Should I Delete That? - 2024 Round Up! (Part One)

Episode Date: December 23, 2024

Welcome to our annual round up! Have we done enough of these to call it annual now? We think so!In today’s episode - we’re taking you through our biggest news, pop culture and personal moments from Q1 and Q2 of 2024. It was the year that bought us Tommy, Baby Reindeer and Brat Summer. We discuss the general feeling of discontent that we’ve felt this year, the rise in online cruelty and the absolute joy of going on our first ever podcast tour. We’ll be back on Thursday to take you from July to December!Email us on [e-mail] us on Instagram:@shouldideletethat@em_clarkson@alexlight_ldnShould I Delete That? is produced by Faye Lawrence Music by Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello and welcome back to Shudder Delete That and Mike's Light. And I'm M. Clarkson. And this is our yearly roundup. Our annual. This is our third year. Well, we've been going long enough that we can call something annual now. Although, I don't know when the pre, I don't know when the, the amount of time has passed that you can just call something annual. You know what I mean?

Probably just two. You could probably just do it on one. Let's say three though because it makes me feel like this is an important It does feel important This is our third one This was the first ever episode we released

We released God, you remember What, do I remember? Do I remember all three hours of it? It was more Oh my God, it was so much Just we talked so much That was insane

2021 roundup was our first ever episode 2022, 2022 This is our four, Felix No Yeah Yeah I don't think it is No, it is because we started the podcast at beginning of January 2022,

very end of 2021. No, we didn't. Ignore me. Factually incorrect. We started 2022. 2022. I completely scratched that from the record. This is, if you're still with us, well done.

This is boring. But wait, with the third annual Christmas year review, year in review. Year in review. We're going for a lucre format this year. Much looser. And I'm going to be honest with you. It's because all of our research capacity went to the series coming out in the year. I actually turned to chat GPT for assistance.

I think our jobs are safe imminently. I typed in pop culture. I wanted pop culture news from every single month of the year and I did it chronologically. In four of the months, Blake Lively's It Ends with Us scandal came up. Right. Very elusive, according to AI. We're not sure when that happened, according to chat, G-G-G-P-T. It was long, though.

It spanned, according to them, it spanned a lot of months. Well, yes. And we'll get on to it. There's so much to get on to. We, if you're new to the podcast, this is the episode where we go back looking at the biggest news, pop culture and personal moments of the year. So without further ado, I think we need to rewind back to January 2024. Five days in, what are you up to? Oh, God, what was I up to?

Fuck, I can't be that snowy a year ago. I was having a C-section. I was giving birth. Absolutely wild. Fucking mental. Insane. It feels like so long ago. Biggest start ever to the year.

I mean, it feels a lifetime ago. Oh my God. I remember how it was so swollen. I couldn't move. Your pre-eclantic little body. I couldn't, big body. I couldn't open my eyes properly. It was all.

awful um yeah so i had a had a bang to the start of the year yeah huge start what about you i went to japan you did which again can't believe it was this year i with hindsight that was absolute insanity i took my 11 month old as she was baby to japan that's like with no adult supervision and all i can say is what the fuck yeah what the fuck insane i mean I mean, amazing. I'm so pleased we did it. But absolutely, it's wild that we did. And when I look back, I'm like, whoa.

I would lose my mind. I don't see you thriving in the, no, the environments that we created. Absolutely not. But I am. And actually, we actually alluded to it in one of the episodes we did with Chessie King in the summer and June. It was probably the toughest time of mine and Alex's marriage. And I feel like I can acknowledge that nearly a year on. I bet.

It was such a stressful thing to do. And having made all the. highlight reels and everything on Instagram. I feel like a sense of obligation to be like, guys, it was hard, but amazing, but hard. Yeah, I mean, I was coming to the end of my breastfeeding journey, so I was insane. And yeah, like, my hormones, I basically stopped breastfeeding during the day. So it, my hormones are sort of tapered off a bit. And then because Japan was obviously such a big change and like the time difference and everything, I had to feed her so much more to comfort her because she was like, why are we in Japan? So all of these hormones came like flooding

