Should I Delete That? - Em’s back! A catch up about life with Xanthe

Episode Date: March 10, 2025

She’s BACK! And we have a very special guest in the studio… Join Em and Al for a big old catch up after Em has been on maternity leave. We find out about all about Xanthe’s arrival int...o the world - she’s a total ray of sunshine! We also find out how Em’s feeling now she’s no longer unwell… And take a deep breath - because we have a little format update for you - we PROMISE this is the last time we’re moving things around and we promise you’re going to love it. Do you have an Is It Just Me for us? Is there someone you really want us to interview? Do you have an idea for Em's 30,000 exercise challenge? Email us on shouldideletethatpod@gmail.com!Follow us on Instagram:@shouldideletethat@em_clarkson@alexlight_ldnShould I Delete That is produced by Faye LawrenceStudio Manager: Dex RoyVideo Editor: Celia GomezSocial Media Manager: Emma-Kirsty FraserMusic: Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello. Hello. Oh, I had a frog on my throat. You had an awkward little frog. I'm at the practice. Can we do it again? Hello. Hello. I hate myself. I have the cutest little view. Don't be a pervert, Al.
Starting point is 00:00:23 Little, God stop it. I've got little Zanthi. I know. She's so cute. I'm back. You're back. You've had a whole other baby. There's a muffin on the table and I'm not even like ganged at the sight of it.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Before we started recording, we were saying that for Fay and Dex, this is the first time they've ever met you, not pregnant, not ill. Which is basically the first time they've ever met me. We're waiting for a review. No, I think I'm allowed six months. No, three months. Like how long does it take to get to know a person? A lifetime, really. Okay, we can do deep.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Let's just go three weeks, three weeks. weeks there's plenty um oh god it's it's fun yeah god how how quickly is that gone and the body image image series is done i know i know that i mean that's crazy that that flew it flew so much work i know so much work oh my god biggest thing we've ever done but i think the best thing we've ever done and yeah it's it's gone and you're back i know and guys we've got one more fuck up to the format but we promise after this we are done okay look we're sorry we are yeah we're playing we're playing around again no we're not playing we're serious this time okay okay okay this is business now we are for the final time adjusting thank you our format on our schedule so not schedule Monday and Thursday
Starting point is 00:01:49 no schedule changes I do apologize but I think what you shouldn't do for a job and that would be train announcement there's a bus replacement well no it's It's not a replacement. Well, it is a bus. Or is that a coat? No, so what you need to do? Platform 16, minus four. It would be a horrible station. Chaos. Okay, so, Mondays. We are still interviewing a guest on a Monday. But we're going to go straight into the episode, no GBA.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Good bad or awkward. Instead, the GBA is going to come on Thursdays. As part of. As part of the Is It Just Me? This means people who have. hate our chit-chat, don't have to listen to it. And people who love it can. And they can get a whole episode of it. Yeah. And yeah, so think of it as like Monday's guest, Thursdays, just us. We'll do a bit of visit just me. We'll do a bit of GBA. We'll do a bit of newsy stuff. We'll do a little bit
Starting point is 00:02:46 of everything. This also then gives us license in the future to explore more series because we enjoyed this so much. Yeah. And I think we need to be quite realistic. We've now got three children between the two of us. We love our jobs, but it's hard. We're doing our job. I've got a very new baby. And we need to, I think we've learned over the last couple of years to like manage our expectations, implement some boundaries.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Yep. And just be realistic about what we can do because I think we both tried to do it all for the last couple of years. And it's really hard. It's just not possible really, is it? We just want to make the best show that we're really proud of. Yeah. Whilst not burning ourselves out.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Yeah. And this feels feasible, feels fun. And the series actually gives us a bit of a break if we can work on them very hard. Yeah. At the beginning, it does then give us an opportunity to go on a holiday or whatever, which we never really do because we've never broken the pod before.
Starting point is 00:03:45 So we've really loved experimenting with this. And thank you for your perception. And we've got so many ideas for series. Oh, my God, we do. No spoiler alert. Actually, spoiler alert, we do want to do series of Tradwives. I'm desperate to do a series of. I said it to you
Starting point is 00:03:59 Like when Zapti was like 10 days old I'm going to start working on it You were like for God sake Don't maybe not Give it a minute Give it like a mum We've got time Can I just offload this baby
Starting point is 00:04:10 Baby, do you take Thank you Let's bring your husband Bring your whole family to work day Bar the toddler Baby's going to Alex Oh she's so cute Why
Starting point is 00:04:19 She might just come back again Okay Boring stuff Housekeeping aside Yes How are you? Oh yeah no I'm great Can we talk about
Starting point is 00:04:27 you're not ill anymore. I'm, yeah, it's so weird. It's so weird. You had a C-section. Yep. I had a plan of C-section. What a hoot. Go on.
Starting point is 00:04:38 God, it's amazing. It's great, isn't it? If you loved it, and I was like, I don't know what all this is about. Like, how good can it be? Like, how much better than an emergency can it be? You know, Cesarian is a Cisarian, you know what I mean? No. It was great.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Playlist. Did you have a playlist? Had a playlist. Yep. To be honest, I'm so far away. from it now that I probably can tell you without crying, but, like, it was an incredibly emotional day. I think, like, yeah, me and Alex, I think, I don't think I had really,
Starting point is 00:05:07 I mean, I was obviously aware of the toll that HG had taken on me, but I don't think I was necessarily, like, totally conscious of how much it had taken, put on Alex, and it's awkward because he's behind me, but, like, we both cried, and it was, like, there was just this huge sense of relief that was, like, came with that day. I can't even imagine. It was mad. And I actually, yeah, it was a lot. I mean, oh my God, the week, so she was born on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:05:33 On Friday, I was an A&E with Arlo who had an ear infection and a perforated ear drum. Oh, my God. Like, yeah, like blood coming out of her ear. I mean, she was so ill. Well, obviously, obviously that had to happen just as the baby was being born. But it was so good because it was like such a big distraction in a way. And she got all her illness out the way. So she was better for the baby, better for Christmas.
