Should I Delete That? - Is It Just Me: Am I too sensitive?

Episode Date: May 22, 2024

In this week's IIJM, Em and Alex chat tradwives, double-taps on Insta DMs and the death of cancel culture...Purchase tickets here for our first ever ✨LIVE TOUR!!✨Follow us on Instagram @shouldideletethatEmail us at [e-mail] by Daisy GrantMusic by Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Hello, welcome back to Should I Delete That. I'm Em Clarkson. I'm Alex Light. And I'm going to introduce her because she can't introduce herself because she's a dog. But in between us, in the studio, is Bua. Buwer! You know, sometimes what happens when, like, you have a much older kid and then you have a younger kid. Yeah.

And you just kind of end up with the older kid having to look after the younger kid. Yeah. That's what's happened with Bua. she's become a parent and I say this with all the love in the world because she's literally like my best mate but this morning I was like ready to come to the studio and I was ready to leave and then I just looked down at her

and I was like I can't leave you here I forgot about you you've got to come so strapped her lead on her and then like off we went she's doing such a good job already she's doing such a good job she's been helping produce she has

she weighs morale of everyone on the train we were though literally the most amount of chaos that's ever hit a preterm manche this morning. Honestly, I am, I can't tell you how hot I am, how hot I've been and how hot I still am. Look at me. Am I dripping less so now? But I am, I can't tell you how hot I have. I curled my hair. I don't, I don't want to hear about your hair. I curled my hair so beautifully this morning. Like, for me, it was so nice. Even Dave was like, your hair. And I was

like, I know. And I said to him, I think I can see shine on my hair for the first time in my life. And he's like, I can see shine too. So nice. I got on the train, went to Absolutely shit. Yeah. I've sweated my balls off. For context, you did bring your baby and your mother to work with you. I did. I did.

If anything is going to make you sweat at rush hour, it's your baby and your mom. Yeah, that's a good point. It was like hot as the devil on the train. Daisy asked us both to be early this morning, and I just think it was completely, I think she was setting us up for failure. We had to be here at 9.30, which I know doesn't sound early. But bear in mind, Al's got to come in with her baby and her mother. And my childcare doesn't start until 8.30.

So it was like all Thunderbirds go And I didn't want to take Boa on the tube Because it's hot Yeah So I took her on the train and then had to walk for more to do Did I walk? No I had to get a cab Because I was going to be silly

And I thought you'd be angry with me And then when we got here I was like oh my God And then I saw you outside And I was like I'm just going to pretend I've been here for ages I was panicked But I couldn't even get my phone out

Because I had the car The pram The trolley Feels like a bloody trolley Anyway, we're here You nailed it It was this poor guy at Pratt we were like a commotion like I had Bua like tearing my arm off jumping up at Alex's mom

we look like a jigsaw like you know one of this like chaotic scenes like Tommy in his buggy like quasson flying and this guy I was like vaguely aware of him trying to get out the door and we were like blocked him from one side and then he tried to go from the other side now like moved over there and then it was like he couldn't get out of that side it was like and then he came back around again it's like oh my god let the man free oh my god and I thought my I can't you're nails aren't they found Wow. Aren't they so cool? They are so cool.

For listeners who can't see them, they're ombray and multi-coloured tips. They're really cool. So it's like blue, green, yellow, orange, pink tips. Very cool. I know, jazzy. I wanted them for the tour that would go with everything, so I've actually gone for something that will go with nothing. I was going to say, they're not going to go with anything.

The most versatile. No, which is exactly why I did it. They're standout. They're show stoppers. That's all you care. We need to stop the show. No, no, actually. today's the day of the show

today is the fucking day of the show if you're listening to this first thing on Thursday morning and you live in London and you think I haven't got anything to do tonight I think there are still some tickets available so come bloody calm bloody calm last minute. We promise to put on a show we didn't say what kind of show

but we promised to put it on yeah why do people say show stopping it makes people go oh I see oh I see I get it okay all right I'll get my tits out I'll show stop stop. They probably literally will. It'll be illegal. They'll be like, okay, this is health and safety.

Put them away. What do you think would happen if I just, like, I just lost my mind at the show and just got my boobs out on stage? The thing is, I know what you're going to be wearing. So in order to get your boobs, like you'd have to get everything else out to. Would you stop the podcast with me? No. No. I think I would. It would be a lot, though. And I'd probably worry about you, but I'd suggest we, I think we should probably take a break. Do you know what I mean? Like, I think she could just do with a couple of weeks in an asylum if we could just... I have a question quickly before we move on to something a bit more serious. Not really that, but a little bit.

