Should I Delete That? - Is It Just Me: Casual sexism and roasted veg

Episode Date: August 3, 2022

In this week’s Is It Just Me? the girls discuss the public reactions to the Lionesses' legendary victory against Germany (especially from the men in your lives), wedding dress photos and Em's air-fr...yer obsession...Follow us on Instagram @shouldideletethatEmail us at shouldideletethatpod@gmail.comProduced & edited by Daisy GrantMusic by Alex Andrew Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello everyone. Welcome to our Thursday episode. Is it just me? Usually isn't. No, it's not. Maybe we should just rename it and know it isn't just you. Okay, to kick us off, we have a topical DM. Hi ladies. I have an Is It Just Me? Obviously goes without saying I love the pod. But is it just me that finds it hard to deal with their partner getting sucked into things they know goes against who they really are. We were at the pub watching the football and when Chloe Kelly scored her goal, everyone in the pub cheered as normal. But once she took her shirt off, the roars of the men instantly got louder and there were more vulgar comments that were made which my partner sadly joined in with a bit. After the game, I made my feelings clear and really tried to explain why this behaviour is wrong. He did apologise but also said that it was a joke and that I should know
Starting point is 00:00:56 he isn't like that really which he absolutely isn't and is normally very respectful but it's situations like this where he can't help but join in have you got any advice like that's just a really good example of toxic masculinity and lad culture and like i would love i would love to sit so many men down and like what or just watch men for a day and watch how they operate at home versus how they do when they're with the lines. It's like that how, did you ever watch Harry and Paul, the TV show? There's like, it's Harry Enfield and Paul Whitehouse did a TV show like back in the day. Oh.
Starting point is 00:01:39 And they were a duo. They did those and stuff. And they had this one sketch about the builders. And it would be like, the builders would be sitting there and they'd be like reading the telegraph and being like, oh my, did you, did you catch the opera last night? I really thought that session on the violin was amazing. And then a woman would walk past and they'd put it down and be like, yeah, get it out. show is your tits and like they were just basically really leaning into this idea and then didn't
Starting point is 00:02:00 really want to do that they just did it because they felt like they had to and I would I would love to know the like the balance on that but I'd say you're so not alone I've had French chats with my girlfriends about this who have said that their partners change when they're with the boys and it like drives them around the bend no that it that is shit though that is shit if you're seeing a difference when he's with the lads and like the lad culture i guess like i don't know part of me's a bit like oh he just wants to fit in but yeah part of me's like oh like a little bit of leeway but at the same time no because he needs to be told that like come on you know better than that like do better than that it is like it's it's hard to like
Starting point is 00:02:45 I think to stick your head above the parapet. Like, it's one thing to not join in, but to, like, to berkeley disagree with somebody or with the boys or, like, with the culture is really difficult. Like, you know, because I can't imagine a situation where he would, like, safely, and I literally have never met your boyfriend, so I've got no idea.
Starting point is 00:03:03 But I can't imagine a situation where a lot of men I know would ever feel confident enough to go to the boys in the pub when they're all, you know, yelling whatever about Chloe Kelly and her sports bra. all right lads pack it in actually we could do without that that's not very respectful like I could never imagine anybody what having the basically the balls to do that because it's kind of scary to go against the thing on that it's totally and you do want to fit in like some like how many people and boys and girls do this how many people will like lie about music like artists that they like because they just want to be yeah it's it's human part of the human condition isn't it it's part of like being part of the pack and being safe so it is like white like hardwired in us but like god if i saw a man being like do you mind lads like don't i would be i'd be like oh my god i'm obsessed with her yeah not in a sexual way just like oh my god what a legend i yeah i think it would be like maybe you need to say to your partner maybe like a good place to start it's like
Starting point is 00:04:08 look i'm not asking you to always call it out every time in this context because it that is scary and I understand that but I'm just asking you to not actively participate in it and yeah like that's you know silence is powerful and you can just sit there and say nothing you don't need to be a part of it whilst also silence is powerful and his lack of participation will not go unnoticed yeah because you know sometimes when you think you made a really good joke and then like it's just crickets yeah or even like you know I know I know I notice if like one person isn't laughing and I'll be like oh have I missed the exactly Have I missed the mark there?
