Should I Delete That? - Daisy from Below Deck: “I don’t chase airtime - but some cast members do”

Episode Date: July 13, 2025

We have a reality TV legend on board today - Daisy Kelliher, the Chief Stewardess from Below Deck Sailing Yacht.We all fell in love with Daisy on the show - she’s funny, incredibly capable and she always tells it like it is, whether she’s juggling demanding charter guests or dealing with complicated boatmances. We had SO many questions for Daisy - how do you get cast on Below Deck? How does she manage working so hard and playing so hard? How much of what we see is real? and do cast members fight for screen time? Daisy gave us such an amazing insight into two fascinating worlds - reality TV and yachting - and if you’re not hooked on Below Deck already, you will be after listening to this. You can catch Daisy on Below Deck Sailing Yacht on HayU! Follow @daisykelliher87 on Instagram JOIN US FOR OUR BIGGEST LIVE SHOW EVER! We’re heading to Edinburgh for our biggest live show ever. We’ll be taking over the iconic Usher Hall for one night only on 3rd September. Head to SIDTLive.com for more information and to purchase tickets.If you'd like to get in touch you can email us on [e-mail] us on Instagram:@shouldideletethat@em_clarkson@alexlight_ldnShould I Delete That is produced by Faye LawrenceStudio Manager: Dex RoyVideo Editor: Celia GomezSocial Media Manager: Sarah EnglishMusic: Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It is fascinating to be on reality TV and to watch people's interactions the way we're able to and just, you know, the level of denial, delusion, like not being self-aware. Hello and welcome back to Should I Delete That? We have a reality TV legend on board today. We are so thrilled to welcome Daisy Kellier to the studio. Below Deck fans will know Daisy as Chief Stewardess from Below Deck Sailing Yacht. We all fell in love with Daisy on the show. She's funny, incredibly capable, and she always tells it like it is, whether she's juggling, demanding charter guests or dealing with complicated boatmancers. We had so many questions for Daisy. How do you get cast on Blow Deck? How does she manage working so hard and playing so hard? And how much of what we see is real, and do cast members fight for screen time? Daisy gave us such an amazing insight into two fascinating worlds, reality TV and yachting. And if you're not hooked on Below Deck already, you will be after listening to this.

You can catch Daisy on Blow Deck Sailing Yot on Hey You. Here's Daisy. Hello, Daisy. Hi. Thank you so much for coming in. I'm freaking out. I've been on my Below Deck hype for a little while. It's taking me longer than I'd like.

My children are really getting in the way of a good time. But I put out a story recently about how I felt like you had been massively mistreated in season for of Blow Dex Sailing Yacht and my DMs went insane with Justice for Daisy messages. And then I lost my mind because you DM me and I like freak the fuck out, had zero chill, texted everyone I'd ever met and begged you to come here and you did. So thanks. You didn't beg me, you asked me and I was very happy to come along. I did that thing, you know, when you're like texting a new boy and you like write the message

and then show all your friends. I was like, if it's okay if I ask it like this. And you just watch your phone and wait for it to do. literally like the three dots. I was actually we're talking about Shiborne. It was Chivorne who sent me the story. Oh my God, really? Okay, right, well, I'm going to owe her like a big bunch of flowers.

Yeah, I'm freaking out. I don't even know where to start. I've got a million questions. Oh, me too. And I know that listening, there will be so many below deck fans. But I also know that the questions go, I mean, and I know already that Al will be itching to ask a million questions about Hey, you, production. Bravo.

filming, but I also think there'll be a lot of people really interested in yachting in general. Yeah. Need caveat, that's the yachting on boats, not the yachting that dogs do when they have worms. But every time I hear yorting, you've never done that. No, I've never heard of that. No, I've never heard of that. What? Never.

Guys, when dogs get worms and they scoot their bums along the ground, that's called yachting. How would that never come up for you, Daisy? Never. See, Betty doesn't have worms with my dog, but she does that, but I just call it scooching. Well, my dog's got swollen anal glands So she also does it It's called yachting When they...

Well, there you go. Here you go. So that's not what you do professionally. No, that is not what I do. But you work, you work at sea Which I am fascinated in. Like, I don't even know... So many questions.

I don't even know where to start. I'll let you start out. How did you start? So my family were in it. My dad used to do it and way long before he had me in the 80s. I had an uncle who did it, lots of aunties who did it. So he encouraged me to get it.

Go into it when I finished school. This was like pre-instagram, honestly really pre-internet the way we know it. So I was like, I thought this was the merchant navy because he also did this. So I was like, no, absolutely no interest. I want to go to university like all my friends. So he encouraged me to go into hotel management, which I did. Got my degree, came over to London for two years. sucked. It was cold. I was poor. I was like, this is not a vibe. So he, again, was like,

go into yachting. This was now seven years later around when he first said it. And then Instagram was the thing. And I was like, oh, this is kind of a vibe. So, yeah, I went down to you when I was 25 and got my first job. And yeah, no, it's quite a long time later. So Okay, so your first job, like, on a boat, what are you doing? So my first job, I was a sole stewardess on a medium-sized sailboat. You know, it can range. Like, you can be a laundry person, a service person, on a huge boat, third stew and a kind of medium-to-large-sized boat. I was a sole stew on a small to medium sailboat, which was a hardcore job.

Solstue is probably the hardest job you're going to do because you're, you're doing everything. You're doing laundry and breakfast all on your own. So that was my first introduction to yachting. Yeah, which was a great introduction. I had an amazing season. Learned so much. Yeah, it was, it was amazing. How long is the season? A season, it will run from, like the med season will run from like April, May to about kind of September, October, really June, July, August. Same as like a summer season, like any kind of high season. And then Then the Caribbean season would be the same kind of November till like March, April. So you did the first one, obviously not on camera, you were 25.

How long were you doing it before you started doing it on Below Deck? So I was doing it for eight years full time. I lost my job in COVID. So I went on a holiday in March 2020. And the day I landed in Dublin, that's when Trump stopped flights, when we went into lockdown. It was March 17th, actually. and I was like, oh, and I thought I was just, you know, going to be on leave. Our boat was going from Sri Lanka, doing the crossing back to Europe.