Do you feel offended when you write a message to someone on Instagram and they double tap you? It really depends on my two sensitive. What did you send and who was it? No, this is just, it keeps coming up time to time again. Like I keep replying to people's stories, you know, because I'm like trying to be on Instagram more and trying to be nice, you know, because I feel like I don't support people. people enough because I'm not very good on Instagram. So I'm like, I'm going to be nice and you know, and then I send like nice messages and people just like double tap them. I'm like,

oh. Yeah. It's gutting, but what do you want them to reply? Hey Al, thanks for the support. How are you? No, you've got a point. You've got a point. I think that's it. You've got to play it forward and work out what you need. Okay, so this is the thing. It's like, I always do that. It's so, yeah. Thanks for the support. How are you? Well, no, not like that. Not like that. Okay, let's hear it. But I will all, okay. I'm like, wow, wow, your hair looks nice. If you said that to me, I say, oh my God, thank you so much. Oh, my God. Oh, my God, thank you so much.

Hope you're well. Heart, kiss, kiss, kiss. You're a very thoughtful person. I would love to, that I would like. That's what I would like. But then what do they reply? Yeah, I'm really well. Then what? They're going to double tap you, presumably. At some point, you're getting double tapped. I know. I know. And that's fine.

I'm too sensitive. I need to stop being sensitive. I need some examples. Who have you sent what to? You don't have to give me names. But what kind of thing have we said? Okay. I mean, I always feel like this when someone double taps me.

This is a historical thing. But it was brought to my attention this morning because I messaged an influencer and was like, oh my God, the amount that you influence me is outrageous. I just love what you do. I know exactly who you sent me to. Yes, you do, don't you? And to double tap you. Double tap me.

I don't know. I'm definitely too sensitive. and I think way too much about this, like, why do I care? But it's because it's not what I would do, but then... So what? So what? So what? But also, at some point, conversations have to end. And it's really difficult online, okay, because if you get something immediately, and then it's like, I'm not in the brain space to have...

I can't have this conversation right now. Like, Georgie sent me a text this morning, and she goes like, oh my God, happy wedding anniversary. I was like, oh, my God, this is so cute. But I opened the message, and then she sent, like, a really thoughtful message. And I was like, I need to reply to this with thought, but I'm sweating my balls off. I've got Bua pulling me over Millennium Bridge. I'm running so late. be with you. I've missed it.

So all I can do is double tap that thing. Is that what you did? And then I said I love you. I double tapped and then said love you. But that's not enough. She gave me a big thing about how watching her best friends get married was the best thing, best day of her. I know. And I was not really like, God, why have I got

happy wedding anniversary. I'm so sorry. I didn't realize. I am not a good friend like Georgie. I genuinely don't even worry about it because I was lying in bed this morning and I got a text to my friend Anna saying happy wedding anniversary and I read it and I looked up at Alex and I was like, oh, happy wedding anniversary and then he shot out the room for a minute and then came back with a big card he was like oh yeah sorry happy wedding so don't worry we're all for going okay all right

yeah so it's but it's really tough because i felt really bad about i need to reply to her now but the thing is it's going to plague me all day yeah i owe georgia reply i owe georgia reply no doubt four days will pass and i'll send her a stupid ticot you'll go into the message and be like oh i'm the worst fuck okay it's gutting isn't it okay i hear what you're saying the worst thing is is I know someone sent me a message about three and a half weeks ago, maybe longer, that I really need to reply to. Okay. And I haven't done it.

Okay. And I think about it every single day. I think about it every single day. And I'm like, oh my God, I need to reply to it. Okay. How important? She was, I met her on holiday. Yeah.

She was so nice. Okay. She was really cool. I met her and her boyfriend and they were like really nice. And I thought, God, I hope we can see them at home. I got her number. Like, well, she got mine, whatever. And then she sent me a text.

I replied to her text. She replied to my text. And I haven't replied to her text. and I don't know why I mean I would say like that's not that's it like

no but we were going to do something for work together oh yeah she she's she's a director and I really want to do something with the hags and like we were talking about okay

that's what her message is about what's wrong with me I do I do kind of get that is it because you don't have a specific idea so it's like it needs thinking before you go back to her

yeah but I should have gone back to her immediately and said give me some time I know this is exactly that thing that it's just like I've been putting off this

task for two years and it would take me 30 seconds. So, like, instead of double-tapping, Georgie, you could have been like, it's absolute chaos here. Thank you so much for your message. I'm going to reply later. That's what I should have done. That's exactly what I should have done. Should I do that now? I think so. Okay, hang on there with me. Oh my God, this is live.

