts, right? So this is a knife made by my friend, Cody Adolfson. Little Wolf Ironworks. out of

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it's got a little reading for the Bible iron sharpens iron and one man sharpens another proverbs thank you yes sir pretty cool

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he's just It's an excuse to get myself a knife, really. This is awesome. Thank you. Yeah, you're welcome. Appreciate it. And then one other thing, we got a Patreon account. It's a subscription account. They're the reason I get to sit with you here today,

so they get the opportunity to ask every single guest a question. Okay. Josh, you've lived in two different Americas, Hollywood and North Dakota. Yep. What is one lie in each world believes about what it takes to make a man strong and what did real life teach you instead? Oh my gosh. What is one lie that each of those two worlds,

Hollywood and North Dakota? Yeah. Hmm, let me start with North Dakota. I think that one of the things that I think my wife and I just talked about this yesterday because we have a little baby girl in the way. I saw that. She wrote in her book to her, she said, stand tall.

Don't be afraid to stand tall and be exactly who you are. And I think that one thing that, that I had to overcome by coming from North Dakota because it's a very humble state, the people there are very sort of salt to the earth. Nobody wants to stand out. It's just kind of like a very blue collar, but commonsensical place that, you know, for me, leaving there

and trying to go off to Hollywood and do things, it was a scary thing for me because I didn't feel like I deserved it. And I think that's one of the lies that I learned from North Dakota was that you do belong. You do belong wherever you dream to go. And I think that's one of the things that I learned from that. One of the things that held me back for a long time, really. Wow.

As far as one of the lives that I learned from Hollywood, I would say that you don't necessarily have to play the game by the rules. As long as you show up to your job and are, dependable and reliable to the people who are making whatever project you're part of, you can believe what you want. You don't have to believe what they tell you to believe. Right on, man. Good stuff. Good stuff. So I read that you are kind of putting your acting career, Hollywood career on the backburner to concentrate on family, get back to your roots, and slow down. I wouldn't say I'm putting it on the back burner.

I'm doing, you know, I'm actually working more now than I have in my life, which is right. Right on. Honestly, it's like I'm very grateful for that because this is a hard business to get into and to stay relevant in. And, you know, I've been doing it enough for 26 years. So I would say that, you know, because I am busier now than ever, it's also made me realize that I don't want to work this much. I'd rather be home with my wife and my kids and out on my house. you know, compound. Yeah.

Doing that stuff. So I'm just trying to be smarter, I think. I think I'm trying to not to take as many jobs. Just trying to, you know, work a little bit smarter. And really working on this company, Gatlin is something that I'm as excited about as anything. I would rather honestly be working on that than anything else. Really? I mean, I think this is an interesting conversation because I think about this all the time.

You know, we were kind of just talking outside. I got two toddlers now. Time is going... Six and four? Four and two. Four and two. Four and two. Little.

And time is just going by so damn fast, you know, and... You look at old photos and you're like, holy shit, man. Yeah. It moves quick. Yeah. And you realize you're aging just as fast. Oh, yeah. But you don't see that.

That's the truth. I got a 12-year-old. And to see how quickly he went from 2 to 12 is like, you know, it just goes by. like that. And so, you know, the idea that I get to do it again with my little two-year-old and then this little girl that's on the way, I think it makes you really appreciate it that much more. So you've got a four and a two-year-old. You'll see, dude. It just flies by, you know. So one thing I think I've learned, especially from Axel, my 12-year-old, is that I got to stay as present and there with them as much as I can because you don't get those days back.

Yeah. So, I mean, how are you going to do it? Because I think about, like I said, I think about this all the time. Ever since my son was about two. Because I had, you know, the first two years, I'm like, ah, they only wasn't mom. It's just diapers and boobs and milk, you know. So there's not much for dad. So I was, I was, I was thought I will bury my head and my work. until I realize that I'm needed or wanted. Or start showing interest. Maybe that's what I should say instead. And around two years old is when that started happening. Oh, yeah. And so I've been, ever since two, I've been kind of trying to structure my business

so that I can step away and but continue, but, you know, spend a lot more time at home. But it's hard. It is hard. It is hard to remain present at home with all this shit. Because you're probably similar to me or I'm similar to you in some ways that we're, I mean, I was born to like put my head down and work. It's all I've ever known is just to like grind my way to whatever I'm trying to get to. But do you mostly live here?

Do you travel a lot? I travel, I mean, I travel a decent amount, but I don't, it's in and out. It's quick trips to D.C. or if I'm interviewing somebody overseas or something like that. but I also have decided to work smarter. So I turn a lot of shit down because it's just not worth my time to be away from my life. Consider that a blessing, though, the fact that you get to stay, you're mostly here. Yeah. See, for me, it's like nothing shoots in LA anymore.

So I have to go, you know, then going to BC, British Columbia to work for a month and then I go to Malaysia for six weeks. And then I come back and then I go to Winnipeg for another thing. So it's like that to me is what I'd need to like. like, I need to like do much less of that because these kids, I, even if, even if they come and visit, it's still, I'm on, I'm on set all day and I come home at night and I try to get them up in the morning and put them bed at night, but it's not enough. You know, they need me more than that. And so to be traveling so much is really what kills me, you know, because I, I'm gone for a week

and I come back and I can see my two-year-old is like grown up, you know, just in that week. Yeah, for, you know, and, you know, I'm missing a lot of that stuff and I don't want to do that. So I just got to be smarter about how I do it. So I've got to make a living and still got to, you know, maintain a lifestyle that has become pretty expensive. But, you know, I don't need to do that. I don't need to work as much as I have been, which is what I'm really focusing on to. It's just being smarter about it. Yeah.

You know, I read something else that said, I think you were, did you live out of your car for a while? No. No, my dad did. Your dad did? My dad did for a short while after they got divorced. He hates when I tell this story, but it's amazing because my dad is one of my favorite people in the world. He's an incredible dude. And had a really rough time coming out of, you know, the divorce, you know, we're like,

why does dad have all this clothes like on a rack in the back of his car? We found out that he was, like, living in there for a couple of months. So, yeah, but I never had to do that, thank God. We did bounce around a lot as a kid. You know, we, we, after the divorce, it was a rough several, rough couple of years, really, after they got, I think it was in 84 they got divorced.

I think that's right. And, you know, we'd bounce from house to friend's house. And it was just, it was, for us, we didn't really know much different, but there was a point and I said, why do we keep moving around? What are we doing? And then we ended up getting this little box of a house

in Northeast Mine at North Dakota. And that was kind of when we started to settle in. But it was a rough couple of, rough couple of years there. So where I'm kind of going with this is, I mean, obviously your financial situation has drastically changed since those days. And I'm kind of, you know, I've built a pretty decent business here and I didn't come from money. I'm not used to any of this.

