Should I Delete That? - Did Em mention that she ran London Marathon….
Episode Date: April 24, 2024In this week's bonus episode, Em details her experience of running the London Marathon, and ABSOLUTELY SMASHING IT!Support Em's crowdfunder for The 18 Keys Project here: https://www.justgiving.com/cro...wdfunding/em-clarkson-1Purchase tickets here for our first ever ✨LIVE TOUR!!✨Follow us on Instagram @shouldideletethatEmail us at shouldideletethatpod@gmail.comEdited by Daisy GrantMusic by Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hello, and welcome back to Should I Delete That.
I'm Alex Light.
And I'm M. Clarkson. How you doing, Al?
And M. Clarkson has just completed the London Marathon.
Well, not just a few days ago, but basically just.
I imagine you're still feeling the effects of it.
I should be wearing my, should be wearing my medal.
Why aren't I wearing my medal?
What a loser.
Why aren't you wearing your medal?
Apparently, if you wear your medal around London, you get free Franca Manca pizza, and if you go to one of the Ivy restaurants, I give you a glass of champagne.
Stop it.
And what the fuck am I doing still at home? What a loser?
What are you doing? Frank Anka is like my favourite pizza in the world.
I've never had one.
You've never had one.
I know.
We'll use this as your perfect excuse.
To have one.
Yes, yes.
Go on.
How are you?
Talk to us.
I'm actually really good, but I've got the biggest thank you of my life to.
to give to you and to the podcast listeners because I honestly, I'm going to cry, even thinking
about it. Like, it was the most emotional day in my life. And in the morning, no, not true,
I've had a baby. One of the most emotional days of my, catch myself. One of the most emotional days
of my life. And, um, and Al sent me a text in the morning and she said, like, don't open this,
like, don't watch this until you need it. Like, don't watch it until you're like,
balls deep in the marathon, basically. I was like, okay. And I sort of forgot about it.
it and then well I was good I didn't actually forget because I was like oh should I
watch it early and I was like no I'm not gonna watch it I don't need it I don't need it I
don't need it and then at like mile 22 I felt like my breathing went so weird I talked
about a bit on Instagram my breathing went so so weird and I thought it was panic at the
time but I actually now think I now know it was asthma because I went to a doctor but I was
feeling so like like this and um and I was so emotional and then I was like oh fuck I
need to walk for a bit and I watched this video and when I tell you I was crying the
ugliest tears
walking, obviously like staring at my phone,
like what kind of a marathon?
What kind of a marathon was I running?
And if you don't know, guys,
Alex made a compilation of you guys.
Did you hide your stories from me?
We hid the, I asked M to hide the,
should have delete that story,
to block you from them.
Actually, I probably need to remind us to unblock you.
Yeah, yeah, that's what I thought.
Yeah, so I basically, Al made like a six-minute video
of you guys just wishing me like,
I'll cry again.
Like, I honestly, I was hysterical.
Like, I was just, and people were like, go on M.
and then looking at me like, oh no, she's like medical professionals.
Are you all right?
Don't talk to me.
It was, oh man, it was amazing.
Like, it was just one of the best six minutes of my whole life.
I was so grateful.
It was so not.
People sent the loveliest things in.
And one girl read out a poem by Donna Ashford.
That poem.
That poem.
It was so stunning.
I was just crying.
Honestly, I was like, I just said it.
What am I done to deserve all these nice people?
And, oh my God, all of you, like, you guys doing that.
And then, like, Alex was there with Arlo, which was no mean feat.
Like, I had an easier day than him.
But my friend Sofa and Hogs came with their two kids.
They came with Innie, who's three, and Delilah, who's the same age as Arlo.
Like, so there was the three of them with three kids between them.
And then my mum and my sister were at a different point.
and like my friend Katie was at mile 12 and I wasn't expecting her and it was just like
it meant so much like I just I was like oh man and like yeah and that little um that little
oh I don't know what you call it the thing you put over your shoe lace your shoelace what's
you know yeah and said like go mommy or something like I love you mommy I it was mad
like I've never felt like I've never felt like I've never felt this is so tragic I've
never felt so loved before. Oh, that's so lovely. I'm going to cry again. I just, I was like,
oh my God, what have I done to get so lucky that like all my, like, the messages online were like
ridiculous. Like, they were so kind and there were so many of them. I was like, oh my God,
all these people are in my corner and they don't care how fast they run there just proud of me.
