Should I Delete That? - Is It Just Me: Canine conundrum

Episode Date: October 25, 2023

On this week's IIJM, the girls discuss the illuminati, supermarket conveyor belts and coping with a new puppy...Follow us on Instagram @shouldideletethatEmail us at shouldideletethatpod@gmail.comEdite...d by Daisy GrantMusic by Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello Hello How are you? Hello Olin loves it when I do that voice Yeah, it's really weird I'm like, oh God Does it really hurt your throat though?
Starting point is 00:00:16 No No, it really hurts my throat That's voice Yeah, literally people Watch me in public And let's be like, oh my God, why are you raising the demon? Yeah, I'd say that's not a public voice No, it's definitely in that home voice, which is almost weirder.
Starting point is 00:00:31 But can I just say, why is everyone so anti the devil at the minute? Are they? Big time, I feel like Daisy will know this. I don't know why I feel like she'll know it, but I just feel like she's down with the kids enough. But, like, people have got real beef with Sam Smith for lots of reasons. Like, predominantly because they're transphobic and awful and fatphobic on whatever else. But the stuff people have real beef with them for is being satanic.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Satanic. Yeah. The show in Los Angeles or something. And it was all red. Yeah, I kind of watch a TikTok about that but I didn't really understand what it was going at. Everyone's really cross that they're like worshipping the devil and it's like...
Starting point is 00:01:06 Illuminati stuff. Yeah, but I think they're really worshipping the devil. I think they just look hot and red, you know what I mean? Creative license. Yeah, I'm like, doja cats doing it. But like people are like really got beef with like people devil worshiping. But it's like they're not actually being like... I love the devil.
Starting point is 00:01:21 I love the devil. Like I love this, I love the devil. Like I think they're just, you know, I think it's just camp. And also like the devil doesn't like like... actually oh no i can't say that i mean you you can't exist right well i mean he like he might in the same that god does like Alex thinks that that if there's good there has to be evil so a lot of like christians would argue for example that if there's good that bad if there's god there's the devil okay it's like i didn't mean to disrespect anyone's religion no you don't know what you don't know
Starting point is 00:01:50 al it's okay um but yeah it's it it it feels quite abstract too yeah do people are really like upset about it and it's like if you don't like what they're worshipping don't worship they don't there worship something else like let's each worship our own thing like the TikTok I saw about it the music behind the video is like yeah and I was like I honestly don't understand what you're getting at like they have like devil symbols in their show so what I didn't get it oh my god I forgot to tell you I got an invitation to the Illuminati a couple of weeks ago via Instagram DM yes did you Yes, I did. Did you accept?
Starting point is 00:02:27 I did not. Okay. No, I've got enough on my plate. I can't. I'm contact napping. I can't go out. I haven't got time. But yeah, no, I was invited.
Starting point is 00:02:36 I was overwhelmed with excitement and I thought, God, I can't wait to tell all about this. And it was the Illuminati themselves. Obviously, they're quite in touch with you. Wow. Wow. Wow, indeed. That's really cool.
Starting point is 00:02:46 There is speculation within my head that perhaps they might have bought the blue tick. Don't doubt it. No, no. Yeah, I don't know. I think that's the first step of the Illuminati. You don't doubt the Illuminati. That's probably a good place to start. You don't deserve a place there.
Starting point is 00:03:00 No, fair enough. Well, you know, it's not in my Illuminati era right now. But if they want to come back in a year or two, I could be. You never know. I could be tempted. I don't really know what the Aluminati is. They're going to receive the invitation, aren't they? I have read so much on this and watched so much on this, and I still can't tell you what it is.
Starting point is 00:03:15 But Tom Cruise is in it. I'm going to ask a weird question. Maybe a stupid one, probably. But, like, what's wrong if someone wants to worship? devil. I'm with you. Like people worship all souls. I know. I agree. I agree. Is there something of like something more significant about worshipping the devil? Does it mean you kill people? Well, I mean, I think probably the associations are not great. I feel like evil isn't good. That's what I feel like. But I'd say that evil in like biblical terms is like super bad. It's like end of the
Starting point is 00:03:48 world. It's like apocalyptic. It's like murder. Murdering. Yeah. It's super bad. So yeah, that's probably not great but then I'm also just like let people live you know what I mean like if they want to worship the devil let them worship the devil as long as they're not harming right I think people could argue that they are harming but then we could argue that everything's harmful like banning abortion I'd go ahead and say objectively harmful yeah and they use the Bible to do that so I don't know so I think we can let Sam Smith I don't know have their shows with redness in and devilness in yeah yeah yeah you get those horns Yeah, good it. Queen and King.
