She's On The Money - MONEY DIARIES: OnlyFans Side Hustler

Episode Date: January 31, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 She's on the money. She's on the money. Hello and welcome to She's on the money, the podcast for millennials who want financial freedom. In this week's money diary, we're going to speak to the not so anonymous Daria. I made seven grand in 24 hours. Now Daria has given us permission to share her socials because to be honest after you've listened to this interview you are also going to want to perv on her content. So let's jump straight into
Starting point is 00:00:43 the app. Daria what do you do for work? Well I'd say that I do a lot for work. I do OnlyFans on the side but for the past six years I've been a wedding photographer and for the past two years you could say I've been a bit of an influencer I work at a skincare brand in Moorabbin it's a vegan skincare brand awesome and I'll give them a bit of a shout out it's called Somersault Body oh beautiful I have seen them yeah yeah I follow them on Instagram oh my god well I make half the products yeah so cute so yeah they're my more or less full-time income but I started OnlyFans last year in February so it's been nearly a year now awesome yeah all right next question is how much do you earn and how much have you earned from your jobs so from just OnlyFans as it is
Starting point is 00:01:38 I've earned let me have a look now guys I don't actually know these numbers and I purposefully didn't ask before so that we can have a proper chat actual questions the last few weeks the last few weeks all right i made 4930 so it's not much but you mean not much that's like someone's full salary when you compare it to like other girls that are making like 40 000 in a week i feel like these are realistic numbers but you're on the way yeah absolutely on the way yeah since starting it I've made about 70,000 that's awesome yeah that is so cool and are you saving or are you investing or like are you just not sure what to do with your money yet I save everything oh my gosh yeah yeah so all of the money that I make I don't spend it the money that I get from like work and promoting
Starting point is 00:02:27 brands and stuff that's usually like what I spend but even with that like I always put a percentage of that in my bank account so it's all just I'm just hoarding money I love that yeah I love that So following on from that, what is your biggest money goal? Would probably be to buy a house one day, but it's very far in the future. That's okay. What does that look like to you? Well, I feel like it would probably be achievable by like next year, depending on how this year goes with OnlyFans.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Otherwise, I kind of just want to save my money and then travel. It's, I have to like weigh up. Do I want to give away all of my money into a mortgage and have nothing in my bank account? Or do I travel and then be also paid while I travel? Genius. Because people are like, oh, my God, she's in Europe. Let's give her more money because she's creating.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Yeah. I'm on tour. So, yeah, it's a big way in. I love that. Is that strangely, isn't it an investment to go to Europe? Because you kind of, would you say you'd earn it back, if that makes sense? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Well, I mean, on the down low, you can, like, write it off on tax because it's a business expense. Not on the down low on this podcast. That is A1 material. A million people that have listened to our podcast this month are all going to now know it's not so down low, but it totally is. And I think that's something that I've never spoken about on the podcast, but I do have a fair few clients who are sex workers,
Starting point is 00:03:51 people who do OnlyFans, and I've also got clients who are escorts, and they do these tours, and they essentially make bank when they do their tours because, one, they get really great Instagram and like social media content yeah but also new people discover them because they're going to different locations and somehow it's just more yeah I don't know people want it more which is awesome yeah it depends on like where you go I guess safe because I do a lot of my work on Instagram and stuff before Instagram changed their train their guidelines um but yeah like if I ever go to like a new location I do content there and I tag the place usually people will find it on like
Starting point is 00:04:28 the discovery page or something this is definitely not something that you could have done 20 years ago and been nearly as successful and I think that that's something that is so cool about like 2021 we have so many opportunities available to us and all you've got to do is really learn how to make the most of them and like actually put your head down and be like all right well actually I am gonna do this and I think that's something that people don't give people who are in sex work and who do do OnlyFans enough credit for yeah there's so much marketing that goes on behind the scenes there's so much strategy like you guys are little Instagram and internet wizards I love it well I feel like in the last five years Instagram for a lot of people my age it's just