It was mad. And then I was like, oh, I'm crying again. And then it was just the most unreal thing.
And like, like, I don't know. I've run marathons before, but I wouldn't, I wasn't, like,
I wouldn't go back for any of them. But London, I would just do every, like, it was, I was, I
people are so nice.
Like the crowds were so cool.
The signs were so funny.
There were people everywhere.
Other runners, like, I had one girl who was one of my hags.
And I didn't know, you know, like, and I was running at like mile 23, I could like, no, even later, like, mile 25.
Like, it was so close to finish line.
And I just couldn't do it.
And I was walking.
And I just felt this hand on my back.
And she was just like, I'm a hag and you can do this.
Oh, stop it.
Oh, that's going to make me cry.
and she was like
I've been on the struggle bus all day
but I'm going to do it
and you're going to do it too
and I was like oh my god
and like I don't know
that sort of thing happened so much
and actually a guy
who was running for the same charity as her
they were just a really really nice bunch of people
at one point as well
came up behind me and he was like
it's three miles left
you've got this like when I was walking
I was like oh my god
you're so nice
like I don't know
people were just really lovely
like other runners
spectators
and like when I was walking
because I had my name on my t-shirt
people were like
Em, em, em, until I started running again.
I was like, ah, no.
That's so much pressure, though.
I don't.
I was like, guys, I actually can't breathe, though.
Like, my, I'm like, fun, fun, fun.
But also, I can't breathe.
Don't make me run.
That is, I, you know what?
I'm so happy it was such a nice and magical experience for you,
because I know that it has been really hard.
Yeah.
It's been tough to, like, try and juggle everything.
And, you know, it's not being easy.
the training has it at all
and you've got a PB
yeah right a massive one
so Cooper the people that I write
the training app that I became an ambassador for
they were the official sponsors of the marathon
they say on their advertising
it's like PB guaranteed and I was like
yeah I won't believe that when I see it
but I ran 33 minutes faster than my last marathon
that's huge and like this one as well
like if I hadn't like I mean obviously
everyone with the marathon time does it doesn't matter
about the time but I know because of my breathing
Apparently the pollen was really high
So I went to see a doctor
Because I've had asthma
I'm a weezy gal
I've had asthma
Like I've got an inhaler
I just wasn't sure
Anyway when I don't eat dairy
I just don't really have asthma
That's basically how it goes
So generally I'm fine
Like I had a couple of asthma attacks
Like 10 years ago
And then I've been fine
For this whole time
But I just I couldn't catch my breath
And even when the marathon
finished I couldn't catch my breath
And then I went to the doctor
And she was like
I'm seeing loads people in the clinic
There's really high pollen
I was like oh okay
That's fine
Right right right right
I know that if I'd had a check on my breathing, if I'd have more confidence of my breathing.
I'd have known I'd have done sub five and I never could have dreamt to that.
Like I did it in five hours, five minutes, which is so quick for me.
And I wanted sub five and I'm not even annoyed that I didn't get it.
Yeah, for me, it was mad.
And like, you're right.
Like, it was such a big sacrifice and it felt so selfish at times doing this training.
Like, you know, it was time away from Arlo and it was time where Alex had to really step up.
and like I just I think he he realized more than I did like I'm going to cry again but like the
importance of it for like bringing me back to myself and like finding myself postpartum and like
finding who I am as a mom and like yeah it was just so important it just felt so important that
I did it and like yeah yeah and I've done it and I'm just like I'm so proud of myself
you know what that's that's so lovely to hear and I think I think I didn't even I didn't realize that
because I think I've only kind of seen the sacrifice that it's been in a struggle
and you've been, you know, wanting to, you've never going to give up,
but like feeling like you might want to at points.
And it's so, that is actually so true because it's something that was really important to you
before Arlo, wasn't it?
Running was, and it's something that you said to me, like running is the time that's like,
it's time for myself, time that I just don't get outside of running.
Yeah. And like, and I just don't, it's like time when, like, my own head is so chaotic.
