Should I Delete That? - 2022 Round up!

Episode Date: December 26, 2022

Should I Delete That? is now one year old! If you've been with us from the very start, you'll know our first episode was a year ago almost to the day. In what now can be considered annual tradition, Alex and Em are going to give you their round up of the tumultuous year that was 2022: sharing with you their news, cultural and personal highlights!Thank you for being with us and supporting us all along the way, we couldn't do it without our wonderful, ICONIC listeners. Bring on 2023!Follow us on Instagram @shouldideletethatEmail us at [e-mail] & edited by Daisy GrantMusic by Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello and welcome to the Christmas Gooch. Oh, I hope you're nice and snug in there. You told me to be festive before I started recording, and then I was like, hello and welcome to the festive gooch. Hello, welcome to the Peronium. Welcome to the Peron. We are in the taint. Happy Boxing Day.

Full transparency here, guys. I don't want anyone to be too shot, but this. This is not being recorded life. It is not boxing day. We're recording this on the assumption that we've both had nice Christmases. Who's to know? What have you got?

What did you? I mean, I know it's past tense, but what have you got planned for Christmas? I am just spending it with my family. Yeah, just staying at home. And you know what? I probably should admit this because people would be like, it's so weird,

but Dave and I are not spending Christmas together. What? We never had. We never had. I know, I know. I know. Because here's the thing. I hate his mother.

No, definitely not. Very much not. I feel too guilty about not spending it with my mom and dad and my family. And he feels too guilty about not spending it with his mom. And so we just don't deal with it. Because we did have. I mean, this is the first year that we're... No, sorry, this is the second year that we're married for Christmas.

Oh, my God, we got married last year. And we always said, like, when we get married, we'll be together for Christmas. But then I was like, I just... I don't want to say to you, like, come to ours because I feel bad on your mum. And you also know that you aren't going to offer to go to his mom. Absolutely not. No. There's one option here. It is Dave spends it with the light or you spend it apart. I didn't want to put it like that. Yes.

No, I get it. I get it. Eventually there will be a compromise, but right now I can't cope and compromise. It won't be mine. that I say you go home to yours I'll be with I'll just stay right here we spend the rest of the bloody year together do you know what I mean

we spend six 364 days a year together like I can I think I can manage one day sorry I know it's really grinchy but whatever fucking what about you? I will be at my mum's house everybody comes over for Christmas

well Alex's mum is coming to us for Christmas for the first time this year this is our first Christmas married but we did Alex and I have done Christmases I think we've done two Christmases together now because his mum works every other Christmas day

last year she was working on Christmas day and then the year before that was do you remember COVID Christmas where everything was going to be fine and then it wasn't fine so like it was like five days before Christmas and it's like if you're going to go you're going to go now because we're going to be locked down for Christmas

and she's vulnerable my dad also was vulnerable to COVID at the beginning before the jabs and stuff so and they both were so it was just like this is just it was just too much it was just too stressful for everybody to see each other so nobody saw each other yeah so we Alex and I's put the last two Christmases together at my mum's house but without her so that's been sad for her because she's had to do Christmas on her own two years running so um she's coming to us this year and yeah it will be nice and then obviously my dad lives near my mum so that's kind of easy so we'll just be flipping and flopping and see how we go I'm going to be dry Norman

so taking it so I already put I've already put my like live in the sand I was like I am not your fucking designated driver this Christmas family because I did that I did that on bonfire night and I've never regretted anything more it was awful so um after bonfire night I was like Christmas don't even think about it if you're not ready to leave by 10 you're not coming with me wherever yeah oh yeah because of course I mean you can't leave when you want to leave no God no no no I'm there until one in the morning what's watching them all just get like, absolutely not.

Absolutely not. No, I know it's the time for giving, but it's also the time for being fucking selfish when you have to be. Call your taxis, guys. Yeah, exactly. Sort yourself out, you're all adults. Love that. Love that.

It's important time of year to maintain a boundary. Yes, it is. Alex, watch me not stick to that. Watch me just like, fucking exhausted, resenting the shit out of my family because I've said, yes, this is such a me thing to do. I'm like, I say, I'm not going to do. do it. Then I'll feel bad. So I'll be like, oh, it's okay. No, it's fine. And then I'll spend

all night going, guys, it's fine. It's fine. Have fun. Relax. Have a nice time. Have a nice time. And then. And then I hate them all. And then I'm just going to explain. And I'm saying, you're all so fucking selfish. And they'll be like, but you said it was fine. I'll be like, but I didn't mean it. And you should have known that. I can see that. I can see that whole version of events. You quietly see thing. And like winding yourself up a massive fucking treat. And telling them that absolutely, it's fine. It's fine. Easy, easy, have fun, yay! I hate you.

I hate you all. You start with bastards. So I'm actually making, like, making my Alex put that bad, like, don't let me, don't let me do that. Because I'll just ruin Christmas for everyone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Put your foot down, lying in the sand. Two tired. Run me off.

Yeah. Pusted butt. Perfect. Anyway. That was perfect. I think that's the first time you were going to burn. I know, I know. I know.

I couldn't believe it. Well done. Thank you very much. So today's episode is, well, we started the podcast a year ago, almost to the day, a year ago tomorrow, with a 2021 roundup. So we thought we'd do the same again this year, except not 2021 again. And the lot shorter than last time, because we must have spent five hours recording this last time. It was our first ever recording, not in our groove.

and I think slightly baffled by the whole thing so we took a very long time and we did things over and over and over again and poor Daisy but this year I don't know have we hit our stride? No no but the good thing is we can give considerably less fucks

and we also know I think there was a lot of pressure on us last year to really try and like maintain the tone that we wanted for the podcast whereas now we know the people that are here you guys are already on board unlucky. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And they're cool. They're all cool. The listeners are cool and like on our way. Yeah, it's like you pass the vibe check. Totally. That's what the kids are saying. Unless this gets lots of new listeners in which case we'll shit ourselves. But I think we'll be all right. I don't think they'll get. People have got better things to do. Well, we say that, but we did go to number one last year. And I swear the only reason we went to number one is because everyone was so sick

of their families after like four days in the Gooch, three days in the Gooch. So it's like, I will do anything. I would rather bring my own ears off. No, I don't think of. Anyway, shall we get going with the Rundan of the Year? Let's go. Let's kick it up. Take us back to January.

Yes. It's January. It's January. It's January 2022. And you know what happened in January 22 on a personal level for me? We've got a shared word doc here in front of us with news, world news and then M's personal news and Alex's personal news

so I can see M's personal news and I thought that what was written down was what you were going to say which is that I rented a leaf blower rented a leaf blower kiss literally it's so shy as well Because yours is like four lines long. Like your, what happened in January for you so much. I've literally just put like rid of this look.

Yeah, fuck all on my side. Ridiculous. Got good use out of it though. And I didn't even rent it for leave. You did. You did. You got very good use out of it. Honestly, I was, yeah, it was quite special.

Thank you very much. Anything cool on your side? I've put loads on mine, haven't I? I'm going to like barrel through them. Okay, so I announced the book. Huge. And it went to number one, didn't it? On awkward if it didn't, but I'm pretty sure it did. Yeah, you had a very successful start of last year. Number one podcast. Oh my God. Yeah. Oh, but hang on.

It's like a slip and slide all year. Just whoosh, right down. This is exactly, this is like word for word what I've written. I invested in a drum kit that I never got around to actually playing because I couldn't cope with the length of the online lessons. You can't call it an investment. You can't call it an investment. I actually refuse to allow you to call it an investment. Not only did you not make money. But you lost time. I've donated it, you know. I don't think I told you that.

I've donated it to, it went to a homeless charity in, I don't know where actually. I'm not sure. Somewhere just outside of London. Somewhere really far away because you can be tempted again. Knocking on, hello neighbour.

Yeah, exactly. It went to, yeah, it went to a home. So at least it's got a good home now, but bad times. Bad times for me in January. I'm pleased somebody's benefited from that because that was our horrible time of our lives. Yes, somebody had to.

It was the saddest thing I've ever seen. No, I know. Let's move on because I'm a dick. I thought Betty ate a paracetamol, so I took her to the emergency vets, but she hadn't felt guilty because obviously they make her throw up, don't I? Yeah.

Yeah. That was my jam. Pissy Chan. God, I remember that because I told you all the things that all the dogs had eaten my mother over the years and survived. I know, and I wish I'd listened to you

because she hadn't eaten a paracetamol. Like, I just let my mind play tricks from me. And even if she had, she would have been fine. We, Dodger, my king, light of my life, before he died, we used to give a paracetamol every day. And I just want to say that's not why he died. We did that on the vet's advisement. Because he had, he was sore.

So he had a paracetamomom every morning. So, yeah, my January ended in guilt. But that's pretty normal. So, um, that's just a month. That's just a normal month. So news. News. Well...

Real world-life news. Yeah. I mean, it was actually a pretty quiet January, considering how massive the rest of the years be, January was pretty quiet. But something I just wanted to bring up from a pop culture perspective was that Adele cancelled her Vegas residency.

That in and of itself is not the news. But what was the news was, I don't know if you remember the press that surrounded it. So she cancelled. And Pierce Morgan wrote an article, which was shared on Facebook with the caption, is she ever not sobbing? Because Adele cancelled this video, cancelled it via a video where she basically just cried and said to her fans, I'm sorry. Oh, I tell you what it was. She cried and she said the show's not

ready. And I can't put on a show that isn't ready. And she was crying and she said, I'm just so sorry. But with COVID, I think they had staff shortages and she just said the show is not ready. And Pierce Morgan, Adele has morphed into another staggeringly rich, privileged prima donna. Why are men never staggeringly rich. The Daily Mail then said, is Adele music's most unreliable diva, furious American fans say Star has cancelled on her twice? And then the mirror said Adele branded a diva after tearfully cancelling her longed for Las Vegas show. Pricks, a lot of them. But then I had a look. I remember making a post about it at the time and I had a look at men who had cancelled gigs in the last year. There was one about Harry Styles cancelled shows.

He stresses safety must take priority. which is exactly what Adel said, by the way. Lewis Capaldi rescheduled all shows until 2022 to focus on his new album. Mike Skinner cancels the streets 2020 tour due to COVID. Elton John test positive for COVID and is forced to cancel his concert in Dallas. Over the last year, Sean Mendez, since this whole thing, Sean Mendez canceled his gig because he said he did a video or an Instagram post, I think, saying he wanted to prioritize his mental health.

and everyone was like, yay, prioritising mental health. But it was just that, it's just that thing that we've talked so much about this year on the podcast of building women up and up and up and up and up. And then just when she gets to the pedestal, like the very peak of the mountain that we've helped her climb, we just have to throw stones at her until she falls off. And just the glaring discrepancy

between how women and men are treated in the press. And I have to like, like, what does her be? staggeringly rich. I have to do with anything. Literally. Why is that in the headline? Why is that irrelevant at all? And so, like, Pierce Morgan is the ilk of man whose sole ambition in life is to also be staggeringly rich. Like, this, that's the thing of like middle class men. That's what they want to be, is staggeringly. That's the whole point. That's capitalism. And it just teased them up to do it. And the sad thing is, is I can't imagine him, yeah, imagine him writing

the same headline about Harry Stiles. Has he's become this staggeringly rich diva, pop divas. Harry doesn't, in the same way that Pearce Morgan writes about Prince Harry, Harry Styles doesn't conform to like the kind of masculinity that Pierce Morgan respects. Do you know what I mean? So I actually could see him doing it more to Harry Starve. I don't think he would, but I could see him doing that because Harry's like quite effeminate and and androgynous and like woke.

and it's really easy for like the Pierce Morgan to do for the people who don't conform to like traditional pillars of masculinity imagine him doing it to Kanye West even like look at how he interviewed Kanye West

like how he spoke to him and Kanye West was subsequently obviously said some horrifying things where's the fucking opinion piece from Pearce Morgan about that calling him staggeringly whatever no Pierce Morgan is

still milking that very brief relationship he had with Megan Markle, isn't he? Like, that's his like bread and butter now, which is so sad. So sad. It's so sad. Like, give it a rest. Oh my God, please. It's, it's just, it's mortifying for him. It's really embarrassing. But I'm finding this whole year, the, like, the, the, what's happened to the media this year, particularly, I just feel like there's just, there's so much agenda with every paper now. Even the Times, like, I used to like the Times. I used to think they had, like, good shit in there. And, you know, like, writers that I thought were funny and whatever. And even they now are sinking into, like, really mean tabloid journalism. And we'll

get onto it, but like, obviously December, fast forward, which we had that sound effect, to we are now, there's been so much more in the way of like, talk around Harry and Megan, but all the op-ed pieces for the times even, and the Guardian, it's too, well, the Guardian's not so bad, but it's just so mean. It just feels so, like, tabloidy. And every paper just feels like they're just putting out these really mean things, and it's always, always really mean about women, or men who want to talk about their mental health, but mostly women.

