She's On The Money - MONEY DIARIES: Staying Financially Afloat & Living On A Boat!
Episode Date: July 3, 2022It's time for our favorite part of the week again, where we get to meet a community member! This week; she learned the value of money early on when both of her parents retired young. Now, she is geari...ng up for a life afloat, and is moving onto a boat with her partner to save money. She's hard working, dedicated and definitely thinks outside of the box, we can't wait for you to meet her!This year our Money Diaries are being brought to you by the legends at Shopback! Check them out at https://app.shopback.com/aus/partner/SOTM and you'll get a cashback bonus when you sign up!Acknowledgement of Country By Natarsha Bamblett aka Queen Acknowledgements.The advice shared on She’s on The Money is general in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. She’s on The Money exists purely for educational purposes and should not be relied upon to make an investment or financial decision. Victoria Devine and She's On The Money are Authorised Representatives of Infocus Securities Australia Proprietary Limited ABN 47 097 797 049 AFSL - AFSL 236523.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, my name is Natasha Nabanunga-Bamblett. I'm a proud Yorta Yorta, Kernai, Wolperi and
Awadjeri woman. And before we get started on She's on the Money podcast, I would like
to acknowledge the traditional custodians of the land of which this podcast is recorded
on Awadjeri country, acknowledging the elders, the ancestors and the next generation coming
through. As this podcast is about connecting, empowering, knowledge sharing and the storytelling
of you to make a difference for today and lasting impact for tomorrow. Let's get into it.
She's on the money.
She's on the money.
Hello and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast for millennials who want financial
freedom.
Welcome back to another Shop Back Money Diary Monday, where we chat to a community member
about them, their story, their finance, their finances.
Their finances.
And all of the fun things in between.
So today, I have an excellent one for you.
Oh, you don't have a good one.
You have an excellent one.
Brand new adjective.
Would you like to hear it?
Yes, I actually want to get a list of adjectives.
I should.
We can just like filter through all of them because that's all we've got.
That's the extent of my copywriting skills.
It's right-click thesaurus.
Genius.
Thank you.
Alrighty.
Well, here we go.
Listen to this.
Our diarist says, both my parents retired when I was 14 to 15 years old.
I learned the value and importance of money early on.
My partner and I are planning to move onto our boat we bought last year to save money.
We won't have to pay rent, water, or electricity.
Money win.
What?
We love a boat story in this office.
Oh my gosh, yes.
Like, this entire podcast has been throwing below-deck vibes for so long.
Money Diarist, welcome to the show. Do you have a below-decks boat?
Hello, and no, not that fancy.
A boat's still a boat. You're doing better than me.
Oh my gosh, yes. Imagine owning a boat. Glenn James owns a boat. He's pretty fancy.
He is pretty fancy.
Let's get into the money questions, though. Money Diarist, are you ready?
I hope so.
All right, let's give it a crack. The first question is, actually,
can you tell us a little bit about your money story?
Well, as you said, my parents retired when I was quite young, still in high school,
and I'm an only child. My parents also divorced when I was, I think, 12. So I lived with mum.
She, yeah, retired. So my guess was on, I'm not sure which thing she was on, but government
allowance. And yeah, it was quite tight. She was quite open with me most of the time about bills
and how much she had in a bank account and it was yeah really scary for a lot of the time
knowing that you had you know a hundred dollars to last the rest of the week or until she got
paid or whatnot but I do think I was still yeah very privileged in she owned her own house and
I never went without what I needed I went to a private Christian school but that was from
inheritance from my grandmother that passed away. What a good use of inheritance. Yeah that was
how cool. The deal that under the age of 21 or whatever it was it could only be used towards
education. Yeah that's quite what a smart grandma. Yeah. She had your back I love that and how old
was your mum when she decided to retire? My parents are a bit older so she had me at 42
so she would have been 54 if you were 12 I think I was 14 or 15 when she retired
so a few more years on but yeah but around about then yeah yeah still young still young enough to
enjoy the fact that she was retiring which is kind of nice as well yeah she's always been she's still
so busy she does a lot of volunteer work and community stuff so she just doesn't stop oh I
love that though. All right. Next question, Money Diarist, is what do you do for work and how much
money do you earn? So I am a full-time university student and I also work as a disability support
worker 30 plus hours a week. Wow. Like full-time and then basically full-time. Yeah. It's intense.
Oh my gosh. And how much money do you earn from that job? Approximately about 60,000 a year.