Even before I had a kid, like my head's, you know, you watch the way I operate. My head's, you know, it's really full on. Like, it's just time. And it's just like, don't have that. And like, I just have so much peace and like happiness. And I feel so strong. And yeah, I don't know. It just felt like, I can't, I don't know. It just. It's like your meditation. It sounds like it's like your meditation.
yeah yeah I just didn't realize how important it was until like until the very end of the training like I don't think
whenever I went running Alex would always text me like because even in the mornings when I'm so tired that we didn't sleep I'm still breastfeeding like I'm so like I just can't handle this why have I agreed to this marathon like why have I done this
yeah and like every time I'd set off he'd send me a text and my headphones would always read it out to me and he'd always say this time is for you
like I have so many messages from him that just say like this time is for you oh he's the best I know he's the best
And he always said it.
And I'd be like, yeah, no, it is.
And that was a really good mindset shift for me because when I was doing the training
and if it was horrible, I'd be like, this is for me, this is my time.
This is make the most of it because this is for me.
Yeah.
And it was only when I was, and I made this compilation of myself that I uploaded on Friday
before the marathon.
I looked at how far I've come in the last year.
And I can see, I don't, when I look at the girl doing couch to 5K,
Like I can see that it's me
But when I see the one
That is at the end of that video
I'm like I'm so proud of her
Like I'm just saying I see myself in her
And I see who I want to be
Like I've become who I want to be
And like I don't know
It sounds really weird
But I just I realize like
How important it was
No it doesn't sound weird at all
I mean I don't fully you know
Because I'm not a runner
I don't get it
Fucking hate it
I'm the opposite
It's like anti-meditation for me
I start running and like my mind floods with everything that I need to do
and I need to just get back home and do it
no but I get it and how you're explaining it I really do get it
and I think it's clear to see how important this was for you
and you absolutely smashed it
I can't believe it I did fucking smet
although I've got to say I did finish it
and I said to my mum on the finish because I wasn't okay actually
like my breathing
yeah my breathing was just so fucking weird
and I knew I knew if I went to the medical
because I felt physically fine for the first time ever
with all the marathons before it's never felt like good
but I knew that if I went to the medical bit
they'd say
but I couldn't finish it
so I'll just get to the end
and then I realised that running was kind of the same
as walking didn't really make a difference
like I couldn't really breathe either way
so I might as well run
and then I got to the finish line
and I they make you walk really well but I got across
the finish line and my heart was like
I just couldn't breathe and I was trying to speak
and I was like crying and this one woman
oh my God this American lady never met it before
well, never see her again,
she just looked at me and I was sobbing
and she went, are you okay?
And I just was like, no.
And she gave me the tightest hug of my life.
She was like, I am so proud of you.
Like, you've done it.
And I was like, oh my God.
And then I was like sobbing on it.
I was like, okay, I need my mom now
because this is, this is embarrassing.
And I still couldn't breathe and it was really weird.
I actually got to my mom.
Like I'd walked like a mile and I was so cold.
Like I had the tinfoil cape on.
My lips had gone blue.
And when I got to her,
I just, I couldn't speak.
and I was like literally typing on my phone to be like I can't speak because I can't breathe
and then I said sit down like take my belt off take my bra off um and just sit and then it
came back but I was so cold and I said to my mom and I was like I can't do this again like don't
I don't think marathans are for me like I don't think I can do this again and then literally
on Monday I was sitting there and I was like okay so next time it's so weird how the
it's like but can I just also say people say all the time like if you're
you can have a baby you can run a marathon. Having a baby is way better than running a marathon
because at the end of a baby, you have a baby. At the end of a marathon, I was saying that I was like,
the fuck have I got to know for this? Like nothing. A medal? A medal. Yeah, which it's weird to
wear. It is quite weird. Are you going to do it again? Will you do it in a marathon? I would do it
again, 100%. So only London. You wouldn't do others. No, I've now thought it would be how cool would it be
to do the big six? There's like, I can't remember what they all are. But like, like,
New York's one of them, and London's one of them.
So I've already done two.
So I'm like, well, I've done two out of six.
Okay.
So I could go to Paris.
Paris, you could come to that, that way we're.
I would 100%.
No doubt.
Boston, which is so, like, iconic.
Yes.
You could come to Boston.
That'd be fun.
You don't have to come to.