And, you know, and, like, leaving this. SEAL teams leaving contracting for the CIA, you know, I was broke. And I built a really awesome business here and now I'm not broke. But looking back, times were a hell of a lot simpler. But yeah. So what I want to ask you is did did the money, did the new financial situation, I mean, did that make your life more simple? Did such a good question, Sean? Uh, did it make more simple. No, I don't think it makes it more simple. What I do think it does, it buys you a little freedom and buys you the ability to, they say money doesn't bring happiness, but it sure does bring freedom to do some things that you want to. You know, you get to kind

of shape a world around you a little bit more. You're not really at the mercy of anything. If you're, if you can, if you're lucky enough to afford it, but I don't think it necessarily makes you any happier. You know, for me, it probably makes things a little bit more complex, you know, because with money and power and all these things, you know, there's like Spider-Man, you know, it becomes great responsibility. And you can probably feel that just by what you've grown. A lot of people are dependent on you now to answer whatever questions they have throughout the day or how to what's the next move and, you know, sort of falls on you. But I pose this question to you is how do you impart what you learn? learned and you've been through it, dude, you've gone, you know, all the way through the seal teams and the contracting and all the things that you built here because of something

inside of you that had this drive to go build it, achieve it. How do you impart that on your kids? Because that's one thing that I am, you know, you can't manufacture, you know, hardship, you know? Yeah. I don't know, man. I think about this all the time and, um, I think. my son and my daughter are wildly different.

I mean, it's kind of interesting. You know, the second one comes out, and you're like, I've been through this shit before. It's just to be fucking easy. Then they come, and it's like, this isn't the same person at all. Oh, that's the true. But my daughter is stubborn. She is going to be a fucking badass.

She just will not stop. She's the younger one? What was the younger one? She's like me. My son is like very loving, caring. Yeah. Always watching out for a sister. I don't know what his drive is yet, but anyways, where I'm going, I think about like, man,

I, same thing, like I have all these things that I've learned, you know, throughout life. And how do I inject that into my kids, you know, this major life lessons? I don't know, man. I think one thing I do is I'll create, not create scenarios, but I always make him figure it out. So this kind of started about a year ago. And my wife is a little more pampering than a lot more pampering than I am. So if he can't figure something out, he'll ask me, you know, to help him. And I will help him, but I will say, now you need to figure another.

way out of this. There's always another way. So what he was, he was trying to climb up this hill out of our creek. He loves playing in the creek and couldn't get up the damn hill. And he's like, help me day, wants me to push him up. And I'm like, I'm not going to push you up. I'm like, you have to find another way. No matter what problem you're going to face in life, there's always an angle that you can take to accomplish what you want. And so you need to start looking around, you know, and I'll point like, hey, look, the hill isn't his state. steep over there. Maybe you should walk over there. You know, and so that was the first time that kind of clicked in my head.

And so that's with my son, that's what I do now is I've forced him to find other avenues to get what it was. What about you? That's great. That's great that you have this place to do that. That's one of the reasons I love my place out in the woods so much is they got to figure things out. You know, like I had to figure, I didn't know how to do anything when I got out there.

You know, I don't know to fix anything. I would, I'd never owned a boat before, you know, all the things that go into owning land. I mean, you're just constantly working. So I'm at the point now. My son is 12 and I'm still, that stuff doesn't stop. Now it's like, okay, dude, you're going to be looking after this place someday. You need to start watching how you want to go, you want me to pull you on the, on the tube, go get it hooked up and ready to go. And then when you're done, you've got to properly roll it up and put, you know, little things like that to start instilling some ownership and some responsibility and accountability for it, I think is, I do the same thing.

I probably could have done a better job of it with my 12-year-old. He's like your older one, super sweet kid, very thoughtful, very compassionate kid. But doesn't have that, by a little two-year-old is a little badass. That one I got to watch out for. Very strong-willed, very much, very much, very physical, much more physical than actually, but they're just different kids, both amazing, but just different. So, you know, that's a, you know, just to be able to start imparting whatever, whatever I know, whatever I've learned onto them, just start giving them responsibility to let them start figuring

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And art wasn't very well off at all. He owned a little shack on this road. Now it's all been demolished. And they built nicer, bigger buildings there. But this guy was one of the last holdouts. He didn't want to sell this little place. And I remember going over to his house next door to my dad's used car shop. And I said, he's poor, isn't he, dad?

He goes, he's not poor. He's rich because he's happy. What do he say? He's rich. He's rich because, uh, something about that he's happy, that he lives, he lives a happy life, you know, so it wasn't, he wasn't, you know, placing this guy's value or what I thought was value on what, you know, whether or not he made money.

And this is me as a little kid not knowing shit. Teach me that these guys, it doesn't matter how much money you have as long as you're living, you know, a full and happy life. And this guy did. And I think that, you know, for me, it's like, I guess my point in telling you this is that I know my kids are watching me very closely and how I treat people, how I handle my own business. So the only advice I could give

because I'm the last person to tell you about to raise a kid, I'm still figuring it out myself. But they're watching you closely and the example you said is the way they'll go forward. Damn, that's weird. I was just going to bring that up and I lost it. And so I asked this question, I was going to say when we were talking about

the knowledge transfer to your kids and at least really, I mean, I think the best, you just said it, I think the best thing you can do is just be the example that you want your kids to turn into. You know, and it sounds like your old man did that to you. You're back in the Midwest. And, I mean, I just, they are always watching. And, you know, I had an incident the other day that I'm not proud of and we were at the airport.

And it was taking, we were going on a little vacation and, yeah, we were at the day check-in counter. Oh, God. We've got the bags and there was some mishap. It wasn't our fault. And I was like, you are going to, you are going to make us miss our vacation and a very heated way. Yeah.

And then my son looked at me and said the exact same thing to the woman behind the counter. I did a face. Oh. Like, fuck. Yeah. I was like, that wasn't, that wasn't good, John. Yeah. Well, I mean, listen, give yourself a little grace, but it's true.

I have a story of some of that. Last year I was taking my son to school, and we take the shortcut because we, you know, we live in, he goes to school about 40 minutes. We have to drive in the heavy traffic to get there. And it's just, it's always just a slog. So I take the shortcut where you got to kind of jump in. And there's just a lot, you know, it's a standstill, basically. So I was trying to get in. And this lady wouldn't let me in.