Starting point is 00:05:08 become their full-time jobs I feel like it's such a good way to be able to make money off it why have a platform if you can't try and benefit from it 100% yeah what's your best money habit best money habit would be a few years ago I put my mind into a do I need it or do I want it because the money that I've saved hasn't just been all from this year I kind of put myself in like a mind frame of wanting to save money for a fair few years so I feel like that's one good habit I do have I won't really buy myself clothes very often because I'll be like do I need it or do I want it I feel like a lot of people that don't have a good time with saving money don't really have a filter it's just like oh I've got I've been paid let's go spend like four hundred dollars
Starting point is 00:05:52 on clothes I could save and then get like my car registered registered registered or like with my OnlyFans and stuff I put my um I set little goals was when I made my first 10 grand I went and got my lips done I love that and then the second time I got my car registered and then when I made 30 grand i brought the iphone the new one so i guess like they're my little presents to myself i like that yeah i think it's important to reward yourself along the way as opposed to just spoiling yourself because you know you've got this great cash flow coming in all of a sudden yeah exactly in contrast though what's your worst money habit would probably be not giving myself more of like a leeway of being able to spend money i'm very strict a lot of people have been quite similar that we've spoken
Starting point is 00:06:45 to over the last year in that it's sort of one or the other they've gone from they've been really bad at saving and they spent everything then they move over become really good at saving and suddenly they start feel really guilty and they can't is that really common that you find it's super common because you haven't been able to find a balance yeah and i would assume and this is me analyzing it because i love doing that but i would assume it's because as much as you're really good at saving and you're really good at putting goals in place you also don't have super strict goals with timelines and timeframes and you probably also don't have a cash flow system where you go okay cool this comes in this is how much I spend each week on total bills rent etc like I'm assuming
Starting point is 00:07:25 there's a little bit not lacking it's not everybody needs it but usually you find yourself feeling guilty because you actually don't know what you could have spent that on instead yeah well I mean I never really came from money all growing up so being able to have this in my bank account it's kind of makes me stressed out it might not be there forever I don't want to waste my money and you know be silly with it and then a year down the track I've got nothing to show for it so seeing that in there I have a very hard time of seeing it go down if I spend like a hundred dollars on something I'm like oh my god I need to make it back I need to make it back like right now yeah and that's a good thing because some people are literally the opposite they spend all
Starting point is 00:08:05 their money and then they look at it and go all right well I can just make it back yeah whereas you're the opposite all right so last of the structured questions if we forced you to give yourself a grade what would you grade yourself when it comes to money oh a b plus i feel with like how i save and how i structure it and how i like lay it out and stuff otherwise with spending and like being able to have fun with it i'd probably give it a c what would it take to get to an a plus i don't know if i could make 20 grand a month on only fans i would be an a plus and that's not that no but that's not that i'm i'm not saying that's bad but like that's not that unachievable when it comes to only fans either looking at you know
Starting point is 00:08:55 i obviously don't talk about my clients all that often on here but looking at my clients they're making a whole heap more than that as well so it definitely could be there it just keeps growing i made seven grand in 20 in 24 hours wow oh my god i don't know how but i just like you just wrote it right and people were just like subscribing i think in one night i grew from 230 subs to 500 you can make like a thousand dollars a month or seven thousand dollars in 24 hours it's very insane all over the place yeah how cool is that though it was very cool I was very overwhelmed I really want to understand a little bit more about how this platform actually works so for
Starting point is 00:09:50 those of you playing along at home who maybe haven't heard of OnlyFans before Daria could you give us a quick rundown what is it how does it work and how do you get paid using this platform well I'd say it's a subscription-based platform a lot of people are using it to add different content that you can't really allow on Instagram or other social medias for a majority of people they do use it for adult entertainment but it's not only that like if you're a chef if you're a what do you call them like a gym person if you're a chef are there chefs on there like I could subscribe and get taught to cook yeah exactly how did I not know this I saw a thing on TikTok the other day because I'm a TikTok tragic and it said all right only fans but with my grandma and call
