Short Wave - Hot galaxies alert!

Episode Date: January 9, 2026

Most astronomers agree that young galaxy clusters should be relatively cool compared to older ones. But researchers recently found a very young cluster that’s hotter than the surface of the sun. Mor...e on why the finding is so shocking, plus elephant’s remarkable sniffing abilities and a new discovery about butterfly migration in this episode of Short Wave. Interested in more science news? Email us your question at shortwave@npr.org.Listen to every episode of Short Wave sponsor-free and support our work at NPR by signing up for Short Wave+ at plus.npr.org/shortwave.See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.NPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Shortwave from NPR. Hey, Shortwavers, Burley McCoy here. And Emily Kwong with our biweekly Science News Roundup featuring the hosts of All Things Considered. And today we have Scott Detrow. I'm only here because I heard we were talking about a hot galaxy cluster. That's how we get you in the door. Yeah. But how we're going to keep you is talking about also how elephants' trunks lead them to food.
Starting point is 00:00:26 And we'll share a big discovery in butterfly migration. I'm here for all three. Well, we thank you. All that on this episode of Shortwave of the Science Podcast from NPR. Okay, Scott, I know your favorite thing is space. So let's start there. Let's start there. Wow. Let's start up. What would you say a galaxy cluster is, though? Let's start there. It is exactly what it sounds like. It is a collection of galaxies, but kind of like a city where each galaxy is a different building.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Our galaxy, the Milky Way, is part of a cluster called the local group, for example. But the galaxy cluster we want to talk about, which is the subject of a new paper in nature, was formed about 12 billion years ago. And the universe itself is only about 13.8 billion years old. So that's just a fast billion years, like a snap of the fingers in galaxy terms. Like we were talking about this was a baby in galactic years. Exactly. And current theories say that younger galaxy clusters should be relatively cool. But this one is very hot, like hotter than the surface of the sun.
Starting point is 00:01:34 We talked to Jorge Moreno, an astrophysicist who didn't work on the paper, and he made an analogy to U.S. history. He said, if you go back a few centuries, you expect to see little buildings and horses and carriages, not a modern metropolis. It's late 1700s and a city looks like Las Vegas. This galaxy cluster is popping. It's far hotter than scientists expected to find at this early point in the universe. Do researchers have any idea why it's so hot? We don't know why yet. But one of the study authors, Daji Jo, says it is the first time.
Starting point is 00:02:08 A galaxy cluster this hot has been detected at such a young age. And this cluster also contains active galaxies. Three of them have supermassive black holes at the center, which is also surprising given the cluster's age. So these forces us to rethink our current understanding of how these large structures form and evolve in the universe. Although, Scott, it is possible that this cluster is an extreme, case. So we need more data.
Starting point is 00:02:35 I have a lot of other questions that I will keep Googling. But for now, we are going to move forward to another topic, though, because we'll have to talk about. And we got to talk about elephants. That was really good. Thank you. Listeners don't see that I flared my hand like a trunk. But the trunks are what we're talking about, right? Yes, big time. At the very tip of an elephant trunk are two nostrils powered by nearly 2,000 olfactory genes, which is five times more than a human has, and over twice as many as dogs. Which makes me think if you need to sniff something out, hire an elephant, not a dog. True. Yeah. And if you do pay them fairly in what they love. Grass, leaves, because elephants
Starting point is 00:03:12 eat hundreds of pounds of plants a day. They are constantly making food decisions about whether to stay foraging in a patch or travel in search of a better one. And Adrian Schrader at the University of Pretoria wanted to know how their noses guide them in the wild. Animals don't just randomly walk across the landscape and hope to find food. And so our question really was an idea of, well, do they use the amount of food as a cube? Yeah, and to test this Adrian's team built a giant maze for elephants, shaped like a Y, with walls over seven feet tall. So picture one entrance, two paths, with different quantities of food at either end.
Starting point is 00:03:49 So it's like choosing almost between like two different Las Vegas buffets, not being able to see which one was bigger. Exactly. Four captive elephants took on this challenge. From the maze entrance, the food was about 30 feet. away. So way beyond the reach of their trunks, they couldn't see because the walls were so tall. And every time they chose the path with more food, unless the quantity difference was less than 600 grams, which is about 6 to 10 trunk loads of grass. And then they tended to pick either route,
Starting point is 00:04:20 which suggests they couldn't smell the difference or they just didn't care. These results were published in the journal Biology Letters. And Alvaro Lopez Keogoya, who was not part of the study, found the elephant's ability to discriminate food quantities remarkable. Though he points out there are a lot more smells in the wild than in the preserve where these captive elephants lived. This is really interesting. I'm curious. What is useful about this research?
Starting point is 00:04:43 Well, elephants, while adorable, can damage their environments. They stomp on farmers' crops. They can knock down endangered trees. But if researchers understand elephants' use of smell, maybe they can cover plants with bad odors to protect them from hungry elephants. All right, so let's go from a very large animal to a very small one. Let's talk butterflies, specifically butterfly migration. What's surprising about it?
Starting point is 00:05:05 Yeah, so this is a migration in painted lady butterflies. They have similar coloring to monarchs, but they're smaller. They're super widespread, and they have the longest migration of any butterfly. And scientists found something striking in that migration, that depending on if they live in the northern or southern hemisphere, they follow completely opposite migration paths. Essentially, the equator is acting as a migration barrier for these two isolated populations. Okay, I'm going to be honest here, this doesn't particularly surprise me, right? The seasons are opposite. This makes sense. Why is it a big deal?
Starting point is 00:05:40 Fair, but this is the first time a migration barrier has been described for any insect. And to study this, researchers collected more than 300 butterflies from 38 countries across the northern and southern hemispheres. We talked to Aurora Garcia-Berro from the Botanical Institute of Barcelona. and she says their team looked at the butterflies' genes for months searching for clues about what made these two populations distinct. And then one day, she found something really weird. And I actually thought it was an artifact. But then I showed it to my colleague,
Starting point is 00:06:11 and they were, like, completely surprised. Like, you don't know. This is so exciting. And this dramatic, what was it? Yeah, they found that a large chunk of DNA in the Southern Hemisphere Butterflies was completely flipped. It was oriented. the other way than the same DNA chunk in the northern hemisphere butterflies. And this chunk contains genes involved in migration.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Whoa. So what they think they're seeing is one species that separated into two populations, and now their genetics are diverging two because of these different migration pathways. And this is sort of a lens into how a single species might split into two across a migration barrier. And it might explain why we see closely related species in different hemispheres. They publish the results in the journal Nature Communications. That is really interesting. What is the thinking on the larger significance of this? Well, painted lady butterflies, while small, make up a huge biomass. In 2017, a 70-mile stretch of these butterflies blocked weather radar in Colorado.
Starting point is 00:07:11 They can affect agriculture, pollination, and the health of other species. So Aurora says identifying how animals migrate is important to understanding the health of that species, yes, but also the health of all the places that species travels. That is so interesting. I started off thinking like, oh, yeah, everybody knows that to, like, having my mind kind of blown. That was a really interesting story. Great. That's why you come here. Thank you, Scott. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:07:35 You can hear more of Scott on Consider This, NPR's afternoon podcast about what the news means for you. And for more science stories just like this one, follow shortwave on whatever app you're listening to. This episode was produced by Rachel Carlson and Jordan Marie Smith. It was edited by Rebecca Ramirez and Christopher in Taliatta. Tyler Jones checked the facts. Robert Rodriguez and Jay Sizz were the audio engineers. I'm Emily Kwong. And I'm Burley McCoy.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Thanks for listening to Shortwave, the science podcast from NPR.

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