Starting point is 00:04:46 Yeah, yeah, exactly. But I think it's like, it's what Al said about, like, he wants to feel part of the pack and this is what the pack are doing. This is what the pack have always done. They are, unfortunately, misogynistic, like, by nature. This is football culture, particularly. And it's been a really interesting crossover with the Euros. Because obviously it's had a huge new demographic of, like, women watching football,
Starting point is 00:05:09 and that's great, and girls watching football and stuff. But the original football supporters have also what. watch the euros and that is famously an incredibly toxic culture so I suppose it's not the biggest surprise in the whole world that that toxicity is coming out of it totally yeah like I completely understand why you find that difficult and I think like stay on your partner and but I think do it in the way that's like give them the confidence to know that you support them because it can be really scary to feel like that they're going to go against you need to say to them like I support you I'll be really proud of you if you cannot
Starting point is 00:05:44 partake in this. I know why it's hard, but I would really appreciate this and this is why it matters and make them feel, see why they're doing it and why it's so important to you. Yeah, and like reframe it in a, I think that's such a good point actually, not be like, you don't do that and you can't do that. And if you do that, I won't, you know, I'll be mad at you or whatever, which is probably the line I would take. But I think, like, positive. not reinforcement what's the word but you know like asking for it in a really positive way and like framing it as a very positive thing you know so it's not like because I think that's what you were saying before about the safety is it's like if they're going to if if he's going
Starting point is 00:06:28 to feel ostracized from his mates he needs to know that he's safe with you and that's I know that's a lot of like emotional labor for women to have to do and then we shouldn't have to carry men around because they're doing the bare minimum but you're in a loving relationship we can see that it's difficult for your partner so let's just you know not read too much into it and just maybe offer them a safe way to be like look I've got your back and you don't need to do that and I'm here with you and we're just not going to do that anymore okay and then you're the team and he doesn't need to worry so much about that about the men kicking him out or judging him or whatever because if someone said to me like don't push the red button like actually no I do
Starting point is 00:07:06 I do I tend to obey authority so I probably wouldn't push the button but I would want to push the button because I'd be like I want to rebel and push the button but I never would If someone said, don't do that, I'm not telling you you can't do that. But if someone said to you, I would really appreciate if you didn't push that big red button because it means a lot to me that you don't push it and da-da-da, I'd be like, oh my God, I do not want to push the big red button in any way. Did that make any sense? Of course.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Yeah. Of course. Not that. You do fear authority. I do. I am very like, I am, I like to obey. Do you want to do your other football one? Hello, I have a dilemma, which would be interesting to hear on, is it just me? by the way I love the podcast I listen to you every Monday for a wee pick me up
Starting point is 00:07:46 is it just me that sits there listening to sexist comments and not speaking up I watched the euros at the local pub and it was brilliant the support it got and I was so proud of my mate of my male mates coming along and proper taking an interest in the sport they all knew the players and all their talents in every detail about the team possible however I felt very disappointed more with myself than anyone else when I heard men saying show me your tits or spread those legs how do I call out these harmful comments. I know these men are doing well by actually coming to watch the football and having done the research and I don't want to scare them away by telling them that one comment's inappropriate.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Am I a bad feminist for excusing these comments? Oh my God, I've literally really so hard to this. Okay, I do, but like I feel like the men that are saying spread your legs or show as your tits, we don't want them there in the first place. No. So I wouldn't worry about scaring those twats away. That's true. They are her friends though, so you could be careful. Disgusting. Oh, sorry. Well, it is, no, you're right. It is disgusting. Or maybe they're just worth people in the pub. I don't know. It is, it is gross.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Like, it is really gross. Sorry if they're your friends. But that is, that is rank. That is really rank. Yeah, it's not good. Sometimes I think it's not worth the fight. I had some comments from certain men, during the Euros, about how women play so dirty and women rest don't know the rules.
