She's On The Money - Can You Actually Manifest Money? Here’s What Science Says
Episode Date: March 18, 2025We’ve all seen the TikToks... vision boards, affirmations, “just think rich and you’ll be rich!” But does manifestation actually work, or is it just a glorified daydream? Some ...say it’s the secret to success, while others insist that financial freedom comes from strategy, not vibes. So what’s the truth? This week, we’re breaking down the science behind money mindset, manifestation, and what actually moves the needle on your finances. 🧠 Does manifestation really work or is it just luck?🧠 How your mindset influences your financial habits (without you realising it)🧠 The psychology behind money blocks and how to overcome them🧠 The proven strategies that help you attract and grow wealth Whether you’re a full-on manifestation girly or a straight-up skeptic, this episode will make you rethink how you approach money. Can a mindset shift actually change your bank balance? Let’s find out.Want to work on your strategy for building wealth? Our Investing Masterclass is now open for enrollments... come join us here! Starts April 1. Acknowledgement of Country By Natarsha Bamblett aka Queen Acknowledgements. The advice shared on She's On The Money is general in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. She's On The Money exists purely for educational purposes and should not be relied upon to make an investment or financial decision. If you do choose to buy a financial product, read the PDS, TMD and obtain appropriate financial advice tailored towards your needs. Victoria Devine and She's On The Money are authorised representatives of Money Sherpa PTY LTD ABN - 321649 27708, AFSL - 451289.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, my name is Natasha Nabanunga-Bamblett. I'm a proud Yorta Yorta, Kernai, Wolperi and
Awadjeri woman. And before we get started on She's on the Money podcast, I would like
to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land of which this podcast is recorded
on Awadjeri country, acknowledging the elders, the ancestors and the next generation coming
through. As this podcast is about connecting, empowering, knowledge sharing and the storytelling
of you to make a difference for today and lasting impact for tomorrow. Let's get into it.
She's on the money.
She's on the money.
Hello and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast that won't just tell you to think rich,
but will actually show you how to get rich. If you've been on TikTok lately,
you've probably seen people claiming they manifested a dream job, a new car, or even
thousands of dollars. But is this just luck or a mindset shift? Or is there something else
entirely at play? I'm Bex Side and joining me today is the woman who happens to be a finance
expert and have a background in behavioral psychology. So basically, the perfect person
to help us get to the bottom of these questions. I'm so excited about this.
I feel like, oh, Bex, this is something that grinds my gears. And a lot of people are going
to be like, Victoria Devine, what are you doing? Why are you saying manifestation isn't real?
That's going to make a lot of people mad. Especially Jessica Ricci, who we love and
adore and thinks she can manifest things on Facebook marketplace. And I'm all like, yep,
you go queen. Like I'm 10 out of 10 on board with this. I still don't believe that manifestation
is real. I have to say, I feel a bit similar. And I think that like, it can be a self-fulfilling
prophecy if you manifest something. Is it bad that I'm like, oh, it's not real. And so many
people are like oh my god I manifested this I manifested my dream life I manifested a new car
manifested a pay rise like you actually didn't you worked hard you did that you did that you
didn't manifest it and like I'm a very big believer in talking to the universe like growing up my mom
and I used to talk about like oh if you want something like throw it out to the universe
and I love that concept of like you know sharing something because like even when we like look at
the research, right? We know that if you write down a goal, you're more likely to achieve it
because it becomes more real. And I think this concept of manifestation is quite similar. It's
just you actioning plans, but you're giving the credit to someone else other than you.
Yeah, that's true. And I don't like that. I think that we should be proud of what we've done and
what we've achieved because it's not luck. Like you're not a lucky girl. You are actually just
working hard and keeping your eye on the prize. Oh yes. At the start of this episode, I thought
you were going to squash some dreams, but I feel like I've squashed some dreams, but then I'm going
to bring you back up and go, well, actually, babe, it's you and you should be proud of you. And this
is how it works. And this is what it looks like, because I'm not going to give the credit to
someone else. Absolutely. I think at the end of the episode, we'll be like, you know where the
power was all along? Within us. Okay. It's going to be really fluffy. Oh yeah. So before we get too
deep into where the manifestation actually works. Let's define it properly.
