Short Wave - Dog Breeds Are A Behavioral Myth... Sorry!

Episode Date: May 26, 2022

Is your border collie a lethargic couch potato? Is your golden retriever bad with kids? Is your German shepherd too timid to guard your home?Turns out, there may be good reason why your pooch doesn't ...act as expected. Regina G. Barber talks with writer Katie Wu about the science of dog breeds, including how much a dog's personality is linked to breed. (Hint: less than you might think!)Got personal stories of your dog breaking its behavioral mold? Share with us at shortwave@npr.org. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.NPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Shortwave from NPR. Hey, Shortwavers, Regina Barbara here, and today we're entering the world of our favorite squirrel-seeking friends. Before there was Lassie, before Toto, before Scooby-Doo, there were ancient wolves and ancient humans, and they kind of became pals. The circumstances are kind of unclear, but at some point, both species realized, you know, this is not a terrible partner. to form. This is Katie Wu. She's a staff writer at the Atlantic, and recently she dug into why dogs act the way they do and how dogs became man's best friend. They came into contact with each other, maybe because, you know, the wolves were attracted to, like, garbage dumps in human encampments, or, you know, because they just got really friendly while they were hunting
Starting point is 00:00:54 in the same spaces. If I'm a wolf, I can get a consistent source of food. You know, this nice, tall, bald ape thing likes to pet me and I feel a lot safer and the humans are thinking, wow, this is an apex predator, it can help me hunt, can guard my family and it's just pretty cool to play
Starting point is 00:01:13 around with and the two species started to co-evolve. Suddenly, there was this really friendly wolfish lineage that kept on coming back, helping out the humans and getting belly rubs in return and eventually settling into these specific doggie jobs. It was
Starting point is 00:01:29 almost a dog industrial revolution where they super specialized into these careers and, you know, started acquiring some physical traits to match. Take border collies. They've evolved to herd animals, like sheep, but herding isn't the only doggy profession out there. Another class is the broad class of hunting dogs, retrievers and hounds, dogs that perform guarding functions and are just patient and calm, but make a lot of noise when something goes awry. And I also, enjoy some of the little vermin hunters. Dog wolf vermin hunters that thousands of years later would become little terriers. They are ironically some of the most wolfish because they just sit around and when they see something they want to catch, they will go after it, totally take it down and
Starting point is 00:02:17 sometimes just eat it whole. Very cat lake. For sure, the mousers of the dog world. But the idea of specific breeds didn't come up until much later in the 1800s. In the Victoria, era, when all of a sudden, the priorities around what we should be shaping dogs to be went from, oh, I want this dog to do a specific task that's going to help me with day-to-day life to, I really want a dog that is yay high and has a tail that curls exactly so. It went from like... And can fit into my lap. Right, totally.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Dogs became these, like, sort of private commodities. It was the era of, like, fancy everything. aesthetic became the kind of ruling principle of dog breeding, and all of a sudden we got tons of formal dog breeds that were defined by these super specific, almost dating profile-style criteria for how dogs should look and to some extent behave for the sake of fulfilling these principles of purity. Today on the show, when purity and reality collide, the complicated history of dog breeds and what they can and cannot tell us about the personalities of our canine companions.
Starting point is 00:03:36 I'm Regina Barber and you're listening to Shortwave, the Daily Science Pupcast from NPR. So let's hang out in 1884 and explore the early days of the post-doggy industrial revolution. The American Kennel Club, or AKC, formed to advocate for this idea of the purebred family companion. It came up with some strict guidelines that would dictate all of the physical traits of a breed, like its coat, it's bark, its height, but also its personality. Three of the first words you will see on any breed's AKC homepage are these adjectives that sort of give you a sense of its personality, things like lively or friendly or gentlemanly, like these personality descriptors.
Starting point is 00:04:33 And then there is usually this long paragraph about how the dog is expected to behave based on what it was bred for and what people wanted it to be. And there is some truth to this. Katie says that you can still recognize a lot of these ancient traits in the behaviors of some dog breeds today. Dogs with herder lineage are still pretty herdery. You know, they really like toys. They're good at listening to commands. And those are the types of things that probably made their ancestors really good at their jobs. But the AKC takes it a few steps further. And if you go into, you know, these documents called the breed standards, which include the criteria for how a dog should, look, there often is a little section called temperament. And that can also be super specific. It says the dog has to be bold or vivacious or whatever it is. And often there's even a line in there that says if the dog does not meet these behavioral criteria, it should be severely punished.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Katie says right around here is where the guidelines and the science no longer add up. Where it gets more subjective and tough to assess is when we get into the aspects of personality that maybe feel a little bit more anthropomorphic, more like a mirror of ourselves. Like, is my dog friendly? Is it gentlemanly? Right. Like, did I adopt this dog thinking it would be serious-minded? So I treated it like it would be serious-minded, and then it became serious-minded.