Starting point is 00:09:09 And, like, women aren't as technical, or whatever and these are people that I know right and sometimes like I definitely felt with the euros that it wasn't worth the fight and I was actually talking to Ellie who I was watching the game with one of my best friends and she was like don't even because I was getting a lot of shit from it online actually one of the hags posts before the game kind of hit the wrong algorithm and a lot of men were making shit comments or whatever about how dirty they oh I'll give you a really good example one guy I know sent me sent in a group that I know in sent a photo a couple of weeks ago of a pile of dirty dishes going god can't they come home
Starting point is 00:09:48 already or something along those lines right because you know now this is a single man who's 38 i just want to carry it as i'm like right who are you waiting to come home and do your own dishes you absolutely lose it i loved it on the group because every my mom was in the group as well randomly in this WhatsApp group but everybody left it was just silence which i loved and then he sent the same thing but with a load of ironing literally same me but with a load of ironing literally same mean but with a load of ironing during the euros going don't worry lads they'll be home soon I literally I I got like prickly hands I was so fucking angry and I literally there were so many things I wanted to say like you're a single fucking man who's nearly 40 you have to do your own ironing because
Starting point is 00:10:30 can't get a woman to stick around blah blah blah blah I was ready to like burn burn burn burn but then I was like I don't want to ruin boo her not now she's rubbing herself on the rug I don't want to ruin what is an incredible experience for me, for women, for feminism. By arguing with a fucking moron, like he's not having today. I don't want to give him the satisfaction. He wants a rise. So I literally just replied in the WhatsApp group being like,
Starting point is 00:10:55 that wasn't funny last week either. Kiss. And then, lost it. And then my mom chimes in and she's like, oh my God, how great are these girls literally loving watching the football? And my sister's like, ha, ha, ha.
Starting point is 00:11:05 And then, like, my brother was in there and he was, like, supporting the football again. And it was just like, And my brother was like, yeah, they're playing grey, whatever. And it was like, this guy's comment just got completely, like, ignored. And I think sometimes we have to choose if we want the fight at our own expense. Because yes, there's a time to educate them. And yes, there's a time to school them.
Starting point is 00:11:29 But it shouldn't be at the time. That's what Ellie was saying to me about Instagram. She was like, don't make a post about these comments because it's just taking away from what's important. And the fact is, is we won. And that alone signs. silences them and that in itself is power and the petty fucking bitch in me wants to be like no I want to show them all but she's actually in that instant she's spot on high road every single day I know those comments are different to the like spread your legs because that is
Starting point is 00:12:01 actually fucking gross and I think if it were me in that situation I'd probably be like shut the fuck up but not like a full tirade just like ooh like you like you like you like a little shit down. Yeah, just like, that's really embarrassing what you just said. Yeah. I like, I like to tell them it was embarrassing. I like to make that little. Yeah, because... Like, what, are you all right? Like, how embarrassing?
Starting point is 00:12:25 It's so embarrassing. But then I don't want this girl to feel like, oh, like, annoyed at herself for not doing, for not saying anything because I totally, I mean, we had this discussion on Monday about the woman on the train to remember who was talking about her, her, like, it's, it's difficult, it's really difficult to like call someone out in real life. Like it is very difficult and it's not, it's also not your responsibility. No, it's not the, you know, the victim's job or the oppressor's job or whatever to educate the person that's oppressing them or, you know, that's making, I don't know, that's, we're not, I don't know what the quite
Starting point is 00:13:04 wording is that, but it's not a woman's job. Yeah, the oppressed. Yeah, it's not your job to educate men and we already carry a huge emotional you know weight and do do the bulk of the emotional shit and you shouldn't have to rinse yourself and you know like exhaust yourself constantly educating this men I noticed one thing that you said in this email was that you like they already did well by showing up and I completely get what you mean by that but also like I think a big part of this has got to be like stopping celebrating the bare minimum from men like they didn't show up for women they showed up because they wanted to watch the football so like that's fine and that's that you're right that is really cool but we don't need to celebrate
Starting point is 00:13:50 them coming and I do get that it's really exciting to have men on board because I've definitely felt like that and I've loved seeing men like be totally like supporting and it does feel really good to have like men on on our team and I completely understand why you feel like that but I think if we're not too careful if we have to feel like we're celebrating them then it makes it very difficult because we don't want to rock the boat. We're like, well, we've already got them here. So we don't want to now, you know, do anything to scare them off. But actually, it's like what Al said earlier, if they're going to be that easily scared off, then let them go. You know, we want people on our team that are going to fundamentally respect us. And if they're,
Starting point is 00:14:27 they're there to see a fucking vagina, then they're not there for the right reasons. If they're there to watch the player's technicality, technical abilities. But I think this is also a big part of what we were saying earlier. I think it's the previous girl sender. Same thing. again it's lad culture most of these men probably don't even mean it they're probably really enjoying the football but they can't quite admit that because for some reason that they're worried that everyone will think they've got a little dick if they say that they're enjoying women's football end of sentence so they say the good thing and then they have to put it down because that's kind of where we're at I think with a lot of like toxic toxic masculinity it's the
Starting point is 00:15:03 not all men stuff it's like they're kind of with us but they've got to like hold on to this like misogynistic safety somehow exactly to that girl don't know do not worry you didn't yeah you it's not on your shoulders and look we're making huge progress and those people will be left behind and i think sometimes an eyebrow says it all yeah and like ellie said and you said like what happened on someday silences them or just leaves them feeling very embarrassed so there we're going to yeah yeah they can shit on it if they want but like how embarrassing They're the ones with their assight in public. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:15:40 End of the day. Oh my God. Yeah. Pants down. Yeah, exactly. I have one. Okay, so hi, gorgeous people. I will start by blowing some smoke up your asses, of course, but I genuinely love your podcast.
