She's On The Money - 5 Shares That Skyrocketed Last Financial Year (And What You Can Learn From Them)
Episode Date: July 1, 2025This week, we’re diving into five shares that absolutely popped off last financial year, and what they can actually teach us about smart investing. Some were expected (hello, gold rush), ot...hers were more niche, but all of them have big money lessons baked in. From pharmacy shakeups to booming tech, we’re unpacking what really drives a share price, how to spot strong business stories, and why investing is about more than just crossing your fingers and manifesting gains. Whether you’re deep in your investing era or just market-curious, this one’s all about making investing feel less intimidating, and way more empowering. Here’s what we cover:📉 Why gold is having a moment… and the miner that surged 150%+📉The new pharmacy powerhouse on the ASX📉The furniture brand making waves (and margins) through AI and drop-shipping📉 The everyday app for parents and pet owners… that quietly crushed the stock market.📉 And why “booming” doesn’t always mean “buy now” Join our Facebook Group AKA the ultimate support network for money advice and inspiration. Ask questions, share tips, and celebrate your wins with a like-minded crew of 300,000+.And follow us on Instagram for Q&As, bite-sized tips, daily money inspo... and relatable money memes that just get you.Acknowledgement of Country By Nartarsha Bamblett aka Queen Acknowledgements. The advice shared on She's On The Money is general in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. She's On The Money exists purely for educational purposes and should not be relied upon to make an investment or financial decision. If you do choose to buy a financial product, read the PDS, TMD and obtain appropriate financial advice tailored towards your needs. Victoria Devine and She's On The Money are authorised representatives of Money Sherpa PTY LTD ABN - 321649 27708, AFSL - 451289.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast that turns share market chaos into
something your sleep-deprived brain can actually understand. I'm Bec Syed, your co-host, here to
ask all the investing questions you've definitely thought, but maybe never said out loud. And
luckily, I'm joined by the investing expert who actually knows what she's talking about,
Victoria Devine. Hello Bex Sayed. I'm very excited mainly because I always love an opportunity to
talk about the share market and you've given me a whole episode. I was going to say this is
very exciting just for you. Thank you. Thank you. I do need some more things in my Sharesies
account so I'm kind of excited too. What's your Sharesies account at now? I think it's at $758
or something like that. That's growing so quickly. Who are you? I know. I wouldn't be able to do
that in savings. I love it. I haven't. I love it. And I feel like now is a very good time to talk
about the share market because it's been the end of financial year, which is also my birthday,
because if anything, I am a finance baby at heart. And I think given the financial year has now
wrapped up, which means I have to wait another like 365 plus days for my birthday to come again.
That's so funny. She's counting.
Oh, I thought it would be a very good time for you and I to sit down and I guess take a little
bit of a step back and go, well, what happened with the ASX this year? What did it look like?
What did it feel like? Because we do these episodes and you guys love them. And I adore
that you love them because any time to yap about shares for me is a good time. But we often look
to the share market to make decisions. And we say time and time again, past performance is not a
reliable predictor of future performance. And we can look at what has happened, but that doesn't
mean that it's going to happen into the future. So anything that we talk about today, like if I go,
oh this ETF like was incredible that doesn't mean it's going to continue to be incredible but it's
just so interesting and I think so pervy to be like what performed what didn't I know why when
where how so whether you're investing yourself or you just want to learn a little bit more about
what actually drives the share market this episode from my perspective is going to give you a really
good sneak peek at what I think are the biggest trends and keep in mind this isn't market research
These are my opinions. These are my, I don't know. I talked to lots of market experts. I talked to
lots of share traders. I talked to lots of financial advisors. It's like a culmination
of all of that. So it's not like, well, ComBank said. Totally. I love Warren Buffett, who I
know would have a little bit of say. You shouldn't have a crush on a 90 year old.
But it's kind of like, I want to show you a little bit of a sneak peek at what I think the biggest
trends were. I want to show you what I think the standout performers were and maybe a few
unexpected winners. Cause I remember like doing the script of this episode and being like,
hold on, what the hell? Right. I think you'll enjoy it as well, Bec. So strap in. I hope you're
ready to talk about shares, but I guess again, I just really want to double down because maybe
I'm just a little conservative baby at heart, but this episode, Bec, it's not to tell you what to
buy. Don't go running to your shares app and be like, oh my God, V talked about X, Y, Z. And that
means I'm just going to buy it because she said it did well. Like I'm not here to tell you what
to purchase because that's actually wildly irresponsible. It's actually here to help you
start recognizing, I guess, what drives a company's growth, what impacts share price and
how to spot what I think is a very strong business versus what's kind of like a bit of a hyped up
headline because we've all seen the hype online we see what's going on like oh we see how dramatic
people can be so beck let's strap in no more disclaimers no more anything today we're going
to dive into some of the biggest share rises on the asx 200 the companies that have seen the
strongest percentage growth over the past year are you ready oh my god i'm so excited and i know
you say this is not advice this is not something you should be running to your phone and buying
but I already run to your phone and have a like a look like you can have a look as you know beg
the shares is like search function and this isn't sponsored by shares like they haven't paid me to
do this I just I know that you use shares so I'm talking about and also like if you listen to money
diaries you'll know that like 99 of our community when I'm like so tell me like do you invest they're
like yeah clearly on shares is yeah I feel like it's the best example to use because so many of
you are familiar with it totally words kind of like using google you can run to google and type
it in. Anyway, carry on. So I guess I wonder, and I know this is a very broad question because I
don't really understand shares. Whatever. That's my job. That's my job. And I tell you how it works.
That's true. Thank you. And so I guess my question is, where do we start? At the beginning.