And then like two weeks later, they were like, no, you've lost your job. I'd worked with this family for three years. All my stuff was still on the boat. I was like, what? I was like, I don't understand what's happening. And I was looking for a way out of yachting anyway. I still loved my job, but I was ready for a change. And, you know, it's not a young person's game.

I guess, you know, being a woman kind of older in the industry, it can be, it's kind of almost like working, like when you do your season night and I betha or something, you know, if you're like 40, it's, it's cute when you're 25. It's not that cute when you're 40s. There's some people it is, but for me, you know, I didn't really want it anymore. So I was ready to look for something different and quite a few people, my one of my best friends, my captain were like, you should do blow deck. And I was like, I don't know. And then the more, time I spent in bed depressed. I was like the more it seemed more appealing. So kind of reached out to them and yeah, they were they were casting and I, you know, obviously didn't think I was going

to get it. And then suddenly I was like, oh, I think I might be getting this. And then I have to kind of really make a decision. And I was, it took about two months for me to decide. I was going back and forth. And then eventually I was like, I need something in my life. I need something fun, something different. I certainly didn't think I'd be doing it five years later. I thought who was just going to be a one and done kind of experience. What was the casting process like? Sorry, I'm going very granular with these questions. We're going to be here a while.

What was the casting process like, the audition process? It was pretty easy. I think before COVID, you may have had to fly out to them. Mine was just, you know, an interview. I think I did the, did I send a tape in first? God, I can't even remember. I think it was an interview with a casting person. It was about 40 minutes.

They put it into like a three minute. kind of segment and then they blast the people they think is appropriate and qualified to the producers and then I think my one was I the next one was I was in front of maybe 10 or 11 producers but I only saw one and I was working at the time and I was speaking to her there recently and I was like it was being on the boat in the cabin that pushed it over and she's like yeah she was like that was like super impressive I was like in my cabin on my break time on the Zoom call. So they kind of love that because they, you know, they want to really keep it as authentic

as possible. So the fact that I was actually working really helped. But yeah, I think that was my process. So just two interviews. I know other people have had longer ones that can last over a year. I've heard people of being in the casting. Yeah, they'll kind of go back and forth or they'll re-interview. But mine happened pretty quickly.

It's quite a unique thing with Below Deck because you are all. so qualified and skilled at, like, what you do. And I think that's why it was the first kind of, it's probably the first reality show I ever watched and the first one I really enjoyed, because it's like you, at its base, you're watching people working really hard. And it's like, that's kind of what sets it apart from me,

and that's what I really like is it's like, if someone doesn't do their job properly, everyone's united and like, well, you're letting the side down because you're not doing your job properly. And this is kind of like nice morality when you're watching it, that it's just like, well, at the very least, with all your shenanigans at least you're getting the job done

yeah no definitely and the other one is when the best are when the guests are a mess and then you really feel the public come and you know come and defend you when the guests are they don't like that they don't like they don't like seeing us under pressure with the guests

yeah it's you know I think there's a bit of everything in below deck I think you've got the drama I think you've got the travel you've got the food you've got the work side of it And most people have done a sort of a stint in hospitality. So I think whether you're doing a show that might be a dating show, that's quite honed into one topic. Or even if it's a show about working, often you don't have that other dynamic of the partying and the going out and seeing those relationships. So I think it's managed to capture so many people's, you know, and obviously we get the whole like, my husband won't watch any reality TV except your show.

I mean, that's like a constant thing. Because I just think there's just so many things there, people. I love the drama side of it. That's what I'm there for. I don't know how you go. And I have, sorry, I have so many glasses. Yeah, we too shoo. First one, practicalities.

I get C-6, so this is not the life for me. How the fuck do you go out on the nights out that you do and then go up in the morning? Yeah. And do your job. Cills me watching that. I get asked this all the time. And even during the show, like, I, we recently just filmed there like six weeks ago or something and we party so hard and

we work like this year I worked incredibly incredibly hard um probably one of the hardest I've ever worked and I would even be like how is this happening again? I'm like how and we would get we get lit like we're so tired um you know where I was barely sleeping this season the boat was hot so I was probably only getting like six hours rest period at night and by the time you've gotten into pajamas you've wind down I was getting four to five hours a night sleep if I was lucky so and then you know the nights

the nights out and you are you're like you're excited so you're you know you're like say you're not going to get that pissed but you know two or three margarities and I can handle my alcohol and like a lot and three margaritas down I'm like I'm pissed and yeah I would you know we'd be out to like two in the morning and back up to work and during this

I'm like how are we doing this but the reality is is we have to like what's the alternative like I can't like I'll get fired and you just kind of have this goal you're like it's six weeks

I just have to get through this but it's pretty impressive it's a skill It's so impressive I get tired just watching Yeah I think anyone can do it it's just that whole thing

I don't know if Al could do it I look I'm telling you when people under pressure. When it gets too hot, Elsa, she wants to punch the air. But if it's your job and you're, you know, that mental thing of just going, it's just six weeks, it's your job.

Because the alternative is you don't do it and you're going to be fired. Yeah. And it's that you do not get a good edit on that show if you don't do the job well. No, and you will get fired. Someone doesn't get up for work. I'm going to be like, they have to go.

Yeah, yeah. So you find this real skill and, you know, you know what you're there for it's six weeks and hopefully you know we have had people on the show that that don't drink as much and they go to bed which is absolutely fine and they do lose out in story time or you know storyline or whatever which is absolutely fine and how you do hope the hope is especially as the chiefs to you and kind of the face of of the franchise I do want fun crew that's that's part of the fun of it that is part of that dynamic of like what are they're going to behave like when they're out drinking, you know, that awkwardness if they've hooked up

and then can they proceed with work the next day? And I think that was, that's kind of one of my strong things as people every time are like, you find that boundary of being able to be so professional at work and then get so lit outside of work and be able to kind of rein it back in. I'm like, I guess I do have that scale. So it's all part of the fun of it. Do you, I mean, because obviously you are that anchor. I can't believe I just said that. of the series. I don't know how else to say it, but you know what I mean?