back and I was just in a rage a lot of the time. And I feel like traveling and rage go really well together. A hundred percent. Particularly as we were like moving every two days trying to pack our bags, trying to pack our bags, trying to pack toddler's bag. Honestly. But not a toddler, she was a baby. Thinking about going away for even a night with him is like enough to make me lose my mind. Never mind flying halfway across the world and traveling every couple of days. You should hear what Alex has got planned for next September. Go on. He wants this, is it next September the September after? I think it's next September. He signed us the Winnebago. Oh my God. We're off on a road trip. We're going to America. We're going to Montana. Oh my God. Or Chicago. He's just ironing

out the details. I'm like, we haven't even met this new one yet. Like all those are chill. We'll be all right but what if this new one's like home birdie i don't know what we're going to do or just fucking wild i know well it was a bit wild but we got into japan we did she walked within three days of us being home it would have been a very different trip oh my god if she was walking yeah yeah that would be horrendous yeah in you know sitting on the floor eating on the floor sleeping on the floor oh my god we snuck in just the right time but that was insane that was in january my anxiety levels are high even just listening to this news wise

news wise well pop culture wise tell you what came out end of December but we were still very enthralled in January and that was saltburn yeah

can you believe it's been a year saltburn fever as it was God so I really wanted to watch this and I saw a TikTok that was like saltburn like altered my brain chemistry I'll never be the same again

have you not seen it it haunted me so at the time I was like I'm pregnant I'm too vulnerable to watch this I don't want it to alter my brain just before I have a Maybe. So we watched it like three months ago. And I was like, okay, it's, it's, it's, it's disturbed. I think that might have been a bit hyperbolic. Yeah, I don't think it's going to alter my brain. I think I'm going to be the same person as I was before. I mean, it was brilliant. It was so brilliant. It was very unexpected. And at the end, and he was just dancing about with his wang now. I was like, whoa. Barry Keegan's had a year because he was in that shot to fame. And yeah, sort of, he was always famous. He'd been in. Bansheuven is scary.

That kind of wacky Irish film with Colin Daryl and Colin Daryl, Colin Farrell and your man, Brendan Gleason. Anyway, he's great in that. But he was kind of, you know, he was kind of a quirky indie actor and then he got that. Then he started going out with Sabrina Carpenter. I know. Literally, he was famous pop stars in the world. Apparently he's cheated on her.

Is that the consensus? That's what I'm hearing. But he's put out a statement saying that he's being trolled really badly and he, it's not great. It's not great. Oh, God. I know. I've jumped ahead a casual 12 months, but this is when Barry Keegan shot her notoriety. Yes, it was, it was. We had the Golden Globes and Timothy Shalomey and Kylie Jenner debuted their romance. Was that it? Was that the beginning? Yeah.

There's viral PDA. It's been an interesting year for, what do they call it? Is it rat men? Is that rodent men? Yeah, rodent men. Sorry, not ratmen. Roger Men, yeah Timothy Chalime Who's the guy who plays the bear The guy that plays the bear Yeah Yeah

Oh fuck what's his name What is his name? Jeremy. Jeremy Allen And Barry Keegan Yeah And Timothy Yeah and Timothy

Yeah all of them Have you seen Timothy Chalemay Lookalike contests And he turns up For November's conversation Excuse me No let's jump the gun

Let's go And he just turns up to them How sweet Yeah, I don't know, I find this all really, I don't know, I don't know, to be serious about it. No, but it annoys me that it's just like, we have all these, like, quirky men that we're like, yeah, we're really into rodent men right now. And it's like, well, no one's ever going to do an article about how we're into rodent women.

Do you know what I mean? Like, it would only ever be a thing to, like, criticize women or lambas women or whatever. This, like, celebration of like quirky, like quirky unconventionally good looking men. Like the same as the dad bod. Yeah, I find it. You never be celebrating a mum bod. Hell no. Well, see you in January.

Famously, you're not. We're going to be celebrating mine. Yeah. Yeah. Too right. Loudly. But you're right. We also have Travis, Kelsey and Taylor Swift.

Can I just be honest about something? You don't care. I just don't care. I don't think I even know what this man looks like. I actually don't know what this man looks like. And I don't mean this to be like, oh, I'm so against a great. I'm into indie bands. not mainstream. I just, I honestly don't understand why it is such a huge thing. Fair enough.