But it's weird, because it feels so at odds with the, narrative on social media, doesn't it? Well, yeah, except TikTok's a bit brutal. Yeah, TikTok is brutal. Actually, yeah, you're right, TikTok is brutal. It's because I spend most of my time on Instagram. Yeah, because on Instagram, it's all like, be kind. Yeah, there's a real drive, yeah, I mean, I hate hashtag be kind now. I feel like it's just taking a life of its own and not necessarily a great one, but there is definitely a drive to like consider people's mental health and... So I think that's our Instagram. That's the thing. This is the thing. This is the thing. This is a thing. And this is something I've been thinking about and messaging you about

recently, like sharing things with you. Even people that are semi in this world, like they're sort of half in this our kind of world. And they still say a lot of brutal things about women. Yeah. And I've sent a few of them to you recently, haven't I, and been like, I'm stunned to see it. I'm really stunned to see it. And I've heard some people also who are completely not in this world at all they don't they don't have like public instagram accounts um and they do have they do say these really savage things that i you would have used i used to say as well but i think i'm so far removed from that now and i and i see so clearly the damage in that now that it really like it catches my breath like to hear it and like that sounds pretty like so but it is it's it

feels visceral like i feel my heart sink when i hear it because i'm like oh my god like we've made a lot of progress in that space and me personally i know i have made so much progress in that space and like thank god i have because the way that i used to think about particularly other women was just horrible but people still have that people still feel like that and that scares me okay february well obviously in world news russia invaded ukraine which I said that to Alex this morning I cannot believe that was this year that feels so long ago

it does doesn't it yeah and absolutely terrifying and still terrifying now but it was really terrifying then wasn't it yeah because it was just like I remember just being like oh my god are we all going to war like what does this mean

and we felt quite helpless didn't we I mean it was amazing to see kind of the response I guess from a lot you know a lot of British people were opening their doors to Ukraine but then of course there was a massive conversation around why we're being so welcoming to Ukrainian refugees when you know

this conflict all over the world that arguably have more to do with Britain and we're not helping and that's a whole thing but from a very from one one perspective it was quite lovely to see people opening their hearts definitely to see a lot of people unite it was really nice yeah I guess we don't want to necessarily delve too much into it because I mean everyone knows like a lot of the facts and obviously we don't have like opinions to share on it other than it being utterly horrifying. And obviously it's ongoing as well. And it's ongoing.

This is the thing. There's no resolution as of yet. But that was the main, definitely the main news of February. Something else I wanted to touch on in the world of pop culture. So Emma Thompson had a new film out and she was doing press for it and the film was called

I think Good Look to you Leo and she had a naked scene in the film and during her press tour she really brought body image to the forefront of the conversation of the mainstream in a way that I had never seen an actress do before. And I think there's a lot of pressure in Hollywood and with celebrities to look a certain way, but also keep the means to looking a certain way, a secret,

and make it look effortless and make it look like there are no body image issues at play and like it's just I'm naturally thin and that's that like that's always been the conversation and really no one's ever delved into it further than that or really being transparent with it not their fault it's just kind of like the culture of you know celebrity in Hollywood but emma thompson really went into it and it was so refreshing and she was really honest with it it wasn't like oh we should all love our bodies it wasn't like a you know just a lot of positivity and fluff yeah that might not have actually resonated, but she was honest about not liking her body, but put it, you know, lay that, lay that problem at the feet of society. And there's a clip actually that I'd like to play

this clip, which I thought was really powerful. I'm not used to seeing untreated bodies on the screen. We're only used to seeing bodies that have, you know, been trained. I can't stand in front of a mirror like that. If I stand in front of a mirror, I'm always sort of, I'll pull something in, I'll turn to the side. I'll do something. I can't just stand there. Why would I do that? It's horrifying. But that's the problem, isn't it, that we've been, not you, but certainly women have been brainwashed all our lives to hate our bodies.

That's the fact of it. And everything that surrounds us reminds us how imperfect we are and everything is wrong with us. Everything is wrong. And you need to look like this. So you try standing in front of a mirror. Take your clothes on and don't move. Don't go.

Just don't move. Just accept it and don't judge it. It's the hardest thing I've ever had to do. So, you know, I really, I did something I've never done as an actor. Yeah, so she was talking about standing in front of the mirror for this naked scene and how difficult it was and the difficulty is because of this societal and cultural problem that we have. um so i thought that was really brilliant that she talked about that and and opened up that conversation i also think it's so cool that she is an older woman speaking like that because

i think there are a lot of older women that are quite judgmental of the like the work that you and i would do on instagram for example and just oh it's just silly narcissist and a silly vane and blah blah and it's a generation of women that just don't like other women that much and that's just call a spade a spade like well they don't call themselves spades they they're like no, no, no, we're just a different brand of feminism. We're not, whatever, you're dicks. But they don't, there is a, there is a generation of women that, that kind of undermine what a lot of the younger generation

are trying to do in terms of body confidence, body positivity, fat, acceptance, and that sort of thing. And then there's a lot of older women as well who, on the complete other side, are just like, God, I wish I'd had this. Like, I'm in my 40s, I'm in my 50s, I'm in my 60s, in my 70s and I still feel like this and I wish that somebody had done this for me and you know spoken up for me so I'm not saying all older women are in the first women's camp but um it's just so nice to have like I always feel sad for these older women who say that

because it's like but it's not done like your life isn't done you know like and allowing people to find body confidence or body acceptance or whatever in older older ages it's It's just like, so obvious, but also just so cool. Do you know what I mean? So cool. That's so true. Because I sent that clip to my mum as well and she was just like gobsmacked, astounded because she's never heard anything like that.

She's heard it, you're right, from our generation. But we're so much, were that bit further removed, obviously, from her. And so it's harder to relate and it's harder for that to resonate. And I think as well, it's harder to, it's harder to listen and accept. it because as well like imagine how uncomfortable that is or like the dissonance in realizing that your entire life like what you've what you've strived for your entire life has been something that doesn't like now people are saying it doesn't actually matter like you don't have to be thin like that's a lot to take in and that's a lot to like process mentally so it's easier to just

not process it and not try to understand it so to hear someone I think of their generation saying it's probably quite eye-opening. And we're also, I'd imagine actually having just been quite rude about the women who undermine what we do, I actually can understand why they do because it might be quite jarring if you've had children or if you're older. Like, you know, particularly for someone like me, if I'm, before I got pregnant, obviously, you know, happily existing in my body and trying to accept my flaws, my flaws might be perceived very differently by somebody who is older and by society's standards further away from the beauty ideal,

which is obviously younger, which is one of the main things, I think. So maybe it is quite jarring if you just see younger people being like, love your body and then you're sitting there in a body that society, no one's told you to love and nobody's told society. that it should be like. So it must be really jarring. So to have an Emma Watson, to have Emma Thompson who's had children,

who is older, you know, who is kind of like just, she's of their age where society really does just wash a woman away. We don't need to see you anymore. We can hear from you. Like we are quite good at hearing from older women now, but we really don't like to see them.

Yeah. Like, you know, we want them in like a million scarves. Why are they always cast to wear like, so many shawls, drapy dresses with another layer and another layer and then a shawl and then another shawl. Do you know what I mean? Right. Like, and if we do see older women, like, if we, you know, I mean, I'm thinking of like women in their 50s that we see. They look like J-Lo or they look like Jennifer Aniston, which is great, good on them, you know, cool. Or Nicole Kidman, you know, all of these women are very thin and they're toned and everyone remarks on how young they

look for their age. Yeah. And how we could look that good too. Yeah, whereas it will be cool to just see people who look, I don't know, like how women look in their 50s. Like, I don't know. But Emma Thompson is fucking brilliant. And I am, I don't believe in manifesting necessarily, but I am manifesting this and putting it out into the universe that Emma Thompson will come on our podcast one day because I think she would be one of our dream guests. She was like the dream guest. Also, you don't be a day. Just manifest it.

Just believe in it. Just do this for us. I know. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Really sad interlude before we head into March or even our personal news. I saw it, oh, I don't know why I'm going to tell you this. I saw a video this morning on TikTok because I started watching TikTok videos because I wanted to be more like you. And it was a sign of like the least lovable star signs.

Oh my God. Was I last? You were second last. Oh no. What was the last? Aquarius. Oh my God, that's Dave. Yes.

Oh my God, that's Dave. It's you and James. It's you and Dave. It's me and Dave. Oh my God. I know. It was like the two least lovable. I was like, well, at least they found each other.

Wait, so what's the most lovable? Pisces. And then next up was Libra, which is Jenny, manager Jenny. And then next up was me. See, this is, TikTok, TikTok is so clever because, so you go, you barely go on it. Is that right? Yeah, you don't go on it much. Okay, so when you do go on it, you get served this video about astrology, about

Star signs, right? Yeah, they probably see my tattoo. They can sense it. They presume that you believe in star signs, right? And they were right. And I only get, and I've never, ever looked for star signs astrology, like anything like that. They're not going to be sending it to a Virgo. Also, why would they want to tell you that you're unlovable?

Yeah. I only get the ones that are like why star signs are rubbish. Isn't that weird? And I've never Googled it. I've never searched for it. Isn't that weird? Yeah. It's not weird.

It's terrifying. It's analyzing. It's scary. Yeah, it's really scary. Yeah. But also, they are wrong. They are wrong. Because they serve me toddler videos all the time. You like toddlers. They serve me baby and toddler videos.

Yeah, you do. Yes, you do. You have that with your nephew all the time. You're always talking about him. Oh, I've got to go to nursery. Oh, I've got to do this. I've got to help Jen. Yeah. I mean, I love my, I love my nephew. But I don't like toddlers in general. I'm not like, oh, what he likes and dislikes. Oh, I like toddlers. Like, that's fucking weird. I don't like toddlers. I like my nephew. No, I think it can hear you saying like, oh, I've got to do this. I've got to do this. I'm doing this baby related thing.

Oh, and I probably like Google stuff as well for my sister. Yeah, and also I know this. I know this. So I watched a video on TikTok about how the internet works. And it's not technically that they're listening to us. They could do. They've got the capability, obviously, but it's actually not very effective. But what's more effective is they work out who you spend the most time with.

So when I go back to my mum's house, for example, I am more likely to be advertised, her toothpaste brand, for example, because I would go back to her house. They might assume that I would be using her toothpaste when I was there, but they would sync up our Google search. So they would show me the sort of things that she has in her house than in her life. So that if I were to come home again, I'd be like, oh, like, mum's got that at her house. I think I want one to, etc. That freaks me out. That's really scary. It does not bother me at all. It makes my life so much easier. well there you go that's why then that's because i'm with jen all the time exactly and you'll be with

the nephew the nephew the nephew with your nephew the nephew yeah i'm being advertised to a lot of baby stuff but again it's convenient because i don't know what i need i don't know how to have a baby the more stuff that pops up telling me what to do the better um personal news from february we've talked for so fucking long i spent the whole month in bed because i got covid do you remember i was supposed to have an operation on my face in mid-February and then I got COVID three days before I was supposed to have, or five days before I was supposed to have the operation and obviously I couldn't have the operation anymore. So I was in bed with COVID which I had for the first time, even though I'd had both my jabs and I subsequently had a booster, I was so ill. And then I literally

the hospital were amazing. They were like, no, you can have your surgery, but you can't have general anaesthetic after you've had COVID for like seven weeks, I think it was, unless it's like, you know, super emergency, because it's just not great because you might be. die or something, I don't know. Anyway, um, so then they were like, we'll do it under local. So I stayed in bed. I had COVID for the full time. I think it was like two weeks you had to stay in bed. I can't remember how it was. And I literally said in my room because I was like, if Alex gets COVID, he can't take me to the hospital. I can't have this operation to have the messel taken out my face because the year before I had a broken jaw and then they put loads of

metal in my face to fix it. And then one of the screws came loose. So I had to have it removed because it was so painful. Anyway, um, yes, then I got out of bed for a day, went to Sarah's birthday dinner, like literally went one day out of bed, that was on Sunday, went to Sarah's birthday, and then on Monday morning, I went into the hospital and had my face operated on under local anaesthetic. Horrifying ordeal, wouldn't recommend it. And then I had to get straight back into bed again to recover from that. So February was a big month for me and my bedroom. It was bleak. Yes, it was very sad. It was bleak. It was like tangled. I was just, except without, I was, it was like tangled, but was shit hair. I don't know what tangled is. Are you kidding?

No. The film? No, I've never seen it. Oh, what? I know Jen's in the room. Can you just make sure that she makes you watch it? She's shaking her head at me. Oh, she's a mother.

Is it good? Yes. Jen's going, yes. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah, she's seen it. Oh, good. Yeah. Oh, my God, it's amazing.

Okay, well, there you go. Yeah, basically, that was me in February, except again, with shit hair. Anyway, anything, did you do anything more interesting on the outside? So I have got written down. I don't know why I've gone so. intricate with this. Yours is just like one thing and mine's like this. M got Benita Norris on the podcast as a surprise. Epic surprise. Fucking love that.

