Sh**ged Married Annoyed - Please Keep Me Anonymous With Olly Murs

Episode Date: January 11, 2026

This week, Rosie and Chris are joined by the one and only Olly Murs who brings his trademark energy and cheekiness! Expect a deep dive into everything from being a dad to two under two, doing karaoke with Mark Wright and how his family and friends will always keep him grounded. All of this plus a brilliant 'Please Keep Me Anonymous' from one of you lovely SMAS! If you would like your story to be read out by a special guest, email the podcast [e-mail] Olly’s new Album ‘Knees Up’ is out on November 21st  You can catch Olly Murs and Mark Wright each Saturday morning on their Heart Radio Breakfast show. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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me anonymous this week we've got the gorgeous Olly Mears joining us oh what a lovely chat we are with OLLI is such a nice guy so lovely and you're gonna notice where you actually started recording and we were having such a lovely chat we didn't want to like abruptly say it like we're gonna start it's weird in it yeah we didn't want to interrupt the floor yeah so it's weird when people come into that little studio and we're like oh you start chatting the cameras go on then you don't want to go hey hey save it yeah don't you dare so we just sort of and I think it's because you're gonna hear it in a minute we were chatting about like how

weird it is having a job as a format and how it's good to be brought back down to earth by people who are the closest to you and it was just really natural. He sounds like he's got the same kind of mate as me. Yeah, absolutely. We really hope he enjoy it. He chat, let's about how he's now a dad of 2 under 2.

2.1, Dad 2. Wild. He was in the older category of your next family which we can't get our heads around now. It blows my mind. Over 25's old. Mad. Crazy. He's also talking about his new music.

He's got an album called Nase Up, which is out on the 21st of November. It features the singles run. this town bonkers and save me and they're all amazing tunes. Just we'll chat about them a little bit. And you can listen to Ollie and Mark Wright's Breakfast Show on heart radio every Saturday morning

but before you do that, listen to this. We had a fight about the jingle. We couldn't settle on a jingle. So this is the jingle jingo. We hope you like the jingle. Jingle, babadoo, babadoo, babo, babo, babo do. Jingle.

Not to make it serious. No, I love this. I love it. Have we learned, probably? It's not, it's just mad stuff for. We did like, like, so we did like an arena tour

and you see people at their sort of like most vulnerable. So I think we've seen each other. But then also, God, being parents like that. Yeah, so you see all of the building up, all of that, I'm nervous, I'm this and that, we see like every second of it with each other. So the park, the arena tour, I would have two arena tours as the what intense.

Well, I'm an artist So I'm an artist So I'm a lot of what I do Yeah So for you guys just being Parents, comedians Family, husband, wife All of a sudden

You mean all of it together Yeah All of a sudden you're now being Put on a stage in front of 12, 13,000 people You're like What the hell is it? It's a lot But because it's not normal life is it?

No, it's not You know like We talk about this a lot of singers It's not normal But when you're performing In front of millions of thousands of people it's just one person with a microphone singing all, two people with a mic talking.

These people are all there to see you and you're like, this is just like a big, it takes your brain a bit of a second to like understand it all. Yeah. And process it definitely. Like even doing live TV, if you think for any, like most people at home just see what we do and think that is just natural.

That's just normal for us to watch you on TV, do what you do. So then when you make a mistake or you do something not right or you like, what's going on here? Ain't a normal job, is it? Just snap. Talking on live TV and everything you say, they are taking in what you say. But I suppose the knack, the skill of it is making it look like it's effortless

and making it look like it's normal, and making it look like it's taking a breath. But it's like they're just not normal jobs, are they? You know what I mean? Like you think of the list of jobs that are out there, like the jobs that we get to do are not particularly... I've got mates. I feel like we've got... I've got a mate who builds cars in Nissan,

in a Nissan factory builds cars. And you've gone about being tired about after work and I can't comment. I can't go, I'm tired as well. He fucking builds cars. Like, I can't,

how dare? But I think this is, I think our job is exhausting. It's exhausting, but it's not, it's not on their level. No, no,

it's a different type, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. With, over the years, I've tried to like, get my head around the fact that my mates

have all got regular jobs and obviously my job but their job is more, might be more physical labour. Yeah. But mine is actually more of a mental, oh, God, yeah. It's a more of a mental,

fucking, your brain is just exhausted from thinking about what to say, what to do next, where I'm going. Pressure. Turning up everywhere you go and be like, on it. Because if you're a mechanic and you're underneath a car, you can fucking be angry and be in a week of life and you ain't got to worry about a camera being stuck in your face.

Because if we're annoyed and angry, we're like, oh, hi, everyone. To a one show. You know, I need to talk about my new album. You've just got off the phone. You've had an argument with a missus or something. But I've got shelved that for half an hour. Exactly.

And then I can have me break down. There's always that wonderful moment in, The Katie Perry film. Did you ever see the Katie Perry film? When she's just going through me. And she goes up the shoe. And I really didn't relate to it. But I was like, I can imagine that feeling of being an artist

where you're like, I've got all these thousands of people waiting. I've just had some really shitty news. I remember I was in Vegas on a tour. And I just found out that my granddad died. And it was just like, what the hell? And I'm just about to go on stage. I just said to my team, I can't be here. This is like, my head's not in the right game.

But then I was like, all I could hear was. thousands of people cheering. I'm like, you've got a shelve it. I have to go out. You have to shelve it. So I had to like, my emotions were all over the place.

And I was like, angry, upset. How's my dad? I want to be home. Yeah. Millions of miles away. What do I do in this situation?