Starting point is 00:05:53 It was fine. but yes i went in on sunday morning god it was nuts like they just they're like come on in it was like half an hour i was the first one of the day because of the sickness and because oh that's so great i know the longer you wait like the perverse thing with hg is the hungry you get the sicker you are and it's horrible so you always but you can't eat before a C-section obviously okay thank god you were first in yes i had my first one in and i wasn't bumped or anything so she was born at like 10 to 9 in the morning what was she born to so what's on oh she was born to um well to be honest so she was but we i made this playlist um and because i knew she was
Starting point is 00:06:30 going to be my sunshine and she'd be my happy ending um so i made a playlist called sunshine songs she was born to a song for you by donnie half away you like that's the beginning of it like how beautiful is that but actually i wasn't really cognizant of that because i was so super loopy and they gave me every single anti-emetic available so i was and my blood pressure was like terrible. So I was a bit like, woo. But the first time I had any consciousness, really, was when they put her on me and make you feel my love was playing,
Starting point is 00:07:03 you know, the Adele version. And it was like, I would go black and blue for you. Like, there's nothing I wouldn't do for you. And it was like, oh, I've got to cry. But it was, it was just, it was so emotional because it's like, I've just been through so much and like, here you are. And like, obviously you're all worth it.
Starting point is 00:07:17 And I hate you feel this love. And it was, like, oh my God, me and Alex are both just Iraq. Like, like, so emotional, even more emotional than Arlo's birth, I think. It was just so emotional. Her significance is just, it's just so much bigger because of everything you went through. A hundred percent. Yeah, that's exactly it. The significance of her birth is just, it's huge.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Yeah, it was the pregnancy ending, and it literally felt like I was like coming back to life. Yeah. Yeah, it was a lot. It was amazing. It was just, honestly, the happiest, because she's born on 22nd. It was like the happiest three days of my life. It was just extraordinary. And they let me go home the next day.
Starting point is 00:07:52 fucking plants as areas man it was amazing like i had the baby first thing in the morning everyone came over for pizza in the afternoon then to be honest we just i thought we'd want to be in like a little bubble in the hospital but obviously i was looking at something i was like only half my heart is here because all it was ahead it's like i've got to get we need to put the unit together and they let me go first thing on that's the thing i was gutted when they told me i could go home i was like no no i want to stay i was like just one more night please how long did you stay for two nights because of the They had to keep monitoring the bulk of pressure. So it was two nights, but I was fine physically, but I had to say two nights.
Starting point is 00:08:28 But then I was just like, oh, just one more. I think after the second child, because you want to get back to the first one. Of course, of course. Maybe. I don't know. I was so, because I, weirdly, I was in the room that I had an infusion in. So it was like, it was quite a weird thing as I was in there. I was like, I just, I want to go home.
Starting point is 00:08:48 Like, I'm just done with being pregnant and all associated. variables like I just want to go home was it such a strange feeling like I just I can't imagine it now having one was it such a strange feeling having this because you get that rush of hormones and like this little thing and like you're so fiercely protected and so fiercely in love but was it so strange having that but then also missing arlo and yeah I mean I imagine having the two of those things happening at once in the midst of it when they when they put her on you put her on me it was like I think, like you say, because of the significance,
Starting point is 00:09:24 it was this huge rush. But I also had this, like, I'll take it to therapy one day. But I don't think I thought I was pregnant. Like, I knew I was pregnant. Obviously, I knew I was pregnant. I could feel her moving. But I still, not so much now, but for the first few weeks,
Starting point is 00:09:40 I would look down at her and be like, whoa. Like, it felt particularly at the end, like more of a sickness than a pregnancy, which is such a weird thing. No, that makes sense. You didn't have the capacity. to yeah it was like the sickness was the bigger thing yeah than the baby in that like that was all anyone talked to me about you know most pregnant women get like oh and have you got a name and like
Starting point is 00:10:02 is she moving and you know those are the conversations I didn't have those it was like oh you look gray like have you haven't talked you've been sick today yeah like that was if I went to the doctor it was never about the baby it was always about me yeah um so that was a bit surreal um but I had I did have this massive rush of just feeling when they put her on me. And I remember the night she was born, we were just staring at her. And I was like, this is amazing, but I need to be at home. I need, we need, because Aalho was, you know, met her during the day, but she can't stay the night. I said, we need to take, we need to go home. We need to, we need the unit together. And it just felt, I mean, oh my God, but when
Starting point is 00:10:37 we got home, fucking hell. Arlo was a giant. I was like, I left with a baby and I came home to a grown woman. And it was the weirdest thing. And we both got really emotional about that because it was like, I bet. A baby's all a baby. She's all grown up. Yeah, that was because next to Zanthi she's a giant. So it was like, I left what was a baby and I came back to, she was gone and this whole other person was there. We both
Starting point is 00:11:02 had a very emotional evening. I'm not surprised. Boxing day or something. But we got over that. And yeah, it's been, it's wild. It's absolutely wild. It's probably I imagine a rite of passage when you have the second one. I think so. It's just being so
Starting point is 00:11:19 confused. Oh, I just I just can't imagine it. I just can't imagine it. Also, yeah, so cute, the little noises. I want to keep them in. It's so nice having a baby back in the studio because Arlo followed us around for ages. I don't think Tommy ever came to the studio.
