She's On The Money - Nartarsha Bamblett on Turning Her Gift Into a Business
Episode Date: June 24, 2025You’ve heard her voice open every ep... but this week, we’re handing her the mic for real. In this Business Diary edition, we’re getting the full download from the magnetic, powerful..., and wildly inspiring Nartarsha Bamblett, aka Queen Acknowledgements. Nartarsha never set out to be a founder. But when her way of doing Acknowledgement of Country started shifting rooms, opening hearts, and creating real connection… the business found her. In this episode, Nartarsha shares how she turned cultural wisdom, community care, and pure presence into a business that’s rewriting the script on what it means to work with purpose... and get paid for it. We talk about:🔥Charging for something sacred, and why that’s not up for debate🔥Turning passion into profit (without the burnout)🔥Building a business that fits around motherhood, not the other way around🔥The reality of saying no, and trusting the right clients will come🔥What work-life “balance” really looks like when you’re building something that matters This one’s powerful and full of the kind of business wisdom you feel - not just hear. Check our Nartarsha's website and Instagram.Join our Facebook Group AKA the ultimate support network for money advice and inspiration. Ask questions, share tips, and celebrate your wins with a like-minded crew of 300,000+.And follow us on Instagram for Q&As, bite-sized tips, daily money inspo... and relatable money memes that just get you.Acknowledgement of Country By Nartarsha Bamblett aka Queen Acknowledgements. The advice shared on She's On The Money is general in nature and does not consider your individual circumstances. She's On The Money exists purely for educational purposes and should not be relied upon to make an investment or financial decision. If you do choose to buy a financial product, read the PDS, TMD and obtain appropriate financial advice tailored towards your needs. Victoria Devine and She's On The Money are authorised representatives of Money Sherpa PTY LTD ABN - 321649 27708, AFSL - 451289.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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My name is Natasha Bamblett, I'm a proud First Nations woman, and I'm here to acknowledge country.
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Hello and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast where we share the secrets to starting,
growing and thriving in your business. I'm your host, Victoria Devine, and today we're
going to be diving into a very special Business Diaries episode with a voice you might just
recognize. She's the powerhouse behind She's on the Money's Acknowledgement of Country,
a trailblazer in this space, an absolutely magic human being, and an absolute force for change.
Natasha Bamblett, aka the Queen of Acknowledgements, welcome to the show even though you're on the show
every week. I know, it's so nice to actually be here and, you know, be with you. I'm so excited,
this is such a good conversation and before, or I know it's going to be a good conversation,
and before we get into it I think we should talk about how we met because offline we were like oh
yeah like how did we meet and we met at it was International Women's Day event and you were a
guest at that event as was I and I remember seeing you you were wearing the most gorgeous I don't
know if you still have it I hope you do zebra dress yes and you looked so hot like I just looked at
you and I was like this woman oh my goodness who is she what does she do and so after like all of
the like formalities happen. I literally went up and introduced myself. I was like, hi, I'm Victoria
and you just look like someone I would want to know. And you're like, um, okay. So that's how
we came to be. Um, and you know, learn more about you and your business and what you did. And then
I was just obsessed. Like I loved the idea of a really meaningful acknowledgement. Um, and I think
that that's where we could probably dive in. What were you doing before? Like let's backtrack before
we actually dive in what were you doing before you were the queen of acknowledgements like did
you see yourself running your own business were you already doing something well I had been doing
it for a little while without it being what it is today as queen acknowledgements but I was just
doing acknowledgements because that was just a part of who you were who I am and bringing that
into the space of who it is that I'm connecting with. And I started dancing. I started with a
group of kids in my shed dancing. And I was like, this is what we're going to do. Because I knew
dancing could connect to all people, music, dancing, moving our bodies. It didn't have,
you know, age, gender, race. It connected us all and it bring joy. And that's where I started.
and from then on it grew into workshops
and my acknowledgements were very short at the start.