You know, I've got a friend who lives there.
I'd like that.
Tokyo?
Cool.
Should have done it when I was there.
And I can't remember the other one.
It's maybe Berlin.
That's quite cool.
That could be a very long-term goal.
very, very long time.
I know.
Your very lifetime, yeah.
But I just loved London.
I just, I was so proud.
Like, I'm in London, though.
Like, you know, I've always been London.
I'm so proud.
I was just so proud.
And I was so proud of all the London people.
Like, people were so fucking nice.
It's like London at its very best.
I could never imagine everyone being so amazing.
It was, and I got to come home to my own bed.
Like, what a win.
It just,
bring people together, doesn't it, in a way that, I mean, I've never seen any other marathon,
but it's, it's, I've been a couple of times, I couldn't come to yours because I'm away in,
in Cyprus, but I've been a couple of times and it does, it brings people together, like,
no other event that I've ever, ever been to before. There's just like, there's so much,
I think because everyone knows that there's so much, like, good work being done as well,
like these incredible amounts of money being raised for these, these charities that really need,
and it's just, and your charity.
I raised £5,000 just over the weekend.
That's so cool.
I'm so delighted.
And we'll talk about it more on the pod actually
because it was because we interviewed the prison doctor
and what she said really stuck with me
about women and homelessness.
And I was so staggered when I, so 18 keys is a friend of my mum is really involved
with it.
So when I was talking to my mum about,
Because a couple of weeks ago, the government passed something or talked about passing something, which is fundamentally, as far as I understand it, going to make homelessness illegal, they basically are saying that you can't have a foul smell in public. You can't be seen to look as if you're about to put up a tent. Like, you can't be home. Like, you can't be on the streets. Like, you can't be in shop windows, also doorways. And I was listening to the news on that, just being like, where the fuck is our humanity? This is so disgusting.
and then I was thinking about the
and then I actually just met
this lovely woman who
live, who's on the streets near
where I live and I
saw her last, the Friday before the marathon
and she didn't speak any English and I was just
I thought how
because she had a sign and she said I'm homeless
and I'm hungry so she was by a Tesco
so I was like I'll go in and get you something
what would you like and she
couldn't speak any
English I was like this must be the most terrifying
place in the whole wide world.
I can't think of anywhere more scary than for her right now in a country where she can't
even speak the language, she can't even ask for the help that she needs.
How is she going to be okay?
So I spoke to my mum about her because I've seen her a lot since actually.
Yeah, anyway, because Aarlo can't speak either, so they've kind of got to go now
where they can't speak to each other where they seem to get hungry.
And I'm anyway, but then I spoke to my mum about her.
and mum was telling me about this project 18 keys
and basically I spoke to this woman Caroline
who's running it and funding it and getting the money for it
and she was telling me that 60% of homeless people in the UK are women
and we just do not see that like you know that's
what we see on the streets does not reflect that
and that's because the streets are so dangerous during the day for women
and sorry during the night for women
so they very often sleep during the day out of sight
so they can be awake at night
and they stay on the buses
they go to like airport terminals
they basically go to like places
that are open 24 hours a day
with CCTV that are warm
because the streets are so dangerous
but she was also telling me
how hostels for men are often a first resort
whereas for women there'll be a last resort
because if you go to a hostel as a woman
you don't get
in most cases
specific rooms
or amenities
gender-based, so you may end up in a shared room with a man or a shared bathroom with men,
which obviously, you know, I think it's crazy statistics about how many women on the streets
are escaping domestic and sexual violence. And obviously, a hostel is not a safe,
not a guaranteed safe place. So women very often don't go to them, and they will finally go
as a last resort, by which point often they are so unwell and in such need of help that the
will turn them away because they are too sick to access what the hospital basically can support
them with. So it's a, like, it's a, it's a horrific tragedy and a crisis and a shame, like great,
we should feel great shame about the state of affairs. So 18 keys is basically this amazing
project that is taking an already existing hostel and it's making it into an intensive
treatment centre for women. And the idea being that they'll, you can stay up to 12,
months and you can receive full like around like full 360 care because so often most
these places at this point are just signposting and they're signposting you to place to things
have been cut you know like with all the cuts that are happening all the time very often
treatment for homeless people maybe facing addiction maybe facing whatever it is you know they're
the first things that do get cut so they're offering full therapy and support helping people
maybe get back with their kids helping women get back into work um get back on their feet get
if that's what they need to do.
