She's On The Money - Mo-Money, Mo-Manchild?

Episode Date: May 4, 2023

Join us to celebrate Friday with as we share your money wins and losses, answer a juicy Money Dilemma all about travel insurance and credit cards. PLUS, does your other half share the same financial ...goals as you? If not, is that reason to call it quits? Hear what the gals, AND our community have to say about it! Acknowledgement of Country By Natarsha Bamblett aka Queen Acknowledgements. The advice shared on She's On The Money is general in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. She's On The Money exists purely for educational purposes and should not be relied upon to make an investment or financial decision. If you do choose to buy a financial product, read the PDS, TMD and obtain appropriate financial advice tailored towards your needs.  Victoria Devine and She's On The Money are authorised representatives of Money Sherpa PTY LTD ABN - 321649 27708,  AFSL - 451289.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, my name is Natasha Nabanunga-Bamblett. I'm a proud Yorta Yorta, Kernai, Wolperi and Awadjeri woman. And before we get started on She's on the Money podcast, I would like to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land of which this podcast is recorded on Awadjeri country, acknowledging the elders, the ancestors and the next generation coming through. As this podcast is about connecting, empowering, knowledge sharing and the storytelling of you to make a difference for today and lasting impact for tomorrow. Let's get into it. She's on the money. She's on the money.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Hello and welcome to the Property Playbook. Oh no, we're she's on the money. That just launched this week. Wrong one. The podcast for millennials who want financial freedom. Today, my friends, is Friday, which means it is time to get the team together and celebrate you and the launch of the Property Playbook. Because we are just so excited in this office about how excited you guys are about this. So today we're going to be sharing our favorite money tips and tricks. We're going to be helping to answer a juicy money dilemma, which this week is all about credit card travel insurance and we're going to be unpacking something that you slid into our DMs about which this week is all about financial priorities in relationships which I think will
Starting point is 00:01:36 be a good one. Guys, Bec, how's your week been? Week has been absolutely superb. Oh that's a good answer. That's a very passionate answer. I just you know I had a great weekend which led into a fantastic week just chilling just grilling just seeing mates and feeling good chilling like a villain yeah so i'm going back to the gym oh which i'm very happy about i hate the gym one out of ten honestly i don't i don't hate it anymore oh why how do i change my mindset i'd love to be fitter yeah those endorphins you got to focus on the endorphins i do by eating chocolate and watching movies and talking to my dog that's a really good way to do it but if you stop focusing on cardio i I mean, this is not a financial podcast.
Starting point is 00:02:20 I'm sorry, a fitness podcast. It is a financial podcast. If you stop focusing on cardio because cardio is objectively awful and just do muscle training, oh, my God, my world has opened up. You can just lift heavy stuff. Yeah. That's empowering too. I like to think of the gym as my personal runway.
Starting point is 00:02:35 That's how I make it fun. Cute out there every day. Cute. Cute. I love that. I won't be doing that though. Neither of you have succeeded in convincing me that I want to go back to the gym. We'll try that next time.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Miss Jessica Ricci, how's your week been? Oh, my gosh. I've had the best week ever. The property playbook, if you didn't know already, launched, which was exciting and overwhelming because I got to be the host this season. Yay! It kind of made sense though, because like you're a budding first home buyer. I feel like you have a million questions and also you're kind of the voice of the community in a way. Your talent baby. Exactly. I'm right there in the trenches with you guys and everyone has been so lovely. I was
Starting point is 00:03:13 really really nervous because I've never you did so well I've never been the main host do you mean like normally I'm just here I'm just the main character now guys main character energy but I was really excited but also very stressed and everyone has just been so kind and so lovely but I'm worried because in the episodes we obviously always go oh please leave us a review but the problem I didn't think about is there's a delay on the reviews so I'm like I know that they're coming but we haven't seen them yet because we asked them so I hope that people like them and they left nice reviews but there's a part of my anxious self that's like they hate you they're awful they're gonna be like kick her off the show not one person is gonna say that because honestly
Starting point is 00:03:54 you shouldn't be reading the reviews to begin with miss Jessica Ricci how many times have we talked about this how many times have I been like don't read the reviews because some people are really nice which is so beautiful to see but then there's that one percent some people are mean yeah but like why are people on the internet so mean like why it makes no sense like who goes and reviews someone's podcast and says and they do this right so like maybe i'm just taking the mickey victoria's voice is so annoying don't listen to my podcasts then yeah don't listen it's a choice to be here and like maybe give us some you know constructive feedback be like oh hey this happens on the podcast and our listening experience would be better if you xyz great that's
Starting point is 00:04:37 Stunning. We love that. I can't change my voice, babe. Tell me things I can change. Yeah. Constructive feedback is welcome. Kind feedback, even more welcome. So hopefully this time next week we'll have some nice reviews.