I didn't talk much.
I moved my body more than I did my mouth and then it just grew
and somebody just said, Sue, is this what you do?
And I was like, yeah, but like.
It's just for fun.
Yeah.
It's just because I like it.
Yeah, I just do it because I just do it.
Were you always charging for it?
Like were people paying you for this privilege?
No.
I just did it.
just come with me. At what point did you go, this is actually something I need to be charging for?
2020. So it seems still fresh and it was in a time where life was chaotic already. Yeah. And I
started working on myself and found myself in like women's spaces and with sisters who were also had
business. Cause I was like, I don't even know what being a business woman is, even though that I was
doing it. And we're still just all making it up. Now that you're in it, in it, are you like,
oh, we all don't know what we're talking about. We just walk into the room with enough confidence
that people take us seriously. And yeah, then we actually go to our work for the business side of
things. Yeah. Still figuring that out as I go. But I think I just led with myself first. Yeah.
And the business followed. And I think that's been the beauty of discovering
this work that I get to do because I'm just really being my authentic self.
And that is so beautiful. And like, I mean, I don't do anything similar, but like being able
to find your authentic self with the work that you do is so liberating. Like you genuinely don't
feel like you're working and it's very similar with what I do. Like I adore what I do, but I
remember back when I was a financial advisor for a demographic of people I didn't resonate with for,
you know, content that I was like, oh, I just, I really don't love this. I was consistently burnt
out. I was overwhelmed. Like I didn't feel inspired with the work that I do. And now you
might go Victoria Devine, you are crazy. Like you do these crazy hours. You're a mum, you do,
and it's exactly what you do. But like, that's what brings me energy. Like, yes, I'm very happy.
Like last night I ran a webinar from like eight till nine 30 PM. And lots of people will be like,
you did that after a full day of work babe I couldn't wait to do that like I was so excited
I would have been more disappointed if I wasn't able to do that and I think that when you find
that passion like yeah we do need to instill a lot of good work-life balance and they're still
like pushing back to maintain my priorities but it's really about that being nourishing instead
of it being training. Yeah. I find like you, I wake up wanting to work, wanting to do what I do
in service of people because I know it's impactful and it impacts me just as much as it does those
that are in my space. I wake up with creative thoughts of what more can I do and how
more I can, you know, impact people that I haven't seen or, you know, spoke with before.
I love it. Talk to me about how you made it work financially. What was it like going from,
you know, doing this for free? Cause you're like genuinely so passionate about it and that comes
across, but then going, Oh, actually my fee is X. Like, was that awkward or weird? Or like,
I feel like most of us have had that like moment where you're like, either I'm undercharging or
I'm not charging what did that look like yeah so I was like dabbling in the business like one foot
in flirting with it like doing this do I do it do I not do when somebody would approach me thinking
oh wow this is amazing I don't know you know is this what I'm really here to do and still holding
on to a job because that was that's what you're supposed to do like that was what I was told
that's the thing that's like the sensible thing when you're a mom and makes a lot of sense yeah
it does you go get your full-time employed job because that is what the world expects of you
and that fell apart in the most you know blessed way yeah because I had no security blanket and
it was like well here's this thing that I do it's a gift and people are asking about it and wanting
it. So I went in and I had no idea what I was doing. And there was moments where I was
taking gift batches and, you know, a few hundred dollars here and there from it and more asking
like, oh, so like, what do you think? You know, just not understanding that this is a.
And how do you charge? Like that's really, and I'm not asking you how you charge,
but like, how do you work out what value you place on it? Cause it's a service, it's not a
product. And then on top of that, it's a very meaningful service that I think needs a lot of
respect. And to me, it's not like, you know, a service, like an accountant doing your bookkeeping.
No.
Like it's a different, like, how did you go? All right. Well, I feel like this is the right
price to charge. Like, was that a process of conversation or thought or where did you land?
