Should I Delete That? - Andrew Le Page on Love Island or whatever...

Episode Date: November 21, 2022

This week, Em and Alex talk to former Love Island contestant Andrew Le Page. His very public misstep and subsequent apology went viral as he uttered “I sucked on her tits or whatever…”. These simple words sent the general public into a tailspin while Andrew, living in Mallorca with the UK’s most eligible singles and no access to the outside world, was completely oblivious to the frenzied response. He shares what this was like, opens up about his relationship with Tasha, and enlightens the girls with some production secrets (our fave!).Alex and Em teased this announcement on socials, and you might already know what’s coming, but listen to find out what exactly it is that they’ve been hiding!Follow us on Instagram @shouldideletethatEmail us at [e-mail] & edited by Daisy GrantMusic by Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Hello, and welcome back to Should I Delete that? Hello, I think I'm just gone in my teeth. Cooked the softening and I thought. Hello, happy Monday. Did you just fart? I didn't, but it sounded like it, didn't it? These, these, now I can't recreate it. Now you can't recreate it. But these, these benches are super squeaky. And whenever I make the mistake of wearing leather on them, it's not good. I find myself, like, we're speaking to guess. I'm like, I can't move my legs because it's just like, I like, I, eh, eh, yeah. I like that you wear leather so much that that's a consideration.

Yeah, yeah. That's my life. That's my life. But life as a dominatrix, yeah, exactly. Has its perks and it's not being me. I understand. Can we share our good, good. Yes, we have a joint good. Oh, sorry. Go, go. No, you go. No, you go. go. No, no, no, I don't want to go on. Okay. Should we say it to get there? Well, how are we going to say it? Okay, one. I don't think they heard that. Okay. One, two, three. We're doing a live show. I didn't mean that. No one's going to come. Oh, God. Listen to this shit. It's absolutely disaster. I meant show. We're not doing a live tour. Sorry. No, we want to do a live tour. But it really depends on how the show goes. Yeah. We're testing the waters with a live show. And yet, maybe we can take.

it to tour. How cool would that be? To tour. We'll take it to tour. Allah, Taylor Swift. Honestly, that's what I'm expecting for the announcement, guys. Truth be told, we wanted to have it ready for today. That would have been good. That would have been organized. That would have been... Not on brand. Yeah. That would have been nice, but obviously it didn't happen. So, yeah, this is not the announcement that we thought it was going to be, but it's an announcement of an announcement. Yes. We're wetting your...

Do you want to know something out? Guess how many people were on the Ticketmaster website when Taylor Swift announced her tickets? 700,000. That is the saddest underestimation I've ever heard. I don't. 3.5 billion.

There are not that many people in the world. Billion. There are 8 billion people in the world and 3.5 people were trying to get Taylor Swift tickets. That's just not possible. So almost half of people in the world. 3.5.

billion by all accounts is she that big well by the account i read apparently so she crashed ticket master like every like i mean i know we will too yes no doubt yes no doubt but yeah god i mean i've seen it all over instagram she ran so that we could walk no we she yes she yeah yeah yeah yeah i like that i enjoy that we will break the internet i have no doubt but that's a lot of people. That's a lot. Maybe we might only have 3.5 million, maybe.

That would be sad. Yeah, I just need to confirm. Because Alex told me that it was 3.5 billion, but now I'm doubting him. Ticketmaster cancelled. Fridays plan ticket sales to the general public for Taylor Swiss, 2023, U.S. concert tours,

3.5 billion ticket requests from fans, bots and scalpers overwhelmed the website with demand. So 3.5 billion hits. Wow. just they wait until our tickets come out but also I'm so happy for Taylor Swift I'm so happy for her because like everybody fucking hated and shut on her for like ever and ever and now look now look yeah I don't know we really I don't really know the story behind this did we not like her

and now we do is that what's happened no yeah no one liked her but this is like yeah yeah no one liked Taylor Swift because she was like the pretty girl who was always singing about I mean she was a bit of pick me at the beginning what was that song uh she wear a shorts skirts I wear T-shirt, she's cheer, captain, and I'm on the bleach. It's like, all right, good for you. Like, but, you know, we're all problematic. Anyway, but, yeah, she was young. She was young.

And I think, yeah, like, everybody didn't like her because her music was really girly and silly and whatever. And, like, I think the way the press wrote about her was that she was always, like, with other men and, like, you know, like, always, always writing about her heartbreak. And, you know, she's just been, because she's been, like, publicly single in dating and, like, yeah, she's just given a really, really hard time. And a lot of people didn't like her. I was totally one of those people but it was like, I don't like her. And then I was like, why didn't I like her? And then I sat with it.

And I was like, it's because the press have literally shot on her forever. Like every article that was like, she's, you know, even, she was 19 when Kanya did that thing at the VMAs and took her. Was she 19? And it's like, and, you know, still like, you know, her reaction was so watched.

And it's like, hang on, this isn't her fault. Like, she was just like, oh God, I say things with such confidence on this podcast. I know. That sounds really young. She was 19. She was fucking 19. I knew it.

And I watched the documentary, the Miss America documentary. And when I watched that, I realised, like, she's just had so much unfair pressure on her forever. Anyway, so now I'm like,

in the words of Jesse Jay, who's laughing now, 3.5 billion, baby. Because, you know, then she had, like, the Kardashians and everyone, like, turn against her.

Yeah, and Kanye West. Yeah, again. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, she's a teenager. She's a teenager that just

her first award and she was so sweet and excited to be up there and she was just from like you know somewhere in a little cowboy boots just yeah Nashville I don't know yeah that might made that um we do digress and we do digress and we have massively digress the point is guys we're doing a live show we're doing a live show in london coming coming out like now today tomorrow Wednesday who knows we're not going to we're not going to stick a date on it because you'll hold us to it so this week tomorrow this week this week keep an eye on our Instagram

we're aiming for tomorrow if we're aiming for tomorrow which is Tuesday okay and we're sorry that we're like this okay we're sorry that this is what we are like but it's it's it's it's cool we're dead excited London the 12th of November it's going to feel like boo

Oh, my God. Wrong day. Monday, the 12th of December. It's going to feel dead Christmassy. We're going to have some drinks if you feel like it. It's going to be fun. It's going to be festive. Actually, we can't promise festive.

But we can't promise fun either. I'm promising fun. I'm promising fun. I've been known to break the promise. So I'm just going to say it. I'm just going to promise fun and I'm going to hope for the best. It's a venue. It's like, and if you want to come on your own, come on your own.

because I think lots of people are going to come on their own you don't have to bring a friend particularly when they'll be like no who are these people like we'd rather you came alone because we don't want anyone feeling left out and everyone's going to look after you that's the rule if you want to come

you've got to be really nice to everybody else and it's going to be super deep of fun our mum's coming don't know it's your mum coming my mum's coming my mum's coming my mum's bringing a friend she's really excited oh no my mum's not won't be here at the moment at that time but yeah anyone

anyone that's coming on their own should DM us, DM on Instagram, should I delete that, and then we could put you in touch with each other so you can come together. Stunning. Love that. Because it's not nice to walk in somewhere by yourself. No, it's worse. The venue's so cute. It's so cool. It's so cool. It felt way too cool for us, but not complaining at all.

They also offered us a drum kit. They were like, hey, what do you need? What do you need for the setup? Do you want, what do you want? Mike's chair, whatever. Do you want a drum kit? Do you need a drum kit? I was like, yes. I mean, we have a superstar drummer in our midst. It would be really sad not to have one. I cannot think of anything more awkward and embarrassing. Oh, and now the drum kit comes out and what I just stand over and like give the symbol smash.

Like, it's not happening. No, no, don't win the surprise. Anyway, guys, that's our good for the week. We have our, we have a live show. And if it goes well, we might take it on tour. If it doesn't, forget you heard that. This never happened. Okay, have you got anything bad for me that's actually happened and not just a hypothetical?

No, I've got no bads this week. Yes! No, I'm in a good mood. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've got two goods. I wish I'd call a party popper. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck, yeah.

