Should I Delete That? - Ask Us Anything - plus some BIG news...

Episode Date: August 21, 2022

This week, we’ve got an extra delicious summer special for you! With no guest this week, the girls answer YOUR questions and have a big announcement to make. Em explains why she is being targeted by Limp Bizkit fans, asks Al if she's done anal and (TW) opens up about the premature death of her husband’s prized plant. They reflect on what they’ve learnt from doing the pod and even Daisy pipes up to have her say… enjoy!Follow us on Instagram @shouldideletethatEmail us at [e-mail] & edited by Daisy GrantMusic by Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oh my god, why did I post that? Ah, I don't know what to do. Should I delete that? Yeah, you should definitely delete that. Hi everyone. Hello. Welcome to Should I Delete that? This is the third time recording the introduction

because Alex keeps, in my opinion, not bringing adequate energy to... She was like, we're doing this again because you didn't bring good energy. How rude. did it. I was like, hi, yeah, and you were like, hi, everyone, welcome to, um, the, uh, the fucking podcast, Al. I'm just so busy and important. Welcome to the, oh, where even am I? How you doing? I'm good. I'm good. I know you hate people talking about the weather, but I don't care. I am happy because it is so much cooler. And last night, I was able to get under the duvet and it felt like heaven i i get it i get it i so came al i it i it was too much the heat was too much

even for me like some of the strongest people that i know have cracked this summer like some of like handbag skinned like raisin women who just live for the sun even they have been like it's too much i can't do this yeah so like even like even and I rejoiced as the rain fell. Yeah. I don't, I don't want to be lulled into a false sense of security though because I do believe that there are more heatways on the way. Do you believe that because you're just being so small and you just think like, you know, climate change will come for us. Exactly. Yeah. Again, is there any evidence? I have no evidence. Okay, good. We've got a hose pipe ban coming. I just can't keep up. Can I ask a question. Why do they do?

Why do they say we've got a hose pipe ban from next week? I don't understand. If we need to do a hosepipe ban, we need to do it now, surely, because all that's going to happen is people are going to go and use a but ton of water this week knowing that it's coming next week. It was the same with COVID. They're like, we're going to do lockdown from Saturday. So I realize that what COVID's not going to get me on, like, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, but Saturday.

Okay, no, I do, I actually do get that. I do have a question, though, as someone who, and I know this is very stupid, but as someone who doesn't own a hose pipe, what do people, use hose pipes for watering their gardens right yeah of course okay okay yeah that makes sense yeah it's like the whole point um i think you're allowed to use a watering can still but then there are some allowances i know because my friend um is disabled and they get an allowance to keep using the hose pipe because it's not realistic that they would be able to get the like use of watering can and then carry it out to the garden

So I know there are some allowances, but to be honest, I've not read into it. I only learned that because I was talking to them at the weekend. So I'm unsure. Okay. But yeah, like Alex is absolutely devastated because our garden is like, it's dead. Like it's not even, it's, it's, I don't know fucking shit about gardens, but I know ours looks like trash. I know that we should not be proud of ours, which is very sad for my Alex because he's a green fingered horticulture list. Horticulturalist.

Pardon me? Come again. Easy for me to say. Oh, that's sad. All the plants are going to die then. I mean, I don't think he's going to let them die. He's like sort of like the army medic in every like American war film. Like he is there to the bitter end. Like he is out of all.

Like in our old house and we didn't have, in our old flat we didn't have any outside space, Alex would shower with the plants to ensure like their best. quality of life like he's so good so I don't think he's going to let those guys die I just know that they're not looking good like I'm not a doctor but I bet he was brilliant and like keeping his tamagotchi alive yeah yeah conscientious yeah do you remember like aliens yeah aliens in goo that we were told gave birth but never actually happened yeah I bet he was good at like looking after then and like nurturing them yeah he's one of life's nurturers he's he's is, isn't he? I like to think I'm a nurturer, but unfortunately, I've got the attention span of

like a door knob, so I'm like, oh my God, I love this thing. I'm going to keep it a life right. Bye. But thank God like Betty and Buwer, okay. Yeah, they're fine. I actually, I don't want the plants to die. And when Alex is away, I feel an overwhelming pressure. Because the thing is, it comes very naturally for me to look after Bua. Like, I've always had dogs. She's my best friend. It's in everybody's interested. I just keep her, like, healthy and thriving.

I think the thing that I find difficult about plants is I don't know what's good for them. So I'm very on edge. It's like people who aren't maternal being handed a baby for a weekend. I'm like, oh God, am I overwatering it? I'm underwatering? Is it too hot? Do I spray it? Like, do they need plant food?

What's plant food? Where can I buy plant food? Oh my God, if I overfed it, is it, I tried to prank Alex once. He went away for work to L.A., which was very glamorous and very far away. And he'd been going, if I told me this story before about the bonsai trees. He'd been, I got in for Christmas these bonsai tree seeds, because he's exactly what you said. He's so conscientious, he's so thorough. And I was like, if anybody can grow a bonsai tree, it's this guy.

So I got in these bonsai tree seeds. And I, shit you not, the process was laborious. they were in the freezer for weeks like then they were in the fridge and then they were at and he was doing everything with them right and then he went away for work and was like don't fuck up my bonsai seeds and by this point they were like tiny little like you know um when you type in vegan on the iPhone and then that little like little thing comes up that's what little shoot yeah so that's what they look like and i was like okay don't kill them don't kill them don't kill them and when he was away i was like oh my well i've got a really fun idea for a prank So I went out and bought a bonsai tree, which by the way are quite expensive. They're like, yeah, they're like, like, like, 70 pounds or something for like a full bonsai tree. I was like, what the fuck? I was like, we're sitting on a gold mine in the fridge? He's like growing money anyway.

So I bought a bonsai tree. It was an expensive private, but I was committed. And I put the tree in one of the things. And then so when he got home, I was like, I knew he'd ask, immediately when he got in like how are my bonsais and I was going to be like give good one of them has just fucking thrived like it's I can't explain it and for like I was so sure it was like the funniest thing that ever happened and he opened the fridge and there was like a full bonsai tree and then he deserted me and he was like do you think I'm stupid it would take 10 years for a tree

to grow this big I was like oh I love that prank though I know I thought it was really funny But then the worst thing is, you know, he kept those little bonsai things, and I think only two survived in the end. It was really sad, you know, like brutal. Nature's brutal, I'm telling you. And he was really proud of it. And our friends Ellie and Joshua came over for dinner. And he gave Joshua, who's a gardener, a bonsai.

And he was like, here you go, mate, we can have one each and like look after it and stuff. And Joshua's like, oh, mate, thanks. And it was a really adorable moment, like toxic masculinity, who? I don't know. These guys have got their bonsai trees. and Joshua started going down the stairs and he tripped and he fell

and the bonsai tree just dead on the floor soil everywhere did it die? It died yeah it's gone oh my god I know that needed a trigger warning em sorry yeah it's been a whole joint and then I'll reel the £70 bonsai tree that I bought for the prank

that I actually became quite attached to that then died because of COVID because I went back to my mum's house Did it catch it? Such a dad joke. I enjoyed it. No means didn't nurture it. All our plants died.

Everything died. It was a very bleak time. Wow, that did not have a happy ending. Yeah, anyway, I haven't even asked you a good end, but this was supposed to be a 10-minute intro to a special episode. And I've taken this on a, I don't even care. Daisy didn't take that out. I feel like people need a lesson in, like, the cruelty of nature. and well before we go just to say today's a special episode there's no guests we're the guests

we apologize also apology another apology because this is the week that al gives us all the bads that she didn't tell us last week so come on bring the mood down I've killed a bunch of bonsais what's going on I'll give you one I'll give you one that I didn't do last week but oh god it is it is I don't know well it's not that bad but it's also not that great either. That's okay. Such as the nature of life. I didn't tell you this because I thought I'd keep it for the podcast

because that's how our friendship works nowadays. So I obviously I'm coming off these antidepressants which is an absolute roller coaster. Never felt quite so bad in my entire life which is fun. But it's like

the panic one of the things is just like panic attacks. But okay okay anxiety attacks because luckily they haven't gone into a full-blown panic attack but it creeps up it literally just comes out of nowhere like you're feeling fine you're feeling fine like bam suddenly you're like i can't breathe so when we um do you remember we had that meeting with acast that day yes so i had a breakfast before with my friend and it was like a really nice breakfast we had such a nice time and then afterwards i had half an hour in between that and the acast meeting

so I went to sit downstairs and wait and I just sat down and suddenly something about stopping still so all of a sudden I was just like I can't do this I can't do this oh my god I can't do this and this horrible wave of just panic came over me and I was sitting in the cafe like crying didn't even care who could see me like I just didn't care I was crying like I rang Dave and I was like help come pick me up I can't do this come and he's like right okay well calm down like it's like by the time I actually get to you to pick you up he'll be like two hours later so let's be realistic and I so I was like right so I went to the toilet sat on the loo which is gross I never normally sit on public loos I can't bear it I always

squat but I didn't I just sat down on it didn't care did some breathing and managed to pull it back around and I did I had a moment where I was like do I tell em but I was like if I tell her you know that thing of like sometimes the people you're with you're best off they're best off not knowing for your sake because if they know you've just and especially if you know them well then that just gives you opportunity to just break down further before the meeting yeah this was before oh but i knew if i told you then that would give me room like space to just like dissolve all over again do you know what i mean like do you know what i mean though when you're with people that you know really well so you're just like I just I can't tell them because otherwise and actually

I was fine and we went into ACAS and I was like you're a very good actress because you were fine mind you I didn't really give you space not to be because I just arrived sat down got my dress hooked to the back of my chair flushed my ass to everyone and stole the attention um I because I saw that you'd had an anxiety thing on your stories and I seemed it was afterwards and if I'd thought you were in a better mental place I was going to ring you and be like, why didn't you call me? Ring Davies two hours away and I was like probably like five minutes away. And it was, but it was before, but I do get that, you know, and it's like, don't be nice to me. Don't be nice to me. Yeah. And then throughout the day,

like, I knew you'd be like, are you okay? And like, obviously in a very nice way. But I was like, I'm best off just pretending that everything is okay. And actually that worked because then everything was okay. So it was. And were there any negative repercussions from sitting on the loo with your bare buck cheeks um yes i think i've got hepatitis apart from that you know what i sit down sometimes do you yeah it depends where i am service stations i actually wish i could service stations are squat oves there's a lot of places but i don't mind saying starbucks toilets are the worst no costa are the worst Are they?