Yeah, it was really hard because I didn't go to school, you know, I didn't study for this. So
it's, it's an ancient wisdom, it's culture and connection. So I'd had a lot of people in my life
that supported me, you know, coaches at the time that were like, okay, so this is a thing. And I
had a lot of other business women that were like, this is, you know, they had a lot of ideas that
they bring to me. Well, I guess I wasn't seeing things the way they were seeing it. So
I think I just started with a price and closed my eyes and press submit yeah you feel a bit sick
so when you first do it you're like they're gonna think that's astronomical and I just I put myself
out there yeah social media was a big you know part of my growing of my business and the platform
to what it is today so you know I was I didn't even have a website I was just like
put it out there and say this is what you're offing what you're doing and people wanted it
so I was like oh well that's not how I thought this would go yeah so then people started booking
yeah and I was like oh this could be as easy and simple as that you know so yeah had to go through
were a lot of limiting beliefs and around making money and what that means and what working for
myself is and you know the whole whole new way of being and living and you know business and
mothering yeah it's crazy isn't it yeah do you like when you first started did you feel that
businesses really understood the value of acknowledgements of country or did you feel
like you also had to educate them to get them on board in addition to doing it because I know that
you probably started from people who you know there was already a pre-existing demand right
and people like we would love for you to do this for us and you go yep no worries but to scale a
business you need to have consistent engagements you need consistent clients was that an education
piece or did you find that you know how did that work? Yeah so when it comes to acknowledgements
or a cultural sentiment piece when you're offering a service
to a business, it's not just itself, it's me as well.
You know, it's all weaved in as one.
And, yeah, there is and there still will be an education piece
and I think that is a part of it.
That is a part of what I get to do is take people along the journey
with me and they learn, you know, from the moment they inquire,
you know through the emails or a conversation and I understand that people are gonna get it wrong
you know they're not gonna understand or have the full knowledge and scope of it
and that's okay and I think maybe that's why they enjoy the process yeah working with me because
you know clients do learn along the process but yeah we're learning and we've still got some more
to learn. But yeah, I understood that this is also a gift that I have. Oh, 1000%. This is not
just a service you provide. And for those of you who maybe you've heard the beautiful acknowledgement
at the start of our podcast, no doubt, but it is only not even a 10th of the energy that you put
into, you know, your live acknowledgements. And we have been privileged enough at She's On The
money to have you you know acknowledge at our live events and oh my goodness like the energy
like there have been times where I'm like if we can't get Natasha I don't want it like I just I
adore the way that you do it people like and you've heard this before I know you have but the way a
room connects the way a room engages with you and the energy that carries on after an acknowledgement
that you perform is so above and beyond anything I've ever experienced and I think that it is
you know in corporate there is definitely and it's not you know a secret we do know that people
often see an acknowledgement of country as a tick box exercise and for me that's heartbreaking
because it can be so much more like even at the crux of it like let's get rid of all of the
conversation about it you are giving people an opportunity to feel a little bit more grounded
at the start of a meeting. Wow. Like that is an opportunity that we don't always get,
but your approach makes it so much more meaningful. What's the difference between,
I guess, a generic acknowledgement of country, someone just reads it off and what you're doing
and how it should be done? Well, it's an embodiment. We can all read off a piece of paper,
but do you actually connect to what it is that you're saying are you feeling it are you meaning
it are you expressing it from a place that is beyond the words and I really encourage people
to take a different insight or a perspective in what an acknowledgement of country is it's not
just about acknowledging the place it's about acknowledging all that exists in the present
moment. And that's just the energy that I bring. And yes. You literally do that in every facet of
your life. Like I swear, I don't know anybody who has the same energy as you. Like even you
walking into this podcast studio, I was like, Natasha's here. I just know like there's an
energy shift. Like, and I think that that's really your connection with like the land,
the waterways the everything you say it's an embodiment I can absolutely see that and I just
that's I think what ends up making me so frustrated when I see people just read it
off a paper I'm like oh you had such an opportunity there like that's you were
already spending the time on it like you were already like oh you just missed it yeah that's
exactly what I see and feel it is a missed opportunity for the person who it's coming from
And as an Indigenous person who's sat in the audience when people have done it, you can feel the difference.