And then it brought me back to that Katie Perry moment. Like, well, she just was like, I've got to do this. And so I did. I just went out and did the performance. And afterwards I then, you know,

and that's my job, isn't it? The show must go on. But like my mate, my mate who works at Nessand. constantly winges about how tired he is and I didn't realise that he does it all the time

until I was out with a larger group of friends and he came in and they all went oh you're tired off work are you and I thought oh my God he does bang on about it but I've never took the piss out of him because how dare how dare you mind

you always winch about being tired to your fucking lazy prick and it's like I can't have a gortem for that one of the thing is my mates used to dig me out because I would I'd be like you don't you don't realise

what I've been out oh shut up maz yeah yeah you do is just stand there and sing songs so actually what i've done was i brought my mates to a day with me on tour right to see the preparation before like the start to the end wow and honest of god since that day my mates were like you know what allie fair play yeah you've got a new perspective that's amazing he was like they were genuinely they were so naive they were like we just thought you turned up and like half seven quarter to eight you know you get your makeup done and your hair done

you do a few vocal warmups then you just go out on stage right i think my makeup were quite a surprise actually like oh you do actually work quite hard. I'm like, yeah, I actually do. I love that you are so adamant to win that you talk them with you. I mean, by the way, I know all my mates work extremely hard. I think it was more of like in my defence. I was like, hang on a minute, guys. Yeah.

What, yeah, fair enough. Like, I do get days and weeks off. But in the periods that I am working, I do work extremely hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And whenever your friends come to see you, they're on and out. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.

Every time all my maids come to see us, They're literally they're half cut and they've had a great night watching us on stage, like doing our thing. They're on a night. Oh, it's great. Well, I'll tell you a really funny story. I was in a tour in Wales. I did a tour in Wales in Cardiff and all my mates are like, we're coming down. It's on a Saturday.

We're going to get the train early. We're going to come down. I mean, literally started at like 9 o'clock, 10 o'clock in the morning. They've gone to a weather spoons. They've been drinking all day, right? I think your mate's on my miss. I think we've got to see. They turn up at Cardiff at like 6 o'clock, whatever, half-fire.

They've gone to the hotel, checked him, whatever. They've turned up. And my tour manager's like, the boys are in. I'm like, right. And he's facing it all. Right. He went, like, they're, they're there. They're already gone.

Yeah. They've already had a few drinks. So I've walked up to my dressing room and they're chewing all the bands. It's off because that's the only place we could stick them. So I've gone upstairs. I'm like, sorry, lads. They're like, loud Essex. Everything's like, you know what I mean?

Brath. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so I've said low to him at a right laugh. I said, look, go and enjoy. Ella Reyes performing first. She was my support act and Ella's brilliant, right?

So they've gone out to watch Elearair and then I didn't see him after that because they stayed in the Cardiff show for the whole night so I'm performing. I've come off stage anyway, they've come backstage and they're so pissed they're so drunk. Yeah.

And I'm like, oh gosh, I say hello to them. Like, so I was just not. Different vibe. I'm completely sober. Yeah. They are like, I'm 10 pints behind them. Yeah. If not more.

So I'm like, they've come out and my tour manager is having a go at one of them because basically he said, oh, did you enjoy the show guys? They went, oh, Ella Air was amazing. She was brilliant. Oh, we couldn't like, oh, he was great. And Mark went, what about Ollie?

They were like, oh, yeah, yeah, he was all right. This is after you, done yours. They were so drunk. And then when I suppose the guys afterwards next day, they were like, Ollie, we're so sorry. We can't actually remember your show. We were so drunk. But what that is.

They just got. the best bit of Elere by the way she was amazing when they actually went to see their best mate I was like they didn't have a clue what the show is though

that's they're your best friend they're not your fan yeah yeah exactly our friends are the same they're not like so my friends I could tell they were actually motivated my two very best friends

in the world somebody we are in a group and someone was talking about the podcast and anytime anyone talks about the podcast in front my best friend they don't listen right

so they get really like embarrassed because my friend another friend was going oh when you said that and I'm going yeah yeah my friends are going don't let's us do not ask us about this podcast because we don't listen I haven't listened for years I could tell they were like oh god she knows we don't listen and they're gonna fucking talk about anyway oh by the way yeah it was this is taking me way back I was at a new year I was at my family's new year's eve party yeah and dance me tonight was currently number one in the charts and it had been out for a while

yeah and we were singing and my mom my family were like put dance me tonight on like Like it's, you know, it's a brilliant song. We played it. And my mum was dancing to me. And she was singing the, she wasn't even singing the right lyrics. I mean, it was way off the actual song. I'm looking around going, you having to wind up. It's been out for like five, six weeks.

Literally everywhere. It's on everywhere. I mean, genuine. At the time, I think it was at number one for like two or three weeks. Brilliant. Like, it was the most play day of play record of that time. I'm like, my mum must be. I'm thinking it's my mom.

Yeah. She's obsessed for me. That's my son's song. Well, no, clearly. She's going, I just want to. She didn't even know the dance with me tonight bit. She got it completely wrong. The fucking name of the song.

Half her through the, half I went through dancing with her. I was like, Mom, like, pulled this face. Do you actually even know my songs? But do you know, I think that keeps you grounded, though? It does. Like that, yeah. I think you know people in this industry who are surrounded by yes people. Yeah.

Just constantly. And they don't, they're not on this planet. No. They just... Well, that was one thing when I first got into it. I was like, I could see straight through people. Like I was just like, what is this? Like people come up to me just saying like all this bullshit.

Bullshit. Yeah. I'm like, shut out, mate. Yeah. This isn't, I'm not real life. The two cheek kisses. Mois and Mwa. And darling, you were this.