Yeah. And I don't know why I'm throwing such shade. I said a huge accusation. I always remember reading an article about a woman who had been on a train and had gone to the toilet to change her tampon, and she'd put her tampon on the side, on the sink, inserted it, and then developed hepatitis C. I think it was C, yeah.

Where did you read that? I don't know. It was a very long time ago. Was it Us Weekly or take a break? Probably. So I'm absolutely I bet it lives online Okay

Woman inserts If it's on the daily male I don't believe it Hepatitis C It does not live online I think it's had a bad dream Never mind I remember it

And ever since I'm like Oh my god Does this public toilets make it feel so sick And I do Like I can't Oh it just make me feel so sick Like I do that trick where you You know, you have, like, a little bit tissue paper to, like, open the door

and then put the tissue, and then keep the door open with your foot and put the tissue paper in the things. You don't have to touch. This is very interesting. I'm just a bit gross. I just sort of, like, crack on with life. I like, you do a thorough wash of your hands afterwards, and depending on where you've been, actually, you know what?

I'm saying, depending on where you've been able to be dependent on how thorough, but no, because the nicer the place, normally the nicer the soap. So then you want to get in there anyway. But even if you then do a thorough clean of your hands, right you have to touch the knob afterwards or the handle or to get out and people might not people before you might not have done such a thorough clean of their hands but you know what you got to do out live a little live a little live a little yeah yolo yeah you know but I'm really sorry that you had an anxiety attack and I'm sorry that I didn't know what a shit friend I'm just like

yeah it was for the best it was definitely for the best how has it been since then because you've now been like a week, 10 days off them? 10 days off them. Not great. Not great. I don't think I'm thriving right now, but I'm getting through it. I don't know. I think you're doing really well and I think you'll look back at this time I'd be like that was fucking rough but I got through it. And it was it was like a means to an end. Yeah. To finally come off. I've got that in mind. It's like I'm like finally. Come on. You get it. But it's not even like, You're waiting to do it. You've done it. You're doing it. It's happening right now.

Do you know what? That was actually one of my bads last week that I didn't end up talking about was that I put on Instagram. I did a question box to be like, these withdrawals are kind of like killing me slightly. Like does anyone have any like can anyone make me feel better about when they're going to go basically? I was just hoping for people to be like a week, a couple days. Oh, I was fine in like two weeks. you know just something like this um and so many people respond it being like it actually never left me like i still feel this bad like oh wait it um it triggered chronic fatigue for me or blah blah blah and i just kind of not saw red that's not the right expression but like sore red with upsetness if that makes sense and like jumped onto stories to be like i don't get why people say this you know

like i always try to make people feel better like why would people feel better like why would people people come in to tell me these things when I was clearly looking for reassurance and then swiftly deleted them all because it was embarrassing and I had a lot of, I had a lot of hate actually in my DMs of people being like, well people just want to share their stories with you

like you ask for their stories and da-da-da. Yeah, I don't know. But I think sometimes you do ask for things and then the minute you do it and I don't even mean on social media, but even in life, sometimes you ask something and then the second you get the answer, you're like, oh, why the fuck have I asked for that?

Like, I don't want to know, actually. I don't know why I did that. It's like you don't want to know how the sausage gets made or whatever. You know, sometimes you ask the question, and the minute you start hearing the answer, you're like, oh, God. And you know it's technically your fault for asking the question, but it doesn't make it any better.

And people do, like, I think people just forget that you're not one person asking for research purposes for a new book that you're writing or an Instagram post. You are a very desperate, exhausted person who is wanting hope from people. But I think, you know, like just by virtue of social media and the persona that you are to so many people, you know, you provide a lot of answers to people and you're a safe space for a lot of people. So I think people feel like they can be safe with you, which is a lovely blessing for everybody. But it does also make it difficult sometimes for you when you're just one person. And you, in that situation, you didn't want, you didn't want to be anybody else's safe space.

You wanted somebody else to be that for you. But you didn't articulate that because why should you? And they didn't, and it's just a classic miscommunication situation. It was, it was. And I think, like, it depends on the kind of person, not, well, not, I don't mean it like that, because that sounds patronising, but, like, when someone, like, asks me for my own experience on something, the thing is, is that I'm very much, like, I don't want to know how bad something's going to be, I would, if it's something's going to be bad, I would rather go into

it, not knowing, because for me, the anticipation is worse than the, you. actual thing in a lot of cases right and at least that's how in my head like I'm like if like the withdrawals like rather than going into it knowing how bad it was going to be which I did actually but anyway like I would rather not and be like I'm just going to take it by day by day I don't know what's going to happen but I will manage it rather than be scared about it so if someone asks me for advice well to like share my experience something that they've been through that they're going to go through I'm always like it's going to be fine like okay it might be a bit rough but you'll be absolutely fine and you'll get through it like that's my go-to response rather than being like

it's going to be bad like but not everyone's like you exactly and some people want to be prepared and to know everything what they're going into yeah yeah yeah and also at the end of the day and I say this with all the love in the world you asked a question and they answered it so yeah yeah yeah in in a friendship capacity in normal situations most people ask their friends and you just trust your friends to say what you what they know you want to hear but you can't I guess always trust everybody to know what you want or what you need without communicating it but it is hard but I think I'm really proud of you for sharing what you are like online because people it's what we said about Betty in our week's episode very often people come to share their

experiences when they're at the end of the journey so you kind of get like a polished edited story whereas the point that you're at is Yeah, you asked a question, you regretted asking it, then you got angry, then you did this and whatever. But that's all part of how you're feeling anyway as a human being. And I think sharing that's really valuable, it's just fucking hard for you because it also comes to a lot of other people's expectations. And what, well, what made me laugh? What good came out of it was you messaged me saying, what did you delete? It's been a while since, wait, what did you say?

Since I felt that the podcasters was like aptly named. I saw it. I was like, oh, thank God for that. A bit of drama, a bit of scandal, there we go. I know we're in the podcast, right, after all. It makes me laugh how many people say that, and then in DMs are like, oh, I get what are you named the podcast? I deleted something the other day for the first time in a while.

Because I got, I had Limbiscuit fans come for me on Instagram. Oh, shit. It was actually crazy, because I talked about the train wreck documentary, which I know I mentioned in Thursday's episode. And I did say it off the cover. I didn't really mean that much by it, but I just said, like, oh, the organisers should have known what event they were organising

like knowing how different it would have been from 69 Woodstock Peace and Love Jefferson Airplane to having Limp Biscuit and the Red Hot Chili Hip Peppers and whatever, like all those metal bands they should have just changed the logistical side in keeping with the crowds that they were going to be attracting.

All these people are like, I was actually quite shocked by a message yesterday, and it takes a lot for me to be shocked. But I, and then I put a follow-up thing saying, look, no shade to metal fans, I'm just saying it's widely known that Moss Pits are a thing. They can be dangerous from a security standpoint, so they should have more security and more medical personnel so that it can be a safe environment. Because there are loads of metal concerts that happen all the time, and everybody's safe and fine, because there's adequate security and whatever. So it's not a bash of the genre. It's just saying you can't prepare for a peace and love festival and then invite Limp Biscuit and expect everything to just be fine because it's like even the drugs that original would stop

was probably a lot of clean marijuana, whereas these guys are probably going to be like dropping E or whatever, you know. Anyway, so, but it got so, I couldn't believe it. I got so much shit. And then I put up a thing and then I was like, oh God, I'm really not in the mood. for this, but I did get a message yesterday from someone saying not really good enough.

A blanket lame apology is pretty shitty from someone who advocates for most other sections of society. I'm sorry, I can't advocate for Limp Biscuit fans and Red Hot Chili Pepper Fun. And did I say, I was like, what? I asked if it was a joke and she didn't reply. So I'm kind of hoping it's a joke.