Starting point is 00:11:33 No, breastfeeding, no. Yeah, breastfeeding. Yeah. We are one. Although she's taking a bottle so far. Is she? Yeah. Let's see if it sticks.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Good girl. I know. It's a bit of, kind of a necessity when there's two of them. It's a lot, but it's great. It's so great. And Ollo's been such a good girl She has she's upset for it I don't want to actually I don't want anyone watching this
Starting point is 00:11:56 Because I don't want watching listening Being like I don't want to give like an An inaccurate portrayal of the newborn bit As if like oh everything's perfect On balance for me everything is so much better than being sick That I am overwhelmingly very very happy But I am aware when people are watching
Starting point is 00:12:14 That I don't want to be like I'm great at having newborns Having a newborn for me is really easy because it's not, it's absolutely savage, obviously. It's just also amazing. Alice has been great. She has had separation anxiety. She has.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Which has been a lot. Let me take the baby. And I guess normal. We hope. Do you know how many times a day are we going all that? Is it normal for your toddler to enter every available sentence? Hello. You're all right.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Yeah, it's a lot. Get a chat GPT on it. No, no, no. That's exactly what you don't want. Oh, okay. It's way too smart. Okay, okay, okay. I think anecdotally, I want, like, a comment from my mum being like, oh.
Starting point is 00:12:53 I think it's really normal. I think it's really normal. I've told you before. You put Jen in a washing machine. No, but I've told you before that Own It Beb on Instagram, she's got two girls. And when she had her second girl, her first girl, really took it really badly. And took it, like, lashed out against her mom quite a lot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Only wanted daddy and, like, was really frustrated. Yeah. Well, they have big feelings. I think it's not, and I've heard that it's more difficult with girls. Oh, really? Yeah. I'm not sure, I'm not sure why, I don't know, but they, I think they take it personally. Personally, I mean, me, I took it so badly.
Starting point is 00:13:28 I know. I took it so badly. I use you as my point of reference every time. I'm like, well, at least somebody's on the washing machine. At least like, oh, I was not like sitting on her face in an attempt to smother her. No, no, no. Because that was not good. She does treat her like a wrestling partner from time to time.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Not the proudest moment in my life. Part of thing why. Well, yeah, she, I guess, doesn't understand like. She loves that. Vagile. No, no, no, she loves that. That's not the problem. She adores her.
Starting point is 00:13:58 She's just very, very crossed with having to share me. She's absolutely fair enough. It's understandable. Totally reasonable. It's just basically everyone says you need to be calm. Mother, be calm. Oh, really? Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:12 That's hard. Yeah, because you have to regulate the baby by being regulated. Okay. But you mean to tell me I must be regulated all the time? No, I've never. I've never been regulated a day in my life. That's really hard, isn't it? Because don't they say, I remember, I remember, like, Jen going through all of this with
Starting point is 00:14:27 Louis, and they, they, they, they, I don't know who they are, but they say, they say that you should prioritise the toddler because they're the ones who will remember, but also the baby needs milk, the baby needs feeding, and that's kind of a big priority as well. So that's quite hard to split yourself in two like that. And I'm incredibly impressed with all those, like, tenacity when it comes to, like, keeping you away. Well, yes, because that kind of sounds like quite a good piece of advice. And initially at the beginning, easy. I'd be like, oh, Sam, just give us two seconds, I'll just having a pudding. Now, like, how, like, pudding's like 17 courses. Because I want my watermelon cut into like,
Starting point is 00:15:03 literally she says tiny bits. Like, this is a smart woman. She is clever. She knows exactly. She knows what she wants. And I respect it. But I think also because of the boundaries that are saying, like, that we're putting in with work and stuff and because like everything's just so good this time, Work-wise. I feel we've got a great team. We've got a great team. Like, you've been so amazing and so kind to me. And I think that's giving me the space to be like,
Starting point is 00:15:28 no, I just need to dedicate this time to really making sure my kids are okay. Of course you do. And then, because otherwise, when you feel like you're really splitting yourself in all those directions, that's when it's killer. For sure. We've talked about this a lot. And it's like we, you know, I mean, it's a, you know, I mean, we worked our asses off before you gave birth
Starting point is 00:15:48 to make sure that we had lots of pre-recorded stuff but I know I've said to you even if we have to take a break I know that everyone listening to this will understand we don't have plans to at the moment but if we need to
Starting point is 00:15:59 like it's an option and we'll work it out and the priority is that you get through this period with your mental health and your intact but the children let's think of the children
Starting point is 00:16:11 and the you know well yeah it's gonna make it work it is okay and we'll make it work Yeah, of course we will. And actually, it's going to be fine. And we've, so we've basically, we've got today's episode like, hello. And then we've got like four or five pre-recorded interviews that we did before we left. We do for you to hear. Yeah. I think Thursdays will probably be as normal. That's TBC. We think so, yeah, with the addition of the GBA. Yep. And then we'll be back. We're going to play the Thursdays by ear as well. I don't want to commit us to commit you. Well, yeah, commit us to that just yet. We're going to see how it works. There we go. Yeah. Yeah. And then. And, And then thank you. Listeners, Emma is like intent.
Starting point is 00:16:49 She's been hellbent. And especially with Arlo as well on like, we can't miss an episode. Like I'm going to come back straight away and this and that. And I am determined this time to not let that happen. Because I know that everyone listening as well will be like, go away. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Take a break. I feel proud of that, though.
Starting point is 00:17:07 That I feel like I've really learned that. Yeah, you're setting boundaries now and that's really cool. What the hell? Yeah. I know. I never would have said this before. I never ever would have said I can't do something. that it's too much. Good. Good on you.