Okay. Got you. Got you. Okay. Where is that? So I actually want to start this conversation
talking about a topic that I feel like our community has had a lot of conversation around.
I've actually gotten a lot of DMs semi-recently over the last maybe three months, I'd say.
And that is about gold. I feel like even you asked me about gold recently and you were like,
hold on. So people buy physical gold. And I was like, yes, babe, they buy gold and then they pay
people to store it for them. That I find very shocking. Right. So let's start there. Okay.
Let's start there. Because I feel like gold is having a very serious moment at the moment. Okay.
And lots of people are talking about it. And I mean, yes, we've spoken about it recently,
But gold at the moment, or gold is popular, I would say, in times of economic uncertainty.
Like people turn to gold, you could say.
Like when the share market's going up and down, like it's related, I would say, to fear
and kind of like buckling down and getting quite serious and being like, oh, like, you
know, the world's a bit tumultuous.
And I mean, you can see why a lot of Americans maybe are turning to gold and going, oh, I
don't know about the share prices.
like Trump seems I would say to be having a meltdown online I've literally never seen a
politician swear until the other day and he's like saying the f-word I just don't get it I don't know
the man thinks he can tweet and people are reading his tweets being like oh yeah you're right I'll
have a ceasefire because Donald Trump did it I know I can't don't get me started and we shouldn't
go on and on about it because apparently if I do go on and on about it, I could be banned from the
US. Who cares? At the moment, I don't have a lot of want to go there, but I do miss the food in
New York. That's so fair. I actually would like to go sometimes too. And if I'm banned, that's okay.
Selfishly, I don't want to get banned from the US, but like I don't have any want to go there
at the moment. It just doesn't feel good. But anyway, gold is seen as a little bit of a safe
haven at times where things are a little bit tumultuous. And currently global demand for gold
is rising. It's getting very, very popular. And it's not just, you know, everyday mom and dad
investors or, you know, even Warren Buffett being like, oh, gold's a good option right now.
It's actually, we're seeing central banks pick up a lot of it. Like I would say that the central
bank is actually stockpiling it. So they're trying to do this to diversify away from the
US dollar. And even countries like China are buying more gold than ever. So when that starts
to happen, people like you and I go, is gold good? Should we be looking at gold? Other people are
looking at gold. And obviously when there's demand for gold, the price for gold increases.
So we're seeing that going, oh, it's a little bit of a popularity contest. And we're seeing this
reflected in the share market as well. So if you look at the top performers on the ASX, which
for those of you playing along at home is the australian stock exchange at least five of them
are gold producers oh which is kind of cool and not that common during i guess non-economically
tumultuous times to have five gold producers be sitting at the top performers on the asx so
confusing to me for some reason but i what do you mean i get it so it's like a mining company a
mining company that goes and digs up all the gold i understand i understand i understand so okay so
like they're going and producing it yeah and like digging it up because obviously gold is i would
say it's not an unlimited resource but it's relatively limited and we need companies to be
able to you know go gold panning basically to go find more to sell to us i believe there's still
gold out there it's crazy right like did you ever do the ballarat thing where you went and like
Yeah, that was very fun. And I have my little somewhere in probably, yeah, I have that little
jar of water with the like gold specks in it. And I like, because we couldn't, I'm assuming
couldn't find any, we had to go buy some from the thing. I can't even remember how I acquired it.
Honestly, all I remember from going to Ballarat were those raspberry drops.
Yeah, the raspberry drops. At the lolly shops.
Yep. Yep. Yep. 10 out of 10.
Anyway, back to proper gold, not panning for gold in grade three. The one at the top that
we are going to take a bit of a closer look at, Bec, is called Regus Resources. And their share
price over the last 12 months has gone up more than 150%. Whoa. Isn't that insane? I feel an
urgency to buy, but I'm going to settle down. No settling. I mean, yes, settling down, but like
150% increase. Yeah, that's pretty good. That makes people interested. Yeah. So what are they?
who are we just resources? So they're little gold panners, right? So they're probably not out there
with their pans. They've got very big machinery, but they are a gold mining company that is based
in Western Australia and they explore for gold. They develop the sites. So they like go out scout
sites and be like, this could be a good place to dig. And then they operate the mines to pull all
of the gold out of the ground and then they sell it. One of their biggest assets is a 30% stake in
the Tropicana gold mine, which is going to mean not that much to you, but like owning 30% of
another business is a big deal, which is actually one of the major gold sites here in Australia.
And it's a joint venture with another company. Cause as I said before, they only own 30% of it
called Anglo Gold Ashanti. Beautiful name. I know Ashanti. Like I feel like Sri Lankan and like
Indian names have like a magic about them. Yeah, totally. So pretty. And then I got,
Victoria. You know, like that just feels rude, mom. Anyway, they are known for being a low cost,
but very high output operation. So it's a very solid cash generator. So if we're looking at it
and we zoom out a little bit, we go, well, you know, Regis resources, good company. They're
doing some good stuff, but they also own 30% of another company that's doing really well.
Yeah. So if I told you that you'd go, they seem pretty smart. They seem pretty switched on.
So they're onto a really good combination at the moment of rising gold prices, which helps any
miner, to be honest. So any company that mines for gold is going to be pretty happy with the fact
that gold's more expensive at the moment. And when you break it down, it's actually a really
solid operation. Like their business is running relatively leanly. They are doing good business
internally. Like they're doing what they said they were going to do. So the production of gold for
them is relatively stable and their costs are, I would say, under control. And they've been
investing some of their money. So a lot of their profit is going into expanding their mine life
so that they're not just living for the now, they're like kind of planning for the future.