And then they've also, what they're funding now,
because they've already funded the sort of bulk of it,
they're now funding these sort of like two,
I mean what they're called,
but like for like the night,
like sort of emergency rooms for the night.
So they should be able to help up to 750 women a year.
Wow.
And yeah,
and you guys were so generous
and we've raised £5,000 for me over the weekend,
which is just make me cry again
because that was just, people were so generous,
which was just so amazing.
Who founded the charity?
What's our story?
Yeah, so it's part of St. Martens in the Field,
Trust, which is a big church in the centre of London.
And this woman, Caroline, is just working tirelessly.
I think she's done a lot of research with a lot about it on the website
and into this issue, basically.
And they've been using the fund of basically,
the Sam Martins and the Trust Trust,
St. Martin's in the Field Trust have been funding this project.
and then what we've done is just
what we've done with the marathon was like specifically
I've just been raising specifically
rather than for their trust specifically for this project
and I think
like if you're up for it out I'd like to do an episode
more specifically about what they're doing
I was going to suggest it
and that we get her on to talk about it yeah
yeah so I think we'll do an episode on that
which would be great amazing and let's put the link
to your fundraising in the show notes as well
yes please just in case anyone's got like a spare pound
literally a spare pound I think people are always like embarrassed
thinking that to you know people who don't have the means that they're embarrassed to you know
to donate what they can which often can only be like a pound a couple quid but imagine and it
goes back to this you know this old thing but like if everyone who's listening to this or everyone who's
downloaded this everyone was to give a pound we'd have the charity would have thousands of pounds
so yeah 10 thousands i think that yeah and and it's you know the people that were donating you know
Many of them, it was like one, two, five pounds, and look, we've got us to five so quickly.
So, yeah.
And that's just, I don't know, it's just the power of kindness.
Like, I do, that's how I feel right now.
I just feel like I'm glowing from just, something about the marathon, but yeah.
And it's like, it's not even my high.
I just feel so, like, honoured to have shared the day with, like, these amazing people.
I was running at one point alongside a couple who were pushing somebody, maybe their son,
in a wheelchair
and he had a breathing tube
feeding tube breathing
and it's like wow
you hit like you're wow
wow it's going to make me cry
and I know
and you know Millie Pickles did it
with with you know
all the photos with blood
just pouring out of her shoe
and like
and that young boy
the 19 year old guy
who was the first
the youngest person ever
to compete London America
yeah oh god I sobbed
at that video
and that lovely guy Paz
I know who
who was running for his son
who he lost in a car accident
and like that lovely man
who had three types of cancer
in a colostomy bag
and he ran it playing
the fucking trombone
that whole way
and like people were just amazing
and I met a woman running
with a fridge on her back.
I mean.
A fridge!
And she was the first woman to do that.
Men do it quite a lot
and she was the first woman to do that.
I want to donate to her too
because my God
doing that with a fridge on your back.
A fridge!
There's another influencer
she called Beck's Cal
Campbell. She did, oh God, I really wish we're recording on our phones, which is really
annoying because I'd love to check it. But she ran for a charity for her parents. I think it was
cancer. I don't know. I'm butchering this. But she is, I think, four months postpartum. And she
did it. Four. So she's the same as me, which is just an absolute joke. Like, I, you know,
an absolute joke. I did couch to 5K at four months.
nearly fucking killed me.
I think that would, yeah, my limit is like stares at the moment.
Jesus, yeah, 14 months and my scar has been sore since I did it.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know how she gave birth, but I know, unbelievable, just insane, incredible.
What era?
That's it, though, like, you just share the day with these people, and it's like, no one gets
up in the morning and does it for no reason.
No one does something like that for no reason, like everybody has their, why.
And the wires are so powerful.
And it's just so levelling.
Yeah.
It doesn't matter if you do it in two hours or seven hours.
And that's the thing.
It really doesn't, does it?
It's so levelling.
It really doesn't.
No, and I think it's one of the only sports where the athletes and the amateurs run the same race.
Yeah.
And there's something so beautiful in that.