And oh, get crawl out of my asshole and fuck off. The thing is as well, I think when I first started this, like, I was just a regular Essex boy and when I used to go out and party and go clubbing like you know chatting up girls was a hard gig you know like it was like you know really got a graft here yeah and you know when I come off X Factor I was just like going to these you know it was like single I was out in clubs and like these really hot unbelievable Victoria secret like models would come up to him be like all right and you're like I remember once being this bar and they both these two women come up to me at the bar and we're just like all right

how are you you having a good time and I just looked at them I said look ladies I'm really sorry but you're barking up the wrong tree like I know exactly what you're after and that is not and like most of my mates my mates people like what you do I was like but you could have got swept up in that no but it's kind of like that fake industry yeah

I was so aware of like stories being sold or especially at the time with like the news of the world and stuff I was just thinking like Olly Mears cheeky chippy chippy single light out and about I didn't want that kind of smoke if anything and I was very aware of like I think being 25 I was sort of aware more so that I don't want to get

myself quite up in stuff like that but were you in that older category I was yeah oh my god you were you were in the oldies? I was in that oldies so depressing that's the older categories any man at our age now we're like they ain't old it's not old I remember being a kid watching it and being like oh the geriatric here comes you over 25's like oh bless them

here comes the Werther's original squad Have you got their own teeth? Oh my God, it was? I remember because Simon Cowell was backstage behind the camera sign. I really wanted the over 25s. And I was in that category. And there was Dan Johnson at the time. He was sort of, I think he was around 26, 27, Jamie, Jamie Archer.

He was about 30, I think. So we just wasn't in that. And I had just turned 26. So I was just in that category. I think I'd just turned 25, sorry. So I was just in that category. didn't realize why that Simon wanted me in his category he wanted me, he wanted to take us and obviously get me to the final

and hopefully win it. But yeah, like, now I look back now and isn't that weird though? As you get older, you see things online and you think, like, I would have thought I was old being in the other 25s, but now I'm 41 looking back, I'm like, God, I was so young still. I'll tell you what, right? We haven't even discussed this. Yesterday we checked in a hotel, and this is the oldest I've ever felt in my life, right?

as a young lad behind the desk checking us in and he was asking you know are you down for business or pleasure and all that stuff and then I go to the hotel quite a lot so another young lad who I know came and stood next to him and asked him what we're being up to

and I said oh we're down for too nice to do some interviews for the podcast and it's just been half term we've just had two weeks a half term and they both went whoa two weeks they were coming at half term

from the perspective of a fucking child they both were like oh you get two weeks weeks off and I went, no, no, prick. I've had me kids for two weeks. I'm fucking demanded. But their immediate reaction because they were close to my children's age than they are

in my age and they work in a fucking hotel and they were like, wow, two weeks off school, dude, that's amazing. And they jumped over the counter and smacked them both. I was so angry. I went to spot it when it wasn't good and he went oh yeah, I'm just thinking about when I was a kid and I was like you're fucking 12, you're about 12 years old. Yeah, because he was close to being a kid than you was region. I was

absolutely raging. You know what? I got on the Orlando flight back from Universal Because you've just been there for the radio show? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've just been there. And it was so amazing, looking down the aisles of all the parents. But literally. Did you take the kids with you?

No, I couldn't. They were too young. I mean, Maddie's only 18 months. And obviously, Albert's only like nine weeks old. Yeah, just not old enough yet. And then, but it was so funny going down the aisles and seeing all the families and parents because we were doing it for our radio station that we're on. And just seeing how all the parents were completely.

Grumbled. They were like, they're like great half-term holiday for the kids, but we're like, they're like in their chairs like, oh God, we did Disneyland Paris in,

when was it August? August. Fuck me. We were flying to London once, just near the Christmas time and there was two, we were right, remember,

we were right at the front of the plane and there was two air steward stand in front of us and I overheard. I had my AirPods in, but I didn't have anything playing. I do that quite a lot to hear people's conversations.

A bit of spy. Oh, interesting. Love it. I did not know that. I did not know that. You pretend to hang it. You pretend to. to have your headphones in.

I've got them in, but they're not playing. Sometimes I'm good, sometimes I'm doing that. Stop it. Stop it. Something, something dance,

something tonight. Something, something tonight to dance tonight. That's fun. And they literally, yeah, and they were going, I'm told you,

man, I'm sure I said it on the podcast. That's weird. You never told me that. No, not that. No, what said, what was said. They literally were talking.

And one of them was like, I've got the Lapland flight next week. And the other one went, oh, he went, I'd rather do the midnight flight back from a betha

than the Lapland flight Apparently the Lapland flight is just carnage with all the kids It's basically 50, 50 kids to adults and there's just like fucking crisps and sweets and screaming and just mayhem on the flight

I mean that's an interesting question He said he would rather do the flight back from Ibitha with everyone like Would you though? I wouldn't That's what the guy said That's what the guy said

He worked on them and he said the flight back from Ibita With the drunk people No mate I'm really sorry But you've got that completely wrong He just doesn't like kids Do you know you can go Put a lapland in a day.

Apparently. That's the magic. See, for me personally, if I'm on a, this is how I would have thought, a Lapland trip with loads of screaming kids, I could easily put my headphones in.

Yeah. I'll be fine. But on a flight to a beefer with loads of rowdy people being so bad. I'm not sure I could. Be like that gig all over again with your mates.

Yeah. Just, um, I agree with you there. And I'll just be like, oh no, like, get me out of here. I totally agree. Babadoo, babadoo, babadoo, babadoo, bah.

You've got an album coming out, knees up, two days time. I know. Congrats. Thank you. What's it been like? Are you enjoyed it? You know what? It's been really fun.

I started the album late last year after I'd literally just... Hang on, you've been knocking out Sprogg's left right and centre. Right. Can I just add? When have you done this album? No, so I came off the back of, I take that tour last year. And I had an amazing time. And so we sat around as a team and said, look, it's been so positive.

The tour was incredible. Yeah. And I just signed a new record deal with BMG. And we just felt like we needed to come off. And we had the plan of doing the 15 year anniversary tour, which was an amazing tour to do. I just felt like it would be nice to just write some music and see creatively what we could come up with. Yeah. And so, you know, BMG came to the tour.