Starting point is 00:04:50 But until then. Just be nice. I'll be a little stressy. That's okay. It's very exciting. Imagine being somebody who actually wants to get on and say mean things about other people and be like, oh, Beck's stinky. Like someone did say, Beck is boring, has no vibe.
Starting point is 00:05:02 And I cried for five days. Wait, did you read the reviews? I should know. I should know. I shouldn't have. But so basically, but I'd say. Well, it's not your fault you have no personality. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:05:12 It's not my fault I have no personality. Do you know what I've noticed? People are much more inclined to leave, and it's not just podcasting, it's website reviews, it's anything. People are much more inclined to leave feedback when it's negative and much less inclined to leave feedback when it's positive. It's true. Which I think is really interesting.
Starting point is 00:05:28 There's more emotion attached to negative energy than there is positive energy, which kind of sucks. But it's also the way that it's interpreted, right? Like you said the negative things about you. Bec, you also said the same things. Do you know how many beautiful reviews we've had about you? Like people love you. We've had beautiful podcast reviews.
Starting point is 00:05:46 I've had people messaging me on Instagram. I've had emails being like, Bec was great. Thank you so much. People love you. I love her. You know that because I've shown you that, but all you're caring about is the negative review. True.
Starting point is 00:05:57 No, I do love her. Sometimes I see little comments. But anyway, this is not about me. This is about Jessica Ricci and the Property Playbook. It is. And there will be no negative feedback if there is. and don't worry about those people. I can't even delete it so you guys don't see it.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Like I want to be like in protective mode and be like, I'll just remove that before she sees it. But you can't remove them so then you bloody idiot go and read it and then you'll go, I feel really down because some idiot on the internet told me I was stinky. Like what? Well, we're manifesting positive vibes. We are.
Starting point is 00:06:26 If you haven't listened to the Property Playbook, we are so excited that we are back with the new season and this season we have Property Diaries as a fun new episode we're talking to people about how they got into their property. I'm asking the juicy questions. How much did they earn? Did they get any help from their parents? Like we are getting the facts and only the facts so that you don't feel bad and you can learn everyone has a different journey. And we've basically with the property playbook wiped the slate clean because 2023 buying a property is very different to 2021 buying a property. So we just wanted to make sure that
Starting point is 00:06:56 you had every single piece of education at your disposal, but like really relevant education, because since we recorded the 2021 edition of the Property Playbook, like the first time super savers game, it's gone from $30,000 up to $50,000. And if you go listen to those old episodes, they're outdated. You might learn something and it's not inaccurate for the time it was published, but like, I don't want you guys to be in a position where you have outdated information. So basically just been like, all right, if you were starting today, fantastic. So if you've already listened to that season, that's fantastic. All of this content is new and fresh. But if you've never joined us on the Property Playbook, it's basically like starting
Starting point is 00:07:32 from the start anyway. All right. We need to get into the actual podcast because all we're doing is talking about a different podcast and that actually makes no sense. But Miss Jessica Ricci, it is time for our Community Money Wins and Confessions. What have you got for us this week? Well, I'll start off with one that's on theme, a property money win from Sarah. That's very self-indulgent, isn't it? She said, money win. I talked to our broker and figured out that I don't need to be in full-time employment to purchase a house in September, which means that I can still stay home with my child a few days a week. Oh, how good. The power of talking to a broker, it really can change. We talk about it all the time. If you guys want to talk to a broker
Starting point is 00:08:08 who basically is us, Jess, go and talk to the Zella Money team because I feel like so many people are very apprehensive. They're like, I'm not ready. Go talk to them if you're not ready. Yeah. They'll tell you when to come back. They'll help you figure out your timeline. It's chef's kiss, would recommend. 10 out of 10. What's the next one? Next money win comes from Marley who said money win. I used my Macca's rewards points to treat myself
Starting point is 00:08:28 to a free McFlurry. 10 out of 10. Okay. In this economy, that is a good win. I love that. McFlurries are getting expensive too. Oh, I know. A penny saved is a penny earned, they say.