Starting point is 00:04:26 I'm going to do some research on this and come back to you. On the devil. Yeah, on Satanism, worshipping the devil. This sounds right on my street, actually. It's not great. I actually, I don't think we should advocate for it. But we're not, you know, we're just... No, no, no, no, it's not for me.
Starting point is 00:04:39 I've actually just turned down an invitation from the Illuminati, so... I left them on red, guys. I'm the goodie here. They're going to get you for that, you know. Well, be careful if I were you. they know that you've they're all the all seeing eye but how will they get me it would be a little suspicious after this episode goes out and then pooh ven goes missing oh my god I have my own is it just me hit me I took a picture of it on my phone so
Starting point is 00:05:12 I would remember um when you're in a supermarket right and you're queuing up at the till and you've got a uh carousel what do you call them um A carousel? Do you know what I mean? What you put your food on? Carousel is a multi-purpose word. Yeah. But the definition is like four days long.
Starting point is 00:05:31 I don't think this is what I'm thinking of. The conveyor belt, the conveyor belt. That's it, that's it. Conveyor belt. Oh, great, deep satisfaction. Right, okay. So there's someone in front of you, there's someone behind you.
Starting point is 00:05:42 When you've put your food on the conveyor belt, or your toiletries or a mix of both, you never know. What do you do after that with the divider because I feel like I feel like it's passive-aggressive to put the divider down after my stuff and I feel like it's rude
Starting point is 00:06:02 I'm not buying your stuff yeah exactly don't you dare try and gag in on my order I see you you butt out it's my boundary you get away right yeah
Starting point is 00:06:13 but not putting it down is like you're inconsiderate you're rude I think it's a little flirty I think it's a little like invitation you get in with mine I see those cannoloni beans
Starting point is 00:06:24 for a couple more Yeah, no, I agree Do you not know what I mean? It's a little slolly that Isn't it? Yes, I think Be bold Put it down
Starting point is 00:06:34 Be bold It just screams Passive aggressiveness to me Passive aggression I do agree Yeah Oh god So I always hesitate
Starting point is 00:06:43 I don't know what to do Hmm I don't know I just wondered if anyone Had any advice Or am I Is this just a situation That just doesn't need thinking
Starting point is 00:06:52 about probably i think yeah no i think it needs thinking about but i just don't think it's an easily resolvable one but i have an equally stressful predicament if you choose not to do the the cashier one and you decide to do self-service oh al the other day i went to go do my shop yeah got the sticker for my broccoli yeah got to the self-service checkout where's the sticker gone where's the fucking sticker i don't know so then i have to do the whole thing again and the woman it's a fourth time she's come over to me because have you ever noticed if you buy something light like like a bag of spinach or as I was doing because Cavalonero is in season everybody. So I bought three bags of Cavaloreau and some kale because I wanted to air fry it. I digress. Can you tell my
Starting point is 00:07:30 iron's low? I'm like Cavalineero, spinach, kale. Anyway, bought the lot. It's very light. It doesn't recognize it as being in the baggage area. That is so annoying. It is so annoying. So then you apply a little bit of pressure that's like putting something in. But then when you remove your hand, bags like put it back in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't want my hand. Self-checkouts have been around for a really long time now they could have sort this out. And they still is stupid. Yeah, they should be more weight sensitive than that. A hundred percent. So I'd already had the lady over like three times for all the spinach debacles. And then the broccoli, I'd lost the thing. Where was it? Stuck to the back of my coat. How embarrassing. I walked the whole
Starting point is 00:08:07 way home to the Tendstown broccoli. Ew. Anyway. So yeah, so that's, you can't win anywhere. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I came to a compromise of put it down and give them a nice smile. put the divider down and give them a nice like get the fuck away from my groceries no like I'm helping you out I'm not being rude smile you know yeah like this world's hard to navigate honestly let me tell you that it's cruel that's all I know you won't even buy
