Short Wave - Could This Exoplanet Harbor Life?

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

Want to be a top notch candidate for hosting alien life? Then there's a few key requirements you should be aware of: Ideally, you're a large object like a moon or a planet; scientists suspect you also... have an atmosphere and water; plus, you should orbit your star from a nice mid-range distance — in the "Goldilocks Zone" of habitability. Until recently, you would be competing against TRAPPIST-1 e. It's a planet outside of our solar system. TRAPPIST-1 e is also only 40 light years away, rocky and the same size as Earth, which prompted researchers to investigate whether it also has an atmosphere — and the potential for alien life. A team of researchers has been investigating TRAPPIST-1 e to learn more about its potential. Their answers, recently published in the Astrophysical Journal Letters, say a lot not just about this exoplanet, but about how scientists should refocus their hunt for alien life.Interested in more space science? Email us your question at shortwave@npr.org.Listen to every episode of Short Wave sponsor-free and support our work at NPR by signing up for Short Wave+ at plus.npr.org/shortwave.See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.NPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:01:45 You're listening to Shortwave from NPR. Hey, short wavers, Regina Barbara here. And Emily Kwong with our biweekly science news roundup featuring the hosts of all things considered. And today we have The Legendary. Elsa Chang from L.A. Thank you for having me yet again. So what are we learning about today? So Elsa, we're giving you an update
Starting point is 00:02:11 on the chances of life on an Earth-sized planet that orbits another star. We'll complicate the saga of the Black Death with a story of how it may have been driven by volcanoes. What? And why sick ants let nestmates destroy them. Oh, dark. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:29 All of that on this episode, a shortwave, the science podcast from NPR. All right, Elsa, where do you want to start? Let's start with the Earth-sized planet around another star. Gina, go. Okay, so astronomers have already discovered more than 6,000 exoplanets, and those are planets that are orbiting other stars, not our sun. And some of them are more promising spots to look for life than others, like this exoplanet
Starting point is 00:03:06 called Trappus 1E. And this planet is rocky like Earth. It's the same size. It's orbiting at a distance that smack dab. in the habitable zone of the star, sometimes called the Goldilocks Zone. Yes, it's at this really interesting distance from its host star. It gets a little bit less light than Earth does, but way more than Mars does. If there's life on it, we have the best chances of detecting it if it's present on Trappist 1E.
Starting point is 00:03:29 That's Sukrit Ranjan, the lead author of a recent study about Trappist 1E, published in the journal Astrophysical Journal Letters. Now, what Tsukrit is saying is that we have the best chances of finding life there in the Goldilock Zone, as opposed to some of these other exoplanet systems. This is so fascinating. Wait, just remind me, what are like the ingredients that scientists look for when deciding whether there can be life on a planet? Well, the reason this zone is important is because it's not too hot such that water evaporates
Starting point is 00:03:59 off the surface and not too cold such that the planet would be covered in ice. Another key ingredient for life on a planet is having an atmosphere. It turns out to be really hard if it has an atmosphere for it not to be habitable. That atmosphere allows liquid water to stick around, which is definitely good for life. But Elsa, there are other places in our solar system that scientists are looking at for possible life that also have atmospheres like Earth, places like Saturn's Moon Titan. So this study looked at Trappus 1E and the potential existence of Titan-like exoplanets. Wow. Okay. So how did they go about doing that?
Starting point is 00:04:34 So when Trappist 1E orbits its star, it occasionally passes between the star and us viewing it, sort of eclipsing the star. So when that happens, the starlight goes through the exoplanet's atmosphere, if it has one. And studying that light can show if the atmosphere has certain molecules like CO2 or methane. And CO2 and methane could be, but don't have to be, signs of life. Oh, so wait, does this exoplanet have CO2 and methane? I hope. Drum roll. Sadly no.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Oh, want-womp. A more in-depth investigation of Trappist 1E revealed no CO2 and found that there may be no methane either. Oh. Oh, and by the way, the study also noted that the majority of these Titan-like exoplanets called exotitans most likely lack in atmosphere entirely. The answer we came out to was, man, exotitans, great idea, not looking super good. Okay. So is he saying habitable planets might actually be rarer than scientists previously thought? Well, at least these kinds of habitable exoplanets.