They loved what I did with take that. were interested in signing me. So anyway, got the ball rolling. I then went in the studio and started writing songs at the end of the year. And it was going okay.

Nothing really was exciting me, but it was getting the juices flowing again and getting into that writing zone. And then at the start of the year, out of nowhere, we wrote this song called Save Me, which was a sort of SCAR record, a SCAR song.

Yeah. And it kind of like infused this like, I don't know, this energy in me and this kind of, I don't know, I just went on this like, I don't know, I just felt a,

amazing. I started losing weight. I started doing all my training as well. I was getting ready for the tour. Oh, I saw you'd lost weight in the paper. Yeah. Oh yeah. That was crazy. Yeah, what the fuck? It was all a It was all the fuck. It was about like, um, what were dad bod and shit like that? What was it? Tough luck, Holly. Your fans, you'd like, you. Basically, in a nutshell, I'm probably going to get this wrong, but it was on the lines of, tough luck, Holly. We, we preferred you with a dad bod than your fans prefer you with a dad bod than they do with your new bod or something. You can't win. You can't do anything. I can't win, man. I could not win. I was just, I was just kind of like annoyed because I was in such a good place. I was getting ready for the biggest tour of my life.

I'm writing a really exciting album. I've got my wife's pregnant. Like it's just really really exciting. And I was just kind of like that kind of did kind of give me a little dig. Sorry, I didn't really. No, no, no, no. No, it really annoyed me because I'm never done, as we all do when we're losing weight or we're on a diet or whether we just make slight adjustments to our life. Yeah, yeah.

I wasn't doing it to like, I don't know. I wasn't trying to, I wasn't on, you know, I was. wasn't like going to the paper saying I'd follow my 12 week plan and you could look like me. I would just, my nutritionist actually put the photo out. I didn't actually post it and then it kind of spiraled. Well, I did for the start of the year because I really wanted to get like, I wanted to be a 40 year old, the best Olly Mers I could be on stage for my fans.

I really wanted to be just show people that in 15 years, this is who I am now. Yeah. And then being a dad as well, I felt really tired. I felt like the start of the year after Christmas. You know what it's like? we're all like, oh God. So I just like... Just the recycling bins. After Christmas, the recycling bins alone.

We're just cleaning out the garage of all the, all the next line of presents comes in and you're having to do this kind of... I think hitting 40. I'm 40 next year. We're both 40 next year. And I think you get to a stage in your life where death becomes more prominent in your life. And you want to not like, you want to, what's the word, put it off while you? No, I think you want to... No, I'm sorry.

When I was 25, I lost way to look good. I didn't think I want to be healthy for longevity. So I think the point that we're at now, all three of us here, halfway, if we are halfway, that's the best possible result. If you're going to get to 82, that's a hell of an age. Well, I always think it's mad, in it. Like, people say this generation, and maybe I'm wrong in saying this, but this generation is like they say it's going to be the healthiest generation.

Yeah, I think so. But then in my mind, I've got two grandparents that, both in their, well, my wife's grandparents are in their 90s. Mine are in their sort of mid-80s. And I think actually when you look back, especially in the 40s and 50s and 60s they were living in, the food consumption would have been a lot healthier. They didn't have processed food.

No processed food. I mean, obviously they went through the cigarettes and all the 80s and 90s. But I would say like, you know, that's still around now. We're in a society where that's still there. you know what I mean but I don't know I hope this generation will be and that's what I'm trying to do

I'm trying to be less eating processed food I'm trying to eat more of the fruit and more of the veg and almost more of them sort of home-cooked meals really like real good quality food she calls it meat and two veg

don't you yeah just have meat two veg exactly when I'm trying to be good I'm trying to cut weight for them for them UFC fights you have

I'd just go on like a like just basic just meat meat meat that it's different isn't it I always, I do think this is a, I think we're more aware of our health in this generation than maybe my grandparents were back then. And the younger generation, but I do think they ate better than us, especially in the early days. I mean, some of the, this is not digging out of my parents, but some of the stuff I used to eat

when I was a kid. Are we talking to turkey twizzlers? We're talking to turkey twislers. We're talking to turkey twislers. We're talking microwave burgers. Yeah, yeah. I mean, my mother then always laughed. But they, you know, they were on, you know, we were well budget food.

Like we, you know, we, you know, my mum and they didn't have. have a lot of money. So we just was got all we were given. And of course, Ramon Dad made good dinners for us. But a lot of the time it was like, they need to be fed. What can we get them? Chippan chips. Exactly. Did you have a chip pan? The microwave. The McCaigne's. Microchips. Microchips. Yeah. Every Saturday night was chicken nuggets and microwave chips. Oh, with a nice mullah yogurt as well. How are you feeding the kids? Do you feed them really well? Amelia's really on it. Yeah. She's brilliant. And, you know, again, it's getting a balance, isn't it? Not always.

the time can you, when you're on the go constantly. So Meeley does all that batch cooking stuff. Yeah. And she's very, very good at it. But then some days and some weeks, it's just chaotic and busy. So it is, you know, pouch food or it's like, what's the quickest thing we can give Maddie? Because she needs to eat. Yeah.

Albert, obviously, at the moment, it's drinking milk. So it's just different. But I think just finding a balance, really. What's you got two girls? I've got a boy and a girl. Boy and a girl. Yeah. So Albert's just came.

Oh. Chop it off. One of you to chop. Chop it off, you're done. Just chop it off. Chop it off. Do you have more? Do you want more?

Right. I'll talk it for you. In fact, that's why you're here at the day. We're going to chop your dick off. I told you couldn't say anything serious. I'm not sure I can. You can't. You have to.

A few people have asked me this question. Like, all my mates have all had the snit. I'm not sure. Like, when you've just had a baby, you go, right, that's it. I mean, we all know how it works. A couple of years down the line, we'd be like, maybe. Do you think you could do more?