Okay, I'm confused. It must be a joke. Because I really, it's not, No, because I kind of put up as my story like, sorry to Lynn Biscuit fans I didn't mean that you guys were the problem. I'm saying the organisers were the problem. And I, like, it really

wasn't that deep. I was just saying the event was quite badly organized. Also, I'm a huge Red Hotchilley Peppers fan. Like, I would just go and see them in concert in a heartbeat. So obviously, I'm not throwing shade. And I just put that up being like, this is what I meant. This is what I meant. I'm sorry. And she replied with that. A blanket lame apology

is pretty pretty pretty from someone who advocates for most other sections of society you know what limb biscuit are going to have to have their own like they're going to have to find a different advocate I can't do it I'm not equipped I just don't I don't know enough about them it can't be me I mean if if you're calling if we're calling limb biscuit funds at a section of society and this woman this woman is saying you advocate for most other sections of society then you are fucking busy I'm exhausted because that opens you to millions, billions, trillions.

What I am doing on the daily, I am out there advocating every section you can think of, I am, I am busy. And I've been really slacking on the lid biscuit side of things and I'm sorry. I hope you're advocating for bonsai tree owners. Of course. And at every stage of the bonsai tree's life. Jesus. Wow, okay. I know. I was like, I think this might be a case of the expectations being a bit high.

um but i do i i i was actually quite shocked but i got quite a lot of shit from metal fans why i really expected better from you i was like oh my god i'm kind of surprised by that yeah yeah i am but i'm not also i just like oh god but i i did share one message i shared a message that i got sent from again kind of like i'm very disappointed in you one of these messages and i kind of shared like my thoughts on that message and then i was like nah not even worth it so I deleted it and then I was like oh god it feels like the olden days deleting things I was an influence I was inspired by you have you got anything good have you got a bad that was my bad that was your bad I haven't been advocating successfully for limb biscuit fans

and I must endeavour to do better absolutely shame on you blanket lame shitty apologies oh my god It's like I've been wheeled out on this morning to be like, I'm really sorry. I didn't, I wasn't, I wasn't thinking. Oh, I tell you. You used to do a YouTube video. Yeah, yeah, I just called I'm sorry. Yeah, you got to cry, you got to break.

Yeah, 100%. I tell you who, I've been, there's been a scandal. The Meadle Prep King on TikTok, have you seen it? No. Oh my God, he's, he's, I had got sent so many DMs about it and I was like, what's this situation? So there's a guy on TikTok. TikTok called The Meal Prep King.

Literally, Daisy's going to kill us. This was supposed to be a very short intro. She's going to kill us. One hour later. She's going to kill us. Fine. Sorry, everyone. This is our Million Download episode, so this is what you get.

Okay, this is the shit that you guys have chosen to listen to. So, you man, this guy makes TikTok stuff, and he makes meal prep stuff. And he's done a book, and he's really famous on TikTok for, like, doing meal prep. And then he went on a live a couple of days ago and was, I'm presuming, very drunk. Otherwise, I don't know what's gone on. And he just started calling it, like, saying how much, yeah, he went at one of his followers,

saying how much he hates fat people, how lazy they are, how stupid women are, like went on this, like, misogynistic, fat-phobic rant. And I think he's been dropped by Penguin. So you can look out for my apology next to his apology. coming up on the text of Elvrhythm near you. Yeah. He says, I do kind of like pissing women off.

He said, I'm not against women, but he did not agree with fucking women thinking they have some sort of hierarchy. It's not great. You must admit, women want to self-sabotage men. Well, it's not self-sabotage. It's just for sabotaging, but all right. Women want to self-sabotage men, fuck off. you know this is a classic case of men not having a good place to talk about their feelings

because what he should have done is called up one of his friends and said look I've been dumped and I feel very sad can I talk to you about my feelings or do you have the number of a nice therapist but instead he's gone on TikTok and he's got angry oh so bad yeah absolutely like insets crazy and I don't support council culture at all

but it's just like it's just mad and I actually feel for him like he obviously is a bit of a wrong un but he's clearly projecting his own pain I mean all this actually you know what fat I said that because kind of like fuck him because he was so rude about fat people and it's like

his whole thing is it about supporting people on a weight loss journey and like supporting people trying to live a healthier lifestyle you know it's all meal prep and shit he's on this cookbook about making it more accessible and all this stuff and then he's like and then to turn against your core fans it actually felt back because it kind of suggests he's always felt like that but then in the same time he must look back at those clips today and just be like oh my god I've just ruined my whole career he said women are fucking scruffy cuss he addressed a fat person as a fucking mammoth and he said

he also used an eblest term in one of his diatrives against women saying shut the fuck up you fucking and i can't say the word but it begins with an R. You know what? I retract my bit about feeling, sorry for him. But it is a... What that hell? I was watching the videos this morning

because he's clearly inebriated and I kept thinking like, oh my God, he's going to... Like, you know, the anxiety that I get after like two glasses of wine at dinner. Oh my God, you die. You die. Imagine making him in the morning.

You get a call from presumably your agent saying Penguin have dropped you. He's going to have to do a sorry video. And you know the sad thing is and the really scary thing is I think he's going to have to lean into Andrew Tating because there is a market now for like hating women like this so maybe he just leans into like being ableist, fatphobic and sexist and then keeps going.

Shit man. That's really bad. I bet most of his followers, did you say that as well? But most of his followers are women as well. Yeah, yeah, I think so. Yeah, and a lot of his fans are really upset. So obviously on TikTok is not a reliable place to get news. So I was just looking at the clips of his live.

And there were loads of his followers being like really upset. Rightfully so. Because again, you know, you feel safe with a person. You turn to a person for help or something. And then they're going to start using words I like. You'd be like, I will suck a dick then. Like, fuck you. Jesus.

I know. Right. What have you got a good? We're now 35 minutes in and we haven't done anything. My good is the fact that we're doing this episode because it's a million downloads. We're going to hit a million downloads. week, which is absolutely huge and coconuts. And I just feel so lucky. I think this was all good last week, but I just feel so lucky that we're doing this. We too. Love you too,

but I am slightly concerned that we're not going to have hit a million downloads by this episode. We will. I'm just not convinced. We will. Will you stop saying that? This is what I said this morning when you said you're bringing bad energy in. We will. We're on all the trajectories. Now people, people are going to think, like, I better just know. we will we absolutely will with this episode it will be our millions of download we're going to hit it stop being stop negative nelly stop being this is good vibes only and also it makes us sound fraudulent and stupid it would be so on brand to be like oh this is our millionth download episode and we don't hit it until the week after well people might not listen to it because it's just us and it's a load of shit

and it's we rambled in which case but hopefully they'll have downloaded it anyway because we're going to call it our million of download episode and then even if they don't listen to it we've downloaded it that's what we can't okay so we will share screenshots of our listener of our download count

on Monday morning probably on Monday evening because we've worked this on morning don't promise people think you know what I can't do this with you tell me something awkward probably this is this is awkward oh my awkward happened with us yesterday I don't know if you heard it

I don't know if you heard what happened If it was a massive fucking burp Then yes I heard it If it was a second massive burp Then yeah I had that too I don't find that awkward It's just a part of being a human And living, okay

And having a human body People burp Okay People burp and then people do what you do Okay fine People explode People burp and Alex explodes Thank you

So I was, we were on the tube together and I was getting off a few stops before you, right? It was a very busy tube, okay. What did you do? And I got, I got off, I was getting off. So we said bye, we had a hug, we said bye, but I'm one of those people, like, awkward people that I, I, that's not enough. I still have to like, like, like, when I, when I, when I finish a phone call, I'm like, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, put the phone down, right? So we said bye, I turned around, walked towards the tube, but the tube was quite busy, turned back around to once again wave and say bye, and I did it. Between me and you, there was now a man, okay? So I turned round, it was a short man about your height. I turned around, eye to eye this man, and I said, bye, and wave to him. And he just went, Bye.

I thought you'd heard it. He gave you more than I did. No, I didn't see that. Like his hand went up like so slowly. Like his face was just like, bye? And I was like, I just ran. I thought I'm not even going to, I'm best off just going. I'm best off just going.

I'm so sorry because I just said goodbye and then turned around, put my air pods in and got on in my day. I was out. I am one of these people that I will stay on the platform and wave you off. Oh my God. Oh my god. Oh my God. And I didn't know. In my, it's fucking weird. Like in my family, when we say goodbye at the door and continue saying bye and like wave and kiss,

blow kisses and wave until the person is completely driven off. Like it's not fun for anyone, but we do it. And it's so annoying because it's annoying for the person driving off. It's annoying for the person out the door. It's annoying all around. but it's, I don't know, it's, it's just something, I don't know, it's like, I just, just, just, just, just, just, just, just, good, good for you, but, yeah, so then I end up having this awkward interaction with this man. So not only were you waving goodbye to me who wasn't remotely interested, but it was then picked up by another person who wasn't remotely interested, but had the good manners to smile at you anyway. oh no there was no smile he just said bye in a really uncertain voice obviously naturally

and like lifted his hand up to like do this slow wave who's like bye and I was like die I'm dying run run how old is he about our age I'd say oh no that's crushing because because I'm one of these people that still even though I'm like happily married thinks like you can't engage with anybody on the tube because like as per every Richard Curtis Like, it's probably a love story. They're going to think you fancy them. Yeah, so maybe this guy's like, your new Dave. Maybe this is Mills and Boone.