And I was like, and she just like literally cut me off. I was like, what the fuck? I'm like, what are you doing? And now I was going to hear Dad, I was like, oh, shit. I forgot my kid was in the back seat. He couldn't believe it. You know, the poor kid is mortified. I'm like, yeah, there's a good example of, you know, your kids are watching.

Do I want him to behave like that? No. So, you know, I guess it keeps me in check, too. Yeah, yeah. So how did you, did you grow up in the woods? So I grew up outside of town in mine at North Dakota in this little area called Robin Wood. about five miles out of town. And yeah, we were out in the country.

And I'd spent all day, especially in the summer, just out in the woods, catching frogs, catching turtles, salamanders, fishing, riding our bikes, wherever we could go. And that was kind of, and then my parents got divorced. We had had to move into town. And that's when, you know, that was sort of like the next phase. in my life, but my early days from time I was probably a baby all the way up through fourth grade, I was out in the country. So I think the part of the reason why I have this place now is me sort of reliving that, you know, the little Huck Finn story that I lived as a kid. You know,

I just love being out there. It really brings me back to being a kid and for me to now, you know, see my kids experience this and watch them sort of get to do the same things I did. growing up was part of the reason I did it, honestly. Really? Is that why you asked? I asked because, you know, I was just curious if you move, if you moved back there for familiarity, you know, and did you wanted your family to experience what you had, or if you were strictly there for the zombie apocalypse?

No, it was, in the beginning, it was, I guess I bought this place 16, 17 years ago, and in the beginning, it was, uh, it was, uh, it was, uh, you know, it was, uh, in the beginning, It was just because I just wanted to get away. I just wanted something really remote, really private. I was, you know, not trying to escape Hollywood. I just wanted something different that I could get away to if I needed to. And then it became something as the world got a little bit scarier. I was like, you know what?

It's really glad I bought this thing. In fact, I'm going to buy the property next door or two. So then I had 55 acres out there and I was like these two little cabins. and I really started thinking more about like, okay, how could I live out here so that if shit hits the fan, I can just live out here without, you know, completely unplugged. So then I started taking steps to do that, which was, you know, solar, which I never use. We ended up bringing electricity in, but everything runs off of propane, you know, and, you know, if we could fish, I could hunt, I could, I could literally, we got three wells out there, so I got plenty of water.

and have food if I need it. And then, you know, all the other stuff you need. Dude, I love prepping. So I want to hang out on this topic as long as possible. I can talk about it all day. All right. Okay. Where did you start?

So you start, you got a small hunk cabin out in the middle of the woods, right? Right. So, so I bought, so, okay, so I bought 12 acres, half a parcel, nothing on it from this old guy named uh um cody uh Craig Cody kottete and uh then he passed away shortly after that and then he had a little hunting shack in the woods on the on parcel the half parcel next to where I where I just bought no electricity in the water outhouse you know he had these little copper wires running through there he would turn on these these little lanterns these little oil lanterns that's how he lived out there um so I had that

Then I had a little structure for the first time. So I had 26 acres and a little cabin that I never said, because it was just so rat and there's mouse infested. I was like, it's too much. I'd leave there with the sore throat every time I'd spend the night. I was like, I'm going to clean this place up before I decide to like really start late staying out here. So we'd go out, we'd camp a couple days and then we'd just start fixing it up.

And then the other property next door, that went up for sale, another 26 acres with another little cabin that had electricity but no water. So we dug another well. So I had a well and I brought electricity up to the top one. Then I have this little one on the water with electricity, but built a well there. So now I have these two little cabins, but they're both little. Now they're, we've redone them now and they're nice little guest cabins, but I still didn't have.

And so during COVID, we spent all of our time out there. I mean, we, and we had to wash dishes in the lake, shower in the lake. It was like, it was like homes. Oh shit, you were legitimately rough. like homesteading for the first 10 years. I loved it. That's awesome. Because I was constantly pickaxes and it was shovels and it was clearing little spaces.

I remember I found this little area down by the water that was all sand, but he had all these dead logs and all the kind of overgrown. I know and I just knew that if I could clear this off, we'd have like this beautiful little beach. And sure enough, that became Axel Beach. My oldest son, I named it after him. And that's where the kids just run wild now. It's all cleared up and it's beautiful now. but it was, you know, a lot of just... And then I got a tractor and I got a skid steer.

And then it got to go, you know, we started moving. Because then you can pop stumps and rocks and clear things much quicker. But for the first 10 years, it was... It was literally like homesteading. And I loved it. Because I'd leave... I'd leave L.A., I'd go out there and I'd spend two weeks and just work on whatever my little project was. And over the years now, it's become like a really cool little spot that we just,

you know, my family loves it. My parents, my sisters, my wife's family, they all come out. We just like make the most memories out there. It's amazing. That's awesome, man. What, uh, I mean, what are you worried about when it comes, what got you into the prepping? What was the, what was the last straw? I think it's, uh, you know, my, I've always had this, I don't know, recurring, Not nightmare. It's more of like a daymare about, I read this book by Wesley Rawls called Patriots, a guide to surviving the coming collapse. And it was based on the 2008 market crash. And things almost got sideways in Los Angeles and all over the country. If you remember, the banks and everything were freezing. and it was like a whole thing,

but then the government bailed them out and they sort of eased everybody's stress. This book plays it out as if it just kept going. And there are these certain cells around the country that had a plan that if things went sideways, we get on our walkies and we all sort of send a message and we all go to our spot and it was in Idaho. And it was like this camp where they would have,

it was like a little mini militia almost where everybody, you know, Everybody had a certain skill sets. Some were medical, some were weaponry, some more construction, some were farming, communications. They all had, they all contributed. And if you didn't contribute, you're out. So it was like this little mini sort of militia of people that came with a certain set of skills that helped sort of fend off anybody that came.

So that was kind of the beginning. Everyone was like, I need to build something that if things do go sideways, I got to have a plan to get to Los Angeles. and I got to have a plan to get from Los Angeles to here. And once I'm here, we'll be able to figure it out because I'll have what I need. So that was kind of the beginning of it. And now it's your plan to get out of L.A. I got a motorcycle. Now I got kids.

I don't know what I would do. I still got a figure. I got a little dirt bike. But now I got a wife and I got three kids. So the plan is shifting. It's in development still. But, you know, I had a whole thing where, okay, if I have to. to, I'll get a boat in the marina, I'll take that up the coast and I'll have a truck in a parking

garage and I go crazy with this stuff. Damn, dude. Because, you know, when things lock down in Los Angeles and anything will set that off, I mean, those freeways lock up and there's no getting out. Yeah. So I need a way to like to get out of there, like through the hills, down to the water, up and then get out. See, if I was a little bit tougher, Sean, I could have been a Navy SEAL, but I just not

made of the same stuff you are. I have the same mindset, just not the same toughness. But that was kind of, I mean, I really go deep with it. I really think about, okay, how do we do that? How do we get out of here? You know, and that was the biggest, and it still is one of the biggest things.