We're done. We are fully done. This experience with Albert's been very different to Maddie. So I am, I'm very much no. I think, like, Chris, I'd be much prefer just having two. And by the way, extremely blessed that we've got two. Oh, yeah. And to have a boy and a girl, I'm very, very happy.

But then I just got this feeling that Amelia's going to come knocking on the door in a year or two's time and go, Ollie. Nice. Can you have another one? If I was guaranteed a girl, I would go again. Yeah, for a guarantee. Oh, because you're a four. Yeah, so if we were guaranteed a girl, we would go again.

But yeah, I heard a thing that says basically, I'm paraphrasing, but it was like having one kids, like having two kids, having two kids like having five kids, having three kids is like having 500 kids. That's what I've heard. I mean, well. Unbearable, apparently, three kids. I can't imagine anything worse. Well, then, like, I see people that have got, like, four and five.

I just think, that is how. I just think you must have no time. Like, what do you do? You are a psychopathic. Yeah, like, what do you do? Like, what five kids? Kids, like, what is that? I just think you've got to just not like any of your stuff anymore.

You've got to not like any of your clothes. You've got to hate your house. You've got to get sleep. You've got to be well on board with looking like shit all the time. And you've got to, I'm going to be honest, yeah? You've got to not give that much of a fuck about every kid at any time. I love the fact that I'm the only one laughing. You used to just be in 10.

I'm just talking about this a lot. I'm just like, I'm sorry. I mean, if you've got five, one or more of them kids is feral as four. That's my opinion. I don't know like five is a lot. I mean. But how much fun you would have as a kid with a fat? It would be great.

Well, that's the thing. Some people would say, some guys come up to me and said that after having the second one, the third fourth and if you went, it would feel just the same. I'm like, really? It's like, yeah,

you're just used to having so much chaos around you. You just get used to it. You haven't got, you've not got much between yours either. Yeah, two under two, yeah. I mean, I'm not joking to you like. But then saying that, It's, I look at my mum

and me and my mum spoke about this recently because as a parent, as growing up as a teenager and into my adulthood, I just didn't even ask these kind of questions. But I was like, mum, let's just, let's go back. You had twins and all under two. So me and my sister and my brother. So that's like, how did you even cope twins?

That's crazy. Yeah, it is. And my mum just like, I just wanted kids. I just loved it. And yeah, she goes, it was like really fucking odd. But she goes, because me and my brother were just crazy. And my sister was crazy too.

So it was a mad household. But my mum did it all when she was like 20, in her early 20s. This is the thing. I mean, I just, I thought me and Amelia were 100% ready at like 35, 36. You know, like, oh, sorry, I'm 41 now. But when we got married and got engaged, I was like, yeah, I'm ready for kids. But I mean, when it comes, it just hits you. Doesn't matter how many times people tell you what to.

do, get you prepared for it. When it happened, I was like, whoa, this is tough. It's exhausting. It's exhausting, but the most rewarding thing in the world. Oh, and do you know what it is? We've got 10 and 4 now, and I'm telling you, it just gets better. Yeah, well, as they get older, they just get cooler and cooler and cool and cool. It's just, some of it, it's really hard, but it's just mint.

And, you know, nothing humbles you more, you know? You go out and sell the O2, and then you come home and you get pissed on. They couldn't give a shit. Yes. Nothing humbles me more. I said to Amelia, like, it's just most, I just remember coming back from the O2, selling out of the O2, coming home,

and like just, there's a napping deal with it. Be prepared, you're going to put your album on in the car one day and they're going to go, Dad, turn that off. Yeah, literally. You're going to put Troublemaker on and they'll go, Dad, no, not today. And I'll say, this car we're driving in, that paid for it. Yeah, exactly.

Just shut up and listen to it. And don't do what you're, don't do what your nan did, remember the lyrics, all right? Make sure you know every single lyric to this song. Amelia's actual, Amelia's parents live down in Plymouth. So it's a four-hour drive of listening to all my albums, and they're going to listen to it. And I really, you know that stuff, that thing in We're the Millers?

Oh, yeah, yeah. Amelia always laughs, but I'm like, babe, we are going to be like Weir the Millers. Yeah, singing in the car, yeah. You're going to be the wife that just doesn't want to sing because of me that just really doesn't want to sing. I'm really like kids, right, have you worked on your harmonies? Have you got the right key in the pitch? Okay, off we go.

Can Amelia sing? No. As a lie, she can sing but not. She doesn't, yeah. A couple of times I've caught her singing. You sound like Rosie describing my singing. I wish you could sing. I can't sing at all.

I would love that so much. I hear people who can sing in the house who come in and shit all over this thing and I'm trying to do. You shit all over it every time. You would love to sing. I would love to sing. And you can't learn it.

You cannot learn it. You know what? I refuse to believe it can learn it. Now, so many people have asked me about this. And my personal opinion, I'm sure there's people that they would say otherwise. I think you can either hear it or you can't. You're born with it.

Some people that can either hear the key and the rhythm of it and be in time and understand it. And I'm not perfect, by the way. But I think you either can hear the note or you can't. And so, like, Righty, for example, my mate, he, you know, when Wrighty sings, Mark Wright, it's, it's awful. I'm not, where, where are you in this song? Like, I can't even, you're making me now sing badly.

Do you know, like when you're dancing next to someone you can't dance? Oh, yeah, and I put you up. I find it, when you're, when you're dancing with him, then you're like, you're a really bad dancer. And I'm thinking, I'm pretty good. And then all of a sudden I'm like dancing like then. I'm like, oh my God, I'm morphing into you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was with Ritey, we went to a karaoke bar in Universal.

saw and I said he says to me Mersey what song should I sing? I went Wonderwall, Oasis. It's a really good song to sing. It's a brilliant song. One of the best songs has ever been written. But, you know, Liam sings it in a really good key and it'll be good for you.