Like they clearly want to see this increase be sustainable. Yeah. Like they want to just keep
on keeping on. But I think, Bec, it's also really worth remembering that mining shares can be really
volatile. They actually hold up a lot of the Australian share market because as you know,
or maybe do or don't, I don't know how much research you've ever done into it. Mining,
but mining's massive in Australia. So like you would have heard about fly in, fly out people,
right? Like, you know, I feel like if you're in your twenties or thirties, you've had a friend
at some point being like, maybe I'll go to the mines for a few years or like, maybe I'll X,
Y, Z. We've all talked about it. And the reason that we've talked about this and we know, like
you and I know that if you go work in mines you make big money yeah right and that exists because
we have such a strong mining export in Australia like there are lots of options and I think all of
us know that most of it happens in Western Australia because that's where all of the like
essentially gold is and all of the other things but we also export things like iron ore so mining
in Australia is a very big business in fact it's I think it's our number one like export so the
thing that other countries buy from us has been mined oh which is kind of cool but also I won't
say funny maybe the word isn't funny here but it's interesting as well because so many of us
are turning to be ethical investors yeah so therefore we're against mining I was thinking
that I was like is this bad for the environment but that it can be it can be and I mean completely
separate conversation there are a lot of mining sites that are putting a lot of money into becoming
sustainable and working on that and how to put back into the environment because at the end of
the day like even electric cars rely on petrol when it comes down to it right like and I'm not
saying we put petrol into those cars but like to power the grids we're probably using some type of
coal to burn I think the only state that really relies on hydro is Tasmania and so there are yeah
there's a lot for us to do before we can completely be clean and green yeah what we want it all from
my perspective side note what we want to see is companies really investing in sustainability and
investing in becoming more green and investing in our future yes completely not burying their
heads in the sand and being like whatever we're just going to keep getting this iron ore bye
but in saying that mining can be relatively volatile um so it goes up and down over time
And as you would know right now, people are kind of looking at gold being like,
oh, that's pretty sexy. That's pretty interesting. I'm interested in it. But like,
if that momentum shifts or costs creep up, the shine can wear off pretty quickly and you get
over it and you're like, there, I'm onto the next thing. And with a share price that's already up
more than 150% back, I would say some of that future optimism might already be priced in.
I see. Okay. So like we're excited and we're just buying it,
but like, is it really worth 150% more right now? Yeah. Okay. That's good to know because I guess
it does depend on the state of the economy and all this. Absolutely. It does. I see. I see. I
see. Okay. So this next one I see here, Austal, A-U-S-T-A-L. Austal. I'll be honest, I've obviously
never heard of this. What do they do? You're like, what's that? You've put it on the list.
Um, I, I think that's very fair. And I would actually say that most of our audience have
never heard of austal um in fact guessing i feel like you could assume they're australian
i would think so unless your special interest is ships and ships and we will understand that
context soon i am yeah but they are a western australian company i see and they were started in
1988 and they build high end high speed ferries a high speed ferry oh my god high speed ferries
I can't just imagine how air blowing in the wind.
I bet you didn't see that coming.
You were like, Austal, obviously ferries.
Obviously.
Obviously ferries.
High speed or something.
Anyway, sorry.
Yeah, continue.
But over the past few decades, I mean, I haven't had my eye on the ferry trade,
but I did do a little bit of research for you.
Don't worry.
Thank you.
They've really upped their game when it comes to ferries.
Faster.
Yeah, bet you didn't see that need.
I did not.
Yep.
So the ferry trade, it's been increasing and they've leveled up.
And they've gone from being just like producing the spirit of Tasmania
to being a global player in defence.
Oh.
And when you say defence, you go, oh, big dog ships.
Yeah.
Right?
So they've got a shipyard in Western Australia and the US
and the Philippines and Vietnam.
And they're one of the only Australian companies
that regularly build ships for the US Navy.
Oh.
I would say that's a pretty big deal.
yes i would think so you go ferries that's cute and then you go hold on u.s navy ships
yeah i see they really they actually might be big dogs it's like in my head very clear like
angel and devil situations like fairies so they've been working away in the background
yeah okay tracking away and they've been building their ferries sure um and that is why their share
price has increased by more than 150 in the past 12 months and why a lot of people are going hold
on. Hold on. Have I changed my special interest from trains to ferries? Interesting. And a lot
of that growth actually came after they won a contract to build up to 12 new, what they call
a landing ship for the US Navy. And that deal alone for them could be worth more than 380
million USD. Oh my God. So it hasn't happened yet. I mean, they've won the contract and they're
starting to do it, but it's up to 12 ships. It might not be the full 12 ships. They might get
to 10 and the US Navy will be like, that's enough for now. Like they've won the contract. So what
happens when we say won a contract is often when governments like the US government, Australian
government does this, they go out to what's called tender. So essentially let's say, let's say the
Australian government wanted a new cleaning company for Parliament House and all of the
government locations around Australia. They can't just go, hey, Becky, have you got a friend?
Because that would not be kosher. What they do is they put out a tender and they say,
hey, we've got this job. And it's basically like putting a job ad on Seek, but like for big dogs.
And they put their job ad up and say, I want a cleaning company that can do A, B, C, D and E.
And then all of the big cleaning companies would quote respond. And they would put together a
pitch and be like well I could do it for 300 million across all of your locations and then
another company might come back and be like well I can do it for 250 million and they kind of like
essentially bid bid they put in their bid sure and then the Australian government will weigh up
those bids and make a selection based on that so that's what clearly happened in the US
Austal has won the contract for the US Navy ships which is kind of cool when you think about it
That is really cool.
So they, like, landed or they won this contract
and then the share price took off after that point?
Yes.
I see.
Like, it had been taking off.
They'd been going to the next level.
They'd been doing really well.