Starting point is 00:10:37 it only grants and she will just teach you life skills like knitting and how to bake a sponge and And I was like, I would subscribe to that. But what you're telling me is that exists. No, well, a lot of people think it's just for adult entertainment. But if you're a chef and you feel as if you can benefit from it and capitalize off it, you can make it. If you're like a personal trainer and you want to give out videos of like different workouts and stuff, you can benefit.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Oh, cool. So it's literally just a subscription-based platform. I don't think they realized themselves that it was going to be so skewed to adult content because like you said, you can't charge people to subscribe to your instagram so they basically just said oh if you want to charge a premium for your content here here it is and then like you said because they allow a bit more adult nature it's kind of skewed that way over time but it's actually not what it's based on no it's for everything anything that you can capitalize off you can put on there how cool
Starting point is 00:11:28 coming up next guys she's on the money only fans um so as well as subscription is there different tiers or there's actually different ways within the subscription like there's lots of different ways within the app to make money right so you can charge up to i think the smallest amount is $3.99 usd and then you can like charge a hundred dollars for that's just subscriptions but then on the actual page how i make a lot of my money is people request content or they ask for something or i actually have a menu of everything that i charge and then people just like send the money and then i send it off so i've made a lot more money in uh i think they call it p p pv or something it's like pay-per-view yeah pay-per-view so i've made a lot more money in that than i have
Starting point is 00:12:15 in subscriptions yeah oh cool so i don't think i understood this and i know that sounds really silly but i genuinely had never sat down with any of my clients and be like all right break it down for me how does this work because i just look at the final statement i'm like wow this is how much you made last month let's talk about investment yeah um and I also don't want to cross a line with clients who haven't really invited me to have that conversation because I don't feel like it's appropriate for me to be like okay cool what's on your menu what do you offer people in that adult space yeah um and I just think if they're going to talk about it cool I'll end today in the conversation but I'm not going to be like Daria what's on your menu tell us everything
Starting point is 00:12:53 yeah tell us everything we're just going to subscribe to see ourselves I love it so from a business point of view is subscriptions better because it is reoccurring yeah is that the balance you need to make as you know a small business owner in a sense yeah well i mean it's constant income so for me on mine i think i make around 11 000 a month just from subscriptions so if say like no one paid for any pay-per-view i'd still make that money unless like they unsubscribe or their month is over and stuff but yeah like it's i don't have to do anything and i still get paid that amount you're making 11 grand a month without lifting another finger if you just let it go yep oh that's the dream my friend I know it seems so easy like it's so easy can you tell me a little
Starting point is 00:13:38 bit more about your approach to it is this a hobby is this something that you're like all right I've seen the benefits of it this is going to become my full-time job what does that actually look like well I started out because for the last two three years I've done a little bit of modeling on the side and there was a girl that I followed on Instagram I'll give her a shout out her name's Maddie Neville she's a nude art model yeah and I just like I followed her for years and she's so beautiful and I was like I want to do that she seems so free with her own body there was a photographer that wanted me to do a photo shoot and it was the best thing I had ever done it was in a sunflower field and I was completely naked but I felt like a little fairy just like running
Starting point is 00:14:23 around in this field of flowers and then after that I was like why not so many people are doing it and I know how to pose I have a good eye for photos the second I found out you were a photographer I was like she's gonna kill it in this game yeah I feel like with my own platform I feel like it's very high quality because I have I don't really do just like selfies or with my phone and stuff it's it is quite a lot of professional photography how cool yeah I actually love that and do you think that that's maybe differentiated yourself from people who just do selfies no not really I mean I don't do them all the time like I don't do photo shoots all the time but I feel like a lot of girls that do start out only fans they don't really think about the effort that you have to
Starting point is 00:15:10 put into it but yeah if you put a lot more effort into it that's I think that's where you grow a bit more I love that and what what made you decide all right I'm gonna go on OnlyFans and produce this content what was the I guess trigger for doing that because at the end of the day regardless of whether you're a content creator or not it is a really big step to go okay cool I'm gonna go and create an OnlyFans for this specific type of content and I'm assuming that there's a level of oh what will people think how will that work what made you choose to actually go ahead and do it Well, I actually started doing it because I saw so many other girls were making like, it was just like, I don't know if it was rumours.