You can feel the difference of those who are saying it to just do it and those who are saying it to mean it and create an environment for all peoples,
whether it's First Nations or just all people in the audience to understand that there's a presence
here and a grounding and an opportunity to connect to the older living culture which I think is a
real blessing and a privilege you know. 100% and the fact that you want to share that with us
like how beautiful that that I just I am obsessed with this idea that that opportunity exists and
that after everything that happens, your culture is still so, oh, we welcome you. We want to teach
you. We want to hold your hands and help you feel as connected as you deserve to. But we don't
deserve that. I think it's my responsibility. I feel a responsibility to my ancestors. I feel a
responsibility to this country that holds this richness that anybody that walks on this land
can feel the custodianship of this place in their time and how that looks for us to care for it,
care for ourselves, our communities, our children, and the country that has been supporting us.
It's all of our responsibility. And as a First Nations person, that's an advantage that I have.
Oh, a hundred percent. And it's just, it's so special that we get to experience that.
but you said before that you know even when I'm sitting in an audience and someone reads off an
acknowledgement of country and they're just their heart isn't in it and you feel it how does that
feel as a First Nations person is that really offensive are you like okay cool they just don't
get it like how do we because from my perspective and I've got no idea I would assume that's pretty
you disrespectful? I'm not like all people. And I just speak from your experience and, you know,
my behalf is that I want to hold their hand and I want to go and connect them to country and to
themselves and allow them to feel what it feels like to acknowledge from the heart and encourage
them to go back out and do it again. But yeah, it definitely feels like, hmm, the meaning of
acknowledgement is to truly feel acknowledged. And sometimes that's missed. And it's literally
in the name. It is in the name. It's right there, guys. It's right there. Yeah. All right, Natasha,
I hate to pull this to a grinding halt, but let's go to a really quick break and we'll dive back in
on the flip side. Let's shift a little bit back to business. This is beautiful, but like we are
talking business. Pricing obviously stupidly hard for anybody, but you are offering something that
people historically haven't been used to paying for. This is something that, you know, is now
being embraced as it should be, but not only have people not paid for it, they haven't included it.
how are you figuring out how to have those conversations or you know when you do up a
quote and go great this is my time my energy my effort this is what I am worth full stop end of
story push back from that yeah there was a lot of interpersonal stuff that I needed to work on just
on a surface level but it's more than an acknowledgement it's more than the word
itself. It is the energy. It is me as a unique being and what I bring to all of it. And anybody
else that does an acknowledgement, it's always going to be different because the person is
different. It's coming from a different place and experience and embodiment. So I've got to
stay true to that. There's times that I've, you know, missed opportunities and lost jobs and
whatnot, but I've had to trust that this is something that I am honoring and understanding
that, yes, it's a cultural, you know, there's sacredness in that, but there's also, I'm here to
hold true to the value and the worth of my time and energy I am a mum yeah and that's like first
and foremost yeah so I have to make sure that it flows in with my life and there's time I'm
you know spending away from my other responsibilities so I need except for the
she's on the money event where you got to bring your babies and I was like this is the best yeah
Yeah, and that's been the, you know, the beauty of it
that I've been able to show up authentically as myself.
It's actually the best.
I'm like, not only do I get Natasha, I get 2.0.
Like, oh, and they're so cute.
So, like, I just feel like this space is so wildly misunderstood
and I would assume, and this is just assumptions,
this is why we're having these conversations
so that you can help guide me as well,
but there is often this expectation that work that we do
out of passion is not for profit, especially women. And then piling on First Nations women,
they have it even harder. There's this expectation that they would discount their rates or, you know,
really want to work with a client. Have you had people question, oh, why would I pay for this?