It's husky. It's a rock, rock and roll song. You'll love it. And right, he just... Terrible. I don't want to say butchering it. But he did a good job. But he did a better than what.

But he came in off the top end. He was like, it's like, two days. He was like, say a day. He's never paid a day. I'm like, oh my Lord. But hang on a minute. I don't know him. Does he think he can sing?

No. I imagine Mark Reg thinks he can do most things. He's a very confident guy. No, he is, but he actually says, I know I can't sing. Oh, well, that's, good enough. He gets it. He gets it.

But we've been talking about this. Like, I just don't think you can, if there's something there, you know, you can cheat someone. And because kids, most kids who end up singing later on in life, they've sing from being like four. Yeah. 100%. Do what I mean?

Like, they sing, our, our, our, our band gets a solo at the Christmas concert. He does. It's very, very excited. He gets a little song. Probably could sing it. He's good. No, he is good actually, but he couldn't give a shit. Like, he's not bothered about it. Like, the other day, on the way home from school, he's singing somewhere in my memory.

You know, somewhere in my... And I was like, let's practice it. Let's go through it. And he's like, Mom, I don't want to sing it. I don't want to sing it. And I'm like, why not? Why don't you want to practice it all the time? She's not bothered.

Yeah, interesting. I mean, see, when I grew up, I, like, people asked me all the time, what was I like as a kid. I used to sing that as a family with laugh, play karaoke and with dab a laugh singing songs but I wasn't taking music seriously at all.

I was all about school. No, it really is. I don't think like, you know, my nephew, for example, Louis, he's like so talented of music, such a good singer but he's just not bothered. Oh, you see, that's...

And it really infuriates me. I'm like, you are so talented. Yeah. But I always think, well, I was kind of the same of that age. I was kind of loved my music, but I just obsessed with other things, football, and lots of women,

and I was just experiencing, seeing life. I wasn't bothered about music, really. And then it got to a point where I just, it just happened for me. And I just was like, well, actually, I'm pretty good at this, or there's something there. And it just kind of took me on this path.

But, like, you know, you can only do so much, I suppose. But I'm sure it will. Still hope for him. All I think, is this me, this is me being weird. All I think is when he's older, if he ever does make it big as a singer, a producer of a TV show will go,

have you got any videos of him when he was younger, and I'll go, no. You've got none? Because he just won't. What a long game worry that is. Because he won't sing. I've got him doing the Christmas concert, but that's it.

You know what he's like. Yeah, yeah. He won't like stand and sing and let me record him. He's weird like that. Whereas I've got so, and we didn't even have that many things. I used to sing in church when I was four. That's the hardest thing as well.

I always think as a parent, like, how am I going to be? you don't want to be a pushy parent because you don't want to like you've got to sing now go do your glasses you can't do it because you wouldn't do it

because then you're like then they're going to rebel against you a little bit but then there's a part of me that's like if my son is saying oh my daughter says to me I love singing and then after a couple of months goes I don't want to stop doing it now because I always think as a kid

you go through them cycles don't you get addicted to something for a couple of weeks then go I'm not bothered now is that the point where you go right I've got to like you've got to try You've got to stick with it.

Yeah. It's really, it stresses me out. There's no right answer because my son, our 10-year-old, he was doing Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, which I wanted him to get into, self-defense and stuff. 100%. And then he's sort of gone off it a bit. I don't want to push him too much into it. But then you think, like, Tiger Woods, how many times the Tiger Woods term out his dad and went,

I can't be honest to him. I'm sure. 100%. And how hard did he push? You know, if you turn around, that doesn't matter, son. Yeah, go and do something else. We know who Tiger Woods is now. Well, I said this to Amelia.

I actually, it's so funny, he said Jiu-Jitsu. I said Maddie and Albert, well, Maddie now is a little bit older, but when they go, they will be going to a self-defense class. 100%. And whether they like it or not, I actually will say to you'll thank me. Even if they get to 16, 17 and say, I don't want to do it anymore. They're at an age where they can make a decision at 17, 18. And I go, okay, cool. Like, you know, I just remember what I did self-defense classes when I was a kid.

I loved it. Yeah. But my mum and dad only took us for a couple of years because, you know, they couldn't afford it. and for other things, they were like, oh, we're going to take you out of it now because we,

you're doing so many different after school classes. We just can't cover all three of you. So that was fine. That's a, that's a parent's decision. But I do wish in a way, I wish I could have,

I wish I could continue it as I got older. Yeah. Now I do boxing. Like, I love boxing. I'm obsessed with it. And I'm, it's something that I'm like,

I really want my kids to learn of self-defense. Because I think that's really important. Yeah. Especially the world we're living in right now. Gosh. What? Just, I hear that when you validated.

Ha! It's true. Babadoo, babadoo, babadoo, babadu, babadu, babadu ba. Do you do, do you just who then? Yeah, yeah. Oh, right, okay. Asking what belt he is? Blue belt, Ollie, thank you for asking.

How far that is that? No, that's only the second belt, but it takes a long time to get a blue belt. This is where she goes. She's going completely. No, but like, you could grab a guy. It could be this big and you could be this big. and if you're not used to contact in that certain way, you've got no chance.

So even no matter how small Maddie might be, if a guy approaches her in a certain way and she doesn't like it, she can get them. She'll be so used to that contact and strength. She'll move the body in a certain way and just, they're gone. Love it. And I just, I'm, I'm obsessed by it. We're not here to recruit a cult of children to do Brazilian Jeteru.

No, but we're here for you to read the story that you have been sent. And I completely agree with you, but I don't want to run out with time. No, but I mean, as in, I just like, I just think. I never thought I'd stop someone talking about Jigitza about it. No, but I just genuinely believe in kids should have that. I agree. And I think it should be in schools.