That was sick. I also got COVID fun. You did get COVID straight after me as well so we didn't see each other for ages. And the weird thing is I didn't even get it off you. No. Even though we'd been in the studio together all day and you'd been so ill. Yeah and then I literally got better and then when I had my operation that's when you got COVID because then we found Geo track. I forgot about Geo Getter. We just got the Geo Getter. Should we play again at Christmas? Yes.

Yes. This online game where it literally like, it drops you, it drops you like a pin into anywhere in the world on Google Earth and you then have to work out where you are and you can do it as a team. And so fun, we discovered it and then we like played it obsessively for like five days and then completely forgot that it existed. I literally, I looked at it. I was like, what is Geogetter? I was like, oh my God, that was such a fun.

for you days. God, I remember one night, like Alex went out and I, I played in the bath. I was so upset. I couldn't let you play on your own that I took my laptop up into the bath so that I could keep playing. Yeah, Dave was on a stag too. I had COVID, you had jaw. We just played. We just played. We just played hours. It's like in teenagers playing the sins. It's so tragic. It was so fun. How did we just forget about that? I completely forgot about that. Okay, yeah, like, we can totally get that back up again. March!

Yes, March, we're moving on. Will Smith slapped Chris Rock at the Oscars. Yes. I guess I'm not even on a poster the other day, and I was just like, oh, we're over it. Good point. Do you know what? I'm going to type in Will Smith and see what's his latest news.

Probably that he's been paid between 20 and 30 million to appear in a new film. Yeah. Yeah, it's all about his new film emancipation. There you go. And Will Smith might win an Oscar. for emancipation despite Chris Rockslap. I don't know if that's true or not, but that's what the article, the headline is.

Well, he won an Oscar last year, didn't he? This year, that was the bummer. Like, he won an Oscar for playing, you won... King Richard. King Richard. He was so good in that. So good. Get your wife's name.

No, my wife's name. Damn it. Out your fucking mouth. I watched it back. I was like, that was so dramatic. I didn't understand until near the end of that day that it was, real. I thought it was a stunt, a, um, a, um, a bit, a, uh, spoo. Whatever you call it.

Stunt. I thought it was a stunt. I was like, I just assumed it was because I was like, that cannot be real in no way. But like, that's going to be one of the biggest, like, celebrity moments in history. Like, that was just wild. Wild. Wild. He's laughing. He literally just whacked him on the stage. Get my wife's name. Like, literally. On stage, at the Oscars. Like, tell me a bigger, a bigger celebrity stage. Literally. Mad.

Bunker. People's talk more about Canyo taking Taylor's VMA than they do about Chris, about the Will and Chris. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. What I didn't like was the, didn't one of his kids, Will Smith's kids afterwards, like double down on it as well and was like,

yeah, that's what you get when you mess with us or something like that. Yeah, I think so. Not great. Not great. Gringe. That wasn't great. I felt really sorry for Jade. I think we talked about at the time.

Like his wife, obviously, because it's like she's the butt of the joke and then she gets humiliated by her husband. Like that should have been for her to respond to. And like, yeah, like, it's more embarrassing that he's made up a big thing, in my opinion. But whatever, I don't know. I don't know if I'd ever forgive Dave if he did that.

If he went up on the stage to slap somebody. I mean, I can't see Dave ever doing that. He's my wife's name. How of your mouth! Imagine it. I think he'd just feel like, oh, fair, fair folks. So, personal news. Why am I so shit?

I massively wiped out. I literally have written, lull. I massively wiped out on a run. Is that in March? That cannot be a March. I tripped. And I showed you the scarf for it, which I still have on my shoulder.

I can't believe that's March. I know. I went for my first little run after my stupid little operation. And I was like, She was back in the game, bitches, going from Ron, and I was listening to the Amy Stud song, so you think you got it all worked out, you got your hat pants on, you got your ass right out here, and I was like, whew! And then, uh, tripped over a loose, a loose paving stone, and absolutely ate shit.

Uh, and yeah, I, I really did as well. And you never got the footage, which was sad. No, I did email. I emailed Sainsbury's, and I emailed the council, um, because I fell outside of graveyard and next to a zebra crossing, so there was quite a lot of CCTV. And I asked for the footage and they said no unless i'd been involved in a road traffic accident and this was an insurance case and then i was like hmm i could like and i thought it's not worth it so i didn't it's not worth it it's not worth it i mean it would have been cool to see but you know it would have been fucking iconic it would have been so good so good the best thing that came out of that was so many people started dm me c tv footage of their own falls that was fantastic that was

the best that was your best content ever ever She sent me a CCTV video of herself falling down the stairs, and it was literally the best thing I've ever watched. You have never shone brighter than that week. No. From the ashes. You have, I'm just kidding. I don't think I have.

Also, during that week, the gusset and my pants snapped. That's what I was going to say, something you've missed out. I know. Well, I have my very bruised knees, and you and I went to a Mac event, and I didn't know why I decided to take my very, I didn't wear tights or anything, like some kind of fucking animal. I was, what am I? like why was I know with my scabby knees grow up like what was wrong with me

which is this Mac event with my fucking scabby knees absolutely rank and then on my way home from this fancy event that we'd been to with Mac the gosset of my knickers snat and I had to go home with like no pants on but also like a belt and like a hanging like a tail like a little tail like a little tail out of the bottom of my Yes, because I wasn't wearing tights. So it was literally just like chaos under there. That's never happened to me. I'm quite sad.

I almost want to buy the knickers that are famous to do it, that famously do snap. Yeah, the lacy scallop ones, don't get it. I don't know if I said scallop, right, or scallop. Anyway, it's happened to everyone. Yeah. It's happened to another pair out. I pulled on the white version of the black ones that I've got.

Yeah. Really? Yeah. It might just didn't mind juicy cheeks, but we talked to it at the time happened to Sasha Polari on television she went on the Lorraine she went on Lorraine oh wow wow yeah so you're living on the edge and you know I've got the third set out there I've got the third pair that came in that set hanging by a fucking thread and sometimes I wear them just for the thrill I want to be with you the next time that it happens I don't know why if anything is going

to finish those off it will be my pregnancy so it will be the bump yeah yeah Your own March? My march. House of condoms. House of condoms. No, it was cool. I got to speak at House of Commons. And the morning that I did it, we had our live show with, we were interviewing Brianie Gordon and Candice Brathway on stage with Georgia Astor for the live show.

And I had to do it on Zoom beforehand, the House of Commons interview. And just as we were about to go on stage, I was like, oh, I'm just going to put up that. I was at the House of Commons. And Commons, also corrected to condoms. And I put the House of Commons. which gave us a lot of lulls. And we did the Georgia Asda live show, which was great, wasn't it? And we, like, learned that actually we could maybe do it.

It gave us a bit of confidence to do what we've just, what we just did, our independent live show. God, yeah. That was really fun. We tried to get Rebel Wilson on the podcast. Oh, yeah. We came at her from all angles, Instagram, manager, multiple people emailing her, her agency. and we got one response that was unfortunately this is a pass and that was it that was it we loved that like thank you yeah okay yeah do not mince your words okay thank you

Jesus God that was brutal crushing it's sad it's been very character this year's been very character building it has hasn't it yeah I love the meme that's like I've had like I'm done with character building now or something like yeah literally like yeah we going to do with just someone saying, yes. Developed enough. I know. Emma Thompson, come on. Manifest.

Manifest. April. April. It wasn't that bigger bump, if we're honest. No. Rihanna unveiled her boomp. Yes, her baby bump and then like paved the way for just a new era of pregnancy fashion and pregnancy dressing and like embracing the bump.

And actually that's been my favorite content of yours this year. you in your low-rise jeans and your bump in that video. So good. So good. I need to do it again, but it's hard. I just feel like Rihanna has changed the way that we see pregnant people, pregnant women. So cool. And it's so cool.

The only issue is, from a practical standpoint, like, she looks so cool, but I've found... Well, it does look cold. Actually, that's the least of your worries, because being pregnant is just making. you warm all the time or freezing cold I found there was no happy medium I'm either sweating

or shaking violently but more so than that it's like it's finding stuff that fits like when she was wearing low-rise jeans I guess I was wearing low-rise shoes

but they weren't done up which therefore makes them completely impractical like I can't like I'm a normal person I can't get on the tube with undone jeans and a crop top

like I can't do it so although it was very cool in that like she's run a marathon over there she's done it so that we can like learn to walk over here do you know what I mean crawl yeah I think she's done it in a way that's going to mean that like people who might not have worn a bikini while they were pregnant for example yeah could

yeah because I remember thinking before I got pregnant I used to be like oh god pregnancy's really gross and to be honest I kind of maintain that in like when I look at my stomach and it's like protruding out I'm like whoa like and I mean like protruding because like you can see her feet and stuff I'm like whoa

um alien yeah yeah that's crazy I don't think I would have necessarily been comfortable to like wear a bikini for example not that I'm doing that now because it's freezing and I'm not going anywhere but what I'm saying is post Rihanna world

it's changed my view of pregnant of like sexiness sexiness this is the thing that is so the thing because like I feel like we only really saw baby like naked bear baby bumps in like very stylised maternity shoots which are also really cool but seeing her just

being like fuck it like I'm just going to go about my life I'm just going to go to events like with my bump out I was like you just look amazing I just love her yeah I absolutely love it so much and a lot of people have kind of followed on from her yeah personal news we went on my Hindu so fun we went on the party bus we went out to Pop World in Bristol and we met some of our listeners and probably lost them forever. Such a fun night. Such a fun night. Pop World in Bristol.

I love you. Oh, that feels like a very long time ago, isn't it? What a night. What a fucking night. We drank so much Jager. So much, so many weird sugary shots. So much prosciko. Yeah, we just did so many shots.

A lot, a lot. That is so far away from the human that I am today. Submarine. That's sad, isn't it? Yeah. Oh my God, it was so fun. It was really fun. Same again next year?

Same again, please. Bring the baby along. She'll love it. Yeah, we need someone to get married. Let's marry, let's get the kid. Let's get this lockdown. I know, I know. I'll find her a suitable partner.

Yeah. I'll organise something. Maybe someone listening, like, can we just come on your hand do? Yeah, well, that seems better than me organizing a wedding for my child. You're currently unborn child. still in the womb. To have them in the next four or five months. Not yet zero.

Still minus. Married. Okay. My personal, I've just got written down. Dave shat himself on a plane and sicked. And then sicked in the taxi. Went to New York for this like lovely little get like romantic getaway. Not getaway.

He was working. But still, we were supposed to. spend some time together and he spent the whole time in the hotel room and I was just on my own and he was just like shitting and sicking himself so that was fun um I remember that we did an episode and it was like he's just like in the corner of the room shaking yeah it was like she was doing it in the room with a corpse it was just like I could just see it's just like lifeless body in the background I was like it's a real fucking buzzkill but like I was like paying for like only fans content or whatever

I was like, yeah, like you were my can girl and it's like, could you just get your dead husband out of the back of the shop, please? Bleakest only fans content ever. I'm not getting the desired effect. Get your dead husband out of the shot. It's not good for the brand, is it? We can't use a social asset,

just like a yellow dave in the background, empty. Oh, brilliant. Even more more rose than normal. Oh dear. May. It's going to be May. Personally, I got married. You got married. Yeah, this is a big month.

It's been a big year for me. I've ticked every single, like, young woman's aspirational list. Yes, you have. You have. Thank you very much. I rented a leaf blower and got married. What else could you want? It feels like so long ago, but also like it shouldn't be that

long ago it's what a day what a day such a good day such a good day yeah loved it you didn't embarrass herself at all yeah no i didn't i didn't embarrass myself well i introduced myself to ashley's husband tommy as tommy still high i'm tommy uh yeah that i didn't enjoy that um and i ate a sausage thinking it was a vegan sausage so that was fun but apart from that i was like like, I was like, Dave, this is, these are, I need to find out what brand these are because it's, uh, these are amazing. It tastes like real sausages. Dave was like, yeah, these are definitely real sausages. And I was like, that'll be it. I did not get enough of the canapes at my wedding. And I was so excited for them. Like,

when we did the food tasting, like obviously me and Al don't eat meat. So I needed a wedding that I could like go to town on. Like I wanted to be able to eat like, you know, vegan, basically really good vegan food. And I don't know what it is. Caterweight. don't offer the bride the canapes. No, they don't. They won't do, will they? Maybe they assumed that the dress was too tight a situation. No, they honestly, they avoided me like the plague. Very good on drinks.

Yeah, okay, that's good. That's good. Yes, super thorough on drinks, but not enough food. I still think about that lasagna that I ate at your wedding. The caterers are catering. They're called Spook and they're in Battersea. They don't have a restaurant. but I am thinking about telling them that I'm planning another event

just so that we could go for food Well I'm actually looking to see if they do like any kind of delivery or something Because we put on a podcast party for the two of us So we can't we? Yeah And just get an absolute shit ton And obviously like we do speeches and stuff

People kept trying to talk to me Because it was like my wedding And I was like just leave me to the lasagna And I'll be back in a minute What was it? It was spinach and like And mushroom and truffle The spinach mushroom and kale There's spinach mushroom and kale.