Or what does that look like? And how are you handling this pushback? Because I know you're
saying, oh, there have been times where I have lost, you know, an opportunity to work with a
client I don't think that any opportunity that misses you was actually meant for you like if
some reason they came into your inbox and you said my price was my price and they said it's too much
like that was not meant to be to begin with and I think letting it go graciously is really helpful
because it's making time and space for those who do really value the work that you do but
how do you have to and how do you have the energy to consistently navigate those questions of people
going, oh, I didn't think I'd have to charge for this or, you know, expecting it to be less because
I even working in the finance space, I'll go, these are my workshop charges. They'll go, oh,
well, actually our budget is this. Can you still do it? And you're like, well,
no. Do you think that I just pulled that number out of nowhere and I just hoped I'd get that?
And oh yeah, no worries. Whatever you've got in your back pocket will do. Like that's less than
10% of my fee. Like that is at this point taking the mickey. How are you having those
conversations with people who just maybe feel like, why should I pay for this, Natasha?
Yeah, there's a few things. One, I feel like as time goes on, I am attracting more of the people
who are aligned and see the fit of the value and my purpose in it. So I am staying on the path of
purpose and profit. Yeah. You know, we're on the path of purpose and profit. Yeah. Purpose and
profit. You know, it's been hard. I come from a community who, you know, we've always just given.
Yeah. And I come from a family that we've just always just given. And I remember realizing that
what do I give best is myself, all of myself. So I've had to understand that giving myself,
I can put a price to that. So that makes things work because let's be real, we need money.
Gift cards don't actually pay your bills. It's a weird flex, but they just don't.
And at least give me like a, like a beauty gift card.
Just give me something I actually want as well.
Yeah.
Yeah. Like give me something that's helpful at least. And you said before, you know, let me put
a price on myself. And there was always a price. It just wasn't financial. You were already paying
in your time and your energy and your effort. And, you know, I would imagine that these things,
they nourish you, they get you in the mood, but you're still going to go home having performed
a very physical task. You're going to be tired. You did spend time away from your family. Like,
yes, you're putting a financial price tag on that today, but historically you've always been
paying for it. And now it's other people's turn to pay for it. That's right. And I was paying more
of a price than anybody else was paying me. And that's just how I was going home. I was burnt.
I was spent. I would have headaches and I couldn't be present in my life for the people who I,
you know loved and cherished the most and that was the biggest price so I said all right if I'm
gonna do this I'm gonna play baby yeah put up the prize and if people meet me then amazing and if
they don't hopefully I can work with them again in the future when they come back and they can
yeah a hundred percent so talk to me about work-life balance you have two beautiful boys
and you have a mini on the way you're gonna be or you're a mum of three yeah three that's a full car
Oh yeah, exactly. Like you are going to have to go to a seven seater at some point, babe. Like,
I don't know. I wouldn't be mad. And as somebody who now has a one-year-old, I get it. Like I'm
going to need some more babies. Like I adore it. But how are you managing work-life balance? Because
personally I'm finding it really challenging. Like I want to spend so much more time with Harvey.
Like I just obsessed with him. When he falls asleep, I'm watching videos of him that I took
that day on my phone like I never thought I'd be that mum Natasha but we're here so how are you
managing work-life balance what does that look like I'm not sure if I'm managing of it see I
don't believe in it for me yeah or if it like it just manages itself yeah and I've got a 10 year
old and a two year old yeah so you know there's vast differences and demands that's a lot of
different needs I can lump them in and be like you guys are both going to enjoy Duplo because
your 10 year old is going to be like, mom, what the hell? Yeah. Yeah. He's, he's more like a
teenager than anything. So they have seen me since they were babies doing what I do and they know it
and they respect it and they trust mommy to do what I'm doing because they've seen what it does.