Yeah. Yeah. I really do. I don't think it is. And after school club and stuff. After school clubs. But I genuinely think that that should be something that kids learn during school. Do you know what?

I think it should be in the curriculum for kids to just learn some form of self-defense. I don't know if that's because then they don't want kids, school kids using it on each other. I don't know. Maybe there is a reason for that. But don't the teacher to be quite like, I know what Robin's Brazilian jitza is very much, like you do not use this. It's like a chord of conduct type thing. I remember Sensei John.

Sensei John was fantastic. The kids that went to that class. Who's Sensei John? That was his name, Sensei. What are you laughing? Is it because there's always a Sensor? It's always, it's like, yeah, it's like something out of Napoleon Dynamite.

It's the juxtaposition between the word Sense and the name John. that just fucking floored me there. I didn't mean it. I didn't mean it. And I'm sure, Sentee John a bit like kick the fuck out of me. I guarantee him.

No, but I always... Sensia, Barry. Yeah, there's always a Sensei John, I think. But like, he was just... You know, when you hear it before he's gone. So he's a little last bit. Sorry. He didn't see it.

Like, my sense is Sensey John. You went, Sensia John. You know what's not your son. You know what you're not saying? Oh, yeah. I don't have got a friend, isn't it? That lives in London called John. You know what I mean?

It's like that whole American thing. I got a friend in London. You know a guy called John? No. So this is what you're going to read. Okay, I've got to read this. Dear Chris and Rosie, please keep me anonymous. We don't know what this is, by the way.

We've got no idea what this is on. Okay, quite earlier on in my relationship, I was invited to a big family meal to celebrate my boyfriend's grandparents' wedding anniversary. Oh, nice. Does it see how long or not? No. It doesn't say how long.

Okay. As a newbie to the family, I was seated at the bottom. of a long table with a very elderly lady to my left. A super gentle aunt opposite and my father in North Steve in the corner. It was a very pleasant meal and Steve ate heartily throughout. So enthusiastically, accepting further helpings of everything, when the dessert menu came round and everyone discussed what they're going to have, Steve leant back in his chair, patted his full belly and said very loudly,

he couldn't possibly have any more dessert because he had shot his load. It's fair to say The surrounding more innocent diners And Steve himself Had no idea what he actually said And I had to spend the remainder of the meal Styling out my tears of laughter I love that

I love that So now and then we get one That is nice Sorry guys, I've shot my lorna I can't possibly eat anymore Oh that is nice Come on he knew what he was saying Do you think?

Yeah Now and there we get one. That's not filth. It's not disgusting. That's not bad. That is just funny and cute. I like that. Do you think that's a genuine he said it, not knowing what he said?

Maybe. I live with someone who says the wrong thing in every situation and never remember as any kind of phrase for anything. So I guarantee that that was accidental. But I would have died if I was at a table. But then again, I wouldn't have kept it quiet. Yeah. No. You shot your lord.

What are you making? Change your pants. You have a problem with correcting people though. By the way, we need to talk about the taxi here. Taxi here? Yeah. Yeah. When the taxi driver I was telling him about Charles Dickens used to go walking at night around where we are.

Right. Because he was an insomniac. But the taxi driver called it. Hyperchondriac. Hypocondriac, right? And I knew he meant insomnia. So I was just going, oh, right, yeah. So, yeah.

And Chris was like. He was so very, he was all up a conriac. So he didn't sleep. He said, he said walk around the streets at night. I'm sitting in the back going. That's wrong. But why couldn't you just let him? I'm not let him have it.

I'm not letting him have it. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, you're not having hypochondia. I'm not, you're not having it.

You mean an insomniac? Yeah. I was like, I'm saving them. So next time he probably says that every day. I'm not, I'm not letting say that to someone else. Yeah, you're using,

I do that all the time. I sometimes use words in the wrong context. And my team always says to me, why did you say that on the radio? I'm like, on the radio. I can't believe you get it wrong. But if you're not correct.

I like you do it a lot. I don't know how we've got a radio show together. We get so many things wrong. But it's funny. It's funny. It's fun. That's why you're likable. Don't worry about it. So listen. Just before you go, I want to mention the single as well. Run This Town. Is that the single from the album? Yeah, so I've done three singles. Save Me, but Run This Town is the new single. We've just been listening to me. It's really good. It's awesome. We love this. Yeah. We'll just listen to all. I hope we don't mind. It's got like a sort of like an ordinary boys vibe. Like a kind of like, I remember being younger and getting ready to go out. Listen to all that. The maddest thing is, it.

Preston, the lead singer of Ordinary Boys, wrote that song. So that's so mad. You said it 15 years ago. Wow. That's so mad. You wanted to be out. No, I swear to God. That's weird of God.

Me and Disney producer, I was like, I love it. She was like, it's a bit older than. Well, it's an ordinary boy. So he wrote the song 15 years ago. And we did a lot of writing together on my first album. And he said to him, I've got this song, run this town. Do you like, I'm mate, I love it. So I recorded it.

And it just didn't quite work with the album at the time. And I just was a bit like, it felt a bit older for me. and I was doing kind of something a little bit different and so I had it in my demo list like in my phone for years and it always comes on at parties and I always love listening to it in my car and I've always wanted it on an album

so this album was like the first time I felt like it's the I finally found a place for it and so I contacted press and said mate is that song still all around he's like 100% that's mad and then we're actually a bit of an exclusive

but we've actually kind of like we're going to make it into a Christmas song So we've rewrote it and rewrote some of the lyrics. It's going to be, yeah, that's going to come out next month. Love it. So we're going to make a Christmas song. What was really, genuinely, I'm glad that that turned out the way it was. But when I said, I was like, I hope you don't mind to saying it

because I know music's weird and I was like, ordinary boys vibe. The moment of silence on your face when you stared at it. I was like, he's weird. Have you read that from somewhere? No, I was like, he is fuming about this. No, I think my brain was trying to like, are you running out? No, yeah. I was a matter of them back in the day.