Yeah. Sorry, I'm going to ruin that. I feel like we should have done like a hook and then like,
oh, what are these thoughts? I'll tell you after the break. No, I already told you. Sorry,
my ADHD jumped ahead. She's not a mysterious woman. She's going to tell you exactly how she's
feeling. Do you know how many social interactions I go into? And I'm like, wow, I really over
disclosed there. They know my entire personal history. Hey, we love an oversharer. Yeah. Look,
I'm not mad. No. So when people talk about manifesting money, what do they actually mean?
Like it's this concept that your beliefs can shape and create reality. And that's really nice. Like
the concept of this is really good. And the idea is that by simply focusing on something in
particular, it could be like wealth or success or even love. You're able to like attract it into
your life. And I think that that at a crux is true. Like the more you focus on something,
the more likely you are to recognize that and you can attract it into your life, Bec. And
you know, there's a lot to it. I'll tell you in a hot second about my yellow Honda Jazz.
Oh yeah. Okay. Theory. Like that's my theory I have coined, but the idea is actually deeply
rooted in what they call the law of attraction. I think we've all heard of the laws of attraction
and how that works. And that suggests that positive thoughts then bring positive outcomes
while negative thoughts bring negative ones. And this concept has been so popular after the book
and then like subsequent TV series, The Secret came out. I don't know if you've heard of The
Secret. I watched it and I was like, this is hufflepuffle fluff. Like that's not for me,
but I do on a base level think that as individuals, we attract what we are searching for.
we are literally trying to find particular things. It's like confirmation bias, right? And this is
a legit psychological phenomenon where, you know, Bec, you might have a particular political view
and therefore any information I put on the table that disregards that or is in opposition of that,
you're probably going to be like, it's not real. You're probably going to be like, no,
that's not for me. You're also not going to take the time and energy and effort to dive into that
information. But if I present you with some research that further confirms an opinion or
a belief you already hold, you're going to be like, oh, this is legit. I told you it was real.
Yeah. Like I definitely knew that already. So it's a legitimate phenomenon and that's okay.
But confirmation bias exists in human nature. And I think that as human beings, we really love this
concept of manifestation because it is all about attracting more positiveness. And as humans,
we are hardwired to be inherently negative Beck right and I've spoke about this on the podcast
before if we go back to like caveman times it was fight flight like you didn't have like oh I'm
gonna like manifest positive energy like you had to make sure that you had food and water and often
that meant being really aggressive and fighting over that and always planning for the worst like
what winter's coming we need to stockpile things we need to make sure that we are protecting
ourselves that we are warm like all of those basic needs needed to be met and the best way to do that
is with a sense of fear with with a sense of like you know making sure that we have these things
because if you didn't have that sense of fear or you know feel like you needed to control that
how were you going to survive yeah but we flip that we're now in 2025 and most of us have the
privilege of having our basic needs met and i'm saying most of us because i don't want people to
listen to this and be like, well, I don't have that. And that is awful. And that's why I exist.
And I want you to learn and be able to access information that puts you in a different position.
But like most of us have access to safe food, safe water. We have a roof over our heads. You know,
we have secure attachments and we are okay. So now we have the privilege of being able to create a
positive life. It doesn't actually come inherently natural to us. It actually comes as a challenge to
everything we are hardwired to do. So people who are really positive, they've just been practicing
it better. It's kind of like a muscle. It's kind of like having some memory and being able to
flex that muscle and my yellow Honda jazz theory. Bec, when was the last time you saw a bright
yellow Honda jazz? I think I know where you're going. I promise over the next week, you're going
to see so many of them. You are going to see so many yellow Honda jazzes. They are going to be
everywhere you know that bright yellow yeah you're gonna be like not that many people have them that
many people have them but you're not noticing them because you weren't looking for them so if we are
not looking for something we are disregarding it but if we start to go oh I want more positive
energy or I want to really focus on good things that happen to me Beck I'm so fluffy and I have
really been focusing on my mindset and I've been really focusing on you know embracing positive
of things. I literally have a note pinned in my phone and it says, good things happen to me.
