Short Wave - What Happened To The American Chestnut Tree?

Episode Date: December 20, 2019

In the early 20th century, a blight fungus wiped out most of the 4 billion American chestnut trees on the eastern seaboard. The loss was ecologically devastating. Pod reporter Emily Kwong tells us how... scientists are trying to resurrect the American chestnut tree — and recent controversy over a plan to plant genetically modified chestnuts in the wild. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.NPR Privacy Policy

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Starting point is 00:00:24 You're listening to Shortwave from NPR. Hey everybody, Maddie Safaya here with shortwave reporter Emily Kwong. Hey, Maddie. Hey, Kwong. You've been delving into the mystery of what happened to one of the most significant trees in the United States, the American chestnut. Yes, the Kwong family is very into chestnuts. Every Christmas season, we'd buy them roasted on the streets of New York. My dad folds them into his stuffing.
Starting point is 00:00:51 And of course, you honestly can't go anywhere this time of year without hearing Nat King Cole sing about them. You know what I'm talking about. I do. Chestnuts roasting on an open fire. It just sets the mood. Right? You know what time it is. But Maddie, it took years of eating chestnuts,
Starting point is 00:01:09 listening to this song to ask myself, why haven't I ever seen a chestnut tree in the United States? Have you ever wondered that? Oh, every day, Kwong. No, really. Have you ever wondered that? No, I haven't. It's odd because by 1945,
Starting point is 00:01:25 when that Christmas song was written, most of the four billion chestnut trees on the eastern seaboard had died. The chestnuts you buy these days, the ones I eat, are all imported from Europe and Asia. Huh. And if you ask people from Appalachia, where the chestnut was an important species for the ecosystem and the economy, this tree represented a way of life that was lost. Rex Mann of Kentucky says his father never got over it. He never became reconciled to that loss.
Starting point is 00:01:55 He was always hopeful that. Something would happen, you know, that the tree would come back. Now, Rex is one of the many people working to bring a version of the American chestnut tree back and tapping into the very genetics of the tree to do it. Today on the show, The Death and Potential Rebirth of the American Chestnut Tree, how science is trying to give this functionally extinct tree a fresh start, and how that has created some controversy. Okay, Kwong, the mysterious disappearance of the American Chestnut Tree,
Starting point is 00:02:31 tree. Take it away. All right. Let's bring it back to Rex Mann. He's retired from the U.S. Forest Service and really knows the trees of Southern Appalachia. Last year, he gave a TEDx talk that opened with this memory of sitting around the fire as his father, Howard Mann, told chestnut stories. He's talking with great passion about what the tree meant to his people. It's huge size, the wonderful wood used for everything. And the never-failing crops of chestnuts that nirth, that nirth, the mountain people. It's a beloved tree. And historical accounts back this up. Chestnut trees were abundant and estimated 20% of the Appalachian forests. They could grow over 100 feet tall and their chestnuts coated the ground. So wildlife species from white-tailed deer to black bears, wild turkeys and squirrels
Starting point is 00:03:19 depended on them. Farmers could lean on chestnuts as feed for their hogs. And the nuts were so valuable that residents in the smoky mountains gathered bushels for trading purposes. Take them to the local country store and they would swap them for things that they had no money to buy, like shoes for the kids. But Rex, he never saw any of this because in 1904, a mysterious and deadly fungus was discovered on trees in New York City. They likely came from a nursery stock of Japanese chestnut trees, and this blight began to spread down the coast.
Starting point is 00:03:52 So by 1950, a few decades later, most of the 4 billion chestnut trees were dead or infected with blight fungus. Okay, so what does this fungus look like? Okay, it's a parasitic fungus with a bright yellow-orange color. It can grow underneath the bark looking like these orange gashes or on the top creating these actively fruiting postules. Pustules are never good. Yeah, it's pretty gross. And pretty sad because once infected, the trees really don't stand a chance.
Starting point is 00:04:18 The blight, it cuts off nutrients and water to the rest of the tree. And for America's forests to change so dramatically just when the Great Depression hit and people really relied on these chestnuts, it was devastating. Rex remembers as a kid walking through the aftermath. What I saw when I was growing up was the trunks of the chestnut. They were still standing in the forest. Important footnote, the blight doesn't actually kill the root system of these trees. American chestnut trees, Jared estimates there are about 400 million now, are basically shrubs sprouting from the roots, and they get infected by the blight and are killed back before reaching sexual
Starting point is 00:05:00 maturity. It's like the whole species has been condemned to eternal infancy. Poor little trees never get to grow up. Exactly. Because the blight lives on naturalized in the environment, in the leaf litter on other trees that don't get sick from it. So that's why by 1950, the American chestnut tree was declared functionally extinct. Right. So the big strong trees, they were basically gone. Yes. And Rex remembers a researcher lecturing to his forestry class basically saying they're gone. I remember him saying, hey, the tree's gone forever. Forget about it.
Starting point is 00:05:34 And they're just giving up all hope. But Maddie, there might be hope. Chestnut tree hope. Something like it. So in 1983, a group formed the American Chestnut Foundation. Rex Mann has been a longtime member of the Kentucky chapter. And as the science has evolved, so too has the foundation's strategies for bringing back a version of the American Chestnut Tree that can fend off the fungus. So we can grow and essentially reproduct.
Starting point is 00:05:58 on its own in nature. Yes. And I cannot overstate, Maddie, how far reaching this effort has been. There are 16 state chapters. And at one point, this man named Bill Owens recorded a song to help them raise money. Like manner from heaven. Oh, wow. Yeah, he did.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Sung alongside his very famous niece. Dolly! The one and only. Is this real? That's Dolly Parton. And she released this. song a few years ago for this whole effort. The song ends with the line, Oh, Mighty Magic Chessnut Tree, thank God for second chances. And it's science that's giving this tree a second chance.