Yeah, and they is, well, yeah, I mean, he's such a, them guys back in the day, ordinary boys, because I'd come off X Factor, and I remember watching Big Brother when Preston was in it, when him, do you remember, is it Chantel? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were like hooking up and he was just so cool. And I remember ordinary, boys will be, boy. Yeah, just like the tune. All right, getting ready for going on.

I want to listen to that. So we just formed, like, a really good friendship. And, you know, I haven't seen him for many, many years. But, you know, he wrote Harts Kipps a beat as well. So there's been a real sort of history me in Preston. And he's such a cool guy. So, yeah.

It's been good to have him back on the record. And I'm really excited about the album. You know, it was the, it's the first time I feel like I've done an album for me, not for everyone else. That's good. So it's nice creatively to write something that I wasn't feeling like I'm doing it for what.

You know, I mean, if I didn't play this album, I said, what do you guys expect my music to feel like? It would be, I'd like to think you go. It's all fun, happy, kind of feel with music. And that's kind of always the sort of body of it. But this time I wanted to kind of be a bit edgier and a bit more like scarring and go back to my like lad days when I was kind of like in my early 25, 26 age where I love ska music.

I loved indie bands and I kind of liked all that madness feel. And so that's kind of the knees up out. That's meant that comes with age. We were talking to Leanne Pinnick as well. Yeah. She's just come out of X, Little Mix, sorry. And she's doing exactly this. She's like, this is what I want to do.

Like, this is really, you know, loved everything that she's wrote, loved everything that she's made. But she's like, this is really what I'm passionate about. But it's a really hard place to be because in one way, you're not giving maybe your fans what they expect. So you are in a bit of a place of like you've got to almost stick to your... But your fans have grown with you. You've got to remember that.

Your fans will be similar ages to you. I saw you at Newcastle Arena, by the way, years ago. Yeah, it was great. Mincho. and you've got to understand that everybody else is, it's like our podcast, they're all going through the same thing that you're going through. So, you know, doing stuff that you loved when you were younger,

they will also love that. No, and I felt that already, but what I mean is when you're going on a different sort of path, it's not a completely different path, but when you're going down a route like Leanne would be doing as well, it's kind of like you just hope people accept it and love it. But at the same time, you almost have to forget everything else and go, do you know what, I did this for me?

me. I did this as a journey for me. And I really enjoyed writing this album. Like I wrote and being married like to Amelia and like writing a song like, there's a song that I wrote like I'm still getting used to the ring. And it's all about like, you know, I might not be the perfect husband. You know, I might not be able to like change doors, you know, but I'm, you know, I'm still getting used to the ring. That's why you married me. Like I'm not the perfect person. You know, I mean. And we're always learning as, as partners and dads. And like there's, you know, there's a song that I wrote called Honest, which is about like, when you walk home from a night out and you walk in the door and there's just, I mean, Chris will know this.

When you walk in there's just a cloud around the house, you walk in and there's just this, oh, she's pissed off with me. Like, what the fuck have I done? Dude, that's always there. It's always there. There's a fog on for hours. Was it the, did I not take the bins out? Oh, yeah.

Was I out too late? Was I supposed to be, you know, it's all these things. And like, all three. Yeah, no, you're completely shit scared of what the missis is going to say to you next. You have no idea. And you just go, are you right, Diane? Yeah, I'm fine. You're like, okay, I know you're not fine.

Are you sure everything? It's like, yeah, everything's fine. She said, she said fine. This is brilliant. Why are you all terrified of it? Because you're all really scary. Yeah, but isn't there really funny, there's really funny things online where they say,

when your Mrs says she's fine, this is the actual, no, I fucking hate you tonight. Do not talk to me. It's like, I feel like that sometimes when I walk home, not all the time, but I just think, oh, no, what have I done now? So with this album,

it was fun to kind of experiment with, loads of stuff like that. So I heard this quote recently and what I do is I hear a quote and then I find myself

just regurgitating it it's me quote of the moment you've heard to say it a few times I don't know I don't know where I heard it

but it's a Henry Ford quote I heard it and sometimes I was watching us. This is where I correct you and say you got it wrong Yeah please I hope you do

Good luck dicket Henry Ford Ford cars What gets you to the top doesn't keep you there So He's already You've already said that twice

Today Not on the podcast As I said it in the other room, well, get it at the top doesn't keep you there. Very true. I like that. That is what I like. We should end the podcast on that. It's yours.

I'm going to take that with me. Yeah. Exactly. I think you have to evolve in your career. You know what I mean? You think of where we would have all started and what we've been doing and where you evolved to. You've got to keep moving and changing. And as long as you're doing things you're happy doing, I think that energy will bring people into it.

And you've bought a house, haven't you? Hoh, nearly, yeah. But you're all right? That's great. You got house. And I've got honestly genuinely, and this is not being too soppy, but falling in love with Amelia and having kids, genuinely in an industry that I'm in that's, as we said at the start of the pod about the waffle and the fake people,

my biggest fear was that I was never going to fall in love or meet the right person. So to me, someone who's as down to earth as I am and is just not being affected by this industry that I mean. It's just so beautiful that every day I go home, I get that love. You've won the lottery. And that's more than anything, I promise. Oh. Isn't that lovely? Cute.

Nice. I'm surprised you found anything because you were standing at the bars going, sorry, love, sorry. Back. Look, I know my worth and it's not that. I am well below your level. Hit the world sister. Have you seen his way?

She's fucking stunning. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah. Actually, do you know what? You? No, okay. Yeah. I'm not bothered if that's what you're after.

Come on in. Thanks, Ollie. Thank you. You guys are great. Cheers. Such a good podcast. Oh, that is funny. It's great.