Hook. No, that's bad too. I don't mean to all these puns. But does that mean, do you ever find yourself tipping over into like producing territory where you're like,

I've got to make this a good show as well and I kind of have to bring out the drama or do you have to find yourself producing? You know, I think the first year I certainly like, I was lucky to get recasted. I think the producers really struggled with me.

they'd be like, oh, you know, like, what about this? Or, you know, even in green screens, what do you think about this? I'm like, I think my say, I think what I used to say was I don't care. And I just genuinely didn't. They'd be like, what do you think of? You know, Sally in the galley? Oh, Rining. And I'm like, I don't care.

And because I don't. I'm like, whatever. Like, she could do what she wants if she shit at her job. So that was a struggle. And I didn't really understand how the show worked. And for me, I was just there to to be myself, do a good job and to go home. I had no intention of being recasted. So I think that's part of why I was recasted because I was so authentic and I still produced

good TV because I have no filter and I'm very direct. But as the years have gone on, yes, I care more and more about the show. I'm more invested in it. I love the show being success. I love being part of a successful season. And I'm not there to produce storyline, but it is important to. follow through with story and that's what I've learned it's important that like if you are annoyed with someone not not not but voicing that you know because it's obvious like yeah if the chef is

annoying me and not doing what I'm asking you know and I kind of storm off it's whole it's not fair to the viewer for me not to say that and not to follow through with that story so yeah I've learned you know how that the show runs do you ever get embarrassed when you, okay, so I, I would, I have the worst anxiety. I can literally, like, sniff a glass of wine and then the next day. I'm like, everyone I know hates me. Oh, I can't. Like, I'm, if I'll, like, see the Bridgety, I don't care so much about the crew.

It's the fear of, you know, 30 sober people watching me. Oh, my God. I can't. 30. Don't see way more than 30, sober people watch you. No, no, no, no. But it gets edited. Okay.

So they're seeing me like, it's probably, yeah, it's probably about 30. Between camera, audio producers, post at it. Oh, my God, that's great 30. But that's like the raw, like, you know, they're not going to, yeah, there's like stuff I'm going to do that they're not going to show. Like, like I say in this season, it was so hot, like so hot. And all, if I'm drunk, I'll sleep naked. So I'm pretty good about putting my pajamas.

in the cabin bathroom and I do the same every time. I go in, go to the bathroom, strip naked and I'm like, oh, pajamas. I put the pajamas on. This season, I forgot to do that the first like two or three nights, but it was so hot in the cabin and I would wake up. I mean, and there was no bunk above me. So the camera was right on me. I was so completely naked. I'm pretty sure I was like scratching myself because it was so hot. I would wake up and I'd be like, ah, actually. want to die. I want to die. I want to die. Yeah. And so the edited version I, yeah, it's embarrassing, but I don't care as much. Same with my castmates because they're drunk as well, but the sober people watching in real time and like us eating food or like making out or dancing and we think

we're so sexy. I'm like, oh, honestly. I've never, and it's a very unique experience that you're in, the position that you're in where you've had to watch yourself snogging. I can't. I can't. Someone asked, oh, we're talking about I'm Love Island. And I was like, God, they're really intense. It's like, you know, when you kiss when you're 13, when they go in for their first day. I don't know. I find it. I'm like, and then someone asked me like, oh, what's. And I was like, oh, fuck, I've forgotten that I've kissed on TV. And I was like, I don't know. Am I like that? I was like, I thought it off. And then I thought it's a hypothetical question. And then I was like, well, I'm always really drunk. So it's okay. And I think I'm really sexy and like, and I have my producer. the first kiss, me and Gary Hatchy was, I barely remembered that kiss and she's like, it was so hot and I'm like, I'm going to be sick, I'm going to be sick. That's a lot. And then my friends struggle to watch it as well. It's, yeah, and I'm always really drunk and I'm always like, my God, it's so embarrassing.

Oh my God, I just couldn't do it. I would literally die. It's really embarrassing. Do you care more about the producers seeing it than like the public seeing it? Yeah. that's cool yeah i i i definitely care i'm lucky i care a lot about what my friends think what the you know the producers are my friends i'm very conscious the next day i'll pretty much always text being like i am so sorry if i was ever rude if i was and i you know i'm generally

a very good drunk but you don't know what you're like when you're drunk you know it's like hurting cats and they're trying to get you in the van and you know sometimes maybe i am rude not rude maybe i'm just ignoring them and i'm just so embarrassed every time and they're like days you were fine i'm like okay because my anxiety's so high much more about the producers i think yeah yeah that's good you mentioned that like if someone doesn't go get like really drink and go out with you guys they get less story time like screen time is that what you mean yeah screen time well i think if you're in bad or i mean you're not like it's not like you're getting less screen time but you know it's it's all about story yeah so so with talking about that like story time screen time i always wonder

with a reality TV show, is it really obvious if you're one of the cast members? Is it really obvious when other cast members are fighting for screen time? To me, it's obvious. Is it? Yeah. Really? And is it quite common? We'll usually have like one a year.

Yeah, it's, you know, elevated voices when a camera walks in, doing weird. Like, I'll just walk out of the room. I'm like, I'm not entertaining this. You know, doing like weird dances, like, you know, be like, oh, the food. It's coming. Like, why are you doing some weird, quirky dance now? Oh, God, that just gives me, like, you know, when you were a kid and your mom would say, stop showing off.

Yeah, yeah, it's exactly like that. Yeah, so for me, it's quite obvious, but it's, yeah, it's, you know, the most story you're going to get is being, you know, your full authentic. It sounds cliche, and we get the same, we get the same kind of speech every year. It is fully true. Like, if you are authentically yourself, you're going to get screen time. Yeah, I have a question. when you say if a camera walks in you are on a boat like it's a big boat but it's still a boat

like what's because I think in Love Island and stuff whenever we talk to Love Island or any reality TV show a lot of people say like oh you forget the cameras are there yeah I imagine that's very difficult on a sailing boat no you do really because it's kind of like this camera here when I have to do anything face on I get really uncomfortable so like I will struggle on Instagram. Not, I mean, like, it's fine, but I don't really enjoy it. Promo, interview, if anything is full on, I really kind of close up. Whereas with a camera like this, this is what it's like.