Chuffle and pineapple and pine nut. Yeah, like a lasagna. Fuck, it was good. It was so good. I know. And how good was the wedding cake as well? They also made the wedding cake. White chocolate and it was gluten because I couldn't eat gluten at the time.

White chocolate, vegan gluten fruit. I don't know if I hate the wedding cake actually. I still got the bottom layer in the freezer. And they say that it's tradition to eat the bottom layer. Either are your kids christening or on your first wedding anniversary. I think it's a kid's christening. so yes well in that case plate your cards right come to the christening and you'll get some of the cake nice nice yeah yeah i'd done that as well i'd frozen some of our wedding cake and they threw it away

how bad's that when we moved how bad's that i know i know can't really yeah i can't get mad about it because i just don't have capacity you definitely can to get wound up about it now i'll get mad about it i'm going to text him like what the fuck was that i know how bad yeah what the fuck that's worse in the outbank He was like, sorry, I didn't know the tradition. I just thought you just had enough of it. Frick, anyway. Prick. I don't know what you see in that guy. See, that's why they're the least lovable.

I know. See? There you go. See? See? How can you not believe in style signs? I've brought you cold, hard facts, and you've just bracked it up with evidence. That's a bad thing he's done. I know. I know. Okay. I'm preferring to just, like, run through mine, you know, rather than talk about them. So, like London, collection, law.

launched. That was really cool, really exciting. And M was one of our models. And it was a stunning shoot. You know that bitch is? I was a model. You were a model. Uh, such a good shoot. Um, I don't know why I've written, I've written the weirdest things down. Like, I went to Tiger Tiger and Lester Square at the age of 33. I thought that was like, I don't know why I thought that was memorable. I recorded the audio book for my book and had a panic attack because I just kept thinking about... Went to Tiger Tiger in Lester Square at the age of 33. That was a horror. entry. It's so boring. What's Tiger Tiger? Why? Why have you written it? Are you joking? What's Tiger Tiger? It's like, it's like, are you joking? No. What is it? Why do, why do you put this here? It's like a nightclub you go to when you're 18, basically, or like 17, 16, 17, like trying to get into places.

I had a full on night out in Tiger Tiger at the age of 33. I wasn't alone, thank very much. So was. And I I don't know. I just thought, I don't know. I was just, that was, look, it was memorable in my year. Okay? Thank you. Yeah, recorded the audio book, had a panic attack because the breathing. Oh my God, it was so intense, so intense. Locked in this room for three days, just trying to think about not breathing. So obviously all I think about is breathing.

Anxiety was very high, not fun. But also quite cool. I'm glad I did it. So, yeah, that was May. Also in May was the verdict of the Amber Heard and Johnny Duck trial. How long did it last for? It lasted for ages. It felt, or it felt like anyway, on social media.

It started in April and finished in June. He first sued her in 2018, so it's been going on for years. Okay. But then, yeah, started April, the 11th, 2020, and finished on June the first 2022. So it went on for a couple of months. And they were probably the worst months that I've spent on social media this year. just about to say the same thing. I really, I hated it. I hated it. I hated it. People seem to relish in just absolutely butchering this woman. Annihating her. Like I, I actually, I keep being like,

oh, maybe I'm just going to tip to around it. I'm not going to. They're obviously very, it's obviously a very toxic relationship and a very toxic situation and they're both obviously guilty of various things. But just because he won, it does not mean that he is not guilty of some of the things that were like proven the texts that were read out like some of it was so rank but more distressing than the actual facts was just the rhetoric that surrounded her and the women that were like just so delighted to see her like hurt or fail or fall or like it was just so intense wasn't it but I think the thing that may and yeah okay that and also the fact that he became a hero.

Yeah. He literally became a hero. And it's like you might think that he's the least guilty of the two. You might think that he's the least guilty of the two. And you might even think that he's the victim in this situation. But if you actually kept up with everything that had happened in that trial, there is no way that you could say he was a hero. Yet he came out of it, a total hero, a global hero.

People were saying, you know, like, oh, we love, and I remember seeing it. Like, I was on my honeymoon, actually, and I remember seeing people's, like, my close, close friend's story, because no one was going to say it on Instagram, being like, oh, we love a king. Like, look at our king. And I was like, the fuck. Like, what in the pink girl is this? Like, yeah, it, because some of those texts, again, no matter what she did, that is not king-like behavior, although it actually is king-like behavior in terms of the fact. but, like, historically, kings are awful. Like, no king is a good thing.

King, Henry the 8th. Bad guy. Bad vice. But by the modern definition of king, that's not it. In the Harry-style king era, Johnny Depp does not deserve the crown. Shocking, honestly. Shocking.

It was just so depressing, wasn't it? That's the word. It was just, it was really depressing, yeah. Because Amber Heard probably wasn't going to see that and whatever, but other women who experienced domestic violence, which the statistics in the UK are so, staggeringly high and obviously we've worked with refuge this year a couple of times that we've interviewed um well we interviewed the amazing Natasha who's a

domestic abuse survivor and it's like something that both are and I really passionate about and it's work that well yeah it's just it's the people that see the people that see what you're saying or people what everybody was saying about Amber Heard isn't Amber Heard it's other women who are experiencing domestic violence and who feel that they won't be believed or or who feel like if their partner is successful or if he is wealthy or if he is good looking or if he is good at acting around other people

that he, that no one will believe her. And we still ask women, why didn't you say anything? Yeah, and why did you stay? And why did you stay? Yeah. Like, why didn't you just tell someone? Like, why didn't you call the fleet? Like, why do you think?

Look at it here. It's hardly like a shining example. Like, what terrible precedent? Yeah, it's, yeah. It's not as black and why. is saying like you know they're both innocent but but a woman doesn't have to be a virginal white no perfect woman in order to be believed as a victim like we don't have to have a perfect victim we can have an imperfect victim we can have a victim who is also guilty in her own way yeah she

still has to be given the respect and support that she deserves as a victim so yeah that whole thing was just fucking rank i hated i hated social media it was a shit show it was awful yeah that's when i stopped using TikTok, to be honest. And I've had to stop again with the anti-Megamark or something. I'm like, why have you put me on these pages? I don't want to see fucking people just absolutely destroying

vulnerable women. But that's what the algorithm keeps showing me, which is annoying. I think it's because those videos are so popular. That's what I think. I just think those videos perform really well and people like them. People are quick to like them,

quick to comment, and the algorithm knows us what people are. enjoying seeing and that's it that in and of itself is is like not good information like it's not a good indication of like where we are but yeah no terrifying anyway well also huge ticot news in june leon pain went super viral yeah and that was another really weird time to be online because yeah he went on the logan paul podcast yeah people were so cruel to him Yeah, so basically, I mean, he did a,

Liam Payne did an interview with Logan Paul and he basically said, like, you will have seen it because all these clips went viral of him saying, like, yeah, like one direction was built around me. Simon Cowell said it was all built around me and then like, and then he's, you know, then I was that clip of him saying that one of the band members put, you know, said something and he said, if you talk to me again,

I'm going to, what did you say? I'll make sure you, you know, take your hands off me or you'll never use them again. That's it, yeah. Um, but what I thought was really tough was that in the month before, he'd done an interview with Stephen Bartlett where he basically had said that he was sober because he wasn't drinking at the time because like he had formed quite an unhealthy relationship with alcohol, particularly during the time in the band, because like when they'd come off stage, you know, like they could,

they were just so famous that they couldn't, you know, like go and just do anything normal. So they'd always be locked in their hotel rooms. And he said, well, do you do if you're locked in your hotel room, you just drink? You know, because it was like, we were kids and it was just fun or whatever. So he was kind of vulnerable. And then a month later, when he was on the Logan Paul podcast, he was drinking loads of whiskey. And I just think, like, I don't know who's looking after him. I would have felt, I mean, I think Logan Paul's a prick anyway.

But, like, it just really felt, like, quite exploitative of, like, of this guy's vulnerability. And then just to go so, and then people come after us, be kind. like God forbid that this had played because that could have played out a very different way he's clearly in a vulnerable position and I'm really pleased it's okay and he's made it to the end of the year but like I wouldn't have been surprised

of something terrible that happened at the time but this is a thing then those same TikTok accounts that like put together like collated all of this like hilarious things that he said in this interview are now releasing you know putting out videos that of you know that contain pictures of him now

where he looks quite thin and frail and saying like, Liam looks really bad, Liam looks really sad. And I'm like, well, yeah, obviously he don't. Yes, okay. And you're wondering why? Yeah. You just, you can't like get away with it. It's not even getting away with anything now, but like everything is scrutinized to like the, just the endth degree now.

It's really horrible and. Yeah, so easy to go viral. Yeah, I feel sorry for people like in the public eye. I do. I do. It's just a terrifying thing. like, you know, one TikTok, that's the thing that scares me about TikTok because it's like there is very, very little humanity. no no yeah it's terrible yeah it's like it's real people that you're playing with and you know it's one thing for leon pain like you know in the such unique situation that he's in but clips can go viral at the same rate and you know like you know somebody who's got absolutely zero tools can be plucked from obscurity and put on that exact same platform and torn apart in exactly the same way and it's just like people aren't going to survive this and if they do they're not going to survive it with their mental health intact and actually you're right like liam pain

doesn't look well now at all bless him and everybody's like oh hope he's all right and it's like well he might be doing a bit better if you didn't make him like the fucking butt of a joke for two months yeah it's hard to survive a global mocking yeah when you're clearly vulnerable and come out of that unscathed yeah but but we had some good news in June yeah your book came out oh no I was gonna say you were pregnant you found out you're pregnant but also your book came out Yeah, I really felt like we've dragged this one on, this, this on pregnancy. I gave birth to a book and you found out that you were going to give birth to a baby. Yeah, I think I'd rather give birth to a human than a book, to be honest.

Imagine how spiky a book would be coming out. Oh, gosh. Got it. And you have a hard back as well. Yeah, you found out you were pregnant and told me that very same day, which I love. I know, literally, you found out before, like, literally, you found out of my mom. You found out before anyone. You literally found that at the same speed as Alex.

My Alex. It was funny. But very exciting. I can't believe that. It was June. I cannot believe that. Oh my God. So yeah, but came out.

That woman called the police on me in the cafe, which was honestly terrifying. What is that June? Fucking her. Yeah. Moved into a new place with wooden floors and Betty literally shot herself. Bless her. She's much better now, but she still doesn't like them.

So our place is literally like, it's like we're playing the floor is lava constantly with just like bits of rug and carpet and she's better and like she'll but like she won't jump off things onto wooden floor she'll only jump off things onto rug or carpet and yeah so we've just got bits of carpet everywhere but she's obviously she's fine she's fine now um yeah that was it really

yeah june was fun june was nice yeah june was july july july my mental health got quite bad in july Oh, that's funny, so did mine. Look at that. Would you look at that? Would you look at that? And mine stayed bad until sort of end of September, I'd say. Anyway, cheery.

Sad time. Yeah, you also did this week. I mean, you had a lot with your antidepressants in July. I think it came, yeah, came to a head. Came to a head in July, I think. I was actually talking about it today. It's funny because, like, this year

it's been like simultaneously like the best and also the worst year because like so many good things have happened like the book coming out like obviously that was such an amazing amazing thing that I'll probably never do again and like such a once in a lifetime thing that and it was just everything that happened was just so cool and so good but I just it's all a blur and I don't really think I enjoyed it because to be to be fair I mean I was going to say it's shit time we're coming off my day and antidepressants but I honestly don't think there's any good time I think any I had picked it would have been bad but yeah this has been the terrible year for my mental health but that's yeah part and parcel of being alive being being alive yeah so that was fun

part of your most experience that is being me yay um we went to see the lionesses we did yeah in the new yeah oh yeah we went we had we had a nice time together we went to the lioness then you came to the of mine because it's my birthday. No, that was not July, was it? Oh, my birthday's on July. It was. It was. Yeah. Shit, yeah, yeah, yeah. I do remember that date. God, you are really good with dates.

Obviously, I remember my own birthday. No, because you put down on my thing, because you'd put, you'd put, Alex personally, and then you'd put birthday. I was like, how did you know that? How are knowing your birthday is? Why would I not know when your birthday? That's an easy one to remember. It's your birthday.

You don't know my birthday. do you now you're nervous things like things like that don't stick him just just can't I can't like I know day's birthday is either the 30th or 31st of jan but it always just kind of escapes me but I've got it written down but but like I don't know you I've been really sorry I don't know the date of yours I don't know it's July I don't know what day it's July you just know it's July now um my birthday is the 21st of July or is it the 13th or the 19th I can't remember. It's 21st.

I just fucking with you. It's just fun. You're joking. I was like, oh my God. This is fun. Let's work it out. My birth is 21st, July. Yes, we were on the island of mouth my birthday.

I was pregnant, obviously. My sickness started in July. But my mental health just wasn't great, to be honest. And fuck it. I don't even care. I'll talk about it. I don't think anyone who's got to this stage in the podcast goes on this website.

