Short Wave - The U.S. Doesn't Use The Metric System. Or Does It?

Episode Date: March 6, 2020

From currency and commerce, food labels to laboratories, the metric system is the foundation of many science and math fields. To mark our 100th episode (a multiple of 10, which is the basis for the me...tric system!), we spoke with Elizabeth Benham, Metric Program Coordinator at the National Institute of Standards and Technology, about the presence of the metric system in our everyday lives. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.NPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, everybody. Maddie Safaya here. Hey, I'm Emily Kwong. And here's the thing. Y'all have probably been listening to us for a while now, but have you gotten serious about us? Have you locked it down? Have you committed to this relationship? What Maddie means is please subscribe to this podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:15 Actually subscribe and maybe tell a friend that you love it and that they should listen to. Thanks so much. Okay, here's the show. You're listening to Shortwave from NPR. Emily Kwong, we have. have a podcast milestone to celebrate today. Are we rich?
Starting point is 00:00:33 Well, no, you know we're not. But we are rich in memories. Like that one time for the science of thrill-seeking, where we popped out of the studio and scared the crap out of you. I'm actively trying to forget that. Or that time we learned about orangutan speech, and we played kazoo's. You're kazooing. Just to be clear, you've brought a kazoo in here for a reason.
Starting point is 00:01:01 I love that. Our favorite instrument, the kazoo. Well, strike up the band, Kwong. because today marks our 100th episode. Making this daily science show for all of you is such an honor. We've all aged about 100 years, to be honest, but you make it all worth it. So to celebrate our streaming centennial. Our 100th day of bringing you new discoveries, everyday mysteries, and the science behind the headlines.
Starting point is 00:01:31 We were trying to think about what we could do with this 100th episode. And I thought 100, delightful multiple of 10. Oh, the metric system. Really? That is how my brain works. Yes, it's true. I saw it happen. And we're here now to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:01:47 So like the hundred candles on the shortwave birthday cake, the metric system is based in units of 10. As a standard unit of measure, it's the foundation of science and technology. Right. You've got the second for measuring time, which we literally never have enough of. The meter for length. The kilogram for mass. And there are others, such as the candela for luminous intensity, like the future of this podcast. Today on the show, our 100th episode, we mark the occasion by taking measure of the metric system.
Starting point is 00:02:16 A little history of why the United States avoids a measurement system the rest of the world embraces. And how, in practical terms, the U.S. may be kind of a metric nation after all. All right, Kwong, today we are talking about the metric system. Honestly, once you're in a committed relationship with the metric system like I was in grad school, all other systems just don't do it for you. Well, the metric system, it's fitting for this podcast because, It's used broadly across math and science to make sure measurements are precise and accurate. Two of our favorite things.
Starting point is 00:02:53 You wouldn't want to dose the wrong amount of medicine, for instance, or pipette the wrong amount of liquid into a petri dish. The precision, Kwong, the precision you can have with the metric system. And because the metric system structures units around successive powers of 10, conversion is as easy as moving a decimal point. Right. So 1,000 milliliters is 1 liter. And 1,000 grams is one kilogram. The powers of 10 are marked by prefixes, DESE, scentsy, milly, and so on. You basically just have to learn one system of conversions with base 10.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Or you can use what we use in the U.S. and memorize 45 different ways to measure liquids, without a straightforward conversion between them. Gallons, quarts, ounces. Who has this kind of time, qual? Well, like it or not, Maddie Safaya, that's the common system of measurement in the United States. The American household uses what's called the U.S. customary system.
Starting point is 00:03:48 And for that, we have early settlers with roots in the British Empire to thank the gallon, the foot, the yard, the pound. The nonsense. Is there anything dumber than a gallon? So why would the United States resist a system of measurement used by the vast majority of the world? Yeah, so in the United States, Liberia and Myanmar, the metric system is not the main system. system of measurement. And our relationship to the metric system in the U.S. is complicated. So the metric system gained its footing during the French Revolution. Thomas Jefferson looked into it, but Congress ultimately rejected adopting metric as the system of the U.S.
Starting point is 00:04:29 And there have been government-led attempts to fully metricate the U.S. ever since, most recently in the 1970s. Well, there's something new for Uncle Sam. It's out with the pound and in with kilogram, out with the... Put in with the meter, out with the court. Out with the court. In with the leader. I actually didn't know that we almost went metric.
Starting point is 00:04:54 A few times. So this is an educational video called a metric America. Created around the time President Gerald Ford signed the Metric Conversion Act in 1975, which sought to increase the use of the metric system in the U.S. by appointing a 17-member metric board to guide. to guide the country's transition. And you start to see PSAs like this from the then called U.S. Office of Education.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Take 10 America to learn the metric way. It's a simple system based on tens that you can start today. Efficient, more accurate, more universal too. It's good for our economy, our country, and for you. Wow. It's beautiful. It's the world you want to live in.