But I would say that's the thing that really pushed them
because that's a massive contract.
And, I mean, it's worth $380 million USD or up to.
I'm going to have to have a little Google,
even though I don't know if I like this one, like, investing-wise.
Like, is it ethical?
Anyway, I'll have to have a Google.
Yeah, there's a lot of questions about the end.
And I mean, we can have another conversation on another podcast episode about ethics and
how to manage them and negotiate what that means with yourself.
But I think this is just interesting pieces around how are they making money?
What does that look like?
But also, Bec, if this company is already up 150%, does that make them a good buy?
Right.
Like, are they going to keep going up?
Or are they like at the peak?
Or is that like, you know, have there been heaps of people who are really into ships
watching this and just buying in because they're excited when actually the share price is not worth
it. There's a lot of questions. Yeah, I see. I see. Okay. So they landed a big contract,
their share price takes off. And then what happens? So defense contracts, I would say are
massive, whether that's in Australia. I mean, defense contracts in the US obviously are
significantly larger. And when you win one, the market is very reactive. They're like, oh, damn,
because the defense, I won't say they've never not
because I can't prove it.
But like, if the defense says they're going to pay you,
they're going to pay you.
It's not like, oh, they promised to do this
and then they don't.
Like if the defense is engaging you to build 12 ships,
like they've already worked out that they need the 12 ships.
It's like kind of almost guaranteed
that that money is going to go into their pocket, right?
They're not going, oh, actually six months,
that person's redundant.
Like they're not making decisions
and then being like, we'll work it out later.
like this is pretty set in stone but Austal's not just doing one-off builds which is kind of good
they also do and this is where a lot of their consistency in share price comes from they do
maintenance and upgrades on ships as well so like they're not just building it and hoping
consistently they get new people to buy new ships they do building and maintenance upgrades on ships
that are already out there which then creates reoccurring revenue because like your ship needs
servicing babes. Absolutely. Every, I don't know, 500,000 knots or something. Is that a thing?
Like that. Like, I don't know. Do you think that they're like just driving down the freeway one
day and then it pings like service too soon? Like my car does. Yeah. Like you swam 700 kilometers.
But that obviously creates really, really consistent reoccurring revenue between their
really big jobs, which people like, because I mean, if I'm going to buy into a company,
I want to know that they've got cash coming in consistently. Yes. And that stability
really helps their numbers look, I would say, a lot healthier. And I guess defense is also what
we call a little bit, like to be a bit more negative, a boom and bust industry. So if you
win the right contracts, sexy, great, 10 out of 10. But if not, or like, let's say Austell won
this because remember how they put their bid in? They said, we can build these ships for this
amount of cost to the government. What if the cost of the iron to build the ships increases
significantly? The government's not going to pay more because that's not what their contract is
worth. So that could cost Austal a lot of money. And if things blow out, the tables can turn very,
or the waters can turn very quickly. And Austal's actually had a number of different bumps over the
years where this has happened, including what you'd call margin pressure. So essentially,
are they actually making a lot of good profit or are they actually like spending what they are
making on building these ships and just like calling it even but right now they're on a hot
streak so right now they're doing well okay but they don't have an incredible track record for
doing really well and generating really big profits like they get the job done but they
might like spend what they made on building the ship and be like oh thank god that's over and it
didn't cost us any more money you know oh okay yeah i got you yeah risky risky risky okay this
next one i have heard of but in a different context sigma sigma health care health care
sigma feels frat boy doesn't it sigma beta yeah it feels yeah right yep but sigma health care
why have you heard of it health care just because of that frat boy thing but also i did google it
because I was like what's going on here so it's uh they've just merged with chemist warehouse I
believe so they have I've been googling and like complete side note did you see the house in
in Byron that the um owner of chemist warehouse bought oh I didn't see it I didn't see it well
for you can you can oh I was gonna get to you after it's big it's big it was worth I can't
even remember like 23 24 million dollars ridiculous anyway yes you're right they did
just merged with Chemist Warehouse, which was really big. And that's actually exactly why their
share price is through the roof. In fact, it's up more than 140% this year. Oh, that's good.
So clearly the people love the fact that Chemist Warehouse is now part of it. Yeah. And I guess
here's what's happened. Sigma Healthcare and Chemist Warehouse merged. So they didn't just
buy, like Sigma didn't buy Chemist Warehouse. They've like become one company, if that makes
sense, which is a little bit different in early 2025, making them what I would call, I don't know,
a pharmaceutical powerhouse. Oh, okay. It is, but like how much do you love chemist's warehouse?
I actually really love chemist's warehouse. I love chemist's warehouse. It's like girl bunnings.
Yes. Like, you know how boys go to bunnings and they just like walk around, look at stuff.
The guys and the gays. Yeah. The guys, the girls. Yep. The girls and the gays,
we're all going to chemist's warehouse. Like we walk around. If I've got a script, I'm like,
they're like do you want to wait in store yes babe i want to wait in store i've got to go look
at the stuff thank you can you take as long as you can yeah i'm always like how long will this
take and it's not because i'm impatient it's because i want to know what time limit i have
to walk around chemist's warehouse totally don't be silly give me my script but like at least 10
minutes as well at least so now they really own a very large part of the pharmaceutical retail
network and i think that if anyone said name a chemist immediately you don't go am cow i feel
like in the 90s you said Amcal? Yeah, sure, sure, sure. They own Amcal as well, but they also own
Chemist Warehouse. I think all of us go there. Anyway, love a cheap script, but we're talking,
they now have more than 1000 pharmacy stores, including Chemist Warehouse. I told you before,
they also own Amcal and discount drugstores and guardian pharmacies. They sound American. The
discount drugstore sounds American to me. There's one in Rosebud. Have you seen it? Oh, really?