Starting point is 00:08:38 McDonald's, we need to talk as well because they don't even mix the McFlurries anymore. Where's the flurry? It's just a Sunday with M&M's on top. Hungry Jacks, I think. Boycott, boycott. moving right along before we start a riot in the office we're gonna be sued charlotte don't even need it charlotte said money win we got our electricity bill last week and it was only
Starting point is 00:08:58 82 for the quarter as we got our solar panels installed and turned on and that's for three adults in a house how good is that wow also hot solar panel tip that i got from glenn james from my millennial money because i watched his stories over the weekend last weekend it's coming into winter, so obviously there's less sun in winter, clean your solar panels so they absorb more energy because if there's like dirt and stuff on top of them, they don't like absorb as much energy as they could. So get up there with some dishwashing liquid, give it a scrub and your energy bill is going to thank you. Brilliant. That's great. You're welcome. I'm not going to get on the roof. If I had solar panels, I wouldn't do that, but it's a good tip. Very good tip. My
Starting point is 00:09:37 next one comes from Lucy who said, I got an Apple tag for free thanks to my Medibank rewards points. I've now got one very happy tracked cat. Oh, how good. I've got trackers on my cats too. 10 out of 10. I just snoop on them during the day. I would never have thought that you would get something like that on your Medibank points. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:09:56 You've got a point system. It pays to check if they've added fun new things. It's like the AIA Vitality Program. Like you get so many good discounts and benefits from that if you like track in the app. And it's actually really worth it. Incredible. Last money win I have this week is from Jess who says, money win, I adopted a fabulous furry friend for $0 in adoption fee.
Starting point is 00:10:18 It frees up the budget I'd allocated for a new puppy and marks guilt-free wardrobe shopping for this cool dude. His name is Rory Kent for any Ted Lasso fans out there. No, yes, that's the best. I love Ted Lasso. Is there a picture? There is a picture. He's very cute.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Look at him. The two of them together. Oh, my gosh, hi, baby. He looks like Ted Lasso. Oh, my gosh, is he a greyhound? I am not going to be. I think he might be. Show me, show me, show me.
Starting point is 00:10:40 And I was going to say, for anybody who is looking for a money win in Melbourne. Oh my gosh, he is a greyhound. She went, that's the greyhound adoption day. I was going to say, if you follow us on Instagram, you'd be up with the adoption thing because our beautiful team member, Gabby, fostered a greyhound named Lychee. And he was actually the best dog. He was a really sweet little honey pie and he was obviously up for adoption. He'd been up for adoption for a really long time, needed a bit of fostering, and he got
Starting point is 00:11:06 adopted this week, which was awesome. but the event that he was adopted from was run by Gap Greyhound Adoption Program and they were doing the same thing. So they were giving away dogs so they could have beautiful new homes and they have lots left. So if anybody is after a dog. Yeah, not all of them got adopted. No.
