Short Wave - How Do Astronomers Find Exoplanets? Wiggles!
Episode Date: April 11, 2025Dune. Star Wars. Alien. Science fiction movies love alien worlds, and so do we. But how do scientists find planets outside our solar system in real life? One way is by looking for the stars that wiggl...e. Historically, astronomers have measured those wiggles via the Doppler method, carefully analyzing how the star's light shifts. Thanks to new data from the GAIA telescope, scientists have a much better picture of distant stars' wiggles — and the exoplanets that cause them.Want to hear more about exoplanet discoveries? Send us an email at shortwave@npr.org. Listen to every episode of Short Wave sponsor-free and support our work at NPR by signing up for Short Wave+ at plus.npr.org/shortwave.See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.NPR Privacy Policy
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Growing up, you might have learned the names of the planets, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter.
But what about Beta Pictora C? You probably didn't learn that one. I didn't either.
That's because we only found out about it in 2019. And because it's an extra solar planet or an exoplanet.
Well, an exoplanet is a planet, but it doesn't orbit the sun. It orbits some other star in the
galaxy. That's Josh Wynne. He's an astronomer at Princeton University and an exoplanet hunter.
And the study of exoplanets is one of the newest and most exciting areas of astronomy. It really
only got going in the mid-1990s. Scientists have found thousands of exoplanets since then, by relying
on a little trick of gravity. When a planet is orbiting a star, it's because the star's gravity
is pulling on the planet.
But forces come in pairs.
If the star is pulling on the planet,
the planet has to be pulling on the star with the same force.
Compared to the planet, the star is massive.
So the pull of gravity from the planet doesn't make it move much.
But nevertheless, it does cause it to move.
Basically, planets make their stars wiggle.
But we haven't always been able to directly observe this wiggle.
Our telescopes just haven't been sensitive enough to detect it.
So in the past, we've mainly used other methods instead.
And these methods...
They're very good at finding planets that have small orbits
that are located close to the star,
kind of like Mercury and Venus and the Earth.
But those planets are only part of the story.
Without a way to find planets far from their stars,
scientists haven't been able to paint a full picture of these solar systems until now.
This new method, which is called the astrometric method,
is actually best at finding distant planets,
planets like Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune around other stars.
This new method lets us fill in the gaps of the picture,
finding planets that astronomers couldn't detect before.
This is the beginning of the next big phase of exoplanet discovery.
A few years from now, we're going to be in a position to use this technique
to find potentially thousands of new exoplanets,
and they're going to be different.
from the ones that we already know about.
So today on the show, the next phase of exoplanet discovery,
how scientists are filling in missing pieces of a solar system puzzle,
and how this search has just begun.
I'm Regina Barber, and you're listening to Shortwave,
the science podcast from NPR.
Okay, Josh, so to start, can you tell me,
how have we found exoplanets in the past?
Like, what methods do we know work?
Sure.
We have two main methods that have led to most of the discoveries.
As of today, there are about 5,800 known exoplanets.
And about 4,000 of them come from a very clever trick, which is based on eclipses.
If a planet's orbit happens to carry it directly in front of the star that it orbits, then it will block a little bit of that star's light.
And we can tell because the star appears to get slightly fainter for a few hours.
That's called the transit method.
We say the planet is transiting across the star.
But the transit method, while it's a wonderful technique, it has this serious problem, which is that it requires a very special coincidence for the orbit to be oriented just right so that from our vantage point we see these eclipses.
Yeah.
And so it misses most of the planets that are out there.
It makes me think of like a lighthouse, right?
Like if you're not at the right angle, if you were a helicopter above the lighthouse,
you would not see the beam of light hitting you.
You could miss it.
That's right.
So if there are aliens viewing our solar system from every possible direction,
only one out of 200 of them would ever see the Earth go directly in front of the sun.
Now, the second best method, and really the first one that worked in the mid-1990s,
is based on sensing the motion of the star.
And we can detect the motion of the star.
using a trick called the Doppler effect.
Right.
Now, the term Doppler probably rings a bell
because of a Doppler radar that's used to measure the speed of a car
or the speed of raindrops falling from the sky.
It's the effect that you get whenever you have a source of waves
that's moving relative to the observer.
And light is a wave.
So if a star is moving towards us,
then the light rays that it emits by the time they reach the earth appear to be shifted in their wavelength.
Right. I mean, one analogy I like to use is sound instead of light. They're both waves, so we can do that.
The siren of a fire engine, it's going to sound different when it's coming at you versus when it passes you.
Right.
And that's the Doppler effect.
Exactly. Yeah. We can actually hear those changes, like you said. If a car goes by, we hear it go,
hmm. Yeah. Now, the speed of light is huge compared to the.
speed of sound. It's too fast. It's too fast. Yeah. So when we divide by the speed of light, we get this
tiny undetectable effect to our eyes. Right. But as astronomers, our whole job is to figure out
how to analyze starlight very, very precisely. So we have specialized equipment that can detect
these tiny shifts in wavelength. So you use this new method to measure how like stars wiggle,
and it's called astrometry. Like, what is astrometry?