Starting point is 00:17:18 But I really recognise this time. I'm like, no, this is what has to happen. I've grown as a... Probably a lot of because of the podcast stuff as well, the people that we've spoken to and how many times we've spoken to Jacqueline's probably helped. All that therapy we've had. Yeah. All that live therapy. Yeah, actually, you know what? Jack sent me a text and she said, I want to come back on the podcast, we need to talk about this specific thing.
Starting point is 00:17:40 And I was like, amazing. And then I said, I'm actually taking March off, so we wouldn't be able to do it until April. and she's like, I am so proud of you. It's like, thank you. Thank you so much. Yeah, do you know what to do with myself. I'm loving it. Also, if you need to stay Gabriel, you need to stay April.
Starting point is 00:17:53 We'll make it work. I'll be fine. I mean, we came in today with the, with the baby. With the baby. God, I forgot how inaccessible London is. It's incredibly inaccessible, isn't it? Oh my God, I went to, my friend had her daughter's first birthday party in Peckham levels on Saturday. I saw one by my friends, you were in Peckham.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Did you? Yeah, that's so funny. I was thinking from where my friend are parked and then I was like, what's our doing in Peckham on a weekend. Crazy, I know, wild. Peckham Rye Station has about 70 stairs and no lift. And they're all metal on me, but are they outside? I don't know, I was too stressed to like take that into account, but I had, do you know what, the, I find that, like, younger men are so much more helpful than older men.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Do you? I do, yeah. Yeah, it's like the younger, like. It's a new dad's. Or do you mean young young, young? No, I mean young young. they're very thoughtful aren't they're so thoughtful they have lots of feelings they they asked if I wanted help before I even knew that I needed help it was so sweet they could sense
Starting point is 00:18:52 it they could probably could be like I mean maybe the tears gave it away this steam coming out of your ears maybe the maybe the frantic humming or the like the little screams I don't know but they just asked me and it was really sweet it just really sweet it was big of all my energy but one sorry derailing our conversation but like one he took us up the stairs and he held the bottom and like Tommy was like just like leaning down so far over him and he just looked at me this guy and was like oh thank God for those straps hey Tommy was like in his face I was like oh god I'm sorry poor Tommy was like new dada I think you need a travel buggy those I do I mean like we've got the same
Starting point is 00:19:38 buggy the eye candy it's amazing but by God When you're on your own, impossible to navigate around London. Impossible. It's actually physically impossible. Travel buggies are the answer. You need to know that in a crisis, you can carry it by yourself upstairs. How do disabled people get around London? Well, this pisses me off a huge amount, right?
Starting point is 00:19:56 So I was late today because I came into Waterloo Station and I needed to get the lift down that brings you down to the Waterloo East entrance, so we can get here in time with the bunny lift is out of action. And I wouldn't mind it being out of action because things break if there were somebody there fixing it. But it's like the station is just accepted that today they're in. no lift and it's like it's not good enough it's not acceptable because if you were if you're in the buggy fine someone can carry you down if you're in a wheelchair that is you can't be humanising you're not being carried down the stage you didn't it's a horrible situation to be in right and waterloo station i think is the busy that's the fat check probably needed
Starting point is 00:20:29 captain's the busiest station i know you about to say in europe yes really yes oh i thought's Waterloo. No, I believe the staff. Okay. Well, one of the busiest stations in Europe. Yeah. And for it to not have a lift. It makes me ashamed.
Starting point is 00:20:43 It's shameful. Yeah, I genuinely, it's like that in the homelessness. And you'll find both at Waterloo Station. It's like, oh, come on. Yeah. It's not good enough. Oh. How do you should know that?
Starting point is 00:20:56 It's Paris. Oh, my, I am ashamed of myself. In Paris? My hometown. I should have known. Your people. Okay. I thought Clapton Junction
Starting point is 00:21:05 I think I'm PR things What station in Paris? Cardinorne. Godinor. What else is it going to be? I've never heard of another Parisian station. It's only one. There are many,
Starting point is 00:21:15 if you don't need to go and open your eyes. There are many. There are many stations in Paris. How have you been? Good. Yeah. Good? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Oh, sorry, I wasn't expecting that. I don't know. Good. And what's been happening? Tommy turned one. Tommy turned one. That was emotional. And we've got childcare.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Oh my God, yeah. You've got proper childcare now. How's that feeling? I like how long we both left it. Yeah, I'm conflicted, obviously, because I'm an emotionally unstable person. So I take each day as it comes. No, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:21:58 I think we both have a little bit of separation anxiety, which is getting better. definitely getting better. How does it manifest in the adult? Like I recognise it in their children. Well, leaving him is quite hard, it's quite painful. So every day, so that part is a struggle. But I find like once...
Starting point is 00:22:18 People are going to say every day is a struggle. Every day is a struggle. No, that, I mean, that also tracks. But yeah, it's another podcast. But no, leaving him is a bit of a struggle. But I find like once I've done it and what, you know, He cries every time. Do you cry every time?
Starting point is 00:22:35 No, I know. That's good, thank God. I did it first. Yeah. Yeah, I did it first. It was very embarrassing. I mean, the first time I left him, I was just like, so choked that I, like, couldn't breathe. And Dave was like, oh, God.