If we're there and we get stuck, how do we get out? Have you looked at dual citizenship? What do you mean? Are you that far down the rabbit hole yet? What do you mean, like Canada? Canada. A lot of, I mean, the top five places, I think, are Ireland.

If you have Irish roots, you can get it immediately. Portugal, but you've got to learn Portuguese. Italy was on there. Canada was on there. What else was on there? Paraguay was on there. Really? Yeah.

Which was always, I've always said, if I got to get the hell out of Dodge, I'm going to Paraguay. Why? It's too far south for the cartels to be running drugs up. There's no ocean, which means nobody's, wants to vacation there.

There's nothing there but farming and fucking cows. Really? Yep. And nobody knows about it. Yeah. So that was always my spot. So when I, when I was,

taking any measures to do that or not? Not yet. I'm like in process. But do you think you'd have to leave the country to do this? I don't know. It's just a piece of mind. I'm not, I'm not like in a,

I'm not going to abandon the fucking country anyways. I mean, I'm going to fight for it. But if, you know, but other people have to fight for it too. And if nobody's fighting for it. it, then one guy fighting for it isn't going to do a damn thing.

I think there are plenty of people that would fight for it, though. You think so? God, yeah. I don't know, man. Sometimes I think it's all talk. I don't know. Which is why I'm looking at dual citizenship. I haven't gone that far down the rabbit hole, but, you know, so what are your fears about?

I mean, I know we sound like crazy, you know, tinfoil hat wearing. What do I? But I mean. I mean, I think AI robots could be a real thing. You think AI robots could be a real thing. I mean, this AI thing is moving so quickly that I don't know if we can ever, if we got to get our, we got to wrap our arms around this thing or it's going to. Well, it's interesting that all the people building AI are also building bunkers like Mark Zuckerberg that put a huge fucking bunker in Hawaii.

They know a lot more about it than we. I know. I know. It's like, foof. So speaking of AI, are you familiar with Claude? Yes. Okay. So before you came on, we had Claude, Anthropics A-I scraped the entire internet on you and come up with the most viral question that would land with the audience.

Okay, wow. That's cool. You spent a decade in Transformers. Films were the entire premise is robots coming to kill humans. Then last month, you told Fox News, you're now 72% ready for the apocalypse at your off-grid cabin. And you said, end quote, I'm less of... afraid of zombies and more afraid of AI robots now. I don't know if we're ever going to fully be able to protect ourselves from what's coming. Meanwhile, you spent 15 years quietly building a 26

acre compound 40 miles from the nearest store. So here's the question. Okay. Take us inside the compound. If somebody, if someone watching right now wanted to start building their own version of what you've got, what's the gear, gadgets, survival kit, and guns you'd let them buy you'd tell them to buy first. Well, first thing you need is water. Electricity and water. You need a pump to pull the water out of the well. So you need some sort of electricity, whether it's solar or something,

you know, whether it's gas power or whatever. You need something to pull. You need water. That was the first thing I did. I have guns. Hopefully I never need them for anything other than hunting. What kind of guns? What would you recommend somebody to get?

I got, uh, some nines. I've got shotguns. I've got rifles. Things that are all legal and registered. And, you know, anybody watching, please know that. Oh, it's all on the up and up. But I do, but that's one thing, you know, protection. We learn how to fish, learn how to hunt. And have shelter. I mean, for me, I built the shelters that I needed. but it's not going to, you know, it's not like it's a fortified, you know, military type anything. I'm actually really looking at. I have this old container, this old shipping container that we bought during COVID that right now

just acts as a shed for all my supplies where there's plumbing or extra wood or just tools, things that sort of overflow that go in there. Eventually, I want to bury that. put a, you know, under a concrete, a thick concrete sort of, you know, a shed above that. So you walk inside the shed, you go down in this thing. Then you have this whole, this whole bunker that I don't, I mean, listen, man, if they're coming, they're coming,

I'm not sure if anything's going to stop it. I just hope that we wrap our arms around this thing and have some sort of guard rails so that they don't just, because the way, it's moving at a pace so fast right now that we can't even grasp it. I know. I mean, I was at this event in Cannes last year called Canline. It's a big branded marketing convention. All the biggest brands go and they talk the latest and greatest.

And all they talked about was this AI and how a year from the day it was, which is probably six months ago now, a year from that day, it's going to be 60 times more powerful than it was one year earlier. 60 times. So you can imagine you take that 60 times and then it just keeps growing exponentially. And I don't, I mean, I can't wrap my head around that. I don't know if anybody can. So I just hope that we, you know, smart minds sort of come together and say,

okay, hold on. Let's just slow this thing down a little bit, if we even can at this one. I don't know. I don't think it's worth of likely. I did. I got you one other gift, though. So before we get too far from the guns, I got a buddy at Sig Sauer. Oh, God.

And I told him you were coming on. He's a huge Transformers fan. This is clear and safe, by the way. So that's the SIGSauer 365 macro with a SIGSauer suppressor and SIG's new optic line. Hold 17 rounds plus one in the pipe. Wait, you're giving me this? Yeah. You probably have to take that to the cabin, though.

I don't think that's going to fly in L.A. This is the coolest gift ever. Thank you. Yeah, we'll break it in here after this if we've got time. That is amazing. Thank you so much. What is it a nine? Yeah, it's a nine millimeter.

Thank you. You're welcome. Truly, thank you so much. My pleasure, man. How do I get this back to Los Angeles? We'll talk offline about it. How do I get this back to Fargo? Yeah.

I'll register it in Fargo. Yeah, so... That's amazing, thanks. You're welcome. You're welcome. Look good out there in the cabin. Yeah. But I would love to go through their shit with it.

One thing, you mind if I critique you a little bit? Yeah. All right. One thing. So you're learning. Yeah. You're learning how to do all this. Yep.

You need books. Not fucking downloaded programs, not shit on computers. You need textbooks on how to survive. Okay. There's a really good series. This isn't a plug, but whatever. It's called Back to the Basics. Okay.

And they have like a whole series hard back. And it teaches you everything from fucking gardening to how to build a cabin to how to filter water, how to wash your clothes, how to make soap, how to do all of it. So that way, you know, you don't have to learn it all right now when the shit hits the fan. Because you never know. I mean, what if everything goes down, everything's dark? We don't have, you know, our phones or computers to just, you know, look everything up. Yeah.