Astronometry is actually one of the oldest techniques in astronomy. It means
measuring the position of the star in the sky.
So if you can measure exactly where it is on the sky,
you are doing astrometry.
Oh, wow.
Okay, okay.
So it's just straight up measuring where the star is.
That's right.
Measuring the coordinates of the star in the sky.
Yeah, and that's what I thought we were actually measuring
when I first learned about star wiggling, like back in the 1990s.
But you're saying that that was actually the Doppler method,
and we were measuring like the speed of stars,
rather than observing those stars move.
Right.
Okay.
The astrometric method is conceptually simpler.
We're just seeing the star move in the sky,
wiggling back and forth.
Now, we can't literally see it with our eyes.
These motions are way too small.
Okay, okay.
So using this new method, like what kind of planets do we expect to see?
The big difference is that the astrometric method,
where you're seeing the star wiggle on the sky,
is better at finding distant planets.
planets with very wide orbits.
So why is that?
It's because the further away the planet is from the star, the larger its orbit, and that also
makes the star's orbit wider too.
Mm, got it.
And since if we're trying to see the star wiggle, we want the star to be moving as far as
possible.
Right.
So the wider the orbits, the better.
So why is this method possible now, like when it wasn't before?
Yeah, the big game changer was a European space mission called Gaia.
They launched a telescope in 2013.
It's actually two telescopes, and they're pointing in different directions,
and the telescope is spinning around.
In space?
In space.
So it's a spinning platform with two telescopes,
and what the telescope is doing is it's measuring the exact time
at which a star crosses through the field.
field of view of each telescope.
So every time it rotates and sees a certain star, it clocks that moment.
And if you have billions of such measurements, then you can calculate the exact positions
of all of those stars with the utmost precision.
Okay.
So to summarize this new method is only possible because Gaia is capable of doing these precise
measurements, which in turn makes it possible to like really see these wiggling stars and
and help us identify potential exoplanets.
And I mean, there's lots of stars out there.
Like, you found this one exoplanet with this new method.
Like, how did you pick which stars to, like, look at?
So the team that operates the Gaia telescope prepared a list of about 75 stars
that appeared to be wiggling back and forth.
And so our idea was, okay, these appear to be new planets from the astrometric method.
Let's use the Doppler method to see if we can control.
confirm them. Okay. And as it turns out, most of those 75 objects are not exoplanets. They are
something else. Yeah. So the one that we found came from a long, kind of sifting through of these
candidates, ruling out most of them and arriving at so far just one that we're pretty sure
is an exoplanet. And this one exoplanet, which has since been named like Gaia 4B, can you
talk a little bit more about that planet? Like, what do we know about it? Sure. It is an unusually
massive planet. It's almost 12 times the mass of Jupiter. Oh, wow. So it's, uh, you, you might call it
a super Jupiter. Yeah, I do like those. It's orbiting around its star every 571 days. It's lower in
mass and redder and less luminous than the sun. And it is located about 240 light years. So,
That's so close.
It's pretty close by galactic standards.
Yeah, I mean, for me, as someone who studied, like, galaxies that were, like, hundreds
of millions of light years away.
But I also, I love Jupiter.
So, like, super Jupiters sound incredible.
All of this Gaia data, like, just sounds so awesome.
The Gaia mission actually just ended.
Yeah.
It ran for more than 10 years, diligently collecting data and measuring the locations of all
all of these billion or so stars. But eventually, you know, all good things must come to an end.
It ran out of fuel. And it won't be conducting any more observations.
But there's all this data that we haven't even looked at yet, right?
Exactly. Yeah. So about a year and a half, maybe two years from now, we're going to have a much
larger set of data that they're busy processing right now. And that should lead to the detection
of at least hundreds and probably thousands of new exoplanets.
So tell me more about how using astrometry is going to basically give us a more complete picture.
Like, why do you think it's important for people to know more about these other solar systems, these other planets around other stars?
Well, imagine what it would be like if we didn't know about Jupiter or Saturn or Uranus or Neptune in our own solar system.
We would have a really incomplete picture of what's going on around the sun.
And we want to have the same kind of complete knowledge of exoplanetary systems.
We want to know about the little planets, the big planets, the nearby planets to the star,
and the more distant planets, so that we can see what are the relationships between them?
What are the patterns that hold in those systems and how do they compare to what we observe in our system?
It's hard to draw any conclusions when you're basing all your conclusions on one example.
solar system. You really want thousands of data points and you want complete knowledge of those
systems before you can be confident about any patterns that might exist. Yeah. Josh, thank you so
much. I can't wait to see how many you find when you start analyzing that Gaia data.
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