Maybe you're out of there. Oh, my God, how good. My awkward also happened yesterday. I left you, got out of the train at Waterloo, went to go and meet my friends for pizza. I was super duper early. I was in my crocs, guys. I wore crocs out of the house yesterday.

for fashion and for fashion i'm wearing them today for comfort and yesterday i wore them for fashion and it's been a lot actually it's been it's been it's been big they've become a massive part of my identity and it's just causing some shifts it's making some waves you know it is what it is i'm just working through it anyway um i was walking out super early for dinner which is always awkward because it's raining so you can't sit down anywhere you're going out for dinner so you don't want to go and sit in the cafe by yourself but then you don't want to go to a bar by yourself because what you're going to like order a drink and then does a man think

oh I'm going to go and talk to her but then he sees that I'm wearing crooks and then he wouldn't so but I wouldn't want him to do anyway because it would be awkward and what would we talk about you know it's a whole thing I'm just not going to commit to sitting down anywhere I don't want to go and buy a drink I'm just going to walk around for a bit

which is always awkward because it was raining anyway I walked underneath the canopy not the canopy as it turns out because I had a bit of a bit of a moment with my spelling on my Instagram yesterday.

I was walking under a shop canopy, which is like the bit outside the shop, you know, the hangs over. The hangs over the shop, yeah. Because people were like, what's the canopy? I was like, I can't get into this now. I'm already trying to differentiate

between canopy and canopy. Like, I can't help you. Anyway, so I was walking underneath the shop canopy. And your man behind me in the news agents, well, I presume he was coming from the newsagents, otherwise he was just a busy body, got his big stick. And I understand you've got to do these things

because otherwise the scenes are going to go. and it's going to rip because it was so weighed down with water it was like a boat so he got his stick from his side to like push the water

up so that it would fall off the sides obviously and land on the pavement thus not ripping his canopy but he did not look well he might have looked and he might have looked at my crox

and thought gonna fucking get her she deserves it bitch a lesson first day of washing my hair which only happens once every seven days it looked fuck

didn't I look nice yesterday It's so pretty. You looked so nice. And I put on my Instagram I felt pretty for the first time in ages and then this fucking totter pings up his catapid

and all of this was and I was on the phone to Jen my manager and the water just all on my head and I just went and all these people it's waterloo

it's so busy all these people are like ooh I was like oh my God I'm so embarrassed someone sent me a message this morning

that is really amazing it's so embarrassing because it looks targeted it's not so it no no it's not like when a bus goes by and it's a little bit like oh i've been splashed it's like someone's taken a bucket of water and poured it on your head it was such a shock um someone sent me a message this morning saying i'm getting real sarah jessica parker vibes from your look today and then you get water chunks at you in the street you do a cute scream and it's a full-blown sex in the city episode about how flats made you invisible I was like, oh my God.

Oh my God. And just like that, my crocs sabotaged me. The thing is, is like, that is it, that I actually find that incredibly embarrassing because yeah, it's not like, you can't just be like, oh, well, just like, you know, get that little bit of water on my hair. And you saw my Instagram, didn't you? It was soaked. Like, I had like, it wasn't like, he-he, I've been rained on.

And it wasn't the left side of my head either. It was just the right side of my head. So it was really wet here. And there was just a lot of. water on my face and I was wearing a white vest which went sea through obviously and it was just like oh my god this is just fucking mortifying but I can't stop and also they're becoming the bane of my life these noise cancelling air pods you can't turn around you don't want to turn around with your stupid wet hands and be like oh and exchange and engage with the guy that's done this to you

so you just have to keep going that is so amazing there were a lot of people there Oh my God, I'm actually dying for you. That is really bad. But what made me laugh as well is before. We were leaving the studio and it was like absolutely. It was like torrential rain. We waited for ages for the rain to like settle down because you had made all this effort. Like your hair looked so nice and styled.

And you had like a light summary outfit on. You were going out. So we waited for ages. And then you carefully placed a bag over your head and like ran to the train station. and you kind of survived it, right? You were pretty unscathed. And then, this is just like bucket of water on your head. I did piss myself when I saw your story.

And then the best thing is I put it on Instagram. I knew it was called a canopy. And the only way I could think to spell canopy was like, canopy like, believe, cross-missure. Yeah, a little cocktail sausage on a stick, an hors d'oeuvre. So I wrote Canopy. And then my follow, like, immediately my DMs were like, canopy ha ha ha ha what they throw in little like polybonds at your head it was right oh fuck up

oh no so many people like someone's the message being like i actually googled what a wet canopae was because of this it's like oh what a confusion i wonder what they must have like got as a result like as patch it or something okay guys well we've talked for way too long data is going absolutely kill us and the worst thing is we haven't even got a guest to break this up it's just more of us chatting absolute shite for another 45 minutes or so so we apologize but it's a Q&A we answered your questions about us and each other to celebrate potentially hitting completely in downloads um yeah I actually thought it was really fun I liked it I enjoyed it I hope everyone else does too but it is us chatting shit again so enjoy that

Yeah, you just don't, you're not bringing the energy required to sell this with the, sorry, like the amount that we require. It was actually a really good Q&A, um, loved it, loved every second of it. Daisy got involved as well. We had a great time. Okay, yeah, that's taken up with her. She's got, we'll let her go now. Yeah.

Hello. Hello. Welcome to our summer special. Welcome to our summer special, which is celebrating the summer, but also the fact that we, Can I say it? Did I say it? Yeah. Okay.

This episode will be our millionth download episode. Can you believe? Can you believe? Will we have hit it by then? Yeah. This is presumptuous. No, we will. On this episode we'll hit a million.

That's cool. Imagine if we don't. How embarrassing. Literally, everyone's like, without the guest, I'm not, fuck off. Like, I'm absolutely not loads of me. And then we have to drag it out until the week after. But fingers crossed. The punters, no way, what's it cool?

What's it cool when it's like when they describe like the trends? People see the trends coming. Like the forecasters. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, it's like what they say when they talk about the stock market and it's like their, but as we know, the stock market, pan crash.

Sorry. Okay, I'm bringing us down. This is our, this is to celebrate one million downloads, which we never, in our wildest dreams thought we would ever hit. 100% are definitely not as soon as we have. Thanks. Yeah, thank you. And we thought we'd do an Ask Us Anything episode. Yeah, and I've had some anything like Al, have you ever done anal? Because that's what everyone wants to know. Do they actually? I've had so many questions, being like, what do you guys think of anal?

Like, I was like, oh, I don't think you know Alex Light as well as you think you too. I'm so sorry to disappoint, but no, that's not in my wheelhouse. Um, so yeah, we asked questions on Instagram and we're literally just going to talk at each other. Yes. For this episode. I've actually really struggled to narrow these down because there's so many good ones hit me hit me with literally anything okay okay this made me laugh only if you get it if you don't it's just going to be awkward why does everyone touch their front bottom when they watch my video do you go yeah fucking spam comments literally every post i made someone's like oh everyone's touching on yours yeah no one comments that on my always why is everyone going to the bathroom after watching my

video. Oh. And I'm like, you're so annoying, go away. That's how you know you've made it. No, I think I'm just like on a spam. I don't know. No, I think that's because you're like, because I see it on all the big accounts, like Kendall Jenner, everybody's touching their front bottoms in her comments. And now it's like, no one touches that, why? Because why don't, why are none of you touching your front bottoms after watching my videos? That one really made me laugh. Because I shared, I shared a meme that I thought was so funny. And it was like, where did you find that meme, Al? Where did you see it?

Probably on your page. It makes me laugh because our stories end up becoming the same because we share so many things. And people notice it as well. They're like, I love it when Al shares a meme and you share it a minute later. I was like, yeah, and I did the same. Yeah. So anxiety, what if you got not good enough? Depression, everyone hates you.

Instagram bot. Why does everyone touch their front bottom when they watch my video? It makes me laugh so much. My mom always called it a front bottom. So did mine, yeah. And still I'm like, oh. A front bottom. Front bottom.

Yeah, you've got to call it a front, you can't call it a front bottom. Did you see the video I shared today of a little girl talking about the vulva? Great. Right, so I'm not good at guessing ages, so I can't tell you how. Okay, fine, seven year old. And she's talking, she's got this little crochet vagina, crochet vulva. And she's talking about all the different parts and like identifying them. And I just thought it was really cool.

And she's like, identifying them properly. She's like, this is the outer labia, this is the clitoris. Anyway, I don't know how we got there, but here we go. No, well, you took us there. I was just following, blind me. Okay. I have a question, and it's actually really cute. Which trait of each other do you admire the most and why?

Oh, fuck. It shouldn't be that harder. Have you got an hour? I'll go first. I admire Alex's work ethic. Really? Yeah, I think you're very organized. I think you're very hardworking.

I think you're very good at staying on top of everything, and I just really admire your ambition and how hardworking you are. Thanks. You're not happy with that. Would you prefer I said something else? No, no, it's fine. You know what I love about Alex?

I love her hair and I just love it. No, I'll take that. I'll take that. I mean, it's quite boring, but okay, whatever. David, do you have something you love about Alex? They just can't be. Yeah, so we can tell her what she wants to see. Don't drag Daisy into this.

What do I love about Alex? Yeah. No, Daisy, you don't have to answer this. You do not have to answer this. Because I just give her. her a trait that I admire the most because she doesn't want it. That is putting you on the spot. Don't worry. It's fine.