Starting point is 00:08:35 yeah won't even offer to buy oh god yeah I won't even offer to buy them they're beans speaking of a cruel and unfair world I've got a tweet to read out to you that I really liked I don't think they're called tweets anymore X's I've got an ex
Starting point is 00:08:51 I've got a kiss Okay This is from DeNusia I once admired A beautiful coat On a mannequin in Top Shop Like full on admiration I stroked it
Starting point is 00:09:01 I brushed my face against it Please don't judge me It was a very cosy looking coat Only to realise that the coat wasn't hanging on a mannequin It was hanging on a real girl A real human being She loved her face
Starting point is 00:09:12 On a stranger She stroked it and brushed her face Against it I get the urge to do that one of my favorite things to do is with frosted cellar tape and rub that on my cheek can come again like frosted cellar tape you know the one that's like matte
Starting point is 00:09:29 no that's all my favorite things in the world like not the shiny cellar tape the other one cellotape as in the brand's cellotape what yeah and it comes in that little holder that you use to cut the cellar tape do you mean the brand cellar tape's just cellar tape It's a brand, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:09:49 Cellotape. Cellot tape's just sellotape, though. I think it's a brand. It is, it's a brand. Yeah, but it's still like sellota. It's still like, it's, it's a, it's a, but sellotap just have the mark, they just own the market.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Right? Like, imagine being, they've got an R after their name. What does that mean? Little R. It's that registered. Yeah, they're a brand. What? I'm thinking, I know, I know what you mean.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Sell a tape. Salatate. I didn't know celetate was just a brand. I'm just, see, capitalism's crazy. Look at me. I've been repping my whole life. I don't even know. I'm thinking of the black holder. You know the cellotate black holder? Yeah. Oh, I love the one full of sand. That levels Christmas. Oh, yes. Yes. Yeah, putting salot tape but a cellot tape holder. That is peak grown up. Yes, yes, yes. I actually know what you mean by the, the frosted one. It's so. nice. It is
Starting point is 00:10:48 salatate I can't believe that cellar tape is just a brand and cellar tape's not actually called cellar tape I think is
Starting point is 00:10:54 what you mean no I mean salatates I just mean tape I didn't know cellar tape oh yeah
Starting point is 00:11:01 no maybe not I just mean tape like just tape like you got a rapid present I get what you mean drinking game every time I say
Starting point is 00:11:09 cellar tape salatap cellar tape but yeah that's what Daisy just said as well you know Hoover's not what it's called
Starting point is 00:11:14 vacuum clean is what it's actually called, Hoover's just a brand. So when we say, can we get the Hoover? Yeah, it's the same a cellotape. I've never heard of the brand Hoover. Yes, you have, because you know what a Hoover is. You'd be so annoyed if you invented the vacuum cleaner,
Starting point is 00:11:29 and then somebody came along and was like, we'll call them Hoovers because I've made, I'm calling mine a Hoover, and then everybody just called it Hoover. So annoying. We've got a shock, right? Which I really like. Do you? Rate it. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:11:39 But every time I use it, go near it, see it, whatever. I have, baby, Shaq do, do, do, do, do it. my head do do do do baby yeah fair enough yeah good so i'm considering selling it i'll buy it something else okay do you want to stop drives me mad i've put the dyson and it's crap i've heard that the dyson's crap i'm so upset you know how expensive it is it's expensive it's so expensive and we didn't have enough space we had henry right so we had my mom's henry from when i left when i when i moved out my mom had building work done and her henry was trash and it was like full of like cement and everything and it didn't He didn't look, he just looked tired.
Starting point is 00:12:16 And we were like, I thought, I'll take him. Please. I'll take him. It's like, I'll say my mum a big favour, but actually I was to stealing a hoover. And I had it for ages. But there's just wasn't some space in my house. It is such a ball wake. Like, so we were like, okay, we're going to grow up.
Starting point is 00:12:30 We, you know, like the, the dice and you can stick it to the wall. It's light. Like, it's just. Wow. I know. I know. But shit. So shit.