it's like it's painted the same color as chemist warehouse and i'm always confused and i'm not
gonna lie i'm always disappointed because it's not chemist warehouse they always get you like
that they're painted that same color and then you go in they also have 16 very large distribution
centers around australia which manage logistics and like delivery of medications and health
products and the merger is actually expected so they've obviously done their maths is actually
expected to generate around 60 million dollars in cost savings a year just from streamlining
everything oh great so by these companies coming together both businesses are saving money because
they both have facilities and resources that they can use yeah together like you know if you and i
i know you are very into pottery beck by the way guys has just launched her online you have you're
so sweet thank you is it handmade by beck it's designed by beck designed by beck yeah everything
is handmade freehand everything yeah anyway you can go check that out thank you beck it's like
if i owned a kiln and you and i went into business together it just becomes cheaper for everybody
it's like a long distance relationship like you're spending so much money going back and
forth together so we only have to pay one rent one rent one rent dual income no more flights
back and forth we're gonna become dinks yes exactly so when you actually own the supply
chain and then you also own the shops you can actually squeeze through more margin move faster
and create a better customer experience which is great but you also become big dogs and you have a
lot of money plus chemist warehouse i would say you and i both love it but so does everybody right
i would say it is one of the most recognized retail brands in the country and they move a
massive amount of product because have you ever gone in and just bought what you meant to buy
never but also the other thing too did you know that chemist warehouse sell literally everything
they're comprehensive from birth to death that's fantastic everything i can't believe i found some
like dexascales you know those like ones that oh yeah yeah i was like there's no way chemist
warehouse is gonna have this they do they do um they also sell a really good apricot delights
in their like health food section crazy crazy makeup got you foot chair got you everything
the other cool thing about chemist warehouse is that it's one of those companies that it doesn't
matter what's happening in the economy back. Yeah. People are going to still shop there.
So true. Like it's not, uh, it's not a luxury to go to the chemist and yes, you might stop
picking up as many things, but that company is always going to have people coming in their doors
because it's an essential service. Um, and that's, I think for us at the moment,
really important to consider when making investment decisions, like, is this a luxury?
Is it a little boo-boo? Yeah. Cause like what's happening with the pop mart share market at the
moment. Like, anyway, I've just got lots of questions about that. Yeah, fair enough. And also,
I don't know if other people are thinking this way, because I feel like we see chemist warehouses
everywhere, but they're not everywhere yet. Like they feel like they're everywhere,
but chemist warehouse still has so many growth opportunities in Australia. And they're also
moving into international markets. So they're moving into like New Zealand, Ireland, China,
and get this Dubai oh how random I think I'm most surprised about China yeah yeah oh yeah true
I'm just like oh okay yeah also they're just so like there's no um consistency here so funny
they're like New Zealand oh actually Ireland too what about China and Dubai yeah there's no
there's no consistency okay anyway pop off queens I'm sure you have a good plan but also not to
bring the mood down there are a few things that I would watch out for with this the merger still
needs to be integrated properly and that stuff is always a bit messy like when you're bringing
companies together and then all of a sudden there's two HR teams it's battle of the HR teams
and then one team ultimately gets made redundant you know like it's not that fun there's just a lot
of mess there's a lot of programs they might be using one software in one company and another in
another and it just that just feels messy right but that happens in any merger yeah and then the
competition watchdog the ACCC did raise concerns that they're watching closely to make sure that
the merged business doesn't push out smaller players or cut off rivals that's the cutest
thing I've ever heard what the ACCC is like don't be mean to the little dogs well it does happen
and the ACCC is in charge of making sure stuff like that doesn't happen because if you if you
create such a big organization that it swallows everything else is that fair competition no also
I don't know if you know this but a lot of the chemist warehouses are franchises
so like people will go to chemist warehouse and be like yo I'm a pharmacist I would love to pay
you so that I can open my own chemist warehouse get access to your distribution centers and all
your products I'll sell it I'll be the one you know when you walk into the chemist and there's
like the pharmacist's name on the door oh they're the owner of the pharmacy understood and we don't
actually know how happy the franchisees are going to stay and how that'll work over the long term
like is that going to be really smooth for them are they going to be really happy being like a
franchisee of such a big organization like did they there's just lots of questions you know
like you've got franchisees to look after as well okay okay so but also like if it works it's going
to be pretty big yeah seriously which is why they're up 140 because i think most of us are
looking at it being like, yeah, there's a few red flags. Like there are a few watchouts, but
overall I think it's going to work well. Oh my God. This sounds like, I mean, obviously
not giving advice, but ethically, I feel okay about this one. I'm going to, I'm probably going
to. Everybody wants their medications to be cheaper. Totally. It's nice. Exactly. Okay.
So we've covered some big names already, but I know you've got more up your sleeve. I just
got a feeling. That's because you've seen my notes and they're all highlighted. I really do.
And after the break, we're going to have a look
at two more top performers on the ASX this year.
One is cashing in on your online shopping habits, smart,
and the other is quietly becoming a must-have for Aussie families.
So, guys, stick around.
Welcome back, everyone.
As always, VD left us on a cliffhanger.
I don't know if it was a cliffhanger.
I need to be better at the hook.
I need to be better at being like, you guys need to stick around.
It's going to change your life.
no because they would be win a million dollars we'd be a you'd be really ridiculously rich
would have american accents would be guys be wearing baseball caps we need that kind of like
but we're just chill we're just like hey this is actually what's coming up we're trying and i mean
before the break you and i had a bit of a deep dive into the top three performers based on share
price increase so one of but two of them were 150 increase and one of them was 140 increase but now
I've picked up a couple further down the list so they don't look as dramatic but I think they are
absolutely worth having a deep dive into yeah okay I did have just a quick glance and I'm
shocked to my very core that Temple and Webster are on the list because I just thought they were
a scam company sorry what do you mean a scam company I just never bought from them I felt
like I thought they were they're so affordable yeah yeah and like that's why we're liking it
The world we're in cosy lives.