So that's the reason. Just have books. Yeah. You know, and then it also, it's just like a piece. It's not a piece. I mean, you're going to use it. but you don't have to stress about knowing at all today because you have a textbooks. Back to the basics.

It teaches you how to raise chickens, how to do everything. Wow, that's cool. Yeah, it's a great series. So that would be something I would invest in. Okay. You know, and because then you can learn as you go, seeds. Okay. You have seeds?

I do. I just bought a bunch of seeds. I just bought a ton of seeds. Good. Because we're building a food plot. That's one of our projects this year. We're doing a big pumpkin patch. Nice.

The deer are probably going to eat most of pumpkins. But we're hoping in the fall we can take the kids up and just do a big pumpkin patch thing. And then I'm building and I cleaned up the whole perimeter of this, we live on this peninsula and I'm cleaned up all the wood, all the old logs and stuff. And I'm going to plant a million wildflowers. Not that those seeds are going to do us any good, but you're talking about like what, corn and what else? Anything, corn, green beans, just lots of vegetables, lots of fruit.

Yep. You know, but, and I just, I just store them in a bin, and every time I go to a tractor supply or wherever, I'm just, buy a couple, throw them in there. And where, where do you, you plant them all? No, I just stockpile. Oh, you stockpile it, okay. And is there an expiration on those or no? I don't believe so. Most gear looks good until you actually start using it.

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Nice. The lake itself is all spring fed, so it's one of the clearer lakes in Minnesota, which is awesome. I mean, I'm not going to drink it, but if I had to boil it, I guess we could, right? Do you have a, do you know what a Berkeley water filter is? No. So it's a gravity filter. So you just, and it's like putting a bucket on top of a bucket. And it takes out like 99.9% of everything.

Super. Do you have that here? I don't have it here, but I have one, I have a couple at the house. Okay. And, yeah, so you could take literally just about any water, dump it in there. And when it's done doing its thing, it's... Really? What is that this summer?

And where do you buy that? Oh, you can probably, you can get them on Amazon all over the place. Berkeley water filter, okay. Yeah. Another thing for you in L.A. I think... I'll just, I'll find it. I can text it to you.

Yeah. Another thing for your L.A. home when you're in L.A., is if I'm worried about water, you can get a dehumidifier and a solar inverter, which you can get on Amazon for like 500 bucks. And you just plug in the dehumidifier, and it will just pull water right out of the air. Really? And it's filtered, obviously.

So. And how much water does that make? Enough to drink. Yeah. Have you ever seen one? No, I don't think so. Yeah, you just run the dehumidifier. just pulls the humidity out of the air and then there's a little tank inside the dehumidifier.

I mean, you can, these are like, I don't know, $100 maybe at Home Depot. And yeah, you just poke it up to your solar inverter if you don't have power and it's going to, it's going to pull water fast. Okay. So. And that's called the what again? That's a dehumidifier. Just a dehumidify.

No, there's no, it's not called anything else. Okay. All right. A lot of people put them in their basements. Okay. But. Good to know. Yeah.

What do you do for communications? What do you have for that? Are you planning on communicating? Yes. Well, I bought the, I bought, I got a song on Instagram and they work. They're amazing. They're, um, they're, they're, they're walkies. The satellite pushed atop.

Yes. They do work. They work great. I was looking at it. We just started using them. I just got them working this last time I was out there. Nice. They seem to work great.

And apparently you can, they work, they triangulate with different satellites and you can use them across the country. Is that even real? I've never tried that, but I know that they work really well in our property. Right on, man. How about you? What do you have? Do you use any kind of?

I'm not set up with comms yet. Yeah. So. I'll send you what I have. Right on. It seemed pretty good. What about ammo? I could use more.

We call away, couldn't we all? But I have a fair amount, but, you know. Yeah. I think it's good to, you know. know have enough what kind of guns is yeah i got a 223 nice i got a 21 s gloc 21 s f goc 17 where else shotguns mostly for hunting shotgun bird guns bird guns uh rifles you know for deer hunting i got a crossbow out there you got a 22 i do have a 22 nice yeah That's the best one, man.

She can take thousands of rounds with you in a moment's notice because they're so light. Yeah. But what else do I have? I got this. What is this? This is a six-hour. It's the Cid 365. 365.

I just got this one just recently. Right on, right on. Is the fam into the prepping? She thinks I'm a little bit crazy, but she also appreciates it, you know. Because at first, and this, you know, bless her heart, my wife is amazing, because she grew up living that lake life. Her family is very close to where mine is. So she gets it.

She loves being out there, and we've made it comfortable now. For the longest time, she was with me during COVID and the whole thing, so it was like rough. Like, believe it or not, girls don't like having to go in her to outhouse in the middle of winter of Minnesota, walk outside in their snow boots to go to the bathroom. It doesn't go over well. It's not, it's not like a, you're not going to attract a lot of, women with an outhouse behind your thing.

But she must really love me. But now it's much more comfortable. You know, we built, everything's got a bathroom, we got plumbing. It's like, and it's beautiful. And we've got this beautiful beach that we built. So it's, it's not super posh, but it's comfortable, you know. I don't ever want it to feel too. Luxurious.

Lusurious. I like that it still feels a little bit rugged. And we still got to, you know, work to me. And we're 40 minutes from anything. So we got to come. prepared. Yeah. And so that part of it I love. I mean, every time I'm out there, it becomes similar to what you're talking about with the books, back to the basics. It's like really just, I forget about all the stuff that I'm, when I'm in Los Angeles, it's all about work, achieve,

you know, create, but out there it's about survival. It's about making sure that my family and everybody who's come to visit us has enough water, enough food, enough heat. That's really where my head goes. And it's a really, it's a really, liberating thing to not worry about the things that you do in the real world and just sort of focus on what is actually important. I feel like your mind rejuvenates when you do stuff like that, get out of the loop. How do you stay present with your kids in L.A. when you're in the mix, when you're working? You know, I just show up for everything. If I'm in town, I'm there, I take into school. I

take him to soccer practice, take them basketball, go to all the games, help them with their homework if they need it, you know, teach him, you know, how to shoot a jump shot. He's all into basketball right now. So he always wants to play and he learned. And so I'm always out there, you know, just whatever I can, you know, because I've learned seeing him, like we talked about as a two-year-old and now a 12-year-old, like these moments matter. And if I'm gone for months at a time, I need to make sure that I am with them.

and they know that I'm with them 100% when I'm here. So I don't ever feel. My biggest fear is looking back going, you know, I screwed my kids up because I wasn't around enough. You know, it's one of my biggest fears. I don't want to do that. I want to make sure that they know that I am doing everything I can to, you know, be there for them as a dad.