Oh my God, I've got traits that I like. Can everybody, like Daisy's traits, Daisy's got a great sense of fun. I love that about her. Yeah. Like, it's just always a great sense of fun when Daisy's around. Yeah. I think what I admire about you, but again, this is work stuff. It's so, it's annoying. But like, I feel like you, with my, like, trying to be organised all the time, I get bogged down and it end up being less creative and less like in the moment where I feel like you're really good at that being in the moment and like freer somehow I don't know I know what you mean but I don't like that about myself particularly well no I do I feel like you're very spontaneous yeah yeah I'd like to be like that

yeah but you you are you are the most impulsive person I've ever met how could you claim that's not spontity I would never buy a drum kit like but it's different isn't it I don't know it's like a different spontaneity. Like I am ready to kind of ruin my life a little bit, but if you ask me to like go out for a drink after work, I'll be like, you're messing with my plan. Oh, I don't think I can. Oh yeah. I love being asked to go out for a drink. But like throw money down the drink. Yeah. Like, no, nothing makes me happier than when someone says at the end of something like, do you want to go for a drink? I'm like literally more than anything. I'm already out. It is nice. I just get my head around it. I just need to take myself off to the

toilet and have a thing. I've got you to come out once to the pub. after something yeah it was a good day you saved for two pints and then you went home um okay do we go for something more serious i don't know go for whatever you want just go for what's coming in are you ever hurt when someone is one of your closest friends but you're not theirs this cut me to the call this kills me oh my god um oh well no are you not no not massively because i think like someone said i think i said it in the podcast today when i'm my friend yeah i did because when i my friends said it like you have friends for a season friends for a reason and friends for life yeah and i just think i don't know you don't want to put too much pressure on some friendships yeah i don't know it's a bit

weird because i call a lot of people like oh yeah she's one of my besties and then i'm like awkward because maybe i'm not one of their besties but then i just think ah i ain't that deep i love them and it doesn't need to be reciprocal because that's not the point of friendship in my eyes so that makes total sense yeah like it is all there are occasions where it's awkward like when bridesmaids, like if someone asks you or you ask them and they don't ask you, that's awkward or, yeah, like God parenting or, yeah, I can see it. Do you? I feel like, oh my God, this like, oh my God, no. I feel like actually this is like unlocked something for me that like, I always hear people say on dating shows or like whatever or Love Island and shit

like that. They're always like, oh, I put a guard up because I'm scared of getting hurt. And I never really get that with relationships because I just like, I don't know. we'll throw myself in whatever but with friendships i really feel like i am like that yeah i get unless i know that someone really likes me i think my default is to assume that they don't and so i'm a bit like then fine like i don't care like whatever i was joking when i say i don't like you i do really whatever um too little too late that's actually very interesting because so one of the questions that we had was like what did you think of each other when we first met yeah what did you think of me when we first met like kind of on the back of that because because I meet everybody and think

I wonder if they want to be my friend and then if they don't it's like okay and I very much got the impression that you did not want to be my friend really yeah but that was like okay no drums see I think that's the impression I give off because I we met at the F and F event yeah and I felt like I shouldn't be there like no one I didn't know anyone I felt like everyone was friends there and I just felt like a spare part and like I didn't and I was just like I just want to I ended up a great time but initially i was just like i just no one wants me to be here not like that because i don't think i didn't think that people were thinking enough about me being there to think they didn't want me to be there but do you know what i mean i totally know what you mean i feel like

that all the time when i go to places but i think that's like my defense thing is like hey yeah love me yeah like when i feel insecure i go like hammer and tong that's good like the you lean into my heart on my sleeves i'm like yeah jingle jangle yeah which is sometimes a bit crushing if like you give you like give good vibes to people but I've learned that very often what I perceive to be rudeness is actually other people being shy or insecure and like I don't need to take that personally because that can be like yeah and I think a lot of more people feel like that than actually we realize because I remember Harry saying that when he came on saying that when he's talking to people he assumes that they are not interested in what he's saying which is like terrible

because everything he says is so lovely. Literally, he's one of the most like... I know, I've been to hang out with him all the time. Yeah, engaging people I've ever met. But that's, yeah, it's just interesting. It's weird, isn't it? But I remember thinking you were very high energy. And I wanted nothing to do with you.

Yeah, I ran out because I followed you on Instagram and I ran up to you and I was like, oh, I saw your post yesterday. And you were like, cool, yeah, yeah. Was I? Yeah, but then you were like, I think I saw yours as well. And then I was like, interesting because she doesn't follow me. And I was like, how did you see it? And then...

I actually remember, I actually remember, because I remember seeing you, back when the Explore page was an actual thing and not just full of weird, like, nail hacks and stuff. I like those nail hacks. And like belly button weight loss tricks. The algorithm knows you well. So well. You, I remember, I remember seeing it. I remember you seeing a photo of you.

Oh my God, how good, how is this? Yeah, I remember the photo of me as well. Was it the one with a tape measure around everything? No. Oh, interesting. It was the one, it was you in the car with your pants undone. Oh. Having a cookie on the back seat

That's why I didn't follow you No you had done Yeah yeah yeah I know the one Yeah your jeans undone Yeah classic I thought I followed you I don't think you did because I was like oh I think you followed me after that

Okay But it was one of those awkward things And you did the right thing because when you meet someone In this job it's really weird Where if someone says hi And then you say hi and you do know who they are But then you don't follow them You have to just follow them immediately afterwards

Yeah Yeah so I think you handle with like a champ That's so funny. But going back to the original question. What was it? About people, like, about feeling like... Oh, sorry, it's my question. Are you ever hurt when someone is one of your closest friends, but you're not theirs?

Yeah, I think with this, like, it's a nice thing to remember that friendship doesn't have to be, like, completely balanced on each side, because you're never going to be exactly, it's never going to be an equal... Well, actually, that word works. It's never going to be like an equilibrium. Yeah. Like, it will always be changing. and flowing, and you just have to make sure that the friendship makes you happy.

But to think that someone's just a bit like, meh about you, you know, you're giving it your role, you think, you think it's really solid friendship, you really like them and they're a bit like, like, that's crushing to me. But you really like them. So you're still benefiting from having them in your life? No. Yeah, that's lovely. No, because their apathy towards me is very clear. But that's not, that's not what's in, that's, okay, okay, yes. Because if you've got a friend that's apathetic then like fuck that guy you know what I mean yeah yeah that's true it's a good point yeah okay I like I can see how it can be but I think open communication is key and my friend lucky who doesn't listen to the podcast so it's fine like we had a like super when we both got engaged at

quite a similar time I was like so I'm not gonna you're not gonna I'm not because you've got your own wedding do you want to like not be one of my bridesmaids and she was like yeah do you want to not be one of mine and I was like cool cool and it was like nice but then yeah I I don't know. And that could have been horrendous, but I was like, but I thought I thought being a bridesmaid was a bit of chore. Like, I thought it would have been for her with her own wedding. So I was like, oh, let's make her life easier. And then, obviously, the insecure part of my brain for ages went like, oh my God, what is she was never going to ask me? And she only said that, because I said it. It never crossed her mind. She was like, I'm giving you an out.

Yeah. And she's like, what? Yeah. Obviously, I'm taking that. You fucking stranger. I hardly know you. He just created a solution for a problem that didn't exist. Exactly that. So, yeah. But then why do I want to sit and self-sabotage a friendship when I've got no evidence to do that? So I just, you know, assume that she loves me as much as I love her. Yeah. Yeah, it's a nice way to live. It is a nice way to live. There you go.

We'll take your answer, not mine. I turn lots of movement over here. What's your favourite thing that you've learned or gained from doing the podcast? Oh, I had this question too. That's nice. Still didn't think of an answer, though. I should have done. I actually, oh God, there's.

so much, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, okay, we can't not credit Jack here because I feel like I've learned so much from her, so much, and I feel like things that perhaps I knew even before Jack came on, that like, what someone says about you as none of your business, I say that right, but she has helped those things feel real. I agree. I learned a lot from the Come Curious Girls on a different level to Jack. oh this is really hard to like okay well I know from the top of my head oh of course you do go on then

show me up I've gained colleagues which I really love yeah because I haven't had colleagues before particularly and I haven't had like support so it's really nice to work with like friends I've gained a new friend because we were friends before but now I'm just going to put it out there you're one of my best friends and I didn't have that before don't worry if it's not reciprocated

you're one of mine and I can say that That's actually reciprocated. That's nice, isn't it? Yeah, that's so nice. I feel like that was a nice moment for us, but I'll just keep gossiping over it because it's awkward. We're both puse.

Yeah, we're like, oh my God, how embarrassing. I feel like we've gained like a really cool community. Like I'm obsessed with like the in jokes and everything. Yeah. But then I've also gained loads of perspectives. Just I don't know. I think we, it's what we talked about at the beginning. You can really easily like pigeonhole yourself online

because you're too scared to say anything because there's no nuance and whatever. and I feel like we've both gained confidence on speaking on issues. Totally. And that's really cool as well. And that's before we even talk about the guests. And so much perspective. Yeah.

I can't, I don't even want to call out like one or two guests because they've all been so valuable in so many different ways. But I do feel that, Jack, and come here. Yeah, I did, didn't like it. Can I always think you're braver since doing the podcast? Yeah. Actually, do you know what?