I think we all want cheaper furniture.
Yeah.
Like the stories checking out.
Yes, I've actually ordered from them before.
Seems legit.
And my girlfriend actually got bar stools the other day
and I was like, girl, where are these from?
They look so, like, I thought they were like Coco Republic
or something really expensive.
And she's like 150 bucks or something each on Temple and Webster.
Temple and Webster.
Temple and Webster.
Anyway, so Temple and Webster is actually not a scam.
It is actually Australia's biggest online based homewares brand.
that is so good to know and for those of you who maybe haven't seen it they sell barstools to my
friend um they've also sold artwork to me i've like bought artwork for my house before but they
also sell things like couches and rugs and even baby cots and furniture like you name it if it's
a piece of furniture in your house you can probably buy it on temple and webster and the most gorgeous
cool covers i always just avoid it but i'm like the only things i like are on there it's legit
and it's made my list because over the last 12 months beck they've seen their share price increase
by more than 100%. And get this, if we like zoom out a little bit more, because like,
as we all know, I love a zoom out. Over the last five years, they've increased by more than 240%.
Oh, okay. I'm jumping on that one. So they're doing well and contrary to popular Beck belief,
like they're legit. They're real. And I guess what's been working for them so far is they've
been riding this wave of like online shopping growth. Smart. So like, I feel like more and
more of us. Yes, online shopping has been around forever, not forever, but you know what I mean,
more than long enough. But I feel like, especially with cost of living pressures,
we're all kind of turning to like checking the price twice, making a list, going online,
like cross-checking things, seeing if we can get a dupe, seeing if we can get something cheaper
somewhere. Like we're all being a little bit savvier. And I actually, and this is not me
talking about Amazon, but I did some work with Amazon early June and they had a whole heap of
research that said 60% of people are now going and like putting things on their list, but also
spending more than four weeks researching that item before purchasing. 60% of people. Like
historically, we're less impulsive. So this is working for Temple and Webster, right?
That's you. You taught us that. I'm crazy though. I'm crazy. Like I love a bit of research and their
market share is up to 2.9% and they've called this a quote, once in a generation shift from
offline to online furniture purchasing. Because I don't think like even 10 years ago, would you
have purchased a couch on the internet? Maybe not. Yeah. But now that's exactly where we're turning
and they have some serious ambition as well. So they've publicly said that they want to be
the biggest furniture and homewares retailer in Australia not just online just in general
they're like no we're going to be the biggest of big dogs and their business model when you dive
into it it's actually really lean as well like most of what they sell is actually drop shipped
straight from suppliers kind of genius which means they don't hold stock or even pay warehouses
like there's no big temple and webster warehouse they just take the order they process it they
collect their cut and then they tell the producer of that item to send it to Beck. Which is kind of
cool. That means less overheads, more flexibility and fewer inventory risks. So like they don't have
big warehouses that they have to insure. They don't have factories full of forklifts. They don't
have to have all of the people. They get the other people to do it. Yeah, clever. And they're also
smart. They have their own label as well. So they make their own products. So they're kind of
designed and branded in-house. And now they are making up a very growing chunk of their revenue.
And that's important because when you have your own brand, it means that you make more money.
Better margins means better profit. Oh my God. That's so good. I feel really bad now. Sorry,
Templin. I haven't bought from them ever. It's like not that I have.
You can call them later and apologize. I think I will.
And Beck also, it's 2025. They've gone all in on AI, which lots of people have,
but it's working for them, which has already seen them save heaps of money and also improve
their margins. Get this, more than 60% of their customer service is now handed by technology.
Okay. Okay. Customer care costs are down by more than 50%. Shipping price accuracy is up and
revenue per site visit has increased. So more people visiting their website are spending more
money with them. That's good. Money for them. Plus they've just launched a new category called
like build, which sells DIY gear. They now sell like tiles and tapware. So they're not just
furniture anymore. They're just taking over. And I reckon they're trying to just like take on the
whole Renault journey and be like, we'll sell anything to you. Hey, why not? 10 out of 10.
Why stop at furniture? Exactly. Especially if it's drop shipping. I'm like, that's,
you know, you don't have to worry about like having so many things in your warehouse. Like,
oh, we don't have, we don't have space. They don't even do it. They're just like,
oh, we'll call back up when we sell one of our things and she can send it to them.
That is so cool. Very interesting. Hey, so is Temple and Webster like the next bunny?
I mean, it could be not quite, but they are trying. They're really trying to get a slice
of the same pie, especially with, I guess, people moving more of their online spending
online. A little bit of a caveat, though, the stock has more than doubled, but it's not cheap.
OK, it's trading at a high price to earnings ratio, which means investors are pricing it as
though it's going to have a lot of future growth. So when you look at it, you go, okay, cool. Like
tell me about this share price. They haven't got the revenue to prove it, but I think a lot of
people are like, oh, Temple and Webster is going to take off and they really believe in it. So
that's why they're purchasing it. So if that growth even slows slightly and they don't have
the sales to be consistently backing themselves in the way that they have, the share price could
actually drop and take a hit. And if you're buying now, I would say, sorry, Temple and Webster,
but people are probably paying a premium for your share price. Like, I don't know if I can say this,
but I personally wouldn't be purchasing it at this price. I think it's a little bit overpriced
and I think you're paying a premium for the share and it might take off and you might be absolutely
rewarded for that. But for me right now, that's probably, you know, when you do a price to earnings
ratio, I'm like, that's not making that much sense. That's so smart, VD. Something I know
about you is that you don't act out of urgency. Sometimes I do when I really need a hash brown.