Starting point is 00:12:40 It runs out of battery like that. Yeah, that's so annoying. I think anti-influencer right now. because I'm an air-wrapped girlie so it pains me to say it but the hoover's app you know what we've done we've bought Henry
Starting point is 00:12:52 I'm going to sell the Dyson Oh you bought Henry Do they still look like the traditional Henry? Yes because I gave that Henry I gave the Henry that I stole from my mum I gave back to my brother when I got the Dyson because I leveled up
Starting point is 00:13:02 or so I thought and now I can't ask him for it back although I could offer him a Dyson he'll be like oh hell yeah yeah this is what growing up is Alex this is growing up we've talked
Starting point is 00:13:13 horrendous podcast content This is so boring We need to talk about something else Sorry We need to talk about something exciting I've got and is it just me Hit me But it's a canine conundrum
Starting point is 00:13:22 Oh no I know I know that is not not something I ever want to see A canine and conundrums Oh no Hi team Huge fan of the pod
Starting point is 00:13:30 And I've listened to every episode God love you Since day one Always feels like tuning Into catch up with pals And it's just lovely And supportive and hilarious space you've created
Starting point is 00:13:37 Thank you Please don't stop making the pod Because it makes Mondays and Thursdays Oh I read that As please don't stop making it because it makes Mondays and Thursdays less fun. But she said, please, it will stop because they wouldn't be less fun.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Haven't it just me, I'd love to hear your thoughts on. Earlier this year, I acquired a Labrador puppy. She was a total surprise for my birthday, and I didn't know I was getting her until the day me and my husband went to pick her up. I was so over the moon, but also extremely shocked and scared, as I love dogs, but I never grew up with them and never had one of my own before. A month before this, I started a brand new job. It was a big, it was for a big organisation, and it was a brand new role,
Starting point is 00:14:12 and I was recruited to scope out and set out a new service. So this was my most established job role to date, more money and for a somewhat prestigious workplace. So I was feeling the pressure. Throw a puppy into the mix and I can't tell you how overwhelmed I was. Despite this, I threw myself into trying to figure out how to navigate everything.
Starting point is 00:14:27 I'm somewhat of a perfectionist. Throw in a history of anxiety, an imposter syndrome and you can imagine how over my head I was. I've spent hundreds in one-on-one training sessions, classes, new beds and toys. And of course, all the monthly costs which come with a pet that I hadn't considered. My husband is self-employed and out of the house.
Starting point is 00:14:42 house all day, six days a week. I do hybrid working, trying to work from home with a puppy whilst doing my job and maintaining life has been so demanding. I can't leave her all day, but I can't afford to put her in daycare or have a walker come every day because the cost is so high. She's getting easier in some ways, but it's also becoming a teenager in acting up in more and she's huge. So I'm still trying to keep up with all training and extra walks, hand feeding, running around the garden with her to tie her out. I feel like I've been thrown into this role with no time or planning. And I'm just about holding it together at work, but finding it's so hard to give anything 100%.
Starting point is 00:15:13 The thing is, my dog is my best friend, my child, and I've grown to love for in a way I've never experienced before. I'm fully embracing the dog mom life. Before this, we've been talking about having children but hadn't actually started trying. Now I can't imagine doing everything. I'm already doing with a baby and a young child. I know the dog will get easier to manage,
Starting point is 00:15:27 and I recognize some people might be listening, thinking how pathetic I might sound feeling they're stressed over a dog, but it's turn my life upside down. And I want to know if this is something others can relate to you because I feel simultaneously like I'm at the brink of a complete overwhelm and burnout, but also like I've gained the most special thing in the world. please help can I just say like why do I want to cry I know what you just said there at the end you said I feel like my life's been turned upside down and I feel simultaneously like I'm at the
Starting point is 00:15:52 brink of complete overwhelming burnout and also like I've gained the most special thing as a best friend of the world I'll totally cry because that's just been me I was going to say it's that that sounds like you yeah like that's literally how I felt for like the last month so like our babies have differing amounts of hair but I'm basically right there with you I completely get it and if it makes you feel any better. I don't know what's happened for me, but like something in the last like week has just shifted. And I feel like the sun's come out and I feel way better. So I feel like it will come. It will get easier for you because you've got the love and this is the hardest bit. But like, fuck I feel for you. I do too. And I don't think it sounds pathetic at all.