And it's a list of things that are good that have happened to me. And I make a conscious effort
to write them down. It could be Zara picked up a coffee on the way to work for me. And that was
really sweet. Or it could be, you know, something really positive. Like I got my dream client,
but it's not about, you know, how big or small they are. It's about making a conscious effort to
reiterate to myself the good things are happening because when I'm reiterating that I'm consistently
looking for more good things to add to the list and therefore my life is becoming more positive
because I'm searching it out Bec. That's beautiful VD. And so it's not just about you know positive
vibes and like that's where I'm at in my journey right now I want to make sure that I'm really
focusing on the positive because when I'm focusing on the positive I am happier and kinder and all of
these other things and I feel like that's the energy I want to be bringing into the room every
day. But you might say, well, I really need to save or I really need to invest. And that's where
we really want to focus on, you know, maybe you have a list and it's like, I'm really good at
saving. And you like make a list of all the good things that you did that are positive steps
towards that savings goal. Yeah. You know, you might, Bec, and I'm going to use you as an example,
be like, oh, V, I didn't buy coffee again today. That might be small to other people, but to you,
like I know that's a lot like you love a coffee oh yeah and I think that it's so important to be
like yeah I actually upheld my savings goal or I you know it was able to chuck an extra five bucks
in there like let's find small good things yeah because we are so used to telling ourselves these
negative stories and we are so used to confirmation bias that and I'm going to use you as an example
again because you've spoken about it before you have said before on this podcast Victoria I'm so
bad at money. Yes. But you're not. Yeah. You're just seeing all the things, but like you have
set up so many cool things this year to put yourself in a better position. Like you have a
new job. You've got a great income. You've started to really prioritize your savings. You have done
all these great things. I would argue that you're not bad at money. You're just not on that journey
and so far down the line that you've got, you know, mass amounts of savings and investment and
whatnot, but like you're investing. Yeah. You're saving your money. I know you're transferring the
money for coffee, like little things in the right direction, but like, you're good at this.
Thank you, BD.
You're not searching for confirmation of that. You are probably so hardwired
to start searching for things that reiterate old you. Like if you hypothetically fell off
the bandwagon and bought a coffee, you'd be like, of course I did. I'm Beck. And that's just what I
do. Instead of going, oh my goodness, I fell off the bandwagon. New Beck wouldn't do that. New Beck
would have xyz and new beck would be celebrating the smaller wins like that are along the way on
the savings journey does that make sense yeah it does so it's not whether you want to be more
positive or manifest you know heaps of savings like beck if you said i'm going to start manifesting
savings i would be like well you're not setting yourself up for success because success actually
has a step-by-step plan yeah right now you're gonna what let somebody else take the credit for
your good change. Huh? No, absolutely not. So I think it's so important to start talking about,
you know, what this actually means for you and all of these manifestation people online who are
like, oh my God, I manifested this. Girl, no, you didn't manifest it. You just wrote down a plan
and then you made that plan happen. How many times have you heard people on TikTok talking about,
I manifested this because I journaled every morning. Girl, you sat down and you reiterated
your goals in the morning so that they would happen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Seriously. That's no
easy feat, but you're not giving yourself credit. You're like letting this fluffier version of,
you know, goal setting guide your reality. And that's so nice, but like vision boarding. Yeah.
