Short Wave - Micro Wave: You Mite Want To Shower After This

Episode Date: October 15, 2020

Today's episode is about how you're never alone. That's because there are tiny mites that live on your skin — including your face. They come out at night and mate. And we're not totally sure what th...ey eat. See? Don't you feel better already?Researcher Megan Thoemmes tells us about the lives of these eight-legged creatures — and what they can tell us about ourselves.Also, if you can believe it, Short Wave launched a year ago today. Happy anniversary to us! And thanks for listening!See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.NPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:06 Hey yo, Maddie Safai here with shortwave reporter Emily Kwong. Hey, Kong. Hey, you. So first things first, big day. We are celebrating shortwave's one year anniversary. Happy anniversary, Maddie. Happy anniversary, Kong. I'm so excited about this. Like, it's been a whole year since we launched shortwave. Nothing really happened in science this past year, but we made it work. Right. It's been a wild ride. Let's say that. Let's say that. And you promised me. for our anniversary episode that I could talk about whatever I wanted. Well, all great relationships involve compromise. So here we are.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Here we are indeed, ma'am. I thought we could celebrate with a microwave episode about how you're never truly alone. Oh, okay. That sounds nice. You're definitely still going to feel that way when I tell you why. Okay. I knew there was a catch. Don't make me regret this.
Starting point is 00:01:06 What is it? Well, it's simply that you, me, most likely every adult out there have microscopic mites living in our skin. Oh, you made me regret it. They've been found on lots of places on your body. And yes, one of those places is your face. Mites? Like bugs on your face? Well, okay, so technically, don't worry. No, they are not insects.
Starting point is 00:01:33 They are arachnids, which is different. So think more closely related to tips. or spiders. This isn't better. That's not better. Let's just all have an open mind here. I will point out that you and the rest of our listeners were living your life totally fine before I told you this.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Okay, we're going to talk later because this is not an anniversary present. So today on the show, we celebrate our one year anniversary by talking about the mites who have done nothing wrong that live on your skin, what they can teach us about where we've come from, and what they do on your face. while you sleep at night. What is that supposed to mean? I'm Maddie Safaya, and this is Shortwave from NPR.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Okay, so this episode, we've got another one of our microwaves. So a few science tidbits and some listener mail. And today we are talking about the microscopic mites that live on our bodies. The adult mites look like little worms with eight legs on their kind of top half, I guess I would call it. And the mites live for a few weeks or so. This is incredibly gross, but ultimately I support you. I also cannot stop you. Today's expert, Megan Timis, is quite used to the reaction that you're having right now, Emily.
Starting point is 00:02:55 So I told her I would defend how cool they are, which she appreciated. I'm very excited to hear that because a lot of people really freak out and I get a lot of crazy emails. These days, Megan's a postdoc at the University of California, San Diego. But before that, when she was at North Carolina State University, she studied these mites. And she wanted to know just how prevalent they were in humans. So she and her team looked for DNA evidence like a crime scene on people's faces. The first study that we did on them, we found them on 100% of adults that we tested. And now we have looked at thousands of people and have yet to find someone without them. Okay, wait, I'm going to stop you right there because I've never heard scientists say 100% on anything. Yeah, of adults. Let's be clear. I mean, there's also this historical paper that shows that
Starting point is 00:03:49 they were found on 100% of adult cadavers. So there's also that. Oh, great. Yeah, I was worried you weren't going to find a way to bring dead bodies into this. Happy anniversary. Aren't you supposed to give people like paper or something for their first year anniversary? Yeah, there are multiple scientific papers in this episode. You're welcome. I got you. I got you. Go on, finish it up. And what's really interesting to me is that for an animal that lives on potentially all of us, we don't really know that much about them. We actually don't know what they eat. So there's been some people that have said they eat dead skin cells or bacteria or maybe potentially the oils that are secreted from the sebaceous glands.
Starting point is 00:04:38 So Megan says it's really hard to study what they've eaten because they're so small. Like, it's really difficult to differentiate between what's on them versus what's inside them, if that makes sense. She said she thinks they're probably eating microbes like fungi, but that's yet to be proven. But what do they, like, do all day? Well, you know, Emily, they live their lives just like the rest of us, and they shouldn't be judged for that. They typically hang out in your pore, especially during the day, because they're photosensitive. And so they don't really like the light. And so they hang out in your pores and do their mite things.