Hey, that's not bad for a full-time uni student. That's really good. Yeah. All right. Leading
into the next question because I want to know what you're doing with that money. What is your
big money goal? So for my partner and I last year, it was to buy the boat, which we did
at the end of last year. And now we have a few different things pending our life, I guess,
for the end of next year would be to buy an investment house. And then we also want to do
bit of traveling. Very cool. Can I be super pervy? How much does a boat cost? We bought ours for
$40,000. Oh my gosh. That's so much money. I love that. Tell me about your boat though. Like
Jesse's looking at me like I shouldn't be asking these questions. Like what is it? It's like
clearly not a dinghy if you're going to be moving on to it. So tell me about the boat. Yeah. It's
a liveaboard. It's a 35 foot bounty. So it's still small, but it's livable for two people,
I guess. Got a little kitchen or toilet, little like seating area. Everything you need. Are you
going to like more it in a, no, you know what? I'm going to go back to the questions because
Jess is going to get me. Next question is, do you have any investments currently? Apart from super
no. Epic. Next question. Do you have any debts? Just my hex debt. How much is your hex debt,
my friend? I think it's just under 30,000 currently. Not too bad. And how do you feel
about it yeah pretty good so as well with that inheritance I got my oh no sorry it wasn't the
inheritance my parents when I was younger set up a scholarship thing and I think it might have been
twenty thousand dollars was saved and because I have another degree I did when I first finished
high school and that went towards that. So that was awesome. Hey, that's really cool. What was
your first degree that you did? I did a Bachelor of Social Science. Yeah. Awesome. Very cool.
Story checks out. That makes a lot of sense. Next question. Do you currently use Shopback?
Yes. Not often as I don't buy a lot of stuff, but I do use it.
Oh, what did you last purchase on Shopback, my friend?
Protein powder. Oh my gosh. What? I love asking this question because it's always so interesting.
Interesting. Like what kind of protein powder are we talking? Is this like real niche content
or are you like, Victoria, I just got it at Coles? Yeah, I just got back into the gym. We're trying
to, so I thought I better buy some protein powder and yeah. A money win is a money win. Am I right?
Absolutely. All right. What is your best money habit, money diarist? My best money habit I would
say is when I do have a goal, I save really hard. I love that. All right. What is your worst money
habit? So I get a bit stressed out and anxious and I find that say I have a university assignment
or something going on and I have a deadline, I will splurge and buy takeout or treat myself
because I just have to get through that day. I don't know if that's bad. I feel like that's a
coping mechanism, my friend. Like you just said you have a stressful day so you get takeaway to
make it feel better. Like, oh, Jess is looking at me again. She's going to be like, no, Victoria,
some people think that's bad. And I'm like, oh, that's how I live my life and cope with stress.
Mexican food. Everything in moderation. Everything in moderation. That's not the worst.
And Marnie Darius, last question before we go to a quick break. If we forced you to give yourself
a grade, what would you grade your money habits? I think a B. And why would you give yourself a B?
I think I do well in certain areas, but there's also a lot I can improve on.
I love that. I think that seems really fair. I thought she was going to say B, for boat.
Let's go to a quick break. We'll be right back after this.
All right, we are back. And Money Diarist, I want to know what possessed you and your partner to
turn around and go, do you know what? We should buy a boat.
so it's always been my partner's dream to buy a boat as he grew up in a family that sails
and I guess it's become my dream as well since being together and yeah it was really appealing
to find out that you can live on one and save a lot of money doing so and not have to pay rent
oh my gosh so tell me about how that works because you can't do you just like take it out
into the bay and leave it there and you just live on that boat in the middle of the bay like
do you have to pay mooring or something somewhere? Like how does all this work?
So technically you can't live on a vessel for a period of time in New South Wales. So we will
move to Queensland as it's more of a common thing in Queensland and you can live on boats in
Queensland. Oh, you can't in New South Wales? It's only for like a period of time or you have
to keep moving around. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So there's two options. You either live in a marina,
which is a little bit more expensive because you're paying for the facilities and it's just
easier use I guess but it's still severely cheaper than renting yeah and then the other option is a
mooring which is obviously out in the water and you would have to paddle in and out and that is
ridiculously cheap oh which one are you doing my friend I think we'll start out in a marina to get
used to doing that and then the goal is to get out to a mooring. Oh wow and how do you find a
mooring? Do you just go this looks like a nice patch of ocean I'm gonna live right here? I'm not
100% sure yet it's all very new to me I think you like through contacts yeah. Wow how cool so what
happens on the boat so you said you don't have to pay for like water or electricity or anything like
that like what powers the boat then so you have your main batteries and then you have solar panels
and our boat has a wind generator so that's what powers everything and you still have to be quite
cautious of how much energy you use yeah it sounds much more environmentally friendly as well if
you're generating all of that power that you're using from like the elements rather than you know
coal generated power which is quite cool fun little side effect yeah and so talk to me about
work so if you're living at a marina I'm just so interested in the way other people live their
lives so if you're living in a marina do you wake up every morning you have a quick shower on the
boat do your hair do you make up and then go to work like you get off your boat and go to work
is that how that works yeah you have to be very minimalistic I guess and I don't really wear
makeup and I'm just a quick get ready person so either yeah shower at the marina or get a gym
membership and shower there and then also in disability the houses I work at there's like a
bathroom I could use if I really wanted to. Yeah that's quite cool so it like really fits with the
job that you've got and the lifestyle that you're living. Yeah. So talk to me more about how this is
working towards your future goal you said before that you and your partner are saving and you want
to buy a house and all of this other stuff how much quicker are you going to be able to save for
a home because you're living on your boat a lot quicker so at the moment we pay 4.30 a week in
rent so obviously we'll have a few expenses with the boat but counting maybe half of that in each
week it'll be yeah a larger chunk and it will make it a lot quicker have you actually run the numbers
because I'm assuming when you were kind of deciding whether to get out on the boat or
continue living the way you were in terms of what you'll be saving on rent and utilities and all of
those other general lifestyle costs. Yeah. So there's still a few little expenses with the
boat, like the mooring or the marina and whatnot, but I'd say it's approximately $15,000 a year.
