Short Wave - Is working from home actually good for you?
Episode Date: June 29, 2026For many, being able to work from home is a boon: saving time on your commute, working in your sweatpants, throwing in a load of laundry before a meeting. People say it makes them happier. But a new s...tudy suggests that, despite all the advantages, working from home isn’t creating a happier workforce. It’s making people more socially isolated. We get into all the details with NPR mental health correspondent Rhitu Chatterjee.Interested in more everyday science? Email us your question at shortwave@npr.org.Support public media with NPR+ and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. It includes perks like bonus episodes, early access, archive access, curated playlists and sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org.See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.NPR Privacy Policy
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You're listening to Shortwave from NPR.
Hey, shortwaver's Emily Kwong here with NPR's mental health correspondent Ritu
Strategy. Hi, Ritu.
Hi, Emily. It's good to see you.
And we are looking directly at each other.
Exactly.
We're in person at NPR headquarters.
But sometimes you and I do work from home.
A lot of people do.
A lot of people do.
Remote work has quadrupled since the pandemic, to be precise.
And I've been speaking with one researcher who's been looking at
this, and her name is Natalia Emmanuel. She's an economist at the Federal Reserve Bank in New York.
Studies have found that workers are willing to give up four to 10 percent of their earnings in
order to have the ability to work remotely. That sounds like a lot, but I'm not surprised
because of the flexibility. Oh, the flexibility is huge. And I can tell you that as a parent of two
little kids, I love the flexibility remote work gives me because I can pick up and drop off my
kids without having to worry about getting to work on time.
And the fact that I can work from home even when one of the kids is homesick,
you know, makes a big deal.
And there's also data showing that working from home increases productivity and
job satisfaction.
But we don't yet understand how remote work is affecting various aspects of the workplace
and even ourselves, our own sense of well-being.
Oh.
Yeah.
And I spoke with Nicola.
Epley, he's a professor of behavioral science at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business,
and he says he gets asked about the effects of remote work all the time.
Everybody wants to know how is that changing things? And usually the answer is we can't really tell.
But a recent study published in the journal Science does give us some insight into the effects of
remote work on our sense of well-being. Unfortunately, it suggests that despite all the
advantages of remote work, you know, the flexibility, the productivity.
Working from home isn't creating a happier workforce. In fact, it's making workers more
isolated and unhappy. Today on the show, some new science to answer a very difficult question.
What does working from home do to our health and our sense of well-being? I'm Emily Kwong.
I'm Ruthie Chatterjee. And you're listening to Shortwave from NPR.
Okay, so Ritu, just to be clear, this is only one study we're talking about today.
I know it was in a very prestigious journal. Science is like one of the big ones.
Exactly. Yes. We are talking about one recent study, which was interestingly titled Home Alone.
I wonder what McCauley Calkin thinks about this.
Anyway, it looked at a ton of data on U.S. workers to explore whether there was any link between remote work and workers' mental health.
All right. Let's dig into the paper. How did researchers do it?
even go about answering this question? So the researchers used data from five large surveys of
American workers that together gave them a ton of information about a whole lot of things,
about the kinds of jobs people are in, workers' daily lives, their overall health and well-being.
And the researchers grouped workers into two groups based on the kind of jobs they are in.
One group was in what they called remotable jobs, such as software,
engineering, marketing, you know, maybe journalism was in there as well. The second group was in what
they call non-remotable jobs like surgery and mechanical engineering. Okay, so the study defined
non-remotable jobs as those that require someone to go someplace to work. Like my cousin who makes
helicopter parts. He's working at a big piece of equipment every day. Exactly. So what did they find?
What they found, firstly, was that those in remortable jobs were a lot more socially isolated.
than those going to work in person.
Here's study author Natalia Emanuel again.
They've seen a 58% increase in hours alone,
and then a 72% increase in the chance of spending a whole day
with just no human contact,
not even like a wave to a barista,
not, you know, somebody also checking for the ripeness
of the avocados at the grocery store,
just no human contact at all.
And you know, those who live alone
had the highest rise in social isolation.
They had an 83% increase in chances of spending their days with zero social contact.
Wow.
Natalia and our colleagues also found that workers in remotable jobs have seen an increase in symptoms of mental distress or anxiety and depression over the past few years.
This shows up in self-reports, in seeing a mental health care professional, in using mental health prescription medications.
And so really across the board, we're seeing disproportionate shift toward greater mental distress among people in remotable occupations relative to people in non-remotable occupations.
That's interesting.
But wouldn't also working from home give you more flexibility to see a therapist or get mental health care?
How do we know that the rise in mental health care visits and prescriptions isn't just because of that?
That's a great question, Emily.
By that logic, you should also see a rise in people.
visiting their doctors too, right?
Oh, fair.
And that's something that the authors did look into because they wanted to make sure that this wasn't
sort of a false signal that they were getting.
And they found that there was no increase in visits to physical health care providers.
That is fascinating.
How do we know these things are causally linked that one leads to another?
The study does not prove causation.
What it does is show a very strong link.
Now, there have been other studies looking into this connection between work location and mental health.
One study found that workers who exclusively work remotely have a slightly higher risk of anxiety
compared to those who work in a hybrid setting.
And another study found that remote workers who have more frequent phone calls with friends, family, caregivers,
were at a lower risk of anxiety and depression than remote workers who have such calls less than once a week.