And it's so funny because, like, I wouldn't have, I wasn't even interested in what you did it in.
I was just like, has she made it?
Is she okay? Is she at the finish line?
Like, I just, I just don't care.
I mean, to be, to be fair, I don't even know, like,
I don't even know, like, times for, like, what is normal anyway.
But, yeah, it's just, I don't think people really care that much, do they?
It's just, like, just.
People don't care at all.
It's interesting that I do, I never cared.
I was, I'm a very slow run.
I always happen, and I never cared before I had Aarlo, and I think, I don't feel like I had
anything to prove per se, but to come back, I think,
because my pregnancy was so rough and my birth was quite rough, you know, C-sections
are, I mean, every birth is rough in its way, but it strips you back to a point of such
vulnerability and weakness in a way, and such strength as well, but such weakness in
terms of how frail you are and how fragile you are. And a year ago from the marathon, you know,
year ago from now, I still wasn't sitting up in bed confidently.
You know, I was three months post-partum, really.
I couldn't, you know, the stairs were a lot.
I couldn't run.
And I don't know.
And so I, the pace, the speed kind of did matter to me this time
because it was like, look, look what you've done.
Like, you're so much stronger than you've ever been.
And like, how cool's that?
That app.
And that felt like.
Cooper.
Cooper.
Yeah, I'll actually, I think my, I don't know if it's still going.
I'm sure, I hope it is, but if you want to try it, you can do it for, this isn't an ad because
my contract ended, but if you use M2, you can get two weeks for free.
You're speaking to the listeners, right? Not to me. Like, if they want to try it, because
I'm not. You can go over it. Um, yeah, it was just, um, I actually messaged Pete who
found it. He's an amazing guy. He's been through so much. And I messaged him after
because I ran the first little bit with his wife, who's so lovely. And she's been through her so
much and they've both been so, they're just such lovely people. And he's just done something
so cool with that app. And I just can't, I can't tell you how grateful I am. They've completely
changed, they've changed everything. Like, I just, I never could have done. I never could
have done that on my own. I wouldn't have had a clue. And I don't know, it's just, you want to
something really funny though. Go on. So Georgie's upstairs. Oh, she's come to stay. She's had two
strokes in the last month, right? And bear in mind, she's also had stage four cancer twice.
I got out the shower this morning
and she went, I've done something stupid
I'm like, what did you do?
She didn't know, it's really stupid
I was like, what have you done?
And she turned her phone around
and she's entered the ballot
for London Marathon next year.
She's going to bloody do it, isn't she?
I know, she's like, is it just me
that gets like marathon fever
even though I literally can't run
like one kilometre
so next year we'll all be supporting her?
Oh my God, I hope so.
That would be really cool.
I mean, she's been through the ringer physically, so possibly not ideal, but then maybe it is.
I don't know, to get her back straight.
It will be quite jokes.
Love that.
If she gets it now, if she gets it now, I don't be really funny.
Do you have any, apart from your asthma, do you have any physical, have we got like some toe content to look forward to again?
Not even, you know.
Thank God.
I know, yeah, big toe now, she's a little fragile.
She's a little breeze, but she's cool.
Okay.
That's the most important thing.
she's alive and kicking.
Yeah. No, all my toenails, I actually, I think I do actually have Cooper to thank for this as well
because I think I just got my training right. I feel fine. I feel really fine. My knees were
a bit sore, if I'm honest. Well, actually, yeah, Sunday night was bleak. And it's like she,
yeah, so Sunday night, my hips are a bit tight. And my scar, my scar was just tight.
Like, that's got my biggest issue. Yeah, I think it's, you know, your abs and stuff. So my,
my scar was the biggest thing.
But otherwise, I feel fine.
It's Wednesday now.
I feel, I honestly, I was going to go for a rum this morning and then we decided to record.
Oh, please.
I know.
It's like, I'll just go for a little jog.
No, no.
Do not do that.
That's stupid.
Why not?
I feel alright.
Go for a nice walk with Georgie.
Boring.
Boo!
How's like, Bruce, before we wrap it up, talk all about me today.