Starting point is 00:15:52 It's helped me so much. After struggling with disordered eating, weight gain, shitty comments from family and friends on my body for my whole life, this podcast helps me accept myself for who I am in the moment. So thank you. That's lovely. Having said that, I still have some work to do, and I'm looking for a bit of advice, really. I've just been shopping for my wedding dress
Starting point is 00:16:09 and actually purchased one today I put it on and I felt 11 out of 10 in it so of course went away having put the deposit down I felt amazing and so happy however when I got home one of my bridesmaids started posting pictures of me and my dress on the group chat we have with my fellow bridesmaids and my mum and mum in law I looked at these pictures and immediately had a minor breakdown
Starting point is 00:16:28 I hate the way I looked in these pictures all I could see were my problem areas not a term I usually use but you know what I mean and I couldn't see in the pictures what I was seeing and feeling in the shop at all. I wasn't really aware she was taking these photos and to be honest, I would have rather not had photos but instead gone off how I felt in the moment.
Starting point is 00:16:46 I have a history of hating the way I look in pictures so to be honest, I'm a bit miffed at my bridesmaid for being so careless of the photos she sent. There were over 30 pictures from all terrible angles, even though I know it comes from a place of love and excitement. I now don't know what to do. Do I phone up and say, actually, I don't want the dress? Do I go and try it on again?
Starting point is 00:17:04 Do I delete the pictures and go by the feeling I felt in the shop? I'm mad at myself for letting my weight cloud my judgment of how I look and feel in my wedding dress. But I just feel so much pressure to look amazing on the day and now don't feel like I do after seeing these photos. I'm now finding myself spiraling into the must lose weight for the wedding rabbit hole, which I was desperately trying to avoid. Sorry for the long-winded email. Thank you for all the work you do. It's never been more important. Oh, bless that.
Starting point is 00:17:31 That is hard. Oh, that's hard. That's so rough, especially around her wedding as well. Actually, I was thinking about this morning because I was watching someone on stories who's getting married next week, I think, or the week after, and she's getting, like, she's had her teeth whitened, she's, like, doing her hair, she's, like, wondering whether not to go for a facial. And I was thinking about, like, there is just so much pressure on this one day to, like, look
Starting point is 00:18:03 and feel your absolute, like, best, whatever that means because who knows what that actually means. So it's super heightened anyway because, you know, if you're just, I don't know, like a random barbecue and someone takes a photo of you and you see it and you don't like it, like the stakes are a lot, you know, are a lot less high than this. So I totally feel for this girl.
Starting point is 00:18:29 I do. I had a similar experience when I first, went to go and try on my dress. My bridesmaids all put photos in the group afterwards and I also zoomed in on bits of my body and I really talked myself out of my dress like I really did and I was messaging them like I can't wear it look and I was zooming in on ridiculous bits being like look at this I can't wear this and what am I going to do about this and I think I've made a terrible mistake even though when I wear it I feel absolutely amazing and I think there's so many things to consider.
Starting point is 00:19:05 First of all, I don't know about you, but when I went for my bridesmaid, with my wedding dress fittings, I was wearing fuck all underwear or like stupid, you know, like I just looked absolutely ridiculous. I hadn't shaved my legs. I hadn't washed my hair. I wasn't wearing proper makeup.