Did they have a cameraman attached to the camera? Yeah. But you're highly engaged now in what you're doing. Yes. So you're not going to think about that. And this is a very fast pace, busy environment. When you're drunk, for example, maybe it's not when you're drunk, but like, if you're like barreling down the corridor to like go and communicate something to someone is there not someone

following you with a camera yeah is that not like but you're in the moment so you're in the moment you care you should you should be caring about your job you should be it's very high pressure it's very fast pace okay and i do i will say i'm very lucky because in my role as chiefs to you i'm pretty much always engaging with someone the very odd time i go to do cabins on my own which is very rare I do, I'll see him there and I'm like, oh, this is so awkward I'm like, and it's just me and the cameraman and I'm like

Yeah, I don't like that at all. Don't look at me. Or like sometimes very rarely again I'll be like, in my cabin getting changed and it's just me and him and I'm like, oh no, they're coming to your cabin. Of course they come to your cabin. They're in the cabin all the time. Oh my God, of course they are. Yeah.

So do they like look away when you're getting changed? Are they looking through the lens? I am so open. Like I do not care at all. Like I'm such an open book with getting changed. So I've never really noticed. But I think for other people, they're probably a bit more. Yeah, they're definitely super respectful. Like the cameramen are so respectful or women. They're, you know, I've never felt. Yeah, I think they'll leave like a few. I don't know. I've never really thought about it. Like I'm doing what I'm in the moment. I'm getting changed. I've never really thought about it. Come with me, guys. Yeah. Oh, God, yeah. Okay. But you really, you honestly really, really do forget about them. If your head is in the right place, which you'll be at work or the person you're speaking to, you really do forget about them.

Okay. Thousands of questions. I know. Do you like, because people forget about the cameras being there, do you kind of see, like, the mask slip, masks slip a little bit. You know, someone joins the boat as one kind of person and then. Um, yeah, I think eventually everyone's real sight comes out. I think, you know, I think you get everyone's full authentic self at the very end when the cameras stop. Uh, you know, even myself like and maybe not because I'm trying to be inauthentic, but I'm trying to be professional. I think,

you know, I'm a very different person when I'm sat with my friends on a Friday night to the person I am on a Monday morning at work. And, and so I think you get that kind of full scope of people when we do finish filming. But yeah, I think you get a good essence for people. And as the time goes on and as the more we get tired, yeah, the more we see everyone's true colors. Does the mask slip or really we're just getting to know. I mean, at the end of the day, if you remember on day one, we don't know anyone. And again, you're a very different, I'm a very different person to when I say hi, my name is Daisy to week six or I'm like, you're bat shit crazy. I can't stand you, You know, because I've spent six weeks of them and I'm...

Or, you know, I love you. You're an amazing person. I didn't know that person from the first day. Yeah. And so I feel more relaxed by the end of it, as I'm sure they do as well. We are delighted to announce our biggest live show ever. For one night only,

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should I delete that fans. Brought to you by SimProve, the UK's number one gut supplement. When you did your first season, were you shocked by the edit? Because, and I don't want to throw this show under the bus, because it's all the same. Like, you are filming six weeks

and making it into, you know, like you're filming 24 hours in a day and you're making it into like 30 minutes. Yeah. So were you shocked, by the edit the first time? I think the only thing I was shocked about was how little is shown. Really, it's 10%.

Like you said, you're filming for six weeks for 24 hours a day. And then by the end of it, you're getting, if you get 16 episodes, that's 16 hours worth. That's not even a day on the boat. So I was shocked by that and I was shocked at how many storylines don't make. Like so much happens in six weeks, just so, so much. So I'd be like, wow, I can't believe they did. show that that was pretty big but as regards to how i was portrayed or anybody else no i felt it was pretty pretty accurate to what happened guests can we talk about your experiences with guests

what's the worst experience you've had with the guest either on the show or off the show oh yes definitely on the show have been my worst experiences yeah off the show the majority have been really nice. You know, on the show, I'm not going to name her name because she gets upset when I name her name, but her surname is similar to Daisy. And I'm sure if you watch the show, you'll know who she was. Great TV. I mean, like, I will give it to her. Yeah, I think she got pretty heavily trolled after that. But, I mean, it was, it was great. Yeah, just so rude, just so entitled. And her husband was, you know, an absolute piece of work. But they were probably one of the worst. and then we had other guests that, you know, they threw money at me and they were just screaming

my name and I'm haunted by my name. But yeah, definitely on the show, been the worst. And now I've gotten used to it. Like I kind of almost want the crazy guess because it's just great TV. It takes the heat off of me. The crazier they are. The more they don't hone in on my own drama. It must be so hard. If you're with people that are rude and entitled and you have to, to do whatever, even or whatever, but like, what they ask you, that must be so hard. Surely you want to just tell them to fuck off at some point. I think again, you know, I have been asked this a lot and even like pre the show. I've only ever done hospitality, you know, from my jobs when I was 16, you know, I was

cafe, restaurants, bars, right up until university. I just don't know anything different. And I'm kind of okay with it. Like, I'm very good at being like, this is my job. I'll, like, roll my eyes or, you know, be like, God, they're such an asshole. But it doesn't really go further than that. I just don't really care. Like, whatever, if I'm getting paid.

Well, that's the thing, yeah. Yeah, it just doesn't. And it is really good money in it. Yeah. Yeah, well, it's tax-free. That's mainly why it's such good money. And then obviously you're not paying for accommodation. You're not paying for your food.

The actual salary, if you break it down, it's not that amazing for how much we work. But without all those other elements, yeah, it's a lot of cash in hand. Yeah. Well, yeah, because you get tips and like, oh, I don't I get so angry on your behalf and I'm watching and then they don't get a good tip. But then you do lose sight of my, because, well, I don't know, because the guests, I always think this for the guests as well. When they behave badly, I'm like, this was your one chance at TV.