But I went on the horror forum that's just full of pricks. and I got really sucked into it and I basically spent all summer being really affected by that gossip forum like really affected by it and I have jumped forwards but in September

before we announce a baby because I think I was feeling so vulnerable about being pregnant and trying to hide it and just the sickness now I'm so close to the end I realise how bad this sickness has been I'm now on, I can't pronounce the type of pill that I've had, but that I'm on now.

But I'm on like the big, I'm up with the big dogs, anti-sickness-wise. And like, I actually, like, I know people, I don't know, you're not supposed to complain about this stuff, but fuck it. It's, I'm getting to the end and I'm going to say, it's been really hard. And July was hard. Like, I was just, I really struggled with the sickness, because it's before, I started the medication in July, end of July, I think. And that made it a bit easy. but before that it was just really difficult and I just could not stop sleeping and vomiting and that was difficult and I was losing weight which is annoying my iron was low and then because I just am so cruel to myself whenever I'm feeling low for reasons best known to myself I would just partake in this self-harm which was checking that site and just seeing what everybody hated about me which turns out was a bunch so yeah that was killer and I stayed in that really really negative space basically all summer um and i've now gone back to jacklin privately not i was going to do this podcast episode

but actually i had to work this out on my own and we had a really big session and i just realized that these people are fundamentally hurt yeah and they don't know me and i can't stop them and if they want to keep hurting me i just have to let them try like there's there's something wrong there that they want to keep hurting me yeah there's just something wrong and it's not my problem to fix it so as much as it can sometimes hurt and still affect me now when i think about it i've had it blocked on every single device i own and i just can't bear it like you know i'm still trying to make my peace with it with my own feelings of like with my own acceptance of not being like but all summer when i was feeling very vulnerable trying to hide the pregnancy and then

actually i'll just say it as well somebody put on there that I was pregnant. Somebody outed me in September. And that was about as painful a thing has happened as has happened to me. I felt so betrayed and so upset. And I don't know who this person is. I am very close to finding out. And when I do find out, I am very happy to go to their front door and ask them who the fuck they're thinking they are to announce someone else's pregnancy. Really cruel. Really cruel. So yeah, the forums all summer affected me, which is why my mental health was so bad for so long. And I'm, it's night and day the difference in me since I stopped using them.

Like, I'm so much happier. 100% since I stopped checking. But, yeah, I think the beginning of the pregnancy just weren't, you're feeling so vulnerable anyway. And I almost let it ruin the whole pregnancy just by sitting on there worrying about what they were going to think of me as a mother and what they were going to think of me as a pregnant person and what they were going to say about the announcement. And then when they announced it for me on there and all these comments were like,

she's to a mature she'll be a shit mom and i just was reading it just like oh my god i i i'm yeah i'm so low i was so low yeah as anyone would be as anyone would be reading these things about themselves but like you say these people don't know you and they're also just horrible looking they're horror yeah yeah mean just mean like it's really sad it's mean and it's sad and like the sad thing as well is they are like love looking for something to complain about, something to hate, like actively looking for something to hate because that fulfills them in some way and that, I don't know, gives them purpose or like offers them temporary relief from what's going on in their own lives.

But either way you cut the cake, it's sad. Yeah, it is. Yeah, honestly, I can't think of a situation where I would announce somebody that I didn't know his pregnancy on a website. Like I can't Yeah Every time I've tried to justify it Yeah

And you know There's just people They make a rhetoric around you And they just That's that That you know They're not going to change their mind There's one woman

Who just thinks I am So stupid And she just spends all her time Trying to prove that she's right And I'm just like I can't fight with this I can't fight with this You think I'm really stupid

I can't Okay Okay Okay Okay Okay Okay Literally that's the thing

you can have it, hon, you can have it. Yeah, I'm not the brightest bulb in the box. She can't bear that I can't spell. And I'm just like, I'm just peptic. But that's the thing. It's like, you're so intelligent, but like, she can think, she can think that you're stupid. Like, that's fine.

You are, you're, seriously, you're very, you're very intelligent. But that woman can think that you're stupid and she can have that. Like, have that. Take it to bed with you at night. And, like, if that makes you sleep a bit better, like you have that who the fuck cares like yeah there you go yeah it's tough on days when i'm feeling vulnerable it's just it's still in my head like oh god or whatever but anyway it just yeah all summer it affected me and yeah all summer it got me down and i'm annoyed i'm annoyed since the early

bit of the pregnancy but then i actually think that was compounded and actually i had to do this work i had to learn you had to do this work yeah and it had to be hard i had to sit and be genuinely okay. I had to sit in this uncomfortable space of feeling vulnerable, which is not something I like, and of facing the unknown, which is not something I like, and to learn that people are going to judge me. And I have to be okay with that. And I just have to keep focusing on doing my best for me and for my daughter. And so I think it all happened for a reason. And in hindsight, although it was a tough summer on my mental health, I feel a lot stronger for it now and I feel like I've voiced it in a way that I can talk about it comfortably with people

that I love and I can get through everything now. So it's good in hindsight. The thing is I think you did have to do this work because the reality is for us and for everyone who is online and has public accounts and you know or anyone who's sort of in the public eye in any capacity this kind of thing will exist um because as long as you know unhappy people can you know it's just it's going to continue to exist but yeah i feel again grateful that i've done the work because i do think that i mean it's always part of the human condition that we want to be liked and i think a lot of women really struggle with like this people pleasing thing but also you know we've talked a lot about the way that social media is going and it is kind of hard to know how to stay true to

yourself or whatever or like know how to be confident in your own flaws or your own opinions or whatever so i feel i hope that the content that i make now i felt in the summer i didn't really make much content i didn't really know what the point of me was but now i feel like i'm in a much stronger place mentally i feel much better equipped to make content i hope will genuinely help people again so that has been good and i hope will continue to be good if i can keep in this space so again i feel like it happened for a reason because i would like to be able to help, you know, I wouldn't have got to where I am with my mental health if it hadn't been coaching, basically, which is it's something that I'm really privileged to have had. So to be

able to make what I've learned more accessible feels good. So, yeah, that's a positive. I'm proud of you. It's really good. I'm proud of you. Thank you. It's been a journey. A journey. but also in July huge news for women the lionesses won the euros oh god's so cool such a cool year for sport for women for football

for girls playing sport so cool this little baby that I'm gonna I'm gonna be like every single dad and every single pub in the country who finds out he's having a side of it's like oh I'm having the next Wayne Rooney no I'm having the next Jill Scott yes she's gonna be footballer yeah let's do it

Amazing. Amazing. Oh my God. I would so love to like join a five-a-side team. Al, you have to do that. You're so good at football. I would love, I mean, I mean. You are? I did like one kick, but I don't know.

I just think that'd be so fun. No, go do it. Oh my God, you'd be. Oh, my God, please, please, please, please. You'd be so good. You'd be so good. Yeah, that was stunning. August.

Your birthday. Well done. My birthday. So how did you think I didn't know your birthday if I know that you're a Virgo and I tease you ruthlessly for it? Yeah, that's true, actually. That's true. Virgoes are famously August, aren't they? Well, I don't know if that's the case, actually.

They're not, are they? They're July. No, yes. No, they're August in September. Anyway. Anyway, Jesus. August. August.

Okay. Hotest day on record. It was hottest day on record. And the heat wave, like, this was a very unhappy period for me. in many ways like mental health being one but also physical uncomfortability being another

because it was so hot Discomfort, discomfort, discomfort, fuck's sake uncomfort, uncomfortability stupid word Discomfort oh my God it was horrible It was so horrible I remember Dave and I took Betty

to like a late at night at like nine o'clock we're like we're just going to go and have to go for a walk to try and get some air. But I didn't have a bra on because it was too hot to wear a bra and like Dave was walking too fast

and I got so mad that I like cried and frustrated. I was just like, it's not you, it's just the heat. It was so hot. It was so hot. And I think it's then we had a bit of a spin about the, about global climate, didn't we? Climate-gloving. I mean, I did this in November.

I stood in a cafe and cried that it was still so warm. Like I literally was like, I was just holding a coffee and I was just crying. I was like, oh my God, it's so hot. Um, yeah, because it's like, it's kind of hard to enjoy, like, this, because normally I love the sun. Like, I'm a total sun haul, live for it. Um, but pregnancy sickness made that impossible. I couldn't even go outside. I just vomited every time I tried. And I really pitied people who were like heavily pregg. Um, but yeah, so I personally struggled with it. But yeah, you can't enjoy the heat when like, the background context for the reason it's so odd is that the earth is burning.

And I just sat there being like, oh God, I'm bringing a human onto a planet. it's just doomed um it wasn't cheery it was not a cheery month and now it's freezing i'm so relieved i'm like oh thank god i hope the polar bears are all right you know i know it's so cold i do like it i like i like it like i love this like oh my god the snow i don't want the snow to melt it makes everything look so pretty but also it's causing chaos i'll i just feel like you're never going to be happy uh and i feel like you're right correct is that in my star side I'm a miserable moony bitch.

There we go. I like to moan. Andrew Tate got banned from social media. From Instagram. Yeah, I mean, he's back now. So it was a short-lived excitement. But he did get banned. Yeah. Fucking hell.

Fucking ill. I mean. Yeah, that was chaos. You know what? I went to dinner the other day, like my friend's birthday dinner. And I met a teacher and he was a teacher who's like my age teaching at her school in North London. And we were talking about, well, being a teacher and, like, all the things that he's struggling with. And he said the biggest problem that they have right now is in itself, is Andrew Tate, is the way, yeah, like, the difference in how, yeah, the struggles that teachers are having with kids.

He's like, it is terrifying. Like, it was terrifying. And I've heard that from people in my DMs as well. But, like, he said, like, as a male teacher, trying to get through to them, it's just, like, horrible. Like, you hear people, you heal them. you hear these kids saying stuff and it's like fuck me because Andrew Tate is a proper

rotter like proper proper but what he represents is so terrifying if you haven't read it yet please go and read the book Men Who Hate Women by Laura Bates because it explains the very real dangers of

in cell culture and men like him so well because I don't even want to give him that much air time because he is one poster boy for something so so massive and you know whether or not he's acting whether or not he is as awful as he as whatever like I think we need to think a lot broader than him and look at how the fact that he has been able to rise to the position that he has is the scary thing like don't

focus on the individual focus on the culture that celebrates this individual to get him to the level of fame that he had still still has and then the fucking times yeah the Sunday Times or Saturday Times put him on the fucking cover back in October or so that's when I really lost respect for them and it was like don't give him this notoriety like a front page cover of the Saturday Times like so depressing because it completely trivializes and legitimizes him really totally and the the platforms that he's had is just yeah I know and I get it like people want to do it to elevate their own platforms because it's like they know it's going to go viral

but please just let his popularity just like die out in quiet please please please fucking terrified we need to be very aware of what he represents and what is growing online like what young men are sitting

being exposed to it's so much scarier than just porn like it's crazy they're being conditioned to hate women oh on a happier note personal news I have my birth

birthday and you oh i didn't do anything but my mom did her 10th and final iron man which my celebration is that it was her final one because it's been a very long decade of traipsing all over the country watching her little all over the continent literally killing herself for a medal that she already has but i was very proud of her she is 61 she did her first iron man an iron man is a triathlon 2.4 more swim 12-mile bike ride, 26.2-mile run. And she did her first one age 50 after a big change in her life and did one every year, save for COVID,

which is why she did one at 61, not 60, did one every year in the years subsequently, and has now retired, thank God. But she's retired on a high because she came third in her age category in Iron Manistonia, which is pretty remarkable. So she got a little award, gave her a big clap. And it was amazing. Alex also did that Iron Man.

But it's a very different thing for like a very young, naturally fit man to do. And a woman in her 60s who had never exercised before she was 50. So we're going to spot like my mom. She's a bad, she's literally, unreal. Unreal. Yeah, total queen. I love her. Total queen.

Yeah, she's a tits. She came to a live show and she was so, just, just on my mom. best. Yeah, I got a DM from someone yesterday. They've been like, your mom bought me in Guinness. I was like, that's about right. Oh, that's so cute. I love my mom. Yeah, Queen Hag. Queen Hag. I got a fringe cut, a long fringe, maxi fringe, Minge, loved it. And then my mom, on a whim from both of us,

decided she was going to cut me in a proper fringe, despised it, only just grown out and now I'm happier again. And I got obsessed with James Blan. for like four days. Why, Ben? I mean, he is so great. He is so great. No, because I just go back to him so on.

Which song? Because Bonfire Heart is so underrated. And I listen to it a lot now. It is a good song. Me too. So good. Nice like this. I discovered.

It was actually on TikTok. A video came up of him and his dad singing that song about his dad. Oh, yeah. And then I was like, oh, and then I went down a James Blunt hole. Three wise men is so good. Three wise men. For four days. And then I forgot about him.

Oh. Oh, so good. Oh, that's a good. Yeah, Wise Men is great. They did 173. That's a tune. Yeah, he's got a huge archive. Yeah, love him.

And a very high voice. Can't relate. Can't relate. Moving on to September, this is when shit kicked off in the news. Oh my God, it was a big, big, big, big, big. So, Liz Tras became Prime Minister. Yep. Don't get too attached to that fact.