So I have a great family and partner and support network. Does that mean it's easy? Absolutely.
not. I have had moments where I've, you know, just wanted to curl up in a ball and you call me
and I will deal with it. You call me, anybody pushing back in your emails, I write a nasty one.
Oh, and I also have, you know, been able to grow in my business with people in a team. And
I have my wing woman who just comes in and helps me out. So having people in your network,
whether it's somebody that works for you or just someone that you can call
and say, hey, I need this or can I ask you this
or can I tell you this and this because what you're feeling is real
and life's always not going to look like pretty Instagram reels.
Oh, my goodness, but we're so good at making them
and lulling people into this false belief that that's my entire life, right?
and I think that that's the reality of it have you found a really beautiful network of people
to support you in that way yeah I have in many facets physically emotionally spiritually
culturally financially family and has that shifted and changed and grown and stretched and shrunk
over time as I've changed and evolved and grown into the person that I want to be people in my
circle change. Yeah. And it's wild, isn't it? People that you thought were going to be around
forever. Yeah. Wow. We not, not, you just haven't disappeared, but like you just don't align with
anything I stand for anymore. Yeah. And I think when you are in business, especially as a woman,
it can feel lonely, you know, and I've felt those moments in my life throughout 10 years of trying
to figure this out but it's trusting your conviction and your purpose more than the
challenge that you face in the moment yeah and people will show up people will show up when
sometimes you're not even looking or expecting it yeah I love that you mentioned before that your
kids see respect what you do like they know they trust mum to go and do her work what are you
hoping that they take away from this? Like you mentioned before, like Vy, I didn't go to school
to learn this stuff, but like they're getting an education by watching mum like start a business,
like mum can do it. Like I feel like you're teaching them so much, but what are your hopes
for what they take away from watching you do this? Yeah. The legacy that I want to leave
is the wealth and knowledge instilled in my children that they can thrive in both worlds
yeah and that being culture and that being in the world of business and making a life for themselves
in however that fits and that they don't have to fit into any boxes yeah and if they want to
make a pathway of sharing their culture and their connection, they can do so. And if they don't,
then they get to choose. So fine. They've got the choice. They get to choose and the choice is
theirs. I love that so much. Talk to me. You said before, you know, it's not all pretty Instagram
reels. What's a day in the life actually look like? You're like, I don't really know. I'm the
same. Like what day do you want? Like Wednesday, I'm in a studio all day. Thursday, who knows
what I'm up to. Like, I don't even know. For me, I try and have my mornings and
nighttime routines very the same. I love that. I was a free spirited gypsy that would just do
anything and anything wherever it would call me. I would be, you know, at any different place at
any different day. But these days I'm grounded. I'm committed to my practice that connects me
to my body wholly like wholeheartedly mind body and spirit so I meditate in the morning and my
children usually gravitate towards me and then I love once I know that they're present it's like
mom mode until the children are settled and eating and quiet and then I go into work mode and
work days each day are different because the demands are different but you know I'm still
in the emails you know so still very humbled by the work that I get to do and then some days
I look glamorous and I'm on stage in front of thousands of people that's very cool but then
other times you're just meditating in your lounge room and your kids climbing all over yeah yeah
and like I love that there's yeah hairs mess and look honestly I don't trust people who have it
together all the time I'll give you got perfect hair all the time like I know that my photos
online make me look like that. I do not. I look like I have a rat's nest most of the time. And
you know what? That's why you can trust me. That's why. Talk to me about, I feel like,
you know, throughout your journey, there would have been things that, you know, stressed you out
in the early days. Is there something looking back, you're like, oh my goodness, V, I was so
stressed about this. And now I look back, it didn't even matter. Like, have you had those moments
where you're like, I don't know why I gave that so much energy. It literally means nothing today.