I'm switching out my bad for a good. Fuck yes. My other good is that I'm freezing eggs finally. Yes, you are. After so long, like, I've had my mind made up about doing this for so long, but my body has just not played ball with irregular periods, cysts, like, follicle. bleeds like it's just been it's just been chaos in there in the womb the uterus cervix whatever it is i don't know get i'm still confused about the anatomy and the whole process my master my thing that confuses me the most is what do men have there instead of the womb just think about it all the time

like do you just have empty space oh my god i've never thought about that all the time i'm like what what do you have there that is never ever come into my my conscience A sizable area, you've got a womb, you've got two ovaries. Euterize. Yeah, you've got the tube going down, cervix. Yeah, there's tons. There's a bunch of shit there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So what do they have? Oh my God, I've never considered this. Empty space or all their organs just a bit bigger. Man spreading, that's what they're doing. Their organs are all just man spreading all over the place. Legs are king, though. Women are just so used to just being like little sardines, even in our own bodies, but not them. I never thought about this. Their kidneys are just like spaying out.

I need to see an inside of each body now. Okay, fine. Yeah, let's just head to George's, George and Thomas's hospital after this. Hi, we just need just out of curiosity. No, we just need two dead bodies, please. Can I have a rummage? Yeah, I just need to have a look. Interesting. Yeah. So, yeah, sorry, you're freezing your eggs. So yeah, finally, finally doing it. Don't know what the outcome will be. don't know

you know and as I'm telling I'm telling people just because I am and you do get a lot of people like I've had a lot of people saying to you it's not guaranteed to work

and I do know I know it is really annoying because I'm just like I'm in a place where I just want positivity and if it doesn't work it doesn't work but I just want positivity How's it been sharing it? I didn't think you were going

I don't know I'm proud of you but I didn't think I was going to but do you know what I've been going a few times so blood tests and scans and they haven't worked and I just didn't really want it to be I felt like

I don't know I felt uncomfortable with the whole thing in it being like a secret and also I've got nothing to hide with it so I mean if this might go completely wrong and I do another one and I won't want to share it because it's like I'm getting you know I don't know but it's been like for the most part

really good apart from people saying it's not guaranteed and like sharing their stories with me. I know I didn't mention that I know. I didn't do any of my own research. I just showed up that, oh, what? It's not like every single appointment I have. I get told you've got low, avarian reserve. Like it's not going to be easy. I'm like, I know. You don't have to tell me that. I know that. But I also don't need to think like that right now whilst everything is at the moment, okay. So. I'm so proud of you for this mindset. It's incredibly positive. Yeah. Yeah. I do. I feel very positive about it currently. But the 5am injections start tomorrow. So I might change my mind. So yeah, that's my good. I'm finally like getting going with it which is great and do you feel good like

how are the injections is you've had to stab you've been stabbed twice in the evening so far by your husband like unflinching it's weird literally he's been waiting for this he's so stabby

and just like so psychopathically calm with it I don't like it he's got those kind of eyes he has isn't it yeah it gives off a vibe and also he just like does it pulls the leaders out and he's like

puts it on inside like I've done now I'm like you just you're going to take me up for dinner first put something right in me entering me, just no foreplay, punctured me. No manners. I know. No thanks. Bloody hell. I need to be thanked for this. Yeah, quite right. Yeah, it's fine. The injections are fine, yeah. You have to take a steroid in the morning, which is, um, makes me feel a little bit high. But that's fine. It's not the worst thing ever. I actually, I think you've been in the best

nude the last week or so than I've ever seen you. There you go. That's what it will be. Yeah, we're not going to knock it. So yeah. So what's, what's your bad? Have you got bad for us? Oh, oh, yes, I do. This is so gross. This is so gross. This is just bad for humanity. What? It's just a bad planet.

It's a bad place. I don't want to be here anymore. Also on the area of Vajuns. So I saw a La La La La Let Me Explain story last night. Right. She shared a TikTok video. Yeah. Which is an ad.

Yeah. For something called. Oh, God. The drip stick. Okay. It's not good. Oh my God, what's a drip stick? I'm going to show you.

Sounds like a tampon. It's way fucking worse than a tampon out. Okay. So the drip stick, the advert is about 85,000 times worse than you might think when I described this. Okay. So I'm going to describe this horrifying object. Yeah. And the advert is 85,000 times worse than you think it is.

Really? It's that bad. Okay. So the drip stick, it's like a lint roller, the size of a tampon. that you put up your fanny after you've had sex to absorb the semen. The semen. No. I can tell you've been

in clinics because you call it the semen, not spunk. Seaman, a spunk. But yes. Oh my God. Oh, my fucking God indeed. Oh, my God. And I saw it and I just thought... Ew, the drips stick. The drip stick. But the advert for it, I just thought, I can't live here. Like, I can't...

I, this isn't okay. Wow, I did not know anything like that existed. I wouldn't have thought there'd have been much of a market for it either, but hey. You'd have been wrong. Oh, clearly. Hang on, let me, I need to show you the video. It's so, it's so bad. It's so, I will put on the Instagram and it'll probably be removed immediately, quite rightly.

Okay, that was probably a horrifying thing for your senses. But the advert used a donut. Yeah, a cream donut. that's disgusting to show they shoved the drip stick into a donut and she said to clean up yesterday's fun I'm like so you mean to tell me that you're going to get stale spunk out of there

because I'm sorry what if you're going to use it immediately well that's what I assumed well quite rightly because what how has she walked around or is she laying flat on her back well exactly for a day until someone's arrived with this essential

products oh thank god you're here i've been stuck on my back it's like if it's a drip stick it's only gonna drip at the at the time yeah we're not gonna you don't hoard loads up there it isn't just it's not like just a whole bunch of sponge just sitting up there i just i can't believe there's a market for this yeah yeah maybe there is i don't want to i don't want to i don't want to shit on anyone who this might be very helpful for no the thing is this is just more of the same shit of like just the amount of what do they call it just all these products that are made to like balance the pH of your vagina and shit and it's just like no

no one needs this stop trying to make products just for women it's like the pink tax but worse it's just like you're just creating problems people have been fine since the dawn of time you just have a peeve after sex those are the rules we all know that you don't want to stitis get it out you don't need a little bit yeah so that's my bad

that is a bad this day was terrible I feel quite bad after watching that I feel queasy before I went to bed just put me right off donuts and I was in a good place with donuts me and donuts have been vibrant It actually made me want a donut. That's fucking bizarre. I know.

Anything awkward, apart from the fact that you want a donut? Yes. Yes. Yesterday. So yesterday I had a break in between my meetings and I went to a Joe and the Juice, which you know, because we tried to have a call in there, and literally the music was so loud. Sometimes she's at a Fat Boy Slim concert in like 99. It's so loud in there.

I'm obsessed with Joe and the Juice because I love the bread that they make the sandwiches on. It's like this rye bread that you just can't get it anywhere else, and I'm just obsessed with it. I love it. But it's working from there is you're in a nightclub, basically. Anyway, I was... Gen Zia is everywhere. Do you think that's why the music? I don't think so.

I'd say, Joe and the juice got millennial. I would say millennial, yeah. We fucking love a juice. Customer. Yeah, yeah. It's the bribe bread that you can't get anywhere else. Yeah, you. Me.

So I was sitting there and I was like, something feels like not right in my heart. or my lung, not heart like emotion, like, literally physically. I was like, I've, like, the waters, the sea, ice caps are melted. I feel like something sort of dropped and I'm getting like a murmur or I'm getting like a something because like it's not feeling right and it's, and it's having this horrible like vibration in my body and I was like, fuck, something feels really wrong and I don't know, I was, I was in an anxious place yesterday anyway and I just kind of went with it and I texted

of my mum and I was like, mum, something feels really wrong in my heart. Anyway, an hour of this went on and I just resigned myself to the fact that there was something probably wrong but I was just not going to find out or I just put it on the back burner a little bit. And then the song changed in Joe and the Juice, right? And I realised that what I'd been feeling was the bass of the music. It was that fucking loud, right?

Can we please see the text that you sent to your mum? You know, when you're in a club or a concert and the bass is so loud that you feel it in your heart. That's what it was. Do you know what's happened to you? What? You've got a hold. Have I?