Starting point is 00:22:48 It's not funny, sorry. He did his settling in sessions at nursery, and Dave came with me. And when I tell you, I didn't stop sobbing the entire time, like, proper, proper sobbing. And so much so that I couldn't concentrate on what this poor nursery, the nursery, the nursery staff were saying to me at all, like I was just not with it. And this, this would have been my awkward had we been doing good, bad and awkward. But they said, she said, I mean, this was December. This was, yeah, it was December. And she said, oh, can you put an all in one in his bag? And I was like, because I wasn't with it, I was like, I was thinking, you went to
Starting point is 00:23:24 Mauritius, he had like a, he had like, like, Mickey Mouse all in, like, wetsuit. So I was like, I was like, yeah, yeah. I was like, Dave, we've got the Mickey Mouse one, haven't we? And He was just like, they mean like, an all-in-one. Like a baby grown. Like a baby, no, like a suit to take him out in the garden. Like a pram suit. Fine. Not a wetsuit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:44 And the girls were like, oh, bless you, no, he doesn't need a wetsuit in nursery. And I was like, oh, okay, I won't pack that thing. It was bad. He's enjoying it though now. And on the way out of the, of, actually, this was my first time dropping him off. I had to stay it by myself. Dave wasn't there. and it was really bad like I was I was crying so much that I just like I was it was horrendous and on the way I'm going down the stairs and I went around the corner and had a little tap on my shoulder and a girl was like she was like I listen to the podcast so hi Caitlin um she was like I listen to the podcast and she saw my face and she was like oh god I'm so sorry I just couldn't I couldn't speak to her and I felt really bad so she was like you want to
Starting point is 00:24:31 hug. I was like, yeah. So I basically like sobbed in this poor girl's arms and she was like, I know it's really hard at first, it will get better. So I haven't seen her since, but thank you, Caitlin, because that was really, really sweet. And I needed a hug. And I needed someone to tell me that it's going to get better. So that was really kind. But he is enjoying it, isn't he? Yeah. Yeah. Once he gets over the initial, yeah, like mom's gone. Yeah. He has a great time. And I actually waited one one minute once and I dropped him off. I waited a minute. And literally as soon as I'm gone. He stopped crying and then he's like, play, play. I want to play. So I think it's just, I think it's for my benefit, which is lovely. Your benefit. Yeah. He's like, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:25:10 make your life as hard as possible. Watch this, you bitch, leaving me. And then he's like, oh, actually I'm fine. That's good that you stayed. Also, boardline. Super creepy. A little bit. A little bit. It's like a little window. I'm just like poking around. Can Tommy's mom, please leave the nursery? Get off the premises. Oh, well, that's nice. And now he's What else been going? Because so many things have been happening that I've been, I had a really bad awkward the other day
Starting point is 00:25:36 and I thought I need to tell you about this. Go on. I was, I'd say I was walking. I wasn't. I was marching. I'm in a constant battle with Google Maps at the moment. I don't like this. It gives me anxiety.
Starting point is 00:25:44 For the most part, I'm winning. It's feeling pretty good. But I was, and actually, I'd fucked it. We were going out for brunch and it was Sarah's birthday, and I needed to get Sarah present because, you know, I'm not, I still got Tommy's first birthday on my kitchen counter. I'm not doing great on that front. but allow it two kids and anyway I went to go get Sarah's present and I was rushing to brunch
Starting point is 00:26:06 and I was like hmm a shortcut now Alex had taken Arlo on her bike so they'd gone by themselves and I had Zampe in the carry I had my air pods in because she was asleep and I saw a shortcut across the grass right I set off with my little deep tea candle in the bag across the grass and like way too late I realised I was like this is the slipperiest fucking thing I've ever walked on in my life so when I was trying to do like march march march march march march march march it was like what and I mean, it was a full, it was like two rugby fields. Like I had a long road ahead of me and I was committed to it, right? And I had my Google Maps on because I was trying to beat my Google Maps.
Starting point is 00:26:39 And you know when the Google Maps reads out to you, it goes like, like turn right, like turn right onto this road, whatever, and it says it all the time. And I was getting more and more frantic because I was going hot. I was getting slipped and I couldn't see my feet because they were in the carri and I was going, stop it. And I get saved to my air pods. Stop it. No, stop it.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Stop it. and it was only when I got to the end of the field I looked round and there was a man probably like four or five feet behind me he must have literally been like what the fuck I'm walking on stop it
Starting point is 00:27:11 no stop it just to no one all day it was so embarrassing I was like oh my God you also can't do that I was like
Starting point is 00:27:25 ah I got back on the path And I was like, go, go, go. And then I ran. Oh, it was awful. It was so embarrassing. Stop it. Stop.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Stop it. Oh, baby. You take a baby twin. Literally like jiggling her away. Oh, it was really bad. Stop it. Bye. I got new airphones.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Airphones. Airphones. Headphones. Oh, AirPods. I got new AirPods because I had to because I left one of mine in a hotel. in a hotel bed which is so annoying because obviously I sleep with them in which is sinister in and of itself
Starting point is 00:28:02 but all you're doing in a hotel bed Are you having an affair? My sister's wedding Yes More news from me for my sister's wedding I sleep because I listen to a podcast as I go to sleep
Starting point is 00:28:13 because I can't be alone with my own thoughts okay Silence doesn't exist in my in my world and I left one in the bed anyway got new AirPods but it reads out all the notifications to me
Starting point is 00:28:26 They read it out. Yes. Is that what you mean? That's why I'm saying stop it, stop it. It drives me. It's all they do. And then read it. It goes, read it.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Like, text from Alex Light, read it. Although every time I get a text from you, it goes, text on Alex Light, then I cannot read. And then they tell me about it. It's probably, oh my God. Yeah, it literally will just be OMG. It did make me laugh, though, because it read out one and it was from my sister and it was ah, like as in a, W and then loads of Ws. Aw.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Yeah, like, aw. But it read it out. It's like text from Sophie Light. Oh, oh, oh. Like this and I was like, oh, my God. I was going to sleep and I was like, oh, this is horrible. I need to get this out on my ear. It's horrible.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Oh, yeah, no, you don't want Matt if you're sleeping with them. You put it up to down. It reads everything out. Oh, yeah, I could do that actually. Yeah. No, it's a lot. It's really annoying. Yes, it is a lot.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Yeah, and it makes me look insane. Question, why are iPod so expensive? I can't answer that. They're outrageously expensive. Yes. And I don't see why. Because there's, I mean, right, I can't believe I have to answer this. There's so much like engineering.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Right, okay, let's put it another way. How, how do you think you'd make an airport? Like, do you think in your lifetime you would ever be able to build an airport? This is, this question is redundant. There are many, there are many things that I couldn't build. And I think within that, it's important that we recognize that we need to pay for the things. I've never built anything. Well, that's why we have to pay for things.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Agreed. But, and I think other headphones aren't just good. On the market. Or, yeah. Well, maybe they were made by people like you. They're like the tin cans that you have when you were kids on a string in the middle. I'd like to know. I'd like a pitch from Apple, you know.