Starting point is 00:05:34 And these scientists said that we really just need like better telescopes to get to the bottom of this. All right. Okay. Well, this next study is a bit close. closer to home, planet Earth. But we're going to time travel for this one, right? To the Middle Ages. Yeah. Yes. And to one of the most defining events of that time, the Black Death, which killed one third to one half of the population of Europe. And we have a pretty good understanding of what caused the Black Death. It was rats, wasn't it? That's what I always thought.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Close, Elsa. It was a bacterium from Central Asia spread by fleas on rodents that hitched a ride from the shores of the Black Sea to what is now Italy in 1347. And the reason also that scholars think so many rats were hitching a ride to Italy that year had to do with food. Hannah Barker, a historian at Arizona State University, discovered there was a reopening of the grain trade between the Mongol Empire and Genoa in 1347. They thought they were doing a good thing, bringing food to hungry people. They didn't realize that they were also carrying bacteria. And this raised a question, like, why were Italian states worried about famine that year? Martin Bauk, a historian in Germany, has a really cool hypothesis.
Starting point is 00:06:42 He thinks it might have to do with volcanoes that erupted a few years prior. There must have been a major volcanic eruption when sulfate is put into the higher strata of the atmosphere up to the stratosphere, then circling the globe for up to three years, then at some point coming down. His team hypothesized that volcanic activity in 1345 led to extreme rainfall. It also led to widespread flooding and ultimately, crop failure throughout Europe. This is quite a story. Okay, so what evidence do they have? Like, how do you prove volcanic activity from seven centuries ago? Totally. It's really interesting. So Martin and his colleague Ulf Bunken looked at ancient tree ring samples, which found bad
Starting point is 00:07:28 growth conditions in the years leading up to the plague. They looked at ice cores containing unusually high deposits of sulfate aerosols, which suggests volcano. know, and they published their findings in the journal Communications, Earth, and Environment. This is amazing. Okay, let me just make sure I understand this. Volcanic activity led to some sort of climate downturn, which led to crop failure, which led to grain imports coming in that brought all these rats carrying the bacteria to Italy and then a bunch of people died. Yep. Beautifully summarized. Now, this is just a hypothesis, of course, but it suggests that one of the
Starting point is 00:08:03 biggest pandemics in human history could have been connected to the climate. That is so interesting. Okay, moving on to our very last topic, sick ants calling for their own extermination. What? Yeah, it's like, that's sick. Yeah, yeah, it's a gory tale. But for the common good, okay? So a recent study in the journal Nature Communications found that sick ants send chemical messages to their nestmates, signaling that they're sick.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Then worker ants pick up those signals and destroy the sick ants before they infect the others. Because, you know, like a fungal infection could take out the whole colony. Wait, so these ants are like self-sacrificing? Yeah. That is dark. Okay, how does this happen exactly? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:47 So it turns out worker ants are paying close attention to the pupae. That's the stage when juvenile ants are still in their little cocoons. And it appears that when pupae have an infection like a fungus, they send out a chemical message calling for those worker ants to destroy them. One of the study authors, Erica Dawson, explained. the process to us. She says first, the worker ants, peel off the cocoon. And then they bite holes in the pupae. And then they spray in formic acid. And this basically serves to disinfect the infected pupa because it kills off the fungus. And while the acid kills off the fungus, it also kills the pupae. So in effect, the pupae is essentially calling for its own
Starting point is 00:09:32 death. Saying, hey, I'm sick. Kill me now. Before I get used to. Sick, too? Yes, that is the dramatic monologue of these infected ants. Though there is a plot twist. The team looked at pupae that would eventually become queens, like ants that start their own colonies, and they found out two things. First, that these queen pupae didn't release the signal even when they were infected. Why don't? Future queens just, they don't signal when they're sick. They're above the self-sacrifice. Yes, they are. And also, the infected future queens could fight off the infection on their own. Bam, true queens. Just like Emily Kwong and Regina Barber from NPR Science Podcast Shortwave. Thanks, Elsa, thank you so much for coming to talk with us about science and calling us queens because we are. You guys are queens.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Podcast Queen recognizes News Queen. Your highnesses, it has been an honor to join you. You are always welcome in our realm. Deeply bows. Deeply bows. Yes. You can hear more of Elsa on. consider this NPR's afternoon podcast about what the news means for you.
Starting point is 00:10:45 And for more science stories, just like this one, follow Shortwave on whatever app you're listening to. This episode was produced by Rachel Carlson and Jordan Marie Smith. It was edited by Rebecca Ramirez and Christopher and Taliyata. Tyler Jones checked the facts. Maggie Luthor was the audio engineer. I'm Emily Kwong. And I'm Regina Barber. Thank you for listening to Shortwave, the science podcast from NPR.

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