Yeah, I've got a hold. If you're feeling the Joe in the Juice music in your heart, then yes. I think it's safe to assume that you are old. I think the table and the chair I was sitting on was like vibrating so much because of the bass. Your frail bones. You just couldn't take it in the way that you're not as hardy as you once were. I felt very embarrassed when the music changed and like the beat.

changed and the beat of my heart of my new heart moment just changed and I was like oh right okay that was not what I thought it was that's sad there you go so there you go that was sad that was sad very awkward how embarrassing idiot idiot

I don't know it's it's it's air pod noise cancellation as well great coming very handy but make you think there's no music just the heart moment oh shit yeah you couldn't even hear the music no just felt it yeah wow yeah so That is tough.

My awkward is also to do with my air pod. I actually had so many awkwards this week, just so many little mini ones, just nuggets of just myself. One of them, I said on my Instagram story yesterday when I was reading my own book, and I was staring at this word, this sentence for so long. I was like, what is this word? And it was lied, but I was looking at it,

and I was trying to make Lied a thing. I thought it was French. I was Googling it. I was asking Alex, I was like, what's Lied for so long? So that was awkward in it of itself. then two days ago I did a little Instagram story on the tube and I said

oh it's so sweet the schoolboys just offered me a seat on the tube who was reading over my shoulder the school boy obviously so they were both quite bad and then I poured my coffee over myself last time we were recording on Tuesday absolute gold also not good

but all of that has just paled into insignificant because today I think the worst the worst thing that's like literally ever happened to me happened this morning it's on the escalate coming up out of Oxford Circus tube. Yeah.

My airport fell out my ear on the escalator down. Oh no. It didn't go down very many. But in my head I went through every single hypothetical situation that made it way worse. Yeah. You can't go down an up escalator. No. You can't get to the top and just wait for your airport to meet you.

You can't go down to you because of other people. It's so bad. So as it was happening, it happened in slow motion. And I had all of these thoughts. Like, I was like, oh my God, this is. this is literally the worst thing that can happen to a human because there's no way

that this is going to be okay and it went as okay as it could have done in that like it went two or three steps down and a nice man was like all your airport's here I was like oh my God

but it's like imagine if it had gone any differently imagine if it had kept bouncing imagine if I like there's not I'm loving the visual of you just waiting for your airport to meet you at the top

I've been in the way I've been in the way like rule fucking one of the underground get out the way I hate people like old people and tourists when they just standing at top of the escalator. I'm like, move.

Oh, do you know what? That reminded me actually, there was a woman. I spent like five minutes at a tube station trying to get this poor old woman onto an escalator. She was terrified. We must have missed about a hundred steps. And I was like, this time, this time.

And I was like, no one is that? She's been stood there. No one's helping her. She just bless her. I literally had to shove her on the escalator at the end, but she was fine when she got on. I was like, we just have to take this step. We just have to take this step. Come on. It's one more step for mankind. We're on, bless her.

Bless her. But it is, I can imagine it's very scary thing. She doesn't have been an escalator before. I don't know. She was quite old. Because dogs don't like escalators. But I had to carry her. Yeah.

Yeah. She climbed to me like a tree. Yeah. It's pretty cute. It's nice to feel so needed. It must be scary for them. Of course it's scary. It's scary for me.

They're a ridiculous thing. Yeah, they are, I suppose. They're ridiculous. Yeah. It's just like these terrifying metal stairs. Yeah. They literally have teeth. they're just like this is spiky

and they're just going and like and when you I always think it's so interesting when you go on one and they're not moving but you feel like you're moving anyway it's so weird it's discombobulating

yeah it's like doing one of those brain challenge things on Instagram but doing it in real life it's like why my legs so heavy yeah it's so weird why am I finding these stairs so hard they're just stairs

yeah and I close my eyes they're just stairs they're not no they're so thick aren't we humans we're so thick It was so stupid, so stupid.

I think that sometimes, then I said that to Booer yesterday, I was like, she was being so stupid. And I was like, God, I'm like, why are you so stupid? Like, I can't even remember what she was doing. She was just doing something. Then I was like, this, you're better than this. Why are you doing this? Come on.

And then I was like, to be honest, she must look at me all the time and just be like, you're so stupid. Like, what should just go in and out of the same room, like 50. There must be a million things dogs watch humans do. And they're just like, why? Absolutely. Do you think they think when we're sitting at a laptop, that it's like we're playing with a toy.

Oh my God, I've never thought about it. I wonder what the fuck they think we're doing. Or even when we just lie and watch TV. Yeah. Do they think we're asleep? Well, no. Do they even think? Do dogs have...

Of course dogs think. Yeah. But dogs don't have concepts of time which really stresses me out. Like when you leave. Yeah. They don't know if you're gone for an hour or for 15 years. They have no concept of time.

Seriously? Yeah. But also, they're not talking. taught time. We only know time because we're taught time. We're taught seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, months. So we know time. Yeah, but surely they must have a feel for like you've been away for a minute or you've been away for two hours. I don't think they do. My mom always tells me this, which puts me in a massive spin. That's freak me out. My mom's such a Gemini, though, because she spends half the time telling me like, don't put your emotions onto a dog. She's just a dog. Don't put your emotions on. Then the other half, she's like, oh, my little babies. Oh, you're so close. Oh, you're so close. And they now have night time treats, morning treats. She gives them all. When she has her vitamins, she gives them codd liver oil tablets.

So they have their, right, right. Don't put my emotions on to build her. I hope that's not true that you shouldn't put your emotions onto a dog because that ship has well and truly sailed for me. That poor dog is literally, she's full of anxiety and emotions. She's literally like, she was like 15 kilos. She's just like, no, probably not. She probably weighs that anyway.

Fifty kilos of emotional baggage. She's heavy. Yeah. Dense. She won't go out in the. the rain which is really really something that we're struggling with at the moment you know what you did to the old lady on the escalator push them out i just feel so bad for she's just sounds like shaking she's like please can i come back in she's like please can i come back in she doesn't want to fuck about like she doesn't want to be out there but i'm like well you're not coming back in till

you've weed and they're not stupid she works that out we've got our new code she looks like inspector gadget in it and it's so sweet and every time put it on like it's very cute um um okay um we've done We've done it. We've done it. Okay, we've got a great guest this week. Oh, we have got a good guest this week. We have a man. We have a man on the show. We do have a man. So we have Andrew Leapage from this year's Love Island, who is now famous for his quote. Licked her tit or whatever. I know. It's literally like when it's like we've basically got Oscar Wilde on the show. We, wow, we really have. Yeah. We really have. One of like, what a coup. What a coup. What a coup. What a coup. What a coup. brainy quotes don't know what hit it this is actually a really good interview we have never considered the conversation

from the male perspective of Love Island to TV so that was actually really cool to have that conversation about stuff that men might be insecure about or just hearing about it from someone that isn't a woman basically yeah yeah it was a really cool conversation and he showed us his new tattoo as well which we're going to put in the trailer so make sure you watch

the trailer I think Al was hoping it might it'd been somewhere a bit more fun. She was like, come on, show us. Show us. I did feel a bit weird, being like, do you mind showing us your tattoo? And he had to take his top off and I was like, oh God, I'm sorry. And then he had to take his trousers off and boxes. I've got us to know about it.

There's a whole thing. I'm getting, I'm getting. Anyway, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely did not happen. There was no indecent exposure. He's a really, really, really nice and sweet guy. And actually, with a really, it seems like a really good head on his shoulders.

And I think he'll. Oh my God. You're so old. You're so old. I am. You're so old. Why? because your heart hurts in Joe and the juice.

You want the rye bread that you can't get from anywhere else. And you've just described a nice young man from a reality TV show as having a very good head on his shoulders. He does. He seems and feels very grounded to me. He's just out of Love Island. He's like really at the top of this like wave of this roller coaster. And I think he seems to be handling it and taking it all in his stride and fuck I am old.

Anyway. This withered old, this withered old mare that's been around the block a few times. She knows what to look out for, and she's impressed. So without... Such a boomer, right. Literally such a boomer. Okay. Okay, well, from me, the boomer and my Genzi friend,

thank you so much for listening. We will see you on Thursday. We love you very much. And hopefully see you at our live show, maybe. Maybe not. Hopefully we'll see someone. Sorry, for the hypotheticalness. Bye.