I, we were with a group of people recently, Dave's friends. And the topic of like trans women, specifically in sports came up. And it led to a discussion around this. And like before the podcast, I think, in such a discussion, I would have, despite having my views, I would have sat back. I mean, my views weren't as fully evolved as they are now. But like, I would have thought like, oh, that's wrong. I know that's wrong.

But I wouldn't have said it. And I felt really confident enough to actually speak and say what I knew and what I believed. but in a really nice calm way and the conversation was so nice because it was just really like yeah like calm and pleasant and like it just opened up a nice discussion I like that I think the opposite for me

I think I've learned to listen more yeah because I'm quite like a talker and quite impulsive as we know so like even with my words I'll be quite impulsive sometimes and I think I've like learned better how to listen

and just listen without like waiting for your turn to speak I don't know but also I was really self-conscious I think I don't know I was really self-conscious at the beginning of doing this and I've kind of grown into like

more of an acceptance because it's again it's just putting yourself out there in another way and not everyone's going to like it that much and putting yourself out there in a way that is completely not curated well yes we have our lovely producer Daisy

who edits the episodes but the way you can curate yourself on social media and really like I'm very much like I'm good with like not pen and pity because I can't write for shit, but, like, I'm good on a computer and, like, writing down how I feel and putting my views into words like that because it allows me, like, it affords me space and time, whereas this is just very non-curated and you just kind of have to, and that's

quite difficult, I think, so I think that's possibly what's made me braver, but yeah. It's cool, isn't it? Yeah, it's cool. Look at it's growing. When are you doing live shows, please? We're going to do a live show. We are thinking about it, aren't we? No, no, we're going to do it.

Okay, you're putting out into the universe. Yeah. Do you want to be quiet? Especially I've learned from you. We're going to, first of all manifest it, but we're also going to plan it. We are, yes, a Christmas live show in London. Yeah, that's all we know. Please, please someone come.

Em is manifesting that people will turn up. I am just wallowing in the fact that no one will be there, so please stand up. They probably will. And if they don't, thought of a shit. It's just fucking horrible. How do you find and book guests for the podcast? I'm just curious as to how the process works. Bag, borrow and steal.

Literally. Kidnap. Take ransom. Take their families. Threaten their lives and then... Hope for the best. I hope they bring the charisma. Well, famously, like, I mean, let's be honest,

how many times are we rejected? I would be quite interested to find out a really. of how many people we ask. Yeah, I wonder, actually. Quite a lot of people say no. I guess we DM them. And if that fails, then we go to their management. Yeah.

And then that will probably fail. Then we just pretend it didn't happen. Give up, yeah. And just feel like eternal shame about the fact that our DM is sitting. Do you remember that one afternoon where I found this like celebrity, what is it, like celebrity address? basically where you can sign up and get a membership and then you get access to like a rollerdex of celebrities management

and I must have emailed about 70 celebrity management and we didn't get, no no we did one. Oh Emma Thompson's management very politely declined. Declined. Rebel Wilson's management less politely declined. And that's it, nothing, just nothing. Yeah, cricket. You know what?

I don't mind the unopened DMs. it's when you send them and you get left on red, which has happened so many times. So many times. And if I overthink that, then I just like have to take my human body as far away from its current location, dig a hole, get in it and then never get out again.

Oh my gosh. There's some and it's like people. And I'm at a point like where someone I follow and they follow me. And like we comment on each other's posts and stuff. and we must both be aware of the fact that my DM is sitting red in there. And I can never DM them again because it will remind them of that. And they'll be too scared to open it because what if I'm asking them for another favour? And if you delete it, they still remember that it was there.

So then they know that you've deleted it. Which is worse. Yeah. But yeah, there are people that I thought maybe I was tighter with than I actually am because they have totally left me unread. That's probably why that first question evoked so much trauma in you. Yeah. Who is your dream guest?

I know who you're going to say. Do you think I'm going to say Louie Three? Yeah. I would love to talk to Louis Three. But I actually don't know. I don't even know where I'd start. I think I'd be a bit of one. I actually really would love to talk to Billy Irish.

She would, that would be the dream. Or Millie Bobby Brown. My new best friend. Oh my God. Did Millie Bobby Brown put me on her Instagram? She literally put your video on her Instagram. I know. That is really cool.

Unbelievable. Unbelievable. follow up with a podcast request her DMs are off unless she follows you and she doesn't follow me no she won't follow me um yeah anyway but i i would be really interested to talk to lily allen as well oh yeah i'd love to talk to lily allen yeah there's a lot of women i admire in the industry yeah um that i just that we don't hear from that much like billy eyelids particularly i'm like oh my god i've got so much she put me on her story once as well did she she did and that was probably the best day of my entire I'm fully bragging here.

I did not know that. That's unreal. I did a post about her, that Daily Mail thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember that. And she shared it. Didn't Jesse Jay share it as well? She did, yeah.

Oh, Jessie Jay was one of the people that I sent a DM to. Nothing. Crickets. And Paloma Face? I don't know, bro. Oh, I thought she put it. I love Paloma Face. She's another one I'd like to talk to.

Don't tell me, if that's true, and I don't know it. Oh my God. Yeah, that sounds about right. Maybe. I don't know. It happens so often. It doesn't happen. not often. It was just a whirlwind. It's crazy.

Love that. Yeah, insane. But yeah, they're not coming on the podcast. But if we, I mean, actually, no, never say never, because we've spoken to some people that I literally love so much. I do get it, though. They must be bombarded with podcast requests. Yeah, and who the fuck are we? Literally, who the fuck are we? Yeah. They're probably invited to go on actual people.

Yeah, yeah. They've got like Stephen Bartlett and us, and they're like, well, I'm going with Stephen. Yeah, yeah. Jesse Jay went on Steven. It's not long after I DM'd her, and I was like, you know what? I don't blame me. I get it. I absolutely get it. Who would yours be?

Let's manifest it. Put it out to the... I don't know, is the honest answer. I just don't know. Do you know what? This is random. So random. I would love to speak to Victoria Beckham.

I'm good to say. Well, we've tried for Victoria Beckham as well, I haven't we? I sent an email that I spent about three hours crafting. I put my all into it. I asked for advice from my friend who's my old school. colleague at hello who's like a talent booker and I really went all out and yeah this is so embarrassing that we just keep listening off all the people I'd love to talk to her yeah I would oh who else was I think I want to talk to female astronaut really badly do you know who I'd like to talk to Russell brand

try him yeah I remember reading his book recovery from our addictions or something like that recovery from redictions and when I was in a bad way with bulimia and it really helped me actually so I would like to talk to Darren Brown I would love to sort to Darren Brown his book happy I think it's called the happy and it's about like stoicism and and like it's philosophical and it's brilliant I like very much align with his views I'd like to talk to him Ian Wright I want to talk to Ian Wright I'm with the messaging today he's going to say no if anyone has ins with any of these people Can you let us know? They'll be like, no, they'll be sending these people into hiding, witness protection.

What is the weirdest thing you've ever seen me do? I mean, witnessing you get your dress caught on the chair and flashing your ass to everyone. That was quite special. That was a really nice moment. That's true. God, I must have seen you do so many weird things. Last night, I was watching TV and Alex just sent me a voice note of her sneezing. Literally.

You know that was off the back of our recording, right? Just listen to this. I was just minding my business. I was watching I was watching my wedding video actually. That was it. You know why they were. 20-07 and then I replied going for fuck's sake, bless you.

It took me a while to get that. I was like, oh, I thought you're saying like, oh, bless you. It's not such a random one. Would you ever consider a career in medicine? That was off-piece. Would you? Absolutely not. No, it would be a mess.

It would be a wreck, not a chance. Yeah, fair enough. I would actually, if I got to the hospital that it was you there with a needle, I'd be like, no. Run in the opposite direction. I'd be running up the pearly stairs, like straight to the light to take me out.

What the fuck? Someone sent one in saying, does anybody else see, oh. Okay, I thought she said, does anybody else see Louie through everywhere they go? But then she said, does everyone else think they see Louis through everywhere they go? No.

Yes. I actually have seen Louis Thruh once. Have you? Cycling around the Hammersmith roundabout and I was like, oh my God! And then he was gone. Was he wearing a helmet? He was, yeah. Good boy.

Yeah. Good boy. Yeah. That's what I said. Good boy. And he was like, oh, and then pedaled even faster. And now he's never coming on the podcast. I also, I have a Louis Thruh T-shirt.

I have a Louis-Thruhirt. I have a notebook that says, got to get through this. I have a limited edition BBC T-shirt. Yeah. With like three of his faces on it. A wedding card from me. Is it through it? Yeah.

I can't remember what it was. There was a picture of him and it said, I think I fancy him. I'm just going to say that. I just, I think I fancy him. Olivia Coleman, I'd love to interview as well. I love Olivia. I think she said no to us as well.

Anyway, how did you know your husbands were the one or do you even believe in the one? I don't believe in the one necessarily. No. I think that I love Alex so much. and I think my life is infinitely better with him in it. And I think I want to share, I said this in my wedding speech, I just want to share everything I do with him. And that's how I know that he is.

Yeah, yeah, then he is, he's the one. But I just, I don't know, I think like seven billion people in the world. And I just like met this one like Irish lad at a festival. Like, I don't know. Yeah. I mean, like so cool. Yeah. So cool if that, if that is it.

but I don't know if it works like that. But I just, yeah, he's like, he's, he's one. No, he's the one. I mean, he is the one. But that's the thing. I think if you reframe how you're looking at the one, it's not like there is only one in the world for you, but he's the one that you've chosen to spend your life with.