Does your wife keep you on the level? Oh, yeah. She does? Oh, yeah. Maybe too much so. No, she's great. She truly is the best thing that ever happened. I mean, she's like, she's a North Dakota girl, you know, very level-headed, great mom,

loves my 12-year-old who isn't even her kid. How'd you meet her? She organizes the place. She keeps everything sort of running at the house. I met her in Los Angeles, believe it or not. She was living there. we'd communicated through you know Instagram believe it or not and a friend of ours like

actually got us in contact actual contact because he knew her and he knew that she was from North Dakota she knew that you knew that I was from there and he said you guys should meet and so you know we talked back and forth never any you know real thoughts of a relationship because she's younger than me I didn't want to be that guy well it turns out I am that guy because I met her I brought her to my house I invited her over for this barbecue

And I was like, damn, she's beautiful. She's such a beautiful girl. And then we started dating after that. And from there, I kind of knew that this is the kind of girl that I want to be with because I dated quite a bit after the divorce. And I was like, oh, this is, I don't, Josh, back out in the wild, it's not a good thing. I lost, I'd forgotten how to, you know, survive.

I've, you know, in the wild. You know, it's like, it's like, it's like a monkey that grows up in the zoo. You throw them out in the woods or out the jungle. You know, feed himself. Yeah. How long have you been married? Six years. Okay.

So, yeah, four years. Is she an end of the worlder? End of the worlder? Yeah, she, does she think the apocalypse is around the corner? Not really, you know. She lets me, you know, she likes the fact that I'm handling it, but she's not that concerned about it. Yeah.

Yeah. How about yours? Your wife, is she? I would say it comes in waves. I mean, I'm pretty tuned in with what's going on in the world just because of this. So when I come home and after a rough interview and come home and tell her all about what I've learned for the day, then she's like, I'm glad we have three years of food prepped in the basement. But, you know, but, um, but, uh, and I'm going to do that too.

Yeah, we've, we've, uh, I mean, ever since COVID, man, it's been, I've always been concerned, you know, just from my previous life, but, um, it's just how I think. I always think that the bottom's going to fall out at a moment's notice. Yeah. And so I'm a big contingency guy, but, um, but, uh, yeah, she, she's in on it. It goes in waves, but. Sometimes she thinks I'm crazy and then something will happen and she'll be like, I'm so glad we have all this shit. Well, that's the thing is kind of our job is to, you know, have a plan.

Protectors. You know. So what did, I mean, I want to go into a little more detail. It can't just be AI robots. What do you think is going to happen? What are your biggest concerns right now? It just feels as if the, there's an instability. there's a lack of respect for law and order,

and people are really divided. And I could see some sort of event where this side, I don't want to call it a civil war, but I mean, it feels more and more like, you know, I don't feel like we're coming together. I feel like we're getting further and further apart. So it could turn into something like that. I'm hoping to God it doesn't.

I hope that cooler heads prevail. and we figure out a way to find some common ground because right now it just feels too divided and people are too okay with hating the other end. Yeah. You know, and there's a real hate problem in this country. Yeah. And it's like, and I'm seeing I'm seeing people behave in ways they never would have behaved and I see it. I mean, I'm not going to give any

examples but well-known people. I'm like, what the hell happened to you, dude? You're so blinded by your hate that you're just behaving in a way that's just like not you. And I see that all over. I have a cyber truck. And I bought this thing well before any of this stuff was happened. Well before any of the backlash against Elon was happening. And driving down the street in Los Angeles, I can't tell you how many people like, fuck you, fuck you.

So, like, serious? Like, that is just not okay behavior. Like, when is it okay to just do that? Like, that's just blind hate, you know, for something that has nothing to. to do it. I mean, I can't drive whatever car I want to, you know, I can, you know, but, but to have, like, that kind of behavior to me scares me because people are irrational right now. And I just want to make sure that, you know, I do what I can to keep the peace. Damn. And to protect my family if I need to. Wow. Because it gets, it's getting, it's getting,

too, like, too okay with, like behaving in ways that it weren't okay, even 10 years ago. It feels like it's becoming more and more of that. Do you see that in North Dakota? No. Not anyone. Not even close. Damn, we don't, I don't see that around here. No. Wow. Yeah, it's just completely irrational behavior. And it's because there's such hatred for the other side that people are just losing their minds a little.

I used to see it here. The farther we get from COVID, the ease, it's easing up. But I will say, like, with everything that's been going on, I did, the vibe that I'm getting is that maybe we are finding some common ground with shit like the Epstein files and a lot of the stuff that's going on in the world. It seems like a lot of people are like, this isn't going how we thought it was going to go. And I think there is a growing base of the country that is just, fucking hating our government, our politicians.

And I think that's a good thing because at least it's something to you know. Well, hopefully it'll, it'll, it'll, you know, create some accountability. Yeah. You know, because without getting too much into it, because I don't like to, I'm never going to preach to people about how to believe or what they should believe or shame them for what they do believe. But, you know, there's definitely got to be some accountability because there's been so much. heinous

behavior that just shouldn't be okay. And like I said, it's just like things that weren't okay even five years ago or now seem to be somehow brushed under the rug. It's like, no, that's not okay. Yeah. You know, I just want to make sure that we, you know, people are maintaining some clarity around like,

what is like okay behavior and what's not. You think this could all be biblical? Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I haven't thought about it like that. You haven't? No. You're a Christian, right?

I am, but I guess I haven't made that connection. What do you mean? Well, I've been a lot of the things in the Bible that say that a lot of things are happening that the Bible says would happen. Oh, gosh. Right fucking now. And that's a whole other conversation. but that's kind of where I've landed. Oh, boy.

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predictions. I don't know if they predict things that say that's going to happen in the world. And it's a lot of political shit that has gone on in the country says that's going to happen. Like gender ideology, shit like this. But it's, and it seems to be speeding up. Getting faster.

Yeah, I don't see any. backing off from either side as far as what, this is why I tend to not get overly involved in this stuff because one thing that I've learned from all this is that I'm not changing anybody's mind. People are dug in. All you can do is just sort of, you know, behave in a way that you think is right, loving,

not filled with hate. Part of the reason I went back to the church, honestly. I needed something to rise above the noise because I found myself starting to feel some of this same hatred against the people that I disagree with. And I was like, what am I doing? I was losing sleep over it. I was, I was, you know, really, really angry and started, you know, what am I doing? I need to, I need to get back and reconnect spiritually. And so I found, I just started, drop my son off, he goes to a Catholic school, I would just drop him off and go sit in church for 15 minutes, just pray or just meditate. If I'm on location somewhere, I'll find a church, whether it's Catholic or Presbyterian or Lutheran, I don't care.