Bye-bye now. Hi. Hi, Andrew. Thanks so much. for coming in today. You are our first male Love Island contestant. Yeah, we've had a couple of girls on. We've had Shauna Phillips and Amber Davies from previous years.

But we've never had a male perspective on Love Island, so it's quite exciting. Exciting to be the first male on it? Yeah. How are you doing? Yeah, really good, thank you. Yeah, really good. Are you still, like, riding a wave of craziness since coming out of the villa? Only, wait, it was a few months ago now, right?

Yeah, yeah, I don't know, it's like three, four months ago. It's just gone so fast. It feels like Love Island was ages ago. But, yeah, it's just, it's been so good, so good. A lot of fun and just, you know, everyone, it's just been so positive and nice. So, yeah, it's been good. Is it everything you imagined it was going to be coming out, or is it even crazy? I think even crazy.

I think, like, going to premieres, things like that, it's just, like, and seeing all these people that with a full love eye and I wouldn't have a chance for getting near. So it's just, yeah, it's mental, it's mental. Yeah, I always feel like it's like it's like, Cinderella but I don't know I mean again we've spoken so many times to to women about this in like reality and the reality TV and then coming out afterwards to like the deals and everything and we were talking before but what's quite about what you were doing

before but what's quite interesting is that you had like your full career and business and then you do you feel like you've given it up or like and do you feel like you've put it on pause or like because you were working in Dubai yeah real estate yeah and you just you're like Bye, we're going to go and find loving me orca, I'll see you in a bit. Literally, I left and I still had the job. Like, after it was, like, they kept the job open. And, like, when I went back to Dubai, I had to actually go into the office and, like, cancel my work visa and stuff like that.

But, no, I think, like, definitely, like, the dream for down the line would still be in property and do, like, property developing. I think that would be, like, the end goal. So it's, I think it's on pause at the moment. But, yeah, definitely something I want to pursue, like, later down in life. that's quite smart I don't know you like that's quite a common criticism isn't it of reality styles it's just like oh well you just gave up whatever because realistically and it's probably different in Dubai and it's probably different in property because of selling sunset

and it's like completely like changed the game yeah I'd say before like you know in years gone by if you worked at like the town hall like Shauna Phillips didn't she she worked for the town council it's like you can't go back like when you're so famous all of a sudden you can't just be like back on the tube like back hanging out of the water cooler like oh what's new well i'm really famous now but apart from that nothing um so that's kind of like i guess it's quite sensible and it's quite a good like rebuttal to have for people if they are going to criticize you for doing reality tv that it's going to be really useful for your career probably yeah definitely definitely it's something that

i've got experience and yeah i can use what i hope well use like you know not the fit not fame but like who i am like the following that i've created and can definitely help like in the future for sure, like who I work with and stuff like that. So, yeah, it's good. Yeah, you could transfer it to, like, I'm obsessed with TikTok property. Yeah. And, like, people that go around and show all the houses.

Like, the big ones, the tiny ones, in-betweens is so fun. You could do that. Yeah. I see that for you, actually. I think, like, people, like, I'm nosy, aren't they? So when they see, like, something, like a little clickbait of, like, an amazing house,

like, everyone's going to be interested in seeing it. It's like, that's something. You should do a selling sunset here. I would love to. Yeah, my God, Jason Oppenheimer. Yeah, that would be so cool. I'd love to do that. Because there's nothing like that here.

I think it's just Oppenheim. I don't know. Well, Daisy, can we take out the... Anyway, very broad, very broad question. But what was Love Island like? I think everyone had their own journey for sure. I think maybe some people got it easier than others. I think for me I found it it was tough it was yeah it was it was it was it was it was

like you know watching the girl you like like talking to other guys it's just like on the outside wild you're like well see you like if you're going to do that you know yeah but it's where you have to just accept it and it's part of the process and you've got to just be like trust the process trust the process but it's tough but ultimately at the end I got what I wanted and like the last two weeks were for me like amazing yeah like those two weeks I was like I actually don't want to leave because it's like I felt like it's now a lot of fun like enjoying it so the first four weeks or six weeks well five six weeks it was hard but still there was so many great moments I think like what the viewers saw was just like the love part and the drama

but like there was a lot of times where you're just chatting with the boys and you're chatting a lot rubbish and it's just a lot of fun so there were a lot of good times but it was tough at the same time yeah we see such a small snapshot of the life that you're living but that's actually that comes up most seasons is that it's the friendships that stand the test offer more than the relationships like it's like the boys or the girls make I don't know like the duo like him and Chris or like Molly May and Mora you know like and you see these friendships that last for ages which is really nice but something that show got a bit of like a hard time for this year was kind of like how the boys spoke when

the like everyone got together like i guess i don't know about girls oh what there was like what times where the order boys were speaking yeah but it happens every year when it's just like when it's just like the lads get together and i guess it happens in every friend group i guess it happens all the time but i don't know like were you aware that that was being because i always think you know the channel 4 show sun sex and suspicious parents and the kids do something outrageous and they're like and then their parents are there and they're like oh i didn't know my parents were going to be here but it's like of course you knew parents were going to be here like your MTV are with you so did you was that something that when you're like talking to the boys or like whatever it's like you know your

mum or your dad or your friends are watching at home so i think yeah there were like yeah there was obviously times where we knew we were being filmed but there were also times where for example when after dinner like the girls would go get ready like they had like two three hours to go get ready and the boys would be outside and just chatting rubbish but like we knew that couldn't be ad oh really yeah so why can't it be aired because it's like the girls are i don't know like the because then it shows that the girls are away for two hours yeah wow but like so yeah that's when you say the really bad shit yeah no i think like we're just we're just like lads aren't we just boys just talking rubbish but no we were i don't know what i have not watched it back so no no so i don't

know what's been shown. Well, there was one quote that you must have seen back that you said. Like, because I didn't watch Love Island, but this year, I don't know why. Like, I was just throwing up most of July. But, yeah, you, you came through, like, you got out of TV and came everywhere, like on everyone's psyche with your... Yeah, I know. At the time, obviously, I had no idea that that's going to blow up. Did you not? No, not at all. And on the last day we had after sun come in and like do a morning debrief of like gave us like what to say like usually it's just whatever we say but like it was for after sun and like they had a whole script for us and my line was like yeah me and i can't remember exactly but the ending was like yeah me and tasha are great or whatever

and i'd say or whatever at the end and i said to this person said why am i saying like or whatever this doesn't make sense and she was like trust me it will and i was just like okay i just i'll say it and then on the final they showed that clip of what I said and I was just like I get it now so it was it was funny when I saw it was it was yeah but yeah I didn't realize it it blew up until like I came out I think that's the hard thing with socials is like it just everything is meme worthy yeah yeah you can just see like what you can blink funny and you're a meme it's like oh damn it yeah it's it's quite a catchphrase to have though if you ever did like I don't know whatever you do next you have to put that catchphrase in somewhere

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that felt a bit brutal and that you struggled with coming out of, like, Peter, you felt... Yeah. I think, no, to be fair, it's all been a lot of love and a lot of positivity, to be honest, for me. So, I think, yeah, I must, I don't,

know what people were saying whilst I was in there I've not I've not looked I'm not searching for it but I think like obviously me and Tasha had a bit of a journey but like I think it was like cinema night I think we just that's when I we did like a 180 like I think everyone then started to get on our side so yeah coming out of the villa I think me and Tasha been very lucky and I've had a lot of love and people were being like you should we should come higher or something like that and it's like we won anyway we got we got each other that's what matters so yeah it's been it's been good it's been But obviously, they're always going to be trolls always.

So, yeah, you can never please everyone. Does it get to you? I mean, yeah, I'm human. It will get to everyone, I think, like, whether you admit it or not. Yeah. But, yeah, you have to just kind of ignore them. And I think the important thing is not going to look for it, because if you look for it, you will find it.