Is it because it's a likely pairing? No. This is just why you didn't get invited to the Taylor Swift's concept by any brands when every other influencer on the internet did. No, but I appreciate her artistry. Yeah, no, I know. And her song crafting stuff. I see the girlies are just happy to see Taylor happy. But the relationship is like, it's, um, it's like off the charts. The press are at the frenzy around it. It is coconuts, isn't it? Is it because he was semi-famous? He is super famous.

Yeah, he's really well-liked. He plays... I never know what the sports are that they play. Football. American football, yeah. He plays an American sport, the kind where you have to put like the stuff on your face. Yeah, the paint on your face and wear a hat or shoulder pads.

Anyway. Oh, not a hat, a helmet. Anyway, that's where he does. He's well-liked. can to someone. They won the Super Bowl, right? That kind of implies bowling. No, not bowling. What's it called? But baseball. Batting. This is... Baseball. We should have gathered our facts better. And also, most people, yeah, we don't even care for this pop culture news. I think people are just happy to see Taylor Swift, happy, but they're also fascinated. You know, she writes a lot

about relationships. I'm fascinated by her relationships. Yeah, okay, that's, that's a good point. I'm happy to see her happy too. It is nice. I just... I just... I just... I feel bombarded by her and not, I know they're not doing it to me deliberately. I just feel bombarded by the amount of information and pictures that come my way of them. Yeah. I just, I'm like, but yeah, I'm the odd one out, so no mind. I don't know if you are. But I get it, she has stands, she has serious stands and the relationship is a huge part of her life.

February. February. I've got the fact that there were a lot of strikes on in February. There were a lot of strikes. Rail and public sector strikes. There's been a general feeling of discontent that's run through, a red thread through this year has been the British public's discontent with the government, et al.

King Charles was diagnosed with prostate cancer in February. God was that in February. It was. I forgot he had that. They've not had a great year, blessed him the royals, health-wise. They've not, actually. Yeah, Catherine. And then Queen, Queen.

It's weird having a King and a Queen, isn't it? I don't really know what to do with myself. Wait, who's our queen? Come in there. People keep calling her the queen and I'm like... Is she a queen? She's a queen consort. Oh, I see.

Greece legalized same-sex marriage in February. Isn't it funny watching some countries come forwards and some go backwards? Yes. It's really weird, isn't it? Yes. That's... Isn't it, though, but that it was only made... In February 2024, but it was legalised.

It was illegal before that. What the hell? In Greece as well, because you imagine, you know, you think of the party. islands. You think of like, I don't know, I'm picturing. Yeah, exactly. Famously. Yeah. And a brilliantly gay island. Yeah. Huh. Slow on the uptake there, Greece. No. One point for trying, one out of ten. One star. Nilpoa. They're giving us something, but they're late. And it's not enough. I'm not compulsory gay marriage. Too little, too late. March, Putin won the

re-election. No one saw that coming. Were there over 87% of the vote? Yeah. I think you could have plucked a number out of anywhere there. Royal Family continued. Kate Middleton was diagnosed. Was that in March?

Well, she announced that she'd been diagnosed with cancer and actually pause to chat, if we may, about the internet, like, what's the word? I see it written down in a lot and I had to say it, Furo. Furo. Furo. Furo. No, furors. Furor is not right

F-U-R-O-R-R that's the one Furor Furor The commotion That's surrounded it You know me I can't move on now Hang on sorry

Furor Furor Yeah you know the Fuhror There was though Around And it's interesting The memes

And the jokes And then everybody doing that thing That they do Where they delete All their memes and their jokes when they find out that she was poorly. Yeah.

Because there was the Photoshop. Tobarcle. Scat. Well, yeah. Right. There was that Photoshop of her and her kids, her three kids. And everyone speculated that she had been photoshopped in. That it wasn't actually her in the photo that had been taken from her Vogue photo shoot from years ago.

And I mean, it was clearly a doctored image. But then they put out a statement saying like she put one out saying, I like to, you know, I'm like, sort of semi-professional. Yeah. You know, I like to edit things. I don't know. It's a bit horrid, isn't it? It felt really, it did feel icky when the diagnosis came out.

And I think there was like a collective ickiness. Yeah, everyone's like, oops. Everyone's like, oh, shit. Yeah. Because there was a lot of mocking going on. But I think there's always a collective, I think if this year's taught us anything, is it there's always a collective shit afterwards. It's like, I can't, mocking doesn't, it doesn't end very well.

