Short Wave - Why Music Sticks in Our Brains
Episode Date: October 7, 2021Why do some songs can stick with us for a long time, even when other memories start to fade? Science reporter (and former Short Wave intern) Rasha Aridi explains the neuroscience behind that surprisin...g moment of, "Wow, how do I still remember that song?!" Email the show at shortwave@npr.org.See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.NPR Privacy Policy
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Hey, Shortwavers, Ritu Chatterjee here with former Shortwave intern Rasha Aurethi.
Hey, Rasha.
Hey, Ratu. I'm so excited to talk with you.
Me too.
So I hear you have something fun and musical for us today.
I do.
I got the idea for this episode a while ago.
I had come home one day and I found my parents loudly playing old Arabic songs while they were cooking.
The kind of songs that they used to pull.
on cassettes in the car when I was little.
Oh, you know, coming from a culture where old songs are still just as loved and enjoyed,
for me, old Hindi and Bangla songs evokes so much nostalgia even today.
Me too, they're really special.
And I haven't heard, you know, these Arabic songs in years and years.
But after just a few seconds of listening to them,
the tune and all the lyrics just came flooding back to me.
And I found myself singing along without even realizing that I,
I remembered that song.
Have you ever had that feeling?
Oh, absolutely.
You know, I've had these moments a lot lately as I've been singing to my son while
putting him to bed.
And lo and behold, my brain pulled out these old songs that my parents had sung to me
when they put me to bed or I had sung as a child.
And entire songs, the lyrics just came right back.
Oh, that's so sweet, Ritu.
And yeah, that same feeling kind of.
led me to ask, how in the world did our brains just summon the lyrics and the tune from what feels like the deepest depths of memory?
Not knowing was bugging me, so obviously I made a call.
My name is Keith Doling. I'm a postdoctoral researcher at the Institus Bloducon in Paris, France.
I do neuroscience of speech and music perception.
Keith says he tends to remember the music and forget the lyrics of a song, but his wife is the opposite.
She often asked me this question of, why do I remember this stuff when I can't remember the things I actually need to remember at work, for example?
God, that's so relatable. Right? He says he tells her.
Because you listen to it a lot at a point in time, it sort of really sort of stays ingrained into your memory.
So songs just get really ingrained in our memory because we listen to them a lot?
Yes, but that's just a teeny part of it.
How songs get encoded is the key to understanding why our brains are so good at
remembering them. So today on the show, the neuroscience behind that surprising moment of, wow,
how do I still remember that song? And how songs can stick with us for a long time, even when
other memories start to fade. I'm Ritu Chatejee. And I'm Rasha Arredi. You're listening to Shortwave,
the Daily Science podcast from NPR. Okay, Rasha, so let's get into it. I probably have thousands of
songs stored up in my brain, a collection that's been growing since I was a child. So how is it that I can
remember many of those songs, but I still can't tell you when some of my closest friend's
birthdays are.
So first, let's look at some of the elements of songs that make them easier for our brains to
remember.
Many have rhyme, repetition, rhythm, which are important because...
Your brain is kind of lazy.
Ha!
Meet Kimmy Sugaya.
He's the head of neuroscience at the University of Central Florida, and he co-teaches a class
called Music in the Brain.
He was telling me how our brains love rhyme and rhythm because they help us encode information better.
And the better you encode something, the better you can retrieve it later.
Hmm, as in more reference points for our brains, right?
Yes, exactly.
And isn't this also a result of using melody, not just words, right?
Yep, you're using an auditory stimulus too, so that's just one more way to encode that info.
Got it.
And repetition also plays a role, I'm assuming, in an...
encoding that information because the more you hear something, the more likely it's to stick.
And I wonder, is that why we tend to learn the chorus of a song first because we hear it over and over in a song?
Exactly. And that can apply to the tune too. Typically, in Western music at least, a song has a motif, like a series of notes that plays over and over throughout the song.
So we hear that tune repeating, just like the chorus. As an example, Keith talked about the song Leave the Door Open by Anderson.
and Peck, Bruno Mars, and Silksonic. He even played part of it on his piano.
You know, the first thing you hear is the like, do do do do a simple chunk, right?
It just has a series of notes, which you can kind of group together and we'll repeat throughout
the piece over and over again.
So we hear that repetition within the song, the lyrics and the tune, as well as us
replaying songs we like over and over, so helping out our lazy brains.
Yeah, it's just like one more shortcut.
And to make things even easier for our brains, Keith says we only really need to remember a snippet of a tune.
And our brain can often fill in what comes next.
Wow.
That's what he researches, how our brains use things we learned in the past to complete patterns and songs.
And we can take advantage of the stickiness of songs to help us remember things, right?
I mean, isn't that what we did in school?
when teachers would make up songs or jingles to help us remember what they taught us.
I'm thinking of ABC's often being taught as a song and not a list of 26 letters, right?
Yep, that's exactly right.
Like, I was taught the quadratic formula in the ninth grade when my math teacher sang the formula to the tune of pop goes the weasel.
Ooh.
X equals negative B plus or minus radical.
B squared minus 4A, C all over 2A.
Yeah.
I asked Heath why, after all those years of not using that formula,
I can still sing that annoying song.
He said that we remember things better when we associate them with other things.
You have a melody that you know super well,
and you've sort of attached that and aligned to the quadratic formula.
It stuck with you for as long as you remember the initial melody,
which will probably be forever.