Starting point is 00:19:19 I just felt, you know, whatever. Probably, I'd come from work stuff. It was sweaty. You know, it's summer. You've just done out, like you'll have been hot. You're tired. You know, this is all part of a stressful time. You're going into a studio
Starting point is 00:19:32 with fucking uplighting, downlighting, whatever it's called, spotlights, which cast horrible shadows, make everybody look a bit yellow, you were candid, you didn't realise the photos were being taken, you probably weren't wearing, I don't know, the shoes, or it wasn't tailored, probably, I don't know, you know, but it wasn't how it's going to look on the day because you won't be in a shop for a starter,
Starting point is 00:19:55 you'll be outside, you'll be carrying yourself totally differently on your wedding day, and you've said yourself in the email, that you have a history of hating images with yourself. So with yourself in. So I suspect, and I say this was so much love, that this is much more about the fact that their images rather than what you actually look like in them. Like it sounds like you have a history of always looking for the bad in photos
Starting point is 00:20:23 and jumping to the worst place every time you see a photo of yourself just because that's what your brain has, that's the pattern that your brain is now, in because that's what you've always done. So it's probably incredibly unusual for you to look at a photo of yourself and think, God, I look amazing. And that's not your fault. That's just because that's the way you've always worked as a person. So it was always going to be incredibly unlikely that you would look at this photo and think, God, what a dish. Because that's just not the way your brain works. So you have to remember from the off that you were biased to begin with. You weren't,
Starting point is 00:20:59 you weren't ever going to like the photos, which is why you didn't want photos in the first place, which proves that this is nothing about what's in the photos, and it's more about the photos themselves. So with that in mind, I would delete the fucking things and keep the feeling, because the feeling is what's real.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Your thoughts around the images aren't real. The image isn't even real. It is a singular moment in time. Alan and I say this all the time. You take a photo of the moon, and it looks shit. Have you ever taken, has anybody ever taken a good photo of the moon, particularly on their iPhones? No. Is the moon
Starting point is 00:21:33 objectively the most beautiful thing in the sky? Yes. Like there's just no question, but the photos are always terrible. So your thoughts around the pictures aren't what matters. It's your feelings about the dress that are so important. So if you want to go and try it back on again, go and get your hair blow now or whatever and then go to the, and make yourself feel as great you can and then go and try it on again having burned those photos off your retina and go again and get the feeling back when you feel like you're ready or if you need to but i think that these photos are nothing to do with how you look and nothing to do with the dress and and your bride's made like you say she had really good intentions but because of your history with photos it wasn't
Starting point is 00:22:20 good and yeah yeah so get rid of them yeah Yeah. And I think as well, you know, well, first of all, you felt like an 11 out of 10 in the shop. People were with you. They obviously felt that too. Like that, like you said, that's what's real. Like you weren't, you're not making a mistake. You have eyes. Like you could see yourself in the mirror. Like everyone else could see you. Like it was, the dress was a great choice for you. And it totally depends on what you do. But if you are able to look back at the photos and like rather than like take away your bias. And before. you look at them think, what if I look at these photos and think, oh, I look okay or, oh, this just wasn't a great angle of me, but I am a 3D, like, proper living person, not a 2D static image of myself. Like, that's just a one very small snapshot in time because, and I think, like, I used to just be like, oh my God, get any pictures I don't like away from me, but I don't, I don't necessarily know if that was that helpful for me because I was, because there's always going to be pictures taken of you and your wedding as well. Like there are so many pictures taken of you from all kinds of
Starting point is 00:23:33 angles and you end up seeing them all. And I just think if you can kind of work to chip away at that bias that you do have when you look at photos and if you can sit in that in that like, what if I can just accept this photo of me? What if it's not as bad as I think it is and I can just be okay with it. I think that could be really powerful, but that depends on how strong your feeling. And also, this might not be the right time with your, with the wedding stuff going on. Like, it might not be the right time to do this work. But, like, I think that for me was really pivotal in, in, because I used to be terrified of photos, especially at candid photos. I'd just be terrified. And I'd be like, don't, I don't want to be in them. Like, don't take candid photos of me. Like, I just want to