Starting point is 00:05:57 F-YI, if you want a dog that's, quote, serious-minded, then the American Kennel Club says, get a chow-chow. But that advice will only get you so far. It's a really interesting tension because we do expect dogs to behave in a certain way if they were adapted to certain careers over millennia. But breeds were so much about looks. And so what is the connection here? Researchers have been trying to get to the bottom of this dog personality debate for a long time. And finally, there just might be an answer from experts at UMass Chan Medical School and the Broad Institute.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Okay, Katie, in your piece, you discuss a massive study done recently where the researchers recruited. tens of thousands of dogs and gave a survey asking questions to the owners like, does your dog cower during storms? Does it ignore commands? And then they sequenced the genomes of about 2,000 of those dogs. So what do researchers say is at play when thinking about how they behave? Right. So I thought this study was fascinating because there are so many dog breeds out there today. And it's pretty clear that people have these implicit assumptions about how different breed should behave. You know, when you see a dog on the street and you are maybe a dog person, one of the first questions is, what is your dog? And the answer, whether it's a chow chow or a chihuahua,
Starting point is 00:07:18 often tends to affect how people treat that dog. And these researchers found that surprisingly little of a dog's behavior of its personality or its temperament, whatever we want to call it, is actually attributable to breed. So in the end, how much did the dogs breed explain their behavior? Yeah. So this study found that less than 10% of all the diversity in dog behaviors can be explained by breed. Wow. And I mean, it's tough. Researchers are still really figuring out how exactly to make those estimates. There was a study from just three years ago that did kind of a roughly similar analysis. They did their study a little bit differently, but they found a much higher percentage being attributable to breed somewhere closer to half, depending on how you slice and dice the data,
Starting point is 00:08:04 you know, this is definitely a contentious area. If you ask the same questions of humans, how much of our personality is from genetics versus environment, people would definitely disagree. I think the only agreement is it's not zero and it's not a hundred. Right. And when I hear about dog breeding and how do you make the perfect dog, for me, it brings up a lot of stereotypes people make about humans. Like for myself being Asian American, I remember hearing Asians are smarter and how that's detrimental. And as you said earlier, dog breeds and temperament, those connections came up in the Victorian era, which is when eugenics was all the rage, right? Certainly this is something that comes up. Anytime someone publishes
Starting point is 00:08:52 a paper on dog breeds and behavior and different predispositions, they inevitably get questions about race. Like, isn't this something that explains, like, why so, and so people of this race or ethnicity are more prone to this or behave like this? Or why can't we make assumptions? It's so unbelievably different. There is a wonderful review that I would highly recommend anyone who's interested in this question check out. It's called human races are not like dog breeds refuting a racist analogy, which is just that title, Chef's Kiss. And, you know, that they really lay out how the history and genetics of dog breeds just is not an apt parallel. We have to consider that race is so complex. There are cultural dimensions. There is so much else going on. And I will also point out that the
Starting point is 00:09:38 Victorians sort of manifested this idea of breed. And one of the ideals they really held it to was purity, keeping bloodlines pure. And we know from dogs and humans how disastrous that can be. And we know that a lot of dog breeds today have health problems because of rampant imbreeding. It is not good for anyone who wants to maintain a species' general well-being. Ultimately, this obsession with purity in both species has been to the detriment of everyone involved. Totally. So, Katie, you've taken us on this 10,000-year journey from wolves to canine breeds today. From your research into the overarching history of dog breeds and the origin of these specific doggy personalities, what's your takeaway?
Starting point is 00:10:34 Dogs have been shaped by us, and maybe there's some hubris to that. Maybe, you know, humans love to categorize things. We love to anthropomorphize things. We love to attribute personality traits to even like our cars, our microwaves. With dogs, the inclination may be especially strong because we know we're not. have this history with them. We know that we purposely went out of our way to select them and subdivide them into breeds and specialize them in ways that we thought would make certain dogs good lap dogs, others good hunters, others good herders, others good guide dogs. And maybe if we did that well, then we should be able to predict them. But I think we do have to remember that even though dogs
Starting point is 00:11:15 were so very influenced by us, they remain their own animals. Each dog is an individual and It's still going to have its own complex thoughts, its own ability to interact with surroundings and interpret them. And that's something that we can't forget. And maybe they are the ones shaping us a lot of the time. Thank you, Katie, so much for talking to us. This has been very enlightening. Absolutely. This is really fun. Check out Katie Wu's article called Humans Can't Quit a Basic Myth about Dog Breeds.
Starting point is 00:11:47 We'll put a link to that and the review she mentioned in our episode notes. This episode was produced by Margaret Serino and Rebecca Ramirez, edited by Stephanie O'Neill. Marge also checked the facts. The audio engineer for this episode was Alex Dre Winskis. Andrea Kisick runs the science desk. Edith Chapin and Terence Samuel are the executive editors and vice presidents of news. And Nancy Barnes is our senior vice president of news. I'm Regina Barber.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Thanks for listening to Shortwave, the Daily Science podcast from NPR. So Katie, what's your experience with dogs? So I had a dog when I was younger. She was a Pomeranian, but I have not had a dog since. I am a hardcore cat person. Me too. I have multiple cats. And I don't know if that's ever going to change.
Starting point is 00:12:44 I truly feel like once you go cat, you can't go back.

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