Starting point is 00:11:22 And Gabby has a greyhound. She wanted two so she wanted to keep Lychee but we were talking about this in this economy. She can't adopt Lychee but also she's in a rental. She was like it's already hard enough with one dog. Like two dogs is just going to be too much so she fosters. but oh my gosh they're the best dogs honestly I asked Steve if we could add one to the family and he was like Victoria you already have two cats and one dog stop asking for more
Starting point is 00:11:45 so I'm working on it but please do it on my behalf yeah absolutely and it's a great tip from Jess your local shelters are a fantastic place to find yourself a little furry companion for an incredibly low price or often even free and you're doing some good by giving a little animal in your home 100% I love that that's so wholesome that's very wholesome that's a good place to leave it, Jess. Let's go to a really quick break. I'm going to go go pictures of dogs. And then on the flip side, we're going to be discussing credit card, travel insurance and how to manage financial priorities in relationships. So don't go anywhere, guys. Welcome back, everybody. Let's take a listen to this week's Money Dilemma.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Hi there. Have you got a money dilemma you just can't solve? The She's on the Money team is here to help. Every week, we tackle your dilemmas, both big and small, to answer your most burning money, career and life questions. To get involved, simply head to our website and leave us a short voice recording and you might just find yourself on the show. Now, let's take a listen to this week's money dilemma. Hi, she's on the money. Love your podcast. I'm just getting in touch because I'm about to take nine months career break and travel and have a fabulous time. And I have been weighing up the benefits of instead of getting travel insurance policy, getting a credit card with included travel insurance that has a high points bonus so that I can leverage the points for some of the travel and the cost of the credit card would kind of be balanced out against the cost of an insurance policy that I'm not getting. I'd love to hear your thoughts on pros, cons, considerations, whether you think I'm being a massive idiot.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Thank you. This is your favorite subject. Oh, my gosh. I don't think anyone's ever a massive idiot. Arguably, you're one of the most intelligent people in the community because you know to ask the pros, which is Jess and Bec. So, guys. Exactly. Let's take it away, Jess. Off you go back. What do you reckon? Well, I think that you are doing a good job.
Starting point is 00:13:46 I was going to say, she's on the right track. I feel like she has consciously thought about the cost-benefit analysis. Yeah, she's gone, okay, my credit card has a fee on it. I can potentially offset that fee by saving on an insurance policy that I have to get. Savvy queen. Queen, savvy queen. The only thing that I'm not super across as someone who hasn't had a credit card for a very long time is how comprehensive do you think travel insurance that's included in a credit card is? And VD, I feel like you're going to be the person who knows the most here. Yeah, a bit negative on this topic. Thanks for asking. Thanks for asking. I think it's
Starting point is 00:14:19 really smart, right? Like I would prefer you to have free travel insurance through your a credit card, then no travel insurance at all, right? So like anything is better than nothing. And credit card travel insurance is basically an insurance policy that you get, which is included with the premiums of your credit card. It's a very big misconception that every single credit card will come with a travel insurance policy. So make sure you're not just assuming, you're actually looking into it. And also, I think we need to really tap into the fact that if that's why you're getting a credit card. I mean, the points thing aside, you do you, work out what works for you, because that can be quite lucrative for some people. But a credit card in the wrong
Starting point is 00:14:58 hands can actually be really detrimental. And while this travel insurance might be marketed as free or like complimentary, these policies are typically paid through your annual fees anyway. So if you're only signing up for the travel insurance and there's a credit card with no fees on it that gives you access to points, maybe that might be better. And having a standalone policy that you've gone and got for that particular trip. So there's a few things that I would look at when looking at complimentary travel insurance. The first thing is a lot of them will exclude a lot of things because it's complimentary, right? You just think of it as like the base level. One size fits all. Yeah, exactly. It's one size fits all. So like if you're going to New Zealand,
Starting point is 00:15:41 for example, might not include snow sports or something that you want to be covered for. So we need to look into that. It might not include you driving a vehicle. So it might mean that just, yep, you're fine to go. But also if you drive, it's nil and void. It might not cover up to the amount of cover that you want to have. So say your luggage is worth $10,000 and maybe they only cover up to $2,000 for luggage. If in that circumstance that your luggage gets lost, that's actually a very big difference, right? And these things add up, right? Like if I said, oh, Bec, your bag could be worth $10,000. You'll be like, no, V, it's not. I promise you, all of those things add up from the expensive jumpers you might own to your iPhone to charges,