At least you guys are being filmed for six weeks. They're being filmed for like 30 hours. I'm like, this was your one chance to not be a massive twat. Well, this is, and even like, I'll, you know, I'll just be like, you know, you're not having fun. Like, I don't complain about anything. Like, I'm such an easygoing person because. I'm like the only person, if I'm bringing negativity towards like a dinner or whatever,

like the only person who's really being affected is me. And that's what I always find really strange. If they're kind of rude or whatever, I'm like, okay, we'll go back down to the chat. And that negativity starts to spread because, you know, I believe in energy and I believe you can feel that negativity. And I'm like, you're just ruining your own holiday. Like, I don't really care at the end of the day. Like, um, so yeah, that's, that's on them.

I just, yeah. Yeah. He does a shame for, I mean, I would be so embarrassed. I would just be so embarrassed. It is interesting. It is, you know, when people's watching people's behavior and whether it be a cast member or a guest, I am like, why are they behaving like that, you know, and they, you know, really struggle. It's the same every time to take accountability afterwards, you know, as from a psychological point of view, it's, it is fascinating to be on reality TV and to watch people's interactions the way we're able to. and just you know the level of you know maybe denial delusion um self like not being self aware

yeah like a lot people do struggle with it and i think reality tv is that place that you can really see it's a horrible little mirror isn't it oh yeah it's uh it's certainly a mirror 100% that not everyone can handle um looking at themselves it takes a yeah i think if you're self-aware you can. I think that's a big part of it. Have there been points where you've really struggled with how you've been portrayed or how you feel that you've been portrayed, how people have perceived you? Because beyond actually recording this, this is going out to millions of people. Like, is there a point that you struggle with the noise or the fame or whatever? I think, honestly, the times I've struggled most is actually during filming. I actually find the show quite validating.

there have been points like, you know, in the most recent season, sailing season five, where I was classic clashing with my shoes. Danny pulls me aside and it's like, you shout at us, you, you know, you're really mean to us. And I was, I was like, sorry, what? I was so in awe. And I'm like, you know, I really had to self-reflect. I was incredibly upset. That day was horrific. I'm so close to walking off the boat. And I, you know, I had to go. to, you know, I call my parents and I was like, do I share, like, am I missing something? I'm like, you know, it was, I didn't mean, it was a form of gaslighting because I really, I was so confused. And I'm good at self-reflecting. And I was like, was I shating? And I'm like,

you have to tell me if this was happening. And they're like, no, they're like, you're direct and you're stern. And you certainly can captivate when you speak, because I'm direct and I'm stern. But do I shite? And I'm like, I don't think I shouts. And they're like, no, like raising your voice. is very different to being authoritative in your tone. And, you know, I was hysterical. And then it, you know, the season gets played back. And I actually find that a lot more validate it. I'm like, oh, that's how I remembered speaking to them or that's how I remembered.

And I'm actually quite a nice person to work with, I think. A lot of other flaws. But I don't think that's one of them. And there's been other points, you know, throughout filming as well. So during filming, I think I struggle a lot more with that because people do question, people make you question your reality or do you say, oh, you've behaved a certain way and I'm like, did I?

Was I really like that? And then when I watch it back, it's very much how I remembered what had happened. That's interesting. I would have thought it would have been after filming when the show is airing and obviously you have no control over the edit and that's not to say that they're going to edit it

in a malicious way, but you're cutting down all of this footage to this tiny amount. And so there's going to be stuff in there, surely that you're like, no, but I didn't mean it like that or like... Well, no, there's definitely things that I've, you know, like we said at the beginning of the reunion, where it was kind of made to look like it was the summer we were talking about, which it wasn't, it was the weekend.

And that was... Sorry, we said that off mic. Yeah, so we were talking about the season four reunion. Yes. And as a viewer, so I'd been confused because as a viewer, it had made out that you'd done the reunion, which is still what I think. thought you do the reunion you have the whole summer and then you and honestly the whole show looked like that love triangle went in deeper than it did and at least in my opinion um you know we

really didn't keep we don't like I'm friends with Gary but it wasn't like this thing that continued off camera and yes we have a role to play in the story that story was very real at that time but it made it look like that was our whole life and it's like no we live in other parts of the world we have other things going on we have other friends relationships and so things like that for the editing yes that i'm like okay that's not exactly what happened but the most of it is true of course there are some parts of it where i'm like that's not really how that went down or that wasn't what i meant or whatever but you know i've very much been able to remove myself and be like it's just for entertainment it doesn't define me it doesn't those moments aren't whether they

were not full reality that's okay it's just a tv show it's and i guess you can't get bogged down in like nobody didn't mean this now you can't get bogged down in that because you'll be you're just playing like an endless game there aren't you 100% yeah and i think when i watch it oh like it will take about two hours to watch it because i have to pause it and be like actually what i meant was blah blah blah blah blah but you know they can't show that whole conversation that's you know it's it's purely for entertainment um they you know we've they have an hour to show that episode they can't show your whole inner workings your whole thinking of what led you to that point yeah which yeah sometimes i struggle with but now i've definitely been able to kind of having gone through good

seasons and bad seasons be like this does not define me if they want to say that that's absolutely fine. Do you feel like the public will move with you through a good season and a bad season? Like if you feel like, oh, I didn't do my best job or I didn't get the best edit or whatever, like do you feel, because quite often with a lot of things, the public will leave you where they found you. So it's like if they don't like you on a first impression, they'll kind of just like not like you, whatever. But do you feel like with below deck fans that they want the best for you or they're willing to see you grow, they're willing to come with you? question um i've definitely seen i've definitely seen other people have a great first season and then

their second season again i think it's it's lack of authenticity i think they they might come in really strong and and then they kind of show a different side to them and and viewers turn in them my viewers or or fans or followers or whatever you want to call them definitely turned on me in season four, my third season, which I didn't expect because I had a great season. Okay. And that, and when Colin and I really fell out

was very long after filming. And so I kind of left that season being like, oh, everything was like whatever. Okay. And I got heavily, heavily trolled. And it was kind of the reunion that kind of saved me again. And that the reunion, I kind of was able to get a bit more of my side of the story and was like it's not as clear cut as it looked. And then of course a lot of people, especially women, were like, oh, this was actually a lot more complicated than we viewed it as. And then the last season really surprised me because I felt like I had a really, really bad season. I felt like I wasn't myself. I was in a really bad headspace. I felt like I wasn't the best stewardess I could be. And the viewers like were just so like,