And that's so fair. Yeah. Like I'm just a girl at the end of day. Exactly. But when it comes to
the share market, girl, I am judging you. She's waiting a little bit. You know how like on TikTok,
they say we listen and we don't judge. No, I listen, I judge. And that's what happens in the
share market. And then I'm going to yap about it and tell all my friends. Yeah. Well, someone's
got to. Absolutely. You're doing God's work. Okay. So this last one, I'm, I actually have
heard of this Life360. Yeah. I feel like, I feel like lots of us have heard of Life360. A lot of
Americans use it, which makes sense because it's based in San Francisco. It's a company that is
based over in the US, but it is listed on the Australian Stock Exchange. Okay. So for anyone
who is not familiar with it, it's giving find my friends from iPhone. Yes. But better. So Life360
makes a very popular, what would you call it? Like a family safety app. Yeah. And it lets users
share like real-time locations. It gives you driving alerts. Like it can be like Beck speeding
crazy, right? Oh my God. And it tracks loved ones or pets or your valuables. And it's really big
with parents and caregivers. I said, it's giving, find my friends on iPhone, but like Beck, you
don't have an iPhone. So we couldn't use that, but you and I across different devices could use
life 360 it also tells you when your friend's battery is low so you can do this little prompt
that says charge your phone it's really good i guess if like your friend's going on a date
you can see that they don't have much battery left you're kind of worried you just know to
stick around a little bit yeah yeah that's so good they've also expanded into an area called
connected devices as well so do you remember tile the company that like the tracking device
tile sounds familiar yeah so they own tile okay so they own tile which helps you find your keys
and stuff. Like you can put it on the dog, you can put it on your keys. And they also own GeoBit,
which actually tracks pets and kids using GPS. Which do you know what? I'm sorry. Before I was
a parent, I was like, why would you track your kids? Invasion of privacy. And now I'm like,
so where can I put a tracker? Where can I put the tracker? How do I, do I put it in his shoe?
Do I put it in his pocket? Like what happens if he pulls it out and puts it in the bin?
Just do I hide it in his backpack? Like, girl, I'm going to be crazy. Like this life 360 thing
makes sense to me. And over the last 12 months, they've seen their share price rise by more than
a hundred percent. And in the past five years, Bec, get this, sit down. It's risen more than
a thousand percent. And the reason for this, like if we dive a little bit deeper is they're growing
fast and they've hit profitability for the very first time. Oh, cool. It's crazy. So they haven't
been making profit, but they have been growing. And just because a company doesn't have heaps of
profit doesn't mean they're a bad company. They could be reinvesting all of it back into technology
or staff or advancements. You actually have to look into it. Just because they're not drawing
profit and giving it to shareholders doesn't mean it's a bad company, right? They've actually got
now more than 83 million monthly active users. Okay. That's a lot of people using it. And there
are more than or in and around I'd say 2.4 million paying subscribers wow that's 2.4 million people
subscribing to their platform which I don't know if you know anything about subscriptions but like
business savvy me um that's strong reoccurring revenue every single month 2.4 million people
are paying you I am stuck on they haven't made profit until now and so I'm like how did they
survive like how they're paying their rent well they could have been paying their rent right they
could have been making like let's say they make ten dollars and then operation costs are ten dollars
they're not making profit there's nothing to bring out of the business but maybe every single dollar
that they earned they were finding a way to spend back in okay so sometimes if you have a company
where every single dollar earned is being spent that doesn't mean it's a good spend yeah but now
they've kind of got the numbers to prove it because if you've got 83 million people using your
platform or you know active users and then you've got 2.4 million people paying you monthly
they've clearly been reinvesting into getting more people and drawing that in and now they
might go all right time to sit back time to stop reinvesting and start making profit because
at some point we all just want to make money but they've started making money on their core product
now which obviously as an investor we love that and they're growing revenue by over 30% year on
year. So that's pretty good. Like that's good growth, even while other tech companies are
slowing down. Yeah. Their business model is known what's called as, I don't know,
have you heard of freemium? No, but I can imagine. Yeah. So their business model is known as like a
freemium model, which means that the basic app is free. We love this. It means that there is a lot
of people, as you can tell, because they have 83 million active users, but only 2.4 million pay
them. Yeah. So it means that there's a lot of opportunity to upsell to premium features,
like maybe crash detection on their platform or like driving reports or emergency assistance or
whatnot. So you don't have to pay to use their platform, which I think is nice. You obviously
have to pay to get their product, but you don't have to pay to use their subscription. And their
device ecosystem, I would say is very clever. Like it's pretty smart. Anyway, if you buy a tile
or you buy a Geobit that locks you in even more. It's not just an app anymore. It's like a whole
platform for family safety. Sure. It's kind of cool. That is cool. And I haven't paid for a
subscription, but I feel like I've, I'm getting more than I've bargained for. But like I have
an Oura Ring, right? And I'm obsessed with my Oura Ring, but the thing that annoys me the most
is like, I can't use my Oura Ring unless I pay the monthly subscription. Oh, that is so dumb.
I know.
I don't like it.
And like I love my Aura Ring to bits, but I also kind of go,
maybe I'll change this like one called a Superhuman Ring
that has a free app and I'm kind of like, oh, I'll move off that.
So like I think other consumers feel this way as well.
It should be a free app.
Like we all want a free option and then maybe pay for upgrades.
Totally.
I get that, right?
Like Fitbit, and that is a mozza, that ring.
So it's like you've paid surely, well, and truly.