Starting point is 00:30:15 No, no, no. You see, like tell me why I'm so expensive. There are certain things in life. I'll accept it. Well, that's it. I just want to know. I feel like I could. Think about how, okay, right, okay, let's get into it.
Starting point is 00:30:25 How many little wires there are? Like, imagine how small the wires must be. It Bluetooth connects to your phone. Super clever. It's charged by the case, but you haven't plugged into anything. Okay, but hear me out. Yeah. I went, I was.
Starting point is 00:30:38 I was, in town without AirPods. And that's scary to me. Like I said, don't like silence. And there was a pound land. I went into the pound land and bought some AirPods. No, no. Pods. Head pods.
Starting point is 00:30:53 I don't know, whatever. They also had Bluetooth tooth. They also connected. They also were digital. They would call them wireless. And they cost nine pound. I don't understand pound, man. They're not as comfy.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Agreed. I couldn't wear them to bed. Not as comfy. No, they won't be. Probably the battery life isn't as good. Probably. The case doesn't look as good. No.
Starting point is 00:31:16 But what was the sound quality like? I mean, it didn't have noise cancellation. All right, fine. Okay. I'm answering my own question. You are, but I need to just go back to the Poundland point. Why have things nine pounds in Poundland? I've never understood this.
Starting point is 00:31:28 I don't like it. Inflation. Well, I understand the book, call it nine pound land. Like, you can't just have pound land. It's like the ultimate false advertising. It really upsets me. I mean, back in the day, though, poundline used to be Poundland. Tell me about it.
Starting point is 00:31:40 That's where I got my pro plus for a pound. It used to be 50 P-Land sometimes as well. Well, there was a 99P store. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, I love that. I loved going in that. It's such a thrill.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Oh, my God, yeah, because you could, yeah, I mean, great. like great but because it did what it said on the tin everything costs a pound land you can't get anything for a pound now you can get some things for a pound yeah you can't get much for for something that has a P in front no no you can't get much for pennies yeah yeah yeah yeah now that is inflation they go very far nowadays no god we sound old are all is there anything you'd like to tell us anything else you'd like to tell us from when you've been away oh god I mean I feel like everything and nothing do you know you missed the pod you don't have to lie no I've honestly I've really have you
Starting point is 00:32:22 yeah like it's really nice to be honest it's really nice being back on instagram because I am well so like I have the energy to like have fun again and like yeah yeah and I think I'm still struggling a little bit with like feeling like if I'm back on Instagram then everyone's going to think I'm back back back and it's like if I do an ad here do I need to be back online but it's like also we can be honest about it like we don't get maternity leave yeah we need like I need to earn money and it's like I struggle with the kind of like all or nothing thing yeah and it's well if I'm posting ads
Starting point is 00:32:52 and I need to be making organic content because otherwise people aren't going to want that and then it's like if I'm making organic and that kind of constant thing doesn't go away
Starting point is 00:33:00 little hamster wheel it is yeah and there's an element of that that is quite overwhelming but generally I'm just so happy to be back and also like I've done this thing with ITV about HG
Starting point is 00:33:10 yeah that's exciting really proud of when can we I'll mention it on Instagram because I'm not sure but I also have had this idea tell me if you think I can't do it because I know what you're going to say
Starting point is 00:33:21 Is it an exercise challenge? Yes. Oh, fuck. I know. Well, I've basically, and I'm welcome to suggestions, but I've been thinking for a long time while I was pregnant and I want to do something to raise awareness for HG and to raise money for pregnancy sickness support. Good intentions, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Exactly. So be careful what you say next. Yeah. Now, I didn't realize this, but 30,000 women in the UK suffer with it, right? Which is a lot. Every year. That is a lot. So I'm thinking like, I've got to do something with the 30,000, right?
Starting point is 00:33:46 So I was thinking, I was like, first of all, 30,000 miles in a year. Mistake. That's 85 miles a day. I do not have that kind of time So then I thought more And now I'm thinking I could do 30,000 steps a day For 30 days
Starting point is 00:34:03 That's about 15 miles a day No I think it's quite just do one day I don't do just do one day No because I'll do that sometimes by accident You'll do 30,000 You'll do how many miles? 15?
Starting point is 00:34:15 15 That's more than half a marathon No I know But like on a nice day I might do that So I can't ask people for sponsorship for something that I would genuinely find quite enjoyable or an accident. So like it needs to be a challenge. Yes, you can.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Yes, you can. No, I think I should be. People will support, no. I think it should be. I do, I do contest this idea that like people should only support you if you're doing something that like stretches you, like, stretches you. But like, can't I just sponsor you like 30,000 steps in a day? Go you.