Starting point is 00:15:44 They're just making bank. Yeah, like no joke. There were people making like a million dollars a year. It is not a rumour. And I was like, I need to do this. I just want to see what I can do. And I figured I'd probably make like a hundred dollars. Not true.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Turns out I made a lot more. How good. Yeah. Another reason why I went with it as well was because of the workplace I work in. They were so open and they didn't really mind. people that do have OnlyFans they're scared of their workplaces they're scared about what their boss is going to think of them or you know being scared of being fired and stuff but my boss it's completely like she's full in she for Christmas this year she gave me a t-shirt that has OnlyFans
Starting point is 00:16:24 on it but with like a fan oh my gosh what a queen so yeah I feel like that's why I went in because I didn't feel scared I wasn't scared about keeping it a secret yeah okay yeah I wasn't worried just for the record anyone working at she's on the money because there are a few of you in the room right now yeah yeah go ahead no problem i'd say i'd say you answered a question and jess nodded like she'd done this research jess is actually a little content creator of her own yeah i might make the switch get onto it she'll probably pay you better than a picture of the vine does um so v sort of touched on it before but where's your head at in terms of is it still a bit of a side hustle is this going well but i just want it to be on the side as well as my full-time job to one
Starting point is 00:17:08 day you maybe want to quit the job so you can do this full-time where are you kind of thinking in long low sort of lines well i was talking about this at work the other day i feel like i'd have to make a lot of money to leave my job because social media isn't always going to be there i feel like it's not a really safe place to kind of just move everything to the side and be like oh i'm just going to do only fans full-time because it could just be deleted one day or i i just not make any money and it almost happened to tiktok it almost just got shut down that would have been terrifying imagine if your entire income came from tiktok and then one day you wake up here it's going to be banned so is that what kind of scares you from going into it or maybe i know you
Starting point is 00:17:46 just love your job and it is what it is i think it's just because i love my job like because i've been in a workplace that enjoy it well not enjoy it but like they accept it i do also have to think about so like 20 30 years down the track i don't know if i'll be doing only fans then but i guess it is a bit of a risk of other workplaces they might not accept it so i wouldn't want to you know later down the track not have only fans and not have a job yeah so i was gonna put it out there though and i get there's a huge generation gap but we had this lady apply for a job with us v who was in the entertainment industry and when she actually broke down here's what i do here's the thought i put in here's the we were like oh we actually respected it we were like we respect
Starting point is 00:18:30 the hustle we respect the and v was joking like good with handling cash organized but but we as you know inverted commas employers we didn't turn our nose up at all yeah and i think i think that's very i think it's very different right like i remember back to my corporate days that would have been looked down upon something shocking whereas you know you come to she's on the money and i'd be like girl get it like i actually have so much more respect for people who have their own side hustle and have their own drive and have, you know, something else going on. I think it's awesome.