As long as God lives there, I'll go. And I found that that's really sort of helped me sort of make sense of some of it and hopefully find some clarity in it all because I, I just needed something because I didn't want to be that woman in the street flipping me off, you know, with this hatred in her eyes. I just like, I'm not going to be that person. I need to, like, figure out a way to, you know, find God again. When did you start looking at that? I mean, I've never really, I mean, I go through phases where I'll be really connected spiritually

in times that I'm not. And I find that when I am connected spiritually, I'm a much better friend, father, husband, brother, just a better person all around when I'm connected spiritually. When I'm not, you know, I can get a little squirly. You know, I can start to lose track of what's important, you know, and this business can really take you down some dark roads. And so I needed to stay. And I think that's what the Catholic religion did for me.

It was really, you know, even though I don't agree with a lot of this stuff, I still find that it really taught me right from wrong, gave me that backbone to be like, okay, this is it. Whenever I'd, whenever I'd, you know, go wayward one way or the other, it always kind of brought me back. You know, church, friends, family, you know, it's been, thank God, I have a good group of friends, really good family, and was raised Catholic, it was raised Christian.

Now, I'm not as, I don't, the dogma of it all doesn't mean as much to me. I don't care so much about, like, what religion says I have to do to what, as long as it feels like it's, uh, you know, about love, peace, harmony, things that keep my head clear of all the noise. I grew up Catholic, too. Yeah. Are you still Catholic? Yes.

I think so. Me too. But like you, I started kind of going around. I wanted, I mean, I fell out of it. I was raised Catholic and then kind of fell out of it in the SEAL teams. and recently, maybe with the last two, three years, kind of, uh, refound Christ, you know? And, um, and so I started going to all these non-denominational churches.

Yeah, me too. And, uh, I really like them. Yeah. And, and, you know, I think, I think, I'll probably get blasted for saying this, but I think one thing that the Catholic religion lacks on is, uh, the teachings of Jesus. Because I don't, growing up, I don't know shit about the teachings. of Jesus or really who he was. And I realized that when I was going to these non-denominational

churches, I was like, these Southern boys and girls over here are like quote in scripture, like, bam, bam, bam, I can't do any of that. Yeah, me either. And so I really, I started paying a lot of attention because I wanted to learn more about Christ and the life of Jesus and what it all means instead of just the, you know, the typical Catholic Mass. Yeah.

And then I said, started reading a lot about spiritual warfare and diabolic influence and stuff like that. And that, I don't think anybody in Christianity matches the Catholic Church when it comes to spiritual warfare, what it all means, how it works. And so... What do you mean by that? Spiritual warfare. Yeah, and how nobody can match the Catholic religion.

What does that mean? Is that a good thing or a bad thing? I don't think it's a good thing or a bad thing. I think that... Like, why is the Catholic religion better at spiritual warfare than the rest of them? What is spiritual warfare? What is spiritual warfare? Spiritual warfare, man, how do you describe...

I mean, basically, spiritual warfare is, you know, the good and evil and the battle for your soul, or your mind. Oh, okay. Now I got you. For the world. I would agree with that then, because that's what's kept me from really going off the deep end. Really, like, taking that dark road. down the whatever path it was going to take.

Spiritual warfare brought me back to, you know, whether you agree with the Catholic, you know, dogma and all the stuff around it, it does give you that sense of right and wrong. It talks about, I had this guy, Father Ripperger on, and he's like the, The Exorcist in North America. Okay. And he wrote this book called Diabolic influence,

which I've been picking up and digging into since I've interviewed him. And it talks about everything from, I mean, I don't know if you believe in possession and exorcisms and all that kind of stuff, but he kind of talks about how evil, demons, demonic influence kind of seeps into your life and how it gets in.

And a lot of the ways it gets in is by, like, really, just really bad. bad shit that you're doing. Yeah. And so it's, if you get into it, it's pretty fascinating. I'm gonna read that book. I'll send you the episode. Oh.

I'll go if I can find that episode. You can't even buy the book. Oh, really? That's the thing, yeah. Really? He's got a couple, but he wrote it for, he wrote it for, basically, he wrote it for the Vatican, is a guide, you know, to how this is, how it's happening. and it's yeah it's it's it's it's fascinating dude okay the table you have a copy of that

i got a copy well i would be very interested in that because yes i do believe in that i do believe that there are you know dark forces at play me too and if you're not spiritually connected you're really susceptible and uh you know it's even easy to become susceptible. Oh, yeah. You know, if you're not vigilant about, you know, staying spiritually connected. Yeah. So what got you into the longevity stuff?

Well, I was taking testosterone replacement therapy for a few years before I ever started into this and I was keeping it a secret. I was doing some of the peptides, but, you know, never told anybody about it, but I was seeing how much it was actually helping me. And my friend Fabian Calvo brought me this idea to be part of this company. I was like, no, no, no, I can't tell people what I'm, you know, that's my dark little secret. But then I started thinking about that and I was like, of course I should do this. This is something I could easily shine a light on that makes it okay because it's helped me so much.

I mean, it's truly testosterone replacement has been huge for me. It's brought my levels, but I was low. So, you know, I'm able to keep muscle on, able to, you know, do things that I could do in my 30s that I'm now 53 and can do. And then we got into the peptides, sort of learning more and more about them and how much, how much they can actually help. And I think that that was, that was the reason why is because it gave me a chance to sort of share some of the stuff that I'd learned, even though I was keeping it quiet for so many years. What kind of peptides? I do I do

I'm sorry Tessa Morland I do the Wolverine stack which is HGGCCU TB 500 and KPV which is great for joints and skin and hair recovery

cell regeneration what else do I do? I do NAD and MOTC What does that do? NAD is like NAD and MOTC, the help with the mitochondria. I'm not going to probably, I'm probably going to butcher this a little bit. I'm learning, but it's really good about energy, skin, staying young looking, the mitochondria and the energy and stuff like that is what it's supposed to be.

Do you do any of this stuff? Yeah, I do TRT. I don't do peptides, but I'm getting ready to. Yeah. And, yeah, and then the NAD stuff. Yeah. It works, man. It really does work.