Starting point is 00:16:23 like all these things really add up. And if you're anything like Miss Jessica Ricci, you don't go anywhere without your Dyson Airwrap. That's an easy $800 these days. And you don't travel light either. No. Even if your clothes, you know, average $40 to $50, if you've got 10 of those, that's already $500 right there. Not even how much they cost you to buy, because you might go and get a good t-shirt, really great quality, you've saved up for it, but then you found it on sale. If you have to replace that here and now because you have no clothes anymore, like that's going to usually be a higher premium. Don't get me started on the people like me who are very invested in their skincare and makeup routines. I don't want to think about how much my makeup bag costs me. Like that makes me a little bit sick, but there's a few things that we need to take into consideration, right? so if you went and got a standalone policy more often than not they might be underwritten by an underwriter and most credit card policies like they're underwritten by the same companies that
Starting point is 00:17:17 you would go and get a policy from but they're more of a group policy and they have less bells and whistles you could say you might not as we said before be covered for any of the activities you want to do so as I said skiing or driving or you know going on a scooter in Bali like there are so many things, it might actually cost you more than a standalone policy. So like your annual credit card fees, let's say it's 400 bucks and you're going on a trip to Bali for 10 days, your insurance and a good quality insurer is very likely to be less than $400. And if you're only going on one holiday a year, but you're paying for the credit card to get the travel insurance, that's actually a money loss because the intention actually cost you more money than actually,
Starting point is 00:17:58 you know, working it all out. But then there are also exclusions of different countries. So you might look at your policy and go, I really want to go to the US, not included. So it just pays to do your research. Am I saying it's the worst? Absolutely not. It might work really well for you. But from my perspective, I'm the type of person who likes super comprehensive travel insurance. We did that episode recently on the cost of care with my friend Rianne and Tracy, who became a quadriplegic after diving into a pool in Bali, stone-cold sober. She was just having a nice holiday with her mum and it ended up costing hundreds of thousands of dollars just to get her home. Obviously, there's a whole heap of lifetime costs that I'm not going to go into,
Starting point is 00:18:40 but if she had the wrong insurance policy, that could have cost her family hundreds of thousands of dollars. As I've said before, I do not believe in going on a holiday without travel insurance. If you say you can't afford it, from my perspective, you cannot afford to go on holiday. end of story. Like, I just think if you're not going to get it back, then you shouldn't be going on that holiday. It, for me, as somebody in the position where I have seen this happen far too many times, because I used to live in the insurance world, it breaks my heart. And it's just, for me, a non-negotiable. So I just think we need to make sure that you have a look at the cost benefits and work out what that means. And the best way you can do that is go, okay, cool. I'm going to go
Starting point is 00:19:18 work out what a standalone policy would actually include and make sure that I'm ticking all the boxes that are important to me with my credit card insurance. But from my perspective, as someone who has historically had a credit card, I've actually gone and gotten standalone travel insurance in addition because it just wasn't enough. And if you want more information about the things you should think about, we did a whole episode last year called Talking Travel Insurance where V got really in depth about the things you want to think about, the little bits and pieces that I feel like the everyday person like us wouldn't consider if we hadn't spoken to someone about it. Alex, I want to make sure you're in the best possible position. It's not a silly question at all. You
Starting point is 00:19:53 just don't know until you get told. So I think from my perspective, go and have a look because to be honest, some credit cards do come with a very, very good travel insurance, but you'd have to review the policy and make sure that that works for you because every single person is different. Very well said. Thank you. I feel like I'm on a rant today. Like, you know, those rant vibes that I end up getting, Jess? Like I just go, oh my God. All right. So you want to talk about credit card travel insurance? Sit down. Well, I feel like this week's community question is really just going to light a fire under that.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Oh no. I'm so sorry. Please still love me. It's not my fault that I just go rogue. I get excited because I just want you guys to be in the best possible position and I really, really do. I promise. All right. Well, tell us what did this week's community member have to say? Hey girls, love the pod and would appreciate a hand. I've been with my boyfriend for three years now. We don't live together, but it's in discussions. I have one major thing that's stopping me. His lack of financial literacy and desire to get a full-time job scares me. I'm really set and have big goals and plans that I would love to involve him in. However,