I mean, that's the same for, like, not just famous people. That's the same for everyone. Like, if you look for shit, you'll find it. yeah. It's actually really good to hear men talking about the troll thing because I always assume that men don't get trolled but I guess that's wrong. Oh no no, definitely. When you get told, is it by men or by women? Um, men actually. Yeah. Yeah. I actually had someone say, I can't remember what he said exactly. And then I went on his profile and he's following me and I'm messaging about like, why are you following me then? And he goes, oh,

actually I love you mate. Like, I'm just like, okay. So weird. So weird. It's just like, usually I'd never ever reply, but I saw this. And I was like, oh, I'm just going to reply. Why did you follow me then if this is what you think of me? Yeah. And he's like, oh, actually, I love you. Like, no, I have a crush on you or whatever. And I'm like, okay.

You have missed. This is not hassle. It doesn't make any sense to me. This is not the way to hit on me. Yeah. There were other avid news about it. Yeah, it was a bit strange, but yeah. You definitely, you seemed like, because you and Tash were like at the bottom of the public vote.

a lot, weren't you? And you seem to take that quite well. I think it got to Tashire more. Oh yeah, yeah, definitely got Tasha. I didn't think, I didn't, it's hard to say it, but I didn't want to try and care about what other people's opinions were outside. I think, like I kept saying to myself, they see 46 minutes out of 24, like 24 hours of a day.

Yeah. And, you know, the producers have to, like, betray us in, I think in a certain way to get a storyline. And I think for us, it was just like, you know, Tash was getting to know other people. But she was doing the love island experience. And I think, obviously, people just didn't like it or whatever. But, yeah, ultimately, yeah, we got, yeah, we weren't like to begin with, I assume. But, yeah, at the end, we did a 180 and, like, we came out.

And everyone was like, yeah, you could have, could have come second or could have come first. That's really good, like, self-protection that you had when you went in, knowing. that knowing what the producers because I think that's perhaps probably the best thing about the current seasons of Love Island is that the people going in you're much more aware of what's happening I think right in the beginning it's like a complete

head you know for those who went in at the beginning like a total mental health headfark but did you have like help from the producers or was it help from like previous contestants or did you just know you know what I mean like to know that stuff to knowing that it's so you just kind of pick up on it because like

me and Tasha would be good but like other people might be arguing but they're somehow you know voted like good and all that it's just like well this to me it doesn't make sense yeah you just have to like not think about it not worry and just type like get through it and you know I was there for Tash

and yeah definitely got to her but I think she yeah she literally like was thinking oh people hate me and like she felt like she couldn't like say her side obviously you can't in there um so yeah I get why she was upset, I completely understand it, but yeah, it's just for me I just had to like think, yeah, don't worry, like, you can't control what people are saying, just control what's in there, what's going on in there. Someone who got it really bad trolling was Cocoa when she came out and she's spoken about that a lot about her.

People have been really brutal about her appearance and it's just savage, like so horrible. It's horrible. Like, yeah, I just don't get why people troll in the first place, but yeah, yeah, it sucks. Being with Tasha, do you think that she has it worse than you do for trolling, or is it kind of equal? I don't know. I know she does get upset of, like, a few things. Like, obviously, with her being deaf, people, like, speak about her voice, and, like, I just don't get it. It's horrible and...

So unnecessary. Yeah, it's just not right, and it's just, yeah, I just don't get it. So, yeah, I think she might, I don't know if she gets it more, but I don't know if she goes looking for it or whatever, but yeah, I think she takes it to heart a bit more. Yeah, there's something definitely to be said about, like, the way that men and women take criticism. And I always think, or experience trolling,

because I always think that maybe women get it more, but then I think maybe that's just because I'm a woman and I speak to women, so that's the experience that I have. but then the way that you view it is so logical and then it's like it doesn't really matter what people think of me and I'm not going to go looking for it and it's just like God that's inspiring because most of the women listening probably are just like

well I can't do that and I think that maybe that's something in the way that we're brought up even and I think women are more conditioned to want to be liked and stuff whereas maybe men it's kind of easier to just be like oh well fuck you but then Tasha does have a lot bigger following than me so

does she? Oh yeah yeah yeah how many does she have I think she's on like 1.5 or something like that Yeah, so just by sheer probability. Yeah, probably, yeah, it's more. But I think, like, even when you're, like, you post something, you're scrolling through and you're seeing, like, lots of nice comments and you just want to see them all and, like, reply to them,

and then you're bound to see something, like, while you're doing it, you're bound to see someone, and then it's like, ah. Yeah, so you're going to see it, unfortunately, which is annoying. Have you kept in touch with Cocoa at all since? No, I mean, I saw her at the reunion and I said hello. Yeah. But other than that, no. Is it all friendly?

Yeah, yeah, of course. course yeah yeah I'm friendly with all of them yeah no I would never have not got a bad word to say by anyone to be honest so that's good yeah that's good it did seem like you all got on really well yeah I think we all did in the villa like yeah we all really got on quite well there wasn't really too there was a few arguments at the start um but other than that it was we all really got on to be honest I have to ask because this was something that I was really intrigued about when you were in the villa were you all aware of the like how much everyone was obsessed with Echin Sue and Davidae. Were you aware of that? Yeah, absolutely. Really? How did you

know? Because I was wondering, like, because there's this like cult following, like, everyone was just like obsessed with them outside of the villa, but I was like, wonder if they're aware inside. Yeah, definitely. We knew. I knew they were winning. Really? Yeah, literally. Even when me and Tasha got voted forth and we sat by the crowd and the crowd, like, speaking to me, like, who do you think we're going to win? I'm like, obviously Ekensoo and Davide, like, wow, without a doubt. And that's sort of results of them getting like 63% all the votes. It's like, yeah, of course. I'm not surprised. But no, I think

they're just, I think, obviously I think they're just made for TV, those two. They are, aren't they? It's a drama. I don't know, sitting on the yellow bean bag and wanting to cause drama, like that. Yeah, they're just made for TV. They were great, though. They were entertaining. It was actually quite nice for them to be

in a villa because it's like we can sit back and just watch them unfold. It's like something's going to happen tonight. Well, you know, like, the thing that I think I'd be most nervous about, not the TV, not anything, but it's like going in and like, making friends. Like, and just, I don't know, meeting all these new people. It's kind of embarrassing, the first bit, and then the girl stepped forward, like when you walk down. That happened this year, didn't it? No, so this year, it was the public that put us with our partners.

Who does the public put you with? With Tasha. Oh, okay, okay. That's nice. That's really nice. Like Cupid. Yeah, it's really cool. But, yeah, no, when I walked out, literally.

I was standing next to Laura and I had to keep moving my feet because my legs were literally shaking. But it's so not because like it's awkward because obviously with TV it's a lot of like nothing happening. Like they're getting shots and you're just standing there. Obviously this is the first time I've ever experienced. I'm like, what is going on? Like say something, Laura. Yeah. First time you ever like been on camera, right?

She's just standing there. She's like and then she'll say, I've just got to get shots. I'm like, okay, right. Oh my God. Whilst the girls are watching you, the whole time. They're all just looking at me dead silence. I'm just like,

this is so awkward. That would kill me. I'd be like making bad jokes. I'd be like, oh. Yeah, I just want to like, yeah, hurry up. Oh, that's so bad. But I guess it's weird as well because that bit's super produced

and then ends produced in that like, you know, you've got like Laura there and you've probably had that with the fire pit as well. Oh, yeah. The fire pit takes three hours. Fuck. Yeah. Do you, if you say you're like lovely thing and you like, balls it up oh yeah you can redo it can i can i can redo that yeah you can ask to redo it's

a couple things right number one i am desperate for someone just as a joke to like say all these amazing things and then like say someone else you know like say not the partner with just as a joke and i'm like why does no one ever do that you know or as a joke yeah just be like actually yeah most of the time if you're doing that it could be someone coming home going home oh yeah good point so like we have to be yeah so like there's a lot of times where we were laughing around the fire pit and then the whoever was on the microphone like guys be serious like someone could be going home tonight and I'm like oh yeah true oh they say that to you yeah yeah they talk to us all the time how really yeah how where does the voice come

from oh there's speakers all over the villa all over all over all over outside the garden big brother no it's worse it's like black mirror yeah they they can like choose where to speak come out of the voice as well so if like I was in the fire pit and someone else was all the way of and then wanted to speak just to me they could like whisper and go Andrew. Oh my god that's scared that shit me up a tree yeah yeah yeah

they're like whoa Andrew come and talk to me yeah she's like Andrew come to the front door okay what happens at the front yeah what happens then what do they say you speak to like one of the producers or that would that would terrify

that's like we're called to the headmaster and what will they say would they be like oh you need to go chat with yeah they'd have a chat with you or just how you're getting on how is it going with this person? Do you want to get to know someone, like anyone else? Yeah.