That's not manifestation. That's action planning. Yes. That's so true. That's you planning what you
want your dream life to look like so that those steps you're taking every single day are easier
to understand easier to visualize like you know this coffee thing for you if you are literally
cutting coffee and you feel like you're missing out beck but you had this vision board with really
pretty images that reiterated i'm going to go to this festival and i'm going to you know live more
of my dream life and have some savings to go on a holiday with my girlfriend jess like if you saw
that every day would not not reiterate why the plan is working yeah yeah yeah and then you would
be doing those things day to day without even realizing. Literally, it's not, or I don't think
it's manifestation. It's literally, you just did some goal setting and you found a fancy way
to call it manifestation. And we don't need to reach out to a higher being to help us do this
because you're the being that does it. Exactly. The power is within you. Okay. So TikTok says
you can just think your way to wealth. Oh yeah, absolutely. I've been thinking real hard. You've
been thinking real rich. But I still have like $17 right now. You haven't manifested hard enough.
That's the problem, I think.
I haven't been manifesting and thinking hard enough.
Yeah.
What does science say and can they answer the one burning question,
which is why am I not rich?
Look, let me try and answer that.
I guess from a scientific and behavioural perspective,
manifestation, quotation marks, is when we're engaging
in a series of, I guess, psychological and neurological processes.
I'm done with that.
it's actually how our brains filter information, which influences our behavior, which then shapes
the way that we make decisions. And we are reinforcing the ones that we want to keep
and not reinforcing the ones that we don't want to keep. So like we are reinforcing processes
that are stepping in the right direction. And I guess if we look at the process of what actual
manifestation looks like or how it can work is you're kind of like priming your brain so that
you are now noticing more bright yellow Honda Jazzes. You are now noticing more money related
opportunities. You are now, you know, consistently filtering information or manifesting what you want
to focus on. Like you are actively trying to seek out the thing you want more of. And that's really
cool. So I guess if you said RV, you know, why aren't I rich yet? Don't know how to answer that
yet for you, Bec, but I do know how to say, I want to get richer. That's fantastic. You're going to
start manifesting or you're going to start prioritizing the question of like, I want to
increase my income. And you're consistently looking for opportunities to do that. And your
brain is going to start highlighting, you know, maybe a new job opportunity because that would
increase your income. Maybe, you know, salary discussions and you're maybe searching out content
online for that. Maybe you are looking at investment opportunities or even like you're
more likely to leap to doing some short things on the weekend. Like I know that you do like
little jobs here and there for your friends and family. Like you might be more willing to take
that on because you're like, yeah, I want more money. Like I'm manifesting that. So then this
job felt like, oh, you're manifesting it. But if somebody else had asked you, oh, Beck on the
weekend, could you give me a hand doing this? I'll give you 50 bucks. You might've been like,
oh, it's not really worth it. Like CBF, like I'm doing something else. But if you're really
focused on making some money but like oh I was saying this week that I wanted to make more money
and then this opportunity manifested itself into my life for Saturday yeah yeah yeah like you're
seeing things differently and the reason for this is RAS so RAS is the reticular activating system
and it basically acts as like a little gatekeeper like they're the doorman and they are prioritizing
what you think is important and bringing it in and then also being like nope you're not wearing
any shoes you can't come in the pub like and kicking things out really quickly so we're not
even considering them so it's so important because by having this system and it's not you actually
having to do this this is actually how your brain works we're actually strengthening our belief in
what is and isn't achievable which ultimately is going to boost your confidence like and we need
to reiterate these behaviors right like I would argue again using you as an example that you're
more confident with money now. And it doesn't mean that you have millions in the bank, but it means
that you're probably more likely to make smaller money decisions with less stress because we are
really focusing on that positive stuff. But it wasn't manifestation. It was you creating a plan
and starting to reinforce that the plan is working because you're working on it. And that actually
means that you're changing your narrative and you're not bad at money. Thank you, VD. But that