Starting point is 00:20:59 he only works around three shifts a week at a gym. He doesn't seem to care about finding full-time work. And whenever I try and tell him, wouldn't the extra cash be good? He just doesn't seem to care. There's three question marks after that. I also feel like he doesn't have any motivation to earn or save money, to be able to go on holidays together which upsets me sometimes as it's something I would love to do. He got a bit of inheritance that I feel like he really relies on but I'm worried he will blink and it'll all be gone. I'm struggling to see a future with us when we have such different money goals and values. Do you have any advice? I feel like I'm going to be a black sheep here because I can see everyone's face and I know that I'm going to have
Starting point is 00:21:40 a different opinion. I think I'm going to be on your team, to be honest. Do you think so? I think so. Well, I'm just going to say that for a large portion of my life, probably even still to this day, my focus is living. And I was trying to get to a point in my life where I would be making enough to just exist. And then I would be doing everything that I love outside of work, seeing friends, laying in the grass, laying in the sun. I don't care. I love how that's a hobby. Laying in the grass. And do you know what? If you guys follow Beck on Insta, you know, she actually genuinely does that a lot. She takes her friends to lay in the grass. That's all I do. And that's like, that's my priority. And some people's priority is like, you know, working, getting a
Starting point is 00:22:20 full-time job and saving money and reaching all these financial goals. I totally get that. And I actually really respect that. I don't think, I think you maybe either have that passion, that drive or, or you don't, but you can, you can gain that of course. But I think that some people have different priorities in life and you can be so excited to just live outside of work I agree you know I agree I think you're going to be really surprised I think Jess and I are on the same page about this as well Jess do you want to give your opinion and then I'll give mine yeah no I think I can see our producer Annalisa over the other side of the table being like no red flag I agree with you but it's different priorities I think the thing here is that you have to go okay like
Starting point is 00:23:03 is the difference in priorities an issue for me? Because I think as someone who definitely falls into the more driven category, you know, if you feel like somebody is compromising those goals, is that going to put a strain on your relationship? And I guess you have to weigh up how much you love this person, how much they fill your cup in other ways, because obviously there is much more that someone can contribute to a relationship than just finances. So I think what you have to do is kind of go okay I'm allowed to be upset or I'm allowed to be uncomfortable with the fact that we have such different viewpoints on something as significant as money and you have to decide is that going to be a deal breaker because the way that I kind of look at relationships is in an ideal world
Starting point is 00:23:45 if you're in a monogamous relationship you guys are going to be together and you're going to be able to each other's rock for the next 60 to 90 years of your life like we're we're shooting for 100 years. You're going to be together for a long, long time. And I think if there are things that feel big now, they're probably going to continue to feel big for the duration of your relationship. And do you want to be sitting on something like that for another 60 years? How is that going to make you feel? Because it has the potential to undermine that relationship. Yes, your partner could change. Yes, you could change. Nobody's entirely inflexible. But if, as you said, it does come down to I like X and you like Y and neither of us want to change,