Starting point is 00:34:50 I'm going to sponsor you for that. I don't need you to kill yourself over 30 days. I love you, but I wasn't going to do 30 consecutively. I was going to do 30, like, with an allowance for like 10 days. Like, because I need to be realistic. I've got two kids. You know what I mean? So, like, I want to be able to be like, I just didn't happen today, but I'll see you again tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Do you know what I mean? I think it's quite a good idea. It's also plausible because I can do it with a baby character. I can do it with Anthony on me. I can do it with Arlo somewhere, you know, should be exhausted, but she'll be there. It sounds like something you want to do. So I'm going to support you and say, I want to do it because I can't think of anything else to do.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Do you know what I mean? Like, it's as good as I've got right now. So if anyone can think of anything with a 30,000, I'm welcome to suggestions. Otherwise, that's where we're landing and that will be coming. Yeah, exactly. We'll just think about it. Just think about it in your free time.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Oh, I tell you what you did when you were away, when I was away, when we were away. You went boxing. You went back to exercise. I did. And you hated it. It was bleak. It was bleak.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Oh, my God. Do you want to go any further? I actually haven't been back. Have you not? But it is more of a time constraint, is more of a time thing really because we're renovating the house and Dave is completely absent doing that.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Like, we haven't seen him for ages. Oh, God, Dave's on Instagram now. And he's incredibly stressed and he's on Instagram and like, yeah, loving his new Insta life. So I haven't been back. It has been a hoot, you know. Dave's Instagram, I've really enjoyed that.
Starting point is 00:36:12 I like, I've put notifications on for when he does a post or a story and my heart sinks. I have two, and also races every time. I have two things to say on this. Go on, please. The first one being, when I saw him at his 40th, he was like,
Starting point is 00:36:26 I'm really struggling actually to find the time to do it. It's actually really hard to do. Yeah. It's like, what do you fucking mean? It's actually really hard to do. I know. He's been married to you this whole time. I know.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Of course it's really hard to do. I know. That's why it's a big job that you work very hard at. He's got a newfound respect for what we do because he's like, it's not as easy as it looks, is it? And I'm like, no. No, Dave. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:36:50 And you should have known that before. Yes, yeah. You should have gathered that from the seven years we've been together. Yeah, I did think that. Yeah. Yeah. I took a step away when he said that at his birthday. I was like, okay, Dave.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Yeah, noted. Yeah, he's a easy career of mine. He's struggling to keep it up. Yeah, well. I'm just struggling to show up. That's my line. Yeah, he's heard me say that too many times. Get your own trope.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Oh, God, okay, but back to the boxing. Would you like to go to cycle with me? I would love to go to cycle Oh my God, that's not the answer I was expecting Let's go to cycle Let's go I'm allowed to do it in two weeks Okay, let's go
Starting point is 00:37:27 Two weeks, one week, two weeks, one week I need to check my calendar I love cycle I've got all my little milestones When I'm allowed to do stuff The boxing was hard because I didn't have any clothes that fit That's not good Nothing fits me anymore
Starting point is 00:37:36 Like no sports bras fit me Yeah no you need any clothes No leggings fit me That I've got So I was wearing like rusty old horrible shit What do you wear when you go home Like I only wear leggings Why do you only go home?
Starting point is 00:37:48 I wear like flared leggings, but I don't really wear like... Legging leggings. And also, all the boxing was done in front of the mirror. And given how, like, I was just wearing these horrible things. Like, my hair was all, like, tied back and gross. And I was just, like, looking at myself, doing these, like, struggling so hard to do all of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Not vibing. And I was like, this feels miserable. But I did... I booked an... Mummy and Muti. Yeah, I've booked one. I'm really proud of you. I've booked one.
Starting point is 00:38:18 the soonest availability was March but I've booked one because I there's something not quite right with my stomach muscles like I couldn't I physically couldn't do a sit-up like I couldn't even do the first part of the sit-up and I was like it's really weird like it felt like I said it on Instagram I felt like you know when you wake up and your hands numb and you're trying to clench your fist
Starting point is 00:38:37 and you can't because you can't feel it it felt like that it's not too late to fix that stuff well hopefully not no it's not that's why you've got to go and have one I'm really proud of you okay go and do that and then we'll go to cycle we'll go right to the back Yes. I really want to do it. The darkest, the cornerest, we'll go the furthest way because I'll be terrible also. I really want to do it.
Starting point is 00:38:55 It's going to be great. Yeah, we'll be getting our mojo back. I love that. Oh my God, I'm so excited. I'm literally chomping at the bit. I cannot weigh. I love it. Okay, great. This is good. We'll get you some leggings first. Yes, I do need some leggings. And a sports bra. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:06 What's the best sports bra? Oh my God. Svetty betty. Which one? Well, it depends what you want for running. Obviously, I got my, I got big boobs. The Zero Gravity Running Brides are very, very good. I need that. I need that.
Starting point is 00:39:18 I'll send you both. the links um they're really good i need the extra support one because they're big now yeah yeah the power one's good but like they've got a power running one very very good okay i'll send you some links maximum support yeah that's good that's like straps me down for the marathon and stuff perfect god yeah i'm breastfeeding again i know so they're massive again it's a fucking nightmare it's so oh so sweet though she was just she was breastfeed before i said this might be weird thing saying the voice but like i've never i don't know i've never heard like my sister didn't breastfeed and I've never, I've never seen someone breastfeeding around me before.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Yes, you have. I breastfed all over here. No, you, I know, but like, I don't know, it's all quiet. I just heard her, like, sucking away. That's all so, sounds so sweet. That's a really good feeder. She's like, she's like, she's like, she's going to get what I need. I don't know that starts weird for me to say, but.
Starting point is 00:40:01 No, people say it a lot. Like, I don't know. It's just cute. It's really cute. You know, it is really cute. And also, like, oh, it's such a weird thing. I mean, I think I said it before breastfeeding made me insane last time. Like, a genuine lunatic by the end.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Yeah, by the end you were done. So I think we need to monitor this quite closely. It's going well for now. Yeah. But the second I start showing signs, so let's just keep an eye on that. But it's good for now. Like, everything's quite good for now.