It's good and about, I mean, I, it's definitely not the same.
exciting as your week has been but we are good for having a nice time it's a little bit difficult
to be out of routine isn't it with a baby i'm discovering it's a bit hard like you kind of
like everything's set up for you i hope you just you you get to a point where everything's set up for you
and it's quite hard to like move all of that to another place um and sleep has gone totally out
the window which is great who is she having we're having a huge issues with that so that's fun
but he's four months that's the time that's the four it's the regression maybe hang in there i know i know
it's it's it's it's it's i promise i promise i mean i made the mistake talk to me talk to someone
else so it's another one no don't talk to i can't give you what you need but i made the mistake
of asking on instagram about like how when sleep regressions started the four months started
because because i was thinking oh is it going to start soon but people misinterpreted what i was
and thought I was saying how long does it last for and I literally I read it and like I read about
five entry like entries into the prompt box and like just cried because I was like okay so
basically I'm never sleeping again this is just my life now no it's not so no it all Ollo slept
until 5am she does that now from what time from bedtime what time what time's bedtime 7 p.m
okay that makes me happy okay that makes she sleeps that's good since we stop breastfeeding
lull, for the most part, she will sleep to about four or five a.m.
Okay, that's, that is...
And you can do that.
I can do that.
It's coming.
And look, she's always been a truly appalling sleeper.
At least Tommy was good in the beginning, which means he knows what to do, which means it'll
probably come back a lot sooner.
She had to learn...
I hope so.
You know, she's been learning on the go the whole time.
He's got it in him.
I back him.
I back him.
The fucking dummy, honestly, it's like, it's like the best thing in my life and also the
worst thing in my life at night time because he'll only go to sleep with it only go to sleep with
it but when he's when he spits that out and he started rolling so he can't we can't swaddle him
anymore so hands are out arms are out and he like he's playing with his arms and flicks a dummy out
and the moment that dummy comes out he's like oh wow wow wow wow it's always just as I
drift off anyway they say if you don't use the dummy you are the dummy you are the dummy you are the
dummy yeah I've been the dummy I'm still the fucking dummy and I don't even breastfeed anymore we didn't
get her a comforter that wasn't me I am still that and I'm like I'm trying to replace myself with her
little blue elephant I'm like ah look how much softer it is than me look how much more accessible it is
than me look I'm all the way upstairs why don't you just hang out with Ellie she's got you she's got
she's not the same it's not the same it's not the same holidays are tiring with a baby yeah yeah
Yeah. It doesn't feel very hot.
No. No. No. It does get easier. That gets easier.
Yeah. Okay. That's good.
Actually, everything gets easier.
That's good to hear. I promise. Every single, every single thing. Can't think of a single thing that's got harder.
Okay, that's good.
Yeah. It's all better. Everything's better. It's all better.
And he's doing some fun stuff like the regression has come with like him being awake more in the daytime and like being more awake in himself and like develop.
and like that's really cool you know he's like he's rolling and he's like you know laughing at me
and stuff so that makes up for it kind of does it i don't know definitely at me even everybody else
okay well enough not me and we're also proud of you well done you did the london marathon
after having a baby and in record time so cool and you raise a lot of money for a really cool
again reminder that the link will be in the show notes
we'll love you very much
yeah thanks for everyone
no like Al thank you so much
and like everyone that sent a video
and like sent me a message and like
I just I honestly
I feel so lucky
I just feel so lucky
I literally feel like the luckiest person in the world
there were also a lot of people who wanted to submit a video
but said they didn't like feel comfortable on camera
or yeah get that
there was loads of people that were like
please like pass on like my my you know my cheer to her so i felt that i really felt that
like i've never i've genuinely i've never felt love like it and my whole and i don't know if
i ever will again i really don't it was just i've never i've never felt community and love
like it i just it was just like oh i'll go i'll go again let me leave me to weep i'm a mess
well we love you very much well done i love you guys
thank you and we'll be back on Monday with a new interview back next week talking less about
me on Thursday probs unless I do something, unless I do something really raucous this weekend
and the potential is there because where are we going on Sunday now?
It's a magic mic.
Good magic mic.
So yeah, next Thursday's episode will be all about that.
How did you pull that muscle?
I'm so scared.
It's going to be a hoot.
It's got to be a hoot.
I'm just going to be cute. I can't wait. Right, guys, we will see you on Monday. Thank you so much. We love you.
Love you guys. See later. Bye.
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