Queen Elizabeth II died. yeah which was just like which came as a shock I feel yeah I mean she was 96 it wasn't like no okay yeah yeah it did happen very quickly didn't it and just like that was crazy proceeded to divide social media

yeah yeah again another horrible time to be online exactly yeah not a nice not a great time for social media I did think I was really kind of mortified with a lot of people's response to that yeah there's a lot as a very old lady has just died just rain it in pardon the plan with rain

anyway and it was it was really good though yeah and then it was good sorry that was late thank you so much

so we were feeling I mean I guess it was like a really turbulent thing because we'd had like kind of no government for like two months which was weird because then everyone was striking but it's like you're striking but there's literally no one there to listen because Boris Johnson was out

Liz wasn't yet in. Then the queen died, which was coconut. So that was like domestic issues. And then, of course, in Iran, the protests started after a young woman, Russia Amin, was killed for violating the country's modesty rules. And in the months since, there have been huge protests and riots

with so many women killed, so many arrested, The first person has just been executed for protesting. And it's terrifying. It's really terrifying. Yeah, September was a lot. It wasn't. And it was slight... The whole year.

Yeah. What else have we had? There's been some, like, huge news stories when we keep being told. It's like, this is a once-in-a-lifetime thing. And it's like, okay, again. And, like, we're getting one a year at this point. We are, aren't we? You don't.

That's very scary, actually. I know, terrifying. A lot of bad shit in September, but personal... I announced that I was pregnant. Yeah! And I feel like it was... It was really good because you had... Like you said before, you'd been worried about, like, stuff online

and, like, worried about announcing your pregnancy and stuff. And actually, like, it was so... It was an amazing response, and everyone was just genuinely really happy for you. Everyone was absolutely lovely. And nobody's told me via Instagram, at least, that I'm going to be a shit mother. So that's nice. because how would anyone know that about me?

How would they have any fucking clue? Well, yeah, that was, it's so weird. I was actually realising that, like, I think, yeah, I feel like when I have the baby people are going to be like, God, that was a short pregnancy, but then obviously I just kept it secret for so long, but kind of fun. Yeah, yeah, you did. You did really well.

You did really well, like over, like, yeah, anyway, a long way through, it was good. One fucking person who outed me. Yeah. I cannot wait to find out how she knows. Like, can't wait. That was horrible. That was really horrible. Anyway, yeah, so we announced it.

We announced it to the internet and everyone was really nice. Yeah, really cool. You did a great Greg's announcement as well. Preggs, Gregs, Greggs. And Greg sent me a 50 pound high roller card as a congratulations for being pregnant. Yes. 50 pounds. I've not been yet.

That's a cool, that's a cool, well done for being pregnant gift, isn't it? It's a great gift. I don't need a baby shower. I have my high roller card from Greg's. your own personal news please from september my own personal because i i said to jen just i said to jen just before can like can you remember what i did in september and she's written down so i did the penalty i did a penalty i did a really good penalty okay so i went to the sky sports studios um for football purposes and i did a really good penalty and i won woman of the match and i was

very happy um that was exciting and then she said not much else in your diary apart from depression sorry what's about right which I think pretty much sums up September and October but the good thing is it was kind of that I think it was in September that I conceded that it was

and things were not going well so I was I went to see a psychiatrist who then put me back on a dose to like tailor down off of that so to tailor down even like longer I don't know, long and complicated, but not a great month, so we'll move on to October. Stunning, fair enough.

News-wise, again, just as chaotic, to be honest, because Liz Trouss resigned as Prime Minister, lull. She was outlived by a lettuce. That's when the internet really is great. Rishi Sunak became Prime Minister, because democracy just doesn't exist here anymore. Elon Musk bought Twitter, which was weird. And, although he started the acquisition early this year, it went through in October, and the Justop Oil protests all kicked off, which I listened to a really interesting podcast on by the news agents, and it was about like whether the ends ever, like, the ends justify the means, basically. And she was, it was Emily Maitless, and she was talking about how, like, because obviously a lot of people don't like the Justup Oil protest because they were blocking the M25 and like people were saying, Ambin. this couldn't get through, someone missed their dad's funeral, like, bad vibes.

Because people were obviously, like, you know, blocking the motorways, and then there were people gluing themselves to the tarmac and shit. Anyway, and it is an inconvenience, obviously. And then everyone's trying to call them hypocrites, being like, and well, you're using superglow, and that's not very good for the environment, and that annoys me. That argument annoys me, it's stupid. Anyway, she just made a really good point in this podcast about how, like,

the suffragettes through bricks, through windows when they were protesting for equal rights. Like, obviously the civil rights movement, like, ended or there was a lot of, like, inconvenience, I suppose, caused by, like, people fighting and protesting for, in the end, change that is necessary and mandatory for a better world. And, like, arguably, what's more important than fighting climate change and oil? I mean, I guess it's the same, it's the same with the train strikes as well, isn't it? Everyone's like, it's so inconvenient.

like saying like it's so inconvenient and it's like it is and that's the point that's the point of it it's to be as inconvenient as possible because if it's not if it doesn't disrupt the average person's life then you know people care less about it basically it needs to be disruptive and that's I guess that's the point yeah yeah 100% I guess like the difference is with the strikes is like we need to be reminded with nurses rail post that we that you know these are services that we rely on which is why they need to be paid adequately

because if they don't deliver the services yeah but yeah and then I guess the difference with like the just deployal thing is is it's like I don't know there's just still so much like climate change denial and I can't understand it it's like I saw a video this summer of a Nassar scientist

sitting outside the office is crying just being like he was part of the protest being like you do not understand how bad this situation is. Like, it's so dire and nobody's listening and it's like, oh my God,

why the thought? That's really horrible. It's nobody listening. I thought the film, is it just look up or don't look up? Don't look up, yeah. Don't look up. I thought that did a really, really good job. What are we thinking either? Don't look up or very different instructions.

Just look up or don't look up. Actually, both kind of work for the subject matter. But I thought that did a really, really good job of opening people's eyes to something that we're just clearly all like collectively just trying to ignore. 100%. And it's like, it's more than this like personal yes, okay, good to use sustainable deodorants

or buy slow fashion or, you know, whatever it is. Like yeah, okay, great, on a personal level, we all have to be doing our bit, but this is so much bigger. And what Justup Oil are calling for is like massive government change and reform and awareness. And like I just, I feel bad because when I look at them, I'm like, bless them.

It's always the same. It's like, it's just the, it's young people who are so easy for the media to vilify. You know, it was that young girl stood on top of the, whatever they're called, Aintree. I keep hearing the word and I never know what people are actually saying, but you never told. Like a bridge? Yeah, like, and she was standing up there and she was crying to a video and she's like, I know people are going to hate me, but like, I don't have a future and I'm scared. And everybody just laughed at her.

And it's like, why are you fucking laughing? Like, she's right. But it's so easy to vilify, like, you know, the ones that through the, and I don't like that they're throwing pain at Van Gogh and stuff. Because it's just like, leave Vincent out of it. He had a horrible life. Leave him out of it. But, you know, it's always the same.

It's always just like, people would like, who are so easy for, like, people with, like, funny colored hair or like, you know, I don't know. It's just, it's like the woke people, but it's so much easier for all. for the boomers to hate. I know, I know. And the, like, the thing is, yeah, we'll all be in shit when it, you know, when shit hits the fan, but. Yeah, and everyone will be going, why didn't we do more?

But then I also get, like, like, someone missing their father's funeral, like, things like that is just, it's, yeah, it's, it's horrible that anyone's in the position in the first place. But the people that are doing the protest don't want to be in that position in the first place either, you know? They're not like, oh, this is a fun, like, cool thing to do. Like, they're doing it for a reason. Yeah, and they were letting ambulances through.

That was part of the media narrative that they didn't, you know, like, that was part, it doesn't suit. Like, the media in this country is so right-wing and hateful now in, like, basically all areas that they just logged the headlines saying, you know, the ambulance couldn't get through and stuff. They weren't actually printing a whole truth, which is that, for the most part, they were being let through. But a lot of them couldn't get through. I get that. But, like, I don't know. I don't know, man. Yeah.

They were using the hard shoulder. It is hard. It's tough. Anyway. It is hard. And I guess things that, like, we don't necessarily have, like, complete answers to or, like, you know. Yeah. But listen to the Emily Mait, the news agents podcast about it, that episode they did.

Because Emily Maitlis and John Sheppel, I think that's his name. Anyway, they have a really big debate about it. She won, which I loved. But it's actually really cool to hear people like, actually, because he was like, no, I can't stand them. They're selfish people doing bad things. And she's like, yeah, but you have to fight for greater good. And this is a really good debate and I really enjoyed it. And they did better than we did at talking about it.

So go listen to them. Excellent. I'm going to listen. I also wanted to touch on the fact that we got our first ever female plus size Disney protagonist. It's a short. It's not a full-length feature film. It's a short. It's called Reflect.

It was divisive. This news was divisive because while we did get our first ever female plus-size protagonist in Disney you know there was a lot of a lot of people that said quite rightly as well that the plot line still revolved around the fact that she was plus size you know it was kind of like her facing her body image issues and her body you know them stopping her from from being a dancer she was a brilliant dancer and and in the end she triumphed over these issues and you know carried on dancing but still it's true it would be good if it didn't revolve around her being plus size, but still good news.

And also, it might be kind of a nice story in that there might be plus size kids, girls who aren't not dancing because they think they can't dance because they think they're plus size. And that might be telling their story. That might be nice. Right, right, exactly. I think it's definitely good news. It's not perfect, but it's progress. Yeah. So there you go. Progress, not perfection. I find that a bit difficult. It's like, okay, Brown does a good thing, and then everyone's like, oh, it's not good enough. And it's like, but let them take the steps. I know. I do get in this, in this circumstance, because I'm like, it would just be so, like, shrill. Did you ever watch that?

No. That was a TV series that had a plus size protagonist and yes, her size was, like, brought up like a little bit, but also she just like lived a great life and like, like irrelevant of her size, right? Yeah. So it would be nice to see more of those characters that are just, yeah, they're just like. In nine perfect strangers. Melissa McCarthy's character Did you watch it? I fucking loved it

Oh but it's so good watch it I did watch it With Nicole Kidman Yeah But like I just love Melissa McCarthy's character She's obviously plus size Because Melissa McCarthy is Sorry sick of my mouth

But they never brought it up Like it just She's got her own romantic Which you never get She got a romantic Storyline Plot line That was not like

Anything to do with size. It wasn't like a pity thing. It wasn't an overcoming thing. It was just, this is my character and now I'm going to have a romantic storyline like everybody else. Just loved it. Yeah. So good. Yeah. It's just how it should be. It's just exactly how it should be. Yeah. And it's like so sad that up until now it's like, you know, fat people, fat characters are always, you know, either the like the funny ones or the ones that are like struggling to find love or like they're trying to overcome these like demons. and it's just a shame

so I do get where people were coming from but at the same time I think there's a nice story because I think that will be the story for a lot of little girls and all those shorts have to be inspiring

that's the point of them they're supposed to and this is the thing is that if it didn't acknowledge that she had hardship she faced suffering for her size it wouldn't be correct

like it wouldn't be really truly reflective of what plus size people do actually have to face in their lives because fat phobia is so rife like it's it's just part and parcel of being a fat person unfortunately so if they didn't show that i guess it wouldn't be true to like and like a real fat person's experience but and i'm also i just feel i don't know i just feel like it's um grace beverly did a really good post about something the other day like i like the way she speaks about

sustainability but somebody commented because she's in bali um at the time of recording this she and somebody commented on her post being like oh did you just need to be in bar in bali what a sustainable queen kiss kiss kiss or whatever like obviously a passad comment about because obviously grace has we are talla which is a sustainable clothing line and it's all about slow fashion and that's her priority with her fashion and stuff and she basically put up a really good story saying well like i've never proclaimed to be queen of sustainable i'm just trying to do one good thing and i'm trying to you know, do the best that I can and also try and change whatever, but it's like when you hold everybody to this all or nothing standard or like this perfect or nothing standard, nobody's

going to even try. And I do feel like that a bit. Like I had it with, I have it with Venus. Like when we work with Venus, I get DMs being like, oh, you know, well, they're really problematic because they're the ones that encourage women to start shaving in the first place in the 50s. And it's like, but if you don't let a brand do better, we could spend our entire lives calling for brands to do better. and then the minute they start doing better they're like well you can't do that like it's not enough or you haven't done better like you haven't done whatever and it's just like

you have to give space for this we have to and we and the fact that we're still going to argue the tiny little points around this like whatever it's like this is why people aren't taking the issues that are considered woke that seriously because we just don't you know we we push for too much

it's like we need to accept realistic wins take this them and go with them rather than pushing back on every little win that we get being like it wasn't enough it wasn't enough it wasn't enough do you know what I mean yeah I know totally all progress is good progress and when we attack any kind of progress it's counterproductive counterproductive 100% in personal news in October I'd like you to read yours out please both of our personals are so stupid on this I cut a stupid fucking fringe and they're In capitals.

