Short Wave - Striving To Make Space Accessible For People With Disabilities
Episode Date: December 16, 2021As spaceflight inches closer to becoming a reality for some private citizens, science correspondent Geoff Brumfiel chats with the New York Times disability fellow Amanda Morris about why one organizat...ion wants to insure people with disabilities have the chance to go to space.Email Short Wave at ShortWave@NPR.org. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.NPR Privacy Policy
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When Apurva Varia was in the ninth grade,
he was watching the television, and the way he describes it,
he saw all these people in like orange spacesuits sitting on this vessel,
and then he's seeing this countdown of 10, 9, 8,
and then he saw stuff coming out of the bottom of the rocket,
and then all of a sudden the rocket shoots up into the sky,
and disappeared, and he was like, wait, where did they go?
That's Amanda Morris with the New York Times.
And she says Apurva was amazed by what he was seeing on TV, except he kind of didn't know
exactly what he was watching.
Because at the time, remember, this is, you know, decades ago, there was no captions
on his TV.
So he could see what was going on, but he didn't really know what was actually happening
because he couldn't hear the narrator.
What Apurva saw was a crew of Al-a-Saw.
astronauts heading into space.
And he was like, I want to go to space and I want to be an astronaut.
So he immediately wrote a letter to NASA and he learned everything he could about space.
But then, he got a letter back.
It was a big envelope.
There was a letter inside that said, thank you for writing.
And unfortunately, we can't accept death astronauts right now, but maybe we can in the future.
Despite this letter, he wasn't deterred from making space a big part of his life.
So he went on and earned advanced engineering degrees and then went on to work for NASA.
He has directed space missions and helped design propulsion systems for satellites.
So he's a pretty big deal at NASA.
And he was a mission director for three different spacecrafts.
And after working behind the scenes for over two decades, this past October,
Apurva did something that might provide an opportunity for other people with disabilities like him to go to space.
Last October, Aperva got as close as you can get to space without going to space.
He got to go on a flight that mimics zero gravity.
And when I talked to Aperva before the flight, he was so excited.
He was like, oh, my God, like, I'm finally going to get to see what it's like to float around
and do all these things that all these astronauts have always done that, you know, he's seen all these astronauts do this.
He's worked with astronauts.
but he's never gotten to do it himself.
So today on the show, as spaceflight inches closer to becoming a reality for some private citizens,
Amanda Morris, the New York Times Disability Reporting Fellow, shares why one organization wants to ensure
that people with disabilities have the chance to go as well.
I'm Jeff Brumfield, and you're listening to Shortwave, the Daily Science Podcast from NPR.
Okay, Amanda, so this past year, we've seen some private citizens actually make a disability.
based through these companies funded by billionaires.
I'm talking about SpaceX, Virgin Galactic, Blue Origin.
And your reporting focuses on another organization called Astro Access.
In October, they conducted this experimental flight.
Tell me about the group and the mission.
So Astro Access is a nonprofit initiative that's trying to make spaceflight accessible to all.
And they argue that this is critical to do now while private spaceflight is starting to open up.
rather than waiting until later because time and time again, what we've seen is that if you think about people with disabilities from the get-go and you design spacecraft and you design protocols that includes them, it's a lot easier and cheaper to implement those tools than it is to retrofit spacecraft to accommodate people later.
And this is critical right now because currently the federal aviation administration is prohibited from creating safety regulations for,
these private spacelights until October 2023. So the hope of Astro Access is that they can do this
research now and then use that research to inform the Federal Aviation Administration so that they
don't make rules that prohibit people from disabilities from going to space. Because that's the big worry
is that if we don't do any research to prove that people with disabilities can go to space,
the Federal Aviation Administration might just follow what NASA has done since the 1960s and might
just say, oh, it isn't going to be safe for people with disabilities to go to space.
Right. Well, let's talk about that. Let's talk about the current rules for space travel for people
with disabilities, at least in the case of the U.S. How has NASA treated disabilities in the past?
Yeah, since the 1960s, NASA has really restricted who can become an astronaut to people with
the quote, unquote, right, stuff, right? So we're talking about white, physically fit men at first.
And then later they broadened the criteria to include women and people of color, but they still never included people with disabilities.
But I think it could be a possibility in the future because the European Space Agency has already announced that they will be accepting astronauts who have leg amputations or who are especially short and that they hope to expand in the future to include more types of disabilities.
So I think this could change.
And if private space space shows that people with disabilities can go to space, then perhaps NASA will consider changing their criteria as well.
Right. I mean, this past September, Haley Arsino, a childhood cancer survivor, did make it onto a private flight.
She has a metal bone in her leg, and that made her the first person with a prosthesis to get into orbit.
And I guess that really emphasized the reason for doing something like Astro Access right now, right?
I mean, this sort of feels like a moment where things could change.
Yes.
She went into orbit with Space X in September during the Inspiration 4 flight.
And if you just check out her Twitter or anything, she's posted all sorts of pictures.
And it's really cool.
And I was very jealous.
And it's interesting because other space companies such as Virgin Galactic said that they are considering people who have prosthetics, hearing impairments, paralysis, or other medical and physical conditions and disabilities to go into space.