Starting point is 00:19:02 And the level of confidence that you evidently have because you are doing that, not because you've got this confidence to do it, but more it seems to give you guys more confidence because you're like so comfortable with yourself and comfortable in a workplace. You are arguably easier to work with. Yeah, I feel like in the last probably three, four years,
Starting point is 00:19:19 the way that like working has gone, it's more so people aren't worried about your personal life as well as your work life our personal life has nothing to do with our work life and our professional life and I feel as if it's going in that way of people being more accepting yeah and I think that if employers are looking who cares what you do exactly are you capable are you doing the job that you are employed for yes no if people are going to judge you are they even the right people that you want to be attracting anyway to your business yeah I don't know on that note of employers you mentioned that your employer is super comfortable with it and
Starting point is 00:19:56 really supportive how'd you bring that conversation up i think they just saw it on my instagram i didn't really like go to work and be like oh so i started only fans i think they just like saw it on my instagram like promoting it and i think one of the girls at work was like oh i saw that you're doing like this only fans thing what is it i explained it to them and over the last few months or nearly a year I kind of just like let them in and for what I'm doing and stuff and they've even made jokes about wanting to start it themselves but they you know they don't want to do that but it's just so nice to know that I'm accepted and I don't have to stress out about going to work or hide anything on the internet yeah I know there are going to be a number of
Starting point is 00:20:35 people listening along being like oh my gosh I should do this so it would be right of us to go through from your perspective what are the pros and the cons like obviously there's a number of benefits like you're obviously doing really well financially you're going to achieve these awesome financial goals like it empowers you you're really confident with it are there any other benefits and then can you tell me maybe what are the downsides of these well I feel like the benefits would be you end up a lot more open with yourself and like your own body I don't know how to explain it but like you do get a lot more like sensual with yourself it kind of opens up just a whole entire a different spectrum of life and I feel like you're not as judging towards other people as well
Starting point is 00:21:16 I've noticed over like the last few weeks when we went down to the pillars there was a few girls there just like sitting on the rocks and me and my friend was like oh we kind of want to like take some photos and stuff is it okay if like we're probably going to see a boob and they were like no totally do it like we're fine and I was how good I was at the pillars the other week I I didn't get to see any food, though. Damn. I should have dropped my pin when I was there. Sorry, sorry, I'm here now.
Starting point is 00:21:44 But, yeah, I feel like a few years ago people were just so more judging of everything. But, yeah, that's like one good thing that I feel that's benefited me. It's just so open. And what's something that, yeah, a con that people should, you know, consider and be aware of and maybe one that isn't the obvious ones or that you didn't know about that you do now? Like, oh, my nudes are going to be on the internet.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Oh, you didn't realise, babe? I think we really need to go back to the drawing board. You do have to develop a I don't give a attitude because there are people that do judge. Like, there's people that send hate messages. There's people that subscribe. And you do have to worry about the risk of being leaked on the internet. So that's, like, one massive scary thing.
Starting point is 00:22:31 But, I mean, from now with, like, the police and all of that kind of thing, And I think it's, you're not allowed to leak anything. It's 100% illegal, yeah. Yeah, because it's like revenge porn, even if it's just a boob. Yeah, so it is a bit safe, but you do have to worry about a lot of things on there. And I've also had to kind of take a step back and look at it more as a business side of thing
Starting point is 00:22:54 because there are people that subscribe and they expect everything for free. And it's like, well, I wouldn't make my money on there. I'm not going to give out like $1,000 worth of content for like $10 a month. So people do get angry and you have to kind of just like step back and be like, I'm sorry if you feel this way and then just block them. Oh, how annoying. So that happens in every industry.