Just to get, obviously just to like get some info out of you and then they can tell the exact, I guess. Is that what you expected? Did you expect to have that kind of level of intervention? I didn't, I didn't not expect to have like producers come into the villa all the time. Like for lunchtime they came in, for dinner they came in and then like if there was.

Yeah, they don't eat with us. We never see you eat. Yeah, I know. Did you? The boys and the girls have to sit separately and there's no villa talk, there's no, you know, talk with the girls and can't hug them or...

Because they want to save all the chat for when they're actually filmed. Yeah, because it doesn't look pretty, I was eating. That's so funny. Yeah. I'm always saying that. I'm just like, what I think? It's like, well, we were talking about it

like James Bond and stuff. You never see James Bond Pee and you never see Love Islanders eat. Yeah, yeah. There's a too certain. It's so, it's so weird to like, if you just watch it, it's so weird to imagine that there are people

in the villa like yeah did you did you feel like they were pushing you like one way or another to like do stuff did you feel

I don't know I think for other people they might of and like they did like they need like a storyline so like

for some people they you know they they like got them to hold off the chat like for me I had to hold off the chat with Luca at the start

for like a day and a half um and stuff like that why there was something that's like I had said and I realised I like messed up on what I said and I was I was literally going off over to tell him like by the way I said something to someone and I got it completely wrong

and I was going over there to do that and they were like Andrews Beach, Andrews to the front door and I had to hold off that chat no way for like a day and a half that's so awkward that was that was like week one and I hated that because it's like for me I always want to get something off my chest and I was and you live with the person as well and And like, you know, obviously, like, I don't know what he's thinking, but he could be thinking, oh, this guy is a, you know. But are you allowed to say to him when you tell him the truth? By the way, I wanted to tell you yesterday, but I was about it.

Yeah. Yeah, because you just, like, whispered to him, I'm really. But this was the first time that happens and not, like, you didn't, you didn't know how it went. Yeah, but, like, yeah. So there were times where people weren't allowed to speak to, like, certain people for a little while. Yeah, that's a lot. That's interesting. Yeah, so you're not going to watch it back.

You don't want to, like, see. Oh, absolutely not, no. No, no. No, no. Maybe in a few years I might do, but nah, I'm good. It's a lot, because you can't do anything about any of it. Yeah. And did your friends and family watch it?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And do they talk about it? Yeah, every time I see them. They want to know the gossip and stuff like that. Because it must be quite weird, like knowing you as a person. Yeah. And then you go in and you're still you, obviously, and you want to be like true to yourself. And it sounds like you were and you are.

But you're still having to be produced even a little bit. so I wonder like I don't know I would find that a bit odd like watching somebody that I loved kind of acting as they would but then sometimes acting maybe not as they would I don't know I don't know because I wonder if you're like I don't know if your family are watching it just being like bet he didn't want to say that like whatever yeah probably definitely I think I don't know I think when I came out all my all my mates were literally like really proud of you and you were you know you stay true to yourself and you were really genuine in there so did anyone rip into you before you went in for going Oh yeah, yeah, because I had Tom a whole work lot in Dubai

And they were literally, they were buzzing And they obviously like, you know, Love Island and all that But no, they were excited, they were buzzing, they watched as well Am I right in thinking that you were a bit older than the other boys in there? Yeah, I'm 27 Yeah Most of them were like, I swear like all of them were like 23 in there Really?

Yeah, I swear like all of them were 23 So, I mean, not a huge That makes me feel old, because it makes me feel old, yes But I, Davidae, J, they were my age. Okay. And I think Echon's 28 or 29 now, I don't know. Ancient by Love Island standards, Jesus. But most of the people that came in were 23.

Like, all of the castor, boys and girls were, I think they're all like 23 and younger. That is, I mean, because that is a big jump. Like, you do mature a lot in those, like, a few years. What I was like at 23 is a completely different person. I always say I didn't know my ass from my elbow and I couldn't have been on TV at that well I could have been it was just been a fucking disaster like I can't even imagine

and yeah I think it was it was like quite clear the ones that were younger and like maybe struggling to like manage their emotions a bit more and manage the situation and I did I did feel for them actually because I mean I can't imagine I can't manage my emotions at the best of time like being on TV

it's tough in there as well because you cannot escape so yeah emotions like even the smallest things it blows up like massively because it's just like you can't escape it yeah and you kind of confronted with everybody else's emotions as well but I don't know I'm a bit like a cat sometimes like if I'm really upset so I wanted to say they take themselves off to die but I don't want to go and die I'm not going to die I just want to take myself off to just be like foul and then I'll come because you always say my mood changes so quickly and so I have to remove myself because I'm like otherwise I'm going to lose my call here and then it's going to be a whole thing but you can't you haven't got anywhere to go

so you just have to leave you can you just be like give me an hour I just need to go and die on the roof and they'll come back yeah there's like a few times where I went up to the the balcony yeah and I just like I lied there in the sun for like an hour and that's alright

you're able to do that yeah you're not for too long because they'll be like Andrew can go back to the garden or something like that but that would do my head in yeah and then like you can go out to the front and speak to someone so and then obviously you do

get a Zoom call which you can request any time we'd have one a day oh that's so good with like not therapist but like oh I thought you meant your family like people back at home no no okay

like a doc not like a dog yeah yeah a psychist yeah that's it you'd have a talk with them once a day okay that's nice but like you can request to speak to them like whenever you want though that's really good but it still seems so mean that you just can't talk to the people back at home I know. I think who was it? I think it was, I can't remember who it was, but one of their

mum's birthday and like, they asked, can I send a message like, happy birthday, don't have to speak to him, they're like, no, unfortunately not. That is, that's so mean. I thought that would have been all right. Because of course you can send a message. Like, why not? It's not like you're getting information back. My mom's birthday as well when I was in there as well. As well, who was you. I remember, obviously, whoever it was before, I remember they couldn't do it. So I was like, ah, there's nothing. I said happy birthday, but. we didn't get it. Oh, that's so annoying.

That's so mean. Yeah, that's really mean. And sometimes, like, when you're up, and when you're going through, like I imagine it's like emotions on steroids there because you're doing, like you said, all these weird situations where like the girl that you're fancying is literally in front of your face.

You're in a very confined space talking to other people and like working out whether they're better for her than you. And like you have to go all through it. Like, your emotions are just so high. And like, while it's great that you've got psychologists to speak to, like, you probably just. I just wanted to speak to your mum at some point, you know. You just want to speak to someone back, like, her room.

Yeah, you just want to go to the pub and be with your mates. Yeah. Yeah, it's tough, but yeah, you've just got to be like, you know, test water. If they're better for you than, fair enough. Did you ever think I'm going to leave? Oh, yeah. Oh, did you? Oh, did you?

Really? Oh, yeah, yeah. Did you ever pack your bags? I didn't pack my bags, but there was times where I said I'm done, like, I'm done. Really? Honestly, yeah. I don't die a lot of times. It's hard in there, but also, I'm very glad I didn't leave.