Starting point is 00:24:13 run away. And then when you can actually just think, like, hang on, just tell me, like, what is so bad about this photo like why do I hate this photo so much like okay yes I have a double chill in this photo but like and what you know like I'm it's literally a snapshot in time and I think if we can like reframe how we see these photos we can end up like just taking the pressure off off our shoulders and just being like even more comfortable with our body and like you said you like you've come a long way but you still have work to do and that's so fine and so like so normal and yeah i just it's annoying that we keep having to do work with this and we keep having to like come across these obstacles but i think the actually they're like learning moments even
Starting point is 00:25:00 though they feel really shit it's just like a way to it's a way to get even further in your journey to feeling better in your own skin i think if i sent you the photos of myself in my wedding dress that i didn't like you would look at them and go but you look fucking great and i think if you sent those photos to us of you in that wedding dress, we would go, you look fucking great. Well, and I saw those photos that you had and you looked fucking great.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Like, objectively, you looked great. Absolutely, but you can't see that when it's yourself sometimes. And that's just a fact of being a woman or a human in this day and age. Like, you are hardwired to look for the bad. And I think, particularly with the wedding, you're supposed to have the most perfect
Starting point is 00:25:40 perfect fucking dress of all time and look the most perfect that any human being has ever looked in any dress. So you feel like you're failing in some capacity if you don't look 100% totally fucking drop dead perfect in every single image. But human life isn't absolutely perfect all the time. And you can't laugh if you're breathing in. And I think that's like one of my favorite things to remember.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Like if you're sucking in, which I spent a good 10 years doing, you can't, you can't laugh. You never get to really be yourself. And it's like I think human beings, I think we're. in particular are their most beautiful when they are their most relaxed and when they are their happiest. And I think on your wedding day, happiness will radiate out of you because you're marrying the person that you love the most. And that's what you will see in the images. And look, I'm saying this, having been very honest about the fact that when I was trolled on that fucking forum about people hating my wedding dress, it did make me really, really upset. So I do
Starting point is 00:26:42 understand this. I really do. But I've done some work around it. And I feel so strongly now that this is the best day of your life and really everything else is secondary and you won't see the details because you won't be looking for the bad bits because you know in your normal life yeah you look for the bad bits because that's what diet culture has filled our time in our head with like you know look for the bad bits look for the bits to fix whatever whatever but your wedding day is so not about that your wedding day everything's perfect and everything's ready for the rest of your life so you aren't going to look out for the bad bits because they're just not, they shouldn't be a part of the day.
Starting point is 00:27:18 They're not welcome. They're not invited. So, like, no kids and no bad energy, okay? Wedding rules. Love that. And please, please, please, please keep the dress. Please keep the dress. You're 11 out of 10.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Keep that dress. You're going to look absolutely fucking stunning. Yes. Honestly, please send us a photo. I promise you, you're beautiful and you look amazing and you felt like an 11 out of 10 and that's what matters. Okay. And is it just me, listening to Alex asking about cooking and is it just me that eats like 90% of her veg roasted, like everything, even cauliflower, broccoli, Brussels, cabbage, you name it and I probably put it in the oven.
Starting point is 00:27:58 I think boiled veg is awful and tasteless and actually more effort than roasting. Roasting, stick it in a roasting tray thing, spritz with oil, add herbs and spices and put in for 20 minutes for most veg, about 40 minutes for thicker ones like carrots, parsnips, ETC. M has sold me in an air fryer. I do think I want one, but my only two sticking points. are number one how much can fit in like I eat a lot of veg and two the thought of having anything else permanently on my benches gives me the horrors oh my god me too I've not got tons of bench space and there's not a hope in hell I'm taking it in and out of the cupboard for every use who has that time in their life me I have that time
Starting point is 00:28:33 mine's in the cupboard I get it in I put it out do you yeah Alex yeah neat freak boy owl will not let me leave it out because he says it's big and unsightly so he puts and also the kitchen is not really big enough for an air fry because they are chunky. But baby, this is worth it. I am a neat freak and also lazy so I don't see that. I don't see a compromise there. Because I can't have it out but I can't have it in. I am optimistic and pragmatic. So
Starting point is 00:29:00 I will get it input it out, get it in, put it out. No drama. Absolutely no biggie. Worth it. Worth it. Is it? Oh, fuck yeah. How many times I'm going to tell you? It's worth it. You bought a drum kit because of like one night scrolling and I'm really having to sell the air fry to you this much. It's sad. I get this girl, I get overboiled veg, absolutely foul and heinous.