I'm their hero again. I was like, oh, I wasn't expecting that. So you never really know where they're going to fall. But I think, you know, the great thing of being in that space for so long and kind of having four seasons out there. People love to see that up and downness and they want to see you come back out of it. And if you're fortunate enough to have that time on TV that you're able to have that roller coaster, you know, it's not great if you have that won and done and you're, you were just negative. Or so. Yeah. Or even just two seasons. and the first one you were great and the second when you weren't and you don't get to come back and redeem yourself, I think that's really tough, but I've kind of had this bit of a journey

with them and I feel very comfortable in who I am and I'm fortunate in that way. You know, I'm a lot older than a lot of these people on reality TV and yeah, I'm kind of okay with it and I think the viewers love seeing that kind of vulnerable side and when I struggle and then they kind of come back with me when I'm back in a good headspace and that's norm. I've been doing it five years, of course, I'm going to have. I think that's probably why, sorry, I think that's probably why they came with you on season five and was everyone was happy, because season four, sorry for people who haven't watched sailing up, but also, where have you been and why you're listening to this?

But if you, like, you did have a really tough time on the season, and it was, I was literally screaming at the TV during the reunion. I was so angry. And then obviously I put on Instagram and everyone was also angry. So I think it was nice, that's what was nice for season five was to feel that you were like. Well, I think a lot of people thought I wasn't going to come back. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think a lot of people thought, you know, even my friends and stuff because I'd had such a tough season.

And then I carried that on going into season five. And I was like, no, I was like, just because you've a bad day at work or, you know, lots of people have crappy things go on. They, you know, whether it be grief because of a lost, loved person or a breakup or a divorce or you've just found out your, you know, ill, whatever it is, we all have challenges and you still got to get up and go to work. So I find it really surprising that so many people thought I wasn't going to come back after a bad season. I was like, no, I was like, it's my job. It's, you know, of course I'm going to show up and just hope to do better. And, you know, and yeah, you kind of go through the cycle of it. It was good for me to go through that because I did have three, well, two really great seasons and

season four was where things fell for me and between getting trolled by the viewers and having that really difficult reunion and then kind of starting season five in a bad space. What were they trolling you for? Oh, Colin was perfect. I'm disgusting. Does that not piss you off so much, though, that you knew he wasn't being great and you knew he wasn't being kind? At the time, it was really, really difficult.

I was so, I struggled so much. much to film season five. I was, and the girls weren't fully wrong. I was not fully present. I was so in last year. It was airing at the exact same time as we were filming. Oh, that's a mind fuck, isn't it? Yeah. And I was just, I was so getting trolled. I couldn't help but be on my phone. I was so consumed in it. But I learned so much from that season, like having come out of, you know, at the time you think you're not going to come out of it. And so I am grateful I did go through that because now I know it doesn't define me. Now, I was so worried my story was going to be left there. I was, that was my biggest concern. I was worried I wasn't going to get

recasted. I was worried that that was going to be where my story left, that I was just this awful person who didn't deserve this amazing guy, like such BS. But, you know, I did come out of it. I did get through the other side. And we just filmed and I felt like I had a great season and I'm really excited for everyone to see it and I you know and I kind of proved to myself that I'll get through it and even and again this cliche thing of like when you do get trolled or you have a bad period people are so quick to forget I thought that was like that was it I was just going to get troll the rest of our life that was all anyone was going to remember me and then the season stops and people just forget about it yeah they just move on to the next thing but also they did come

round to your side I think on the reunion the reunion helped the reunion I was a huge best way too much wide way too much crying and I did look pretty messy but I I definitely um but you know what again it's me it's it's fully authentic me I really struggle with my you know my emotions and getting them out I'm not well articulated when I'm that hyper emotional I am a very hyper emotional person it's you know one of my core things about me and one of the things I struggle most with because I just feel things so deeply. So at the time, yeah, I was embarrassed and I was frustrated that I wasn't able to articulate myself. I was kind of came in so messy. But now I look back and I'm like, well, that's me. That's who I am. That's, you know, and that's who that's who Colin is.

He's just very well articulated. He can kind of spin things. It's, you know, it showed our true authentic selves. And I'm like, you know what? If you're going to hate me for being a messy emotional person. I'm okay with that, but it happened that a lot of people came back around and saw me as very vulnerable and saw what I was going through. So I think it did help benefit me and benefited that I'm not this cold-hearted person that were playing these two men against each other. No, that is not what happened. I went into that season knowing that he was sleeping with this other girl. So my boundaries went up. Like, you know, if I hadn't had that information, maybe things would have panday different.

That's not his fault. That's not my fault. But yeah, I was like, you're sleeping with someone else who she is saying that she's in love with you and now you want to be in a relationship with me and you work together on a boat. I was like, no, like, it's a lot. I don't know how you let half truths like that exist.

Like how you did that whole season having that nugget of information, which you just have. Well, we spoke about it on camera, but I knew it wasn't relevant to the storyline. It got spoken about on camera. But they just edited it out. Yeah, it just didn't get. It just wasn't part of what was happening.

And they, you know, they can't show everything. But yeah, no, it was, no, I wasn't keeping that quiet. Like, even Gary and I had conversations on camera and he's like, you do know he's getting back with this girl. And I'm like, no, no, I'm fully aware he is going to get, like, he can. But that edit then makes Colin, like, the best guy ever because you're having these conversations. Of course you're having this conversation to Gary then, because, like, he's, because you know that. Like, because you're bonded over that. So it's relevant.

But if they're edited out, then it does make Colin look perfect and it does look like, poor Colin. Does that not make you a bit annoyed? That made me so, I'd be annoyed. No, at the time, it made me annoyed. Like, you know, for sure. But, you know, it's, again, it's just, I know the truth. My friends know the truth.