Did you try and did someone stop you? Yeah, the night where I told Tasha, what I did, the iconic moment, I did walk, because Tasha was fuming, obviously, and I walked out and I was like, I'm done, like, there's no coming back from this, I'm done, I'm done, I'm just, I'll go, I took off my mic, I'm done, I'm done. But she was just like, luckily she was, the girl, Emma, she was, she talked to me and she said, look, it's best to go, we're back in there at least explain yourself and you know that's what she would want and you know

so i thought but it did take a lot of convincing because i was done i was like there's no coming back from this but i'm very glad that i did go back yeah so good because you left on a high then rather than leaving like at such a low point and that's hard as well whatever because if you come off the show you kind of lose your like the certainty of the platform because you obviously still do have like your social media following and like and you do still have the interest in you but if you leave halfway through

I guess you don't know how many followers you have how people think about you so at least when you go out at the end or you go out with your couple you've kind of like you're not on your own with it because it must just be like a ton of bricks

yeah I would yeah honestly I would not want to come out alone I think it would be so it would be tough and I'm glad I came out of Tash And we've got, I think, like, we have each other's back, which is like, it's so nice. And if you don't have that, is, I don't know, it must be pretty hard. But, yeah, I think, yeah, just coming out with Tasha was, yeah, really good. And we just have each other's back, which is so nice.

Because it's such a unique situation, but you're not doing it alone, which is even more unique. Because most people, they get famous, do do it on their own. And then their whole family, like, who are you? And what have you done with my child? Yeah. But at least you can, like, do you work? I don't know how to word this. But, like, obviously, you're like balls to the wall.

You've got to go and make the most of this. And that's what everybody says when they come out of the line. You have to, like, ride the wave, basically, until the next show. But do you, are you doing things to try and keep yourself grounded? Or is it, are you just being like, all right, I'll come back to you guys. I've just got to go and, like, pursue my dream and career for a bit. I don't know. I feel like I'm quite a chilled out loud anyway.

So, I mean, I like my alone time. Like, my downtime of just chilling watching TV. So I feel like I am quite grounded and then like Tasha is out every day like doing so well. So like I think it's nice that I'm, I'm there for her more than anything that I'm just there like already quite chilled and just, you know, just talk to her about a day and just get a mind off it to try and get her off her phone. Because yeah, you're kind of have to be on your phone a lot. Yeah, you do. But yeah, no, I try to do like a few things every now and then, of course. but yeah, no, I feel like I'm quite chilled out loud anyway

and just try and stay chilled as much as I can. With the work thing, and you don't have to answer this, you don't want, it's just a thought that I've never spoken to a male influencer about this. Again, when we've spoken to women, it's been that the brand deals are kind of like heavier for the women when you come out. Yeah, all the girls have absolutely smashed it this year. Did you know that? Did they warn you of that?

I don't think they warned us a bit, but it's pretty obvious. I've watched Love Island before, like all the girls that, you know, they get their deals and they kill it but i think all the girls this year have done so well yeah absolutely amazing um so yeah you kind of have to i mean yeah it is what is it's the industry isn't it yeah yeah so it's what it is it does it ever annoy you if you like living with i don't know if you're living with because you've done you you're kind of working the same you come out the same you've done the same shit and then just because it's one area that probably literally the one career that women do it's easier for women than men probably um no

It doesn't annoy me. I'm super proud of her. Like, she's doing so well. So, super proud of her. Obviously, I'd love a brand deal. Like, there'd be so cool, like, something that I like. So, yeah, that would be, that would be so cool. I hope to do the dream one day. But, yeah, no, it doesn't annoy me at all. I'm so proud of her. She's smashing it.

Didn't you, we've heard that you've got a tattoo? Yeah. Can you tell us about it? So I've actually got two, so I got this one a rose, because obviously me and Tasha, our date was literally like thousands of roses. So I got that and then I've got this one here which is American Sign Language for I Love You, like that, sorry, and then with her cochlear implant like wrapped around the finger. So, yeah, no, she didn't know I was getting that, so I just thought it'd be like, you know, something for Tasha, like, you know, I love her a lot. That's so nice.

That's really cool. That's adorable. I love it. I love it. Yeah, I like it, yeah. It's good. Has she got one too? No, not that. She's got the rose, but like here.

Oh, you guys. I know. You and Dave need match. I need one. We, we. We, we're sold. Don't even. I'm in. I'm in. What are you thinking? Or whatever. Or whatever. Yeah. I don't know. It would just be like, you know, those like balls of chaos and it's just like squiggly lines. I'd say we'd get a microphone, but every time anyone brings a microphone to a while, she goes, but they're very phallic.

I don't know if we can have that now also it's a bit knobby it is a bit knobby and it's like hey I'm famed I'm in the entertainment industry I have to talk into a microphone people really want to hear what I have to say no it's a really cool tattoo

that's really lovely that's very nice jumping around a little bit sorry but I want to ask you like because I'm so fascinated by the behind the scenes stuff I'm so intrigued what was the like the thing

that surprised you most about going on there and actually doing the experience as opposed to watching Love Island um what surprised me the most i think what surprised me the most was there was a lot of waiting around yeah a lot of waiting around i didn't think it'd be like that like for example like the fire pit like we'd be sat there for three hours i have a question so sorry go on you know when you um do the challenges where it's like you like yeah the challenges where you go to the place

and you all run in slow mo yeah yeah what's it like running in slow moat i mean i presume No, I know, presumably you run in normal speed. But like, do you really have to like, fuck, I... Oh, no, I'm just a jog. I can't run in it because of my knee. So I'm always, I just always, always at the back. Like, I can't run anyway. So it was just a little jog.

But sometimes we'd have to do it like three, four times. And there's no music, right? I remember Sean are telling us, there's no music. No, there's no music. There was music for the, not the talent show, the dance. Not the dance. The strip. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. There's music for that. Oh my God. What was that like? that was actually one of my favourite nights was it oh yeah what did you do i came out as like the roman like fighter like gladiator okay okay yes i came out like that but i had like these shoes on that not shoes but like they were like beauties yeah but like you don't actually what they were like strap on so like they were like falling off off walking but no but no i loved it that was so much fun

like obviously the like the girls all of them smashed it like they were all so good and then the boys we were just like, we have to step off our games. Like we were obviously we're in the room getting ready and we were just getting so like pumped for it like we have to smash this. Yeah. It was a lot of fun that night. That would be brutal if they didn't give

you music for that. I can you imagine? Was any of it awkward? Like not necessarily that but the other challenges and stuff like if they're waiting around with them or are they pretty quick? No, there's some of them like if we for some challenges there was one challenge that we just did really easily

And they were like, oh, this obviously isn't going to look good on camera because it's just too easy and nothing's happening. So we had to wait around for a while to try and for them to make it harder and stuff like that. But any awkwardness, I think, not awkward. I don't know if it was awkward, but it was just like, it was strange when Danica came out as a bombshell at a challenge. Like, and we were all just, like she was dancing, but like I said, no music. Oh, no.

And we're all standing there and we can't say anything. was like, uh, what is going on? Oh, there was no music. But, like, she killed it. She just so much. I know. Yeah, because I remember that. And, like, on screen, it looked insane.

Yeah. But, fuck, it's awkward. Obviously, there was no, there's no music. There was no music. So she's dancing. And there's no slow-mo. And you can also hear, like, when someone's dark, like, you can't hear the movement.

Yeah. Yeah, they're, like, squeaking their arms. Honestly, like, hats off to her. Because I would refuse to do that. I'd refuse. It's like, fairflayed to her for a lot. Yeah, I would fly. saying about the dancing how about and I feel like maybe it's worse as a woman because it's

kind of easier I don't know maybe you just have to do more oh the dance when we had like a party night literally four songs or whatever and we had to dance and like obviously we've come out and we're all completely sober and we have to pretend like we're this is amazing like the music's so good you can't like I would die honestly like we're literally can this be over now You need to watch it back just for those clips because they will be worth it. Yeah, I bet they look really good though. They look so good. Slow-mo makes so much fun.