Am I your coach? To be fair, she did just leave me on red with the last one. Georgie, I just want to say that I didn't really acknowledge these messages properly because I just read back and I said, lo, love, you can't believe it's been two years. And that wasn't an adequate quick reply to the lovely message that you sent but I just had a really frazzled morning and I'm sorry and now you're in the podcast studio with us and Alex has made me feel bad about it so I'm just sending your voice in it to say I really love you and I'm sorry we love you like what a lovely message you can't believe it's been two whole years the best day I'm ever watching two of my favorite humans getting married I'm so happy for you both oh I just my yeah honestly it goes on and on that's so nice with all her favorite photos of our wedding day I don't think I have anyone in my life that loves me enough to send me a message like that I love you enough to send a message do you I don't remember your wedding I anniversary. No, I don't, I don't remember. I feel like it was November the 14th. 13th. That was pretty close. Bear in mind, I can't even remember what month's yours. It's today, Al.

It's today. 21st of May. Okay, okay. Apologies. Oh my God, breaking the four fall. We're not recording live, guys. Whoa, yes, 21st of May today. It's my wedding anniversary. I can't believe that's been two years. That's a day. That's fucking wild. What a day. Keep swearing. And I can't keep swearing because my mother's in the building. We're interviewing your mum in a minute. We're interviewing her and she's going to kill me if I say, she had on the train like, don't you dare say fucking? And I was like, I said to her this morning.

That's one of the first things I said. I mean, she can't tell me off. It is what it is. She can't. No, she might try. Oh my God, I am so hot. Is that why you're sweating? It's because your mum's here. I think so.

I don't know. Just lokiy, a bit anxious. Have you been watching? Oh my God, something we haven't talked about. Go on. Topical, because we're not ruling the topics out. No. The tropics?

The topic. I tried to do a pun. I. Topicana. Let's skate over that. Oh my God. I was going to see it. I was going to be like topical, like tropical.

But then I was like it's just, it's also a word. It's so dire. This is it sounds like something I would come out with. Stop it. Yeah, it's really tragic. Sorry. Did you see that guy's speech about women's roles? This is how bad I am at social media, right?

I do keep seeing memes about it. You haven't watched it. Can you talk me through it? And talk anyone else who hasn't watched it through it. So the kicker. Yeah, he's just a football player, right? Yeah, and he got to give... He's in the same team as Taylor Swift's boyfriend.

Okay. I don't know anything about soccer. I don't care for it. I think it's really stupid. I think it's just rugby for babies. And I think I'll get in trouble for saying that. Rugby for babies. But I think rugby's a sport for idiots.

Because the Americans do it right. You should absolutely have a helmet and all that padding on. But just because rugby players, don't, it makes them look weak. Which isn't really fair, because they are being more sensible. Way more sensible. But because, like, because our guys bear back at it, I'm like, I have a list of things that Tommy will never be allowed to do.

Let's hear it. On that list is rugby. I want to hear them. F1 driving. Really? Yes. You're not going to let it be, that would be, imagine. It would be so cool.

We can go to Silveston every year. Absolutely not. You are such a fucking dick. Okay, what else? Horse ride. Nope. But that, but that, what? It's non-negotiable.

It's a nope. Come on. Absolutely not. Okay. Skydive? No, clearly. Don't have to explain that one. I thought I would have to see this logic.

I was fair enough of you. Rugby. No way. Okay, so I'm going to let our horse ride from now. From in a minute. Your name's not safe to Susan, though. No, that's true. Yeah.

But I mean, not on a bloody sort of race horse. Pony ride. Yeah, like Shetland. Like, I want her on like a sofa of a horse. I don't want to even do that because I don't want to give him a taste. I want her to trust. That's a gateway. That's a gateway drug to horses.

It's a pony ride. I don't want that. What about motorcycling? That seems worse than horse racing. Absolutely not. That is also on the list. I don't feel like your list. I don't think the list is. Cycling, no.

No, don't be a twilight. Cycling in a closed complex with a helmet and elbow pads and chin pads and knee pads. But on the road, absolutely not. No road cycling. How is he going to commute? I will drive him. No, I'm just kidding. I'm a toxic boy, mom.