You know, and then there's the HRT. We started doing it for women, too, which is, you know, we started as just a men's company. And then I had so many females in my life saying, dude, you got to, like, we need help too. And I started doing research on that. And there's the HRT, which can literally prolong the youth of women. It can stem the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the. of paramenopause and menopause and bring your levels of progesterone and and estrogen back up to what they were so women don't have to go through the same things that they always

have you know with with menopause so all this stuff is like wait are you saying it like skips menopause well no it just it just delays the effects of it and and reduces like the hot flashes and the uh the i don't know i'm not i have never gone through it because i'm not a female but But from what I've heard, like, if you can, if you can regulate your hormones, that's part of the reason why this menopause is such a bitch for women is because their hormones have fallen off. Like in men, it's testosterone. Women, it's estrogen and progesterone and testosterone as well. So you can really sort of regulate that stuff with this hormone therapy. And we have doc, we have a whole, and what makes this company so great is that we have a whole team of doctors.

So it's like a concierge service. So the FDA doesn't let you just go out and click, click, click and have the stuff sent to you. They want you to be guided by a professional medical expert, somebody with the ability to actually walk you through this and create a plan. And so we have a whole team of doctors. So I feel like we're doing it the right way. We're really able to help so many people. And this stuff works. I mean, it truly works.

And so it's a really fun. It's been really, really fun, actually. For me, learning more and more about it because I have a real natural curiosity for wellness and longevity and trying to stay as healthy as I can for as long as I can, not just for my work, but for my kids.

You know, I'm 53 years old and I have a baby on the way. I need to be as strong as I can for her as long as I can. Congratulations on that. Thank you. You going to have any more? Probably not. No?

Yeah. How old are you? 43. Oh, you're still a young man. I would love to, but I don't know if it's going to happen. You got two beautiful ones. That's all that matters. Yep.

So yeah, that's, you know, that's the main reason is just because I wanted to be able to build something and help. And for myself personally, selfishly, I was trying to, you know, learn as much as I could to, you know, stay in the game for as long as I could. You know, I'm not going out without a fight, man. stays young and strong and beryl for as long as I can. Right on. You guys have any, you venture in it anything new? Are you going to stick with the peptides, NAD and DR? Well, I mean, yes, right now, I mean, there's just so much, there's stuff that coming up on the horizon that's just like unbelievable.

Some of these things that are not approved yet, but they're about to be. So for now, yes, hormone therapy for men and women, testosterone for men, HRT for women, whether it's estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, and then all these amazing peptides. Eventually, it may be stem cells. Nice. Which is another thing that's going to become incredibly beneficial. I mean, the science behind that is incredible, too. I mean, I'm just, like, beginning to learn about, like, how amazing that stuff can

if done and, you know, administer properly. And, you know, thankfully with Dr. Lawrence and his team, we have just the best people in the world to help. Right on. Have you looked at, I'm just curious, have you looked at this plasma exchange stuff? I've heard a little bit about it. You know what I'm talking about? You're talking about when they spin the blood in the PRP? No, no, they, it's almost like blood filtration.

Have you seen any, I don't know how much time is. spend on social media or if you've seen it. But right now, like this trend, there's all these people, they hold up these bags. I saw Rogan did that, didn't he? Didn't Rogan have a big one? Yeah, that's plasma exchange. So apparently it's like filtering all the spike proteins and all the shit out of your blood. Really? Like maybe heavy metals and stuff and the darker the bags are the more toxins that it's pulled out. I would hate to see what mine looks like. I know, me too. Me too. But it might be like a greenish hue. we've never seen that color before that's fucking red but uh yeah i don't know that's something i've

been looking into uh to do so especially with all the exposure of all the fucked up places i've been throughout the world parasites is another one i want to look into yeah i've heard a lot about this stuff i'm just again i i don't i'm no expert in any of this stuff i'm as curious as anybody else but i do have a natural sort of curiosity to learn more and parasites are one of them that my mother was out my mother's always kind of been on the forefront of this stuff she was eating the egg whites in the early 80s we were so embarrassed like mom you're asking me to take your egg like she's this girl's she's been always sort of and she just tell tell me about parasites and how you need to get checked for them and how you can get them sort of expelled from your body I don't know is it a is it a fad I don't

know feels like it could be real yeah all the stuff we eat oh I'm sure it's real. Yeah. I'm sure it's real. But, well, where do people find the company? Who's it for? What's that? Is it for everyone or? It's for everyone. I mean, it's, it's, I mean, it's, it's, I mean, we're finding in our data that people are doing it younger and younger as a preemptive, uh, sort of, uh, way to, to stay, to prevent, you know, some of these effects of aging that happens. So people in the 30s are starting to use this stuff. But we, you know, we're meant for people, my age, 40s, 50s, even 60s or 70s, these things can be really beneficial. Gatlin.com will set you up with one of our doctors who will put you through, you know,

a few of the steps that it takes to get involved. This is, you know, this is a big deal for people that are into, and it can be scary for people. So we want them to be as comfortable as possible. Make sure they get their levels checked. Make sure you know where you're at. Just in general, you should know that anyway, I think. Just get your. levels checked. You'll find that you're probably not optimizing as well as you could be. There's a lot of peptides you could be using. Your hormones can be leveled up to where they should be. So it's a pretty easy process. It's telemedicine, but it's like telemedicine 2.0 because we make it real simple. Everything's delivered discreetly to your house, but you'll also have somebody there to help you.

So you don't have some dude from the gym who compounds out of the backseat of his car. You know, stay away, stay away from the research and development stuff from China. I'm telling you. All of our stuff is 100% compound in the USA, compounded in the USA with, you know, through our own 503B pharmacies and API wholesalers. And we just, we know where this stuff is coming from. And it's all like the best quality. Right on. And she said gatlin.com.

Gatlin.com. Gatlin. L-A-N. Right on, right on. I've got a hat for you, too, by the way. Oh, good. Thank you. Nice.

Thank you. Yes, sir. Well, I think we're wrapping up to the interview, but I just want to say that, man, you're like a really grounded person seems like. So are you, Sean? Thank you. But I already knew that about you. How so?

I just, you know, people who know you watching the show? How do you stay grounded? How do I stay grounded? Yeah. Honestly, I've got a really, really awesome group of friends. There's like 20 of us that every day we're on a thread. And if you didn't know we're best friends, you might think we're worst enemies, because there is no, there is no pulling any punches.

These guys are ruthless, but also super loving. They don't let me get, you know, any higher than I need to be. They love me and they, you know, they got my back, but they're not, they don't treat me any differently. And I think that's been a big part of it. Great family, amazing wife. You know, North Dakota's been good. Good for you, man.

I've got some good people around you. It's good to hear. Well, thanks for coming. Oh, man. Thank you so much for having me. No matter where you're watching the Sean Ryan show from, if you get anything out of this at all, anything. Please like, comment, and subscribe.

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