Starting point is 00:29:24 And, but I'm not an over, but it depends on the veg, sometimes a little blanche, like a pea, like, overblot, like, just blanche pee. Oh, yeah, peas. Yeah, peas boiled, but I, I'm with her, like, sprouts, broccoli, cabbage, all better in the oven. All better in the air fryer, all better in the air fryer. All better in the air fryer. All better in the air fryer. Absolutely fine by me. Yeah, I approve this message.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Spinach, that's got to be blanched. Yes. Spinach peas, beans. Wait, spinach I just put... A spinach I just put in a pan, right? You don't put water in it? I just do it in water. Do you?
Starting point is 00:30:00 Yeah. Oh, shit, right? Yeah. I just put it in water and then you just get a bit of kitchen towel afterwards and then just put the spinach on the kitchen towel because otherwise it holds onto a lot of water and that leaks onto your other food, and not about that life.
Starting point is 00:30:13 And then, yeah, and then you just throw the kitchen towel away. And, yeah, kitchen towel or kitchen roll, whatever you want. We just wash your kitchen, if it was a kitchen. But if you do it in a pan without water, then you don't need the water. And then you don't need to.
Starting point is 00:30:24 But doesn't it burn a bit? Do you do it with, is it oily? No, because it's got so much water in it. No, you don't need oil. Because it's got so much water, doesn't it? So as soon as you put it in. I mean, you're giving me a cooking hack. I know.
Starting point is 00:30:34 What's happening? Oh my God, okay. Okay, yeah. Yeah. Okay, fine. I'll try it. I'll try it Yeah I get it
Starting point is 00:30:45 But honestly Why do you guys Keep giving me The opportunity to sell you the air fryer If no one is going to take me up on it Yes It's bulky If by the end of the year
Starting point is 00:30:53 You think I'm not going to use it By the end of the year Do you know how long I've had it for No no I was going to say If by the end of the year You do not have An endorsement Or sponsorship
Starting point is 00:31:01 With an air frying company I will be furious On your behalf I'm fucking furious You should be on commission I should be on QVC selling these things. You should be on QVC.
Starting point is 00:31:15 I can't believe that nobody's contacted me by this point. I can't believe it. You know I did a question box on my Instagram the other day and hundreds of them were asking for my air fryer recipes. Okay. You plus air fryer brand
Starting point is 00:31:32 would be the ultimate collaboration. We need to manifest this and make this happen. No, we didn't to manifest it. We need to orchestrate it. Like, right, Mohammed needs to go to the mountain saying is the mountain is not coming to Mohammed so I I'm going to do some outreach you know the sad thing is I thought I think we have done some outreach I think Jenny might have done I think and no one bit yeah because I'm doing it all for free at the moment
Starting point is 00:31:58 okay so stop doing it but then they won't know how much I love the air friar and then they won't come at all I will tell them I will give a written testimonial you have a they offered you an air friar they did I couldn't believe leave it. They offered you one and I was like hello and I think you'd put on Instagram like oh M's really trying to sell me an air fryer and then they were like hey I'll do you want an air fry
Starting point is 00:32:24 and I'm like oh no thanks to the one that introduced her then Ninja obviously I will take back all of this if they do come and sponsor me but as of right now I am I am a woman scorned it's probably because they thought well she's already got one so we don't need to ask her if she wants one you know it's nice to be asked
Starting point is 00:32:41 it's nice to be asked maybe you needed a new model yeah i don't i love my model but i would just like them to just say thanks god i'm such a cancerian jesus christ cancers we we do lovely things for people but we expect like i'll give you my left arm but i'll never let you forget it like i'll do a nice thing but i never want anybody to forget that i've done the nice thing look at me now being like just tell me that you appreciate it even though i'm choosing to do this i i i think no no no no i think they owe you a huge thank you i if you want to send them an email out i
Starting point is 00:33:17 i'm going to send them an email and just say just so you know and i'm going to send them this episode and there we go just so you know send them literally any episode we've ever done because i will have mentioned the air friar or direct them to any of my insolian stories on any given day because i will have cooked something in my air friar because my air friar is the best thing in the world there we go there we go yeah quote Quote. Quote for their website right there. Only if they pay us.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Only if they pay. Yeah. Okay, guys. Well, thank you so much for listening. We'll be back on Monday. Monday. Go say Monday as deeply as you can. Monday.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Okay, bye guys. Oh, you loser. Should I delete that is part of the ACAS creator network.

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