Short Wave - Eunice Foote: The Hidden Grandmother Of Climate Science

Episode Date: March 31, 2023

Today, most climate science is done with satellites, sensors and complicated computer models. But it all started with a pioneering female physicist and two glass tubes. Eunice Foote, the woman behind ...that glass tube experiment, has largely been left out of the history books. Until about 10 years ago, John Tyndall was seen as the grandfather of climate science for setting the foundation for the understanding of the greenhouse gas effect. But Eunice's experiment, done three years prior, showed that air with more "carbonic acid," or carbon dioxide, both heated up faster and cooled down slower than regular air. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.NPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Shortwave from NPR. When we grow up, we hopefully have role models. Like, for baseball players, you might have had Ichiro Suzuki, one of the best hitters and outfieldsmen in the game. I had Wolverine from X-Men hanging on my bedroom wall, but I can remember a couple female role models that I looked up to, like Dr. Mae Jemison, who was a physician, engineer, and the first black woman to travel to space.
Starting point is 00:00:29 In college, I learned a little about Dr. Chen Chongwu, a female scientist who revolutionized particle physics during the World War II era. And recently, I just learned about another physicist who over 150 years ago was at the forefront of climate science. Her name was Eunice Newton Foot. So when I learned about Eunice, I feel maybe we're on a first name basis at this point. You're best friends now. We're really good buddies. That's Dr. Catherine Wilkinson. She's a scientist and the editor of All We Can Save, an anthology, about prominent women in climate science. And she just learned about Eunice's story in 2018.
Starting point is 00:01:08 I've been learning about climate change since high school, like a lot of people, which is not recent. I'll just say that. Me neither. It's okay. It was at the turn of the century. Yeah. It was at the turn of the century.
Starting point is 00:01:24 One person she had heard of, though, John Tyndall. You hear about these formative figures like John Tyndall. I also did my graduate work in England where there's like the Tyndall this and the Tyndall that. And, you know, he's got research institutes and various things named after him. And I'd never heard of Eunice Newton foot. After a series of complex experiments, John Tyndall is often credited with setting the foundation of how we understand the greenhouse gas effect. That idea that gases like carbon dioxide are trapped in our atmosphere and increase Earth's temperature. But...
Starting point is 00:02:01 You know those moments? of just sort of outrage, where you realize that there's a critical part of the story that got left out. She actually did some really important work before John Tendell even got going. Eunice was conducting straightforward experiments at her lab in her house, and she discovered that certain gases remain warmer, longer via the sun's rays, specifically CO2 and water vapor. So she began to connect the dots with CO2 and a warming planet. That work culminated in a paper published years before John's famous paper. Why was there this grandmother of climate science that, you know, had essentially been written out of the history books?
Starting point is 00:02:46 And also some frustration that her story is still all too relevant today. That there are still far too many women doing really important work that flies under the radar. or gets shoved under the radar. So, today on the show, we highlight the somewhat forgotten grandmother of climate science, Eunice Newton Foot, what she discovered and how her legacy continues to resonate today. I'm Regina Barber. You're listening to Shorewave, the science podcast from NPR. So to learn a little bit more about Eunice's life and to explain her experiments, we called up Anerita Marietti, a climate scientist and science policy expert.
Starting point is 00:03:42 She got really interested in the absorption of sun radiation by gases in the atmosphere. And she actually started off with the question, which was, what happens if the radiation of the sun is absorbed by air that's more or less dense? And that's because people at that time were trying to figure out why air in the bottom of valleys is warmer than the air at the top of mountains. And her setup was pretty basic. She had two identical glass tubes with two thermometers in there, and she had an air pump. And she pumped out air from one of the tubes. Once they had reached the same temperature, she put them out in the sun,
Starting point is 00:04:28 and then watched them warm up. And then she noticed that the tube that had higher density of air in there warmed up faster, got warmer. Before her, people were thinking, maybe it's the angle at which the sun comes in the valley compared to the top of the mountain. So she proved with her experiment that actually had to do with the density of air. And then she addressed another question, which is what happens if we have different kind of gases in these tubes compared to what she called common air.