is for everybody. That's not just a Beck thing. That's all of us. I was doing a live webinar last
night and I was talking to a whole heap of people about like budget and cashflow and just, we're not
giving ourselves enough credit for the small wins because I think so often we're comparing ourselves
to other people who are close to us who might be better at money. And I know you've mentioned
before, oh, my girlfriend's really good at money. So your benchmark might actually be however many
savings your girlfriend has sure and then you look at yours and go I'm crap in comparison
but like that's not true like you are on your journey and she's on hers and she might be like
50 hours into the road trip and you're like half an hour in and then you're like why aren't I
further like because you haven't done the driving yet Beck yeah like you've got to spend the time
doing it and these small steps in the right direction one day you look back and go oh my
goodness I drove from Melbourne to Queensland like that's wild but it didn't feel that way
Yeah. So I think it's so important to really embrace this because if you're truly believing
that you are capable of building wealth, then you're more likely to step into places that
help you do that. You're more likely to negotiate a pay rise. You are more likely to apply for a
higher paying job. You're more likely to stop yourself when you want to dip into your savings
because you're like, no, that's not worth it because it's not in line with what my bigger
goal is or what I'm trying to achieve and why? The placebo effect. Yeah. Literally the placebo
effect. I love a placebo. It shows that belief alone can change your legit psychological and
behavioral responses. Placebo is effective. There is legitimate research that essentially takes one
person, Bec, and another person. They're both like, I have a bit of a headache. One of them
gets Panadol, the other gets a Smartie, but they're told it's Panadol. They both have no headache
after it. Yes. Like that's how I want my money to work. I want you to tell me I can do it. And then
I want to inherently believe it. And if that means I'm eating a Smartie, I don't mind. It's like
those melatonin gummies, like, you know, the ones that you have at night to help you sleep. I don't
know if they work. I actually don't. Will I continue to take them? Absolutely. They're just
part of my little process right now and I believe that they help me sleep better. I don't even care
if you say that they don't work. No. Because they are working for me. Absolutely. The other night I
actually rolled over and I took an ibuprofen thinking it was a little one of my sleeping
helpers and then I drifted off into the most beautiful deep sleep and then I woke up in the
morning it was ibuprofen that I turned around I was like oh my god I didn't even have one but I
had the most restful sleep of my life. How good is that? If you believe you can achieve. If you
believe you can achieve you gotta trick yourself you gotta trick yourself like gaslight gatekeep
girl boss exactly do it to yourself not to others exactly and i think that that way right we're
creating an action orientated mindset like we are actively trying to work towards this like
and manifestation when we start talking about these genuine psychological phenomenons and we
are starting to talk about you know the science behind the placebo effect and all of that you go
well manifestation that's a bit of fluff I'm a research girly like I am not the type of girl
that is going to be like oh yes I'm gonna skip down the road and have my green smoothie and
manifest my dream life like sorry that's not for me and that is so fine if it is for you
one of my best friends does that and I love it for her and she's like you're gonna think it's
bullshit but yeah I am but also love you love that this works for you exactly and I think that that
way. It's about making decisions in line with our goals and giving ourselves credit for that. Not
being like, yeah, I really manifested that. Like, no girl, you created a plan. You didn't just think
it into fruition. You worked hard for that to come to fruition. And I guess when we quote manifest,
we can use affirmations like I am a rich man. I am financially successful and I'm not being
facetious that's you psychologically reiterating to yourself a narrative that you want to become
true and if you write it down if you speak it if you consistently prioritize it that will become
your truth yes that will become your reality because that is your focus someone said someone
offers you a cigarette at a party yeah this is very maybe not relevant to everyone i've been
offered a cigarette at a party one time beck exactly and there's definitely a difference
I'm a cool girl.
You're cool.
You're cool.
Thank you.
And you always say yes.
Oh, I'm a yes man.
And if you say I'm not a smoker versus I'm trying not to smoke,
then that changes something.
It changes something because that's actually not in line with my values.
Yeah, like if you're like I'm trying not to smoke.
The other one's leaving the door open.
Yes.
It's like I am a smoker but I'm not.
I'm trying not to run out.