Starting point is 00:24:27 then is that going to be a problem long term? I genuinely couldn't agree more. I think our producer has thrown this one in here because she thought it'd start a fight between us. And maybe we'll get to a fight in our DMs, like when we get people's responses. But from my perspective, money doesn't have to be the biggest thing in a relationship. To me, it's important to have a level of financial literacy. If your partner is, you know, wasting money and getting you in debt, like that's a different story than him not having money as a main priority, right? And I think if we changed this narrative, like pretend it's my husband writing this letter and it's him being so upset that I don't engage with him on his favorite hobby golf.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Like Victoria, I've been with her for eight years and oh my gosh, we live together and she just still doesn't come to golf with me. She won't engage with golf with me. She doesn't care when I go to golf, she stays at home and sleeps in. Like, I think that's lazy. Do you know what I mean? Like if we reframe that, he's just got different values than me and that's okay. I am wildly passionate about financial literacy and I'm assuming that because you listen to our content, you are too. That's so beautiful. Have an open, honest conversation with your partner because it could go back to what you're talking about, Bec. He just doesn't want to work his life away. Yeah. There are a lot of people in that circumstance where they don't want to do
Starting point is 00:25:47 the nine to five Monday to Friday grind. And do you know what? That should actually be okay. It's not an expectation. Like, where did that even come from? Why is that how we are expected to live our lives? I think obviously having a level of financial literacy is something that everybody deserves. Whether you want to, you know, do heaps of saving goals and pop up your saving chart on the fridge and, you know, work towards holidays. Like, have you actually talked to your partner about what holidays mean. Because Beck, let's just like look at you and Jess. Jess, obsessed with travel. Like I think she would use her last dollar to go on a holiday. Like genuinely travel is from my perspective, something that she really, really values. Yeah. I don't think
Starting point is 00:26:26 you care that much. I think you just want freedom to go and get a bagel in the morning. And if I said, is it in Italy? You'd be like, oh, I mean, that'd be all right. But have you seen the place down the street? I've been to this place on Sydney Road in Brunswick. That's where I want to be. But do you know what I mean? We've all got different values and he might just not have the same values as you. And you're right, Jess, maybe we need to have a conversation about what that looks like. And if you are really passionate and wild about travel, is that partner the right partner for you? I guess is the question. I don't think someone should have to change significantly to be in a relationship. Obviously being on the same page
Starting point is 00:27:03 when it comes to money is really important, but I also don't think that your partner should compromise his lifestyle to commit to a lifestyle that you want because that's then compromising his wants and his needs and his values. And I don't think that we should do that too much in a relationship. Like at the end of the day, relationships are all about compromise. We need to come to some agreement and not everybody is always going to get 100% what they want because that's not how life works. But if his value set is so different to yours, maybe we talk about whether that relationship is sustainable in the long term or we talk about other ways in which you could feel fulfilled? Can you go on holidays with your girlfriends? Is that something where
Starting point is 00:27:41 maybe instead of going with your partner, you go, well, I really do want to go to Italy, honey. How about I go ask Jess if she wants to come with me and Jess and I are going to go July next year. He might go, yeah, all right, have fun. Do you know what I mean? Like we all have different value sets and I think that that's actually okay. Absolutely. I do agree. Is that where you thought the conversation would go? I did not. I really thought you guys would be on the opposite end of that. So I'm kind of stoked. You're kind of stoked? Yeah, I'm kind of stoked with this. I'm a bit disappointed that you thought that we would be like, no. But we did ask the community a few things. So we said, have you experienced something like this with your significant other? 38% of you
Starting point is 00:28:19 said yes. 62% said no. We then said, if yes, do you find it puts a strain on your relationship? So this is just the people saying like, yeah, we have, you know, experienced something like this with my partner, 93% of people said, yeah, it does put a strain on my relationship. Only 7% of you said no. I'd love to talk to the 7% where they're like, I've experienced that in my relationship, but also it doesn't put strain on my relationship. How? Please share with us. I feel like we've got a lot to learn from you. We then said, have you ever been in a relationship that ended due to difference in financial goals or values? 45% of you said yes. That's a lot, right? to me that's a really big segment of the community that has been in a relationship that's ended
Starting point is 00:29:03 because you couldn't get on the same page when it comes to money and that's important though that's really important yeah I think it's it's hard because you go well where do you weigh it up and everyone's gonna learn differently some people might be like you know what I can let it go and I can I'm happy to compromise and for other people they're like no like my way or the highway and both of those are totally fine but it's just fitting that into the relationship that you have and figuring out what that, I suppose, means for you and your partner. Yeah. We also then asked the community, well, give us your two cents.