Call your grandma, everybody.
Exactly. Or your neighbor.
So you're getting the signal from other studies, too, that the social isolation aspect of working remotely is having an impact on people's mental health.
And by the way, there's just a wealth of research that show us that social isolation, loneliness is bad for our mental health.
And in the long run, our physical health too.
You know, I talked about this with Nick Epley, who we heard from earlier.
He wasn't involved in the new study, but has spent years researching social connection and health.
Being alone, compromise your immune system functioning, your cardiovascular system functioning,
and it's correlated with mortality even.
People who live alone die sooner.
And as I've reported before, one of the biggest predictors of health and well-being is the quality
and even the variety of our social relationships.
Social connections don't just boost our mood.
They also improve our overall health.
Yeah. I mean, it makes sense.
We are such a social species.
We've evolved to connect with each other.
Absolutely.
So if social connections are this central to our well-being,
why do people, if given the choice,
I don't want to speak for all people,
but it does seem like there's such an appetite to work from home.
Yeah, there is.
So what's that about?
If it's also kind of hurt,
hurting people. Well, it's not either or, right? There are genuine advantages to working remotely,
and it's easy for people to know and prioritize those advantages. And we talked about some of this
earlier, right? People are very attuned to these sort of short run, very salient things like not
having to do their commute. However, as Natalia and Nick pointed out to me, it's much harder for people to
understand and estimate the longer-term impacts of missed social connections from not going into work.
It's a slow motion effect in many ways, right? It feels a little better in the moment,
but it's hard to anticipate a month, a year, two years from now, friends you'll have that you
don't have now, conversations you've had that are meaningful that you haven't had now.
This sounds exactly like how people talk about exercise. They don't have time.
The equipment, it's hot, I'm out of shape. But over time, long-term impacts shows muscle loss, bone density is being impacted. I mean, the longer-term calculation can be hard to prioritize in the moment.
Yeah. When you're just tired, you don't feel like calling up somebody.
It's very human, you know, even that reaction. Yeah. And, Emily, I have to mention one other reason why people play down the value of their social interactions. It's because our brains lie to us.
when it comes to judging ourselves in social situations.
That's what psychologist Gillian Sandstrom told me.
This phenomenon where two people who meet for the first time
afterwards tend to think that they liked the person they talked to,
but the person they talked to didn't really like them.
Jillian's at the University of Sussex,
and she studies how talking to strangers and acquaintances affects our mood.
So that's us feeling like, you know, oh, I didn't tell that story very well.
You know, I should have said this.
I shouldn't have said that.
we have this, you know, this voice that's telling us that we didn't do a good job.
And so Gillian says that for people who are spending the bulk of their days alone being isolated,
that negative voice in their heads is the one that becomes more prominent, telling them that they
aren't great at social interactions.
If you're not seeing other people, you're not getting that sense that people care about me.
I matter to people that maybe they help you feel like you're not the only one going through this.
For people who don't have offices to visit and don't have a co-working space, what can they do to combat these negative side effects of the social isolation that comes with working from home?
Well, so I asked Gillian exactly that question.
She recommends being more intentional and seeking daily human interactions.
She says she works from home herself.
And so for her, that means.
I leave the house every day.
I go for a walk.
I see my neighbors.
I pet some dogs.
You know, I have my activities that I do.
I play tennis.
I have hobbies that mean that I see other people.
Yeah.
So it's about like planning for social connection.
What do you think all this means for return to office mandates?
There's a lot of push even at NPR to get our newsroom back into the office more regularly.
So I'll just paraphrase what Nick Epley said to me.
He said these results as clear of a link as it chose to poorer mental health.
does not mean that workplaces require every worker to come back.
Because remember, there are clear advantages, right?
Especially to certain vulnerable groups like caregivers.
You know, I mentioned I'm a parent with two little kids.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then there are many people who are caring for their kids and elderly parents.
So more responsibilities.
It certainly allows more caregivers to be in the workforce period having a policy like that.
Absolutely.
I've also heard from a couple of neurodivergent individuals who say that working from home makes them less anxious because it takes away the stress and anxiety of trying to fit into a neurotypical workplace.
But for companies who do want people to return to the office, Nick Epley says they need to make the office more attractive.
Ha! I love this twist.
What they're providing that's rewarding at work is social interaction.
social connection. But you've got to coordinate that make sure that everybody's in on the days when everybody's in.
Honestly, NPR has one of the biggest attractants to getting people into the office possible, which is the tiny desk concerts.
The fact that you and I can go up to the fourth floor and see a concert that will be posted later on YouTube is like ridiculous.
You're right. It is a great privilege. And the fact that you can have those moments of connection with your coworkers makes work feel less transactional and more human.
Those moments of human connection are what keep us going.
They're what make us want to work.
They bring new information and make us work better.
And so sacrificing them adds up to something bigger than it seems, I think.
Yeah, being reminded that you matter and that you're a part of something.
Yeah, and you want to make something bigger with your colleagues.
No.
Retoo Chatterjee, thank you so much for bringing us this reporting.
Always a pleasure, Emily.
This episode was produced by Arun Nair and edited by Rebecca Ramirez.
Tyler Jones checked the facts.
Jimmy Keely was the audio engineer.
I'm Ritu Chatterjee.
And I'm Emily Kwong.
Thank you for listening to Shorewave, the science podcast from NPR.