But I'm not a smoker.
It's kind of like there really is power in words.
100% there is and I'm going to flip it back to finance
but this applies to your cigarette example.
but like there are studies on financial growth mindset and they show us that people who believe
that they can improve their financial situation they take more proactive steps towards their
wealth because confidence makes us more likely to take financial risks it means we're maybe going
to start a business or we might be happy to start investing or we might ask for a pay rise
but by doing this and by believing that we can like we are actually going to achieve that and
That's why whenever people say, I'm not good at money, I'm like, you stop that right now. Like
you stop, because that is not a thing. Like there's no such thing as people who are bad with
money. Like there are people who currently are not managing money in line with their values.
There are people who are currently managing money in a way that they aren't happy with.
We can change all of that, but bad at money. Like what's that even mean? Like bad at it?
No, absolutely not. You're adding an emotion to a tool. And right now, you know, you might be in
massive consumer debt and you're like, V, I am pretty bad at money. But like, yep, well, actually
the reality of that situation is all you did was spend more than you earned. We just had an
imbalance. Yeah, let's fix it. And I think that by doing that, you're giving yourself permission
to not perpetuate this negative loop. Like, I want to break that. Like, I don't want to hear
anyone saying they're bad at money. You're listening to a money podcast. You can't be that
bad at it. You're clearly open to having this conversation. Do you know how many people
until they're 80 bury their heads in the sand about finance yeah and it detriments every single
part of their life like they can't afford the cigarettes at the party beck god how do you offer
someone a cigarette at a party if you can't afford to buy the deck afford them like a thousand dollars
now oh my god like i'm kind of glad because i don't want you guys literally getting cancer like
yeah you know how i feel about that oh yeah and that's fine but like also you do you like i'm all
about giving you the education yep you being able to weigh up the pros cons make a decision that's
in line with your values that's it like how bad would it be if you didn't know that information
existed like I feel like this is going back to like when my grandpa sorry pop he's not around
anymore he was like smoking from when he was 14 yeah yeah and like that was really positive for
him like he would smoke at school like he would do all of that and that was really normal and then
he did quit, but according to him, it wasn't that bad because he never got cancer from it.
So according to him, it was absolutely fine. But growing up, he didn't have any of the education
and the privilege of knowledge that we have to make decisions in line with our values in the
same way that we do today. Same goes with money. Like if he wasn't able to access financial
information or anyone wasn't able to access financial information right now, you could
Google it. I have 700 free episodes to help you be really good with money. God, she's good. You're
doing God's work. I'm trying. I'm trying, but you're not bad with money. Okay. End of story.
Yes. We have to stop saying that right now. So manifestation kind of works, but not because
the universe is rewarding your good vibes, but just because your brain starts working in a way
that makes financial success more likely. A hundred percent. And I think that that is
really sexy, but it is a choice. It's not some fluffy thing where you're letting it, you know,
be up to the universe. As I said before, my mom and I used to say, oh my gosh, ask the universe.
Do you know what I do still? Like, don't get me wrong. I do fluffy things. I know they're not
real though. Like maybe I need to buy more into it because like the placebo effect would have a
higher value. I still believe in parking karma, Bec. Like if you let people merge in front of
you like that's like getting some points that go towards you being allowed to like get a really
good spot at the supermarket yeah okay and like if we turn into a car park anyone who's ever been
in the car with me I go hey Bec we're gonna have parking karma today aren't we and you have to say
yeah and if you say no I'll be like Bec you're ruining it you're ruining the vibes we need
positive vibes like I need you to also be on this train like we both deeply believe we are
gonna get a good park yeah yeah yeah never not had a good park wow I'm gonna try that we always
belief. If you tell yourself something, you're more likely to spot it. Obviously parking is
really fluffy, but I think it's so important to also give ourselves credit because I can say I
manifested a car park. Well, you didn't manifest a pay rise. You worked hard for that pay rise.