Stupid fucking are in capitals. I hated it. I hate it. I, yeah, I told you, I'm still looking into the legal ramifications of suing Jack the hairdresser for telling me it was a good idea. What a knob. What a knob? It's all my fault.

Because I said yes. It's finally on the way out. Yeah, it's grown out a fair bit, yeah. Yeah, it's on the way. Thank you. Unless you know not to do it again. Out. This is the third fringe I've had in 10 years.

Okay. so we can't learn in like three years. I will never learn from my mistakes. Nothing is more certain. Okay, please read out your personal news. Exactly as it's written here. Mine just says terrible month. So the way that we find out what happened in our personal lives this year is going back

through Instagram because I've got no memory. And basically I document my entire life on Instagram. But there's hardly anything on Instagram for this month. and that's because like when I get really bad mental health-wise I'm not really able to do much on Instagram so that's the lack of content on social media for October is reflective of my mental health because the my doctor upping me,

the psychiatrist upping me to the dose of like then tailoring down more slowly didn't cut it, didn't work and I kind of my poor sister she started she started work with me and it was not good Yeah, not good. She was like scared to come into the house quite a lot of days. It was not great. And also, compounding everything was that I was just desperate to do this egg freezing, this embryo freezing stuff, like desperate. And my body was just not on board at all. So I got shut down to get shut down, but I got told I couldn't do it twice in October as well, which was just made the whole thing worse. It was a bad month. Oh my God, let's move on. Well, no, we picked it up actually in November. Well, I didn't. I have nothing personal to report from November.

I know, you're empty. I know. I just happened, but I mean, genuinely, I don't think I did anything. Like, I'm getting my house ready for a kid. I'm seeing, but, you know, nothing, really, just doing my job. I feel like November was a good month for you. It was. And actually, it's the classic, no news is good news.

Yeah, yeah, oh my God, if so is. Yeah, I'd had my coaching. I was feeling way better. I got a, I think it's like five or six week window where I wasn't being sick this year. And that was in November. It came back in December. It came back about, it came back on my friend's birthday. That's the first of December.

Yes, it came back two weeks ago. Yeah, so all of November was pretty chilled on my front because I wasn't vomiting that month, just feeling pretty good. Yeah, from like 20, I can't remember what weeks. Anyway, yeah, I had, I had in and a month. the latter half, the late 20s of my pregnancy, I wasn't being sick, so that's cool. And yeah, stunning, like that for me. And I don't think anything fucking happened.

I don't think anything happened. Yeah. Literally. So good. I did my embryo freezing. That was my entire month, pretty much. Yeah. And it was great by start contrast to October.

Yeah, yes. November, things looked up for me. Definitely. Definitely. There was a noticeable change. Well, also in November, Jennifer Aniston did her big interview, and she talked about IVF. I felt like it was a very big, like, part of the rhetoric in November in our lives. It was, actually.

I think that was a really big thing for her to have talked about. Yeah. And given her relationship with the media, or just how much scrutiny she's been under for her adult life, really. I'm still quite surprised that she talked about it, you know. I think I would have felt like fuck you yeah fuck you I'm not giving you anything

like you've you've all been absolute twats to me over this you know I'm I'm just surprised she did it but good on her she got criticised for years didn't she for like putting her career

over her children or over her family or whatever and she's now come out and said like all these years later that she was trying to get pregnant she didn't freeze her eggs yeah she wished she'd frozen her eggs when she was younger but she didn't and then by the time she came to do IVF

it was too late for her and it's just like it's such a sad story that she had to do that with the background noise of everybody telling her that she was selfish for not trying to have a family

when the whole time she was and it's just like fucking hell everyone asking her in every single interview kids, kids, motherhood like constantly constantly because like oh god I'm even thinking about

and I'm like cringing thinking about it when I interviewed someone I interviewed a celebrity and hello and I remember asking them like are there wedding bells on the horizon but like I don't think it would have been that because we had not we didn't have yeah we had to we had to ask that

we had to get stuff like that yeah you know like for headlines and stuff but like I don't think it would have been that far fetched to be like you know you can think about starting a family soon which just makes people want to die well we both shared that mean that that's that mean the other day

that's just like we need stop asking people when they're starting a family because a couple is a family, a dog is a family. Like, your friends are your family. Yeah, I correct Dave on that all the time. He says like, oh, you know, like when we start family, I'm like, we're already a family, babe. Yeah, what you mean is when you have children. When we have children, exactly. Yeah, that's what we have to ask people instead, like, if that's the question that you want to ask.

But also don't ask them that either. But yeah, don't judge me because for like, I'm judging myself for that. Anyway, I'm not judging you. But actually, Jennifer Aniston saying that started a conversation as well. And I think it was on this morning or something. Anyway, my mum rang me and she was just like, God, I've just been listening. You know, off the back of the Jennifer Aniston interview, listening to this woman who was trying so hard for years to have kids

and people would be asking her all the time. And she was like, it's just so bad that people ask about having children. She said it really made me rethink how I, you know, talk to people who don't have children. children yet. I was like, that's really cool. That's really cool. It is a lot. So I think she's done a good thing, Jennifer Aniston. You know, there will have been a lot of conversation off the back of that. Yeah, I think it's the same thing as that Emma Thompson, like, we need older women to stand up and say these things, because they're the ones that have been silenced for the longest. Yeah. Bless her. So, so yeah, I think that was a really cool

thing to have spoken about. And I think she said she's made peace with it now, right? She's like, yeah come to terms with it all now but like that must have just been and what an unusual situation as well because like most of the stuff that we go through other people will have gone through but that is is such a rare so unique imagine like going through IVF and not working out and at the same time just being under this huge scrutiny I remember being like when Jennifer Anderson could have a baby like surely she's going to have a baby soon like she's going to be pregnancy, like, I remember thinking that because, like, I don't know. You just think that's what she's going to do.

You just think that's what she's going to do, yeah. It's just quite, it's really sad. Matt Hancock went into the jungle. We have written down. Yeah. Oh. Chaos. Yeah, I couldn't even watch the jungle this year because I...

The jungle was rogue this year. Boy George, who was charged with beating a man, chaining a man to his radiator and beating him with a metal chain and a sex toy. Which, by the way, if he had done that to a woman, very different situation, but... I didn't know he was charged with that. Yeah, he went to prison for it. Fuck. Fuck.

Sean Walsh. Who publicly cheated on his girlfriend, Rebecca Humphreys, who has subsequently come out and spoken at length about what he was like as a partner, and that included abuse and gaslighting. And then Matt Hancock, who again, I mean, is only a celebrity. by virtue of the fact that he mishandled a global pandemic resulting in millions of people

dying, not being able to say about their loved ones in a care home, and then blatantly breaking the rules that he had made by having an affair humiliating his family, wife and three children, with a woman that worked for him, and then managed to sweep it all off as all, but I fell in love.

And it's just like, what the fuck was this jungle this year? It was just like, oh, it was just a redemption for like, whatever. It's just a chance for these men just to redeem themselves and show their humanity and be forgiven and sure enough. But there didn't seem to be much backlash about it about the contestants. No, none. Like none. And it's, it was so frustrating. It was so frustrating. You can literally go to prison and then be paid hundreds of thousands of pounds to go and sit on ITV and redeem your career.

Hi guys, it's Em from the Future here. I just wanted to jump in and quickly acknowledge that we recorded this episode in mid-December before the article that my dad wrote about Megan Markle was published in The Sun. In this next section here, we talk about Prince Harry and Megan Markle and the documentary. And when we were talking about it, we did not have the added context in this section following the news around the article. So we maintain that what we said here is important and I absolutely stand by everything I've said. I just wanted to let you know that we didn't have the context that we do now. So if you're listening to it, thinking that we're skirting around something massive, we're not, it just wasn't, it hadn't happened at the time.

So I still hold the same views on Megan Markle and stand by what I said in response to my dad's article on my Instagram page. I vehemently disagree with what he said. And, yeah, I hope you enjoy it. Thanks so much. Well, I guess, I mean, that does bring us on to December and Harry and Megan. It does, have released their Netflix. Have you watched it? Yeah. I have, and it just made me so sad.

Is it sad? I haven't watched it. I actually had quite a lot of thoughts on it because I realise I've always said about Harry and Megan, particularly about her. I've never come out and said I'm a huge Megan Markle superfan. I just, I don't, it's what we were saying before about like the perfect victim not existing. It's like, I just, I don't think anybody deserves what she has gone through.

And I don't really care what she has done. You know, when people are like, oh, but she's this and she's this and she's this. And I'm like, even so, even if she is, all those things that you're saying, I still don't think that would make her deserving of what's happening to her. And that's kind of what the show is solidified for me. Like, when I was watching it, I realized, I've never even heard her voice, you know. Like, I was listening to her and I was like, oh, my God, that's what she sounds like. And then I was like, how do I know so much about her?

And I've actually defended her so much and talked so much about her. I don't even know what she sounds like. And then there was stuff that, like, do you remember her dad didn't come to her wedding because, well, he had a heart attack, but also before that he had been selling stories about her and staging photos for the press and, like, working with the press basically to fuck her over.

And then he didn't come to the wedding. And I remember all the news articles at the time being, like, what a cold-hearted bitch didn't even invite her dad to her own wedding. And listening to that story and her telling it, I'm like, this is fucking heartbreaking. And like, poor girl, like, imagine your dad doing that to you. You'd be so devastated.

And she never, I'd never even heard her side of it. And there was just so much stuff that I know the story very well, because I've defended her for years. But I'd never even heard her side of it. And, like, yeah, I see Harry watched his mother be killed by the establishment. And he can do what he fucking wants to get out. And that was the other interesting thing. The whole show calls up.

out the press. That's what it's doing. It's talking about the British press and how fucking vile it is. And obviously the response by the press to this direct call out by Harry and Megan was to double down and be as cruel

as is imaginable. And I just think it's so terrifying like the what the British press do like to have it pointed out so explicitly to show what happened to Diana. to have it all laid out in this documentary and people still are like yeah but fuck him

she's a bully apparently she's a bitch apparently it's like oh my god that's what you're taking away from this my takeaway isn't anything to do with these two people my takeaway is how desperately ashamed i am to be part of britain and part of the media it's embarrassing it is embarrassing and the idea that things like her being fame hungry or her engineering this you know this relationship with prince harry engineering her meeting prince all of it like the idea of those things meaning that somehow she deserves what she's got you know yeah yeah like it's what she gets there's also it's like the race element which is undeniable for a few reasons. One, because you can see it playing this fucking day. The first article

the son wrote about her was Megan Markle straight out of Compton. Like, I mean, what the fuck is that? Yeah. But also, it's not for white people and white journalists and a white media to deny her experience. We can't say that's not racist because it's not us. So we have to listen to her because that's her lived experience. and her truth and her life and you can't just discredit it because you don't want to hear it like it's mad

but like I don't understand why people care so strongly as well like they care so passionately about Megan that they will fight tooth and nail to explain to you why she's bad

why this why that and to be like doing that to me even when I just like put this general defence saying like I don't hate I don't love her I don't I'm just saying this is the problem with the press and people are still going and it's like why are you doing this why do you want her to die like what do you exactly what's the outcome what is the out what is the outcome

that you're looking for yeah what is it you want them to lose all their money and be very unhappy and just like live a very miserable life like would that make you feel better and why really sit with that like I can't understand that this need to prove like And, I mean, we are conditioned to think like this. Like, after the documentary came out, the massive controversy was around Megan Markle doing the curtsy. And she basically, in the documentary, she says that when she met the Queen, she didn't know how to curtsy.

And she said, she was like, oh, God, I didn't know what to do. And I said to Harry, should I go like this? And she did this big, like, dramatic curtsy, going, oh, my lady, or whatever. And she's taking the piss out of herself for not knowing, which is fair fucks, Al, because I wouldn't know how to curtsy. Like, I would not know. I was born, like, two miles away from where the queen lives and I wouldn't know how to curtsy to her.

Yeah, anyway. And then Sarah Vine wrote this. So hateful. Wrote the same for the Daily Mail being, like, right, so Megan's allowed to call out racism, but we're not allowed to say that she's racist when she takes the piss out of our curtsy. Like, you can't have it both ways.

And it's like, sorry. Racist. It's not racist. that she didn't know how to do with curtsy. You can't be racist against the queen. She's the one person. Like, it's literally impossible. Like, bless her from a family of colonizers.

You can't, we can't accuse. Like, you can't be racist to the royal family. The white ones. The one that tape was such a stretch. Such a stretch. Literally, such a stretch. But people were like, she put herself into a pretzel. Yeah.

Trying to do that. But people love it. And then you get, oh, well, apparently, like, her house staff say she's a billionaire, house staff say this. And I'm just like, real people have said that Prince Andrew is a nod, for lack of a better word. And you're not as angry. You're not as angry. You're just not.