Starting point is 00:29:33 And here are some of those comments. So someone said, have a good chat. Mental health problems, maybe. Any willing list to change? If not, leave. Wild to think. Oh, that is a bit mean. Yep.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Someone else said, this one will get you. Do not move in with this man. He is a child who will drain your time, energy, and resources. Oh, my days. if you're going to talk to me about a man child hear me out i feel like to me the definition of a man child is someone who doesn't clean up after themselves and expects you to act like their mother and do their laundry and do all of that stuff what if he just doesn't want to go to work and do a nine to five monday to friday job because he happens to have hobbies that he's passionate
Starting point is 00:30:15 about and would like to engage in those instead and has found a way in his part-time work to make enough money that he can make that choice yeah is that not sick that is pretty sick that's not a man child to me no like a man child will be oh my partner doesn't do anything he calls me mom do you know what I mean like yeah I think as well we don't have enough information here so I feel like the other thing is does he you know can he within his budget as you you know you've just said maybe he has enough to like afford what he wants to do can he afford to for you guys to go out to dinner together and to split the bill? Can he afford to go on date night? I mean, there are things, I guess, in a relationship that all of time do sometimes cost money. And if he's covering
Starting point is 00:30:57 his living expenses, that's awesome. But if he can't cover, I guess, those additional things, again, is that going to be an issue? Yeah. Someone else said, sometimes people are really good for you, but for a season, they aren't on the same journey as you long term. That's much nicer. That's much nicer. That's a much nicer way to put it. Someone said, different financial goals and values reflect a difference in overall values, especially if there's not going to be any compromise. I feel like that's good. Someone else said, leave him. Your values do not align. People seem like they're very firmly. Aggressive. Yeah. One way or the other. Yeah, I agree with that. I think that the values thing, the last one you read out is very black
Starting point is 00:31:37 and white. Yeah, your values don't align. You guys can break up if you want to. But leaving this guy because he's maybe, you know, not got the same financial goals. I don't know. That seems a bit mean. I also just, I feel like there's this unnecessary pressure or expectation that everybody should be career motivated. Yeah. Everybody should want to be the best of the best and earn the most money. And I just, I don't agree. Like, I think there's something really sexy genuinely about someone who's just like, nah, live in my life. Like, I envy the way that you go, love my life, love this, got enough money to do that, going to go lay in the grass and have a sick time. Like that is, that is to me goals. Like that is so cool. And I don't think we give
Starting point is 00:32:22 enough respect to people who just know themselves so well. They're like, I don't want to do that. Yeah, totally. I think if you're not leeching off of someone else, if you're just like living your own life, you're never borrowing money, you're never needing from anyone else. You're just living your own life. Just do that however you want to do that. You know, whether that's working one day or five days or seven days. You can still have the life that you want with a partner that might not be on the same journey if that's the compromise that you want to make. And as I said before, you could travel without them. You could, you know, save up for things without them. Like you don't need a man. Like you, a man is not a financial plan. We've talked about this
Starting point is 00:32:54 before. Like you can do whatever you want. I'm not going to read out a lot of the other comments because to be honest, I felt like they were quite judgmental this week. And I'm all about sharing honest, open opinions, but I just feel like calling someone a man child consistently and saying, leave him and being like, no, he's a deadbeat man. Like I just, I think that's a level of judgment that we need to really reflect on because at no point in that listener question, did they say that they weren't contributing to the household and, you know, paying their way at no point did they say that they're putting additional financial pressure on the partner that had different financial goals. Like from my perspective, it's kind of cool to be in a
Starting point is 00:33:31 different situation than somebody else. And like, I happen to be in a relationship where my partner and I are both really career focused. Like we are both exactly on the same page. One of my best friends, her entire life goal was to get to the point where she was married and could have a baby and become a stay at home mom. That was her job. That was exactly, that was her goals. That was her career. She's done it. I'm so stoked for her. I have another friend who works part time and basically she's like Beck like just wants to vibe I love that she's one of my favorite humans in the entire world because she just knows herself so well those are the people I want to surround myself with like a career call your job doesn't define you we've talked about that before and when
Starting point is 00:34:10 it does you're really boring like genuinely like if I went to parties and talked to people well I work you suck yeah yeah that's very good point also she didn't mention if he treats her well and if he's funny and nice. Exactly, what if he's the kindest, funniest human in the entire world? What if he wants to be a stay-at-home partner? What if he's just the nicest human and the most respectful person you've ever met? He just vibes.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Yeah. Hopefully that helps. Are we done here? I think we are. I feel like I've ranted enough. I told you I was in a ranty mood. I told you. I loved every second.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Thank you for letting me rant. Bec, we need to take a leaf out of your book. Let's go lay in the grass. Let's go. We'll see you on Monday, my loves. have the best weekend ever bye guys bye the advice shared on she's on the money is general in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances she's on the money exists purely for educational purposes and
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