You put time and energy and effort into researching it. You improved your confidence.
So walking in the door wasn't overwhelming. Like you did that. Let's just leave manifestation for
car parks and then yeah we work really hard for positive things that happen in our lives yes we
made a plan manifestation hard work well i think let's go to a really quick break and absorb all
this information welcome back everyone okay so v we're going straight back into it manifestation
law of attraction is there a downside could ever backfire i'm assuming like oh my gosh i had to do
some research because I'm like, I don't see how this could backfire if we are creating a plan and
working towards it. But there's actually a study from the University of Queensland that found
people who strongly believe in manifesting wealth were more likely to take financial risks for get
rich quick schemes, join multi-level marketing companies and maybe go bankrupt. So that's not
that positive Beck, but I think that that is a reflection of your trust and we need to guard our
trust very tightly. Like I was actually watching a TikTok the other day and someone said like those
who trust easier or like, you know, are super kind and super easy to get along with to begin with
are actually easier to manipulate. And those are the people that are going to get taken advantage
the most because you just immediately trust other people and that's so fine but that's why often
people will say oh the nice people always get taken advantage of like yes because they genuinely
believed that you had the same intentions as they did and those intentions were really pure
like I've heard so many times people might say oh Vy I can't believe they took advantage of me I
just didn't see it coming it's like that's awful that that happened but that is actually a reflection
of them and not of you because you would never have done this. So you would just assume everybody
else wouldn't do this. So why would you think about it? Exactly. The tension always falls on
the person who is taken advantage of and never like, oh, isn't it weird that really awful people
take advantage? They always say, oh, isn't it weird that nice people always get taken advantage of?
Let's put our attention on the meanies. So we need to protect ourselves as well and make sure
that our goals are in line with our values. I think in the finance world, like I have met so
many people that have a sense of urgency. I have a sense of urgency for you, Bec, and that is for
you to get your stuff together. It's not to see a financial advisor, get a professional involved,
pay for something. If somebody is ever trying to get you to part with your money on a time crunch,
they, I promise, don't have your best interests at heart. They have theirs. Whether that is a sale
email in your inbox and that email is being like, oh my gosh, 24 hours to go. Like you better get
in, otherwise you might miss out. They don't care if you personally missed out. They're trying to
reach their sales targets. That was always about them and never about you. That's very true. And
the same is true for finance products. The same is true for multi-level marketing companies. The
same is true for, you know, going and taking additional financial risks without weighing up
the pros and cons. Like you need to do your research as well. Like don't just trust what
somebody says. And that's one of the reasons why, you know, I obviously have heaps of free resources
is on my website, but I will always tell you, go to the Money Smart website. It's non-biased. I
didn't write it. It's going to reiterate what I'm saying and it's going to put you in a good
position because I don't want you to just trust me. Like I would love for that because I know I
have your best interests at heart, but I need you to go to market. I need you to see lots of other
things and know that what I'm saying is going to put you in a better position because I want you
to manifest that. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So V, we know that manifestation can be helpful,
but only when it's backed by action. So how do we actually use manifestation in a way that works?
All right. So if we want to use manifestation and goal setting to our advantage, I did a bit
of research and there is a science-backed technique called WHOOP. WHOOP. WHOOP. I don't
know. Do you say WHOOP? WHOOP. I don't know. Oh yeah. But you can pick whatever you're more
comfortable with, but it's honestly from all of my research and what I've been looking into,
I was like, I'm going to find a really good plan. Like I'm not about things that aren't
science backed. And it's so funny because I sometimes like to engage in them because they're
fun. So, you know, like the Myers-Briggs typology indicator. Yes, yes, yes. So we do that in our
office and it's beautiful. It's so fun. Like I love doing the personality quiz, like my team and
I, we all have very similar personalities. So we're all talking about that and we're like,
oh my God, we're so similar. But like that is as legitimate as astrology and your horoscope
that's written in the weekly paper like that has absolutely no scientific backing but sometimes
they're fun but I really wanted to find you a science-backed technique to I guess implementing
manifestation and implementing goal setting in a way that hopefully makes sense but also puts you
in the best possible position to have literally your best year yet so if you want to turn
manifestation into genuine finance progress, we're going to WHOOP. WHOOP stands for wish.