You're a toxic boy, mom. You've got to let, yeah, I was talking to this early. My brother's moving to Australia and Alvers like, I literally have nightmares about Tommy moving to Australia. It's like, what are we going to go now? He's like two minutes old. He's literally, literally, like he's just started holding his own head up. You are never getting on a motorbike. My half-uncle Pete drove a motorbike and my mum said when I was a baby that she put me on the back of it.

or maybe I was in front of him just in my nappy it was a really hot day then we weren't going anywhere I was just sitting on the thing and he was like bouncing me up and down but I'd done a poo and he had his big helmet

and his leather and stuff and he's like bouncing me up to town and when he picked me up there was just like poo all over his pipe that is so embarrassing for you well yeah but I was you should have known better

I was like I was like I was tiny still I don't care I'm gross you got you can't You've got to let him cycle. Cycling's the future. He's growing up in a green, green world. He'll never be able to go to Oxford. I'll think, like the only cycle. I mean, Oxford's too far anyway.

I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Oh, George's replied. Oh, my God, why? See, she's normal. She's normal. She's normal. She didn't even register it. You are quite sensitive.

I am so sensitive. I always have been... And I believe it or not, I am so much better than I used to be, but I am extremely sensitive. But actually, I don't think you should say that anymore. Oversensitive. I don't know.

I got told off saying that one. On Instagram? Yeah. Highly sensitive? I don't know. Who told you off? I don't know. I don't know.

I have to be really careful that I don't want... I don't say to anyone... You're just being oversensitive because everyone's... But I think you can ignore. in yourself that you're being over-sensitive. Oh, and I fully, I, yes, I am oversensitive as a person as well as my behaviour. It's innate in me.

I'm a nightmare to be around. No, you're not, you're a hoot. But you are going to be a horrifyingly toxic boy, mum, and I am going to have to get involved immediately. Toxic. Okay, so the guy who, the kicker, we got distracted, so Harrison's buttke, is his name, and he basically gave a graduation speak. He plays for the Kansas City Chiefs, and he's a kicker.

Oh, so he's a big deal, like football-wise. Yeah, and he basically gave a speech, and he said in it, my wife would tell you that her life only started when we had children, like when she became a mother. Yeah. The world, and he said the world owes you an apology, like owes all the women in this room an apology because they told you you could have it all,

and they told you that you could have a career, when really that's not going to fulfill you and the only thing that's going to fulfill you will be a being a wife or a mother. I mean, it was like so handmade's tale. Wow. My favourite thing was just after he gave the speech, he put out a statement. Wait, who did he give the speech to?

He gave it as a university. No, just like, it was a graduation speech. I don't know why. I guess it was his old uni or something. Okay. I don't really understand that. That feels weird. But then he gave a speech afterwards.

Sorry, he put out a statement afterwards. Everyone is taking what I said out of context. All I said is that we should go back to a better time. Like the 50s and 60s, where men were men and women had more babies than thoughts. when the only Me Too movement was one woman saying she was ready for her fourth child and another woman agreeing. No. That's his statement. He thought that would make it better.

He's not being funny. He's not funny. No, no, no, he's not being funny. He's very serious. What did he put this statement out on? I feel like that's a detail. Like a press release? Yeah, I mean, yeah, maybe Instagram or I don't know.

I don't know where he put it out. What? I know. Isn't that coconut? We're the only Me Too moves. was one woman's ex. She was ready for a full child and another woman agreeing. We're in a weird time. This like... What in the Andrew Tate is that? We're in this really weird

and I really want to talk about this tradwife stuff. I feel like we should do an episode on it. Let's do an episode on it because I actually do have a lot to say on that. I do but interestingly I've got a friend who stays at home with her kids. Yeah. Who I and I completely understand why she feels like this feels quite attacked by the anti-trad wife thing. Totally. But then I subsequently read a lot because I was really interested

by her opinion on that. Yeah. Which I completely understand. But then I've read a lot about how actually the sort of like the trad wife in terms of like the social movement, the Instagram movement, is very much about men pushing their power.