Do you know what I mean? It's like we are ultimately reminded of someone's mortality and humanity at the end of the game. Yeah. And it's often not a very nice reminder. We're only able to dehumanize them for so long before reality slaps us in the face. I'm always struck though, even, you know, when people talk about Kate Middleton, it's like, oh, well, she's got private health care and she's got this. And it's like, guys, she's got cancer. Like, oh, come on.

Like, I still see the comments as it's like, oh, well, she's. she, you know, she's fine. Try having it like the rest of us. Try having it on the NHS. And it's like, oh my God, this is not the place to take out the anger. But if you follow that road all the way down, it's like, like there's always like privilege in absolutely everything that we do. Yeah.

It just seems a really odd thing that people feel compelled to comment on. Yeah. I don't understand it and it's, I just don't understand it and I don't like it. It makes me, I don't know. It just makes me sad for like the state of the place. Do you know what I mean? Well, yeah. I mean, we've talked about that a lot this year, haven't we?

Yeah, I just feel like that. It's just like this lack of empathy. There must be social media just stripping us of it. Speaking of lack of empathy, everything that happened around Liam Payne's death. Yeah, of course, which is October. Which we'll get on to. But yeah, I mean, and this actually comes up again in June with Jojo Siwa. And we talked a lot about the mocking of her.

Right. And they've just felt like some big public targets recently, haven't there? Like big butts of the joke. I think it's because of TikTok. Yeah. I think everything has the capacity for more virality because of TikTok. And they're just things are taking off. Some people weather the storm okay.

Like Jojo, you know, in the summer we actually talked about Jojo and Liam in the same sort of time period. And it was like we said of both, like, you know, these are young people. they're just people you don't know how this is going to go and it's like and jojo seems to be okay and she's kind of written it out which is remarkable considering how much noise there was right i'm sure it's not over for her but no it does feel like we just turn the collective like just target like sniper it's like having a like a long range thing and just turning it on somebody love it it's disgusting you're right it must be tick to i think Do you think it's creators? Do you think it's TikTok creators? What do you think it is that's driving

it? Because who is making this content? Is it the same creators or is it random people? Good question. See, I think a lot of the, well, it's true that a lot of the mockery and abuse probably as well lives in the comment section. Even if the creators, even if the videos aren't like overtly mocky or whatever, the comment section is just like full of ridicule. Like someone only needs to put a video up of JoJo Siwa doing the dance. I don't even have to say anything. They just put up a clip of her doing the dance and then the comments are just like, ah, you know, like it's my fault having an internet connection and da-da-da-da-da-da, you know, like tons of like Jo-J-C while you've ruined my life. I see a lot of the sort of content

that's like, girl, we need to talk about, you know, it's like kind of addressing. It's like a sort of like a sort of sassy call in or call out to the person in question. It's like Jojo, girl, like we need to talk about this and it's like what was that like what was the purpose of that and I find that because yes it's not overtly horrible but what are you trying to elicit by making it I think there are certain creators that like faux concern yeah or it's like I don't know I don't know if it's I don't know what's driving it but you're right and another thing to consider is that TikTok introduced long-form content in February this year. Right.

And I think that changed it. Which means that videos were longer than three minutes, were able to be longer than three minutes, is that right? So people can just make. Which is super interesting. I think TikTok is actually getting banned. Here? Yeah.

Oh my God. In the US. That's crazy. I wonder what that will mean for the world. Is TikTok getting banned? Is that fake news? Possibly. Nobody fact checkers.

Okay, the potential TikTok ban in the United States is nearing a critical deadline. What's it dependent on? So, it's the company that owns TikTok, a Chinese company called Bite Dance. And the US law aims to address concerns over national security and data privacy tied to TikTok's Chinese ownership. Super interesting. Because there was a time earlier this year where people were saying Instagram's done, Instagram's dead. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's just no way.

Instagram's absolutely fine. It would be super interesting if TikTok does go. It feels like Instagram has outlived. I mean, all platforms only have a certain, like, period of relevancy. Like Facebook, we thought Facebook would never go out. And now it's only used by like the older generation. I still quite like it. But of which?

Oh, yeah, the older generation. Boomer. But Instagram seems to have, like, outlived that, like, relevancy date that normally... It's morphed very well. It's taken the best components. It took the best components from Facebook. They're like, what's on your mind thing? It took the friend element, the close friends, which obviously, I mean, it's owned by META, by Facebook.