What's your financial goal? What is your wish? Let's write that down. Outcome. Why does this
goal matter? Like what's the outcome? Like you want to be better at money, but why? If you don't
know the answer to that, like if you have a wish and you don't have a reason why you want to achieve
that, going to fall off the bandwagon real quick. Obstacle, what challenges might actually stop you
from achieving this? And then plan. So how are you going to overcome those challenges? So this was
developed by Dr. Gabrielle Otengi, a psychologist who actually spent 20 years researching how people
turn their dreams into action. Wow. She did the hard work for us. What an icon. Why don't you
have a big book that's like really popular? Cause that's a lot of time to spend on that. And like
So many of us want to turn our dream into action.
You got 20 years of research?
Yeah.
Speak up louder.
I know.
But what she found, Bec, was just visualizing success is not enough.
Like you can't just say you manifest it and think about it all the time.
Sure.
The people who actually achieve their goals are consistently positive thinkers about most
things, but they are also strategic thinkers.
So they are thinking about their plan.
They are thinking about what might get in the way.
they are thinking about how they're going to achieve this they're creating a little
outline of what steps they need to take it's not just positive thoughts and vibes will carry you
absolutely and this is the thing is that like i feel like there's definitely a difference between
toxic positivity and i do tell my friends this when they're like no good vibes only i'm like
no there's we're allowed to admit that there are negative vibes space for negativity space for
sadness space for all the other emotions when it comes to yourself in your own life it actually
matters what your internal monologue is. And if you're just being kind to yourself and I am already
feeling empowered or not even at the end of this episode yet, but I do feel like it helps, right?
Cause I'm all about positive thinking. I'm the same. I hate toxic positivity. Like you're going
to have bad days at work and I want you to feel comfortable telling me about those bad days.
I want you to feel heard. I want your emotions validated because once they're validated,
we can move on from them because you go, yeah, you're right. That is exactly why I feel that
way and this is how this works. And then, oh, but I don't want to focus on it. What I want to focus
on is X, Y, or Z. So I think it's just so important to kind of have the mix and have both. So I guess
to recap, the WHOOP method is wish, outcome, obstacle, and plan. And I think that by doing
that, we could quote manifest way better. Okay. I love this. Honestly, I'm quite hopeful. I
genuinely will try this. So Vy, what's the takeaway from this all? Does manifestation
actually work? I feel like I ruined it at the start of the episode by saying it was bullshit,
but that's okay. It can work, but only if you are doing it right with a whole heap of other
things around it. Like thinking rich is great, but that's not going to make you rich. But thinking
ahead is what's actually going to build wealth and create the life that you deserve. And the
best way to manifest money ultimately is let's set clear goals. We need to believe in ourselves.
We need to reframe our thinking and we are not shitty at money. We are actually really good at
money and we are just learning and we are at the start of our journey. So I feel like being able to,
I guess, change your mindset is going to literally shift your money habits. Ultimately, that means
more money in your bank account and you will start creating real wealth. I am really looking forward
to this I hope that you know whoever's listening if you're driving don't do this but if you're not
driving you're sat or you're standing just start writing this stuff down let's start with the whoop
method actually no I'm going to start with the Honda Jazz okay yeah we're going to look for the
Honda Jazz's and then you're going to be like damn V was right probably should listen to that episode
again and start quote manifesting properly exactly also can you DM me your pictures of the yellow
Honda Jazz because like I used to get those and then they fell off because I mentioned it so long
ago but like you see a Honda Jazz I'm gonna need a picture of that to reiterate that my theory is
a legitimate theory not some you know hippy dippy horoscope all right guys if you have loved this
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