Starting point is 00:06:44 My name is Jared Westbrook. I work for the American Chestnut Foundation. Jared is the director of science there overseeing this three-pronged initiative to restore the tree. Tree-pronged approach, if you will. Wow. Wow. Break it down for me, Kwong. All right. Strategy number one, prong number one is traditional breeding. So for nearly a century, scientific, have been experimenting with crossbreeding, the American chestnut with the Chinese chestnut tree, which does not get sick from the blight. Okay, so it's like a combo tree. Right. And over the decades, they've taken these offspring and performed a special kind of crossbreeding called backcrossing that reinforces the traits of the American chestnut tree.
Starting point is 00:07:21 And it's been pretty successful. There's three generations of these hybrids at the Foundation's research farm in Virginia. So we've planted hundreds of thousands of trees at this farm, and now we're selecting the 1% most resistant trees. It's still slow going and maybe not the best strategy because Jared's realized that blight resistance is not a simply inherited trait after all. So there's a lot more genes involved, and as you do more crossing to American chestnut,
Starting point is 00:07:50 you get trees that are less blight-tolerant. So traditional breeding has its limits. The more you make these trees American chestnut-y, the less able they are, it appears, to combat the blight. Which brings us to prong number two, attacking the blight itself by infecting it with a virus. That's probably fine. I'm not worried about that at all. But it makes sense, right, to go directly to the source? Counterstrike? No? Sure. What happens?
Starting point is 00:08:13 Well, this strategy has been effective in Europe, saving their trees from blight. But the problem in the U.S. is you'd have to go around and individually infect each spot of fungus on the tree. And that is just not realistic. So much work. But we can't go out to the forest and treat. 400 million trees with this virus every year. So it's too labor intensive for large scale restoration, but it works for our breeding efforts. So what about prong number three? What's that? Prong number three, it's the most interesting, but also the most
Starting point is 00:08:47 controversial for some folks because it involves transgenic organisms. So think about corn or cotton. Got it. Okay. We've added new genes to those agricultural crops to protect them from insects or allow them to tolerate certain weed killers. Yeah, sure. We got some GMOs out there. Yeah. And members of the New York chapter wondered, could we do something like that for the American chestnut tree? Researchers at the State University of New York, their College of Environmental Science and Forestry, tackled that question. They chose a gene naturally found in wheat and a lot of other grass plants and inserted it into American chestnut trees. They planted that first
Starting point is 00:09:24 transgenic tree outside the lab in 2006. And their hope is that such a tree. will be planted in the wild someday. And how does this gene affect the American chestnut tree? Okay. So this gene is responsible for creating an enzyme which has the ability to combat oxalic acid. And oxalic acid is what's ultimately attacking trees that have been infected with the blight fungus, killing their cells. So this gene is essentially protecting the tree from being totally consumed by the fungus.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Right. So these trees have been genetically modified at this point. That's right. They're not wild American chestnut trees, but a GMO version. Researchers at SUNY call these samples darling American chestnut trees. And before they can be planted in the wild, they have to pass federal regulatory approval. The USDA, the EPA, the FDA, they all have to sign off. And what are these regulatory agencies looking for?
Starting point is 00:10:17 Basically, they'll want to know how these transgenic chestnuts are impacting the environment around them. The soil, nearby fungi, other plants, they'll want to know about tree growth rates and pollen flow. There are a lot of variables to consider, a lot of testing to be done on trees that are still pretty young, and that's made some people very nervous. Right. Some people are worried about genetically engineered trees and other things being released into the wild. Yes. For those concerned about GMOs, this tree is raising eyebrows. In March, two members of the Foundation's Massachusetts, Rhode Island chapter stepped down over this. A group of activists released a white paper saying this would be a, quote, massive and irreversible experiment. They're fearful this could change. the ecosystem in ways we just can't predict. And Jared gets where these critics are coming from.
Starting point is 00:11:04 It messes with people's idea of what is natural or what is nature. And we're doing an interventionist approach to a problem that humans caused in terms of bringing in introduced pathogens that the native species are naive to and they're susceptible to. Basically, human intervention caused the blight so human intervention should fix it. But of course, if this happens with the chestnut tree, it could open the door for genetically engineering other trees, forest biotechnology. And there's public opposition to that idea. Big questions out there, Kwong. Yeah, this tree, honestly, is the poster child for raising those questions. What lengths are we willing to go to to bring back trees?
Starting point is 00:11:47 Jared argues that because the American chestnut tree was such a keystone species in its heyday, so ecologically important that this tree is worth all the trouble. It would be very difficult to try to resurrect all of the species that have gone extinct as a result of human intervention. But if we were selective about choosing keystone species that have a large ecological effect, I think that is where the intervention is justified. And the public can weigh in on these decisions regarding these transgenic chestnut trees when they're up for federal review next year. All right, Emily Kwong, I appreciate you. Thank you for sharing with us.
Starting point is 00:12:26 the scientific saga of the American chestnut tree. Such a saga. Yeah. You're welcome, Maddie. This episode was produced by Britt Hansen and edited by Viet Le. And thanks to NPR correspondent Dan Charles for his help with this episode. I'm Maddie Safia. I'm Emily Kwong.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Thank you for listening to Shortwave from NPR.

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