And it's men taking away women's rights rather than women making the empowered decision to stay at home. It's basically this guy, it's Harrison Butker. Fucking out. Yeah, I mean, it's mad. But I do genuinely believe. there are so many men like this

because there's the four B movement of all these women deciding that they don't want to have children and yeah I wonder if we can get someone on to talk about that like a trad wife yeah

yeah I mean there's a lot on Instagram yeah about it but it does feel very divisive because I think at its core you know the women choosing to do this have every right to do that of course

but it's the kind of like have you seen these videos it's like I'm a feminist like of course I'm not going to have my baby in a hospital like I'm a feminist Of course I'll cook dinner For my husband every night

Even though I'm tired Like They're intact They say I'm not a feminist That's like they say I'm not a feminist I won't have my baby enough I'm not a feminist It's becoming very divisive

That's I didn't realize It was like I mean I thought that Instagram and TikTok was just serving me as content Because I had a baby Like I thought I didn't realize That it's actually a rise

In the movement Of the Tad Wife I was just like like oh my god it's always been around now they're just like it's targeting me but it's yeah it's it's huge now it's become so huge I think we should speak to a trad wife because I think there's a lot to say about this

yeah there's so much to unpack within it because it's like I mean it's important the fact of the matter is is it's impossible like women can't afford not to work but they also can't afford to and basically we can't afford to have children like that's the crux of it and we don't we haven't talked enough about that for as two moms like and I know people didn't you know we kind of joked about not wanting to talk about kids and stuff. But like that's one of the things I'm feeling more and more passionate about

the older I get is the fucking cost of childcare. Yeah. And watching my friends having to leave their careers that they love because yeah, they do not earn enough to pay for childcare. Yeah. I think you have to earn 45 grand a year or something. Is it mad? I mean, it does depend. Some people you're, some people are eligible for, because now you get 15, three hours a week. Okay. Okay. It's like, it's not tenable and it's not feasible. And most you know if you're looking at a traditional role the man's salary is probably not enough to cover everything so the woman has to stay at home

it's just and then I don't know and then to have it all being weaponised and it being so divisive it's quite interesting yeah super interesting but we've got to be careful as feminists not to do the like anti-tradwife to the point of making women who are staying at home feel like shit about staying at home

no of course because it's a very valid choice and like cool yeah and some people are forced to do it and some people choose to do it and And either way, you deserve a medal for that. And I've been watching these videos, feeling very icky about these videos and thinking, like, are they actually icky? Or is that me?

Like, projecting my ickiness onto it, onto them. The women showing their trad wife lifestyle. Yeah. I think because so much of it, and again, not stay-at-home mumming, that's a different thing, trad-wife, the specific social Instagram content, that feels very, like, subservient.

that's the kind of underlying rhetoric I feel is it's like I'm serving the man like I'm serving my husband he's gone out to provide for us so I am going to dote on him and that's my role and it's very like gender roles and that's the like that's the that's the that's the that's the that's the that's the exactly yeah you're right that's exactly it because if it's not like and I really enjoy seeing you know like moms who are staying at home who show the reality of like and get their on top of their house and like all the stuff they do in a million you know and all of that and like that is really great relatable content but I feel there's a massive difference between stay-at-home moms and child wives definitely god I just have so I have so much sorry I'm going off here I'm distracted because of a booer but also because I cannot imagine being a stay-at-home mom like that is a serious like a serious job in itself my friend's just given birth her third baby and she's a stay-at-home mom and it is so intense

like I can't even like a lot of people say to me oh my God it must be so hard like having to work already and I'm like it's also hard to stay at home oh god yeah it's also hard to look at

like it's I don't know like it's all just hard but I see this my friend who I was saying about before like she says to me all the time I don't know how you do it and I say to her all the time

I don't know how you do it yeah I don't like I look at her life and I'm like oh my god you're the most amazing mother in the world yeah yeah and actually I don't think I'm a bad mom at all

oh I know but it's weird like it's not like oh I'm a bad mom because I have childcare but I look at her and I'm like fucking hell you're an amazing mum for not having it and it doesn't make women it doesn't make me a bad mum

or you a bad mum for having childcare and support doesn't mean that yeah they are amazing I do think we should discuss this properly in an episode I do too if any trad wives want to get in touch with us I do too and I'd also love to hear

from stay at home mums like how you feel about the trad wife stuff because do you feel like your take do you feel like it's because does it resonate with you do you align with it or do you because because I think yeah what my friends felt is that the the sort of feminist backlash from her friends that had big careers that they were more judgmental of her because of the child I think people I think

do you feel like you're being kind of lumped in with it I guess is like yeah how do you feel if you're a stay-at-home mom yeah tell us let's know I mean but also God love them how are they going to have the time that how do you have the time to do anything? I know, Mom, you're amazing. I know, literally. Yeah, so I think that's really interesting. But I just fascinated that he's not been de-platformed, you know, fucking cancel culture

is not real. I can't believe that statement. I've never heard anything like it. I know, yeah. Does he not have PR? You'd think, but it just seems not to matter. If he's on the same team as Taylor Swift's boyfriend, he's a big deal, right? Yeah, he's like really big football star. Kansas, something, I don't care,

but Kansas is, Way to, like, dig your own grave. Except not really. Except not really. Yeah. Because we're living in this, like, really weird dystopian reality in America where literally you're not allowed to have an abortion. So it's actually not that bigger stretch to, to, to, he's telling women to have babies.