So that's not surprising. It took elements from Twitter with threads, which didn't take off, but it tried. And it's obviously taken a lot from TikTok. Well, their real section, which I get very sucked into now. Do you? Yes. I spend so much time on there. Yeah.

It's so addictive. It's terrible. It's like, yeah, I don't know what the, I mean, obviously, mostly very relieved of someone who's income is heavily reliant on Instagram. I know. Every time I see a thing about like, Instagram's going under. Yeah, I'm like, fuck. Yeah, because we did not diversify.

Yeah. Well, we've got the part. We are sitting here. We did not go on to TikTok, though. No, fuck that. I don't have it in me. It's just way too much work. But it's brutal.

It's absolutely, as a creator on TikTok, it's the way you are spoken about, I find very interesting. I think on Instagram, you build a community and, you know, we've been doing this a long time. We've had Instagram platforms a long time. If somebody leaves a shitty comment on my real comment, photo, whatever, generally speaking, the people that know me will ignore it or defend me. And that's kind of that. Or they'll spark it into, there'll be an interesting conversation, but it's always, it feels

very reasonable, at least from generally, you know, and I'm not talking about things going super viral and the other cells finding it. But on TikTok, I feel it's so cruel. The comments are just, and it's people that I sort of, maybe I'm just in a, I don't know, like sometimes, like I put up a video when I was in Japan actually and I didn't think about it. I just put it on TikTok because I just as I uploaded it to Instagram and I was like oh I'll put it on TikTok as well. I didn't think about it and I obviously check Instagram because I check Instagram I didn't take it. Well I went back to go and look at it on TikTok the comments were so fucking horrible. I was like just about me and all these people who don't know or I don't know that I just

just horrible comments about me. How rude. And I was like this is so weird not that like everyone likes me but like it's quite unusual in a comment saying. on Instagram for that to sort of be the general sort of consensus. I think this goes back to what we've spoken about before is like Instagram feels way more personal and intimate because it's like you have these followers who are connected to you, your audience is connected to you and they know that when they go onto their feed

they see people who they follow. So everyone has like a bit more humanity. Whereas on TikTok, you're just coming across random people. I would like hazard a guess that like 99% people, would go on TikTok, go on the 4U page rather than the following page. So you're seeing these people from all random corners of the internet and the world. And you just, and I think there's just less caring. But people are putting everything on there.

Like, I've divorced my mom. I'm four days pregnant. And it's, it's, I don't know what that does to our collective humanity to be, on the one hand, so vulnerable and then in the other so cruel. Having the vulnerability and the cruelty living so close together, I find it a very, very, like, paradoxical and confusing situation. I wonder if, like, the younger generation will just be completely desensitized. Do people being shitty about them?

Whereas we're not, you know. Well, absolutely not. No. No. Please don't. I mean, but I, I hope not. Like, it's not, I think it's a cruel thing. This make a joke of everything and this everybody's fair game.

As we've seen, it has, like, it has consequences. And we, we haven't. really seen the consequences of that on normal little people on normal kids. You know, we see it with celebrity children. We see it with like, but we haven't really seen it on like kids yet. Although we are to an extent. Yeah. With Jen Alpha. Gen. X. Oh no. No, X. You're, no, the X is above us. I think it's the Al. Gen Y. Oh, is maybe it. No, that's, that's that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, never mind. April, Arizona reinstated their abortion ban.

That was good of them. Sorry, I just went into the cheery there. It, they reinstated a near total abortion ban dating back to the 19th century. Sparking, which says everything. Sparking widespread political and social debates over women's health care rights, as it should. Also, in the same realm, in a world. April we had the man versus bear debacle of course of which I copped some shit a lot of shit a lot of shit we had a great episode on that actually we did yeah with farrow it does

feel I I've never known a year so felt that's felt so divisive like men and divided like men and women yeah it feels very intense a sure very intense putting on its head Baby reindeer was released in April. Was it April? Yeah. That was an interesting perspective. Very. Again, not great to see how it played out online afterwards.