Starting point is 00:40:23 I'm a bit tired. Well, yes. Yeah. I didn't think about that bit. Yeah, that. It's easier, though, I was saying this, like, if anyone's listening, I'm freaking out about having a second kid.
Starting point is 00:40:34 When I had Aarlo, I had really bad bed dread in the afternoons. Oh, yeah. And I'd, like, you know it, like, that feeling where it starts going dark. It's like 4 p.m. And it's like, 4 p. Yeah, and you just feel like the day is closing in around and you're like, oh my God, I've got this whole darkness stretching ahead of me and you don't know what's coming
Starting point is 00:40:49 and it's probably going to be awful. And I really, really struggled with that with Alo and it was like the thing that got me every day. But with Zanth, because I've already got a kid whose routine is so set, I look forward because now after childcare, that's when I do like Aarlo's dinner and then Aal is bathroom and Aal's bedtime. So I look forward to it.
Starting point is 00:41:10 So where I used to like dread the day, winding down. It's like I get a whole new part of, like, I get to the fall with Anthony and it's like, that feeling would come. And then it's like, oh, but I've got Arlo home. So it's like, we're going to hang out. And then I've got that to do. And then there is an element of like coming down after Arlo's bedtime. And it's like, oh, whatever. But it's very different. It's a kind of tiredness that you feel a bit jacked up on. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Wired. But you get to the end of the day. You're like, whoa. Tired but wired. Yeah. Exactly that. Like I'm living there, whereas it felt a bit more
Starting point is 00:41:37 existential the first time. Okay. So. But you also know that it ends this time. It's so good. Like, all the hard stuff. That's the hard, that's the mentally challenging thing with, like, for me that was, it's just like, I don't seal an end to it. There's no light at the end of the tunnel. I feel like this is going to last forever. And you know that you can come out the other side, so that's good.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Yeah, it's amazing. And like, this hard bit will go, it'll be replaced by another hard bit, but a different hard bit. And variety is the spice of life. You know what I mean? It is. And I feel like that first bit is just really hard. Like, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:42:11 It's so nice to have you back. that was such a good I'm like yeah the first bit's really intense it's so nice to have it I scream that are you sorry oh it is so fun it is so nice
Starting point is 00:42:21 I've missed it so much and now we've got the studio like I feel like it's going to be so much easier yeah to just bring her in and like a walk here pop in
Starting point is 00:42:30 that would be about 30,000 steps oh my god that's a long way to walk that's gonna work well maybe it's not that long I have no idea you I genuinely suspect you have no idea
Starting point is 00:42:40 oh no literally no idea You could tell me it was six miles or you could tell me it was 70 and I would not know. What do you imagine, just for fun for me, what do you imagine is 70 miles away from here? Um, sorry? Okay. What do you imagine is five miles away? I've got no idea how far away. Sorry. I'd say it's probably about 70 miles. If I was like, oh, you're better at this and what I suspected. How far, wait, hang on. Where's Surrey, sorry. I mean, Surrey Hills National Landskings. A
Starting point is 00:43:15 Ow It's 22 miles away Okay Another one What do you think is five miles away from here Angel What was fun, I like this game Angel
Starting point is 00:43:31 Because we're south aren't we Yeah, angel It's two miles away It's two miles away What do you think is a thousand miles away America I've got no fucking idea. Which bit?
Starting point is 00:43:48 Middle or, um, Alaska. Why Alaska? My Google Maps does not recognize Alaska as a place. Oh, there's an Alaska. There's a restaurant called Alaska in Waterloo. Alaska in the USA. My Google Maps is it can't find a way there. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Try harder. No, it just can't find a way there. What is Alaska? from Waterloo Station. Alaska from Waterloo, London. 4,215 miles. You know what? We both have some work to do.
Starting point is 00:44:23 I'm going to give myself a 7 out of 10 for all of that. Because if you only had 1,000 miles in your petrol tank and you set off to Alaska, you would be very, very upset. Yeah, so you die. It would be awful. Yeah. Oh, God. Anyway, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:37 No, you'd be in the sea. Oh, I could fly. Al, not for a thousand miles. And then what are you going to do for the last 3000? No, I'd have to refuel. Yeah. You would, yeah. Four times.
Starting point is 00:44:50 At least. Okay. If you missed this, this high caliber, the series is over. The adlib's back. I was like, oh, for fuck's sake. Thanks for tuning in, guys. Thanks for being back. Thanks for having me.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Thanks for waiting. So excited to have me back. I'm so cool. This is the most appreciation. Apart from that time you told me I looked pretty last summer, this is like the sort of biggest energy I've had, like sort of loving energy I've had from you. It's very nice.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Have I mean to you? No. But you're just being very warm. Okay. It's nice. Well, I missed you. I'm glad you're back. This is the heart grow pond.
Starting point is 00:45:22 I'm sure everyone echoes that sentiment listening. Oh, thank you guys. Well, it's nice. Fun. And we're going to see you. See you. Give it back. Thursday.
Starting point is 00:45:30 With a new format and I'm so sorry and we're not going to touch it again. We're not even sorry. Possibly. It's what it has to be. No, no, no, no, we're proud of this one. Okay. This is our, this is it now. We love you.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Probably. No, no. Maybe. You're a nightmare. I just don't like the definitive that like that's you know we can't say for sure you know we can't say anything for sure but we can say things with good intention okay with good intention there we go we love you and we'll see you on Thursday right love you bye guys should I delete that as part of the ACAST creator network

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