And essentially they're going to consider people with disabilities on a case-by-case basis
and consider creating or making accommodations for them.
But when I reached out to Blue Origin, another space company, the one that's owned by Jeff Bezos,
they said in a statement that passengers must meet a list of requirements.
And these requirements included a certain height and weight range.
They included being able to walk quickly over uneven surfaces, see and
respond to alert lights, hear and understand instructions, and reliably follow instructions
provided over a radio speaker or alert lights. So as you can imagine, requiring people to
walk, hear things, and see things would automatically restrict who is able to go on their flights.
So Astro Access is really hoping to change that and allow people with disabilities onto their
flight. So let's talk about this astro-axis flight. This wasn't an actual space flight. Just describe to me
what the mission is, how it works. Basically, the plane itself goes up and down in repeated arcs. You get about
20 to 30 seconds of weightlessness. So this could be zero gravity, or this could be lunar gravity,
or this could be Martian gravity. And essentially, lunar gravity is about one-sixth of
of Earth's gravity and Martian gravity is about one third of Earth's gravity.
And they only have 15 tries to go float around and then get back to your seat.
Because on a suborbital flight, you fly up and you go to space, but you only go to space for a few minutes.
And then you've got to get back to your seat before the spacecraft goes back down into the atmosphere of the Earth.
And this is really important for safety.
So essentially, they wanted to see, you know, can somebody who is paralyzed from the ways down get back to their seat?
Or can somebody who's blind get back to their seat?
And they found that, yeah, they could.
The flight had a roughly 90% success rate, which was pretty high and pretty successful if you consider the fact that this is their first time doing it.
But essentially, people with disabilities are really used to navigating and getting around in lots of different ways.
And in space, you need to have that type of flexible mindset, and you need to be ready to handle a lot of different challenges.
And people with disabilities have handled challenges their whole lives.
Yeah.
I mean, it really came across in your article that they had this flexibility and adaptability that was a real strength in that kind of environment.
I could see that.
So, Amanda, what else did we learn from the astro access experimental flights?
I guess there's a few things.
They were testing out a lot of different things.
They were testing specially modified flight suits.
They were testing special lighting systems for deaf people.
They were testing ultrasonic or haptic, which is a vibrating device.
So they were basically just testing all this stuff to see what people with disabilities may or may not need.
And I think one of the biggest takeaways was that they don't need that much.
A lot of the people I talked to, including the ambassadors themselves, said, oh, we thought we were going to need this.
And we thought we were going to need that.
But really, we just needed like what we use anyway.
So, for example, one of the blind ambassadors, Mona, told me that, you know, they had her
testing an ultrasonic device that would give her a signal when she got closer to her seat and a
haptic device that vibrated when she got close to like a wall or some other edge.
And she didn't really use those as much as she used her extendable cane, right?
And that's just because she already knows how to use the cane.
And it was a pretty simple adjustment.
And a lot of the things they were testing were actually pretty simple modifications that if you added them in now,
would not be that difficult to add in and would enable a lot of people with disabilities to be able to do this safely.
When I talked to Operva, he talked about how he was trying to do sign language with somebody else.
But he was floating upside down and the other person was spinning the other way.
and it was just kind of hard to keep track of what the signs were.
So he was saying, oh, if we could have just strapped our seals in somewhere, that would have been useful.
And that is something that you can imagine would be useful to somebody with or without a disability.
So the last thing I wanted to ask you, Amanda, I mean, of course, most people, disabled or otherwise aren't in space.
They're on Earth.
and most of the challenges that disabled people will encounter are here on Earth.
So is there a reason, you think, to focus on space right now?
Is there a reason to sort of turn our attention there,
potentially at the cost of trying to improve things here on the ground?
A lot of innovations that NASA has come up with for space
have ended up being really important on Earth, too.
Things like lightweight metal alloys that are used,
on wheelchairs, right?
Or things like monitoring devices and medical devices that now get used in hospitals
across the country and across the world on Earth, right?
So I think another big thing we learned from this is that if you send people with
disabilities into space, we have the potential to make new discoveries that could lead
to new innovations that are useful both on space and on Earth.
And it could be useful for everybody, and it could be especially useful for people with disabilities.
There's this principle called universal basic design.
And it's this idea that if you design something to be accessible for everybody,
then it will be kind of this perfect design that's useful for anybody, right?
So if you design a building that is accessible to somebody in a wheelchair,
it's also going to be accessible to somebody
who is carrying a heavy box
or pushing a baby stroller
or anything else, really?
Like you break your leg or, you know,
everybody has different reasons
why they might be able to use a ramp
or an automatic door opener.
So I think space has always really captured
the imagination in that way, right?
And if we can see people with disabilities
going to space,
imagine how that might inspire
somebody to know that they really can do anything.
Thank you, Amanda. I have really enjoyed this conversation.
I really enjoyed talking with you as well.
This episode was produced by Thomas Liu, edited by Giselle Grayson and fact-checked by Margaret
Serino. The audio engineer for this episode was Leo del Aguilla.
Thanks for listening to Shortwave, the Daily Science podcast from NPR.