What do you think how it played out? I think that he should have taken more measures to protect our identity. Yeah. Do you think that's his responsibility? No, maybe not. It's really interesting. But I think from a, I think given that at least how she was portrayed in the series

she was mentally unstable and I think given that I would have said that it would be important for people not to find out who she was because we know what the internet is like if it had been a female victim of stalking and the perpetrator had had mental health issues would we have wanted him safeguarded in the same way

honestly probably not no it's really I can't really work out I even admit that myself I probably wouldn't have had such a level have concerned. No. It's very conflicting, isn't it? Yeah, it is. It's very unusual seeing the man as a victim. And I think we were culturally quite, on the one hand, very accepting of it and of his story and of his truth, because perhaps if a woman had told it, we wouldn't have been so quick to believe her. But on the other hand, we weren't quite so good at accepting, well, I don't know. A woman as a perpetrator. Yes. And I did feel really sorry for it.

for her. Yeah, me too, but now you're saying it, I wouldn't have felt sorry for a man if the roles were reversed. Having had a stalker myself, who was female, which is an unusual situation in and of itself, I've always struggled with that with her gender, because it's like, you're not, you're not what I consider a threat. So it's very hard to see you as a baddie. And I don't mean baddie and like the, like the pop culture. Cartoon villain, like, you know, I meant baddies and like the, like, she's a baddie. Like, she's sexy. I didn't mean like that.

Yeah, that's so interesting. And I wonder where our ethics are as well with, you know, Pierce Morgan doing that debate with her. Debate, not just debate, interview. Yeah, I thought that was really bad. Did you? I did think it was bad because. Unethical. Unethical of him to do that because.

Because. I mean, it was clear that he was, obviously, he was. just, he was exploiting her and her situation for... I actually felt, given the context, he did quite well with it. He, I thought, journalistically, he, like, covered all bases and he was quite, um, he remained quite gentle, gentle, but ultimately, it, it was clear that it was a woman who's not of, like, great mental health. And I don't, we would not have given a man on that platform. No.

And she's sued, she's suing Netflix, she sued Netflix. Hagee. Yeah. And I don't know how that's gone. It's obviously all quietened down a lot. He won a lot of awards and her public recognition, as he should, as a victim of crime. And he's right to tell his story.

But it's a really interesting one for us to unpack, yeah. Because until you challenged me, I actually hadn't, I hadn't, thought about whether I would give a male victim so much, offer them, like, so much compassion. I know, I wouldn't. No. No, I don't think I would. And I keep saying this to Alex, you know,

like we've been talking a lot and we'll get to it, but we've been talking a lot about Greg Wallace. And the idea of inappropriate comments and how the difference is with men and women. And I keep coming back to this, like, well, there's this underlying threat that comes from a man. It doesn't come from a woman, which does just change the game a bit. And it changes our boundaries.

But it's really interesting to try and work out where all of our boundaries are. And they're all different, which is the right. And shifting. 100% makes it so much more difficult. May. April, before we move on. Sorry. I ran London Marathon.

Oh, my God. How could I forget? I'm so sorry. Thank you so much for giving me the opportunity. I'm so sorry. To talk about it one more time. I ran London Marathon. Pregnant, no less.

Yeah. unknowingly but pregnant nonetheless well done congratulations god that seems like years it's a different lifetime different body it really does it was in cyprus when you did that Jesus yeah your absence was noted I know I'm so sorry Davey silly I was busy um that was the last time booked and busy that was the last time I was myself that was the last time I had a spring in my step and you had non-hitchie gleaming my eye yeah because things went downhill personally quite quickly in May after some amazing good news and then obviously the HG kicked in a week later and we're into May we are into May so there was no good news from May Bridgeton was released

Bridgeton was released in May and Nicola Coughlin was the protagonist of this of this season she's a sexy gal she was a leading lady sexy gal and my god there was so much commotion about her being plus size. People talk about mixed weight romances, which we discuss in the upcoming body image series. Love her. Love her a tort. She had moments. She had brilliant moments. I have a question. I have a morality question that I've seen the internet cross with her for. After Bridgeton was released, she did a campaign with skims, which I thought Slay. Like so cool. Get it like an Irish actress. She's obviously, you know, her body's been the topic of a lot of conversation recently. She was incredibly vocal in her support of Palestine. She's been an amazing sort of