There's no different to what the government's saying. This is so Hans Mitty Tail, Handmaid's Tale. Under his eye. Yeah. It's fucking terrifying. Oh, my God. I know. Blessed be the fruit.

Pleasant be the fruit. It's really scary. I think the internet said it was a bit problematic to make the comparison between America and Hamme's tail, but I don't, I can't remember why, but I just. No, I don't know why. I'm struggling to catch up with everything that is problematic at the moment. Do you remember when I thought Margaret was dead and she wasn't? Do you remember when I did that whole podcast?

I can't believe she's dead and she wasn't. Right, we need to wrap up. But we're going to carry on this conversation. Yeah, we are. But before we go, can we also just talk about how council culture isn't real at all because P. Diddy? Did you see that? Oh my God. And then his apology video.

I couldn't watch his apology video. I actually couldn't watch it. No. I was like, turn it off, turn it off. I can't even... I'm just like not been arrested. It's just... It's disgusting.

Oh my God, we've got so much to talk about and we've got to go, but baby reindeer. Martha Scott... Sorry, I can't remember her name. That's really bad. Oh, the real Martha Scott went on, Pearce Morgan. God, have we not talked about that either?

No, I couldn't watch that either. Could you not? No, couldn't watch it. I was very interested to watch that. I was so interested and then she started talking. I was like, I can't actually watch that. To me, it felt very much. You're right, I felt uncomfortable watching it

because it was so uncomfortable. It felt like a, I don't doubt that it's her I don't doubt that it's her I watch the interview I don't doubt that it's her but also I can imagine the Netflix legal team is extensive yeah it feels weird

that they barely change anything they made it incredibly easy to find her but I just think like peers was I actually thought he went very easy on her because he could because she checked over herself but also I shouldn't have done it

Also, it would have been, I mean, he would have just, it would have been a thousand times worse if he'd have gone hard on her. Oh, my God, yeah. Like, it just felt, so, the whole thing felt wrong anyway. But the whole thing, if people, it's quite interesting, because people are saying, well, if it was a male stalker, he would never have been platformed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is true. Yeah, definitely. It is true.

But then, you know, as we're saying, we're like, P. Diddy and, like, all of that sort of thing. Male abusers do also get. to go and live great lives. So I think it's a bit more complicated. It is. But I think that's one reason that she shouldn't have been given a platform and also like,

I don't want to like, I'm sure I diagnose her, but it's clearly. Well, yeah, it's not great. Issues, right? She's vulnerable. She's very vulnerable. And it is quite exploitative.

Yeah. But Richard Gad was very clear in his, in the show that they're both flawed people. But why not like change some details about the woman, I just don't get it. But to end on a positive note, some really good things have come out of that Netflix series because the incidents of men reporting sexual abuse

has like skyrocketed. Oh, that's good. Really good, yeah. And there's like men asking for help, seeking help. And like, you know, current cases, like current incidences and past incidences. So that's really good. That's positive to come out of it.

Yeah, because that was an interesting thing as well is that obviously he talked in that show about how he'd been raped by a man and no one went to go and find that man. Yeah. And then they all went to go and find her. But, you know, she's a caricature. You know, she's been made a character. It's very weird.

But then he's got his right to tell his story. I know, but change it a bit. I don't know. I don't know. He totally has the right to tell the story. And what brilliant TV show. I think it's one of the best TV shows I've ever seen in my life. It's unbelievable.

Unbelievable. It was so good. Jesus, though. Okay, we've really got to go. Sorry. We are on a tight schedule deadline today. Okay, we love you guys. If you're not coming to the live show, go and.

Buy a ticket. Come to the bloody light show. Yeah, and there are ones available for the next couple of weeks in other areas. Yes. Come find us. Quickly.

Manchester, Glasgow, Bristol, Southampton and Birmingham. Crushed it. Love you. Bye. Love you. Should I delete that is part of the ACAS creator network.