Wow. Oh my gosh. And that will obviously get you so much closer to a home so much quicker.
What's the plan then?
You're going to buy, you mentioned before, an investment property.
Is that so that you can invest and then potentially retire early like your parents did?
Or like, what's the plan, my friend?
Both my partner and I love adventure and traveling.
So that's, yeah, really our main goal, I guess, to enjoy life and live it to its full.
We've got some great family and friends around us that have invested and invested well.
so we have their feedback to get into the market as early as possible and yeah build I guess our
retirement off that yeah you said you love adventure will you be I guess using the boat
as a partner like would you travel on the boat as well around Australia or other areas yeah so
that's my boyfriend's big dream and then I'm more of a travel overseas so yeah I really really hope
that we can use the boat and sail overseas. Otherwise, yeah, we'll be sailing around
Australia. You'd save so much money on that aspect as well, because as we know,
we've just booked a trip and flights and accommodation is so expensive. So if you
can take the boat places, in addition to having, I guess, saved on your normal living expenses,
you'd be saving on your holiday as well, which is pretty cool.
Yeah. And the current degree I'm studying is high school teaching. So yeah, I've only recently
found out that I will be able to stop in different places if we do go around Australia and just pick
up casual work. Oh my gosh, how cool. That's awesome. To be really pervy again, what does
your partner do? How's this going to fit with his work and lifestyle? He's a disability support
worker as well. So he said he'd, yeah, just pick up work where he can. Oh my gosh, you are two peas
in a pod or two peas on a boat. I feel like that's really sweet. All right, Money Diarist, you're
going to say like 15 grand extra a year obviously that takes a little bit of financial pressure off
but earlier in the podcast you mentioned that your worst money habit was that you stress about money
how are you dealing with that so I'm still stressed I'm always I'm earning the most I've
ever earned but I still find myself so anxious that I'm not going to be financially secure I
I guess, and be able to be financially stable just in the future.
Why do you think that's the case? Obviously, you've got a good job. You're a uni student.
It sounds like you're a massive hustler. Why do you think that's taking up so much of your
mental space at the moment? I think I've always been a casual
shift worker throughout all the different jobs I've done since school. And I've never had the
Monday to Friday full-time job so yeah just that stability I guess I've never had. Do you find that
it's something that you're craving or is it something you're like oh my gosh everybody else
has this so I want it like is it potentially a bit of you maybe not looking at your own journey
and really comparing your journey to that of everybody around you maybe? I think it's a bit
both. I do wish sometimes to have that routine during the week as doing shift work. I really
struggle with, you know, my own self-care, like going to the gym or appointments, that sort of
thing. And then also, yeah, probably a bit of seeing other people's lives. Yeah. I think it's
one of those things that a lot of people in our community are probably resonating with right now.
they're like, oh my gosh, she sounds so cool. She's just bought a boat. She's saving for a home.
Her and her partner are basically living the dream, but you're still really stressed about
money, which is not where we want to be. So what I would probably look at is really making sure
that you're on top of your budget and cashflow. Like, do you have a really structured budget and
cashflow plan that you go, no, I know what's going on. I do have an emergency fund. I do
know what would happen. I think that once we really start to look at the bigger picture and go,
all right, well, have I got my financial stuff sorted? Yes, probably. Sounds like you do,
my friend. It's actually about working backwards and going, well, where's this money anxiety coming
from? And that's why we always talk about money stories and where they come from. Because more
often than not, as much as money in the everyday is super stressful, this stuff actually is usually
underlying. It could be underlying stress from growing up and before you mentioned your mom and
you know, not having a hundred dollars in the bank account to last the rest of the week until
she got paid. Like this is stuff that I actually really promote people to even just like organize
a time with a therapist or organize a time with a counselor to sit down and go, all right, I need
to talk this through because I'm actually in a pretty good financial situation, but it just feels
all overwhelming and all encompassing. Is that something you'd consider? Yeah, a hundred percent.
I feel like that's unfortunately all we have time for today guys just before we head off can you wrap
the boring but important stuff absolutely so don't forget guys that the advice shared on she's on the
money is general in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances she's on the money
exists purely for educational purposes and should not be relied upon to make an investment or a
financial decision and we promise Victoria Devine and she's on the money are authorized representatives
of InFocus Securities Australia Proprietary Limited,
ABM 47097797049, AFSL 236523.
Good work, Jess.
See you on Wednesday, guys.
See you then.