person. Like, she's been very revered and respected all year. And I think she copped quite a lot shit for doing the Skims thing. She did. For lining herself with the Kardashians. Oh, fuck it. Fuck it. That's exactly what I do what she wants. My God, like what a big opportunity. opportunity for her to partner with skims. Like, it's one of the biggest brands in the world now. Yeah, agree. Okay, I don't know if that's like... I mean, pop culture. Yeah, yeah. It's huge. Yeah, it's absolutely enormous. And like, why wouldn't she? Okay, I'm pleased we share this. Take the opportunity and run with it. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Also, we want diversity in these shoots, in these campaigns. We are calling on kind of the Kardashians consistently. Do more, do

better do more do better they do better and then we're all like but not that not like that though girl and you've betrayed you've betrayed us all by doing that campaign and blah la what do have to argue that it's not like breaking the boundaries of breaking the limits of diversity but yes compared to the Kardashians a hundred percent yeah agreed we had a quote unquote unquote normal quote unquote quote unquote quote unquote quote unquote quote unquote quote unquote quote unquote quote unquote I don't know why we say that doesn't make any sense at all. Yeah.

Air quote. I've said it now. We had a normal body in a skim's dress. We did, yeah, fuck it. Let her do what she wants to do. Yeah, also, like, make that money. And also, everyone made such a big deal

about her body, like such a huge deal about it, but she couldn't move for questions about her body. Let her make money off of it. 100% let her make money. Everyone go away. Yeah. Thank you.

June. Brat. Brat summer. We had a brat summer. Well, yes. Brat Summers were had, I don't think either of us had a Brat summer. Well, it told me like two months to work out what Brat actually meant. All the girlies, I went away in August to France with my family and all the girlies were brats.

Bratting it out. Yeah, my dad's girlfriend's two daughters and son's girlfriend, they're young, trendy, brats. And my sister, of course, yeah, brattie. Gen Z. They had like green and nails and bikinis. Yeah. And they're brats. Charlie X-E-X, obviously, it was her album, the Brat album.

She had her moment. Yeah. And she partnered with Billy Elish. Loved. Loved. I've loved Billy Elish's sort of like queer, like sort of switch up in music and style genre. So cool. So good.

I love her. I love her. So good. I really like her music as well. Billy Elish? Yeah. She's incredible. And her brother produces all of it.

Her brother is so tough. They're equally. talented. Extraordinary, isn't it? I don't think my brother and I could work in that capacity. When she's talking about, I could eat that girl for lunch, like I want her dancing on my tongue. I think if I took those lyrics to my brother and I was like, hey, could you put this to a sick beat? He'd be like, no. I would be more worried about you, the singing aspect of that would be the least of my worries. Asking my brother to, to put a theme tune to my sex stories. I was like, push them to the side. Yeah. Could you, could you knock up a

melody for this for this little thing that I'm working on. Oh, it's so good. I loved that. And we did have our tour, which we can't. Yeah, we can't skip over.

Can't skip over. You were really ill. I was hospitalized a few times over these couple of months. You were very ill. I feel like it just kicked in. Yes. The first one I was hospitalized

was in between our two tour dates. So we did it in two halves. We did the first half at the end of May. And then we did the second half in June. So that week in between, I was not well. Not well. And then the week we got back, I was not well again. You powered through it all.

Was it amazing though? It was genuinely amazing. Extraordinary though that was this year as well. And so many people met as a result. I know. Which is the coolest thing. It's the dream. It's so cool.

We have plans for next year. It's been hard to make plans for next year. year. But we do have plans and hopes. We do. And we learned a lot from the tour that we did. And I think something that we really felt was that you guys wanted to meet each other. And actually, the show is not the best environment for that because we're talking at you and you don't get a chance to talk with each other. Yeah. You're just like a shoulder to with people not opposite them. So something we'd like to, and we're looking into doing next year would be something a little bit more immersive and it gives people the chance to actually connect.

like a pub quiz. Yeah, that's the dream. How fun would that be? I would love to do a pub. We wanted to do one this Christmas, but I'm going to be honest, guys. Yes, it's not happening. Not a chance in hell.

It's not happening. No, I haven't gone to the pub or done a quiz in my personal life, the idea of organising it on for work. Would have killed me. Thank you so much for listening to the first part of our 2024 in review. We'll be back on Thursday

to cover everything that happened from July to December. See you then. Should I delete that as part of the ACAST creator network?