Starting point is 00:05:37 I know. So what happened? Well, the problem with the metric conversion act you could argue is that it didn't go all the way. It made swapping systems voluntary, not mandatory. The metric board said it lacked the congressional mandate to really make this switch happen, and their calls for conversion were largely ignored by the public. I think there were concerns with labor that maybe the transition to metrication would maybe put people out of jobs. They wouldn't have the skill set or the tools that they needed to transition. and learned this new thing. So there was a bit of labor resistance going on. That's Elizabeth Benham, the metric program coordinator for the National Institute of Standards and Technologies. Her job, Maddie, is to help companies that want to transition to the metric system do so. And there were plenty of what she calls early adopters to the metric system in the 1970s.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Companies like IBM, Caterpillar, Xerox, and so forth, they were manufacturing their equipment or having a kind of international supply chain. And they needed those parts to fit together when they assembled their product. So basically they were working internationally, so it made sense for them to work under that system. Exactly. And other companies, especially those with products on the global market, have hopped on board. And as things are replaced, they get replaced with metric designs and best practices. Other economies, other organizations are further along than others. But everyone is headed in that same path. Basically, as the world has globalized, science and industry in the U.S. has metricated.
Starting point is 00:07:15 But like an iceberg, Elizabeth says, the metric system lies below the surface invisible to most consumers. What they see is going to the gas pump every day. They see what they see in the grocery store. They see U.S. customer units being there. That's their perspective and their experience. And public divisiveness towards the metric system is real. There are those who wish we had converted a long time ago, but there are plenty who are fervently against it.
Starting point is 00:07:43 But to be fair, converting the U.S. to metric would be a huge undertaking. And the customary system, it's what people know and what they're comfortable with. But what I realize from talking to Elizabeth is that whether you like it or not, there are traces of the metric system in the United States everywhere, literally lining our pockets. Okay. You've brought some coins to the studio. Yes, like this one. Okay, that's a penny. How much do you think a penny weighs?
Starting point is 00:08:13 Okay, weirdly, I do know this one, which is not that fun, but it's two and a half grams. Okay, so that's correct. What about this, Dr. Sophia? This is a nickel. That, I would say, is four grams? Five grams. And if you're wondering what a kilogram feels like, give me your hand. Okay, this is a lot of coin.
Starting point is 00:08:33 That is five rolls of... nickels. Are these for me? If a nickel is five grams, five rolls of nickels, it's about a kilogram. Got it. So even our money is designed to meet metric specifications. Yes, the U.S. Mint follows the metric system when it's making our money. Exactly. And this water bottle on the table right here. So the Fair Packaging and Labeling Act was modified in 1992 to require that metric units be displayed alongside customary units. So I can see from this label that are here that I'm drinking 16.9 fluid ounces of water, but then in parentheses, it says I'm drinking 500 milliliters, exactly. And it really is all about what system you're paying attention to when you're looking at packaging.
Starting point is 00:09:21 You'll see the metric system is actually quite omnipresent. So what are kids being taught to like pay attention to in schools? Well, kids are absolutely being taught the U.S. customary system in school and using it at home for sure. Yeah, gallons of milk. Right. And we measure kids' height in feet, right? Sure. But the common core math standards in the United States require knowledge of the metric system by the fourth grade and the ability to convert using the metric system by the fifth grade. Elizabeth's office actually sends out metric kits to teachers every year.
Starting point is 00:09:54 And tried and true, her office has an animated series. Absolutely, they do. Educational videos have been used throughout time with the metric system. And this particular series depicts the seven base units as superheroes, the Measurement League, fighting uncertainty, imprecision, and inaccuracy. Stop right there, major uncertainty. You're too late, Professor Second. My power.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Elizabeth loves this. She's particularly partial to Candela. Everywhere you go, you light up a room. So who wouldn't want to be in Candela? We haven't forgotten. But we've become a lot more accurate and precise. I'm so happy. And listen, it's her job to be pro-metric and to support the conversion to the metric system that, whether we like it or not, is happening in the U.S.
Starting point is 00:10:48 And Elizabeth's big point is that students genuinely benefit from fluency in the metric system, especially those keen to work in math and science, engineering, and technology. The STEM career pipeline starts young. And, you know, our economy will benefit from having, you know, knowledgeable young people that are going to take the jobs of all of our retiring boomers, right? Yeah. So we need them coming up the pipeline and ready to go and prepared for the, you know, the future. But for now, the U.S. makes it work as a dual measurement country, operating in both metric and customary, depending on what you're looking to measure. Thank you for celebrating our 100.
Starting point is 00:11:32 100th episode birthday. Our gratitude knows no measure. Metric or customary. And the best gift you can give us is again to hit that subscribe button if you haven't already. Honestly, we're offended. It's taking you so long. And I would also suggest telling one friend who you think would value more science-based news and newsy science in their earholes about shortwave. This episode was produced by Britt Hansen and edited by Viet Le. The facts were checked by Emily Vaughn. I'm Maddie Safia. and I'm Emily Kwong. Thanks for listening to Shortwave from NPR.

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