He's the one that you choose, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. But definitely don't believe that there's just like the one in the world for us. I think there is like so many people that could be ones. Yeah. And then, yeah, you just find the one. Or you make the one.

You choose the one. You choose the one. You choose the one. That's good. Oh, is there anything you both just really disagree on? Yeah, burping. Yeah. I guess the more spiritual stuff is the only thing I can think really.

I think you're more spiritual than me. And more open-minded than me in that area. Yeah. Yeah, I guess so. But I don't know with any confidence. I open-minded is the word that I think is right because I don't know anything I just would like to think

I don't know my life's just better if I think that everything happens for a reason yeah I was trying to say this to my mum the other day and I was like where did I get this from because my mum is so cynical I was like she was in a really like stressed out mood and I was like everything will be okay in the end and if it's not okay then it's not the end

And she was like, that's a lovely idea, but it's just very rarely the reality. And I was like, oh, kid do you. And where did you get it from? That's so funny. I've got no idea. I'm like, yeah, I just think I am happiest when I'm thinking the best. Like, I just, I just like this. I just like to be happy, you know?

But there's definitely a lot of positives from thinking that way. 100%. 100%. 100%. Also, like, okay, oh, I don't know, this is. So again, you're not going to insult me. No, no, I'm not going to insult you. But like, even if you, okay, no, even if you know everything is not for a reason,

even if you, like, you think that what happens two minutes from now is not destiny, it's not fate, it's not written in the stars. It's so nice to think it is because that gives you more, like, confidence in life and the world. Yeah. But you can't make yourself if you believe it. That's the problem. of my have like I really want to believe it then just do it just fucking don't I think you're the master of your own destiny and that scares the living daylights out of me literally the thing is

when you're like I can't believe it just just do literally just be like yeah actually I believe that just try it's like what betty said in the day like in last week's episode just like just practice being like just trusting somebody else or like something else like I read a Kate Atkinson book the Jackson Brody there's the five of them anyway they're not supposed to be that profound but he's a detective and he says in it that a coincidence is just an explanation waiting to happen or something like that

but basically saying that there's no such thing as a coincidence like everything kind of happens for a reason and I just really like that I just feel very like I don't know because I think sometimes you can you can wake up and be like oh my god I'm the master of everything and I have to make all of these

decisions and whatever whatever and realistically you do like you're the one that has to make the decision to get up and do your teeth and go to job interview and do this. And sometimes you're asked horrible questions and have to make horrible decisions. But then it's just like kind of a bit nicer if you just think, but trust myself because universe has got my back

and it's probably going to be fine. Yeah. I mean, that's a much nicer way to look at it. 100%. But the best thing is, is you can just do that. Yeah. Like when you have the bad,

that I think that's a lot of my coaching. Like I literally, and I think about it in my brain and I just press ejects like I'm ejecting like a seeding like a CD and then I just put new one in I'm like good vibes now that's what I call music 49 or whatever and then it's just good vibes okay I mean I like that yeah I might try it I might try it yeah I think I think too much though like not in a good way I don't mean like oh I just I'm a great thinker but I'm just life's great and good this generation's Freud but I just

I don't know I just I think I think too much rather than being like fuck it Everything happens for a reason. And something comes in and it's like, nobody doesn't happen for a reason. You're the master of your own destiny, which means you're the master of your own demise. And like, if you don't do this, then this won't happen. And if you don't do that, that might happen.

And then, anyway. Yeah, see, that's something that I disagree with you. But then I think, like, that would be something that we'd disagree on. The kind of like, but then I think that's like, oh, yeah, are you a glass half full or a glass half empty? Because I think we'd probably disagree. We'd probably look at a.

cup and I'd be like half full baby and you'd be like half empty yeah that's like the classic thing yeah but then I don't think I don't know there's some things that you know that you kind of like judge a friendship on and I don't think it matters that much like I think it's good to have things that you we're just very different people yeah but yeah I think I really disagree with you on oh I disagree with how hard you work I think you should just take a break I'm always saying that but this ties into this thing I feel like everything's in my hands in my control and if I don't do that then then two years down the line I'll be like well I don't have a career anymore

and it's because I didn't because Em told me to take a break on fucking August 17 I just think she should take some days off because I don't know if you guys notice this I guess maybe it's really hard to see it on Instagram but you're working all the time and when you work it's like

and I don't mean like all the time like every second of every day but you don't assign yourself time off no but it's because of it is because of that and it's with social media as well isn't it? You just, you feel like you're just going to die. Like, you'll just become irrelevant if you don't, you know.

But Nelly London just took a month off. She did, didn't she? And she's so happy, said it was the best thing ever. Yeah. I just, I think it'd be really good for you. Because sometimes I get a text on a Sunday at three in one of our WhatsApp groups. And I'm like, oh, Christ, she's off. Sorry. That's really annoying.

No, but I don't have to make that about that before coaching. I'd have made that and gone, oh, God, she's working. I have to work as well. But now just from a friendship. And I, but I don't feel like that. I just feel like, sometimes I feel like I'm slacking a bit. But from a friendship perspective, I just want you to just call your jets. Chill out.

I think maybe we should get you into recreational drugs. I was just about to say I could do weed. I don't think you should do weed. No. Why? Oh, I've got a question for you. It feels personal. It feels critical.

Oh, fuck so. No, it's not. It's just, why do you think so many female writers books are pink, Alex's, Lala, and Tinder translators, for example? well I mean we could go into like oh it's the reclaiming the feminist reclaiming of the color pink however I just really like pink yeah I just like the color pink so that was why you mind but I do also know that and I don't know the reasons behind this but like when I worked in magazines it was very common knowledge that if you have a magazine color that's green it's unlikely to sell very well and if you have a magazine color that's pink it sells really well so book

publishers probably know this as well and then go on off the same reasoning, so. Interesting. Yeah. Nice. I think pink catches the eye. I don't know, but I just really like pink. But I like orange. I love this orange outfit, actually. Emma's wearing orange crocs and an orange shirt, and it's a really good look.

I'm actually really liking the crocs. I'm liking the jeans. Fuck yeah. Yeah. Good vibes. This is not how I thought today was gonna go. I thought I was gonna get here and you were just gonna go, get it out. No, I actually am really getting on with them.

Thank you. I wasn't. I'm seeing one of my fashion friends later. She's got a brand to have a look on Instagram. She's called 41. on Instagram and she makes clothes to order and they're really trending and she made me an outfit that literally made me look

like the groovy chick girl because she like completely tailors it's all like when you were on holiday yeah yeah she makes really cool clothes and she's actually one of the coolest people I've like I know she doesn't listen to the podcast so I can say all of them anyway she wears crocs and I was like if I can do it

if I'm ever gonna do it today's the day to do it that's your green light well I'm gonna see how it goes because she might look at me and go in that color what are you wearing no i like it i think it's a really good look actually thank you um how do you guys feel this is this is really interesting actually how do you guys feel about the parasocial relationships that followers create with you i struggle sometimes with the expectation that that brings with it like i find it i find that it's very easy to disappoint people and that's really hard because people take the time

to message you which obviously is so appreciated and obviously if these people weren't there then we wouldn't have the careers that we do and I really appreciated people message but I also know and this is something I've always had strong boundaries about that I can't read them all yeah and sometimes I can't even try to because it's really overwhelming because whilst you do get a lot of positive stuff I think like the psychology of knowing that there can be negative stuff in there does just put you on edge when you're going through your mailbox like it's not you know going through your text you're very unlikely to find one in there being like you're a fucking bitch hope you get hit by car so it's kind of a relaxing experience yeah

not again mom um but yeah so it's like quite an un it can be a bit unnerving when you're in your messages so I think from a self-preservation standpoint but then I always feel so disappointed in myself people send nice messages and I haven't replied I know and that's hard and I particularly get it with feel good Friday and it's something that I'm really struggling with with a lot of men at the moment where like I do feel good Friday obviously and people send in their good things and people reply and it is more often men which I think is quite interesting about what they think that women know them online but or in life um but saying like what's the point in sending these and you never reply anyway and I find that really hard because I'm like I want to offer this good thing and I'm really

trying yeah but there's like a quarter of a million people here and I just can't do it and I find that like kind of gutting yeah um and then also that's just all those people that have a view about you and some people think i'm fucking gas and great energy and really fun and some people think i'm a massive dildo and i'm so annoying and they absolutely hate me and that's hard because it's fuck all you can do about it except be yourself and just learn to be okay with people not liking you yeah so it's a lot like i don't you know i don't think it's actually that easy but then

I also think I'll let you speak in a minute when people send these messages particularly with the podcast and the people are like really on our vibe I really hope that they don't feel like it's one-sided

because sometimes I look at my DMs and I'm like yes like fucking yeah I love this energy so much and it's like they're hearing us and they're replying and it's like and I feel really bonded

to these people that I've never met and actually don't know so I hope that it doesn't doesn't, particularly with the podcast, I hope it doesn't feel one-sided. I hope it does feel reciprocal because I really feel like the love and the connection and stuff. I think it's like, I say it to Alex, I'm always just sitting. I'm like, my followers are the funniest fucking people.