Slow-mo makes anything look amazing. It's always like fairy liquid and you're all like running and it's just like... And the kisses in slow-mo and everything. So it's worth it but it must just be excruciating to do it. It's like they would be dancing but right, get into your couples and like, like Andrew and Tasha you'll turn to dance in front of everyone. It's just like, you know what Tasha's a dancer so are. it was lucky like Tasha just looked good and I just stood there and just like did a little bit of

whatever two step in but uh no it was so awkward yeah that's brutal in there was there a sense of whether it was like unspoken or not was there a sense of we need to not create some drama but like keep up drama because we're on a TV show and we want this season to do well we want this year to do well was there a sense of like we need to like bring it I think we were doing it anyway like honestly on nights where we I'm pretty certain we were literally told to go get ready for bed and then suddenly something something would kick off and that like because usually there'd be like a challenge a night or we'd just have a quiet night of just talking and but like there would always be drama yeah always be drama I think we were just very much a drama

yeah um but like I remember I don't know if I should say this but Casa Amor we got like the boys got taken out the villa to speak to like the producer like because we were just we weren't listening to the people on the mic we weren't listening we were doing what we want yeah the voice of god we weren't listening to them and they got very annoyed at us so one of them came up we like took us out the video and we're like boys what you're doing you need to listen and at the end he goes right I shouldn't tell you this but this is an incredible season now don't fuck it up really but like in what sense weren't you listening oh like because it Castro and more girls were out there and obviously boys being boys we were just like all of the boys were excited

or whatever like yeah um so like we'd go outside or we were we were meant to do something and voice god would be like telling us what to do and we just ignore it and just carry on doing what we wanted to do so yeah we were just like so yeah they just got obviously so annoyed us so they brought us all out to tell us off kind of but do you think that like being told oh it's a really good season do you think like that for like some people maybe like I think that was like sparked a bit of like oh shit we need to all the boys went a bit mad that night but a bit silly but yeah I think that kind of we we knew we were doing good but like when he said yeah don't fuck it up now like we're like okay we're doing well so I don't know

kind of like I don't know we were just like yeah we're off to do it right then yeah because I always I always wonder if people are thinking like because it's like I mean I doubt you what I know you didn't watch it but like real house wives like those Bravo shows like they know that they have to they have to like bring the drama so they create the drama and it's all like very high octane and you know and i always wonder in love island whether there is this pressure of like i've got to do something good i've got to do something like tv worthy and you know i don't know i think it does it it just happens itself because because we're literally in a villa there's no escape it's every every tiny little detail is intensified hugely

we just have drama we weren't ever told you have to go cause this I think there might have been times where like they might have said oh I would go have a chat with this person and it might cause a bit of drama but ultimately I think like we just

it's hard not to have drama in there because everyone is living with each other 24-7 we've never met so dramatic as well like you literally like you're pulling like oh it's so much because you pull everybody out like all your all your insecurities and stuff you just got to like park them

and they do all this and then put your heart on the line because that is like fundamentally even if you are playing a game in there you do still have to like have feelings and like socialise and you don't want to be a dick like I guess you don't actually want to hurt somebody else and that's always a consideration because it does hurt people

like even when you choose one person someone else goes home and that's kind of yeah it's horrible but it's not your fault so it's just like of course it's dramatic it was body image a much of a consideration there like obviously you've got to you there is a lot of pressure beforehand to like

be in like this certain shape you know you've got to be like for a guy you've got to be like mega ripped and you know we've heard like we spoke to Shawna who said like she just basically didn't eat before she went in and like there is so much pressure did you feel that and did you

did you like what was it like in there like body image wise was that like a topic of conversation Not hugely. Obviously, you had Davidae, Charlie and Jay, who looked like Greek gods. So I think me, Luca, me and Luca, I mean, I went to the gym a few times,

but like mostly our boys, we just didn't really care. Like, you've got those in front of me. You can't really compete. Like, they were just out of, yeah. You've got a dog personality. But, no, I think, yeah, obviously before going in, like, I definitely was training. and when I was in there, you know, there'd be days where I'd be, like, pissed off.

And for me and my, my, like, thing, I'd go to the gym. Yeah. So, yeah, I'd go to the gym quite a lot. But I don't think, like, we really spoke about it, like, oh, I should be like this. I should be like that. I mean, we would speak about, like, what's your training routine and stuff like that. But, yeah, I can probably, I mean, yeah, I mean, maybe for girls it might have been. Like, Love Island is, like, over the years, the boys and the girls that have come in is just,

just, yeah. Cardboard cutouts. Yeah. Even in unreal shape. So, yeah, it's, yeah, I guess there is a bit of pressure. Like, there must be. There is a pressure. Definitely, obviously, before I went, and like I said,

I was training hard, like, trying to get in shape. So, yeah, definitely. You've got to, that is definitely on your mind. Were there any insecurities that you took in that, because I don't know, they're like, I don't know, it's just quite exposing, isn't it? Like, just doing the show in general, having everybody look at all of you.

Was there any of it that it was just like, oh, I could just do without this? Or like, I just, I don't know, is there anything when you went in that you were just a little bit nervous about that was like in your mind? Or were you just pretty chilling? I guess maybe, maybe my chat in being sober and talking to girls being sober because obviously usually you're talking to girls on a night out. So. That's so true. Yeah.

What if you haven't got a chat? I've never spoken, like, tried to speak to a girl so over. I mean, obviously you have, but not often. Not making me. Yeah. And you've got like, all your mates are going to be listening to your chat and sober as well. Oh, that's brutal. Oh, my God.

Did you practice before you were in? The boys did, like, have a laugh for that. We said, oh, my boys are going to rip me for this. So, yeah, I mean, not, like, insecure or anything, but it's just, like, that's different, like, not something I've ever really done before. So, yeah, I guess that a little bit, but it's what it is, like, I think to have the courage to go in there

it's pretty mental, so. Yeah, I'd fine, I wouldn't. Literally, I mean, they're not asking me, I'm married, I'm pregnant, but still. Absolutely not. You did get asked? I did, yeah. Did you? Yeah, like three, when was it, three years ago?

Like, yeah, 2000, I can't even remember, 19, maybe? 2019, what season was that? Did you know all our glamping units have a resort, quality, Canadian-made, and eco-friendly bed? Since day one, we have proudly partnered with Colonna-based match. company Haven, ensuring you have the best sleep possible. So it's just one more reason to visit us in the Boreal Forest. You can also try out a Haven mattress risk-free for 100 nights at havenmatress.ca. I don't know, but I have been with my now husband for 10 years.

So it's been a pretty non-negotiate for a while there. I nearly did. I thought about it. It's like, how badly do I want a rindrover? if I were to have said yes and I was telling you that I was going on next season if I go on next season and what one piece of advice would you give to somebody who was going on it next year? I would say stay true to yourself

don't try and be anyone you're not and just you know just you know yeah just be true to yourself and go in there with an open mind you know it's you know you could find someone you might you might not just go in there with an open mind and just stay true to yourself and just enjoy it as much as you can because it is a once-a-lifetime opportunity. It really is. Unless you're

Adam Collard and you get two. Yeah, that's true. I know. Have you got to? Would you go back in if like, you know, not pretending Tasha doesn't exist, not that she doesn't exist? No, I don't even know. I've done it now. I'm 27. I need to move on. It does get weird if you go in too old. Yeah. If I went in like 28, 29, nah. Yeah. It's a bit because I, I, I don't know. I always think 30 year olds going in and you've got 19 year olds I'm like it's just a bit weird what's we really got in common on the outside in there you can probably find a bunch that's so true

because like because some people were 80 someone was 8 who was 18? Gemma was 19 I think she was young oh my god I was 27 I was like not that I even tried but just I wouldn't be that's weird yeah outside what would you have to know I think David because Davley was with Gemma at the start and I think

coming out I saw like comments of like that's that's wrong like 27 and 19 year and I was like yeah shit I don't even think about that well you don't in the villa because it's not really your responsibility to ask those questions because it's and this is a really like brutal like gross way of saying it but you are kind of all given to each other it's like fair game it's just like well it's a free-for-all yeah yeah and it's not really like you don't you know in the real world if you're out clubbing you'd probably ask some consent related questions or whatever and like age and like feel it out but in the villa it's kind of like

well the producers have put us all in here so it must be fine but actually it's kind of like right but I remember because I didn't even watch it and I saw a lot of those comments at the beginning but these age differences are just like yeah a bit weird I think my mum was saying it she was getting a bit worried for Gemma

it's like a decade yeah it's a lot the game's end now when you're out though and like you and Tash seem really happy yeah really good yeah honestly yeah just love in life at the moment with her so it's all good really happy for you for you guys thank you so much for coming thank you

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