Starting point is 00:23:16 I tell you, working radio, everyone goes, hey, you're working radio, can you come and emcee this event? You're like, yeah, sure, this is what I charge. And like, oh, no, we just meant like just come and do it. Like, oh, yeah, totally. Yeah, and me, I'm sure no one's just ever asked you random finance questions. No, no, it never happens. but I do think that it's important to note that regardless of what industry you're working in
Starting point is 00:23:36 if you put yourself in the public eye you're gonna get hate yeah whether you're doing OnlyFans or you have a money podcast people literally just don't like people seeing other people succeed and other people actually being successful at it and I'm sure if it was you and two followers people wouldn't bother commenting on you but if you're posting oh like I'm making bank people are gonna hate you for it and I think you know you've got to go into it knowing that not everyone is going to be your biggest fan yeah and that's actually okay because I feel like you know this is more from my perspective the more followers you get the more your community grows the more you realize that there are really valuable people in there they're the people you want to connect with and it actually doesn't
Starting point is 00:24:21 matter what hate you get for it because you're like I feel really bad for you that you have taken the time out of your day to say something nasty on the internet that was their time and their energy and congrats what were you hoping like do you want me to cry and send a selfie of me crying over your message i will but it'll cost you 50 bucks yeah i will but you've got to subscribe well i feel like i've definitely developed a pretty thick skin i came from tasmania and oh my gosh me too really yeah tazzy sisters yeah 100 i'm lonnie though so if you from Hobart you're gonna have to leave she's from the big smoke of Hobart
Starting point is 00:24:57 she's a big dog well I feel like if I was to go back there a lot of people would judge me because it is such a small place if say I was like to go clubbing there would be people in the corners being like oh my god it's Darian she's got OnlyFans like but over here babe I can buy you a drink
Starting point is 00:25:12 it's like we can collab but no over here it's that's why I feel more free because it's such a big place like you hardly see someone twice yeah i know that you are sort of teaching other people how to get into only fans as well so what um because you've spoke very like positively about it but what are some technical things maybe advice you could give like for instance people who want to go into
Starting point is 00:25:37 instagram start learning about the best times to post and maybe the right hashtags and stuff so there's their little intricacies of only fans that you know people starting out wouldn't even know about that you would recommend if people are starting yeah let's pretend i'm about to start give me a quick crash course five minutes what do i need to know well first off i feel like it's such a massive industry that people want to get into and it's on such high demand people want to know the secrets people want to know how you got successful but they think that you've only been successful in like a week but people don't understand that it is a long process it doesn't take a week to be successful it's taken me a whole year what do you mean i mean maybe now i'm out
Starting point is 00:26:15 But, yeah, I created an OnlyFans just for advice and whoever wants to subscribe to it, it's just full of all of the information that you have to do because it is such an intricate website. You don't just upload and expect money. A lot of people expect to just upload, say, like a bikini photo and they just make $1,000. It's so much.
Starting point is 00:26:42 There's just so much towards it. Well, how many hours would you spend a week kind of, you know, managing it? On Just Only Fans probably would be like four hours a day, but not just constantly. Like throughout the day I'll check it, see if anyone's like sent me a message and I'll send something out or I'll do it quickly over morning or in the afternoon and stuff. But there's like a lot of other places that you have to promote it
Starting point is 00:27:05 because it's a confusing website. You have to have a link to be able to subscribe and a lot of people get confused with that. they want to hide it they don't want to post their link anywhere they want to be fully anonymous they don't want to show their face because where's facebook and instagram or any other thing you can kind of in inverted commas go viral yeah where's only fans am i right that what you're saying you can't just go onto that site only you need to direct people from other places yeah so it's not like instagram how they've got like a discovery page and anyone can just pop up right
Starting point is 00:27:37 you have to promote the link so say like the link is in my instagram bio people from tiktok twitter instagram all other websites like if they go to my instagram it's there and then they subscribe yeah okay so they actually have to find you on a different social media yeah they have to find about your link yeah exactly because say if the link wasn't anywhere no one would know i existed yeah okay so it's private until you promote that link exactly all over the internet yeah Because then that's probably, I mean, that's a great piece of advice for people wanting to start is you have to kind of go, well, I have to promote this. I can't just post the photo. I need to actively push it.