It's just a TV show. It took a while. Like, there was a good year there that it was, you know, but, you know, I got to come back and it's so in the past now. And, you know, I wish Colin all the best. he's with that girl. And it's just a period of my life. Yes, at the time it was really difficult.

But I don't feel like me and Colin were ever going to have a successful relationship, whether this girl was in the picture or not. He can get his perfect at it. I don't, you know, I don't really care. I'm, I was authentic to myself. And if I don't look perfect, well, I'm absolutely fine with that. Yeah. I am a messy person, like, especially when it comes to relationships.

I was so unsuccessful. I am hyper emotional. I am not the easiest person to date. I'm a hell of a lot easier now than I was, you know, 20 years ago. So I'm growing just at a really slow pace. Like a bonsai tree. Yeah. And it's, yeah, exactly. It's just, yeah, there's all these different parts to me. And, you know, I'm in a good headspace now and I can look at that and be okay with it. Yeah, I'm fine with it. It's just my job. And like I said, it just does not define me. And anyone who knows me. Luckily, I don't really care with the public thing. That's really cool. Yeah, good on you. Can I ask about, because obviously, I mean, I'm a Bravo fan. I have been for a long time,

primarily because, actually, I don't know if you've listened to Watch What Crapins. Yes, they're great. They're absolutely great. They're my favorite, all-time favorite podcast. I love them so much. I saw them in London, actually. Weirdly, the same place that we played the night before. played a lady played i don't know why we spoke at the night before um love them so much anyway but but i know through being a bravo fan and seeing other bravo fans and seeing like i'm on like i'm on watch what crap and like facebook groups and stuff bravo fans are passionate god you yeah you're gonna have to get them on i'm sure you rejointed i would i would they cried when they came on stage when i saw them live i was i just love have you heard them do sailing or do you only listen

No, I have, do you know what, I've kind of stopped listening to everything but the catch-up ones because I haven't had chance to watch anything and behind on everything. So you listen to the episodes without watching the show that they're talking about. I just love them, yeah. You could get the whole episode, though, because they do it pretty much from, like, word to word, yeah. What are they like with you? Do they? So they, it was actually quite funny because they do this, like, crazy lepracon, like voice.

I'm like, I do not sound like. like that. And I, someone asked me in a, or like a, like, ask me anything. Do you listen to them? And I was like, yeah, I don't think they like me. And I was like doing it in jest. And, you know, I, I don't know if they like me or not. But of course, they're like, oh, Daisy, you know, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, I don't know if they're trolling me. Anyway, they kind of had said on their podcast, they were like, oh my God, someone must have sent to them and was like, Daisy thinks that we don't like. We think Daisy is amazing. They were so sweet about me and then I was listening to it and they were doing their watcher at crappies and I wasn't nominated and they were like, they were doing sailing out

at the time and they were like, Daisy's not nominated. We need to nominate her and I was like, oh my God, I'm so touched. Didn't win, but that's okay. They were very much on my side for season five. Yeah, no, they're great. They're very, very funny and yeah, what they do is brilliant. But going back to the Bravo fans, like me being intense, but they do, they like live and by each episode and they're very strong in their opinions on the cast mates, cast members

and stuff. I wonder, does Bravo have any kind of duty of care when it comes to the trolling that, you know, if someone's having a bad season? Because they do, they get like an absolute influx of hate when someone's having a bad season. It's crazy. I've seen it. Is there any kind of duty of care from Bravo? I don't know because I haven't needed this. Things have definitely changed from my first year of filming to now. And I think that's for any reality TV show. Obviously, this is still a relative, you know, whatever it's been around for 20 years. It's still new.

We're always learning. You know, I was actually listened to a podcast of the BBC one, I think it was BBC one, about the transition of reality TV throughout the years and going kind of from real world and big brother to where it is now. and things do have trends, things do change, policies change, you know, it's a learning curve and this year especially we saw a lot of changes and whether be on site kind of what's the word like support. You know, I've been doing this five years. I have a great relationship with the production team with Bravo. I've never really needed that support. I'm very vocal as well when I do

but I think it is great that they're being more present for the junior cast members and kind of helping them navigate that when it comes to trolling again I don't know I'm pretty feel pretty confident that if they if somebody reaches out to them and it's like I'm not dealing well with this and I know that they've rammed up the therapy you know when I first started you do like a pre-psych a post-psych I think this year I'm having to do like four or five and that's great yeah no it's definitely evolved over the last five years and I mean they call me and I'm like, yeah, I'm fine. I'm like, my roommate's my therapist.

But it is great for people who kind of need that support. And I fortunately don't, I'm very lucky in the position I am with, A, myself, awareness and B, the relationship I personally have with the kind of producers. But, yeah, I like to think, I like to think these people are good people that if they reached out to them, it's like, I'm not handling this hate well. but you know it's you just have to turn off your Instagram you have to like I know that's easier said than done but I do find it interesting when people kind of have that level of hate and can't handle it but just kind of sit there and scroll through it because a lot of these people

don't even really make money off Instagram so I'm like what do you you know why are you yeah I feel it is different when you it is your business maybe you have a podcast or you've merch or you get you know quite well paid brand deals but a lot of these junior cast members they don't make money so I'm like I don't know why you're doing that validation yeah and I think of this I mean there's something the psychology of it is fascinating but there is something sort of marvellously terrifying about the about the noise that can come like from your phone and and I can understand how you get sucked into it but also like if your reputation you know, like if it is your one shot and you are a junior,

because it's like maybe the reason that you, I mean, obviously it sounds like you're just, you're very self-aware anyway, which is a good thing to be. But if you were doing this 15 years ago, do you think you'd have the same, like, head on you for it? I do feel really grateful that I went into it when I was older. I have always said that.

You know, I think I was 33, yeah, 33 when I'd started, when I first filmed, just turned 33. And that I definitely do think attributed to it. saying that I think I'm a relatively self-aware person anyway. Yeah. I think I always have been. I think that's part of my kind of directness and just my personality. But yeah, I do think it would have been different.