Starting point is 00:16:33 No, I don't. Not at all. Like it sounds really hard. Did she say when she got this dog? Quite recently, I think. Yeah. I'm wondering how recently, because it does take a while, doesn't it? Yeah. She sounds like an amazing dog mom. I know, amazing. Like all the training, the one-on-ones, the walks. And I'm just going to say it in case you were being too nice to,
Starting point is 00:16:54 like you can be a bit annoyed with your husband if you want. Definitely. Like he got you a dog, which is cute, but he didn't think. And that is annoying. That is annoying. And you're going to make it work because you sound like you're that kind of person. But if you're annoyed, fair enough. Totally.
Starting point is 00:17:10 And he's out six days a week. he should have thought of that. What did she say about walker again? It's too expensive to find a walker and full dog sitting. Yeah. I mean, daycare is really expensive. Yeah. If you look for like local dog walkers in your area,
Starting point is 00:17:24 might find someone who's affordable and who does a good walk with her. I don't think my best friend on mine is saying this, but she got, she has a dog, like love of her life, loves him so much to do anything for him. But he, it's a source of huge stress for them. he is a like he's huge and he's like has certain behavioral things that make him just slightly hard work and like it's it's like and I think she kind of feels like you in that it's like you don't want to moan because it's like only a dog and whatever and it should be
Starting point is 00:17:57 really easy but she doesn't find it really easy she finds it really hard and it's a lot like it's a lot you have to be at home at the right time and have a you know spend the money on a walker and get home in time for everything and And it's hard, like, I found it really hard at first. Like, honestly, for like months, I thought, like, shit, have we made, I wouldn't say this out loud, but I did, I did think in my head, like, did we make a mistake here? Like, what did we, like, why did we turn our lives upside down? And I was, like, Googling this stuff as well.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Like, and I joined, I joined a forum about puppy blues because I was like, I just, I feel awful and I love her so much and she's so precious and she's our responsibility. and like she's so helpless but at the same time it's like oh my god I don't know how to manage you I'd also never had dogs growing up either but she settles down into routine and you settle down into a routine
Starting point is 00:18:50 and everything becomes easier everything does in life it does get easier that's something I've learned from having a baby I don't know how long she's had this dog for so I don't want to like but they do say it takes like three months for the dog to actually settle into their
Starting point is 00:19:05 their new environment doesn't it I think she said he's a teenager she's a teenager now. It's really hard. It's hard for both of you, but when you settle down into routine, I mean, Betty's still naughty,
Starting point is 00:19:15 as you know, but like we know how to handle her naughtiness now. But that's what you do learn. Like, if you've never had, like I think, for me,
Starting point is 00:19:24 I've always found Bua quite easy, but that's because my mum's got five dogs. Like I've always, and we've always had a million dogs. Like, whether it be like fosters or ones living with us,
Starting point is 00:19:34 like we're just dog, like, so when I, and also Buwer's a very easy, easy dog and like when I got her it was like it was a bit of like what but I just we just I kind of knew exactly I think it was much harder for Alex because he'd never had dogs but yeah but I didn't get that until I had Arlo because I'd never had a kid before and I was like holy shit like yeah and you there's no question that you're going to make it work because of course you just you're just gonna
Starting point is 00:20:01 you love this thing so much but when you don't have a clue what you're doing and it's tiring to not know and it's tiring to have to think like I think that's the thing. That's what I'm getting from this message is it's like you're going to make it work and you are making it work. But it's just really tiring to have to think about how you're going to make it work every single day. And it's okay just to sit and just sit within that and be like, this sucks. Like this is hard. And it is really annoying that you're having to think that you've basically been given a massive responsibility that you now have to think about all the time. You didn't choose it. That's the kind of
Starting point is 00:20:38 crazy thing about this. But even if you did choose it, like I chose to have a baby and I'd still, and you know, and you chose to get Betty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you still felt like shit. Yeah. This is really hard. But you've got the compounded issue that you just didn't know it was coming. So yeah, you're literally, your whole world was turned upside down. You did not time to prepare. No. And it is, like, it is stressful. And like, I still have it with when Arlo, like, Arlo, like, Arlo's got a best friend. My friend, Sophie had a baby Delilah two days after Arlo, like, couldn't be happy about it. Like, they are, like,
Starting point is 00:21:07 Bessies. When I put them down together in soft play or whatever, as the dog mum, I literally look at them, like, I'm so on edge because I'm like, what if they bite? Like, I'm so terrified that, like, Arlo is going to bite Delilah because that's, like, the dog. And that's because you have to be on high alert when you have a dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't have a relaxing walk to the park.