yeah two big things stand out for me one pricing yeah I was like if I do this no one's gonna like
me and want to buy from me and think that I'm you know all these things that I'd had
internalized of my own judgments right yeah myself and thinking that I couldn't do it and
it wasn't possible but as soon as you do it and somebody purchases or you know books you have no
push back and you're like wait should I be charging more you know having this mini panic
attack and then you know as soon as you get there everything just feels easy and you know I've had
moments where I'm like can this really be my life is this real life is this what I get to do
yeah so and I get to go to fancy fun events and connect with people and I'm just like this is my
life and one time you know I've had my partner there with me and you know it is it has been a
family affair sometimes that we've had you know my parents involved and and it's just like I get
to spend time with my family and make money and be of service and have impact so that's a good deal
yeah I'm like sign me up for that I want more of that so that was one and then the other one was
social media yeah okay talk to me about social media social media is a platform where you're out
there for people to see you and hear you and are open to their judgments and opinions and I remember
being really afraid of it wasn't being out there but it was being myself yeah okay out there you're
Like you can put pictures of me everywhere, but like showing you who I really am, that's
a different story.
I can pick the best one, you know, the one that looks the most prettiest.
Yeah, we're so good at that, right?
Yeah.
You know, the photoshopping or whatever that looked like back then.
But now I'm like, let's just in real life showing up because the reactions and responses
that I get from particularly women and mothers they're just like I needed that yes I needed to
hear that and I needed to see you show up in that because that's what's going on for me too
and the connections that I've made from showing up authentically as myself I'm now addicted to it
yeah yeah and it just gets better and better yeah it does like it's wild how much emphasis we put
on the value of someone's opinion, that's an individual we'd never want to trade places with.
Yeah. And you're like, hold on, why am I valuing that opinion at all when I don't want to be
anything like them? Like why am I taking feedback from a place that doesn't get me? Yeah. And so I
think that's very hard and it's genuinely still something that I struggle with. Like I'm not,
and I think as you grow, like your business grows and changes and things ebb and flow,
I go through periods of being really confident and putting lots of content out. And then you're
like, oh, this is actually really big. And you kind of like feel yourself pulling back and you
have to like do some more inner work and be like, well, why am I feeling this way? And it might be
because it's become overwhelming again, or maybe you did get some negative feedback and you took
it on board, but you needed to zoom out and go, actually, that was so not valid. Like that was,
you know, I like to look at all pieces of feedback and go, you know, can I learn something from this?
because you know the loudest voices they might not be correct but consistency is what I look for
yeah so I think that you know if someone's consistently saying x or y I'm like okay cool
like where's this coming from is this something that I could learn from grow from change that's
right and let's implement that and that can be hard in itself because like we don't like being
told we're wrong we don't like feeling like we're doing the wrong thing or like we do need to change
but that can be liberating in itself and I just I resonate so much with that because it's just so
relevant yeah and the as time goes on the the more I've felt confident in who it is that I am
and there's many parts of me yeah I play many roles you know and Natasha just gets to be all
of them at any given moment. But there's been times, especially culturally, you know, there's
cultural protocols and, you know, different areas and mobs do different things. And I'm learning.