Wow, so again gets back to sort of encoding things better,
and that math formula is just hitching a ride on the tune that you know by heart.
Basically, and since my brain is associating that info, it's encoded even better.
Well, I have to say your math classes were much more musical than mine.
So that's the first leg of this explanation.
Now let's get into what's really going on in your brain when you hear a song.
The first thing that will happen, so the music will hit your eardrum,
and that will cause a cascade of neural activity that goes through your brainstem
into primary auditory cortex.
That's where music gets processed.
Our brain tries to organize what we're hearing
by identifying things like melody or harmony.
And Kimmy told me that the language center of your brain
will also get involved.
Our brain has a very special area
of processing the language or producing the language.
And the music affects to the same part of the brain first.
So then we can recognize or we can understand the music.
That's the part of the brain that processes words when someone speaks to you.
But it also works on the lyrics when you hear a song.
And the part that makes sense of tone and fluctuations in speech
is also processing the melody and beat of a song.
So it's stimulating your brain in all sorts of ways then?
Yes, because listening to music is a really active experience.
Let's say you're reading the lyrics or following sheet music.
The visual processing center of your brain also lights up,
interpreting what you see. And music also activates your motor cortex, which coordinates body movements.
Ah, and that's why we tap our feet or sway to music so easily. Exactly. And the part of the brain
that coordinates movement and balance also joins the party too, you know, making sure you don't
land on your bum or get a little too carried away there. Those are just a few areas of the brain
that are stimulated by music. There are a lot more. And what about the feelings and emotions we get from
listening to songs. Where do those come in? Yeah, well, first, listening to music is a really
rewarding experience, and that's at a chemical level. When we enjoy music, our brain releases dopamine
in the pleasure centers of our brain. Music will activate the sort of deep brain dopaminergic
systems like the basal ganglia, which are sort of codes for rewarding experiences. It activates
when you have a good meal or, you know, when you take a narcotic. Yeah. And, and, you know,
the emotions we feel when listening to music, whether it's happiness or heartbreak, gets processed
in a few different areas of the brain, like the amygdala, which attaches those emotions to our memories.
So it's not just the musical experience, right? But it's also what were you going through when you
listen to that piece of music? What are the different sort of contexts around it, which all can play
into this kind of thing? And then those memories get processed in the hippocampus, which is our brain's
main hub for learning and memory. So all of that info are dancing, singing,
emotions get filed away in different parts of your brain. Which sort of increases the chances
that it's going to be encoded at the sort of high-level hippocampal area. So more reference points
again for the brain. But I'm wondering, Rasha, how does all that activation in our brain
translate into how we remember songs? This part is amazing because so many different parts of our
brain, process music, or memories of music are also stored away in different parts too.
So if you can, you know, remember looking at a piece of sheet music, that memory is coming from
the visual processing center. Or if you can remember a dance, that memory is coming from the
cerebellum that houses your muscle memory. Got it. Got it. It's starting to come together.
Yeah, so Ritu, when you were talking about singing to your toddler.
And those entire songs coming back to me. Yeah, that's also your muscle memory.
kicking in. Your brain can remember how you moved your mouth when you sang. So even if you can't,
you know, fully remember the lyrics, your mouth's muscle memory is going to kick in to help you form
those words. Wow, I would have never in a million years known that my mouth's muscle memory was
somehow involved. The music may be able to connect those bits and piece of the memory you stored
in different places.
That's how the memory can be recalled by the music.
Huh.
So when we hear an old song after a few years,
our brain is able to pull that information
from all types of storage spaces
because we encoded it in so many different ways
with our singing and dancing
and the memories we attach to songs.
Exactly.
There are a lot of bits and pieces
stored up in the brain.
It explains why some people with memory loss
can still remember music.
For example, some folks with Alzheimer's
who played the piano when they were younger
can still play it,
even if they might not remember the names and faces of loved ones anymore.
Scientists think that's because the disease
doesn't have the same effect on the cerebellum
where muscle memory is stored.
So that huge network of songs and memory
across the brain increases the chances
that people can still remember it.
Yeah, and here's the final thing I'll leave with you, Ritu.
We've already mentioned how tightly songs
and emotion are connected.
And according to Kimmy, that's the number one reason we remember songs so well.
And I know that emotions are really important to memory in general.
And songs can make us feel, say, joy or heartbreak.
And those emotions then help us encode songs better in our brains.
Yeah, the auditory cortex is highly connected with the amygdala.
That part we talked about that houses your emotions.
Yeah, yeah.
So when we experience something emotional, the amygdala will see.
signal to another part of the brain to be like, hey, remember this, file it away in long-term memory.
It's incredible. Yeah, and that's why when you hear a song, you can be transported back to the
moment you remember listening to it. So for me, that was sitting in my parents' car, listening
to Arabic music on the drive-to elementary school with my little brother. That's such a lovely
memory. Well, Rasha, thank you for bringing us this episode. Anytime me too. And a huge thanks to
Kimi Seguyen, Keith Doling, and Malie.
to Belgrade for talking with me.
This episode was produced by
Britt Hansen, edited by
Viet Le and Giselle Grayson,
and fact-checked by Burley McCoy.
A very special thanks to John Hamilton
for his help. And that music clip you heard,
that's from Phamra Diab.
I'm Rasha Aridi.
And I'm Ritu Chatterjee.
Thanks for listening to Shortwave from NPR.