Starting point is 00:04:56 So first she used, she wanted to explore the impact of having more water vapor in one tube versus in the other. So she noticed that the one that had water vapor in there got warmer. And then she experimented with the number of gases, including carbonic acid gas, which we now call carbon dioxide or CO2. And she concluded that the tube that had carbon dioxide in there got the warm as compared to any other gases that she had experimented with. So was this groundbreaking at the time? So we know now that greenhouse gas effect is really the absorption of long wave information. radiation from the Earth's surface into the atmosphere and then, you know, absorbed by carbon dioxide and water vapor and other gases, that's the greenhouse gas effect. What she observed actually
Starting point is 00:05:50 was the absorption of sunlight, erased from the sun. Regardless, she was the first one to demonstrate that having more carbon dioxide in their atmosphere and also more water vapor would warm up the atmosphere. So after that, somebody called John Tyndall, an Irish scientist, a well-established person, had worked at the Royal Society in London. He went into the direction of what Eunice had done before. He actually did experimental work and looked at the absorption specifically of infrared radiation by carbon dioxide in waterbedo. So he repeated that line of experimentation that Eunice had started, but just with better equipment.
Starting point is 00:06:37 and he nailed down, you know, the specific effect of infrared radiation. So that's, you know, much more precise than what Eunice had been able to do. You know, there is a debate whether John Tyndall knew about Eunice Newtonfoot experiment or not. Right. We heard about that. Yeah, a lot of debate on that. Scholars are on different sides on this, whether, you know, John Tyndall built on her scientific experiments or not. So we can't say that, you know, without her experiment, John Tittle would not have discovered what would it,
Starting point is 00:07:12 and others after him discovered what they did. However, she had the guts to go to the American Association for the Advancement of Science, that's the AAAS. And she wanted her results to be presented. She wanted to tell other scientists, mostly men, right, about her results. She did not tell that story. We don't quite know why she didn't present to herself, but it was the first time ever than a woman's paper was presented at the annual meeting of the CIPOES.
Starting point is 00:07:50 I'm a physicist, so there are only a handful, very, very few women in physics that I can look up to past the 70s, right? And even then it's hard. Do you think Eunice is kind of one of those people for climate science? I would say that Eunice is really the founder of climate science, you know, broadly. And also she was, again, she wrote the first two physics paper by a US woman. Within the 1800s, a total of 16 papers in physics were written by women. Wow. So she really pushed the envelope as a woman in science, specifically in physics in the US.
Starting point is 00:08:34 So I think she opened a lot of those. Of course, for people like us, I'm also a physicist. We owe a lot to her as women in science. She helped to broaden sort of the spectrum of people that we can think of making good contribution in science, whether they have a pedigree or not. Building a better world and activism, that came up in both my interviews with Catherine and Anerita.
Starting point is 00:08:58 They were clear that this was another key aspects of Eunice's legacy. Here's Catherine again. So Eunice has this one part of her life. where she's conducting scientific experiments. She's another part of her life where she's quite involved in the early movement for women's rights. So her name actually appears on the list of signatories to the Seneca Falls Declaration of Sentiments. And I think this was 1848, so a few years before she did her error experimentation.
Starting point is 00:09:29 And of course, the Seneca Falls Declaration was a manifesto that got created during the first women's rights convention. here in the United States, right, as folks are advocating for suffrage for women. And it's also interesting that Foote's husband is also a signatory to that declaration alongside Frederick Douglass. And there's something I think about that pairing that is also incredibly relevant to the present, right? There was something sort of intersectional, perhaps, in her thinking in her life.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Again, we don't know if she was connected. these dots. But I think that that is also really important to this moment, right? That climate change is landing in a world that is already profoundly unequal in so many ways, right? If we are not bringing critical lenses to understand the root causes of the climate crisis, if we're not bringing critical lenses to understanding the need to embed equality and justice in the solutions so that as we try to solve for greenhouse gases, we are also, in the language of Dr. Beth Sawin, multi-solving for these other related issues. Because if we're just thinking myopically about the one piece, we're missing so much opportunity for building a whole piece. world that is truly more aligned with life. Both Catherine and Anna Rita have written about Eunice's contributions, and you can find the
Starting point is 00:11:09 links to their work in our show notes. Today's episode was produced by Liz Metzger, edited by our managing producer Rebecca Ramirez, and fact-checked by Anil Oza. Robert Rodriguez was the audio engineer. Brendan Crump is our podcast coordinator. Our senior director of programming is Beth Donovan, and our senior vice president of programming is Anya Grundman. I'm Regina Barber.
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