Yeah. You know, you're happy enough. Imagine, Al, imagine if Harry and Meg had been given the corgis. Honestly, the RSPTA would have been flooded with calls. People are being like, they can't have the dogs, all on. Prince Andrew could have the dogs, and then, okay, well, that's nice. We've gone to the Queen's favourite song. It's just pathetic.

If Harry and Megan had been given the corgis, honestly, there'd have been, like, there'd have been a petition somewhere calling for the dogs to be euthanized because it would have been kinder than letting them live with these two snowflakes. I can guarantee it. I honestly just don't get the obsession. Like, I don't, I don't get the preoccupation, honestly. Like, just get a grip. I just feel like, and this is the main takeaway from this episode, it's like,

the internet is like as much of like the be kind stuff as we're trying to push for and call for and need it's like we can't help it the internet just thrives off being really really really really me I know it's depressing like and it's and all the jokes and all the means it's always other people's expense I've just been so hurt like even seeing like people that I like my friends and stuff you know like sharing jokes about harry and megan it's like they're real fucking people like why are you doing this or delighting in the in the um like misery of another person yeah it's really sad i just don't understand it's just sad isn't it but on a positive note because i feel like this just got bleak um like i feel like the stuff that people in our community are doing like my bubble on

Instagram. I know it's a bubble. I know it's not reflective of the whole world, but it's really positive in my little Instagram bubble and the people that I follow and they're doing good things. And I think, yeah, there is definitely, there's, there are good people and good stuff out there. And like, hopefully this will all start to shift. And maybe it is shifting, but it's just shifting really slowly and we can't see it yet um okay personal news in personal personally in december obviously the live show of obviously fuck christmas that's what that was that was my christmas day and dave came what a highlight and dave came did you say yeah um what a highlight yeah honestly i can't think of anything

else i'm doing in december and particularly not anything else that will count or anything else that will match that. So that was I think one of the best nights of my year for sure. Obviously out most of these months you've just said you've had a terrible year. It's crippling depression. Yeah exactly. Surely this is what could possibly be higher? Can I just hear just for my own interest what is on par with the live show from this terrible year? Okay you've got a point you've got a point just give it to us say it was the best night of the year I can't think okay it was the best night of the year hands down had an absolute blast. I did. It wasn't the best night of my year, but it was top three. Okay, so you just got me to say that so then you could be like, well, it wasn't a mine.

It would be the best, but otherwise my owl will be listening to this being like, we got married this year. Yeah, to be fair, you did get married this year. You did find out you were pregnant this year. That wasn't going to be on there, but it was going to be my wedding, my wedding night, my hen night, then the live show. Fine. I thought you were going to say something like really just like banal. I was like, you better fucking mouth. Then the live show. It was amazing.

And also, we have to take this opportunity to say a massive thank you. To everyone who listens to this podcast. The biggest thank you. What a year. I mean, we said it in the live show, but like, actually, I don't think we did say it in the live show. I think I said to this to you before we went on. I don't know.

It's all a bit of a blur. But I think I said to you, like, did you imagine when we went to a little cafe in London last year and you're like, I think I'm going to start a podcast and I was like, oh, can I join? Like, did you imagine that we would be here and people would actually be listening and they actually like it? That's just, it's so cool. It's like.

Of the year. Yeah, no, of my life. It's not the people listen to it so much as that people like it. That's the thing that really gets me. It's unbelievable. It's so cool. And I don't think it will ever. fully sinking um but you're all just the best the best and this feels like such a nice

community and such a good safe space and i think that's why we end up saying a lot of things on here that we wouldn't say on instagram because it just it feels like a safe space for us and like somewhere where we can just so cringe like be ourselves but like be ourselves yeah i need be our guests be our guests be our guests Where we can live, laugh and love. Where we can live laugh and love. Live, laugh, love and cry. It's been an amazing.

And yeah, it has been an amazing. I tell you what, while we're being cheesy, and if you can't say it at Christmas, when can you say it? Wait, how does the expression? Oh, God. Well, no, I'm not going to be weird. Also, I'm not going to try and have an affair with you

because that is such a bad plot line. Like, what's you doing? Yeah. Yeah, let's just say about that. Don't ruin the vibes. I also, Karen Knight was 18, but we won't get into it, it's fine. You are? Karen Knight was 18 in love, actually.

Don't think too much about it. It's actually become incredibly problematic. No, she wasn't. Yeah. Fuck, that's so problematic. So, no. Oh, a baby. A baby.

I know, child bride. Getting married. Why am she getting married at 18? I know. Bad vibes. Bad. Oh, God help her. I know.

Anyway. Yeah, and then she's got a fucking, yeah, a husband's weird mate coming around. But like, fuck off. You've ignored me for a year. Yeah. He looks like he's in his 30s. Yeah, in the years. Anyway, I digress.

Such a good book. It's Carol so good. Anyway, yeah, I tell you what, it has been ups and downs all year, but it's been really fun to have you alongside me. We've had colleagues, we've had a team, that a purpose, we've had some downs,

and we've had some doubts, but I feel like we're in a really good place. and I feel really excited for everything we've got planned for next year and yeah I just feel really grateful for all of it mostly for you because you haven't quit yet which I'm really really surprised by because if you can not quit throughout this year fuck you have yeah

it's a bad months bad months and I'm happy that they're over so yay we're 2023 every time I get a DM that is not overwhelmingly positive I threaten to quit Honestly, I'm, wait, well, before we go, before we go. Oh my God, are you going to type quit in? I'm going to type quit into our chat search.

Quit. Right, 95 matches. Although, the most recent one, can I read this up? The last message is a good message because you say, you've emboldened me, thank you, I don't quit anymore. But before that, before that. before that oh my god it's just so good

it's me before that it's me going to you pleased you didn't quit and then you

then there's one from you going so I think I have to quit um excellent and then

you get there's another one from you saying I'm quitting uh this is when your story views were down

you were upset you were going to quit we've had a lot of quits we've had a lot of quits oh joy 95 matches is quite good hang on what have we got for quitting specific look we're here a year on

one full year on yeah and how many how many times have you gone and I think you only went on to LinkedIn once looking for another job it's so anxiety inducing honestly when I was a bad day I'm like oh god is this going to be fixed with ice cream

or are we got a full career change coming I think at one point I went on to like an automated career helper where you like type in your skills and they tell you what you can do and I was like I don't really know what my skills are this is hard I used to be able to speak French but not anymore like speak a tiny bit of Spanish I can talk about talking French then I've got a voice note from you being like

oh I've been looking at online journalism jobs I was like oh my God please don't do this Because every time you do it, I'm like, it's my job too. Honestly, and then it's like, I say it mostly in Jess, but then I've got no confidence that you're actually not going to quit. I just have to hope. I just have to sit and hope that you can snap out of it. Which is so far, so good.

Look, nobody likes stability, and everyone loves being kept on their toes, so you are welcome. It is exhausting. Okay? I know, because honestly, wait, hang on, hang on, hang on. I just, while we're here, just before we go. I just need to have a look. How many times we've said OMG in the WhatsApp group? Oh my God.

325 times and they are all from you out, honestly the last ones. I don't know. Ducking hell, OMG. OMG, all trains cancelled. OMG. OMG, what's happening? OMG what?

OMG, I'm gobsmacked. I feel so fucking bad. Oh, M. why what's final ohmg ohmg no it had 387 ohmg thank you ohmg me too ohmg i'm going to put ohmg literally ohmg ohmg i've missed a meeting ohmg i'm so sorry omg one thousand percent is all from you ohmg ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ohmg sad face OMG, no OMG

What's that fucking cunt OMG OMG OMG she was so drunk OMG OMG what how OMG

Oh my God you're a second OMG I was thinking this OMG what happened OMG Ongie legend OMG what did I do

OMG are you winding me up OMG for sake. Come on. This is all me? Yes. All you and we've only got to 42. OMG, should we see if they're free tomorrow?

OMG get in there. All you out. OMG, OMG, that's two. OMG, you're living the dream. OMG, seriously. OMG. Oh my God. I say OMG so much.

It's all me. It's all me. It's all you. It's all me. OMG, wait. Oh, M.G, have you actually? OMG, isn't it? To be fair, oh, M.G, I'm so jealous.

Oh, what's this one? Omg, I'm so jealous. Can't type with this is Nils. OMG, are you actually getting a Peloton? I cannot believe. OMG! OMG, your eyelashes look so good. Oh, M.G.

Jealous. OMG, I think you can't put it all day. OMG, that would be insane. OMG, I was about to say I'm in a cafe. OMG, are you serious? OMG, RIPM OMG, my friend has gone in OMG, a tickle scan, no sleep and a hangover

What the fuck? What? OMG 4. OMG, how rude. OMG, no way. OMG, why? OMG, I can't deal with the no planning. OMG is epic.

OMG, okay. Okay, OMG. OMG, it's so good. Pissing myself. Oh my God. I'm still only at 137 out of 325. OMG, we've had no likes. What the fuck?

OMG, I'm too old to use the word sock. Sick. Sick, sick. OMG, I'm so excited. OMG, ha, ha. OMG didn't even think. Not even a thousand likes, OMG. Omg, that's a really fucking good idea.

Oh, my God. absolutely deceased OMG so sorry ohmg ha ha ha ha next year I'm going to do all the times you said arr okay you know I'm going to do all the times you said lull oh god no oh my good 1,000

5 no 1,052 matches oh my god and they're all you sorry for the minor panic lull they still might lull I need to go for a walk lull listening for the third time lull

i'm fuming lull bladder is fine lull wasn't in my diary lull depends on tomorrow lull i've sat in this chair for seven hours it's not comfortable lull i am lull had some tea and cheese lull

gonna be a late one lull it's so annoying lull she wants to go out for dinner lull bed or can I call you lol probably a good thing lol don't know what to say or do lol I'll be bald all day probs lol no lol this will get me out of it lol lol lol lol lol lol I thought this was a video it's just your face lol I'll text him lol lull reply lull reply in capitals lol k lol k k k I do it all the time lol I'm so fuck lull before we do lull so straight from all the lolling

i really type that are you going to make it in lol the different energies that we bring you're like oh jeez so frantic and i'm like loll you're going to come like it's why is mine so chilled might you be there maybe please tell me what to do lol oh lull we need to get it up lull go us lull doing a me lull this is going great lol oh lull that's amazing me neither lol mostly meant hope it's okay lol oh she doesn't want to tell us lull i'll never forgive her lull i don't know anything lol lull it sucked her tip lol lull lull i'm here lol lull lull lull please let me in lull we ask them to let me in

lol i'm meant to have a wax lull finally sorting the butthole out This makes me sound like an idiot, loll. No, loll, fair enough, loll, loll, loll, loll. Shit show over a day, loll. Loll. Loll my Alex. It hasn't been resolved, loll. Oh my God, there's so many lulls. Of course they did.

Loll. I'm so out of my depth, lull. Sorry, lull. Loll, can't talk now, loll. I said, take it up with my husband, lull. Now I'm going to block. lol love how you think I'm so thick yeah lol

confused lol not just me lol battering needs a clean lol I'm ending this I've put them back out lol

I'm in a toilet roll dress lol oh god I'm so annoying literally a thousand more lolls a thousand more loll I'm only on 136 and we have 1,052 lulls. I am going to write down on January 1st

how many lulls and how many OMGs and how many R's we have and that will be next year's roundup episode. An accumulation of the acronyms. We have now been talking for three hours and five minutes which is ridiculous and we said it was going to be maximum two hours. And of course we can't end this our final episode for the year either

without thanking all of the guys. guests that have been on this year we can't I don't even want to pull out a couple because I feel like I want to thank them all because they've all been amazing and a huge part of the podcast and why people want to listen I think the fuck knows it's not us so 100% exactly agree yeah but they've been amazing we've had some incredible guests on this year and really varied actually we've had a lot of variation this year which has kept it just so fun for us as well like it's so interesting and I've learned so much with the guests we've interviewed this year and I can't like I'm just like thinking like looking forward to next year imagine us like sitting here next

year and being like all the guests of this year like I wonder who they'll be that's so exciting I know and for what it's worth um I'm really proud of us I think it's been really hard work yeah I think it's paid off and I think it's been worth it and yeah I love you and Daisy and Amy and everybody that's made the podcast work this year. So thank you so much for listening. I was going to apologize for it being so long, but you know what? We didn't strap this.

It is what it is. You've made this choice. You've got it to hear. You must be having a terrible Christmas and we can therefore only apologize and make the January gets better. And you've made it this far in the podcast knowing that we're not brief. So.

Although judging by the text. It's very fitting. It does seem like I am incredibly brief, like, over text. I don't know where the disconnect is. It's so chatty here and so abrupt. Yeah. Yeah. Loll.

But yeah, lull. Loll. Oh, my God. Thank you all so much. Love you all. Love you. Love Daisy. Love Amy.

Thank you to everyone for being here. And here's to 2023. Here's the 2020. We will see you. Well, we'll see you on Thursday, but we'll also see you in January. We'll see you in Bonn. We'll see you around. Happy Christmas. Love you.

Happy Christmas. Bye. Should I delete that is part of the ACAS creator network.