Starting point is 00:05:14 And then at night when you go to sleep, they come out on your face and they hate have sex and then they go back into their pores. I just, I mean, I knew I had deep pores. But Emily, I'll just stop you right there. It does get worse before it gets better. So they lay these really large eggs. They're about a third of the size of their body. So you have little mites that are half. watching all over your face at any given time.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Megan, I thought we were going to try to make these mites seem palatable for people. You know what I mean? That's put a good spin on it. That's not endearing. One, you should have been a PR campaign manager for invertebrates. Two, I'm glad someone's having fun out there, you know? See, you're getting it, Kwong. You're starting to get it. Finding might love.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Here's the thing. In the overwhelming majority of people, these mites don't seem to be doing anything harmful. Which brings me to my favorite thing about these mice and arguably... Oh, none of this has been your favorite. Yep. Listen, listen, it's arguably the least gross part too. Because they are so closely associated with us, we can actually learn things about ourselves from them. So the mites that you get when you are born from your parents, most likely, those are the mites that you typically have throughout your life.
Starting point is 00:06:38 if your population stays really stable. So we can actually look at the genetics of the mites and tell where your family is from historically, whether your family is from Asia or Europe or Africa. So you can tell where your family is from based on the genetics of the mites themselves? Yeah, I mean, that seems to be true in a lot of cases. I mean, who needs ancestry.com, right?
Starting point is 00:07:05 Just like talk to the mites on your face. And, you know, like, what's wild to me is that these are the only critter of their type, the only arthropods, not like microbes like bacteria, but an animal that lives really close with so many of us for generations. And, like, you know, although it might feel a little gross initially, it's pretty remarkable. Plus, you know, it's certainly possible that they could even be helpful. So they could be removing certain types of bacteria or fungi from the skin or protecting your body from infection. And, you know, you can think of it as having just thousands of friends living on you. So you're never alone that way. Isn't that nice?
Starting point is 00:07:47 See, I told you this episode was about how you're never alone, Emily. Thank you for being you. I really, this is nice. This is nice. I like this. Yes, yes. And, I mean, how could we ever really be alone when we have hundreds of thousands of shortwave listeners showing us all the love on a regular basis?
Starting point is 00:08:07 It's true. It's true. They're out there. So I want to turn to our listener mailbag. We got a note from Nick in Wisconsin who wrote us about the shortwave Madlib from back in May that we did together. Do you remember that? Yes, I do. Listeners, if you miss that one, do yourself a favor and go back to it. It is classic 10 out of 10 quong content, in my opinion. I mostly wrote it to amuse Maddie. Anyway, Nick is a PhD student researching the microbiology of anaerobic digestive. Oh, microbiology. And wrote, today, I heard your little Madlib from back on May 25th, and it
Starting point is 00:08:44 absolutely turned my day around. The lab was really beating me down. Thoughts of walking off and never returning to research again were pulling at me hard. Nick, I feel you, buddy. Enter your silly shortwave madlib, and I had a whole new perspective on my day. I'm so grateful for your lighthearted humor and accessible science communications. All the best, Nicholas. Oh, thank you, Nick. And I'm going to tell you what, Nick, you're going to get through it. And if you don't want to get through it, just leave.
Starting point is 00:09:13 They can't keep you there, Nick. They can't keep you there. I do this show now. I'm just saying. We keep it real. Okay. Okay. And here's a note from Sean, who wrote about last week's microwave on talking to plants and whether it helps them grow.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Kwong, you got this one for us. Short answer. Science says probably not, but doesn't hurt. Is that fair? Yeah. Okay. So Sean said, I run a before and after school program for an elementary school. and we have a house plant that the kids have named Badoon.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Zero clue where they got that name. That's in parentheses. The kids like to tell her she's pretty and will complain to her about anything and everything and she's thriving in our little window. Might not be scientifically backed, but I am a firm believer. It helps. Shout out to Badoon and the children who talk to her.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Glad you do. You can write us at shortwave at npr.org. That is it from us today. We want to take a moment, though, to say thank you. Honestly, thank you for listening to us for the last year. Making this show for you has seriously been the honor and the opportunity of a lifetime, and we love doing it. We love it. We love it. And we promise to stay curious and weird with you. Clearly. And to bring you science coverage that you can trust. Here's to another year. Ching, ching. If I had champagne, I'd... Wait, do you not have champagne?
Starting point is 00:10:32 Okay. I have champagne. It's still five o'clock. This episode was produced by Brent Bachman, edited by Viet Le, and fact-checked by Ariela Zabidi. I'm Maddie Safaya. And I'm Emily Kwong. Thanks for listening to Shortwave from NPR. I'm Rodney Carl Markle. And on this episode of Louder Than a Riot, did bias against rap lyrics seal the fate of No Limits Mac Phipps? This guy should be incarcerated.
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