Starting point is 00:28:16 You have to be all in. Like the one massive piece of advice that I could give to people is if you want to do it, you can't hide from it. Because in no other way to say it, you're part of the sex work industry. 100% you are. Yeah. Whether you don't show your face or you don't have your real name or you don't tell anyone, you're part of it. So if you're going to do it in a way of being scared or worried about other people's opinions
Starting point is 00:28:41 or feeling not really good about yourself to put it out there, just don't do it because you are still part of the sex work industry. So you may as well just fully jump in. So you kind of, it sounds weird to say, have that conversation with yourself before you start. You go like, am I doing this? Because if I'm doing this, I'm in. And if I'm not sure yet, then I'm not going to do it.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Like you kind of need to, did you have to give yourself a little pep talk so to speak? Well, I don't know. I feel like over the years being on Instagram and like being a social media creator and stuff, I've always had my life on the internet. I've always been so open that and when I found that my job was accepting and stuff
Starting point is 00:29:19 and I didn't really mind, I did kind of relax a little bit. But as I said, I have to think about 20 years down the track. But in my own self, like I know I'm not going to be a lawyer. I'm not going to be a police officer. I'm not going to be someone that's in like a massive higher grade job where you know you probably shouldn't have an only fans do you work with someone else to create content or is this just a one gal show just friends and stuff like um my other friend she's got an only fans and as i said like we'll go out to the beach and we'll
Starting point is 00:29:50 take photos of each other and stuff or there's a photographer out there that is into like nude art modeling and stuff if i trust them then i was just about to say that you have to trust them Yeah. I've only ever worked with one photographer. His name was Chris Smith and he's got like a fair few followers on Instagram. There's like Maddie Neville, the girl that kind of inspired me to do it. She's worked with him a fair few times. So I felt safe in that aspect. But otherwise, I don't know. I don't really know if I'd really work with anyone else just because there are people out there that do want to exploit it. I think that's really important because this industry can have a lot of people that are really predatory when it comes to creating content yeah yeah all right so
Starting point is 00:30:32 in the show notes uh we're going to put a link to your where do we instagram is that what you want to send yeah where do we find you on my instagram yeah in my link on my instagram i have my my personal only fans and the advice one so if you ever want help on how to grow it or be successful like me go and subscribe to that one but that's really important right like if i was going to do something i want to learn from the people who are actually doing it not just random youtube videos of people being like this is how you do it from someone who doesn't do it yeah well because I promote on on tiktok probably like every week I get over 200 messages on tiktok plus instagram I've had someone email me how official I know because I just want to know how
Starting point is 00:31:15 to do it because there's so many people out there that are like oh I made a hundred thousand dollars this month or oh I'm doing all of this and that and people are like how do you do it how like what is this mysterious land so i was like may as well you know capitalize off it and be able to put all of my advice on like one platform and whoever wants to subscribe can just see all of it because how much do you charge for the advice one only five dollars a month okay that's pretty good and it's such like very detailed everything that you need to do that will help you because people they don't really think about like the technical stuff behind it they just think that you upload a photo and everyone just magically finds you.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Like, there's so much more behind it. You're obviously good at what you do because we just popped a little preview up on our story and our friend Adele slid into our DMs and was like, oh, my gosh, I love her. Oh, my God. So there you go. That's kind of fun.
Starting point is 00:32:09 I love that. Dara, thank you so much for coming in. Obviously, for some people, it's a very taboo topic, so thanks for being a legend and coming in. And I feel like a lot of people are going to listen to this episode and they're going to have a good hard think about them, what they're going to do yeah they're going to be like what am i doing with my life it sounds pretty good the way she described so thank you so much for coming in and
Starting point is 00:32:31 not only just being honest but actually quite helpful yeah and open about it like i think it's awesome that you know she's on the money has this platform but we can use this platform to talk about things that lots of you in this community are asking questions about or seeing online or wanting to understand more about and i think that you know if we are open and you guys can be open And hopefully we can start having better conversations that are actually deep as opposed to, you know, going, oh, sex work. Yeah, exactly. Don't talk about it.
Starting point is 00:32:58 And I feel like the more you talk about it, the less there's a stigma around it. And it's just going to become a normal thing. 100% Everyone's going to do it. Probably even lawyers will do it. 100%. At the end of the day, you're a content creator. And I don't think you should be ashamed at all about any of the content that you create.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Like you're making money off it. Yeah. And it's just a naked body. Like, who cares? We all have them. You've seen boobs before? May as well get some money off it. I love that yeah well thank you for having me no thank you for coming in
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