I am no expert, no guru in this, this life and field and, you know, subject of culture by all
means. So yeah, I've had moments where people have come to me, checked me, and I always go back to
my family and you know there's go back to your support group you can go back to and be like okay
cool so I heard this and um always open with a curious mind and an open heart like I said to
learn and receive you know feedback and take from that what works and also if you know who you are
and where you come from like that's a really good place to to be and start and to always go back to
whenever you need. Yeah. And I think it can be overwhelming, especially if you're a woman in
business, like you just, you're already putting yourself out there. That feels really unnatural,
but I think I make peace with the fact that I know inherently I'm good. I am kind. Everything
I'm doing is coming from a place of love. And at the end of the day, yes, I'm not going to be
correct a hundred percent of the time. In fact, if I think I know everything I need to get out
of the game because like this game is always moving. Yeah. And so I think if I'm always doing
it with the right intentions, that's always going to ultimately shine through. That's right. And I
think that that really helps me go, no, even if I'm turning up and I say something silly online
or I do this or do that, like go back to my roots, you know, that inherently I'm operating in good
faith. And I think to me, that's the most important thing. Talk to me. I know that I'm running out of
time with you and I hate that. Talk to me about what you think is the most important skill that
you have that has led to success in your business. Adaptability. Oh, I love that. She's so quick at
that response. She's adaptable. Like you said, there's always things changing, moving, evolving,
things become relevant and irrelevant very quickly in this time but just learning to be adaptable
assessing the moment every room that I step in to do what I do is different yeah even if there
are a bunch of women in each room yeah it's always different woman has an energy with you know like
that you're doing the event for every event's different so just being able to adapt the energy
to that has been a skill that I've grown over time. And I love that because it's so relevant,
but it's also so hard to hone in on. Like that is not something that is easy. And like as somebody
who hates change, like I need to learn more from you about being more adaptable because
that's not usually for me. Now for First Nations women and people who are listening to this and
they're like, my goodness, like I'd love to do what Natasha does. What advice do you have for
them because obviously you're not going to get into this space if you don't have that background
but then also I feel like I speak to so many beautiful people in our community who are First
Nations women and they you know they just don't have the confidence they deserve to have like you
are so powerful and so beautiful and if you just stepped out like you could be exactly who you say
you want to be yeah I see this see this in my family in my community there are sisters out
there that have got it that have got magic you know we call that you know black magic you've
got a gift you've got something to give and each person does but to my sisters I would just say
follow the calling trust yourself you're here for a purpose and a greater purpose at that that we
come from 65 000 plus years of lineage and ancestry and warriors and if you feel a calling
to share that then find women who are already doing it get connected get them a part of your
network and sometimes we just have to like copy and paste and then put our own essence into it
you know like follow what works I say we don't need to reinvent the wheel no like jump on the
things that are already moving and working and put your own self-story essence and flavor into it
because no one is you and you're going to bring something different to every room and experience
I love that that is genuinely so powerful and I feel like this whole conversation has felt like
people who listen, I feel like they're just going to feel your energy. Like they're going to feel
grounded. They're going to feel like this was really, really powerful for them. And I feel
like we've covered so much. We've discussed, you know, the different challenges you've faced in
your business. We've talked about pricing. We've talked about, you know, how to get people around
when it comes to acknowledgements of country and making sure that you are actually acknowledging
the country. We've talked about, I guess, the financial realities of like not getting paid
in potentially losing clients because we're just going to put some boundaries in place and that's
so important. But I think you and I can both agree, the more you put those boundaries in place,
the more the right clients find you. That's right. Like it's crazy. You say no to people and you're
like, oh my goodness, am I doing the right thing? And then around the corner, there is another
client that is bigger and better and exactly what you were looking for. Like it's crazy how that
works. And I think people often don't understand the value and the reality of running a business
and also being a mom. I am learning real quick. You have been doing this for 10 years and I just,
I'm so grateful to have you share your story with our community, but also kind of just a little bit
of a mentor today. So I'm grateful for that. Thank you so much. No, thank you for having me.
Of course. My goodness. I feel like that is a perfect place to end Natasha. I adore this and
I feel like, honestly, one of the most powerful business Bible episodes I've ever done. But for
anyone who's listening, thinking, holy moly, this woman does have that energy. She does have that
vibe. I need more of her in my life. Where can I find the Queen of Acknowledgements?
You can find Queen of Acknowledgements on Instagram, as the name suggests,
Queen Acknowledgements, or on my website. And I look forward to all the new connections.
Or in any of our show notes.
She's right there, guys.
Or you might find me on stage at an event you find yourself at.
Oh, if you should be so lucky, Natasha.
Yeah, and please come and say hello because I'd love to give you space.
Oh, my goodness.
All right.
Well, I'm going to link literally everything in the show notes.
You're in all the other show notes as well.
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