I see people who are incredibly young coming into this. And still, the age gap's getting bigger as I get older. They're getting younger. I'm like, oh, crap, how am I still here? And kind of working with 22-year-olds. It makes the dating thing harder. I keep thinking that. I'm like, oh my God, yeah, the, you know, like if that's an element of the show,

which obviously it is in the story. It's like the options are... Oh, it doesn't seem to bother me. I still seem to be able to get in where I can. Every year I'm like the same thing. I'm like, I'm not hooking up with anyone. Don't even try it every year of the same attitude. And every year I managed to find someone.

Oh my God. I honestly couldn't cope. I'm luckily very young at heart and I think I look young. You do. Oh, you look so young. Yeah. So I kind of managed to. to fit in and kind of worm my way in with the 25-year-olds.

Like, I totally belong here. Do you think you'll do it forever? Oh, God, no. I hope not. I mean, I'll do it, you know, for as long as they'll have me and as long as I'm enjoying it, which is at the moment I am, you know, like I said, I've just filmed. I still love it. It's, you're given such a short window to be able to do this.

And it's not like other things where you can say like, oh, I'll put this down for a few years and come back to it. Like when this is over, it's over. There's no coming back or in five years time being like, I'm ready to come back as Tuesday you again. They're like, Daisy, you're done. You're almost 50. And so as long as the opportunity is there, you know, and that's, whether it's one or two seasons, I don't know. Maybe my time is done. Who knows? But, yeah, I love it. And yeah, we'll just have to see. Has there ever been anything that you've watched back and just been like, that was the most embarrassing thing, that, like, the reunion. Was it?

The reunion was, it took me a while to watch that. It was probably about six months. I tried to watch it at the time and I was like, I actually can't. Oh, really? Well, I think what's easier about the show is the show is edited to be quite funny. And it's edited to be, even the tough moments or the kisses, it's edited to be enjoyable. And I do enjoy it. I do enjoy watching it, whereas the reunions are quite unedited.

and I keep getting too drunk in them and they're very raw, they're very real and obviously that really messy, difficult reunion. Yeah, I was embarrassed about my behavior. I was, I just couldn't articulate myself. And the guys, you know, were smart. They push my buttons and I allowed them to. And that's the kind of person I am.

I'm like, I can in relationships, I wish I was more collected. I wish I wasn't so reactive, but I'm such a reactive person I just bite, keep poking me and I will bite and that's what I let it happen. That's not a bad thing to be embarrassed about though it's not like, I don't know,

it's not like, you treated someone badly or... No, yeah, yeah, that's fair, I don't... You're allowed to be emotional and... Yeah, but I wish I was a little more put together. Oh, no, I don't know, that just that and the make... I'm just so reactive. But you know what? That's why I have a job.

I'm reactive because it's... Yeah, exactly. So I have to... If I was more collected, I probably wouldn't still be there. But, yeah, that's... And you're really good at your job as well. Like, in the actual... I do try.

You're so good at. I do try. I do so I appreciate that. I mean, I haven't got a clue, but... It looks it. It looks. Yeah, you look. No, I do try very hard.

And it's hard, you know, on the boat you have to be that kind of... kind of cast member to be your full vulnerable self and, you know, maybe get into a relationship or have conflict or those things are really hard parts of the show. You know, I don't want to do that. I, you know, I want to be in bed eating ice cream watching Netflix. I don't want to get involved with guys and for 20 million people to watch it. Like that's, that's, that is a really hard part of the show for me. Like having, showing such a personal side. to my personal life and having so many people witness that

and having failed relationship after failed relationship for the world to watch is not easy and I really try to keep that at the back of my mind but you know the rest of it like being good at my job and working hard and again that's hard if I slip up or if I make a mistake and I'm like oh fuck 20 people

are going to watch that but I just have to remember it doesn't define me it doesn't define me it's just a job Can I ask one final question before I let you go? Sorry, just something that's really stressed me out. When the chef is making bad food or like not doing a good job, but you're the face of it, like you're the face of their bad job. Does that not kill you? Because that would kill me. Yeah, it's definitely one of my biggest challenges on the show. And I think that's why the show is such a big part of it is the chef stew dynamic. It's really hard. I, you know, for the chef, it's really frustrating when I, you know, come down and I'm like, you know, this isn't good enough or, you know, I love to say like, are we going to elevate breakfast? And they look at me being like, what the fuck? And I'm like, I mean, not fucking sausages, bacon and rashers. Like, I'm like, you know, let's put out some blueberry muffins. Let's put out some, you know, waffles, some pancakes. Let's elevate it.

Yeah, they're certainly like, who is this person telling me how to do my job? Just as, you know, if a deckhand came up and was like, this is dusty, I'll be like, excuse me? I need to march back outside. But yeah, it's really hard to do that. And that's a real struggle in having to give feedback because I am the eyes and ears and I am that. I don't even really care that I'm the face of it. I'm more that's my job.

And if I don't communicate that back, I'm not doing my job. And that's really hard. That's the difference. As a people pleaser, if I thought anyone wouldn't be pleased, just being the middle person, watching displeasure in both places, I'd be like, I can't. Yeah.

I definitely struggle because I'm a huge people pleaser more with the chef because the guests come and go and I'll never see them again. And that's what makes it. I'm happier to go to the guests and say like, I'm really sorry you're not enjoying this than to go down to that chef. Oh, really? Yeah. Because you're spending so much time with this person. The guests are quite faceless to me. So it's much easier.

I'm kind of whatever. Whereas the chef is a human being. I get anxious for you with the guests. Like that's my anxiety when I'm watching it. And I'm like, this is going to fall on Daisy. This is going to be her problem. I'm quite bitchy, though. Like, I can't hold my own.

So if like the guests say they don't like something and I'll go down to the galley and I'll be like, hey, they don't like this. And they'll kick off. And I'm like, you're all come with you to the guests. I'm more than welcome to bring you. And they kind of shut up real quick then. And I'm like, oh, now you're quiet. Yeah. Just redo the eggs.

Yeah. Oh, my God. Okay. You've got let you go. Yeah. I've learned, though, and I am satisfied. This has been absolutely. brilliant so eye-opening thank you so much of course thank you thank you for having you

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