Starting point is 00:21:27 You've got to be like, hit my dog's okay. Are they okay? They're running the other road. Are they, like, not annoying anybody else. They're going to steal any kids' food. Are they going to jump up on another dog? Are they going to start a fight?
Starting point is 00:21:34 Like, you've got to have these thoughts all the time. I think this is how I would describe it, is that when I got Betty, I was overwhelmed by the responsibility because I'd never had any responsibility before, ever, really, apart from myself. So I was overwhelmed by the responsibility and freaked out and panicked about that. But then eventually there came a point where that,
Starting point is 00:21:59 panic, overwhelm and freak out by the responsibility was outweighed. by how much joy she brought to my life and how much I loved her. And then everything, all that responsibility was like, oh, I actually like this. Yeah. I don't like it. I don't like having to like, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:17 it's expensive, obviously having a dog. And you have to think a lot and you have to plan. But like, that's all like a welcome part of my life because I love her so much. So I do think at some point there's scales tip and that starts to outweigh the bad stuff. Yeah, and I think there is a mindset thing as well. Like, I guess where I'm kind of out now,
Starting point is 00:22:34 with like I think when I first again just like using Arlo as an example because it's actually more relatable than when I actually got my dog which sounds weird but um like when I first had Arlo it was fine because it was like everything's out the window but then you know like routine everything is like whoa and then it was only as I really got like fully back to work yeah that I couldn't do it anymore and it was like I just I couldn't juggle both things and I think that's the that was the stage that I found difficult and it kind of sounds like that's where you are now where you kind of you've got your feet to an extent but then you also you still got like you've just you've just got way too much on it's like kind of not the magic I don't know it's like all the grace
Starting point is 00:23:14 periods over and then you just actually this is your real life and you've got to make it work but at some point for me at least it does feel that you can have a mindset a mindset shift where it's like okay I read a quote that was actually really important for me at this time when I was feeling really overwhelmed which was you can't control the storm you can only control yourself and the storm will pass yeah and it's like that doesn't mean like the dog will pass um but it just means like the feeling fingers crossed um the feelings of stress yeah they will go yeah like this isn't your reality this isn't your life with a dog like this is just your reality right now and like there will be a time in the future where this isn't a hundred percent that anymore yeah you just have to
Starting point is 00:23:57 wait sometimes and that's annoying but you will like everything is temporary what is it the oh i can't remember meg said it to me the other day and it literally was so profound and we were like on a walk and i've been obviously feeling very overwhelmed and she was saying what did she said you're the weather something maybe she said you're the weather and the clouds will pass or something like that and i was like oh love that and you're the sky like you're the sky and the clouds will pass yeah so i'd say if you can just like hold on and like just do not beat yourself And also, ask for a bit of help. And if it makes you feel better,
Starting point is 00:24:31 tell him that he's just been a prick and needs to step up. And actually just, it just needs to help you sort this situation out. If he can't get out of working six days a week in an office, then he needs to help you sort this, find a solution to the situation. Because it's your dog as a couple. It was his idea.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Like, you both benefit from the dog. 100%. Like, he doesn't just get to pass this. It's like, oh, it's your birthday present. Yeah. Ask for help. Yeah. 100%.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Don't ask for it. demand it we love you we love you and you're allowed to feel like this perfect okay well i think that's all we have time for okay so well good luck yeah love you love you've been a fucking mess this episode i know why do i feel like i want to cry okay well we will see you guys and we want to hear from you and dms or on instagram but what you do with the um cash the self-service the no the cash the barrier the barrier on the conveyor belt you're fredgered or you're teasing love you guys see you on monday thank you thank you so much for listening. Should I delete that is part of the ACAS creator network.

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