Like I literally just like, lo, lo, lo, lo, lo, all the time. So I don't feel like it's one-sided. But it's weird. It's weird, isn't it? Yeah. I do think on a level it's kind of fucked up. 100%. And like probably something that, I don't know.

It's, well, it's obviously not normal. I mean, we're not like these huge celebrities, don't worry. We're not going ahead of our stations here, but like, head of our stations? Yeah, yeah. Is that the right phrase? It can be. That sounds so weird ahead of our stations. Above our stations.

That's it. Same thing. I don't know. You wouldn't want to be above the stations. Ahead of ourselves above our stations. Anyway. Whatever. Yeah, but I do think it's, yeah, it's just, it's, it's really bizarre.

And like, it does, it does pain me to know that a lot of the, like you said, like, a lot of the people that mess, like, I was reading, I guess I'm like, the absolute wunker. But I've stayed away from the reviews on my book on Amazon just because I just thought, I just don't need it in my life, right? I just don't need to know. And like, my publisher has said, like, you've got some really nice reviews on there and like,

but whatever, I just don't need to know. And then yesterday, I don't know, I was feeling a bit like I just wanted to be mean to myself. I was like, right, I'm going to go on Amazon and like see how bad, like, what they think of me. And actually, they were so nice. And some of them were so detailed and lovely and thoughtful, I was like, it hurts that I actually will never be able to repay these people.

Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like, I would never be able to, like, show them. Like, I am so thankful that you have done this for a random stranger because it means more to me than I think, it means more to us when things like that happen than they realize. But then it's just sad that, yeah, I don't know, it's just weird. The whole thing is bizarre. It's really weird.

It does mean so much, though. Like, I literally, I cry all the time I get nice thing. I'm like, why? I know. I just so nice. I know. And then every time I get a bad message and I'm like, that's about right. Obviously I am this fucking bum of a.

Yeah, same. Do you wear underwear underneath your leggings? God, yes. God, yes. Someone was asked. Absolutely. 100%. Do people not?

I don't know. They said, can you do a poll? But I mean, the risk of camel toe. Yeah, I, I, no. Also, how a lot of people are asking, in capitals, this one, when are the fridge magnets coming and she said I don't mean to shout but I want to convey my excitement they're coming no thanks to Al

I'm on it are they actually coming yes okay okay excited did you can't they actually would genuinely I love fridge magnets so I haven't really conveyed that to you because I just listened to it in the comfort of my own home I listen to it and don't share with you but I do love a fridge

I love a fridge man I'm really pleased to hear that you're on this Yeah, this is going to be 3D and like set I love them yeah do you know what at some point in the future we need to do an episode

where we where we interview Daisy because she has listened to hours and hours of our shit yeah it's so interesting

that you were talking about like you know what you disagree on and I'm like I could tell you oh my god I can answer all of these really

disagree on I think you both disagree on like your tolerance of men that's something oh yes oh yeah i think you both ebb and flow like you um ebb and float between a complete intolerance of men which i subscribe to yeah and then you remember that your best friends are boys which is i also do this and you remember your best friends and your brother and you're like oh

i didn't mean all men but do you remember when there was that not all men discussion yeah oh yeah we did kind of have a disagreement i think you're a lot more tolerant and accepting and because you're you have that compassionate view whereas you're far you're past the compassion Thank you. Fuck him. I find that in check. Oh my God, I forgot about that. I think that was a one and only disagreement actually.

Well, someone was asking. It's like, someone did ask, it's like, oh, did you two ever fall out? Be honest with me, because I'm feeling strong and brave and I work up in a good mood today. Do you ever just say, oh, that fucking wench? She's so annoying. How long have we got? But seriously, do we ever fall out or do you? No, we don't.

I think you like. We did. Yeah, I think we had like very different working stuff. I was at the beginning. We had that one spat, do you remember? Yeah. I think it's good for us, probably. Oh, yeah.

About a guest who never even fucking came on the podcast. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they never even came. Well, that was worth it. And I changed a flight for him. Oh, my God. I know. Prick, I don't mean that, but also Prick.

Yeah, I nearly sacrificed my wedding here. Oh, yeah, he did. And they didn't even come. Yeah, I think like, but I actually think that's really normal and healthy. So not. amount of time that we spend together and have to like spend arranging logistics which is both of our least favourite thing ever. I actually think it's pretty good but we're very good at communicating I think and saying like when one of us is in a bad mood also I can just totally tell with you now

yeah like when else like in a bad zone I'm like oh Christ I'm out of here and then I said when I half an hour later being like you're okay can I do anything but I think like that's good I also think it's really important because men can do this. Men can butt heads at work and like disagree on stuff and it's no biggie. But when women like have the slightest disagreement, it's like, oh, bitch fight, like, Katty. And it becomes so deep and personal. And it's like we're actually oftentimes just communicating.

That's so true. And I think, and I don't know if we talked about this last time, but I think that's what's been really good for me about doing this is that learning like we can have spats and like be annoyed at each other or whatever but it doesn't mean that we don't like each other at the end of the day whereas I've always been like with friendship it's like all or nothing like I've got to love them completely

they've got to love me completely and if anything if I annoy them or they annoy me like it's obviously like I just want to like take myself away from the situation yeah so that's quite yeah I don't have that at all now but I've learned that totally I'm just like nah yeah that's good that's good

yeah I think just on the friendship thing I think it's really cool to give leeway to people because I think really often we can make friends feel like they're taking an exam like a friendship exam just by being friends with us because our expectations are so high we never communicate that so it doesn't often lead to like good vibes so I think like yeah more chill it's cool more chill okay we have time for one final question I was going through her entries okay if you weren't doing this job what would you be doing?

Sweet air. I want to say I'd be a lawyer, but I'm just too thick and too, like, too... That's so much admin, fuck that. You have to read, like, books. I'm really good at reading. No, I know, but, like, I think you have to read, like, books of... I'm going to say that one again. I'm really good at reading it.

No, but I feel like you're good at reading if it holds your attention, right? Yeah, if it's like Marion Keyes. Imagine if it's, like, fine print stuff. Oh my God, shoot me. Yeah. Also, I think, like, I could never defend the bad day. No, no, no, no. That would get, like, my, like, yeah, I don't, yeah, I don't, yeah.

On the good side, yeah. That wouldn't be good. I think you would be a good lawyer, though. If I had the good guy, I'm so good at arguing. Yeah. Like, I touch on every fucking point. Like, I'm like, bam, bam, bam. Like, I know how to like, bat, like, might drop moments.

Yeah. But I'd have to be sure I had the good guy. Yeah. And I don't think I'd ever fully confidently know what I was talking about. Like, case in point, like plastic. Like I think I know stuff so well. I say it's so confidently that I'm like, nope, that was wrong. You'll need to wait until the days in the future

where we've got like a search engine inside of our head, you know? Yeah, I think I'd be quite good at like self-representing as like if I couldn't afford a lawyer and I committed a crime. Yeah. And I represented myself. I think everyone would be like pleasantly surprised with how well. I think I'd still lose and go to prison. But everyone would be like, well, she made a really good.

That was really good actually. She really tried. And that was pretty admirable. We don't really see that from civilians, so well done. So I'd be in prison, but I'd have had a good go at defending myself. Yeah, I can see you as a lawyer, yeah. Nah, not really. If Instagram goes tomorrow, what do you think we should do?

Like, what would you do? Literally, what do we do? I'd love to be a therapist. And I still have the dream one day that one day I will be one, maybe. Yeah. But I also know that that's not as easy as I'm, like, easier said than done. You have to go back and study and, like, pass examples. But you're good at that.

Yeah. Which is why I'd have to go and be a life coach because I wouldn't need so much of the science. I wouldn't need to pass them at the exams. I'd love to be life coach. Yeah, you'd be a good life coach, I think. You'd like to do like... You would be a good life coach.

You would be a good coach. Yeah. And that'd be great. I mean, like, yeah, let's punch through your problems. Yeah, that would be good, actually. Yeah, I feel like that would be good. Oh my God, I do that. How would I advertise?

Daisy's giving me a face. I don't know if it's a good face or a bad face. I like the idea of punching through your problems. Nice. But unfortunately, I don't know how I'd advertise it without Instagram. Life Coach Boxing. Bloxing. Yeah.

I'll get back to you. Yeah. That's what I'll be doing in about five years when our relevance is just... Yeah. Yeah. You know, for those two dickheads, they're just like sit in front of a podcast, a microphone for hours. Oh, Maddo.

Thank you so much for joining us for our summer special. And we will see you. Do you know what I realized that I said last. week I said like oh I wish we had an episode on Tuesday so we could say see you next Tuesday and then Daisy was like you idiot there's an episode on Thursday it's exactly the same so we can say see you next Thursday and it's you're getting me I feel like you're not with me you get me I'm 100% with you I just think it was a bad joke that you made then I think it's a bad joke it actually wasn't a joke I just want anyway all right this is not how we're

going to keep them coming back for another million downloads please do we love you all genuinely thank you so much honestly like we feel this probably wasn't a very good thank you president we definitely could have got someone cool but as we've made clear we've tried desperately to get cool people and we just can't so it's just us all right um thank you so much for listening and we will see you on Tuesday see you next Tuesday Thursday bye shit we love how you corrected me with such certainty see you on Thursday see you next Thursday and with that M lost the appeal Oh, I'm so sorry.

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