Anyway, enough about that.
I'm getting angry now.
You know you're mad about it. So what kind of things should we be watching out for right now?
Yeah. So first of all, it's a US company competing with, I would say the US giants.
So it's competing with Apple. It's competing with Google. And I mean, the first thing I did
when trying to explain Life360 to you was like, find my friends on Apple. So clearly there's
competition, but these platforms like Apple and Google, they actually already have these systems
built into their devices. So like find my friends is free for me on my iPhone. So like, why would I
go and get life 360 if there's already a free version on my phone? Yeah. Right. And I think
that having that pre built in location sharing tool might be, I don't know, something that is
a risk for them. So they have to stay ahead by offering better features. Like they're going to
need to be more accurate. They're going to need to build more loyalty. Like they're going to have
to be quite strategic about that. And while their subscriber base is growing, I would say
the valuation is a little bit rich. Like when you break it down, their share price is already
reflecting, I would say very high expectations for performance. Like, yes, it is so cool that
they have increased. Yes, it is so cool that like it's a hundred percent up. Like, and yes,
over five years they've increased a thousand percent like big dogs let's go but i would say
that set high expectations but like we went back to the point that you got a little bit stuck on
before you're like what do you mean they haven't made profit yeah exactly beck exactly so any
sleep in performance or any like slow down in their growth could actually spook the market and
people might start selling and being like i was excited about life 360 now i'm not so i guess
life's 360 they have a really sticky product like once you're in the eco it's like people
who are already in the apple ecosystem yeah so hard to leave so hard to leave i get that but
having a sticky product means they have lots of ways to scale but you have to be comfortable with
the fact that it's still in what i would call growth mode and it's being priced that way yeah
Okay. Okay. So that was, I mean, my biggest takeaway here is that I, not to give advice,
there are a few things on here that I just kind of want to keep my eye on. So we've made it through
this big list of five. What's the big takeaway you want to leave us with? I guess before we wrap,
I want to do another disclaimer because I'm always so anxious talking about share prices and stuff.
But everything you and I have been chatting about today, it's just a little bit of a snapshot in
time, right? It's just a snapshot in time. Past performance is not a reliable predictor of future
performance. And I want to drum that into absolutely everyone. And it's just based on where
markets were when we hit record on this episode today. Like things could change. Like you could
be listening to this episode literally two days after I record it and life 360 could be through
the floor. That's so true. Who knows? So, you know, take everything with a grain of salt. Yes.
Share prices, they move and they move fast. And even in the last week, some of the numbers will
have shifted, right? And that's okay because we're just having a chat about it and we all
have our heads screwed on and you're not going to go make an investment decision based on this
conversation, are you, Bec? No.
Absolutely not. And while a company doubling in value might sound really sexy and it might
sound really impressive, that doesn't actually automatically make it a good investment right now.
Right. You might go, they've doubled. Fantastic. I want to get on that train. Sorry, sit down.
just because you saw the shiny train doesn't mean we need to get on the shiny train you don't even
know where it's going totally maybe it's peak could be overly expensive yeah sorry are we
overpaying for things in 2025 no absolutely not and yes in some ways it could be priced for what
people will hope will happen which is a lot of what we've seen in this episode and it's not what
I actually guaranteed so I mean I'm still a blue chip stock kind of girly and no matter how shiny
something looks back, whether it's gold or tech or furniture or pharmacy, you literally never want
to put all of your investing eggs in one investing basket. Like I'm not going to go buy just
pharmaceuticals. I'm not going to go buy just gold because as we said before, gold performs when the
market's in turmoil. Yes. And we want to spread across everything. We want really good diversification.
Did you just say hedged? Yeah. Get it queen. Get it queen. Thank you. But diversification is the
name of the game, right? We want that. And the goal is to build a portfolio that weathers all
of the different conditions and ultimately helps us create wealth, not just looks shiny and is a
bit clickbaity and, oh my God, I saw this online and I'm going to buy it right now. That's not how
we, we don't chase what's going on in the moment. We get to look at it. We get to be pervy. We get
to watch all the TikToks. We get to have a yap about it. We get to listen to podcasts about it.
It doesn't mean we're buying it. Okay. Yeah, totally. And of course, if picking individual
stocks is not your thing, which it doesn't have to be. I think I've told you guys before pretty
publicly, I'm an ETF girly. She's an ETF girly. I'm an ETF girly. Or if you just don't have time,
there are so many other ways. You too could be an ETF girly. You don't have to keep up with every
market move or you could do what I do. Keep up with every single market move because you're
really interested in it. But in the background, you're actually investing portfolio. Really
vanilla really basic she's a little bit boring but like girl you best believe when i retire
i'm gonna be pretty well i know you're gonna be oh my god i'm gonna be okay you know yeah you're
gonna be okay like i've put myself in a position where i can comfortably say that the coffees will
be on me yeah okay you know and that's the position i think most of us want to be in i will
remember that for 60 years i mean you probably remember it now i don't think we've ever gone
out and have let you pay for a coffee sit down actually that's very true sit down so great tips
as always viddy thank you so much i do try but i do love having a yap about the share market oh god
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of the market too i love this this is so cute it just reminds me that i want to stay in etf
girly like i love the drama i want to talk about it but it's like i'm that type of person who
got i love to hear about the drama but like i don't want to be involved absolutely i want to
hear what your friend did to the hairdresser i don't want to go to the hairdresser you know
If Goss is dropped, if tears spilled in the forest
and no one's around to hear it, did it ever spill?
Exactly.
Is what I'm trying to say.
I know what you mean.
Let's go and actually get a coffee so that that can come out straight
for the next episode.
Good idea.
See you later, guys.
Bye, guys.
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